A Road Obstacle Of A Different Kind

by admin on September 24, 2012

I live in a nice residential neighborhood in a busy city. In my city, there are lots of actors. For an actor, having a nice head shot is a necessity to their work, and as a result, a number of small business photographers are also in the area.

To get to my home, you exit the freeway and go a few blocks down a busy arterial rode, where the typical speed limit is 35-45 MPH, but people will go as fast as they can get away with. If you slow before making a turn, especially during rush hour, people will run up on your rear (tailgate), honk, otherwise be rude. It’s not a city known for having the friendliest or the best drivers. But that’s not why I’m writing.

Imagine you are coming home from a long day. You’re driving down Busy Street, blinking because you’re slightly angled into the sunshine because it’s 6 PM, the sun’s setting and you’re facing south/southwest. You turn from Busy Street on to your sweet residential, tree-lined street. As you’re turning west, you’re now facing directly into the setting sun, so you have to squint. Almost immediately after making the turn, you pass under several heavy trees that create extremely heavy shade, and then, just as your eyes have a chance to adjust from the bright glare to the dark shade–you are slamming on your brakes because there is a woman standing on a chair smack dab in the middle of the road taking a photo, with another person sitting below the chair, looking up. And, by the way, the road is narrow enough that you really couldn’t swerve around them at all unless you wanted to hit a parked car.

Then you have to wait a couple of minutes while she moves the chair/ladder/step stool (she switches it up) out of your way.

Having lived here for a couple of years, I’m now somewhat acclimated to this, and I know to try and slow down before making the turn (actually pretty hard in this area, since, as I mentioned, other drivers get PO’d and honk at you if you slow down) and be really careful in that area, but the first time it happened I had to slam on my brakes to avoid hitting her and I almost had a heart attack. And she does it all of the time, usually with a chair or step ladder. I catch her in the street at least once a month – and she always does it during the “magic hour”, right as the sun is setting, and she always does it in the shady area where the street transitions from light to dark. I know that the light is probably really good for photography right there, but seriously, is it worth the risk? I’ve also “encountered” this woman one block up (again, on a chair in the middle of the street), lying on the ground on another road, taking a photo angled up, it’s like she’s our own resident obstacle course – you can’t turn into the neighborhood at a certain time of day without double-checking to make sure she’s not there.

I don’t get it. I don’t. Especially since, while I try and go slowly in our area, I know that a lot of other drivers try and cheat the lights of a nearby arterial by zipping down our street at the highest possible speed they can imagine.

So here is my question: I know that as a driver, I have to share a road with a pedestrian, but is it rude of me to honk at her? Once, I wouldn’t mind, but it happens on such a regular basis and it just hits me as so dangerous (to her and her customer) it kind of makes me angry. I have rolled down the window and said, “You know, it’s really dangerous because of the light right here makes it hard to see you. You should take your photos somewhere else.” But she hasn’t changed her methods.

Advice on how to handle this?   0921-12

It seems to me that you’ve been doing just fine with handling the problem.   The only addition I would make is to contact the police and inform them of what this particular photographer is doing that creates a road hazard.   Perhaps have your camera phone ready to take a picture of the obstacle in the road you repeatedly encounter.

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jena rogers September 24, 2012 at 6:24 am

I agree with Admin. Photographer has a death wish. If she appears non-threatening, I personally wouldn’t have hesitated to be a little more assertive in my languge and tell her to get out of the street as she’s creating a road hazard not only for herself but for others. Since you’ve already told her something to that effect, however, it’s time to get the authorities involved, pronto!


Katie2 September 24, 2012 at 6:53 am

I’d contact the police rather than confronting the woman directly. This is ridiculous! She could get killed or cause someone else to be seriously injured. The middle of the road is no place to conduct a photo-shoot, however good the light might be…


Cherry September 24, 2012 at 7:05 am

I agree with Katie2 – I’m pretty sure the police would have something to say about the matter since she’s endangering herself and others. See if you can find out who she is and let the police know her most common “haunts”.


ferretrick September 24, 2012 at 7:25 am

Definitely call the police and report her, not just once but every time it happens, so there’s an ongoing record. Personally, maybe I’m a little overcautious, but I’d be starting my own log of every time this happens to keep at home. Sooner or later she’s going to get hit, and I’ll bet money she’ll sue the driver of the car.


Green123 September 24, 2012 at 7:30 am

Admin is right that the police ought to be informed about this woman’s highly dangerous antics. She could be killed or injured, and she could cause an accident in which others are killed or injured. It’s just too high a risk to take ‘for the good light’ and I’m sure the police will take appropriate action to stop her endangering herself and others in this way, particularly as she’s doing it frequently.

The OP might want to invest in a good pair of sunglasses, preferably photo-reactive ones, if he/she is having to squint while driving. That’s not to say I think he/she is doing anything wrong – the fault here is entirely with madcap photographer woman – but it might make driving at this time of day more comfortable and safe.


Kimberly September 24, 2012 at 7:38 am

I agree with everyone else. Contact the police. I would think in order for this woman to do what she is doing, she would need some type of permit. She would also need to have equipment to put up to warn people that there is a hazard ahead. Like orange cones, etc.


Angela September 24, 2012 at 7:44 am

Count me in with Admin. This is a potentially life-threatening situation you’re describing rather than a pure etiquette violation, and it is an issue for law enforcement. And it sounds like she’s putting subjects at risk as well as herself.


starstruck September 24, 2012 at 7:46 am

omg! that is insane. yes please call the cops right away . this could cause a horrible accident not just for her but another driver. imagine an unexperienced teen driver swerving to miss her and having an accident or maybe even hitting a mom with a stroller or something. she might as well be planting an obstacle in the road. if she would have been doing this where i lived someone would call the police the first time they saw her and rightfully so. if she does it after you’ve called the police call the police again. this really is just a matter of when not if.


Kimstu September 24, 2012 at 8:03 am

Yes, this is against traffic regulations. Pedestrians have the right to be in the street for the purpose of proceeding to a destination (e.g., crossing it, walking next to the curb if the sidewalk is blocked or nonexistent, etc.), not hanging out in the middle of traffic lanes to conduct their business and/or social life.

I’m a hardcore pedestrian/cyclist myself who doesn’t even own a car, but I have absolutely zero sympathy with this recklessly irresponsible and selfish misinterpretation of “share the road”. If people are deliberately putting obstacles in the road, they should have the proper permissions, signage, traffic cones and so forth.

However, OP, you should not honk at this idiot, since clearly she’s indifferent to the inconvenience she’s causing for drivers, not to mention the risk she’s exposing herself and her clients to. You did your best to address the problem with a polite explanation and admonishment, but she evidently didn’t understand or doesn’t care, so rudely honking at her is unlikely to accomplish anything.

The best thing you can do for all concerned is to alert the police whenever this happens: bust her, um, derriere and save her life. Especially since if she DOES get hit someday by a driver who was not driving recklessly but was merely caught off guard by the change of light and her irresponsible misuse of the roadway, having a police-log record of your complaint about this dangerous hazard will help protect that driver from being unfairly penalized.

In fact, you might politely let Idiot Photographer know that you’re making these complaints to the police, and point out to her that this could have insurance consequences for her if somebody hits her. Make your manner helpfully/regretfully informative rather than scoldingly judgemental, and you may get the satisfaction of watching her lose her cool as it dawns on her that there might actually be some consequences for her special snowflake self if she continues heedlessly inconveniencing and endangering other people in the name of her “art”.


Twik September 24, 2012 at 8:20 am

See if you can get her name (hey, maybe she’ll give you a card!) and then report her to the police.

Unfortunately, it’s not her choice to take her life in her hands. Someone can get seriously hurt trying to avoid her, not to mention knowing you hit someone (even when it’s not your fault) could be devastating.


WillyNilly September 24, 2012 at 8:25 am

Like others I say call the police – every time. But I would actually go one step further, I’d get on the internet onto review sites (like Yelp and/or Google) and warn people of her practices. Customers might not realize what they are signing up when they contract her (after all their lives are endangered too) and might just take her assurances “its safe” as true if they aren’t familiar with your street. By publicly calling her out as having unsafe practices, she might have motivation to change her methods. Surely there are parks, yards, etc nearby that can also offer great natural lighting in a safer environment.


Jay September 24, 2012 at 8:30 am

Police, definitely.


Chrysla September 24, 2012 at 8:38 am

Sharing the road with a pedestrian is one thing, but she is not being a pedestrian. She is using city property as her own photo studio and I bet she doesn’t have a city permit to block traffic for her photo shoot. Dangerous Dangerous Dangerous. Thank you OP for being particularly understanding and careful, but you really should call the police, you can do so anonymously and you may save the life of not only her but her client. Please make that call!


Amber September 24, 2012 at 8:39 am

Agreed with calling the police and letting them know. It’s only a matter of time before her luck runs out and someone smacks her and her subject.


Brockwest September 24, 2012 at 8:55 am

I agree with admin. on calling the police. She is not only endangering herself, but you and bystanders who could be hurt if you swerve.
Though not proper etiquette, I might be inclined to lay on the car horn. This would make her client uncomfortable. It’s not really fair to the neighbors though.

I would certainly advise the purchase of polarized sunglasses/clip-ons. They work like blinds in the window, so only let in direct light, completely abolishing reflected light and glare, so you can see to drive safely.


lkb September 24, 2012 at 9:00 am

In addition to the police, contact your city hall. There may be ordinances in place to prevent such things (if there isn’t contact a city official about having one created). It may also be wise to get together with other residents/businesses on the street to stop this person somehow (whether by all contacting the police/city hall or some other means).

One last idea. Many local papers have a gripe line, where people can anonymously record their comments about local affairs both good and bad. If you have one, you can anonymously complain about “the photographer based out of X who insists on taking photographs in the middle of Y street during rush hour when the sun makes it hazardous” etc. (Your paper would print it as long as it doesn’t name the specific company.) The photographer will definitely learn from the decreased business.


Virg September 24, 2012 at 9:05 am

The only issue I have is in labelling a person standing on a chair in the middle of the road a “pedestrian”. She’s creating a road hazard, and a call to the police with pictures taken from your pocket camera/cell phone will likely garner her enough of a fine to stop her before she gets badly hurt.



Margaret September 24, 2012 at 9:23 am

I suggest keeping a log of dates and locations that this occurs. Snap a photo as well, if you are so inclined. Periodically present the log to the police. At some point, someone is going to hit her (maybe even you), and the driver is going to face serious consequences (possibly criminal charges, possibly lawsuit from victim or victim’s family, probably feelings of guilt). It would be fortunate for them if there was evidence that the photographer regularly chose to stand/sit/lie in the street in such a manner.


AS September 24, 2012 at 9:45 am

I agree with the admin. Time to call the authorities, and take a picture on your phone-camera or a real camera for proof. She is crazy or what?


Wendy September 24, 2012 at 9:52 am

I take pictures as part of my job for the newspaper. We have a pretty hard and fast rule…no picture (or story, for that matter) is worth risking your life for. Therefore, no matter how awesome a shot it would be, if there’s a chance you’d be hurt (or killed) it’s not worth it. Pass it up.

Apparently this woman is either dense or thinks the shot is worth the risk. The only way she’s going to learn otherwise is if she gets a visit by the local police, or, worse, gets hurt. I think we’d all be happier if the police showed up.


Justin September 24, 2012 at 10:14 am

Admin is absolutely right here. This woman is creating a danger and the authorities need to be made aware. This also creates a paper trail to protect the OP and others. Imagine someone hits the photographer and injures her and the photographer decides to sue. If there is a record of this woman engagging in risky behaviour and being ordered to stop it will protect the person who didn’t expect her to be in the road.

A great picture is nice, but it is never worth a human life.


Ashley September 24, 2012 at 10:30 am

I agree with admin, and have your phone ready to document this once or twice so you can PROVE it’s happening.


Elle September 24, 2012 at 11:03 am

Forget honking (which would be perfectly justified since the purpose of a horn is to alert other people of your presence). A pedestrian is someone who crosses the street, not someone who creates dangerous traffic situations. I don’t think honking will do anything to change her mind (I imagine honking and politely worded safety cautions are the least of what is hurled at them every time they do this), but it may very well alert other drivers that there is *something* going on.

This is not a matter of etiquette. This is a gorram SAFETY issue. Call the cops to report this road hazard. Every time. Encourage others to do the same. She is endangering property and lives. So (wo)man up.

“Perhaps have your camera phone ready to take a picture of the obstacle in the road you repeatedly encounter.”
No. No. No. Absolutely not. This is a hazardous enough situation to begin with, you do NOT need to be adding another distraction to it. I don’t care if you’re stopped, you know your phone well, already have it ready to snap away, and it will just take a second. It IS a distraction and it WILL further interfere with your ability to react to anything that happens. If you feel the need to get photographic evidence then give the camera to a passenger.


Cat September 24, 2012 at 11:05 am

Agreed, notify the police. Sitting in a chair in the middle of a street sounds more like the stunt of teenagers than of a mature woman.
If your car has a very loud horn, you might drive very slowly up behind said chair and lay on the horn.
I had some children who played in the street in preference to a park which was across the street. They were so intent on the game, they did not hear my car. When no one moved. I laid on the horn and scared the team that had their back s to me. I did not do it to frighten them, but to remind them that they might not hear the car that could kill them if the driver was inattentive/texting/phoning/intoxicated/high.Their games were then moved to the park.


Calli Arcale September 24, 2012 at 12:02 pm

If you want photographic evidence, I would suggest one of two options:

1) If you manage to spot the woman before turning, proceed to the next street. Park. Walk back. She’s probably still there; take the picture on foot from the sidewalk (like a sane person).

2) You can purchase “dashcams” fairly inexpensively these days. My husband installed one on his car. It records constantly, up to 45 minutes (IIRC). If something interesting happens, you can pull out the card to get the footage off of the camera. Otherwise, once it has filled its data storage, it overwrites. The beauty of it is that you can get footage of things you weren’t expecting to see, without any intervention on your part until after you have arrived at your destination.


Library Diva September 24, 2012 at 12:55 pm

I quite agree that this is not a “share the road” type situation. This woman is being completely disrespectful of everyone — motorist, pedestrian, biker, and skater — who wishes to use the road for its intended purpose. What’s more, she’s putting her subjects at risk. Call the police about this. Call the paper’s anonymous gripe line. Take it to Yelp and Google Reviews. Whatever you have to do in order to stop this, before someone gets killed.


Abby September 24, 2012 at 1:09 pm

I don’t understand why the light is so much better in the middle of the street than it is, say, anywhere else in the same area at the same time. Surely the photographer can find a location where the risk of being maimed by a partially sun-blinded driver isn’t so high. I agree the police should be called on this one.


kingsrings September 24, 2012 at 1:16 pm

Something similar happened to me recently when I was having my headshots taken. My photographer positioned me on the sidewalk, then stepped into the street briefly to take a shot. There was no traffic going by at the time, but it still alarmed me, and I admonished him on the danger of this. No great, ideal artistic shot or perfect lighting is worth being injured or killed for, after all! What this woman is doing is so dangerous, and the fact that she’s done it repeatedly and is even “camping out” to do it is even scarier. If I were a driver, I would definitely alert her to the fact that it is dangerous and risky by honking or shouting through the window. I would also let her know that I was planning on calling the police about it if she doesn’t stop. She probably doesn’t care for any number of reasons since she’s already ignoring the obvious danger, but at least she knows others are alarmed by it.


gramma dishes September 24, 2012 at 1:22 pm

Is anyone else wondering why her photo subjects don’t object to this? After all, she’s endangering them as much as she’s endangering herself. I think if my photographer instructed me to sit in the street looking up at them while they stand on a chair that is also in the middle of the street, I’d probably think it was time to look for a new photographer!


Laura September 24, 2012 at 1:43 pm

My daughter is taking her driver’s test next week, 2 days after her 16th birthday. I shudder to think how a young, inexperienced driver would handle this!! Not to mention having to live with hitting someone with your car when it wasn’t your fault to begin with. This is just irresponsible and incredibly dangerous.


Angel September 24, 2012 at 1:57 pm

Calli Arcale has some good advice. I would try and get police involved on this one before a tragedy occurs. What an idiot photographer. To me this goes beyond etiquette into the realm of public safety. Hope everything turns out ok!


Angeldrac September 24, 2012 at 2:15 pm

There’s alot of discussion about the SAFETY of this situation, let’s focus on the ETIQUETTE of the situation:
I’m imagining that this woman’s thought process is something like this: “The cars will just go around me, it’s only me and I’m special, after all, everyone else will cope”. Basically, she’s focussing entirely on herself and getting her job done, not sparing any consideration for others – behaving selfishly basically, being a special snowflake.
I used to live very close to a major hospital, renowned for it’s extremely poor parking facilities. As such, almost every time I drove anywhere, I’d be stuck behind a car or several driving at 15kph scanning the streets for spots. We’d also have cars parked halfway across the driveway (and all the way across the driveway on a couple of occasions), and right on the corner of intersections. The thought process of these people, I imagine, was similar to the photographer’s “it’s only me, after all, everyone else will deal with this, I’m special and I need a parking spot” – oblivious to the fact that EVEYONE was thinking this, and, the local residents were having to put up with every special snowflake thinking this and doing this everyday.
In short, this photographer is a thoughtless, selfish and inconsiderate individual. All the more so, as OP has even pointed out the dangers of her actions, yet she continues to behave this way. Running her over isn’t the worst idea……


The Elf September 24, 2012 at 2:34 pm

Since this is a pedestrian impeding right of way for vehicles, I think honking would be appropriate. I agree with Elle about the phone camera – for the love of all that is holy don’t make it worse by distracting yourself with a phone and taking inordinate amount of time to get around the obstacle. I cannot count the number of times a car has almost run me over (I’m on a motorcycle) because they are fumbling with their phones. I can see them very clearly through their window/windshield; I know exactly what they are doing. They apparently can’t see me, though, because they are looking at their phone. Call the police if you want – it would be a legitimate call.

Since I’m on a motorcycle, I would be sorely tempted to continue on my way through the obstruction if I could. Neither chair, photographer, or motorcycle needs the full lane width, and I bet it would ruin the shot!


anonever13 September 24, 2012 at 3:06 pm

@Abby, I’m guessing she does it in the middle of the street because otherwise she’d have to do it on private property and she doesn’t want to ask for permission (or has been denied permission). The sidewalk is probably out because of the parked cars interfering with the set up of her photos (reflections off the windows, etc.).


Doris September 24, 2012 at 3:07 pm

If you really want to put a stop to it – in addition to calling the police – tell her client how many people have been photographed the same way. Therefore, it’s too unoriginal to catch anyone’s attention. Getting her name and leaving comments on an internet rating site will also get the word out.


Stacey Frith-Smith September 24, 2012 at 4:28 pm

It is a good idea to call the police and City Hall. Photographic evidence would be helpful. In addition, you might consider complaining to you Homeowner’s Association, if there is one, the Better Business Bureau (since her business practices show poor corporate citizenship and risk the health and safety of others) and any professional associations she belongs to of which you obtain knowledge. Your goal is to use the power of persuasion via social disapproval and socially negative exposure to make it much more uncomfortable for her to continue her present practice. A street is a public venue for passage and special permits are required for exceptions. This ought to be on your list of questions to ask City Hall since you may have to coach any police officer taking a complaint as to exactly which bit of law or code she is violating. Sunglasses, ditto! And ignore the horns! Drive safely. You can never get back a lost life but you can recover from the annoyance of being honked at. (That might be worth starting a campaign for to increase traffic interdiction- more money for the city’s coffers anyway.)


Cat Whisperer September 24, 2012 at 4:55 pm

Two things:

1. Report this woman to the police IMMEDIATELY. And if you see her in the middle of the road, call 911. What she is doing is illegal, stupid and dangerous. She needs to be stopped before a tragedy happens. Raise absolute hell if the police refuse to act; this is an accident waiting to happen.

2. Regarding: “…I know to try and slow down before making the turn (actually pretty hard in this area, since, as I mentioned, other drivers get PO’d and honk at you if you slow down)…” OP, why are you letting other people direct you how to drive your car?

I’m a licensed private pilot. When I was learning to fly, I went through a period where I was slow at doing everything. The airport where I learned to fly is a busy airport, with commuter aircraft, a lot of flight schools, helicopters and all kinds of charter aircraft. So when you land, the control tower wants you to clear the runway “no delay” because chances are someone is on short final right behind you.

So one day I landed and got the usual communication from the control tower to leave the runway, no delay. I tried to turn off onto the taxiway before I was stabilized on the ground, and it took some really sharp intervention by my flight instructor to keep us from running right off the runway and flipping the airplane over.

My instructor gave me a talking-to I will never forget. When we were safely off the runway and stabilized, he stopped the airplane and asked me why the *@!# I had tried to turn off the runway before I was stabilized for taxi. “Because the controller told me ‘no delay’,” I bleated.

“Is the controller flying the airplane for you? Is he at the controls? How are you letting someone who is sitting 200 yards away and 100 feet above you tell you to fly your airplane?” My instructor demanded.

“But he’s the controller! And someone else was on final!” I whined.

“But YOU’RE the PILOT IN COMMAND! What would have happened if you’d flipped the airplane trying to get off the runway? Would the controller have been in trouble with the FAA? No. You would. And that guy on final that you’re trying to get out of the way of: if you flip the airplane, what happens? He has to go around. Most likely to another airport, because they have to close this runway while they haul YOUR wreck away. So he’s delayed anyway. If you tell the controller ‘cannot comply’ when he asks you to leave the runway without delay, he just tells the guy behind you to go around. So they get mad at you and maybe call you names. So what. They go around, you get off the runway, ten minutes later it’s all forgotten and everyone is safe.”

And then he told me that if I EVER let someone else who wasn’t even in the cockpit fly the airplane for me, he’d fail me on the spot and I’d have to find another instructor.

OP, it doesn’t matter if there’s a whole herd of truckers blowing their airhorns right on your tailpipe and everyone is giving you the one-finger salute and screaming obscenities about your ancestry and inviting you to do anatomically impossible acts with yourself, you DON’T let them tell you how you’re going to drive your car around that curve!!!! If you have to slow down to a crawl because there’s glare, because you can’t see, because it just plain old doesn’t feel safe to you, then SLOW DOWN TO A CRAWL. Pull over if you have to and let the honkers pass you. But don’t ever, not ever, let someone who isn’t in the car with you tell you how fast to go or how you drive.

…Because if you do, and there’s an accident, the people who are going to suffer the consequences aren’t the people who are honking at you or flipping you the bird or flashing their lights or whatever. They’ll be long gone and they’ll never be found. You’ll be the person dealing with the consequences of the accident.

Never let other people outside your car do things that make you drive in a way you don’t feel comfortable with. Never. Not ever. No matter how mad they get or how nasty they act. You’re the driver.


Catvickie September 24, 2012 at 5:49 pm

Agree with everything–and for OP–wear sunglasses so you can see!


Shoebox September 24, 2012 at 8:56 pm

Yeah, if somebody’s telling me to go sit in the middle of a busy street to take photographs… wow. So not happening.

I can only think that she must have one incredible spiel to get clients to go along with her crazy, and the sense of special snowflake-ness — why, her Art literally stops traffic! — she’d need to make that spiel convincing is undoubtedly why she’s ignoring the OP’s polite admonishment.

Thus I’d suggest skipping right over trying to shame her straight and going right to the law — frankly calling 911 on the spot doesn’t sound like a bad idea. Leave cutting through that level of pretension to the experts.


Kimberly September 24, 2012 at 10:31 pm

When you are calm – call the nonemergency number and ask them who you should call when it happens. Then call every time it happens. If you find out the name of the business I would leave a negative review “Regularly Endangers The lives of customers and bystanders by setting up photo shoots in traffic.

Almost every Saturday I call the Nonemergency number about multiple “youth sports teams” sending kids (some look like 3rd – 5th graders) into traffic at an intersection of a 7 lane FM road and a 7 lane State Highway to panhandle. It will stop after a couple of weeks. Then restart a month later. Actually I wish I could find out the leagues these kids play in and get their “coaches” banned for being idiots. That assumes the whole thing isn’t some scam.


Enna September 25, 2012 at 5:52 am

Cat Whipserer also makes a good point – do not let other drivers intimidate you to speed – I would actually go as far to say even if someone is in the car with you, unreasonably complaining about your driving ignore them or offer to drop them off a the side of the road: distracting the driver is dangerous. Yes you should report this strange woman to the police but if you have an accident because you were going too fast then you will responsible for it.


Mabel September 26, 2012 at 4:17 pm

38Cat Whisperer- Excellent example, and I was thinking this when I read the OP’s statement. I hate when people slow way down to turn but usually I realize it’s because I was following too close to begin with! OP can also use that turn signal–click it on way back and start to slow down. The honkers will see that the car is turning way before it gets there and will have plenty of time to zoom around.

As for the photographer, oh hell yeah, call the cops. OP, this is covering YOUR butt because if you do hit her one day, YOU will be on the hook for it. If you can produce a report (or several) saying “Yes, she does this on a regular basis, etc.” it will help your case. Or you may help someone else’s. The cops can look it up and say “There is a record of complaints regarding this particular person at this location doing this activity.” The cops will show up at the accident, and the ones on that particular beat will know what happened. I try to think if it’s something that would satisfy Judge Judy, then it’s probably paperwork that I will need. 😉


Kate September 28, 2012 at 1:24 am

I agree with both Admin and Cat Whisperer. It can be intimidating driving along at the speed limit with other people honking at you, but really, nothing good can come from exceeding the speed limit to please them. If you get a speeding ticket, they won’t pay it. If you hit a car or a pedestrian, they won’t face the legal and financial consequences.
I’m a strictly-to-the-speed-limit kind of driver and yes, I’ve been honked at by impatient drivers, but I’ve also never had a speeding fine or car accident. Worth it in my opinion.


Ultra Venia October 1, 2012 at 5:09 pm

Mabel, sometimes I can get impatient with slow turning drivers, but I try to remember sometimes the driver or passenger may have painful physical issues or recent surgery and or seemingly nonexistent shocks like the ones in my husband’s 25-year-old truck.


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