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Title: 26 December
Post by: oz diva on December 18, 2011, 05:54:25 PM
What do you usually do on 26th December, do you go back to work or is it a holiday. It might be different this year with Christmas being on a Sunday?

In Australia, Monday is a public holiday because Sunday is not a work day. 26 December is usually the Boxing Day holiday, so Tuesday is a holiday in lieu of that.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Sharnita on December 18, 2011, 06:23:35 PM
I'm a teacher so we are off between the 25th and New Year.  A lot of people I know work.  I know a couple of people who work for the post office who are usually off but they work an extra long day the 24th.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Venus193 on December 18, 2011, 06:28:25 PM
Most US businesses are closed on the 26th.  Some even will be closed for that entire week.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: kckgirl on December 18, 2011, 06:31:04 PM
I am a government employee. This year, since the actual holiday is on Sunday, Monday is the holiday and government offices will be closed. Since Christmas is usually a holiday for businesses, I assume that a lot of businesses will be closed as well on Monday. Most retail businesses only close for Christmas day on whatever day of the week it happens, and will reopen the next morning, as usual.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Larrabee on December 18, 2011, 06:32:12 PM
I think its the same in Aus as the UK. 

The 25th and 26th are usually bank holidays here too but as the 25th falls on a Sunday the 26th and the 27th are Bank Holidays here instead too.

Boxing Day is usually a day for visiting family you didn't get to see on Christmas Day.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: kareng57 on December 18, 2011, 06:36:00 PM
December 26 (Boxing Day) is a stat holiday in some provinces in Canada, but not all.  Where I am, it's not a stat holiday but the majority of people in administrative-type jobs do get it off with pay - so many that it's often thought that that's indeed a stat holiday.  However, most people who have to work it - retail, restaurant, hospital/police/emergency services - don't get time-and-a-half as they would for a real statutory holiday.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: oz diva on December 18, 2011, 06:51:56 PM
Oh and I forgot, I don't go, but there is ALWAYS a cricket match at the Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) on Boxing Day. The first day of the 2nd cricket test - it lasts 5 days. This year, we're playing New Zealand (I think).
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Bethczar on December 18, 2011, 08:46:26 PM
Most US businesses are closed on the 26th.  Some even will be closed for that entire week.

I'd have to disagree with that. I only know of one business that is regularly closed the day after Christmas, and none that close during that week. Many people take time off during that week, so staff may be reduced, but businesses are usually open.

This year, because of Christmas being on a Sunday, I have off Dec 26 (& Jan 2, which is great because I can watch the Rose Bowl)
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Bluenomi on December 18, 2011, 09:29:48 PM
Oh and I forgot, I don't go, but there is ALWAYS a cricket match at the Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) on Boxing Day. The first day of the 2nd cricket test - it lasts 5 days. This year, we're playing New Zealand (I think).

Don't forget the Sydney to Hobart! Boxing Day just isn't right without cricket and the yatch race. Not that I watch either but the men folk seem to like it.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Judah on December 18, 2011, 09:34:17 PM
My employer is closed the week between Christmas and New Year (this year it extends to Jan. 2). 
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: KenveeB on December 18, 2011, 09:41:24 PM
Where I'm at (Dallas, Texas), some places will close the day after Christmas or even the whole week, but I think that's the exception rather than the rule.  My office doesn't give the day after Christmas off, although we get Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. (My brother only gets the 25th, not the 24th.)  Since Christmas is a Sunday this year, we get Friday and Monday off.  If I'm able, I always take the day after Christmas off just to have an extra day to relax and recuperate.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: oz diva on December 18, 2011, 09:58:05 PM
Oh and I forgot, I don't go, but there is ALWAYS a cricket match at the Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) on Boxing Day. The first day of the 2nd cricket test - it lasts 5 days. This year, we're playing New Zealand (I think).

Don't forget the Sydney to Hobart! Boxing Day just isn't right without cricket and the yatch race. Not that I watch either but the men folk seem to like it.

Oh yes, the start is beautiful, too. All the spinnakers out.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: camlan on December 18, 2011, 10:55:56 PM
In the US, the official holiday is Sunday, Dec. 25. The Federal government is giving government employees Monday, Dec. 26 off as the Christmas holiday. However, non-government employers do not have to do that.

Most retail establishments will be open on Dec. 26, as will a lot of restaurants. Most of the people working office or desk jobs will likely have Dec. 26th off, as many employers follow the Federal holiday schedule. There is no Boxing Day holiday here.

While lots of places do close down or go to skeleton crews for the week between Christmas and New Years, just as many do not. I have some not-so-fond memories of one job where I worked until 5 pm Christmas Eve, drove three hours to my family's house, and spent less than 24 hours there so that I could drive three hours back Christmas night, as I had to be at work at 8 am on Dec. 26. It was a) a state government job and b) at a university which was pretty much closed down for the week, but my boss insisted that someone be there at all times, and as the newest hire, the privilege fell to me for three years on a row. Then I got a new job.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: JonGirl on December 19, 2011, 05:34:32 AM
Oh and I forgot, I don't go, but there is ALWAYS a cricket match at the Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) on Boxing Day. The first day of the 2nd cricket test - it lasts 5 days. This year, we're playing New Zealand (I think).

India or Sri Lanka most likely. I know it's someone from the Subcontinent.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Ereine on December 19, 2011, 07:20:41 AM
We don't get extra time off in Finland if a holiday happens to fall on Saturday or Sunday but December 26 is a public holiday (and the only day off I have this Christmas without using my vacation days). It's called tapaninpäivä or St. Stephen's day and traditionally people would ride in their sleighs to visit their relatives. I think that visiting is still common, though without the sleighs. Shops will ve closed and the next day the big sales start.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Thipu1 on December 19, 2011, 09:15:24 AM
This year, because Christmas falls on a Sunday, many offices will be closed on the 26th.  If Christmas fell on a Saturday, they'd be closed on the 24th. 

When Christmas falls during the week, the 25th is the only day many offices are closed.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Rohanna on December 19, 2011, 09:48:34 AM
Boxing Day is a holiday in Ontario for pretty much everyone except the poor retail workers, for whom it's a shopping day of terribleness akin to American Black Friday sales (usually minus the trampling and pepper spraying, we are Canadian after all :P).
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Yarnie on December 19, 2011, 10:00:01 AM
This year, I get the 23rd AND the 26th off.   I'm not sure why, other than the big wigs decided to be nice to us. :)  In every salaried job I've been at, if a regular holiday falls on a weekend, we get a week day off.

To make things even more confusing, if a holiday falls on a Tuesday or a Thursday, I've had work places give the Monday or Friday off, just to make a nice four day weekend. 

My husband is one of the lucky ones - his workplace just closes between Christmas and New Years, and everyone still gets paid. 
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: camlan on December 19, 2011, 10:08:00 AM


To make things even more confusing, if a holiday falls on a Tuesday or a Thursday, I've had work places give the Monday or Friday off, just to make a nice four day weekend. 


I had one job that did that--everyone got the Friday after Thanksgiving off, for example. One of the managers told me that they decided it was easier to give everyone the day off than to spend hours and hours figuring out who could take vacation that day, as lots of people would want the 4 day weekend, but the office still had to be adequately staffed if it was open. Apparently, no one was ever happy with the results of who got to take what days off around holidays and closing the office was eventually the best solution.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Betelnut on December 19, 2011, 10:35:47 AM
Librarian here--we, being in the States, would never normally get off "Boxing Day" since that's not a holiday here but since Christmas is on a Sunday, I do have off the 26th.  At my work we also get off Christmas Eve, so I have off the 23rd this year too (Christmas Eve is on a Saturday).
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: mechtilde on December 19, 2011, 10:45:50 AM
I work in a museum where we are only closed on Christmas Day, Boxing Day (the 26th) and 1 January.

I'll be working on the 24th.

Traditionally Boxing Day is the day when the servants and tradesmen were given their presents- their Christmas Boxes. The gentry would go out to hunt, and you can still see the traditional "meets" if you know where to go. There are also Boxing Day football matches.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Layla Miller on December 19, 2011, 10:46:48 AM
I get the entire week between Christmas and New Year's off, plus the following Monday.  But I work at a college, so that's basically a school break.

I'll still take it, though!  :D
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Giggity on December 19, 2011, 10:47:33 AM
We get the weekday closest to Christmas off, so my office is closed Monday. Ordinarily, though, December 26 would be just another work day. A very quiet one, mind you! That's prime "get all that old filing done" time.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: tjika on December 19, 2011, 01:27:39 PM
Here (the Netherlands) december 26th is 2nd Christmas day. Its a national holiday. It's usually celebrates identically to christmas day but with different people and slightly lower key.
For example, 25th I will join my immediate family (5 of us) plus SO's at my parents house for a big long fancy dinner (think thanksgiving but no turkey), then the 26th we have dinner with my mothers family ( grandparents, siblings, nieces etc.). Sometimes members of my dad's family will join us, but they usually have different plans and we generally get together dec 31st during the day.

If the 25th and 26th fall in the weekend we're out of luck.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Betelnut on December 19, 2011, 01:31:57 PM
Here (the Netherlands) december 26th is 2nd Christmas day. Its a national holiday. It's usually celebrates identically to christmas day but with different people and slightly lower key.
For example, 25th I will join my immediate family (5 of us) plus SO's at my parents house for a big long fancy dinner (think thanksgiving but no turkey), then the 26th we have dinner with my mothers family ( grandparents, siblings, nieces etc.). Sometimes members of my dad's family will join us, but they usually have different plans and we generally get together dec 31st during the day.

If the 25th and 26th fall in the weekend we're out of luck.

So, even if the 26th is called a "National Holiday", if it was on Sunday, for example, you wouldn't get that Monday off?
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Wench on December 19, 2011, 03:32:35 PM
As I work for local government, we mostly shut down between christmas and new year and I am on holiday from 24th December until 3rd January.

 In the UK if a bank holiday like Christmas or Boxing day falls on a weekend we get a bank holiday on the next available week day.  I think it makes up for the fact that we only have eight bank holidays compared to the rest of Europe which I think averages 10 - 12 bank holidays.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Outdoor Girl on December 19, 2011, 07:57:31 PM
In Australia, Monday is a public holiday because Sunday is not a work day. 26 December is usually the Boxing Day holiday, so Tuesday is a holiday in lieu of that.

Same in Canada.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: nrb80 on December 19, 2011, 08:02:48 PM
I have no days off for Christmas this year, due to the schedule.  Also technically have no vacation (used to be unlimited, now "discretionary"). Trying to get everything done to take off between Christmas and New Years, but we will see.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Ereine on December 19, 2011, 11:45:33 PM
Here (the Netherlands) december 26th is 2nd Christmas day. Its a national holiday. It's usually celebrates identically to christmas day but with different people and slightly lower key.
For example, 25th I will join my immediate family (5 of us) plus SO's at my parents house for a big long fancy dinner (think thanksgiving but no turkey), then the 26th we have dinner with my mothers family ( grandparents, siblings, nieces etc.). Sometimes members of my dad's family will join us, but they usually have different plans and we generally get together dec 31st during the day.

If the 25th and 26th fall in the weekend we're out of luck.

So, even if the 26th is called a "National Holiday", if it was on Sunday, for example, you wouldn't get that Monday off?

In Finland we wouldn't, because the national holiday already happened, on the Sunday. According to Wikipedia we have 13 national holidays, of those two are always Saturdays (you can still benefit from them even if you don't usually work Saturdays as some vacation day systems require a certain number of them to be Saturdays), one is a Sunday (Pentecost) and one a Thursday (Feast of the Ascension) the others may be fall on a weekend (except for Good Friday or Easter Sunday and Monday, obviously). So we get up to 10 public holidays, depending on the year. And people typically get 4 weeks of vacation. 
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Perfect Circle on December 20, 2011, 07:49:53 AM
Four weeks? Really. I thought it was five. I am no doubting you at all, just really surprised. I won't consider a job with less than 29 days leave so not moving back anytime soon.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Ereine on December 20, 2011, 08:02:51 AM
It probably is actually five weeks or even more but I have no personal experience of it (freelancing and temp work isn't good for vacations) so I didn't think of checking it.
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Perfect Circle on December 20, 2011, 08:42:56 AM
It probably is actually five weeks or even more but I have no personal experience of it (freelancing and temp work isn't good for vacations) so I didn't think of checking it.

It's been a while since I last worked in Finland, so I don't really know. But Google says it's 2.5 days for every month which makes it 30 days once you've been in with the same employer for a year. It's two days before that.

I guess Finns often still take a long summer holiday and a shorter winter one, I know my parents do that.

Going back to the Boxing/St Stephens day thing, it's a bank holiday for me, but my husband doesn't automatically get bank holidays off and will be at work. I'm taking the three working days off next week so I have a nice long break coming up. Can't come soon enough!
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: tjika on December 20, 2011, 12:09:59 PM
Here (the Netherlands) december 26th is 2nd Christmas day. Its a national holiday. It's usually celebrates identically to christmas day but with different people and slightly lower key.
For example, 25th I will join my immediate family (5 of us) plus SO's at my parents house for a big long fancy dinner (think thanksgiving but no turkey), then the 26th we have dinner with my mothers family ( grandparents, siblings, nieces etc.). Sometimes members of my dad's family will join us, but they usually have different plans and we generally get together dec 31st during the day.

If the 25th and 26th fall in the weekend we're out of luck.


So, even if the 26th is called a "National Holiday", if it was on Sunday, for example, you wouldn't get that Monday off?

Nope. :(
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: Betelnut on December 20, 2011, 12:13:52 PM
Here (the Netherlands) december 26th is 2nd Christmas day. Its a national holiday. It's usually celebrates identically to christmas day but with different people and slightly lower key.
For example, 25th I will join my immediate family (5 of us) plus SO's at my parents house for a big long fancy dinner (think thanksgiving but no turkey), then the 26th we have dinner with my mothers family ( grandparents, siblings, nieces etc.). Sometimes members of my dad's family will join us, but they usually have different plans and we generally get together dec 31st during the day.

If the 25th and 26th fall in the weekend we're out of luck.


So, even if the 26th is called a "National Holiday", if it was on Sunday, for example, you wouldn't get that Monday off?

Nope. :(

Aw!  So not nice!  That's definitely not how it works here!
Title: Re: 26 December
Post by: JoW on December 22, 2011, 10:40:14 PM
I'm in the US, working in manufacturing. 

We would normally get the Christmas Eve and Christmas off, Dec 24 and 25.  This year thats Saturday and Sunday so we get Friday and Monday.  The schools are closed all next week, so many parents are taking vacation that week.  We also have off Dec 30-Jan 1.  Our process don't take well to being broken up like that, so we aren't running much next week.