When in Rome…..

by admin on July 11, 2012

This story is a direct reaction to an earlier post making the argument that people need to respect local customs when traveling abroad. While I agree that this is indeed good advice, I can’t help but wonder at how we as foreigners should go about differentiating between what constitutes local custom and what is simply rudeness on behalf of the locals.

For the past year or so, I have been living as an expatriate in a foreign country working for a French company. Every day I take the metro on my way to work and every day I go through the same experience: I wait patiently on the platform and when the train arrives I make a choice: if I’m taking the metro for more than one stop, I will enter first and proceed down the aisle so that other people get a chance to get on as well; if however I only ride it for one stop, I’ll let everyone else go in first and be among the last people to enter the car.This entails the risk of not being able to get in at all if there are too many people waiting but I do it anyway because I feel that it is normal to consider others’ well-being when using public transportation.

The local population has a very different behavioral pattern: they go in first and stop near the door so that they are also first to get out. This can be extremely irritating as they block everyone else from getting on, often making it that people are left waiting for the next metro when there is plenty of room left. Every day I am tempted to say something and finally decide against it.

I realize that it’s not my place to teach people how to behave properly in public, especially since I am a guest in their country, but I can’t be the only person to think that this type of behavior goes far beyond simple local custom. This is sheer rudeness and lack of consideration of others and should not be tolerated only because everybody else in this country does it.

I would like to ask for the advice of your readers. Do I say something or do I simply shut up and put up for the time I have left living here (which is a pretty long time by the way)?

Thank you. 0627-12

There are some things in life you will never be able to change.  All you can do is change yourself.

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Lychii July 11, 2012 at 6:10 am

I just had a very similar discussion with my mother recently.

Last week my mom and I went shopping, it wasn’t very crowded and still, during one hour we encountered at least 4 occurrences of people standing right in the middle of the sidewalk/aisle/doorway, talking to their friends and blocking the passage completely.

This kind of thing makes my mom furious! Her way of dealing is to give dirty looks and loudly mutter about uncultured idiots. That’s the appropriate response in the country where mom grew up, shaming the etiquette offender into acceptable behavior. It’s not at all appropriate where we live now.

I’ve tried to explain that what you should do is approach and say “Excuse Me!” in a non hostile tone, and the people will move aside. But even after 20 years living here, my mom can’t quite adjust.


jena rogers July 11, 2012 at 6:55 am

While I agree with OP regarding the improper behavior of getting on first, only to keep others from getting on because your trip is relatively short, I don’t see a way of ascertaining the distance one plans to travel before they actually arrive at their destination, and so any admonishment would be after the fact; add to that the impracticality of suggesting alternative, more reasonable behaviors to what appears to be an entire commuter population, and you are left with an impossible task. If OP is using this blog to gripe and perhaps spread the word about unacceptable behavior, the point is well taken. Short of getting the word out somehow via the local media, I see no way of correcting such en masse behavior. Which is too bad, as such acts can make a whole society look selfish, and leave visitors with a bad impression.


Stephanie July 11, 2012 at 6:55 am

This isn’t a local custom, it’s rudeness plain and simple. I deal with the same behaviour on the Toronto subway every morning and Canadians have a pretty good reputation for our manners. I go with a loud “Excuse me!” and power through the crowd of people. Once one person moves down the train, others usually follow.


Chris July 11, 2012 at 7:01 am

What you have described isn’t ‘local custom’, it’s general discourtesy. At the very least you should speak up and ask if they can make way for the rest of the commuters trying to get on the train.


Jane July 11, 2012 at 7:07 am

That behavior has nothing to do with France or their metro system. I live in the Washington, DC area, and I see the same behavior on our metro here. There’s really not much we can do.


sillyme July 11, 2012 at 7:10 am

There’s a third option: write the metro public relations or community relations and explain the situation. Our mass transportation operator recently launched a campaign on buses, commuter rails and subways about courtesy and respect: don’t talk loudly on the phone, respect seats marked for senior citizens and the physically challenged, and let riders off before getting on the bus/subway/train.

Several years ago, employment brought me to a part of the U.S. that has a reputation for being “unfriendly,” hectic and abrupt. I find the cliche has some truth; but then, I come from a part of the country with a reputation for being very hospitable, slow-paced and friendly. It’s been a challenge to live in an environment with habits and values that are sometimes so opposite of my own, so I can sympathize.


Angel B. July 11, 2012 at 7:14 am

I too live in a foreign country for work. While some of the customs are very different and I would even view as “rude”, I don’t feel the need to change them.

I honestly think the OP is overreacting. In many different countries, people do things differently. In some places I have lived, we are shoved in by the metro police like sardines. In others, people do as the OP does. And in still others, people do as the OP describes. If people really wanted to get in, they would ask people to move. It could be a view of personal space. It’s tough to judge by our standard of etiquette when in different places, it’s very different.

I think the OP should just adjust to it. When they return to wherever they are from, they can go back to what they think is acceptable. But they likely won’t change what people are doing; they may end up being seen as the rude ones.


Melissa July 11, 2012 at 7:18 am

I don’t think this has anything to do with a cultural proclivity. I’ve taken public transportation in several different countries as well as using it often in DC, Chicago, and Atlanta for work. Public transportation is, in my experience, like the DMV. Everyone has better things to be doing and just wants to get where they are going. It doesn’t matter if it’s a stop on the DC metro or a bus station in Djibouti City. You’ll encounter rudeness and a sense of self-interest. All you can do in these situations is to be polite, not let it get to you, and move on with your day.


livvy17 July 11, 2012 at 7:20 am

I don’t think the subway is the place to teach manners, especially to others, as you say. You have to adapt to their style, within reason. I do understand your pain – on my first visit to France, for a ski trip, it took me about an hour of standing in line for the lift (and not moving at all) to realize others were simply pushing past, moving around me, rather than waiting for “their turn” as we normally do at American ski resorts. I had the same experience in line for bridges when I first moved to New York City…in both places, the rule was every skiier or car for themselves, and the boldest gets to go first. In both instances, I adapted, learning to literally “go with the flow.” I would also add, New York Subways, Tokyo subways, and pretty much every subway I’ve ever been on follows the same pattern as you’ve described above.
I do think those who stop in front of the door are very rude (or at the top of escalators, etc.), but saying something will more likely provoke a much less polite response than you’d like. I’d learn to move with the crowd, and just think of it as part of the experience.


MrSillyGuy July 11, 2012 at 7:31 am

The OP is right it is very annoying. In the US we let people exit then enter. Whether it is an elevator, train, bus… However, when I was in Germany visiting my grandparents and using public transporation or getting on or off elevators people drove me crazy. They just go. Everyone trying to exit and enter all at the same time.


The Elf July 11, 2012 at 7:33 am

If it makes you feel any better, they do it like that in DC too. It’s not considerate, but it is normal. The only time I try to correct this is if the train is VERY crowded and I can’t get on. Then I’ll call out “Please go to the center of the train so that others can board”. It helps that the subway operator is saying the same thing.

The risk is that you may not be able to fight through the crowd enough to exit before the doors shut, which has also happened to me. But them’s the breaks. I just go to the next stop and either walk back or take the train in the opposite direction.


Jeanne July 11, 2012 at 9:01 am

I think all you can do is calmly but loudly say Excuse me until you get on the train. Other than that, not much to do. If you were to lecture them, the next day you would be faced with a whole new group of people. It’s not worth the effort.


Lily July 11, 2012 at 9:05 am

There are many customs out there that are illogical and inefficient, but for locals that’s “just the way things work.”

It’s not anyone’s place to dictated someone else’s local custom. There are plenty of weird local driving customs where I’m from that make no logical sense for someone a state over (and we get complaints from people not from around here for it) but it makes sense for us.

As admin stated, you can only change yourself.


GroceryGirl July 11, 2012 at 9:24 am

I’m not sure where the OP is but I don’t think that’s a local custom. I live in NYC and have traveled to many other cities and ridden many different metros – it seems like people do that everywhere. I don’t even think it’s rudeness, I chalk it up to the fact that people are overwhelmingly oblivious and generally inconsiderate.


amyasleigh July 11, 2012 at 9:28 am

If I read the OP correctly, the poster states that they are living in a foreign country, working for a French company; not saying outright that France is the actual country where they’re living and working. Possibly they are “sparing the local’s blushes” to some extent, by not naming the country?


WillyNilly July 11, 2012 at 9:32 am

This happens on NYC subways all the time. The ‘solution’ if you will (it doesn’t solve the issue long term, but is effective each time its applied) is 2 fold. First the announcers ask people via the PA system to “please step all the way in” at each stop. Sure its just voice over a box but its good because it makes it clear it is the official rule. The second step is the passengers themselves will, sometimes nicely, sometimes not so nicely, tell the passengers at the door to move in, often pointing to the space in the middle of the train to show there is fact plenty of room a few feet further in.

Many people, myself included will also simply say “excuse me” and push past. Not violently and not trying to hurt someone, but if they get jostled that’s their fault for purposely standing in the way, not my fault for pushing past.


Manic insomniac July 11, 2012 at 9:49 am

I think that after awhile I’d just be to Irritated by the behavior, if I didn’t have anything with me other then a messenger bag or purse id just get on the train, sure local customs it’s best to just get used to that, but common decency and lack of consideration of others is just rude behavior. Do locals get upset about others taking there time because they are “one of them”? Personally if you are going to get on the train and just sit down a few seats in, just do it I don’t think it would rude unless you did the same thing that the locals are doing, maybe others will follow suit. I also believe pubic transportation is a first come first served kind of thing, no matter where you are. Of course there are always things that you do to be respectful ie the elderly if they walk slow and you feel they should go on first and you behind them. (ladies and children first? Not unless running out of a burning building .


inNM July 11, 2012 at 9:56 am

I live in New Mexico, and take the buses quite regularly. I’ll notice that on rush hour, or with a full bus, the people standing love to congregate around the driver, while the back of the bus’ standing room is empty. Or they love to stand right in front of the door, even if they’re not taking a short trip. Then you have other passengers pushing while saying “Excuse me” really loudly, because, these people don’t realise they’re blocking the exit/way off the bus (and some get really upset).
I know there’s not much I can change the collective view of all passengers, but still, their behaviour amazes me, because they act like they really don’t understand why.


Alexis July 11, 2012 at 9:56 am

Subway/light rail riders the world over do this, it has nothing to do with France. People do it in Portland too–especially bad at the university stop because a lot if people get on at once. But on the plus side in PDX the train isn’t do crowded that you can’t get through.

If its honestly so crowded at the doors you can’t get in, you have to imagine most of those people are thinking they won’t be able to push through the crowd if THEY are polite and move away from the doors. That’s how this kind of behavior feeds on itself and becomes more common.


Annie July 11, 2012 at 10:38 am

If a few people do it, it’s rudeness. If everyone does it, it’s an unspoken social contract, and you don’t get to try to change it to a social contract that you would prefer.


Bint July 11, 2012 at 11:38 am

Really? You would ‘berate’ someone for this? Don’t ever come to London, will you? The spots near the door are prized by everyone – going down into the middle of the carriage is usually what the later on-comers do, because nobody wants to stand down there. It’s a pain getting off, it’s more claustrophobic, and it’s hotter. It’s accepted by the overwhelming majority of people on that train – people will shove down if they have to, but those by the doors shrink back against the doors to let more people on. Which, incidentally, they can usually do without any problems.

Your assumption that they are not ‘behaving properly’ is pretty arrogant! This *is* ‘behaving properly in many countries. Who on earth do you think you are to presume that your way is right and everyone else’s is wrong just because it doesn’t happen like that where you come from? Who are you to say they’re being rude, just because they are by your standards?


Cat Whisperer July 11, 2012 at 11:41 am

I think when you’re riding public transportation, especially during peak commuter hours, you’re kind of stuck with “survival any way you can”. In a perfect world, I’m sure people would behave with order and courtesy, but it isn’t a perfect world.

I don’t know if it’s “urban legend,” exaggeration, or plain truth, but I remember seeing stories that the subways in Tokyo used to employ people to help push subway riders into already packed cars to fit more people on them. To me, that’s one version of what hell would be like; but I gather that for some commuters, it’s business as usual.

…And then there are the buses and trains in some parts of the world where people are packed even onto the roofs, and people bring livestock on to ride with them to market as well, never mind places where there is no transport at all and if you want to get around, you better start walking. When you stop and think about it, however bad we think our situation is, you don’t have to look far or try hard to find someplace where things are worse.


Margaret July 11, 2012 at 11:41 am

It drives me crazy when people are inefficient about things like that. When I was at university, it drove me mad that (1) people would stop and chat IN THE ENTRANCES to the busiest areas, (2) that people would try to pass both ways through the same door instead of OPENING THE OTHER DOOR!!! — seriously — why be the idiot standing in front of a closed door waiting to slip through the open door where one hundred people are going the other way, and (3) that whenever there was a line up, people would line up ACROSS the hall, thus blocking everyone else, rather than along the wall so that the line formed an L-shape.


Pam July 11, 2012 at 12:53 pm

I am with those who recommend a polite “excuse me”. Smile, be nice – at the very least you feel better and with any luck a smile and kind attitude will rub off!


Marion the Librarian July 11, 2012 at 1:24 pm

I can’t think of a quicker path to frustration than trying to correct someone’s behavior on public transportation. Everyone views their own priorities as the highest, so you can see where there might be a conflict in trying to get a herd full of people to conform to your priorities, right?

In situations such as these, it helps immensely to have patience and a sense of humor. And I usually have at least one great public trans-related story to tell at parties.


Saucygirl July 11, 2012 at 1:25 pm

We have used metros and buses in many countries, and while I have seen (and particpates in) the standing next to the door, I chalk it up to a different reason. There are lots of hand holds in the door area. When seats are full and you have to stand, these are necessary. As someone just over 5 feet, moving into the aisle is very hard for me – I can’t reach the overhead hand holds. And I don’t really like having to grasp onto strangers when the train lurches. So the door, with it’s handholds, is where I safely stay.


MiseryLovesYou July 11, 2012 at 1:39 pm

I’m not suggesting that the comparison is a perfect one, but there once was a person who stood up against stupid customs on public transportation. Her name was Rosa Parks and society remembers her as a hero. I’m not suggesting OP take a stand though, you can’t fix people who are oblivious about the situation they cause or too selfish to care.


jen a. July 11, 2012 at 2:43 pm

It’s frustrating, but public transportation tends to be frustrating in general. I hate public transportation, especially in the summer. I have no idea why people would want to crowd even closer to others by the door this time of year. A few have already posted about the futility of saying something to the offenders, so I’ll only add that thinking over it too much will probably just add to your frustration.

Or, you know, if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em;) As the title of the story says…..


Spike July 11, 2012 at 4:10 pm

I live in a small city where we don’t have subways, but rather buses. We have the same problem when, during rush hour, the seats fill up and people are standing but for some reason will not move back down the aisle even as more people get on. Then the bus driver has to waste time yelling down the aisle for people to move back. I guess this kind of removes the onus from the average transit rider to speak up to fellow passengers. It sure is annoying though when the bus driver has to repeat themselves several times because people are too busy texting to notice, or think it doesn’t apply to them, or whatever. And then people wonder why the buses are late…


cori July 11, 2012 at 6:20 pm

This is the same behavior that drives me crazy when I fly. It is so irritating when the first people on the airplane (excluding first class) board and store all their carry on luggage in the first few overhead bins and then make their way to the back of the plane where their assigned seat is located. Then the people who are sitting in the first rows board, where do they store their stuff? because all those bins are full so then those people have to go all the way to the back to find storage space. In mid flight, people from the back are moving to the front and visa verse (to retrive laptops, blankets, books, snacks, whatever) and causes issues for people using the lavatory or flight attendants trying to assist passengers. Then the same inconsiderate people who stupidly stored their stuff in the front bins knowing they are sitting in the back fight there way to front so they can be the first off which causes the people in the front to fight their way to the back to retrieve their stuff. It is the most ridiculous thing I witness every time I fly. I can’t blame the people in the front fighting their way to the back as its not their fault people are stupid. People towards the front often pay a higher fare to be potentially the first off. The airlines should just get rid of all overhead bins if it does not fit under your seat, check or learn to pack better. Maddening…


Barry July 11, 2012 at 7:50 pm

When I lived in Chicago, they did the same thing. I always do the same thing. “Pardon Me …Excuse Me… Pardon Me.. Excuse Me.” I get louder until they “hear” me and move it. They think I am an ass, but they move.


Stacey Frith-Smith July 11, 2012 at 9:34 pm

I’m in agreement with Bint on this one. OP needs to be very careful that her experience of the transit isn’t extrapolated into incorrect views about how others experience the same ride. By her logic, only those arriving with her at the same time and sorted by length to destination would be “correct” in their use of public transport. Anyone whose height, time to destination, or prior arrival did not conform with the mental “curve” she has of how the population should be distributed through the transport car would be in error. Those arriving early and traveling longest would be condemned to fight their way forward, assuming commuters would part like the Red Sea to allow them to debark. It is indeed frustrating to have to share space with many people daily, especially if you aggravate the experience by imposing an unrealistic and overly simplified code of conduct on others and then “share” your helpful system with misapplied advice and unpleasant looks directed at violators. In an elevator, there are fewer contenders for space. Ideally, egress followed by ingress. In a train, you still have just egress and ingress, but many more stops, more people, more space, more variables. Be an example of courtesy and bring your sense of humor. It will go a long way towards allowing you to have a more pleasant journey. If you want to dictate the terms of who can sit or stand and where on transport, you will have to drive or hire a private car.


Cat July 11, 2012 at 10:48 pm

I cannot speak for other countries, but I still remember something that happened to me several years ago. I am a native Floridian (and there are a few of us down here) and I was at a discount shopping center right off I95 in St. Augustine.
A delivery man with a loaded push cart was right behind me so I held the door for him so he could bring his cart through. He stopped and asked me where I was from. When I told him he said, “I knew you weren’t from New York. No one in New York ever held a door for me.”
I didn’t know what to say other than, “Welcome to Florida.”


Renee July 12, 2012 at 4:26 am

Unfortunately once a few people block access to the aisles(which aren’t ideal due to lack of handholds and not ebeing wide enough for two people to pas, the doorway jam becomes inevitable.

There are always people standing in the doorway on peak-hour trains here. Often so much so that they get to my stop and there is literally no room to board as people are pressed against the doors. What we do though, once we get to the central stations, is everyone in the doorway (bar a few Snowflakes) gest off, and those who aren’t at their stop then get back on once others have disembarked. (Occasionally defnesive manoevers are required to make sure those courteously disembarking don’t lose their place. THAT is a cultural expectation here)


Nikki_Bee July 12, 2012 at 6:48 am

That is normal in London UK, where I am originally from. You should see it at peak shopping times at Christmas! For me, it is the things that go beyond this normal rudeness that are shocking – for example, a young guy got on the train at rush hour, pushing a blind person away from the rail he was holding on to in order to keep his bearings, when the blind man politely asked for his position at the rail back, the young guy started swearing and shouting at him. The young guy was unceremoniously dumped off the train and handed to a guard by a small group of rugby types, the last I saw as the train pulled away was the guard handing him over to the police!


delislice July 12, 2012 at 7:16 am

@cori, people started using overhead bins more when airlines started charging $25 per checked bag. We’re taking our first vacation in 10 years next week, and we saved for six months so that we could fly as a treat for the children. We’re very tightly budgeted, and it would mess us up to have to fork over $100 to check our bags.

Back in the day when you were allowed to check bags, I never put anything in the overhead bins.


Enna July 12, 2012 at 8:32 am

I like Sillyme’s idea, why doesn’t the OP write in about the problem? This is a global problem about people not moving along the gangway in buses and trains – in fact on London Underground the stationmasters actually ask people to move along the gangways to let more people on. There are also signs on buses and trains advising customers to give up “piority” seats to vulnerable people as well as keeping music down and to keep the gangways clear.

What I think though is if there trains/buses are too overcroweded there needs to be more of them during peak times because if there was an accident there would be an increased likelyhood of someone getting injured.


Smiling Charmer July 12, 2012 at 10:18 am

Hello everyone.

I’ve seen this subway issue happen in NYC, London, Paris and Rio de Janeiro, so I don’t really think it is something that happens only where OP is right now. However, I do understand the way he/she feels – I find it very annoying. I keep saying “excuse me”, “excuse me” and a few times I’m looked at as if I were crazy…. oy vey…


RP July 12, 2012 at 1:06 pm

@delislice – I get why people carry their luggage on but I agree with cori that it doesn’t make sense to use overhead bin space up front when the space above your seat is empty. People should store their bags as close to them as possible.

To the OP: It’s up to the driver and bus company to enforce any rules about riding the bus so the suggestion to write in is a good one. Even if it’s not considered rude in that country it’s still inefficient to have the first people on the bus block and slow down the entire line so the bus system may want to ask people to go to the back just to help keep them on schedule.


Elle July 12, 2012 at 1:31 pm

If this is the biggest frustration you have with culture clash OP, then you live a blessed life.


Jessica July 13, 2012 at 11:09 am

I live in rural southeastern England and commute by bus. (Before then, I lived in rural Scotland and commuted by bus.) Before I moved south I was told that the English always queue in an orderly fashion and get rather anal about bus queues. This is blatantly false. They elbow their way onto the bus as if it was the last chopper out of Saigon. Another thing that really annoys me is that they refuse to check if anyone wants to get off before they pile in, inevitably causing chaos as the bottleneck of the only door on the bus is clogged with people trying to get off fighting people trying to get on.

When I happen to be the first in line, I quickly check if anyone is moving towards the door. The roads are meandering and poorly kept and due to the free concession passes there are often many elderly people on the bus. I wouldn’t expect them to risk their femurs to get to the door before the bus is properly stopped and most of them, very reasonably, don’t – so they will inevitably be about halfway to the door when the shove starts mashing and there will be a second bottleneck just before the stairs to the top floor.

I _always_ get dirty looks for holding up the line (which often consists of other elderly people who will curse that they can’t get off, because of the crush, ten stops later) when I do this; but what also happens a lot is that the person behind me in the line decides I’m taking too long and simply shove in front of me. Invariably causing the same bottleneck and usually having to back off the bus again to let the pram or the walker (zimmer frame to you guys) that was moving towards the door and for whom I was waiting, off.

“When in Rome” is all good and well but I will not start shoving pensioners and prams just because the crush thinks I ought to. My way is more practical for everyone and to my mind it is also more considerate, no matter what the consensus of the queue is. The day they start having buses with “on” doors and “off” doors – like they do on some transport systems – I will stop playing nose tackle for the opposition. No matter how you dice it, letting people off first makes the whole transition so much smoother for _everyone_. Even the people who think they have to wait four seconds too long to get on will usually gain those four seconds when they don’t have to do the Lambada with hip replacements and do a hurdle race over prams and walkers to get to a seat.

In this case, I will hubristically decide that I know better than the particular majority that surrounds me at that given moment.


Ann July 13, 2012 at 11:34 am

I get past my ire at this type of rudeness by thinking of these people as a bunch of Mr. Magoos. Complete unawareness of surroundings, but without the cute cartoon character charm.


Shea July 13, 2012 at 12:23 pm

Just like others who’ve pointed out, it’s not limited to France. I’ve encountered the same thing on NY subways, the L in Chicago and metro systems in several other places in the US. There are things we cannot change. All you can do is be polite, but forceful in standing your ground to get around those who are in your way. After a while, it just becomes part of the routine.


Mabel July 13, 2012 at 3:45 pm

Just say “Pardon moi,” as you push past to get on the train. Blocking people from entering the car is rude no matter where you are.


Bint July 13, 2012 at 4:58 pm

“Before I moved south I was told that the English always queue in an orderly fashion and get rather anal about bus queues. This is blatantly false.” Followed by THEY do this and THEY do that, as if every single English person is the same, in this case rude on the buses.

How interesting. This might be better phrased as the people where you live in England are rude on buses. I commute in SE England by bus on occasion and this kind of behaviour is highly unusual. Lots of English people queue in an orderly fashion, get anal about bus queues. Using your one rural example to dump the SE English into strikes me as rather ridiculous.


KitKat July 13, 2012 at 11:27 pm

I’ve rarely had problems on public transportation the few times I’ve used it. I was visiting a friend down near D.C. and people would line up nicely near the car they wanted to get on and would let the people off before they got on. I only had one instance where it was a crush of people but it was “rush hour” and raining outside. However, everyone walked to their right so there was a flow of people in and out of the train.


LindseyD July 21, 2012 at 11:21 pm

I’ve lived in Rome and DC and while I saw the same sort of disregard for other people as far as crowding was concerned, Rome was definitely more dangerous–people would get shoved around, knocked over, people would refuse to move into the space they could get into and the doors would close on people’s limbs, etc. But I think it’s just a major city issue. Or a city-that-thinks-it’s-better-than-it-is thing, idk. However, the order you get on should have nothing to do with where you stand–it honestly can’t, the time you have to do things and the amount of people that often have to get on makes that too hard to do. All you CAN do is move aside when other people need to approach the doors to get off at the next stop.


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