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Push Me , Pull You

I’ve been reading your site for several days now, browsing through the archives, and I LOVE your site. One thing I seem to be picking up on in gift giving is that most of your readers don’t like to give gift cards for presents, reasons being that they’re too impersonal.

But with my birthday coming up soon, I just have to ask. Is it ok to ask for gift cards, if that’s what I really want? DH and I live in a tiny apartment with very little room for “extras”, and neither one of us can stand too much clutter. I love to read and listen to music, so a couple years ago hubby bought me an iPod, and then last year I received a nook. This has been really great for us, because I was able to download my music collection to my computer and I’m trying to build up my collection of e-books, so I can get rid of more of my physical books. Since them ,whenever someone asks what to buy me for an occasion, I ask for gift cards to either iTunes or Barnes and Noble.

My family is perfectly ok with giving me gift cards, as they understand my reasons for wanting them, and they know my crazy passion for books and music. My MIL is being difficult, though, as she has always thought gift cards were tacky gifts and showed a lack of thought for the recipient. DH and I have tried to explain to her why I’m asking for them, and she’s seen firsthand how small our apartment is.

My dilemma comes from the fact that MIL always wants us to tell her what to buy for us for birthdays or Christmas. I’m not into clothes or jewelry, and my only hobbies are reading or listening to music, so I can’t really thing of anything else to ask for. She keeps asking me to tell her what to get me for my birthday next month besides a gift card, but I’d feel really guilty asking for something that I know I wouldn’t use.

Should I continue to tell her that a gift card is something that I really want and would use, or should I try to come up with something else to tell her? Please help! Thanks! 0226-12

 

Information about what one prefers to receive as a gift should be “pull” information, not “push”.   By that I mean that under no circumstances should any take the initiative to tell others what it is they want to be given as gifts.   However, if the giver takes the initiative to ask, i.e. “pulling the information” from you, it is perfectly fine to suggest a suitable gift.  As long as your friends and family are asking you for your gift preferences, replying to them that you’d prefer gift cards to buy ebooks won’t land you in Etiquette Hell.

The Charity Birthday Party

A few years ago my Mother-in-law read an article in a national magazine that suggested children request donations for charity instead of gifts at birthday parties. MIL thought this was a wonderful idea and proceeded to press the issue with me, suggesting that I do this for my children’s parties. She says that kids these days get too much stuff.

My two youngest children (5 and 8) have birthdays just a few weeks apart. Every year we plan a modest party for each where they can invite a few friends (usually five or six), play some games, have some treats, and celebrate. Each year I nod and smile at her suggestion and then we do our own thing. This year she is very insistent, sending emails and articles about teaching kids to be community minded and generous. Just this week she brought it up in front of my future sister-in-law after she asked about the kids birthday’s this year. I’d had enough. I told MIL that  I thought it was a terrible idea and that we would not be doing it this year, or ever.

Now I feel an ogre for shutting down the charity idea. I mean, who doesn’t want to give to charity? But I have so many problems with this.

1)      We have birthday parties to celebrate the occasion with friends. If they choose to bring gifts, that is a nice gesture on their part. I don’t want to ask them to bring anything, and certainly not to bring money to a charity of our choosing. They may not even support this hypothetical charity.

2)      How much does one give at a “charity party” (that term even squicks me out). You can buy a nice, simple gift for under $5.00. I don’t like knowing what someone is giving, and I don’t like putting them in the position of having to give more than they can afford because they feel they should.

3)       There are plenty of opportunities to teach our children about generosity. They take part in food bank drives, donate gently used clothes, books and toys, and buy toys for the toy drive at Christmas. And giving does not always involve money. We can be generous with our time. Both my husband and I volunteer in the community and the kids see this and sometimes take part. Birthday parties don’t need to be part of this learning experience.

4)      Finally, our kids don’t get a lot of stuff. We are not the kind of parents who spend unnecessarily. New toys are restricted to special occasions. I don’t think it’s a bad thing for the kids to get a few new toys and treats from their friends at birthdays. They certainly enjoy picking out gifts to give their friends. It’s a two way thing.

Still, a part of me feels like a gimmie pig for saying no. Is there something in the big book of etiquette that says parties should not be used for charity?   1107-11

There are parties hosted all the time that are used for charity.  They are called fundraisers.   There is nothing inherently wrong with hosting a party in which the main objective is to raise funds for one’s favorite charity.   MIL’s problem is that she is insistent on hijacking her grandchildren’s birthday parties in order to have a different theme than one would expect from a birthday celebration. It is commendable to teach children to be generous and charitable but MIL had her chance to raise her children to have the values she wanted to instill in them and if she made a mistake, do-overs with the grandkids are not appropriate.

If MIL is that concerned for the moral character development of her grandkids,  MIL should be setting the example for them by doing charitable work and community service and taking them along with her to learn it firsthand and by observation.

The Inequitable Distribution of Money Gifts

I write to you asking for some advice on how to handle an unusual family situation involving favouritism, and gifts of money.

My immediate family lived until recently in a city far removed from our extended family. We have since fragmented even further as my brothers and I (there are three of us, all in our twenties) have moved out, but we still flock to our childhood home as each year ends. Each Christmas we receive cheques and a card from Grandpa, all collected together in one envelope. Grandpa is a retired business owner with a lot of money to his name, so the cheques are substantial. Some years ago we noticed that we each received significantly different amounts. This might not be notable if this was based on age or somesuch, but it isn’t; after a few years that would be quite obvious. Rather, the difference is based on how much Grandpa likes the recipient. My older brother, for example, is having some problems with his life, and has had difficulty finding direction and applying himself to studies or a career. Grandpa doesn’t approve. He makes no secret of his opinion of each of us individually, often commenting on how well my younger brother in particular is doing (entirely fair, he is doing very well), while not mentioning another. In normal conversation this might pass without note; we don’t discuss our favourite athlete and then pause to give honourable mention to the others in the competition. However, Grandpa is effusive in his praise of my younger brother, “What a great guy,” he says. But when met with similar praise of my older brother he balks. “Oh yes,” he says, “All your children are great.”

In previous years the amount of money has appeared to follow whatever the trends of Grandpa’s comments are leading up to Christmas. This year we found that my younger brother and I received the same amount. Great, we’re happy with that. What we’re not happy with is that the amount is three times what my older brother got. Why is this? One explanation could be our individual needs. I have a wife and child (with another on the way) so perhaps the case could be made that I need the money. My younger brother has little income and is starting a company, so maybe he needs support too. My older brother has no job, is looking after his fiancée, and is reliant on his disability pension. There the reasoning unravels. The one with the most needs get the least. Although maybe it’s entirely the reason after all, since my younger brother and I could be called successful. He finished university with honours and is starting in business, and I’m studying while supporting a family, and own a home. Our older brother’s successes can be measured only in how he is managing his mental health, not in dollar amounts or qualifications. Rewarding people for personal success is fine, but is a matter entirely apart from Christmas, and should be secondary to ensuring one’s family is as healthy as possible.

Other examples of Grandpa’s attitude towards his grandchildren can be found in the difference between his gifts to my cousin and to me for our respective weddings. My cousin received a large sum of money as an engagement present, then another as a wedding gift. I received nothing for my engagement, and nothing for my wedding. My cousin and I are the same age. What is the difference, then?

What I want to know is how to tackle this problem. My mother left Grandpa messages, and wrote him a letter in order to get her feelings across but there was nary a peep from him on the issue. She now refuses to discuss us with him in any more detail than “they’re fine.” He occasionally tries to start a conversation on how poorly my older brother is doing (often in a roundabout way), or how well my younger brother and I are doing with a pointed omission, but my mother refuses to be drawn in.

Do I follow her lead and confront him on the issue? Maybe just mail the cheque back? Bank it anyway? The money would be helpful, especially around Christmas, but that’s too much like tacit approval of his contempt for my older brother.

I detest confrontation, but family needs to be respected. What should I do?  0111-12

Money is a great tool but it certainly can be used to complicate  relationships.  My first thought is that a person’s money is theirs to do with as they wish and if they choose to gift it to another, they are well within their rights to do so with no real obligation to explain to anyone how they spend their money.   The basic rule of money is that one does not talk about it….not how much you gave, not how much you have, not how much you were given, etc.   Grandpa breaks down this veil of discretion by placing all three checks for three siblings in the same envelope making it impossible to ignore how much he gives and virtually impossible for each recipient to be discreet about the amount they have received.

Your mother has appealed to her father to cease with the favoritism and has been ignored so I don’t see where you would have any greater powers of persuasion.   You have two solutions available to you.   Return the check uncashed or simply “lose it” so that it never gets cashed.  There is honor in not being a knowing pawn in Grandpa’s favoritism games.  The other alternative is to conspire with your younger brother to donate an equal share of your money gift to your older brother so that all three of you end up with the exact same amount of money.   If you and your younger brother each received $4,000.00 but older brother only $1,000.00,  each give the older brother $1,000.00 so that the net result is that all three brothers have received the exact same amount of $3,000.00.    If the relationship between the three siblings is worth having, money shouldn’t be a wedge that drives people farther apart.   And Grandpa does not need to know any of this since once a gift leaves his hands, it is yours to do with as you wish.

As for the matter of disparity in wedding gifts, I’m at a loss to figure out how anyone would know who got what and who didn’t get.   I don’t have a clue as to how my parents or inlaws may have gifted various grandchildren who married, including my own daughter.   Unless Grandpa is making it quite public how he chooses to give money gifts for weddings, it really is no one else’s business how much money was received and from whom.   In other words, your cousin should have no idea that you received nothing from Grandpa and on the flip side, how did you find out how much your cousin received?  If Grandpa is the blabbermouth, it reflects poorly on him as being a crass, indiscreet, manipulative old codger who tries to play one grandchild against another using money as the wedge.   The secret to happiness is to be completely free of the expectation of receiving other’s money so that when the inevitable disparity comes, one is not devastated with disappointment.   Gird yourself now because if Grandpa leaves a Will with money for grandchildren, you can definitely expect there to be quite an inequitable distribution of the estate.

Family Banking Gone Bad

First, your site has helped me so much.  I was raised by a family who loves to step on toes and delights in being nasty to others.  My grandma, rest her beautiful soul, was my one example of etiquette and grace, and she gave me my first Emily Post when I entered high school.  Now that she’s gone, the stories on your site remind me to think of others and to leave an example of grace to anyone who may be watching.

Here’s my story.  About a year ago I began saving for a car.  After a few months of discipline, I had about $3,000 saved up.  My stepdad advised me that I should leave some money in his safe so I had cash in case some severe bank-closing catastrophe left me without money.  I thought about it, and decided to leave $800 in the safe.  I definitely didn’t have a safe place in my apartment where I could stash that much money.  I told him I keep my money there until I bought a car.

My mom started charging me $25 a month for my part of the family cell phone bill per my stepdad’s request several months later.  I didn’t mind paying the money, but it bothered me when she added that she knew $25 was more than my share, but I wasn’t going to find a plan that cheap anywhere else.  I paid $150 in two installments in advance so I wouldn’t have to worry about it for 6 months.

Fast forward to this month, when I moved to the next state with my boyfriend after I lost my job.  I intended to get our new house settled, buy a car with some money I had saved up and the money from the safe, and get a job.  We moved and made plans with my mom to get the money.  I came to my mom’s house on the day and time we agreed upon, but she told me the money was in my stepdad’s savings account now (which really defeats the purpose of having your money in a safe).  She promised to send me a check for several weeks.  Nothing came.  She planned a visit to my house last week.  I reminded her about a half dozen times in the day prior to and the day of her visit, “Please remember to bring a check or cash.  I really need my money.”  She promised she would.

Right before she left my house, she went to dig the check from her purse.  Surprise, no check.  I begged her to mail it when she got home.  She promised she would.

Then she dropped off the face of the earth for 3 days.  Didn’t return my calls, texts, e-mail.  Finally she called me and told me they didn’t have the money.  I forgot to pay my cell phone portion.  So my stepdad took my money and put all of it toward the phone bill.  My mom was incredibly sorry, but she didn’t even have the money to fix what had been done by my stepdad (although she had the money to go across the country on vacation for a week with my little sisters and my stepdad last month).

I was wrong to be late, I know that.  We had just moved, my mom or my stepdad never mentioned it and I completely forgot.  It’s not like other obligations, where you get a notification.  And if he had taken $25 from my money, I wouldn’t have blinked; it would have been convenient.  But $800 isn’t $25.  Even if he had used the money to pay my portion of the cell phone bill until the contract runs out, he would have only spent $450.  But he insists he is justified.  My mom has hurt me financially before, but this one is the one that makes me want to keep my distance for good. I’m heartbroken that my stepdad would do this and that my mom lied to me, and I really needed that money.  Is there any polite way to go about getting my money back?  Or was I wrong to leave cash in someone else’s possession?

You need to reconcile within yourself that you will never see that $800.00 again.  It’s an expensive life lesson that you cannot trust certain family members with anything of value.  I think you can still have a civil relationship with your mom and stepdad but if the subject of money ever comes up, you simply ignore the topic and decline to entertain any thoughts of transferring wealth from you to either of them.   One can smile pleasantly and talk about mundane things with family while inwardly thinking, “No way in Ehell you’ll ever get a cent of my money.”

If in your shoes, I’d be inclined to document the money transfers starting with the $800.00 “deposit” on the specified date followed by each month’s “bill” for phone service and then communicate this statement, in writing, to your parents with a note that says, “Just so we’re all on the same page, this is my understanding of what occurred in regards to my $800.00 I left with stepdad and my payments of my share of the cell phone service.  It appear from my records, that I am completely paid up through the end of the cell phone contract and I am due $350.00 upon termination of that contract.”

Don’t expect you’ll get a civil answer or see a cent of that money, however.

I’m sure there will be comments on this post encouraging you to file a police report or sue your parents.  People making those kind of suggestions have probably never actually done what they are suggesting you do because if they had, they’d know what a huge pain in the rump it is to pursue legal action and how much money it really costs.   Mentally write off the parents as your personal bank and move on.

Cue The Horror Violins…A Horrifying Discovery

Since spring has decided to come along, I decided to do some spring cleaning at the family home and unfortunately received a terrible surprise. While going through some boxes I found a bundle of thank you notes, and not just any extra blank thank you notes. I found the thank you notes that I had hand written for my graduation cards and presents. I am a freshman in my spring quarter of college so these notes are just a few months shy of a year old and of course, I am quite embarrassed.

The only way I can think this happened is that when I left the bundle on the kitchen table (my mum told me she would get the stamps and send them off), they were swept into the box when the table was cleaned off for dinner. With the chaos of a large family, the box ended up sitting on the floor and no one thought anything about it. Now my mum is not the most organized person and with two younger children to take care of, I do not blame her for forgetting.

Now I am left with this stack of notes, feeling terrible. Some very distant relatives that I had never even met sent money and gifts for my graduations and now they must think I am a spoiled brat. Not to mention how I must look to all the closer relatives who I saw over the holidays. I can’t believe no one asked or made a comment.

So what in the world do I do? Is the damage done or is it a “better late than never” situation? Do I send an explanation for the tardiness? Please may I have some guidance?  0326-11

If we put this to a vote, I’d wager that 90% plus of readers of EHell would advise simply sending off the notes posthaste with no explanation.   Then relatives’ opinions of you are merely relegated to thinking you were an industrious first year college student.   If anyone comments about the tardiness of the notes, then you can explain in such a way that does not place blame on your mom since ultimately you, being an adult, were responsible for your actions to make sure the notes were stamped and placed in the mail.