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General Etiquette => Etiquette of the Rich and Famous => Topic started by: DCGirl on August 19, 2011, 07:31:42 AM

Title: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: DCGirl on August 19, 2011, 07:31:42 AM
Because of space restrictions at the venue where she's holding her wedding, it's being reported that Kim Kardashian has cut 50 previously invited guests, including members of her stepfather's family.  Also, no one is allowed to bring a date now. 

Um... shouldn't you be clear on how many guests your venue will hold before you send out the invitations?

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/kim_gives_guests_the_boot_xfMrzfqk8vSABJw3IPXADO
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Wonderflonium on August 19, 2011, 07:42:11 AM
*headdesk*

If you've got all this money to spend on a wedding, you should have enough to pay someone to check out this stuff for you!

I can't help but wonder if it fit her original guest list, but then she kept adding people she just HAD to have (like Justin Bieber? really?) and it got out of control.

Anyway you slice it, this is a horrible move on her part. *sigh* Always klassy, those Kardashians.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Winterlight on August 19, 2011, 08:16:04 AM
Charming. About what I'd expect from them, though.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on August 19, 2011, 08:29:24 AM
*headdesk*

If you've got all this money to spend on a wedding, you should have enough to pay someone to check out this stuff for you!

I can't help but wonder if it fit her original guest list, but then she kept adding people she just HAD to have (like Justin Bieber? really?) and it got out of control.

Anyway you slice it, this is a horrible move on her part. *sigh* Always klassy, those Kardashians.

Well he'd crash it anyway, might as well give him an actual invite!
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Hushabye on August 19, 2011, 08:31:52 AM
*headdesk*

If you've got all this money to spend on a wedding, you should have enough to pay someone to check out this stuff for you!

I can't help but wonder if it fit her original guest list, but then she kept adding people she just HAD to have (like Justin Bieber? really?) and it got out of control.

Anyway you slice it, this is a horrible move on her part. *sigh* Always klassy, those Kardashians.

Well he'd crash it anyway, might as well give him an actual invite!

But as long as they're playing his music, it's not rude.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Fleur-de-Lis on August 19, 2011, 09:34:56 AM
Charming. About what I'd expect from them, though.

Exactly. I can't profess to be too distraught, because any dismay would be predicated on an unmet belief/expectation that either was generally imbued with basic awareness of courtesy, much less etiquette. As far as I'm concerned, they're trash. Rich, famous trash, bit still trash.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: WillyNilly on August 19, 2011, 09:45:37 AM
I'm wondering if maybe she was counting on a certain number of declines and when they didn't come, she had to cut?  I mean it seems like such poor planning... and you know this was planned by a seasoned professional.

Its sad because one of the reasons, other then her beauty of course, that Kim and the rest of the Kardashians became celebrity darlings was because they were more down to earth and "normal" even though they were rich.  They had jobs, their mom carpooled, they had to clean their own rooms, etc.  But now they are just vapid and helpless and spoiled, with no real sense of what the average world outside of their celebrity bubble is like.

Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Fleur-de-Lis on August 19, 2011, 11:51:58 AM
I'm wondering if maybe she was counting on a certain number of declines and when they didn't come, she had to cut?  I mean it seems like such poor planning... and you know this was planned by a seasoned professional.

Its sad because one of the reasons, other then her beauty of course, that Kim and the rest of the Kardashians became celebrity darlings was because they were more down to earth and "normal" even though they were rich.  They had jobs, their mom carpooled, they had to clean their own rooms, etc.  But now they are just vapid and helpless and spoiled, with no real sense of what the average world outside of their celebrity bubble is like.


Really? 

I don't generally watch television; the only times I have seen the Cardassians (intentional) is when their reality television show is airing at the salon where I get my nails done. 

I confess, my expectations and preconceptions are pretty based on that.  To me, a having a reality television show puts one on a par with Paris Hilton.  If nothing else, there's no where to go but up.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Master_Edward on August 19, 2011, 01:21:21 PM
The Kardashians are more "normal" and "down to earth"? Really, on which planet is that? >:D

I have to say I agree with Winterlight it's pretty much the behavior I'd expect from them. I couldn't care less about Kim Kardashian's wedding and I wish the media would stop talking about it. I'll be glad when it's over.

Ed.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: rose red on August 19, 2011, 01:40:29 PM
The Kardashians are more "normal" and "down to earth"? Really, on which planet is that? >:D

I have to say I agree with Winterlight it's pretty much the behavior I'd expect from them. I couldn't care less about Kim Kardashian's wedding and I wish the media would stop talking about it. I'll be glad when it's over.

Ed.

Preach it, Ed. 

I can't stand the Kardashians.  The media act like the whole world is so fascinated by them, but nope, it's just the media who are.  Stop trying to force them down our throats.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Red1979 on August 19, 2011, 01:50:08 PM
I have to say that this behavior is exactly what I'd expect from someone who's "celebrity" all stems from a sex tape.  She and her family are incredibly trashy and I'm going to wager that disinviting 50 guests is not going to be the only faux pas that's coming out of this wedding.

I also think I heard somewhere that there is a "strict" dress code where guests have to wear white or black.  I'm guessing the strict means your not allowed in if you show up in a different color.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: WillyNilly on August 19, 2011, 02:41:35 PM
I'm wondering if maybe she was counting on a certain number of declines and when they didn't come, she had to cut?  I mean it seems like such poor planning... and you know this was planned by a seasoned professional.

Its sad because one of the reasons, other then her beauty of course, that Kim and the rest of the Kardashians became celebrity darlings was because they were more down to earth and "normal" even though they were rich.  They had jobs, their mom carpooled, they had to clean their own rooms, etc.  But now they are just vapid and helpless and spoiled, with no real sense of what the average world outside of their celebrity bubble is like.


Really? 

I don't generally watch television; the only times I have seen the Cardassians (intentional) is when their reality television show is airing at the salon where I get my nails done. 

I confess, my expectations and preconceptions are pretty based on that.  To me, a having a reality television show puts one on a par with Paris Hilton.  If nothing else, there's no where to go but up.

Please note the keyword "became" in my post.  25 years ago no one knew the name "Kardashian", outside of rich folks who needed a lawyer in LA. They were rich, but they were not celebrity.  The family name became somewhat celebrity after the OJ trial (the dad, now deceased was one of OJ's lawyers).  But the mom still had to work - she had a clothing store, and they did have normal - if rich - lives, that included carpooling with mom (not a hired driver) and cleaning their own rooms.  When Kim was first married at 18 she had not trust fund or anything, she had to start her own business (clothing consultant and closet organizer) to support herself as her parents decided "old enough to be married, old enough to make your own money." 

They have all since moved on to modelling (with mom as the manager) and reality TV as a means of income, but certainly even when their show started the other two sisters were working full time in the mom's clothing boutique.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: TinyVulgarUnicorn on August 19, 2011, 02:42:15 PM
I've never watched the show, but I did watch the upcoming vacation episode television ad and apparently Kim's fiance asks one of the other sisters if her marriage was for real or for television.  This coupled with uninviting 50 people tells me that they're not exactly the most polite people. 
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: jimithing on August 19, 2011, 03:10:06 PM
I'm wondering if maybe she was counting on a certain number of declines and when they didn't come, she had to cut?  I mean it seems like such poor planning... and you know this was planned by a seasoned professional.

Its sad because one of the reasons, other then her beauty of course, that Kim and the rest of the Kardashians became celebrity darlings was because they were more down to earth and "normal" even though they were rich.  They had jobs, their mom carpooled, they had to clean their own rooms, etc.  But now they are just vapid and helpless and spoiled, with no real sense of what the average world outside of their celebrity bubble is like.


Really? 

I don't generally watch television; the only times I have seen the Cardassians (intentional) is when their reality television show is airing at the salon where I get my nails done. 

I confess, my expectations and preconceptions are pretty based on that.  To me, a having a reality television show puts one on a par with Paris Hilton.  If nothing else, there's no where to go but up.

Please note the keyword "became" in my post.  25 years ago no one knew the name "Kardashian", outside of rich folks who needed a lawyer in LA. They were rich, but they were not celebrity.  The family name became somewhat celebrity after the OJ trial (the dad, now deceased was one of OJ's lawyers).  But the mom still had to work - she had a clothing store, and they did have normal - if rich - lives, that included carpooling with mom (not a hired driver) and cleaning their own rooms.  When Kim was first married at 18 she had not trust fund or anything, she had to start her own business (clothing consultant and closet organizer) to support herself as her parents decided "old enough to be married, old enough to make your own money." 

They have all since moved on to modelling (with mom as the manager) and reality TV as a means of income, but certainly even when their show started the other two sisters were working full time in the mom's clothing boutique.

Funny you mention this, because on the latest episode, it's all about how Kris isn't as a good as a mom to the younger kids as she was to the older girls. Carpooling was even brought up, because their dad, Bruce Jenner basically does all those duties, while all she does is work and supports her older children.

I like trashy Reality TV and their show definitely qualifies.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: WillyNilly on August 19, 2011, 03:31:02 PM
^ that's actually why i brought up that particular detail  ;D

But I do remember when Kim was *just* starting to become famous.  She had been friends with the likes of Paris Hilton and other more widely known [at the time] folks for years, but she was totally unheard of.

But then because she is so strikingly beautiful, she started getting more and more attention, and became a celebrity in her own right and not named as her self instead of just as "Paris Hilton and friend".
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Master_Edward on August 19, 2011, 04:29:17 PM
OK so I'll agree with you on that, Kim Kardashian is beautiful--on the outside anyway. On the inside, not so much. I can't think of too many other people besides the Kardashians that I wouldn't want to be stranded on a desert island with. Or anywhere for that matter. I don't understand their appeal and I never will.

Ed.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Wonderflonium on August 19, 2011, 07:34:17 PM
^ that's actually why i brought up that particular detail  ;D

But I do remember when Kim was *just* starting to become famous.  She had been friends with the likes of Paris Hilton and other more widely known [at the time] folks for years, but she was totally unheard of.

But then because she is so strikingly beautiful, she started getting more and more attention, and became a celebrity in her own right and not named as her self instead of just as "Paris Hilton and friend".

Well, there was also her little adventure with Ray J.. ::)
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: MaggieB on August 19, 2011, 11:35:12 PM
I like trashy Reality TV and their show definitely qualifies.

Me too!  I was watching The Soup earlier and wondering how horrified I should be that I've already seen a lot of those clips this week.  (Don't judge me, I'm job hunting!)  :P

The wedding is at a private residence, so I can see how it might not have occurred to anyone that there would be that kind of space restriction.  Especially if they haven't hosted an event on this scale before (plus a large camera crew.)  I'm not saying she gets a pass.  Uninviting 50 guests is pretty bad.  But I can see how it happened.  The dress code could also be considered tacky, but I've seen other weddings on the show where the guests all wore black and white (like Pastor Brad's earlier this season.)  So maybe that's fairly normal for their circle? 

I'm wondering who is going to watch a four hour wedding special in a month and a half. (Except me  :-[)
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: kglory on August 19, 2011, 11:55:55 PM
I'm wondering if maybe she was counting on a certain number of declines and when they didn't come, she had to cut?  I mean it seems like such poor planning... and you know this was planned by a seasoned professional.

Its sad because one of the reasons, other then her beauty of course, that Kim and the rest of the Kardashians became celebrity darlings was because they were more down to earth and "normal" even though they were rich.  They had jobs, their mom carpooled, they had to clean their own rooms, etc.  But now they are just vapid and helpless and spoiled, with no real sense of what the average world outside of their celebrity bubble is like.


Really? 

I don't generally watch television; the only times I have seen the Cardassians (intentional) is when their reality television show is airing at the salon where I get my nails done. 

I confess, my expectations and preconceptions are pretty based on that.  To me, a having a reality television show puts one on a par with Paris Hilton.  If nothing else, there's no where to go but up.

I'll bite -- what is meant by the deliberate misspelling of her last name?

I'm no Kim Kardashian fan.  But are you making fun of the fact that her name begins with K?  I also have a K name and it's nothing to be ashamed of.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Baxter on August 20, 2011, 01:09:52 AM
I'm wondering if maybe she was counting on a certain number of declines and when they didn't come, she had to cut?  I mean it seems like such poor planning... and you know this was planned by a seasoned professional.

Its sad because one of the reasons, other then her beauty of course, that Kim and the rest of the Kardashians became celebrity darlings was because they were more down to earth and "normal" even though they were rich.  They had jobs, their mom carpooled, they had to clean their own rooms, etc.  But now they are just vapid and helpless and spoiled, with no real sense of what the average world outside of their celebrity bubble is like.


Really? 

I don't generally watch television; the only times I have seen the Cardassians (intentional) is when their reality television show is airing at the salon where I get my nails done. 

I confess, my expectations and preconceptions are pretty based on that.  To me, a having a reality television show puts one on a par with Paris Hilton.  If nothing else, there's no where to go but up.

I'll bite -- what is meant by the deliberate misspelling of her last name?

I'm no Kim Kardashian fan.  But are you making fun of the fact that her name begins with K?  I also have a K name and it's nothing to be ashamed of.

I'm not the OP who wrote the Cardassian comment, but my assumption is that they are a Star Trek fan.  In Star Trek  the Cardassians are a stupid & irritating race of extra-terrestrials. 

Blue Falcon I like the word play, most appropriate  :D
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: kglory on August 20, 2011, 02:52:27 AM
I'm wondering if maybe she was counting on a certain number of declines and when they didn't come, she had to cut?  I mean it seems like such poor planning... and you know this was planned by a seasoned professional.

Its sad because one of the reasons, other then her beauty of course, that Kim and the rest of the Kardashians became celebrity darlings was because they were more down to earth and "normal" even though they were rich.  They had jobs, their mom carpooled, they had to clean their own rooms, etc.  But now they are just vapid and helpless and spoiled, with no real sense of what the average world outside of their celebrity bubble is like.


Really? 

I don't generally watch television; the only times I have seen the Cardassians (intentional) is when their reality television show is airing at the salon where I get my nails done. 

I confess, my expectations and preconceptions are pretty based on that.  To me, a having a reality television show puts one on a par with Paris Hilton.  If nothing else, there's no where to go but up.

I'll bite -- what is meant by the deliberate misspelling of her last name?

I'm no Kim Kardashian fan.  But are you making fun of the fact that her name begins with K?  I also have a K name and it's nothing to be ashamed of.

I'm not the OP who wrote the Cardassian comment, but my assumption is that they are a Star Trek fan.  In Star Trek  the Cardassians are a stupid & irritating race of extra-terrestrials. 

Blue Falcon I like the word play, most appropriate  :D

Ah - got it!  Not a Star Trek fan so I didn't get the reference.   Thanks, Marjorie.  Now it seems clever.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: jimithing on August 20, 2011, 11:51:55 AM
I'm wondering if maybe she was counting on a certain number of declines and when they didn't come, she had to cut?  I mean it seems like such poor planning... and you know this was planned by a seasoned professional.

Its sad because one of the reasons, other then her beauty of course, that Kim and the rest of the Kardashians became celebrity darlings was because they were more down to earth and "normal" even though they were rich.  They had jobs, their mom carpooled, they had to clean their own rooms, etc.  But now they are just vapid and helpless and spoiled, with no real sense of what the average world outside of their celebrity bubble is like.


Really? 

I don't generally watch television; the only times I have seen the Cardassians (intentional) is when their reality television show is airing at the salon where I get my nails done. 

I confess, my expectations and preconceptions are pretty based on that.  To me, a having a reality television show puts one on a par with Paris Hilton.  If nothing else, there's no where to go but up.

I'll bite -- what is meant by the deliberate misspelling of her last name?

I'm no Kim Kardashian fan.  But are you making fun of the fact that her name begins with K?  I also have a K name and it's nothing to be ashamed of.

Joel McHale of The Soup, calls them the "Carrdaaaasians", when he refers to them. He says it in a way that sounds sort of snooty. Obviously, he's probably making fun of them.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Wonderflonium on August 20, 2011, 12:33:18 PM
I assumed it was to get another word for "donkey" in there, as Kim is rather famous for her posterior.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: DuBois on August 20, 2011, 01:16:00 PM

I know that it's a faux pas. I'm not excusing it. But, I do have a soft spot for Kim K. I think that Kardashian girls all come across as rather fun. When you compare them to the vile Kelly Osborne, or the even viler Peaches Geldof (seriously, I am ashamed to be British when I look at those two)  they are really not so bad.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Just Lori on August 20, 2011, 03:56:23 PM
Hmm.  They had to disinvite a number of people, but she was able to extend a last-minute invitation to Ellen:

http://www.eonline.com/news/marc_malkin/ellen_degeneres_snags_last-minute/259189

Kim puts the K in Klassy...

Who am I kidding?  The whole family is genius.  They've managed to take their quirks and make them into a multimillion-dollar empire.  We TV viewers love our train wrecks, and the Kardashians don't disappoint.

Last night I was watching "The Soup."  They showed a clip of Kris H throwing Kim into the water on their vacation.  She thought it was funny until she realized she lost her $75,000 earring.  That's when she stomped off in a fit.  They cut to Kris wondering out loud how the next 12 days were going to go.  Um, he does realize he's marrying her for more than 12 days, right?
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: djinnidjream on August 22, 2011, 02:13:50 PM
Considering that this is her second marriage, and it looks like her sisters and mother all wore white, somehow, I don't think etiquette tops her list of necessities....
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Wonderflonium on August 22, 2011, 02:15:20 PM
Considering that this is her second marriage, and it looks like her sisters and mother all wore white, somehow, I don't think etiquette tops her list of necessities....

I'm not sure what either of those things is supposed to have to do with etiquette. People are allowed to marry multiple times, and I believe many guests wore white at the behest of the bride (who requested white or black, which is its own etiquette nightmare).
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: StressedGroom on August 22, 2011, 02:55:23 PM
I've got mixed feelings on this.  There had to be a wedding coordinator/planner on a wedding of this size/price and I would put the blame on them, the venue size and guest list are the most important things.

On the other hand if it was a production issue (cameras and crew took up too much space) then I would put the blame on her for putting the money making side over the guests and the ceremony.

Here is the real question, does this actually fall under wedding etiquette or performance?  Is this any different from a concert where they have to refund some tickets when the stage ends up requiring moving a section of seating?  This wasn't really close friends and family coming to watch them profess their love, it was more of a performance with celebrity "guests"
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: djinnidjream on August 23, 2011, 05:34:39 AM
Considering that this is her second marriage, and it looks like her sisters and mother all wore white, somehow, I don't think etiquette tops her list of necessities....

I'm not sure what either of those things is supposed to have to do with etiquette. People are allowed to marry multiple times, and I believe many guests wore white at the behest of the bride (who requested white or black, which is its own etiquette nightmare).

I didn't know about the dress code- but to have a BWW for a second marriage is a little etiquette challenged.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Larrabee on August 23, 2011, 05:57:53 AM
Considering that this is her second marriage, and it looks like her sisters and mother all wore white, somehow, I don't think etiquette tops her list of necessities....

I'm not sure what either of those things is supposed to have to do with etiquette. People are allowed to marry multiple times, and I believe many guests wore white at the behest of the bride (who requested white or black, which is its own etiquette nightmare).

I didn't know about the dress code- but to have a BWW for a second marriage is a little etiquette challenged.

You're confusing taste and etiquette.

It might not be to some people's taste, but its not rude.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: djinnidjream on August 23, 2011, 06:42:02 AM
I was always under the impression that you get one BWW- for your FIRST marriage.  To me- to have this kind of second wedding is rude (maybe that's me, and my opinion, but it's how I feel).  If it is not considered rude to have a big gift grabby wedding for a second marriage, then I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Wonderflonium on August 23, 2011, 06:43:31 AM
I've got mixed feelings on this.  There had to be a wedding coordinator/planner on a wedding of this size/price and I would put the blame on them, the venue size and guest list are the most important things.

On the other hand if it was a production issue (cameras and crew took up too much space) then I would put the blame on her for putting the money making side over the guests and the ceremony.

Here is the real question, does this actually fall under wedding etiquette or performance?  Is this any different from a concert where they have to refund some tickets when the stage ends up requiring moving a section of seating?  This wasn't really close friends and family coming to watch them profess their love, it was more of a performance with celebrity "guests"

What makes me sad is that actual family (or step-family) was booted to make room for celebrity guests.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: StressedGroom on August 23, 2011, 08:21:16 AM
I've got mixed feelings on this.  There had to be a wedding coordinator/planner on a wedding of this size/price and I would put the blame on them, the venue size and guest list are the most important things.

On the other hand if it was a production issue (cameras and crew took up too much space) then I would put the blame on her for putting the money making side over the guests and the ceremony.

Here is the real question, does this actually fall under wedding etiquette or performance?  Is this any different from a concert where they have to refund some tickets when the stage ends up requiring moving a section of seating?  This wasn't really close friends and family coming to watch them profess their love, it was more of a performance with celebrity "guests"

What makes me sad is that actual family (or step-family) was booted to make room for celebrity guests.

That is what makes me lean towards the second the third items, those were people who wouldn't hurt the status of the event by not being there.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Winterlight on August 23, 2011, 08:35:28 AM
I've got mixed feelings on this.  There had to be a wedding coordinator/planner on a wedding of this size/price and I would put the blame on them, the venue size and guest list are the most important things.

On the other hand if it was a production issue (cameras and crew took up too much space) then I would put the blame on her for putting the money making side over the guests and the ceremony.

Here is the real question, does this actually fall under wedding etiquette or performance?  Is this any different from a concert where they have to refund some tickets when the stage ends up requiring moving a section of seating?  This wasn't really close friends and family coming to watch them profess their love, it was more of a performance with celebrity "guests"

According to my morning paper guests were complaining about nearly being flattened by camera crews, so I'm guessing it was the second one.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: MaggieB on August 23, 2011, 08:57:56 AM
Well, it's the groom's first wedding.  And Kim eloped the first time around, so it's not like she's soaking her guests for presents a second time.  So I don't really find them having a BWW tacky in and of itself.  There are tacky elements to this wedding for sure, but I don't mind that they had a big wedding.

The family wedding vs. TV performance question is interesting.  I have no idea what her contracts with E are like, but I doubt cutting down on cameras/crews was an option.  Also, I'm wondering how accurate the reports are that she had to actually uninvite people.  I've heard a few reports of people receiving last minute invitations. (Which is its own thread, I know.)  So I don't know what's true.  It'll be interesting to see the Kardashians address these things in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: rose red on August 23, 2011, 01:29:22 PM
I was always under the impression that you get one BWW- for your FIRST marriage.  To me- to have this kind of second wedding is rude (maybe that's me, and my opinion, but it's how I feel).  If it is not considered rude to have a big gift grabby wedding for a second marriage, then I stand corrected.

What if it's the first marriage for one of them?  I'm sure that person and their family would like to experience the BWW too.

edited to make a sentense less weird.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: lollylegs on August 24, 2011, 07:33:14 AM
I was always under the impression that you get one BWW- for your FIRST marriage.  To me- to have this kind of second wedding is rude (maybe that's me, and my opinion, but it's how I feel).  If it is not considered rude to have a big gift grabby wedding for a second marriage, then I stand corrected.

I think the BWW is fine in and of itself - people can get married however they want, if they can afford it. But gift grabiness seems, to me, tackier when it's the second time around.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: LaciGirl007 on August 25, 2011, 06:22:18 AM
I've got mixed feelings on this.  There had to be a wedding coordinator/planner on a wedding of this size/price and I would put the blame on them, the venue size and guest list are the most important things.

On the other hand if it was a production issue (cameras and crew took up too much space) then I would put the blame on her for putting the money making side over the guests and the ceremony.

Here is the real question, does this actually fall under wedding etiquette or performance?  Is this any different from a concert where they have to refund some tickets when the stage ends up requiring moving a section of seating?  This wasn't really close friends and family coming to watch them profess their love, it was more of a performance with celebrity "guests"
I am shocked, shocked at the suggestion that this wedding was "for television" and not "for real."  My goodness, doesn't EVERY wedding sell the photo rights to one publication, and the video rights to another?  Doesn't EVERY wedding have such an embargo on images that the poor, information-hungry public must turn to the website where the bride has, for a price, agreed to have her sex video posted?  Doesn't EVERY wedding involve a $20,000 custom-made wedding gown which the bride got for free in exchange for the publicity?  Doesn't EVERY wedding instruct the extras -- oops, I mean the "guests" -- to wear only black and white so that they'll create an appropriate visual backdrop?

I could go on, but I feel a little ill now....
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: LaciGirl007 on August 25, 2011, 06:25:13 AM
I was always under the impression that you get one BWW- for your FIRST marriage.  To me- to have this kind of second wedding is rude (maybe that's me, and my opinion, but it's how I feel).  If it is not considered rude to have a big gift grabby wedding for a second marriage, then I stand corrected.
I think the "are the Kardashians rude?" ship has sailed.

Long, long ago.

There are far too many examples to do justice to them here, but I'll focus on just two: putting your (general you, haha) sex tape online for money -- there's a very OLD word for that! -- and allowing yourself to be filmed relieving yourself on TV (on your -- again, general you! -- reality show).
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: MyFamily on August 25, 2011, 01:58:06 PM
I was always under the impression that you get one BWW- for your FIRST marriage.  To me- to have this kind of second wedding is rude (maybe that's me, and my opinion, but it's how I feel).  If it is not considered rude to have a big gift grabby wedding for a second marriage, then I stand corrected.
I think the "are the Kardashians rude?" ship has sailed.

Long, long ago.

There are far too many examples to do justice to them here, but I'll focus on just two: putting your (general you, haha) sex tape online for money -- there's a very OLD word for that! -- and allowing yourself to be filmed relieving yourself on TV (on your -- again, general you! -- reality show).

eeewwwwww!!!!!  gross.  I don't own a tv and therefore have never watched them and don't really know who is who I just know they are all family and they think very highly of themselves, but that is just nasty, nasty, nasty.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: tiggnduff on August 29, 2011, 01:04:28 PM
I think that the speculation re: for tv or not real is stemming from the fact that they actually MADE millions of dollars on this wedding. A large number of items (ie her 3 dresses, cake, photography etc were comped for publicity by the vendors as reported by a very reputable entertainment show).  Between selling the wedding photos to the highest bidder, the tv rights for the tv special and other items it's been reported that they made in the neighbourhood of 15 to 17 million dollars by getting married???

Wow did I get married the wrong way lol (sarcasm)
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Rivaini on August 29, 2011, 01:16:15 PM
I was always under the impression that you get one BWW- for your FIRST marriage.  To me- to have this kind of second wedding is rude (maybe that's me, and my opinion, but it's how I feel).  If it is not considered rude to have a big gift grabby wedding for a second marriage, then I stand corrected.

I think the BWW is fine in and of itself - people can get married however they want, if they can afford it. But gift grabiness seems, to me, tackier when it's the second time around.



Why is a BWW automatically "gift grabby"?

We had a relatively expensive wedding and reception, but it had nothing to do with the expectation of gifts.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: lollylegs on August 29, 2011, 07:16:26 PM
I was always under the impression that you get one BWW- for your FIRST marriage.  To me- to have this kind of second wedding is rude (maybe that's me, and my opinion, but it's how I feel).  If it is not considered rude to have a big gift grabby wedding for a second marriage, then I stand corrected.

I think the BWW is fine in and of itself - people can get married however they want, if they can afford it. But gift grabiness seems, to me, tackier when it's the second time around.



Why is a BWW automatically "gift grabby"?

We had a relatively expensive wedding and reception, but it had nothing to do with the expectation of gifts.

I don't think that a BWW is gift grabby and I'm sorry if my post made it sound that way. Personally, I don't care if you have a BWW for your second, third or tenth wedding. But if it's your second, third or tenth and you're having a bridal shower, putting registry information in the invitation or making a gazillion dollars filming it, well that annoys me more than it would for a first wedding. That's what I meant.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Twik on August 30, 2011, 09:40:56 AM
I think any wedding where the HC mentions that they *made* money is tacky. It's bad enough if it's just gifts. Selling media rights indicates that you have gone sailing up Tacky River, and don't mean to ever come back.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Sharnita on August 30, 2011, 06:01:43 PM
I think any wedding where the HC mentions that they *made* money is tacky. It's bad enough if it's just gifts. Selling media rights indicates that you have gone sailing up Tacky River, and don't mean to ever come back.

I don't know - if I were a guest and media right shad been sold I might want to know ahead of time in order to avoid being part of the event.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Rivaini on August 30, 2011, 06:25:47 PM
I was always under the impression that you get one BWW- for your FIRST marriage.  To me- to have this kind of second wedding is rude (maybe that's me, and my opinion, but it's how I feel).  If it is not considered rude to have a big gift grabby wedding for a second marriage, then I stand corrected.

I think the BWW is fine in and of itself - people can get married however they want, if they can afford it. But gift grabiness seems, to me, tackier when it's the second time around.



Why is a BWW automatically "gift grabby"?

We had a relatively expensive wedding and reception, but it had nothing to do with the expectation of gifts.

I don't think that a BWW is gift grabby and I'm sorry if my post made it sound that way. Personally, I don't care if you have a BWW for your second, third or tenth wedding. But if it's your second, third or tenth and you're having a bridal shower, putting registry information in the invitation or making a gazillion dollars filming it, well that annoys me more than it would for a first wedding. That's what I meant.


Fair enough!  :)
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: lkb on September 02, 2011, 07:55:48 PM
A bit off topic but why are we supposed to care about the Kardashians? I understand they are somehow related to Bruce Jenner but is that why they came to prominence? (One of the tabloids called Kim Kardashian's wedding the "Wedding of the Year". Oh yeah? And that Will-and-Kate thing a few months ago...?)

I'm not a Trekkie but occasionally I'll watch some of the many incarnations of Star Trek. In one of them (Deep Space Nine(?)), the main villians are these lizard-creatures called Kardassians. So whenever I hear about this generation's version of the Gabor sisters I always chuckle and think of lizard people. >:D
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Wonderflonium on September 02, 2011, 08:42:50 PM
The father of the older 3 girls (Kim, Khloe, and Kourtney) was one of OJ Simpson's lawyers. Kim was raised with people like Paris Hilton. She rose to prominence when a $ex tape that she made with Ray J (little brother of Brandy, the singer) was released. People took note of her assets and the fact that she was lovely and connected, and a reality star was born.  ::)

And now I'm off to cry because I know all that.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Twik on September 05, 2011, 09:01:26 AM
I gather we care, because we are told we are to care about her. She is one of the legion of people we are told are famous, because they're famous. Sort of like a snake swallowing its tail.

Basically, it's easire for the infotainment industry to focus on people who have shills who spend their days spoonfeeding info back to the industry, than to actually go out and find interesting people to discuss.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Winterlight on September 05, 2011, 03:40:32 PM
At least the Gabor sisters could act, and Eva and Zsa Zsa both had real careers that didn't involve sex tapes.  ::)
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Just Lori on September 05, 2011, 04:05:59 PM
Why do people care about Edward and Bella?  Why do they care about Stephanie Plum?  Here at Ehell, we've had multiple pages devoted to "American Idol" and comic strip characters.  Sometimes people like to escape.  Sometimes they like to be amused.  There are plenty of outlets on TV for thought-provoking programs, starting with public television and working up to the history and science channels.  The Kardashians are on an entertainment TV channel.  They're not trying to be thought-provoking or ground moving.

FWIW, I don't watch the show.  But I don't think watching the show and having a brain are mutually exclusive, either.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: djinnidjream on October 31, 2011, 02:05:20 PM
Filing for divorce after 2 months. 

I'm flabbergasted.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Twik on October 31, 2011, 02:15:19 PM
Oh, my.

Think of the possibilities for new shows.

Kim and Kris Go to the Lawyers

Kim's Big Day in Court

Kardashians in Kounselling

Special!!!!! Kim's First Date after Divorce

A Valentine Special from Kim and Her New Love

Special!!!!! Kim's Engaged

A Kardashian Wedding of the Century.....
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Wonderflonium on October 31, 2011, 02:16:46 PM
Kardashians in Kounselling

I almost choked on my gum.  ;D
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: lollylegs on October 31, 2011, 06:30:14 PM
Oh, my.

Think of the possibilities for new shows.

Kim and Kris Go to the Lawyers

Kim's Big Day in Court

Kardashians in Kounselling

Special!!!!! Kim's First Date after Divorce

A Valentine Special from Kim and Her New Love

Special!!!!! Kim's Engaged

A Kardashian Wedding of the Century.....

Like!
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: lcmamom on October 31, 2011, 09:18:55 PM
Will they have to return the gifts?  What does E-Hell say?
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: doreen_s on October 31, 2011, 11:28:38 PM
"The Kardashian family asks that you respect Kim's privacy during this difficult time and wait until they finish editing the divorce special."
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: Baxter on November 01, 2011, 12:20:46 AM
"The Kardashian family asks that you respect Kim's privacy during this difficult time and wait until they finish editing the divorce special."

Oh, thats good.
Title: Re: Kim Kardashian disinvites 50 wedding guests
Post by: sparksals on November 01, 2011, 12:21:14 AM
Apparently Kris was blindsided by all this.  What kind of person does lets her husband find out about the divorce from TMZ?  ??? ???   Despicable.