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General Etiquette => Etiquette of the Rich and Famous => Topic started by: Wonderflonium on September 06, 2011, 01:01:30 PM

Title: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Wonderflonium on September 06, 2011, 01:01:30 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2034262/Madonna-impressed-floral-gift-fan-I-absolutely-loathe-hydrangeas.html

Madonna was doing a press conference. Before the conference but after the mics were turned on, a fan gave her a hydrangea. She responded by thanking the person, putting the flower under the table, and said to the person beside her, "I absolutely loathe hydrangeas. He obviously doesn't know that."  ::)

First of all, when will people learn that whenever you are near a microphone, ASSUME IT IS ON. Seriously!

Second, some are saying that she was simply making a comment to the person beside her and not slamming the gift (which, let's face it, still isn't particularly polite when the person is right there and the mic is on). Personally, I don't buy it and think she was incredibly rude, but I figured I'd ask y'all. If she was just saying it as a comment to the person beside her and thought the giver couldn't hear her, was she rude?
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: JoieGirl7 on September 06, 2011, 01:13:10 PM
I've always thought Madonna lacked class.  This just seems like one more example.

She's just so wrapped up in herself!
 
How is anyone supposed to know that she "looooaaathes" hydrangeas?  And it was just a cut bloom.  It's not like she has to keep it forever or even for a day.
 
No class, that woman.  :P
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: PeasNCues on September 06, 2011, 01:15:17 PM
I think if you don't like a gift, that should only be discussed in private to a trusted confidant and certainly not at the venue where it was recieved with others who could overhear. Microphone or not, I doubt she was out of earshot of most people.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Winterlight on September 06, 2011, 02:47:47 PM
I have gotten gifts I hate. The only person who knows is my mom, after the event is over with and we're alone. Madonna was rude.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: blue2000 on September 06, 2011, 03:10:33 PM
I think if you don't like a gift, that should only be discussed in private to a trusted confidant and certainly not at the venue where it was recieved with others who could overhear. Microphone or not, I doubt she was out of earshot of most people.

ITA. That kind of thing should be saved for conversations at home, not in public.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Twik on September 06, 2011, 03:12:54 PM
But she's a STAR! Therefore, her likes and dislikes should be part of the modern school curriculum. THere's just no excuse for not knowing how she feels about hydrangeas.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: rose red on September 06, 2011, 03:15:17 PM
I love hydrangeas and that deep purple bloom was adorable. 

She couldn't hold her remark until later in private?  But then, she was never one to keep her opinions to herself or care what other people think or feel.  ::)
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: JoieGirl7 on September 06, 2011, 03:26:22 PM
I love hydrangeas and that deep purple bloom was adorable. 

She couldn't hold her remark until later in private?  But then, she was never one to keep her opinions to herself or care what other people think or feel.  ::)

I also love hydrangeas.  They are my favorite bloom and bush.

I am offended by her comment on behalf of hydrangeas!   ;)
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Redneck Gravy on September 06, 2011, 03:32:30 PM
Madonna was the first person I ever seriously considered that might eat her young.

She is quite clueless and classless.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: TeamBhakta on September 06, 2011, 03:57:35 PM
Oh, Madonna. Pretty ironic considering she wrote a children's book about being nice to other people  ::) Her fake British accent still makes me snicker
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: BabylonSister on September 06, 2011, 05:23:57 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2034262/Madonna-impressed-floral-gift-fan-I-absolutely-loathe-hydrangeas.html

Madonna was doing a press conference. Before the conference but after the mics were turned on, a fan gave her a hydrangea. She responded by thanking the person, putting the flower under the table, and said to the person beside her, "I absolutely loathe hydrangeas. He obviously doesn't know that."  ::)

First of all, when will people learn that whenever you are near a microphone, ASSUME IT IS ON. Seriously!

Second, some are saying that she was simply making a comment to the person beside her and not slamming the gift (which, let's face it, still isn't particularly polite when the person is right there and the mic is on). Personally, I don't buy it and think she was incredibly rude, but I figured I'd ask y'all. If she was just saying it as a comment to the person beside her and thought the giver couldn't hear her, was she rude?

Re: the bolded: I love that! It's brilliant! From now on, I'll use it. "I wasn't calling you ugly, I was just making a comment."
 ::)
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: aventurine on September 06, 2011, 05:38:56 PM
Madonna is like school on Saturday.  No class.  #fatalbert
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: afbluebelle on September 06, 2011, 07:02:17 PM
Oh, Madonna. Pretty ironic considering she wrote a children's book about being nice to other people  ::) Her fake British accent still makes me snicker

No Givebacks!
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Winterlight on September 06, 2011, 07:03:44 PM
Yeah, she's all yours now! >:D
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: SamiHami on September 06, 2011, 07:08:19 PM
Madonna was the first person I ever seriously considered that might eat her young.

She is quite clueless and classless.

That should be the name of her next album/tour.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: C0mputerGeek on September 06, 2011, 08:21:21 PM
I am no fan of Madonna, but...

But she's a STAR! Therefore, her likes and dislikes should be part of the modern school curriculum. THere's just no excuse for not knowing how she feels about hydrangeas.
She may have given an interview of her likes and dislikes. For example, I am not even a fan but I do know that Naomi Campbell does not like to wear purple. In the unlikely event that I were to gift Naomi with an item of clothing, I would make sure it was not purple. While I don't find the expectation reasonable, I could see how Madonna would expect a self-identified fan to be familiar with her likes and dislikes.

Her fake British accent still makes me snicker
I have a habit of picking up other accents when I am surrounded by them en masse. It makes it easier to speak other languages with the proper enunciation, but it is a bear to avoid doing when I am in another English-speaking country. Frankly, if I were ever to move to another country, I don't think I would bother. However, as an American that lives in Ameerica, I want to sound like one when I am speaking English.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Master_Edward on September 06, 2011, 11:40:56 PM
That's pretty much what I'd expect from her, this is Madonna we're talking about after all. I never did like her, for all kinds of reasons. And yes her comments were very rude.

Ed.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Wonderflonium on September 07, 2011, 07:10:57 AM
I am no fan of Madonna, but...

But she's a STAR! Therefore, her likes and dislikes should be part of the modern school curriculum. THere's just no excuse for not knowing how she feels about hydrangeas.
She may have given an interview of her likes and dislikes. For example, I am not even a fan but I do know that Naomi Campbell does not like to wear purple. In the unlikely event that I were to gift Naomi with an item of clothing, I would make sure it was not purple. While I don't find the expectation reasonable, I could see how Madonna would expect a self-identified fan to be familiar with her likes and dislikes.

Really? This surprises me. I've been a devoted fan of Harry Connick, Jr, since I was a teenager. I love his music and his movies. I don't know this kind of information about him.

Even if she did say she didn't like hydrangeas in an interview, are you saying that she's right to expect a fan to have read/seen every interview she's ever given? Because unless she says she loathes hydrangeas all the time, it's a bit unreasonable (and conceited) for her to think people know. I mean, heck, I'm in my 30s, and just this past Easter I found out that my mom hates lillies. I guess it hadn't come up before, but I was really surprised when my dad told me, and let me tell you, I'm a HUGE fan of my mom.

Her fake British accent still makes me snicker
I have a habit of picking up other accents when I am surrounded by them en masse. It makes it easier to speak other languages with the proper enunciation, but it is a bear to avoid doing when I am in another English-speaking country. Frankly, if I were ever to move to another country, I don't think I would bother. However, as an American that lives in Ameerica, I want to sound like one when I am speaking English.

I pick up accents too. It's a little embarrassing. However, Madonna's was an affectation that she started putting on before she even moved overseas.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Everlee on September 07, 2011, 10:07:02 AM
Rude.  No other way around it.  No matter how "big" you are, it's always rude to slam a present in front of the giver. 
I've got several celebrities that I am huge fans of, but I honestly don't really know much about them.  Their work is what I am most interested in, not their private lives.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Miss March on September 07, 2011, 10:14:28 AM
I saw the video clip, and I thought Madonna sounded deferential when she said "He obviously didn't know that," meaning "I certainly don't blame this fan for not knowing how I felt about this flower."

That's how her second remark came across to me.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: jaxsue on September 07, 2011, 01:59:42 PM
I saw the video clip, and I thought Madonna sounded deferential when she said "He obviously didn't know that," meaning "I certainly don't blame this fan for not knowing how I felt about this flower."

That's how her second remark came across to me.

You are far more generous than I am. She has a record of dissing fans. I understand that fame has its drawbacks - fans wanting to talk to you all the time must get old - but there are more gracious ways to deal with it. This was not gracious.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: General Jinjur on September 08, 2011, 03:07:31 AM
Madonna is like school on Saturday.  No class.  #fatalbert

I read this a couple of times, trying to figure out what "fatal Bert" referred to  ::) Durrrrr.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: djinnidjream on September 12, 2011, 12:06:24 PM
I was watching the Graham Norton show when he had Lady Gaga on and one of her fans was in the audience with some really creepy dolls that had some of her more famous outfits on them.  Gage probably loved them because she was weird- but you would never know- she was so gracious and even made the fan come down and give her a hug and kiss because she was so thankful.  That's how you treat a fan.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: TeamBhakta on September 12, 2011, 05:37:01 PM
Really dislike her spoof response video, since it ends with "IT'S A FREE COUNTRY, I'M ALLOWED TO NOT LIKE HYDRANGEAS"  ::)
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: jaxsue on September 13, 2011, 02:11:13 PM
I was watching the Graham Norton show when he had Lady Gaga on and one of her fans was in the audience with some really creepy dolls that had some of her more famous outfits on them.  Gage probably loved them because she was weird- but you would never know- she was so gracious and even made the fan come down and give her a hug and kiss because she was so thankful.  That's how you treat a fan.

GaGa does seem to treat her fans really well. Yes, she can be quite offbeat, but I admire how she treats others.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: TinyVulgarUnicorn on September 13, 2011, 02:16:43 PM
I was watching the Graham Norton show when he had Lady Gaga on and one of her fans was in the audience with some really creepy dolls that had some of her more famous outfits on them.  Gage probably loved them because she was weird- but you would never know- she was so gracious and even made the fan come down and give her a hug and kiss because she was so thankful.  That's how you treat a fan.

Just one more reason why I adore Lady Gaga!

No seriously, I was reading somewhere that Madonna wrote an email to some photographer while filming A League of Their Own.  According to IMDB this is what she said: "I cannot suffer any more than I have in the past month, learning how to play baseball with a bunch of girls (yuk) in Chicago (double yuk). I have a tan, I'm dirty all day, and I hardly ever wear make up. Penny Marshall, Lavern (sic), Geena Davis is a Barbie Doll, and when God decided where the beautiful men were going to live in the world, he did not choose Chicago. I have made a few friends but they are athletes, not actresses. They have nothing on the house of extravaganza. I wish I could come to N.Y."

It pretty much explains how the term Pre-Madonna came to be.   ;D
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: hobish on September 13, 2011, 02:29:06 PM

It just goes to show you can put on all the expensive clothes and sparkly jewelry you want; but money cannot buy class. I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt until i saw that "apology". What a crock.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: C0mputerGeek on September 15, 2011, 02:52:06 PM
Really? This surprises me. I've been a devoted fan of Harry Connick, Jr, since I was a teenager. I love his music and his movies. I don't know this kind of information about him.

My brain retains the strangest things. I know tidbits about Prince because I am a die-hard fan. Other celebrities...for some reason some facts just stick in my brain

Even if she did say she didn't like hydrangeas in an interview, are you saying that she's right to expect a fan to have read/seen every interview she's ever given? Because unless she says she loathes hydrangeas all the time, it's a bit unreasonable (and conceited) for her to think people know.

No, I am saying this is the kind of delusional thing I would think she would expect from her fans.

I have a habit of picking up other accents when I am surrounded by them en masse. It makes it easier to speak other languages with the proper enunciation, but it is a bear to avoid doing when I am in another English-speaking country. Frankly, if I were ever to move to another country, I don't think I would bother. However, as an American that lives in Ameerica, I want to sound like one when I am speaking English.

I pick up accents too. It's a little embarrassing. However, Madonna's was an affectation that she started putting on before she even moved overseas.[/quote]

Interesting. That I did not know.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Captain Hastings on October 30, 2011, 11:20:12 PM
I'm just trying to understand how one comes to loathe a particular kind of flower. What about it inspires such hatred? The shape of the petals? The colors? The leaves? I mean I've got flower preferences like anyone else, but I can't imagine being disgruntled enough about a specific flower to even make an off-hand remark to somebody nearby. Maybe if I was horribly allergic to it.

Especially if I was Madonna, and could go buy a nursery and fill it with whatever the heck I wanted.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Winterlight on October 31, 2011, 09:23:39 AM
I'm just trying to understand how one comes to loathe a particular kind of flower. What about it inspires such hatred? The shape of the petals? The colors? The leaves? I mean I've got flower preferences like anyone else, but I can't imagine being disgruntled enough about a specific flower to even make an off-hand remark to somebody nearby. Maybe if I was horribly allergic to it.

Especially if I was Madonna, and could go buy a nursery and fill it with whatever the heck I wanted.

Maybe it's the scent?
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Wonderflonium on October 31, 2011, 09:37:21 AM
Hydrangeas don't really have much of a scent. I could see hating roses, lilies, gardenias, or even freesia (some smell like Froot Loops and some smell like pepper; there's no way to tell which are which until you take a sniff) because they all have distinctive scents. Hydrangeas, not so much.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on October 31, 2011, 02:27:09 PM
There are a LOT of things I love and remember bout Johnny Depp cause he's just my favorite, but if someone were to ask me what cologne he wears or his favorite wine or plant, I honestly couldn't tell you!! 

I used to love Madonna when I was a kid but I could really care less about her now.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: Kendo_Bunny on November 01, 2011, 04:12:19 PM
I'm just trying to understand how one comes to loathe a particular kind of flower. What about it inspires such hatred? The shape of the petals? The colors? The leaves? I mean I've got flower preferences like anyone else, but I can't imagine being disgruntled enough about a specific flower to even make an off-hand remark to somebody nearby. Maybe if I was horribly allergic to it.

If, hypothetically, I was a very famous person, and even more hypothetically a fan gave me a bouquet of lavender, I would have to refuse it. I'm extremely allergic to lavender, and as such, can't stand to be around it. But if it were just a flower I didn't care for particularly, then I'd just take the darn thing with a smile and a thank you. That's what composting heaps are for, and even if I were Madonna, I'd be surprised if the paparazzi were digging through my compost.

Her "apology" was really what cinched this as rude. No one cares that she doesn't like hydrangeas, and no one is demanding why she doesn't like such a beautiful flower. It could be any number of reasons, and unless her mother was killed by a hydrangea bush, there's no reason anyone outside her immediate circle would be expected to know this. She just doesn't seem to get that it's not that she doesn't like a particular type of flower, but that she was so incredibly ungracious about a gift from a fan. This is a guy who has presumably already put a lot of money into her pocket (buying her albums, going to her concerts, seeing her films), and then he tries to give her a token of his esteem as well, only for her to immediately bad mouth it.
Title: Re: Madonna Disses a Gift Into a Live Mic
Post by: glacio on November 01, 2011, 10:52:10 PM
I'm just trying to understand how one comes to loathe a particular kind of flower. What about it inspires such hatred? The shape of the petals? The colors? The leaves? I mean I've got flower preferences like anyone else, but I can't imagine being disgruntled enough about a specific flower to even make an off-hand remark to somebody nearby. Maybe if I was horribly allergic to it.

I fell in a thorn bush when I was 5 years old. I have had a hatred (or maybe more of a phobia) of roses ever since, although over the past few years I've been able to hold them for short periods of time so I've gotten a bit better.

That said, I would only hold it against someone that I had known for awhile. My boyfriend was informed really quickly that he would not get the reaction he wanted if he ever brought me roses.