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Cringe-Worthy Regret? Yep, Been There, Done That…How Shame Works To Shape Future Behavior

I have been reading this site a fair bit over the last few years, and always find it both entertaining and instructive. Recently though, when I’ve made the odd comment giving my opinion on the subject at hand, I’ve found myself thinking, “Would I have had the same reaction to this post five, ten, fifteen years ago?”  It’s made me realize that sometimes I’m judging people from the privileged position of experience, and at least some knowledge of etiquette (most of which I’ve gleaned from this very site).

I thought it might be interesting to see if anyone else has committed crimes against etiquette and graceful behaviour in the past, which cause them now to look back and cringe at their former selves. Here’s my own story, which concerns my wedding.

My husband and I married about twelve years ago, in our mid-twenties. I’ll leave out most of the details so as not to get mired in unnecessary description. Briefly, it was a traditional church ceremony followed by a catered buffet reception at the same venue. We invited about sixty people, about fifty of who attended, a mix of family and good friends. Overall it was a lovely day, and we still occasionally get compliments on the relaxed and happy atmosphere, the ceremony (particularly the music), the venue, and my dress (£180 from Monsoon, for those in the UK. If only I could still fit into it!) The only “mishaps” were my BIL spilling water all down the front of his suit while moving a pedestal of flowers, and the fact that I preferred my bridesmaid’s bouquet to my own! Oh well.

And so straight to my faux pas, and I’m afraid it’s a major one. We included a “registry” with the invitations. Worse, that registry was what I can only describe in hindsight as a cash-grab. (I assure you I am wincing as I type this). I don’t have an excuse for this. It was an action borne of ignorance, and, if I force myself to be brutally honest, a bit of over-excited greed.

My husband and I had been saving up for our honeymoon throughout our engagement (sixteen months), and had booked it all about two months before our wedding. At the time, I thought one was supposed to receive gifts at one’s wedding; I thought that was just the way it was. And what we wanted was some extra spending money for our honeymoon (yep, still cringing hard over here). Now in the spirit of full disclosure, I was going to include the actual text from the dreaded “Gift List” in this submission, but I’ve just looked through my wedding memory box, and it isn’t there. I have copies of the save the date card, the invitation itself, the order of service, and the readings we had (the officiant read Song of Solomon 8. 6-7, my dad read a passage from The Fellowship of the Ring, and my best friend [my bridesmaid] read Robert Frost’s The Road Not Taken). But I no longer have a copy of that dreaded gift list. I can’t say I’m surprised, as I had a vague memory of, at some point in the intervening years, having got rid of the wretched thing, and so I must have done.

So as accurately as I can reproduce from memory, it said something like, “We do not expect gifts, but if you would like to make a contribution to our honeymoon, here are some ideas.” There then followed a list ranging from “posh dinner out” at   £80/$150, through things like museum admission and cinema tickets, down to “public transit tickets for the day” at £5/$9. (We’re British, our honeymoon was to the U.S., and at the time the exchange rate heavily favoured the pound over the dollar). It was printed in the same font and on the same type of paper as the invitation, on a separate piece of paper, but enclosed in the same envelope.

What were we thinking?! I’ll be as honest as I can. While we did believe at the time that it was usual protocol to provide gift lists, we were also pleasurably excited at the thought of receiving cash gifts that we would benefit from. And as I said before, I can really only put that down to greed on our part. Looking back on it, two things in particular about our gift list really stand out to me, aside from the incredible idiocy of including it in the first place: 1) The fact that we included “prices” in both pounds and dollars, which adds a rather special tackiness to the whole thing. 2) The wording that introduced the dreadful document. “We do not expect gifts, but if you would like to… ”  As I said, I’m reproducing the wording from memory only, but I’m pretty sure it’s fairly accurate. And looking at it with wiser eyes, my own wording now says quite plainly to me: “We know we’re asking for something we have no right to, but we want it, so we’re going to ask for it anyway”. In other words: a greedy, thoughtless guilt-trip.

As a side note, it surprises me looking back that neither my mum or dad vetoed this. They are both the type of person to tactfully speak up if they think I’m about to make a mistake, they are both well-mannered and considerate people, and my mum in particular cares what others think, and has a horror of doing anything rude or gauche for no reason. The fact that they blithely posted these gift-grabbing enclosures along with the invitations can only suggest to me that they themselves had no idea there was anything wrong with it. I want to be clear that I’m not making excuses for my actions. Do I wish that, twelve years ago, someone had stepped in and told us how rude and tacky my husband and I were being? Of course. But I also know that we’re reasonably intelligent people who, had we stopped to think properly about what we were doing, would’ve known that we were doing the wrong thing.

Which is the main reason I’m so grateful for this site. The most important lesson I’ve gotten from it over the years is to always ask the question, often mentioned by Admin, “Who does this serve?” In some cases, of course, I think it’s okay for the answer to be “me”, but that’s in situations that involve my ongoing quest to develop a polite spine. In the tale I just told, the answer should have alerted me to the mistake we were making, had I but known to ask the question in the first place. In the long run, I hope that asking myself that question has taught me to be a bit more gracious and a lot less selfish.

So this submission is in part a thank you: to the Admin for keeping up this site and for her often wise advice, and to my fellow readers and commenters for their experience and perspectives. I can honestly say that EHell has played a big part in teaching me, over the years, to become a more well-rounded and thoughtful person.

So does anyone else have any past etiquette crimes to confess? Awkward, tacky, or just plain heinous things they did in the past but would know better than to do now? I for one would probably feel better for hearing them! And if Admin or commenters are so inclined, I’ll gladly take my lumps for the gift list debacle. While it’s a lesson I’ve taken to heart, fresh eyes on the situation couldn’t hurt. There may be perspectives I hadn’t considered.

While I am not averse to trying to shake some sense and courtesy into the mindless, clueless and outright greedy/boorish people of the world, it’s not an Ehell “thang” to beat up on the sincerely penitent.  We celebrate those who develop beyond being a typically selfish person and who embrace the past mistakes in order to become better people in the future.

Do I have cringe-worthy regret?  You better believe it!  Mine nearly always involves some foot-in-mouth faux pas since I am a gregarious person who wears her emotions on her sleeve and sometimes the governor in my brain hasn’t been well connected to my mouth.    I flinch thinking of some of the mindless things that have popped out of my mouth but I use that regret, and, yes, shame, to my advantage by making it a learning moment.   How would I have done or said that differently?   How can I develop more discretion?   I’m told by people I’ve apologized to that I am overthinking my offense since they claim to not be as offended as I assumed they could be but I’d rather err on the side of being aware of how I have the ability to be offensive as opposed to being oblivious.

Shame is a good thing, in my opinion, because some things are shameful and thus deserving of regret and cringing.  Shame and regret are the deterrent to future mistakes.

Don’t Mess With Curmudgeonly Old Dudes Playing Golf

This video is at least five years old but since I just discovered it, we’ll discuss the consequences of being a jerk after viewing…

The two teens “driving” the RC car appear to want to enjoy the benefits of a prank without suffering any of the potential consequences pranks have been known to elicit from their victims. So, they interfere on private property and tamper with a private game between two old dudes, one of whom doesn’t appreciate the humor of the prank so he clubs the RC car to death. ANNND the entitlement rises to the surface…how dare that old geezer destroy his RC car!

I note that the teen holding the camera lies not once but twice about the camera being off.

Pushy Teen

My husband and I had a run in with a teen on Saturday that had us scratching our heads for the rest of the weekend. My family and I decided to go to the library this past Saturday. A kind older woman held the door for us and we went in with my 4 year old holding my hand, and my husband holding our 2 year old’s hand. The lady followed right behind us as there were no other patrons. We approached the double inner door and my 4 year old pushed the door open. As I started to come through a teen tried to power walk out. He dodged around my 4 year old and was seeking to push past me. I was very shocked because all five of us, my 4 year old, myself, my 2 year old, my husband, and the older woman, were only about a pace apart. Not nearly enough room to try to get between us all to leave. The bigger shocker was that the exit side was completely empty, no body was going in or out the exit side of the double doors. Since there was no way this teen was going to get past us without having to bodily push someone out of the way, I put my hand on the door and told the teen that we were all coming in, that the door next to us was empty, and that he should use that door. He muttered something I could not hear and moved to the other door, and left. The woman behind us busted out giggling. My husband and I are still shocked by his behavior. 0425-16

My Gratitude Would Be Complete If You Would Only Buy This Wine

My husband works at a small nonprofit. One of his colleagues recently lost his mother to an illness she’d been battling for about a year. Of course he was devastated, and all of his co-workers, including the organization’s director, gave him the time and space he needed to deal both with practical matters and the early stages of grief.

Yesterday, at the weekly staff meeting, he announced that as a thank-you to all of his co-workers, who had been so supportive, he had organized a wine-tasting for everybody at 4:30 that afternoon in the conference room. This was news to everyone, including the director. The short notice was just sort of accepted by everyone since he was just trying to be nice, and he’s still grieving.

My husband had a lot of work to do, so he privately told the co-worker that he probably wouldn’t be able to come, but appreciated the gesture and hoped everyone would have fun. (He’s not much of a drinker anyway). At 5:00, he’s ready to leave and pops his head in the conference room where the wine-tasting is – to find that it’s not so much a wine-tasting as a wine-selling party. You know, like Tupperware parties? Co-worker had invited his friend with this wine-selling business to come and shill his wares as a “thank you” to his co-workers.

My husband was shocked but didn’t say anything, just a cheery “see you tomorrow!” and then came home and told me about it. I don’t think any of the co-workers are going to say anything about the unbelievable rudeness, but I’m pretty sure the director is planning to have some words with him about having a wine-selling party in a non-profit’s conference room on work time.   0226-16

Playing Footsy With The Armrest

I am submitting this story both to rant and for advice should something similar happen again (as I expect it will).

I regularly travel between the UK and the Netherlands. Approximately once a month I take a 1 hour flight between these 2 countries. I always take these flights alone. Due to a change in personal circumstances I have recently begun using a different UK airport to make these trips. As you may know, the Netherlands has liberal drug laws which makes it a popular destination for stag and hen parties, as well as other young people keen to experience the Dutch nightlife. In addition to these tourists there are also usually many young families and business travelers on the flights.

The flights from my new UK airport seem to have a much higher percentage of stag and hen parties and a lower percentage of business and family travelers. For this reason, the flights can be more rowdy. I usually take a book and tolerate this issue as it is only a short flight. However, on my most recent flight this strategy was insufficient.

A group of young women sitting behind me (I estimate approximately 18-20 years old) were speaking loudly and using offensive language from the beginning of the flight. As there were no children nearby no one seemed to mind, and I ignored it. As food was served I noticed that the woman sitting behind me had removed her shoes and socks and placed her feet between the chairs and onto the arm rest beside me. Her feet were not clean and I felt unable to eat with them almost touching my arm. I think the woman sitting next to me (also sharing the foot-covered arm rest) had noticed but chosen not to react.

I turned around, smiled at the woman behind me then glanced at her feet. I assumed this would be enough to remind her that her actions were inappropriate. I was shocked when she smirked back at me and her friend said, “Have you got a problem?”  I replied, “Please can you move your feet, it is quite unhygienic”.  She moved them off my arm rest. I then heard her and her friends mocking me. It seems ridiculous, but I felt like I was back in High School! I hate confrontation, and this incident bothered me for the rest of the day.

Can any readers offer advice on how I can better handle a situation like this in the future? Unfortunately, unless I pay for an upgrade I expect to encounter similar problems again. Whilst ideally I would hope the cabin crew would ensure a pleasant environment (and have contacted corporate to suggest this) I do not expect much. 0928-15

What you said was fine.  What you need is your confidence built so that you don’t feel guilty for standing up for yourself and so that you are not emotionally bothered by the antics of petty people.   View it this way…you won.   You had control of the situation.  Footsy chick may have grumbled and spewed hateful invectives in your direction but she did what you asked nonetheless.  Kind of reminds me of how my dog mutters under her breath when she has to do something I want her to do.   What Footsy Chick did in response to your request was typical of insecure people who do not yet have the maturity and self confidence to behave civilly to a civil request.