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Wedding Wednesday – Gift Registries Scam

I’m going to cry – I thought my niece was above this.

I was just looking at her wedding registry – they didn’t register for a ton of stuff or anything really ridiculous (well they did register for a set of sporks, a Travelocity gnome and a book on how to survive in the woods, which I thought were all awesome). But there were several gifts listed that I clicked on, but they didn’t take me to a site like Amazon where I could purchase them. I did buy the sporks and book and thought it was odd that it tried to make me send the gifts directly to their house instead of to me so I could wrap them up and they could be, oh you know, actual gifts.

But looking again today, I realized that the gifts that don’t actually link to anything are actually listed as “cash registry”. Yep – maybe they will eventually buy the object shown in the picture and maybe they won’t. The moola can be used for anything. But it gets better because after a little research I found this on the registry website –

* Shop our catalog of top retailers and brands
* Add any item from any store
* Import your existing retailer registries
* Convert any gift into cash
* Create a honeymoon and cash fund

Did you catch that? Anything you order off of this registry can be converted to cash! They weren’t trying to force me to send gifts directly to the wedding couple, they were giving them an easy option to do a money grab without actually calling it a money grab. Register for anything you want! Register for the Statue of Liberty! It won’t fit in your back yard but that’s ok, just take the cash value instead. 0519-17

I think it was inevitable that gift registries would morph into clever schemes to extract cash instead of actual gifts.   The gift giver is sending money which *might* be used to buy the item on the registry you think you are giving the newlyweds or the recipient may well use the cash to buy something else.

We just received a wedding invitation, along with allegedly 500 other guests, on which there is explicit registry information including the desire for Wal-Mart gift cards.   Send money.  Nope.

Wedding Wednesday – Having To Beg To Send Wedding Gift

A short bit of background. In 2000 my spouse’s grandmother passed away. At that time my spouse, along with 2 siblings, were sent a box or two each from her estate. Things their father, who had been caring for grandmother, thought should be passed down. There was no arguing, the boxes arrived and that was what you received from the estate. My spouse and I have no children. So we always intended to pass these items down to the siblings’ children, grandmother’s great-grandchildren.

Fast forward to 2017. The first of the great-grandchildren is about to be married. One of the items my spouse inherited was a set of silver with first letter of the family last name engraved on each. There are 2 boys among the great-grandkids and we thought we would send this as a wedding gift to the first of them to marry since they were most likely to be carrying on the family name.

We were not invited to the wedding. No hard feelings, spouse is not close with the sibling whose son is getting married and we live across the country from each other. I found out about the wedding on Facebook. When I found out about the wedding I contacted my SIL via Facebook messenger to congratulate her family and inform her about the silver. I began by asking if she wanted to ask her son if he would be interested in it, because it not, maybe it would be better suited to her other son.

She wrote back immediately saying she didn’t need to ask, she was sure her son would love to receive it as a wedding gift. I immediately replied, “Great! where can I send it?”. No response. At this time it’s about 6 weeks before wedding. I wait a few weeks. It is now less than 1 month before wedding. I write again and say, “Hey, if son is not interested in the silver no hard feelings, but if you could let me know I’d appreciate it”. Again, I get an immediate reply saying yes son is interested and she’ll have to “check” where to send it.

Huh? Check? It’s less than a month before the wedding and the mother of the groom doesn’t know where to send a gift? I know! How about her house? Or my MIL who I assume is going to the wedding since they live close by? Or the son’s new apartment? In the time it took her to type “let me check where to send it” she could have typed her address. True or not, the way this made me feel was that she didn’t want us to have her address. I’m 3000 miles away, it’s not like I’m going to drop by for a visit. I was angry enough to consider not sending the silver at all.

In the end, days later she sent me her address. I wrote her back immediately thanking her and letting her know I would be sending it. I also let her know that she hurt my feelings and that she needn’t worry we won’t be dropping by. (okay I didn’t write the part about dropping by, but I wanted to!) 0226-18

Lesson learned: never beg anyone to please accept your generosity.   Once an offer is made and that offer “ball” is in the recipient’s court,  don’t go running into their side of the court pointing to the ball insisting they return it back to you.

Make the offer of the gift and if the intended recipient cannot be bothered to inform you of an address to send it, wait an appropriate amount of time in silence and then set the gift aside for someone else, sell it, donate it, whatever.   If ever asked what happened to the offered gift, reply, “I’m so sorry.  When I did not hear from you for six months, I assumed you did not prefer to receive it so I gave it to XXXX.”

Wedding Wednesday – And We Joked About ATMS At Weddings….

At a wedding last week:

DJ – “Ladies and Gentlemen, the happy couple are out on the dance floor because it’s time for the dollar dance! Dig deep in your pockets and make this a great night for them. Don’t worry if you don’t have cash, both the bride and groom have iPhones equipped with the Square so they can run your credit card. No excuses, folks!”

Us – “Oh, look at the time, we’ve got to get going…” 0419-18

It used to be a joke on EHell that someday ATMS would start to make appearances at wedding venues so that guests had ready access to cash for dollar dances, buying drinks, etc.

Wedding Wednesday – “I Sent My Regrets” Many Times

About a year and a half ago I casually dated a woman named Tiffany (not her real name). We met on a dating site and then realized she is friends with some of my friends from High School. We’re both women in our mid 30’s. We met for coffee, dinner, and a few movies. Nothing serious.

After seeing each other for about 3 months, Tiffany broke up with me via a text message stating “I don’t think this is working out. But I hope we’ll still be friends.”  I replied “Ok.” And that was that.  There was no weeping or gnashing of teeth.  No unfriending on social media.

About a year passes and the next time I hear from Tiffany is an invitation to her engagement party. She and Steve (not his real name) are having a potluck BBQ to celebrate their engagement. Everyone is invited to bring their own meat for the grill plus either a side or dessert. The hosts will provide sodas and water. The invitation also included links to gift registries at 3 different store plus the groom-to-be’s Paypal link in case people want to contribute to the honeymoon fund.  The invitation requests RSVP, so I send my regrets and forget about it. Until Tiffany posts a bunch of pictures on Facebook and complains about how few people brought presents to her engagement party.

Turns out, this was the SECOND engagement party. The groom-to-be’s father had thrown an engagement party for the happy couple a month previous at a nice restaurant. But since the father had only asked Tiffany for names and addresses, the Dad’s invites to that party didn’t include the gift registry info. So the whole reason Tiffany and Steve threw this second engagement party, was to give people an opportunity to give them stuff.

Over the course of the next 6 weeks, I get invited to THREE different showers for Tiffany. Each invite includes the registry info and Steve’s Paypal info. One shower was being thrown by her sister, another by her maid of honor, and the third by one of her coworkers. I sent my regrets for all three.

Then I received a Facebook invite to a “virtual” shower. The invitation said something along the lines of, “We were so sorry you couldn’t make the wedding shower for Tiffany. So we’ve decided to host a virtual shower. Tiffany will go live during the party to open gifts. Just make sure to send a gift by X date so she can thank you live in the video!” I also declined that invitation.

About a week later I received a Facebook message from the maid of honor. It was a group message sent to about 25 women.

“Hi Ladies! I know we’re all very excited about Tiffany and Steve’s wedding this fall. All of us bridesmaids are working hard to make this the best experience possible for Tiffany. A couple of the ladies had to drop out of the wedding party so we’re looking for 3 more bridesmaids.

If you’re interested, here is the link to the dress: (link to $350 purple dress)

You’ll need to get 1.5 inch heels dyed to match. Here’s the online retailer I used: (link for $120 dyed to match shoes)

We are really excited about giving Tiffany a much needed girls weekend before the wedding.
We’re going to FLY TO VEGAS!!! It will be spa all day, party all night for an unforgettable girl’s weekend.

Here are the details on the hotel and spa:

(link to hotel offering $210 a night rate)

(link to spa with typical spa package pricing)

On Friday Night we’ll have a nice dinner and then throw a party in Tiffany’s room. This is the time for your “nice” family friendly gift because Tiffany’s mom, grandma, and sister will be there.

Saturday morning and afternoon will be all about pampering at the spa. You can pre-buy a spa package for Tiffany at the link above.

On Saturday night we’ll be hitting the Male Revue! Bring your camera and your singles!  No family this night. So Saturday is the night to give your “naughty” gift!

We will all be chipping in to cover Tiffany’s hotel, spa, and drinks so she can just let loose and have fun being single for the short time she has left!

PM me if you want to step up and be a bridesmaid with us!”

To be clear: That means I, an ex-girlfriend who dated the bride to be briefly over a year ago, was invited to “step up” and be a bridesmaid.  I exited the conversation without ever replying.

About a month later I received an invitation to Tiffany’s Bachelorette party at a local night club.  It included links to the gift registries, Steve’s Paypal info, and instructions to bring both a “naughty” and a “nice” gift for the bride to be.  I sent my regrets.

Then I received an invitation to the wedding and to the “after party”.  From the invitation it was clear there would be the wedding.  Then the A list would all have a reception.
And then the rest of us, who were not worth feeding at the reception, were invited to join them at a local bar for the “after party” 6 hours after the wedding.  I sent my regrets.

But this whole thing made me wonder, just how many gifts are friends and family expected to give for a single wedding these days?

  • 2 Engagement parties
  • 3 in person showers
  • 1 “virtual” shower
  • 1 Out of Town weekend with 2 gifts requested
  • 1 In Town Bachelorette Party with 2 gifts requested
  • 1 Wedding

If someone attended all these events, that’s 11 gifts.  If someone attended just one of each type (1 engagement party, 1 shower, 1 bachelorette event, and the wedding) that’s still 5 gifts since the bachelorette events asked for 2 gifts: one naughty, one nice.

One of my friends from high school attended the second engagement party, 2 of the wedding showers, the local bachelorette party, the wedding and the after party (apparently going to 4 pre wedding events didn’t get her bumped to the A list. So no reception invite for her either.)  She bought Tiffany 6 gifts. One each for the engagement party and showers, two for the bachelorette party, and one for the wedding.  She received a single, generic, printed thank you card that said:

“Thank you for joining us on our special day.
Sincerely,
Mr. & Ms. Steve’s Last Name”

Even the names were printed on the card after “Sincerely”. The card was not actually signed.  The only place my friend’s name appeared was on the outside of envelope. No acknowledgement of any of the gifts given.  Nothing.

Meanwhile Tiffany is all over Facebook talking about how broke she and Steve are due to the wedding. How exhausting the entire process was. And, the kicker, how cheap people are.

“So many people came to events and didn’t even bring a gift! OMG! How rude!”
“We basically had to fund the whole Honeymoon ourselves. Almost no one contributed to the Honeymoon Fund!”
“People don’t understand how expensive weddings are. It is not ok to show up and then only give us a couple towels. It’s not 1954, people!”
“I was looking over our registry and all the things people didn’t buy. It made me sad. Our home would look so beautiful if people had bought us the stuff on our registry rather than just re-gifting us useless things like blenders and fondue sets. You’d think family would know better.”

I wasn’t all that sad when Tiffany broke up with me in the first place.  Now I feel like I dodged a bullet.

Tiffany and Steve are in the process of looking for a house to buy.  I am anxiously anticipating at least a half dozen different house warming party invitations.  1108-17

In all my years with Ehell, I don’t think I’ve ever read of an advertising campaign to recruit more bridesmaids.   Warning flag!

Wedding Wednesday – Raffle Tickets, Anyone?

My BIL, John, is getting married to his fiancee Amy in two weeks. The festivities leading up to this wedding have been cringe-worthy to say the least. They include:

– Wedding invitations requesting an 8/27 RSVP response for a 10/10 wedding. We discovered after the fact that the John and Amy have an “A list” and a “B list.” I assume we’re supposed to be happy that we’re at least considered A list and didn’t need to wait for members of the A list to decline John and Amy’s kind invitation to receive one of our own.

– Wedding invitations that included the verbiage “We are registered at X and Y, if you wish to bring a gift.” This verbiage was not included in an insert or on a wedding website. This verbiage was centered in the middle of the invitation when one opened it. It was literally the first thing one saw – even before the wedding location.

– Wedding registries at X and Y included potato chips; Excedrin; a Batman piggy bank; and several kinds of candy.

On to the shower…

I offered to throw Amy a small bridal shower in my home for John’s side of the family. At first, my offer was accepted. It was then declined with the request that I assist Amy’s sister Stephanie with the shower Stephanie was already planning for Amy’s side of the family. When I discovered the guest list for Stephanie’s shower had 120+ people on it, I declined but reiterated my offer to throw a smaller shower for just John’s side of the family in my home. My offer was accepted the second time, and we had a lovely bridal shower with 20 guests, no games and plenty of food for all.

This past Saturday, I attended the shower Stephanie threw in Amy’s honor. Of the 120+ invitations that went out, approximately 40 guests accepted. We arrived and everyone was provided lunch and cake. We then sat for approximately 40 minutes waiting for the hostesses to clean up lunch and cake before Amy was allowed to open gifts. During this 40 minute wait, one of the bridesmaids walked the room with a bucket and raffle tickets. I wish this bridesmaid was selling raffle tickets for a child’s school fundraiser. Instead, this bridesmaid was informing guests that they had elected not to play games for prizes at the shower. Instead, guests were invited to PURCHASE raffle tickets for a prize drawing. Tickets were $2 ea or 3 for $5. All funds raised from ticket sales would go to Amy to offset wedding costs. When asked, I politely demurred by stating I had no cash on me. I did hear another guest state, “Oh. If Amy needs money, I can give her money but I have no interest in raffle tickets.” That guest literally became my new hero.

After we left the shower, my MIL thanked me for throwing Amy a shower for John’s side of the family as she “would never have lived it down with FIL’s sisters had they attended a shower where raffle tickets were sold.”

I almost can’t wait to see what kind of shenanigans occur at the actual wedding!  0930-15