Karma Works Both Ways

by admin on August 30, 2016

Dear Jeanne,

This isn’t exactly my story as it made national Italian media and the heartless idiot in question published it on social media.

As you probably know, the night between 23rd and 24th August central Italy was hit by a magnitude-6.2 earthquake: several towns were completely destroyed, more than 200 people were killed and many more were wounded and left homeless. One of the worst hit towns was Amatrice, in Latium.

Enter vegan “celebrity” Daniela Martani – her claim to fame coming from being a former Bog Brother contestant.
On twitter she asked whether Amatrice was the birthplace of Amatriciana sauce, which contains bacon. She was told that yes, it was.

She then tweeted that the earthquake was karma.

Daniela actually posted it to her Facebook profile and it was then shared via Twitter.  Daniela Martani’s twitter can be viewed at https://twitter.com/danielamartani  where someone screen saved the Facebook post and tweeted it.

Like many celebrity’s caught blathering something inane on social media, Daniela claims her Facebook account was hacked and someone else posted that to her profile.   I had to do some translation but the message from Facebook she appears to present as evidence doesn’t confirm the existence of a hacker of her account nor validates her story but merely acknowledges receipt of her complaint…

“We will contact you as soon as we’ve reviewed the profile you reported because pretending to be someone else…”

{ 32 comments… read them below or add one }

Twik August 30, 2016 at 7:38 am

Ah yes, the mysterious hackers who are never noticed by the “real” celeb until they get hit with a backlash.

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Michelle August 30, 2016 at 7:55 am

I have notice that, too!

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Amanda H. August 30, 2016 at 9:46 am

Social media’s version of “I was just kidding” or “can’t you take a joke?”

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JD August 30, 2016 at 8:08 am

So… making a sauce that contains bacon is the equivalent of hundreds of deaths of innocent people, with lives and livelihoods ruined for many others? The destruction of towns and ancient treasures?
I’m not familiar with her — has she made other statements in the same vein? Is it likely that she made these statements?
If she did, I don’t want to become familiar with her.

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DGS August 30, 2016 at 8:40 am

What an tacky, classless idiot! Kind of like that politician that claimed that LGBT people marrying is what caused hurricanes that had his own beach house wiped out by a hurricane…amazing how people let their petty judgments and fears fly in the service of hurting others and promoting their own selfish agendas!

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Michelle August 30, 2016 at 9:10 am

How incredibly tacky! People died, families lost their homes and their lives are forever changed, but please, Daniela Martaini, make sure you tell them that this tragedy was because they dared to eat bacon and add it to a sauce! Shame, shame, shame- on you, not them.

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Aleko August 30, 2016 at 10:15 am

The nastiness of that post is only exceeded by its stupidity. If Amatrice has been flattened because it’s famous for making pasta with a few bits of bacon in the sauce, why wasn’t Parma flattened for being one of the world’s most celebrated producers of ham?

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Vrinda August 30, 2016 at 10:17 am

There are militant vegans and vegetarians like this. They are vicious and even go as far as to call non-vegetarians names and threaten them with violence. I’ve run into several on YouTube.

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Dee August 30, 2016 at 11:50 am

People who hold extreme beliefs (rigidly religious, far left/right political beliefs, restrictive diets for no good reason, etc.) are often/usually extreme in other areas of their lives as well. The one is not exclusive from the other and suggests that there is an overall personality/mental health issue underlying the behaviour. I am not surprised a vegan aired this view regarding a natural disaster. We have more than a few militant vegans wearing lettuce bikinis at restaurants around here, making fools of themselves. They can’t be reasoned with because they start out with a lack of reason. That’s the real problem. I feel sorry for people like this but have little patience for them, either. At least as long as they are focussed on something pointless they’re only annoying people and making themselves look stupid, not actually doing something harmful.

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Kirsten August 31, 2016 at 9:39 am

I am very surprised a vegan aired this view, because most vegans are normal people, and most normal people are compassionate and caring.

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Vrinda August 31, 2016 at 10:14 am

Dee, if you never saw this, check out a story called Food Boundaries from September 26, 2012. You’ll see a militant vegetarian who went as far as to throw out food her hostess had in order to enforce her beliefs, she didn’t physically harm anyone, but her behavior was bizarre and bordered on mental illness. She thought her hostess was going to sneak into her room at night and eat her.

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EchoGirl August 31, 2016 at 11:23 pm

I agree wholeheartedly…as a vegetarian (by choice), I’ve faced some seriously obnoxious behavior from meat-eaters too. The problem is not the specific issue at hand, the problem is people who feel that their way of doing things is the only right way and that everyone who doesn’t do it their way is deserving of ridicule.

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lakey August 30, 2016 at 4:22 pm

I think that the most screwed up extremists gravitate to social media and online sites because they don’t have to face the real world accountability that they would get if they said these things to real people who were right in front of them.

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Dee August 31, 2016 at 11:32 am

lakey – no, I know more than a few who do their evangelism in person. They believe they are brave for offending people with the “truth”. There always has been and always will be kooks; people who cannot think for themselves and are also very outspoken. I almost feel sorry for them.

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Lex August 31, 2016 at 9:12 am

I don’t understand how choosing to eat or not eat particular foods or groups of foods turns a person from a perfectly nice individual, to a frothing, raging, militant psycho. I choose not to eat seafood (because it all tastes like metal and ammonia to me) but you don’t hear me spouting off at people in Sushi bars for their choices. I own Rabbits as pets, but you won’t find me picketing restaurants that serve game (and Rabbit in particular). So why should Vegans and Vegetarians be any different?

Make your choice, and by all means share health benefits or discoveries (For example, the Activist Vegan I work with noticed that when she stopped drinking dairy, her bad skin cleared up. She recommended it to me, I tried it (by choice) and discovered the same thing!), but don’t ram it down peoples’ throats!

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Ulla September 1, 2016 at 12:10 am

There is nothing to understand because that is not the reason. It’s more likely caused by underlying mental health issues, or that the “nice individual” was not nice to begin with. Because countless people manage to eat vegetarian and vegan food, or manage to find faith in what ever deity or have political agendas, and yet, only small handful of those turn to frothing, raging, militant psychos. A person who turns to militant psycho for veganism, would most likely turn to militant psycho for dog breeding, collecting stamps or joining church also.

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Vrinda September 1, 2016 at 10:41 am

Even then, dairy products cause acne because some of them have certain chemicals put in, so whatever your co-worker and you drank was treated with hormones which caused acne, but not all milk products will cause it. For decades, people drank milk with no effects on their skin, so something changed in the manufacturing. It’s about what specific product you buy and it ‘s ingredients, so you have to check the labels.

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silvertech August 30, 2016 at 10:27 am

Italian here.

I didn’t really know who that woman is, so my guess is she was trying to get some visibility, in the grossest possible way. She got a lot of backlash and furious comments on Italian media and on social media, and I can confirm that the claim that her profile had been hacked is not confirmed (nor credible, I think). Unfortunately, comments of the same vein and worse have been popping up on social media since the earthquake, with people:

– making racist comments (immigrants stealing resources we need!!!1!11)
– blabbing about supposed conspiracies (it’s HAARP!1!! the government is hiding the real magnitude of the earthquake!!11!)
– criticizing everything and everyone from the celebrity who personally went there to pull people from the rubble (and actually did it) to the private citizen who posted a video of the earthquake taken by his own security cameras (OMGFAKE!!!)

Daniela Martani, unfortunately, happened to be the most popular of these jerks. I’m staying mostly off social media these days, because I can’t deal with these people.

PS I don’t live in the affected area and everyone I know is safe, but it’s painful nonetheless… 🙁

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mark August 30, 2016 at 11:09 am

I agree this is just someone running from the backlash. Celebrities have had their social media accounts hacked but the timing and circumstances on this make this too convenient to be a likely explanation. If revealing pictures of her showed up in random corners of the internet, then it would make more sense that she was hacked.

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NostalgicGal August 30, 2016 at 12:57 pm

The mind of the Militant Vegan. I hate them in general. I’m a medical vegan, so the only reason I eat the diet is because the doctor ordered me to for health reasons. I live with an omnivore and prepare him meat all the time. I have no issues, and I don’t follow the rest of it.

I still feel the embarrassment of a militant veggie (vegetarian or vegan). We evolved (sorry I am an evolutionist, I have no moral conflicts with science versus faith) to eat hard protein. Hence the recommendations of 3-5 ounces (the deck of playing cards size) three to four times a week. Our brains evolved in such a way we need it to fuel that incredible organ of ours. You can get by without but it takes work (I have to work carefully to keep my diet balanced).

I’m pretty sure she did it on purpose. Hacking is a convenient ‘excuse’ to get out of the backlash. She accomplished what she wanted to, and is ducking having the mud being flung sticking to her. I hope the backlash dumps on her. What she did is abhorrent. A natural disaster is not for someone’s petty jibes and sense of self righteousness.

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Startruck August 30, 2016 at 12:59 pm

Awful. Just awful. Incredibly insensitive on her part.

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stacey August 30, 2016 at 2:47 pm

The statement really says more about her than anyone else. The use of bacon is enough to unleash karma. If that’s the case, every Dennys, IHOP, Cracker Barrel, fast,food place and most houses would have fallen flat Kong years ago.

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LadyV August 30, 2016 at 4:02 pm

Wow.So this idiot is concerned about the health and well-being of pigs, but doesn’t care that hundreds of people – including children – were killed or injured? There’s a special circle in Hell – and not the etiquette one – for people like her. And I do not for one second believe the whole “hacking” thing – she didn’t expect the kind of backlash I’m sure she received, and now is trying to play dumb and innocent.

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Dawn August 30, 2016 at 4:43 pm

Doesn’t anyone ever think before they speak anymore?

-Dawn

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BagLady August 30, 2016 at 6:17 pm

Dear Daniela,

I’m suing you for slander.

Right after I finish this BLT.

Signed,
Karma

P.S. If everybody hates you because of your idiotic, insensitive post, then I claim full responsibility for that. But I am not in the habit of killing innocent people because their hometown invented bacon sauce.

P.P.S. There were no hackers. Grow the heck up.

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NostalgicGal August 31, 2016 at 1:14 pm

[LIKE] <<<<< (made my own like button)

I just love this. Thank you.

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InTheEther August 31, 2016 at 3:07 am

Celebrities are idiots anyway and you should never listen to them. It has nothing to do with IQ or anything. They’re just surrounded solely by those riding the gravy train. Personal assistants, chuffers, basically any employee is going to agree with everything they say because otherwise they’re out of a job. Producers, directors, interviewers, whoever are going to keep them happy because if they throw a snit fit and walk off the project then that is a valuable commodity just gone.

That little voice that goes “Wait, am I saying/doing something that makes me look/sound like a complete imbecile?” dies at a certain point. D list celebrities like the above are not immune from this either since it seems that the barely celebrities are pretty quick to collect what posse they can to prove that they’ve made it.

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Just4Kicks August 31, 2016 at 7:06 am

I get that celebrities are human and make mistakes, we all do, but knowing you’re in the public eye you need to have an extra filter.
I CANNOT wait to hear the “explanation” from Chris Brown ( the rapper in the news today ) as to why he did what he did….should be very interesting, to say the least.

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Ludwig August 31, 2016 at 9:42 am

@Dee: lettuce bikinis? Seriously? Must be a sight to see, especially during summer when the lettuce leaves wither rather more quickly… 🙂

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Gabriele August 31, 2016 at 12:07 pm

I wonder what sort of karma will be inflicted on her for her pre-vegan eating?

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Ashley August 31, 2016 at 1:45 pm

If karma exists, somehow I wouldn’t think it works like that.

I don’t think it was a hacker. She would have gotten a notification of a password change or attempted password change if someone had tried to change the password. If they just hacked straight in and left, she would have gotten all the notifications regarding the original tweet and thought “Hey I didn’t send that”. Then she CERTAINLY would have gotten all the notifications from the second tweet.

Basically, there’s NO WAY she wouldn’t have noticed if she had gotten hacked.

If you want to be vegan, fine. But please do not be one of the militant vegans like this woman.

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Jade August 31, 2016 at 7:06 pm

A classic case of foot in mouth disease, I’m sure when she posted it she thought she was very clever, but now that the backlash has begun she’s taking absolutely no responsibility for her own thoughtlessness . I bet she’s revelling in the increased notoriety though because I’m sure I’m not the only one who had never heard of this woman until five minutes ago. Well she’s on everyone’s radar now. Whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing remains to be seen

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