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Title: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Hollymom1229 on December 22, 2011, 12:47:37 PM
So I'm currently updating my passport with my married name (married 8 years and first time travelling out of country in that time). While going through the process I was reminded of the story my sister told me when she was getting her first one issued a few years back.

My sister called the Department of State hotline for passports with a few questions. The lady (aka SD Lady) on the other end of the line was asking a few clarifying questions. She asked my sister where she had been born and that's when the madness started.

Sister: Puerto Rico
SD Lady: I'm sorry but you were born outside of the U.S.
Sister: No, Puerto Rico is a territory of the U.S.
SD Lady: No, Puerto Rico is its own country, and people born there are Puerto Rican, not U.S. Citizens.
Sister: While they are Puerto Rican, they are also American Citizens, because Puerto Rico is not it's own country, but a U.S. Territory.
SD Lady: That doesn't sound right.
Sister: Look I was born at the military hospital at Roosevelt Roads in Puerto Rico while my dad was stationed there during his time in the Navy.
SD Lady: Oh, you were born at the military hospital, well that's fine then.  You can be born in another country as long as it's at the military hospital.
Sister: *facepalm* I actually have to run to a meeting, I will call back later.

Five minutes later I get a call from my sister relating all of this.  She unfortunately had not gotten the woman's name so she couldn't report her for her woeful lack of knowledge.

Does anyone else have stories of exchanges where your brain just hurt as a result of the discussion.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: QueenofAllThings on December 22, 2011, 12:57:10 PM
Yesterday at the fish market. I was buying cod.

I commented on the mini crab cakes, and the fishmonger says:

FM - "Yeah, I just got mini cod cakes and I'm sending 'em back."
Me - "Why? I LOVE cod cakes!"
FM - "I know - right? They're awful!"
Me - "No, no. I LIKE them."
FM - "And they're more expensive!"
Me - "Wait - what? More expensive than crab cakes?"
FM - "No, of course not".

His partner was cracking up ....
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Reason on December 22, 2011, 01:03:12 PM
I met a young lady in college who asked me where I am from as I have a slight accent. I told her that I am from Russia. Without skipping a beat she immediately asked "Oooh, where is that?"

I know it wasn't particularly polite but I said "Ok, you open the world map, find the biggest thing there, and that's Russia."

Still hurts my brain a little when I think about it.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Dr. F. on December 22, 2011, 01:12:04 PM
So I'm currently updating my passport with my married name (married 8 years and first time travelling out of country in that time). While going through the process I was reminded of the story my sister told me when she was getting her first one issued a few years back.

My sister called the Department of State hotline for passports with a few questions. The lady (aka SD Lady) on the other end of the line was asking a few clarifying questions. She asked my sister where she had been born and that's when the madness started.

Sister: Puerto Rico
SD Lady: I'm sorry but you were born outside of the U.S.
Sister: No, Puerto Rico is a territory of the U.S.
SD Lady: No, Puerto Rico is its own country, and people born there are Puerto Rican, not U.S. Citizens.
Sister: While they are Puerto Rican, they are also American Citizens, because Puerto Rico is not it's own country, but a U.S. Territory.
SD Lady: That doesn't sound right.
Sister: Look I was born at the military hospital at Roosevelt Roads in Puerto Rico while my dad was stationed there during his time in the Navy.
SD Lady: Oh, you were born at the military hospital, well that's fine then.  You can be born in another country as long as it's at the military hospital.
Sister: *facepalm* I actually have to run to a meeting, I will call back later.

Five minutes later I get a call from my sister relating all of this.  She unfortunately had not gotten the woman's name so she couldn't report her for her woeful lack of knowledge.

Does anyone else have stories of exchanges where your brain just hurt as a result of the discussion.

An employee of the *STATE DEPARTMENT* who doesn't know that Puerto Rico is a U.S. Territory? A *STATE DEPARTMENT* employee??!?!?! I'm....flabbergasted. really. That's making my brain hurt at several removes.

I've naturally had the argument with several post office employees about needing international postage when sending something to New Mexico <sigh>, and one really inspired person who spent about an hour arguing with me that there is no Ontario, California, I must mean Ontario CANADA. No, sorry. It's 30 miles east of LA. I had to pull out a map for that one.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Animala on December 22, 2011, 01:31:44 PM
I was also born at a military hospital although in Texas.  I can't even tell you how many people think El Paso isn't in the US, so don't feel too bad. 

My youngest sister has MG and as a result cannot have magnesium at all.  (It intensifies the symptoms which can be deadly particularly for someone already sick enough to be in ICU.)  Also about 20 years ago my other sis was in the hospital and was accidentally given an overdose, but since she wasn't hooked up to anything no one would have known it if the family hadn't been there until it may have been too late.  Since then we have a strict rule of having someone with you in the hospital.

A few years back my youngest sis was in ICU after her latest crisis and was in very bad shape.  The nurse brought in a bag of magnesium in her drip.  We always check meds before they are given and when she told my sis what it was she told the nurse she couldn't have it and why.  The nurse insisted and my mom had to actually step up to step in front of her to stop her!  So not long after the hospitalist came in to find out why my sister was refusing treatment and belligerent.  After my sister explained why, which really she shouldn't have to explain what meds she can and cannot take to the dr, he was extremely apologetic and they switched her to a different nurse.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on December 22, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
A comment from a pet owner many years ago..."Wow, vets sure are expensive! Y'all should lobby for pet insurance!"

There were so many things wrong with that statement, I didn't even know where to start. Pet insurance already existed (it wasn't as common then). Insurance doesn't make the cost magically disappear. But most of all, if you want something to happen, you don't lobby [the government] for it. You start it, as in a business.

All of those thoughts logjammed in my head at once, and I just said, "Mhm."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Fleur-de-Lis on December 22, 2011, 01:41:45 PM
So I'm currently updating my passport with my married name (married 8 years and first time travelling out of country in that time). While going through the process I was reminded of the story my sister told me when she was getting her first one issued a few years back.

My sister called the Department of State hotline for passports with a few questions. The lady (aka SD Lady) on the other end of the line was asking a few clarifying questions. She asked my sister where she had been born and that's when the madness started.

Sister: Puerto Rico
SD Lady: I'm sorry but you were born outside of the U.S.
Sister: No, Puerto Rico is a territory of the U.S.
SD Lady: No, Puerto Rico is its own country, and people born there are Puerto Rican, not U.S. Citizens.
Sister: While they are Puerto Rican, they are also American Citizens, because Puerto Rico is not it's own country, but a U.S. Territory.
SD Lady: That doesn't sound right.
Sister: Look I was born at the military hospital at Roosevelt Roads in Puerto Rico while my dad was stationed there during his time in the Navy.
SD Lady: Oh, you were born at the military hospital, well that's fine then.  You can be born in another country as long as it's at the military hospital.
Sister: *facepalm* I actually have to run to a meeting, I will call back later.

Five minutes later I get a call from my sister relating all of this.  She unfortunately had not gotten the woman's name so she couldn't report her for her woeful lack of knowledge.

Does anyone else have stories of exchanges where your brain just hurt as a result of the discussion.

An employee of the *STATE DEPARTMENT* who doesn't know that Puerto Rico is a U.S. Territory? A *STATE DEPARTMENT* employee??!?!?! I'm....flabbergasted. really. That's making my brain hurt at several removes.


The TSA employee who didn't recognize a military dependent ID left me as flummoxed - and utterly contemptuous of the TSA overall.  Nor have various reports of bullying and inanity made me feel any better about the agency.  Google catheter, breast implant, 6 year old, etc. and you will see what I mean. 

Yes, I recognize those are all statistical anomalies.  They are also appalling, egregious systemic failures.   
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Kimblee on December 22, 2011, 01:50:47 PM
I was also born at a military hospital although in Texas.  I can't even tell you how many people think El Paso isn't in the US, so don't feel too bad. 

My youngest sister has MG and as a result cannot have magnesium at all.  (It intensifies the symptoms which can be deadly particularly for someone already sick enough to be in ICU.)  Also about 20 years ago my other sis was in the hospital and was accidentally given an overdose, but since she wasn't hooked up to anything no one would have known it if the family hadn't been there until it may have been too late.  Since then we have a strict rule of having someone with you in the hospital.

A few years back my youngest sis was in ICU after her latest crisis and was in very bad shape.  The nurse brought in a bag of magnesium in her drip.  We always check meds before they are given and when she told my sis what it was she told the nurse she couldn't have it and why.  The nurse insisted and my mom had to actually step up to step in front of her to stop her!  So not long after the hospitalist came in to find out why my sister was refusing treatment and belligerent.  After my sister explained why, which really she shouldn't have to explain what meds she can and cannot take to the dr, he was extremely apologetic and they switched her to a different nurse.

Your poor sister! That is just awful!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on December 22, 2011, 01:53:44 PM
My pastor was preaching a few weeks ago and said one of the Beatles was Paul Harrison. I don't even like the Beatles, and I knew that was so, so wrong.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: lowspark on December 22, 2011, 01:55:27 PM
I used to work with a woman from Alaska. She was constantly amazed at how many people didn't know that Alaska is a state.

Recently I was with a friend as she was closing out an investment account shortly before moving out of state. There was a question about whether her current representative would be able to help her or not based on which state she would actually be living in at the time the transaction was completed. He at first insisted he was not licensed in the state she was moving to and would therefore have to turn her file over to someone else to handle. On the visit where I was with her, he then said he actually WAS licensed in that state. This guy was rude and flaky on lots of counts so when he said this she was a bit taken aback and asked for proof since he clearly didn't know where he was licensed and where he wasn't. He got all huffy and said, "There are fifty-some-odd states! I can't remember all of them!"

We looked at each other and I mumbled something about how I was under the impression there were exactly fifty states.

We still joke about that!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Miss Misery on December 22, 2011, 02:34:11 PM
I used to work with a woman from Alaska. She was constantly amazed at how many people didn't know that Alaska is a state.

You'd be surprised at how many many don't know New Mexico is a state.   ::)

***

I used to be friends with a gal who could not remember names to save her life. We had this conversation more than once:

Her: "I saw this great movie last night."
Me: "What was the name of it?"
Her: "Uh....I don't remember."
Me: "Well, who was in it?"
Her: "That guy....you know...that guy who was in that movie with that other guy...."
Me: *bangs head against the nearest wall*
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Dr. F. on December 22, 2011, 02:40:41 PM
I was once asked on a flight from LA to Honolulu where one could change money. Um, you're not leaving the States, you know?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on December 22, 2011, 02:42:29 PM
I had to tell the nurse when I was in the hospital that I had to take my thyroid pill on an empty stomach. She really did keep pushing me. Please, nice lady, just go  look it up! I don't expect you to know everything, but trust me when I've taken this med for 3 years!

Then there is the US congresswoman who said she would understand the problems that Arizona is concerned with if it were a border state.................Yes, a US Conresswoman. I don't care what your politics are, just understand the geography to begin with.

"There are fifty-some-odd states! I can't remember all of them!"

We looked at each other and I mumbled something about how I was under the impression there were exactly fifty states.

We still joke about that!

Whoa! 50-some odd? Are you smarter than a 5th grader? I guess not. We learned all the countries in Europe and South America and the US states and capitols, the Australian states and all of the Canadian provences in 5th grade. We missed Africa and Asia, or I was out those days. We should have learned Mexican states, too, but I would be very careful before I said anything.

Yes, my heart and brain hurt.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sirius on December 22, 2011, 03:04:12 PM
Years ago when I worked in a military hospital records section I had to do a bunch of paperwork to get the minimum security clearance necessary for my job.  I did fine until I got to the section about my spouse; Mr. Sirius was born in Britain, but at an Air Force base to parents who are U.S. citizens so he is a U.S. citizen by birth.  The paperwork only had two categories for foreign born spouses - resident aliens and naturalized citizens.  There was nothing in the paperwork about foreign-born U.S. citizens.  I came to a complete halt.  I told my boss why I couldn't finish the paperwork, so she contacted the security people and told them what was happening.  Meanwhile, they're nagging me to finish the paperwork, and I can't, even going so far as to threaten to pull my security clearance so I couldn't do the job I was doing. 

Finally, about two weeks later, my boss informed me that the paperwork had been fixed, and I finished it.  What amazed me was that, with all the people in the military who have had children overseas, no one thought to include a category for family members who are foreign-born U.S. citizens.  Mr. Sirius, who was an active duty military member at the time, told me he ran into the same thing when he had to do the paperwork.   
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on December 22, 2011, 03:46:11 PM
I was also born at a military hospital although in Texas.  I can't even tell you how many people think El Paso isn't in the US, so don't feel too bad. 

My youngest sister has MG and as a result cannot have magnesium at all.  (It intensifies the symptoms which can be deadly particularly for someone already sick enough to be in ICU.)  Also about 20 years ago my other sis was in the hospital and was accidentally given an overdose, but since she wasn't hooked up to anything no one would have known it if the family hadn't been there until it may have been too late.  Since then we have a strict rule of having someone with you in the hospital.

A few years back my youngest sis was in ICU after her latest crisis and was in very bad shape.  The nurse brought in a bag of magnesium in her drip.  We always check meds before they are given and when she told my sis what it was she told the nurse she couldn't have it and why.  The nurse insisted and my mom had to actually step up to step in front of her to stop her!  So not long after the hospitalist came in to find out why my sister was refusing treatment and belligerent.  After my sister explained why, which really she shouldn't have to explain what meds she can and cannot take to the dr, he was extremely apologetic and they switched her to a different nurse.

When DH had his sinus surgery, he told a nurse he was allergic to morphine. I don't remember whether she was about to give him some, or just asking if he had any drug allergies. In any case, she responded with a skeptical look and said, "Are you sure? What happens when you have it?"

"It makes me itch all over. I'm telling you, I'm allergic to it."

She didn't push it after that, but I was annoyed. He said he's allergic to morphine, end of discussion.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on December 22, 2011, 04:24:48 PM
I've run into people that thought Alaska was an island near Hawaii. I get my 2nd graders thinking that - but adults.


I ran into a teacher who thought AD meant After Death. I bit my tongue and did not ask her what happened to the 30 odd years between BC and AD.  (She meant after death of Christ)


Thomas Jefferson wrote the Constitution. That gets you a long lecture on Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, John Jay and the Federalist Papers.


 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Moray on December 22, 2011, 05:13:11 PM
I've run into people that thought Alaska was an island near Hawaii. I get my 2nd graders thinking that - but adults.


I ran into a teacher who thought AD meant After Death. I bit my tongue and did not ask her what happened to the 30 odd years between BC and AD.  (She meant after death of Christ)


Thomas Jefferson wrote the Constitution. That gets you a long lecture on Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, John Jay and the Federalist Papers.

Nah, that was George Washington and Ben Franklin...if you believe the spectacularly dull and impossibly stubborn girl in the AP US History class I took Senior year. She argued with our teacher for a good 5 minutes before he finally got her to can it and let the rest of us get on with learning. Poor Mr. Rasmussen.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on December 22, 2011, 05:14:38 PM
I was by a class taught for adults working to get a GED. The history teacher said that FDR served 4 terms. Excuse me, he was elected 4 times but died in office. Is that 4 terms? I don't know for sure, but it bothered me. Authorities still argue about the 4th term being a term or part of a term.

I walked into a 5th grade math class once. The teacher was saying, "You never, ever, ever divide a large number into a small one!" OK. Maybe this is why we have so much trouble teaching math in middle and high school.

India is a country that looks like an upsidedown triangle - in a geography book. Um, a triangle is a triangle. Orientation is not part of the definition.

The earth was hit by a very large star and that is why the dinosaurs died out. Star = meteor? I think not. From a  science book for kids in the library. I pulled that one with no authority.

I am sensitive to diphenhydramine. It's on my medical records. So I ask the nurse what she is giving me. Tylenol 2. Um, that has diphenhydramine in it so it makes me edgy, not sleepy. OK. Then she brings Benedryl, which is only diphenhydramine. Thank you. I know you are tired and overworked, but I shouldn't have to monitor my medications so much.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Fleur-de-Lis on December 22, 2011, 05:19:26 PM

India is a country that looks like an upsidedown triangle - in a geography book. Um, a triangle is a triangle. Orientation is not part of the definition.


I would give this one a pass. Especially with an isosceles triangle, the shape is more often depicted as oriented with one of the sides as its base, rather than on its point.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on December 22, 2011, 06:08:57 PM

India is a country that looks like an upsidedown triangle - in a geography book. Um, a triangle is a triangle. Orientation is not part of the definition.


I would give this one a pass. Especially with an isosceles triangle, the shape is more often depicted as oriented with one of the sides as its base, rather than on its point.

As a mathematician, no. As a person in society, maybe. As and impressionable kid, no. An isosceles triangle is an isosceles triangle no matter what the orientation. A globe is traditionally north up, but it is still a depiction of our earth if 'upsidedown' to us.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on December 22, 2011, 07:55:25 PM
The TSA confiscated a cupcake because it's apparently a liquid. (http://boingboing.net/2011/12/22/tsa-confiscates-cupcake-calls.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

(Okay, so the frosting is a "gel," apparently, but the owner couldn't just scrape the frosting off and put it in a plastic bag because the total volume of the cupcake was more than 3 ounces.  Really???)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Bijou on December 22, 2011, 08:02:15 PM
I was by a class taught for adults working to get a GED. The history teacher said that FDR served 4 terms. Excuse me, he was elected 4 times but died in office. Is that 4 terms? I don't know for sure, but it bothered me. Authorities still argue about the 4th term being a term or part of a term.

I walked into a 5th grade math class once. The teacher was saying, "You never, ever, ever divide a large number into a small one!" OK. Maybe this is why we have so much trouble teaching math in middle and high school.

India is a country that looks like an upsidedown triangle - in a geography book. Um, a triangle is a triangle. Orientation is not part of the definition.

The earth was hit by a very large star and that is why the dinosaurs died out. Star = meteor? I think not. From a  science book for kids in the library. I pulled that one with no authority.

I am sensitive to diphenhydramine. It's on my medical records. So I ask the nurse what she is giving me. Tylenol 2. Um, that has diphenhydramine in it so it makes me edgy, not sleepy. OK. Then she brings Benedryl, which is only diphenhydramine. Thank you. I know you are tired and overworked, but I shouldn't have to monitor my medications so much.
Then how would you know what percentage 44 is of 1500? 
Actually, I was going to bring this up in this thread as something that not only makes my brain hurt, but makes the brain of the person trying to explain to me why this works, to hurt even more.  While I accept that it does work, I have always wondered why, and no one seems able to explain it, resulting in their becoming more and more frustrated and eventually angry. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sirius on December 22, 2011, 08:04:31 PM
I once had to explain what acetaminophen (Tylenol) was to a nurse.  She told me she had never heard of it. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Larrabee on December 22, 2011, 08:13:45 PM
I once had to explain what acetaminophen (Tylenol) was to a nurse.  She told me she had never heard of it.

Was she from another country?  Its called paracetamol in most places, although I'd have thought the exam to practice in the US would have covered it...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on December 22, 2011, 08:26:04 PM


I walked into a 5th grade math class once. The teacher was saying, "You never, ever, ever divide a large number into a small one!" OK. Maybe this is why we have so much trouble teaching math in middle and high school.


Then how would you know what percentage 44 is of 1500? 
Actually, I was going to bring this up in this thread as something that not only makes my brain hurt, but makes the brain of the person trying to explain to me why this works, to hurt even more.  While I accept that it does work, I have always wondered why, and no one seems able to explain it, resulting in their becoming more and more frustrated and eventually angry.

Well, you got me. I don't know how anyone doesn't get decimals because they are so obvious to me.

On the other hand, I don't get politics and subtle implications in language and in human relations. (My husband, kids, and friends are all more like me, so it works.) I get bashed here sometimes because of that. I understand the Bones (Temperence Brennen) character.

It also baffles me that medical people don't know acetamenophin and ibuprofin instead of Tylenol and Advil, re
I once had to explain what acetaminophen (Tylenol) was to a nurse.  She told me she had never heard of it.

Was she from another country?  Its called paracetamol in most places, although I'd have thought the exam to practice in the US would have covered it...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Larrabee on December 22, 2011, 08:31:14 PM
Paracetamol isn't a brand name, it honestly is just not known at all as acetaminophen in most countries!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kethria on December 22, 2011, 08:38:26 PM
Somehow someone got my office number confused with a different lab that does paid nutrition studies. My building has never been a part of that Lab and as far as I know the number has been assigned to this building for 20 years or more.

By a cruel cruel twist of fate, the person in charge of giving out information on these studies shares my first name.

So I got the woman who would not understand that yes, there might actually be more than one Kethria out there... (well assuming my real name was Kethria)

Woman: Is this Kethria?
Keth: Yes it is, to whom am I speaking?
W: THis is Mrs Annoying. Why haven't you sent me any more information for nutrition studies. I need the money.
K: I think you might have the wrong number, we aren't the Human Nutrition Lab. We are Environmental Microbial Bla Bla Bla Lab. (Seriously we merged with 3 other labs and now have the longest name on site)
W: But you are Kethria?
K: Erm... yes.
W: And this is your phone number?
K: Yes...
W: Then WHY haven't you sent me more information about studies! I'm on Social Security! I need the money!
K: Again, I am sorry but you have the wrong number. If you tell me WHICH Kethria you need to speak to I can look up her number.
W: YOU'RE Kethria.
K: (facepalm) Yes but I am not THAT Kethria.
W: But this is your phone number?
K: Yesssssss.
W: Then WHY haven't you.......(cue rant about her being a senior on social security. She NEEDS the money!)
K: (losing hope in humanity) You know what? That duty was transferred to someone else, let me get you THIER number (desperately searches online for Human Nutrition Lab numbers and gives out the first Kethria's number she sees.) Now be sure to call THIS NEW NUMBER OK?
W: OK because I need the money! I'm on social security!
K: OK yes I will, bye bye!
K: (Hangs up phone.) AHHHHHHHHHHH! 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Katharos on December 22, 2011, 09:29:05 PM
My department has 2 rooms- a regular office room with cubes and filing cabinets and then a storage room with lots of metal racks. (Why, yes, I do work in a Records Room!)  I asked my supervisor if the walls in both rooms were the same material. She said yes and I asked if she was sure. "Yes, the walls in here are double dry wall and in the other room is concrete."   .... That's not the same.

And I was trying to help her write a procedure. I told her to write the entire process first as though everything went smoothly and save the problem resolutions for the very end. Oh, but she was doing that! I asked to see it and she was writing problem resolutions after each step.

I love her but she drives me crazy.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Acadianna on December 22, 2011, 11:16:58 PM
My not-so-favorite brain-pain exchange happened when we had to inform a parent that her child (our student) was unable to read even close to her grade level.

Her response:  "Oh well, that doesn't matter.  Some day she'll have a secretary to do that for her."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on December 22, 2011, 11:22:49 PM
My not-so-favorite brain-pain exchange happened when we had to inform a parent that her child (our student) was unable to read even close to her grade level.

Her response:  "Oh well, that doesn't matter.  Some day she'll have a secretary to do that for her."

Aaaand...facepalm. How will she get a job that requires a secretary if she can't read??
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Baxter on December 22, 2011, 11:24:24 PM
I had this one when I was working as a receptionist over 20 years ago at a firm with over 100 men & woman.

Me "Hello Blobby Industries"
Caller "Hi, I need to speak to my husband"
Me - aha, you can't outsmart me, I'll say "May I say who is calling?" and deduce who your husband is from your name *insert sly, pleased with self grin*
Caller "It's his wife"
Me - crud
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sanity Lost on December 22, 2011, 11:35:39 PM
^^^^
That goes along with:
Them: HI I need to speak to Bob
Me: Sure, I have 3 here in the office; which one would you like?
Them: Bob in X Dept
Me: Well this is X Dept are you looking for Bob A, Bob B or Bob C
Them: (getting angry) I just want to talk to BOB!
Me: Okay, can I ask what this is in regards to? (thinking I can figure it out this way)
Them: NO! It's personal! Just transfer me to Bob
Me: Well can I have your name so I can see if Bob is available to take your call (I'll hunt each down if I have to!)
Them: (really angry now) NO! JUST GET ME TO BOB! ARE YOU THIS INCOMPETENT?
Me: One moment please... (grab first Bob I see) are you expecting a personal call from someone who doesn't know which Bob you are. If not do you know which one of you it is???? No okay on to the second Bob.

<swearing to myself NEVER to name my kid BOB! I hear Claudius is a nice name)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on December 23, 2011, 12:47:24 AM
I had one of these when I got my (one and only so far, knock on wood!) traffic ticket.  It was a fairly busy five-lane commercial street at dusk - lots of businesses and parking lots and driveways - and one of the traffic lights was out.  I saw the police car with the lights on pulled over on the opposite side of the street, but since everyone else was just slowing down and keeping going I assumed it was a traffic stop.  (No way to tell it was actually an intersection with a side street.)  Nope - as I got into the middle of the intersection, I saw the police officer with the glowy traffic-directing sticks had gone to the far opposite side of the street, looked like to answer a question from a driver over there.  So she wasn't in the intersection at all and the view was blocked by a car turning left in front of me anyway.  It was my bad luck that there happened to be a police officer behind me who pulled me over for "running the light."  (Apparently the traffic-directing officer had just signaled my lane to stop, but all the cars ahead of me went through first.)

So I get pulled over and the officer strolls up to the window and condescendingly asks me "Didn't you see that the light was out?"

I completely blanked - the only reply I could think of was "No, I didn't see it.  Probably because the light was out."  I knew I couldn't say it without sounding snarky, but really!  What else could I say?

Luckily the officer never showed up on the court date so the ticket got dropped - I was dreading having to explain the whole thing to the judge  :-\
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: esteban on December 23, 2011, 07:42:44 AM
I was also born at a military hospital although in Texas.  I can't even tell you how many people think El Paso isn't in the US, so don't feel too bad. 

My youngest sister has MG and as a result cannot have magnesium at all.  (It intensifies the symptoms which can be deadly particularly for someone already sick enough to be in ICU.)  Also about 20 years ago my other sis was in the hospital and was accidentally given an overdose, but since she wasn't hooked up to anything no one would have known it if the family hadn't been there until it may have been too late.  Since then we have a strict rule of having someone with you in the hospital.

A few years back my youngest sis was in ICU after her latest crisis and was in very bad shape.  The nurse brought in a bag of magnesium in her drip.  We always check meds before they are given and when she told my sis what it was she told the nurse she couldn't have it and why.  The nurse insisted and my mom had to actually step up to step in front of her to stop her!  So not long after the hospitalist came in to find out why my sister was refusing treatment and belligerent.  After my sister explained why, which really she shouldn't have to explain what meds she can and cannot take to the dr, he was extremely apologetic and they switched her to a different nurse.

When DH had his sinus surgery, he told a nurse he was allergic to morphine. I don't remember whether she was about to give him some, or just asking if he had any drug allergies. In any case, she responded with a skeptical look and said, "Are you sure? What happens when you have it?"

"It makes me itch all over. I'm telling you, I'm allergic to it."

She didn't push it after that, but I was annoyed. He said he's allergic to morphine, end of discussion.

Weird I have never had someone question me on that, and I say that as well even though it is more of an addiction issue than an allergy, but it keeps me away from all opiate things which is good.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Larrabee on December 23, 2011, 07:50:54 AM
I was also born at a military hospital although in Texas.  I can't even tell you how many people think El Paso isn't in the US, so don't feel too bad. 

My youngest sister has MG and as a result cannot have magnesium at all.  (It intensifies the symptoms which can be deadly particularly for someone already sick enough to be in ICU.)  Also about 20 years ago my other sis was in the hospital and was accidentally given an overdose, but since she wasn't hooked up to anything no one would have known it if the family hadn't been there until it may have been too late.  Since then we have a strict rule of having someone with you in the hospital.

A few years back my youngest sis was in ICU after her latest crisis and was in very bad shape.  The nurse brought in a bag of magnesium in her drip.  We always check meds before they are given and when she told my sis what it was she told the nurse she couldn't have it and why.  The nurse insisted and my mom had to actually step up to step in front of her to stop her!  So not long after the hospitalist came in to find out why my sister was refusing treatment and belligerent.  After my sister explained why, which really she shouldn't have to explain what meds she can and cannot take to the dr, he was extremely apologetic and they switched her to a different nurse.

When DH had his sinus surgery, he told a nurse he was allergic to morphine. I don't remember whether she was about to give him some, or just asking if he had any drug allergies. In any case, she responded with a skeptical look and said, "Are you sure? What happens when you have it?"

"It makes me itch all over. I'm telling you, I'm allergic to it."

She didn't push it after that, but I was annoyed. He said he's allergic to morphine, end of discussion.

Weird I have never had someone question me on that, and I say that as well even though it is more of an addiction issue than an allergy, but it keeps me away from all opiate things which is good.

On our charts we have to list the allergy AND the reaction.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: lady_disdain on December 23, 2011, 07:54:30 AM
I was also born at a military hospital although in Texas.  I can't even tell you how many people think El Paso isn't in the US, so don't feel too bad. 

My youngest sister has MG and as a result cannot have magnesium at all.  (It intensifies the symptoms which can be deadly particularly for someone already sick enough to be in ICU.)  Also about 20 years ago my other sis was in the hospital and was accidentally given an overdose, but since she wasn't hooked up to anything no one would have known it if the family hadn't been there until it may have been too late.  Since then we have a strict rule of having someone with you in the hospital.

A few years back my youngest sis was in ICU after her latest crisis and was in very bad shape.  The nurse brought in a bag of magnesium in her drip.  We always check meds before they are given and when she told my sis what it was she told the nurse she couldn't have it and why.  The nurse insisted and my mom had to actually step up to step in front of her to stop her!  So not long after the hospitalist came in to find out why my sister was refusing treatment and belligerent.  After my sister explained why, which really she shouldn't have to explain what meds she can and cannot take to the dr, he was extremely apologetic and they switched her to a different nurse.

When DH had his sinus surgery, he told a nurse he was allergic to morphine. I don't remember whether she was about to give him some, or just asking if he had any drug allergies. In any case, she responded with a skeptical look and said, "Are you sure? What happens when you have it?"

"It makes me itch all over. I'm telling you, I'm allergic to it."

She didn't push it after that, but I was annoyed. He said he's allergic to morphine, end of discussion.

Weird I have never had someone question me on that, and I say that as well even though it is more of an addiction issue than an allergy, but it keeps me away from all opiate things which is good.

On our charts we have to list the allergy AND the reaction.

I think that makes a lot of sense. Should a patient be given the wrong medicine, it will be easier to identify the cause.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: oz diva on December 23, 2011, 07:54:56 AM
Sanity Lost, your story reminds me of another story where someone called The Ritz in London in the 1940s and asked to speak to The King. The receptionist asked which one as they had 3 kings staying there at that time.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Larrabee on December 23, 2011, 07:55:17 AM
I was also born at a military hospital although in Texas.  I can't even tell you how many people think El Paso isn't in the US, so don't feel too bad. 

My youngest sister has MG and as a result cannot have magnesium at all.  (It intensifies the symptoms which can be deadly particularly for someone already sick enough to be in ICU.)  Also about 20 years ago my other sis was in the hospital and was accidentally given an overdose, but since she wasn't hooked up to anything no one would have known it if the family hadn't been there until it may have been too late.  Since then we have a strict rule of having someone with you in the hospital.

A few years back my youngest sis was in ICU after her latest crisis and was in very bad shape.  The nurse brought in a bag of magnesium in her drip.  We always check meds before they are given and when she told my sis what it was she told the nurse she couldn't have it and why.  The nurse insisted and my mom had to actually step up to step in front of her to stop her!  So not long after the hospitalist came in to find out why my sister was refusing treatment and belligerent.  After my sister explained why, which really she shouldn't have to explain what meds she can and cannot take to the dr, he was extremely apologetic and they switched her to a different nurse.

When DH had his sinus surgery, he told a nurse he was allergic to morphine. I don't remember whether she was about to give him some, or just asking if he had any drug allergies. In any case, she responded with a skeptical look and said, "Are you sure? What happens when you have it?"

"It makes me itch all over. I'm telling you, I'm allergic to it."

She didn't push it after that, but I was annoyed. He said he's allergic to morphine, end of discussion.

Weird I have never had someone question me on that, and I say that as well even though it is more of an addiction issue than an allergy, but it keeps me away from all opiate things which is good.

On our charts we have to list the allergy AND the reaction.

I think that makes a lot of sense. Should a patient be given the wrong medicine, it will be easier to identify the cause.

Its right there on the front page too, its important information!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on December 23, 2011, 07:56:42 AM
The TSA confiscated a cupcake because it's apparently a liquid. (http://boingboing.net/2011/12/22/tsa-confiscates-cupcake-calls.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

(Okay, so the frosting is a "gel," apparently, but the owner couldn't just scrape the frosting off and put it in a plastic bag because the total volume of the cupcake was more than 3 ounces.  Really???)

A red velvet one at that!! Makes me so glad that I've chosen to go by rail the next time I visit Iowa.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Thipu1 on December 23, 2011, 08:12:06 AM
There have been so many over the years.

One of my favorites was when I was solemnly assured that Hannibal took his elephants over the alps to bring Islam to Spain.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Hollymom1229 on December 23, 2011, 08:53:29 AM
These stories are cracking me up, while at the same time making me fear for humanity.  Thank you so much everyone for sharing.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: T'Mar of Vulcan on December 23, 2011, 09:02:46 AM
I ran into a teacher who thought AD meant After Death. I bit my tongue and did not ask her what happened to the 30 odd years between BC and AD.  (She meant after death of Christ)

Wasn't it here that a lot of people admitted they had always thought that's what it stands for? Even the kids I teach - I drum it into them, make them repeat it, and in the next test, what happens? Same stupid answer. I feel like screaming, "It's Anno Domini! Anno Domini!!"

But try explaining to kids (never mind adults) that the second millennium actually only started in 2001... "There was no year nought." "Why not?" *Bang head here*

Hospital anecdote:

When I went into the Sunninghill for a gastroscopy, my gastroenterologist said, "You can leave your street clothes on since we're just dealing with your throat." (Inserting a camera, but it was the upper body only.) I told the nurses specifically that the guy said I could leave my clothes on. They just said, "No, you have to get undressed. Put these on." I said, "The DOCTOR told me I can keep my clothes on." The nurse just said, "No," and shoved the gown and paper undies at me. And when I got down to his rooms, he said, "Let me guess, the nurses made you get undressed?" Uh, yeah, you think??

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Larrabee on December 23, 2011, 09:05:20 AM
Sounds like that doctor needs to actually talk to the nurses!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: exitzero on December 23, 2011, 09:20:42 AM
These stories remind me of the time in high school (a hundred years ago, so this story must have made a big impact on me to remember it all this time!).

I had a pocketbook that had a little pocket in the front with a flap. The flap had latch, but the latch was broken so the flap...well, flapped.

No less than 7 or 8 adults had the same conversion with me.

Them: That latch isn't closed.
Me: Yeah, it's broken.
Them: Someone could just reach right in there and take something!
Me: That's why I don't put anything in there.
Them: (with smug attitude) That doesn't matter, they could just grab the whole purse!

Me: Then it doesn't matter if the flap closes or not.

Them: Ticked off. Every. single. time.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Wulfie on December 23, 2011, 09:44:47 AM
Another doctor story:

My doctor Dr. Awsome gave up her practice to go full time with Doctors without Borders. Her partner took on all of her patients. I went to see him once, and only once. 

Doc: Your records from Dr Awsome state that you are allergic to alcohol (drinking alcohol not rubbing alcohol)
Me: Yep
Doc: That is impossible. Nobody is allergic to alcohol
Me: I am
Doc: Nobody is allergic to alcohol, I am a doctor and would know better than you about this.
Me: Trust me I am.
Doc: What does this supposed allergic reaction look like?
Me: I stop breathing, go into convulsions, die.  My parents had to do CPR on me the one time I drank.  I have no desire to ever have to have that done again.
Doc: Sounds like an allergic reaction; I will note it in your file. But nobody is allergic to alchol.
Me: Face palm
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Thipu1 on December 23, 2011, 10:04:38 AM
Here's another goody we heard during a Q and A session on a cruise ship.

If we have to abandon ship will our luggage be sent on ahead?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on December 23, 2011, 10:29:19 AM
What about that congressman who thought that having too many military personnel in Guam would cause the island to tip over?


When I used to work at the librarian, a librarian told us this story through tears of laughter.  She had a customer come up to her *totally* infuriated.  "I've been asking for help for ten minutes and nobody has come to help me!  I'm almost out of computer time!"  The librarian was puzzled, since she'd been right at the desk the whole time and the woman hadn't come up to the desk at all.  "I was right here and I didn't see you get up.  How were you asking for help?"  "I was pushing that F1 key over and over and nobody came!"  I would totally think this was an urban legend except that the librarian told me right after it happened, so I guess some people really do make that mistake!

But most of my exchanges that make my brain hurt are with my 4-year-old.  She has a talent for asking the kind of questions that force me to answer, "Uh... I don't know.  I will have to ask Papa/look that up and get back to you."  Good thing I'm married to an engineer.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Ms_Cellany on December 23, 2011, 10:30:35 AM
I'm bipolar, and when I was checking into the hospital during a manic episode, encountered a check-in nurse/assistant/tech who had never heard the term "delusions of grandeur."  I had to spell it for her.

ETA that she worked ON the psych ward. And yes, I mentioned the incident to the head nurse.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: girlysprite on December 23, 2011, 10:34:19 AM
My husband once was convinced that dividing numbers by 2 gave the same result as the root of that number. It took me 10 minutes to convince him that it was hogwash...In the end I juat asked him 'look, you told me you have bad grades for math and dropped it as soon as possible, while I got stellar grades and had a lot of lessons in it. Could you just take my word for it?'
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: finecabernet on December 23, 2011, 10:37:52 AM
Not sure if this precisely counts, but I once had a man flag me down to tell me my tire was almost flat. The only issue I had was that I was driving into a car repair shop as he was telling me (hence my reason for being there  :P ).
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on December 23, 2011, 11:01:08 AM
I had an ex who insisted moon phases were caused by the Earth's shadow, and that the Moon does not rotate on it's own axis.  He simply refused to believe the truth, even when I showed him.  Trying to deal with wilful ignorance makes my brain hurt, but I do enjoy this thread :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: dtbrad on December 23, 2011, 11:45:18 AM
I work in the US.  Some days I help the receptionist with shipping.  I had a college intern who wanted to ship a package to Australia "ground" ... I called to tell her that eventually it was going to have to cross water . . .

One on myself -- when I was much younger my dad told me that my car needed to have the tires rotated.  I replied, "But they rotate every day."  And I meant it.  Needless to say, I'm no mechanic.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Ezeesee on December 23, 2011, 11:50:48 AM
One on myself -- when I was much younger my dad told me that my car needed to have the tires rotated.  I replied, "But they rotate every day."  And I meant it.  Needless to say, I'm no mechanic.

Dtbrad, your answer makes complete sense to me! What else would it mean to rotate the tires? Probably a good thing I don't even own a car  :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: cabbagegirl28 on December 23, 2011, 11:59:58 AM
One on myself -- when I was much younger my dad told me that my car needed to have the tires rotated.  I replied, "But they rotate every day."  And I meant it.  Needless to say, I'm no mechanic.

Dtbrad, your answer makes complete sense to me! What else would it mean to rotate the tires? Probably a good thing I don't even own a car  :)

Well, basically, the wear on the back tires is different than the front tires. They move them so they don't wear out too fast and cause a blowout.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on December 23, 2011, 12:01:19 PM
One on myself -- when I was much younger my dad told me that my car needed to have the tires rotated.  I replied, "But they rotate every day."  And I meant it.  Needless to say, I'm no mechanic.

Dtbrad, your answer makes complete sense to me! What else would it mean to rotate the tires? Probably a good thing I don't even own a car  :)

Rotate in this sense means change them out, I think.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: JoW on December 23, 2011, 12:18:03 PM
One on myself -- when I was much younger my dad told me that my car needed to have the tires rotated.  I replied, "But they rotate every day."  And I meant it.  Needless to say, I'm no mechanic.

Dtbrad, your answer makes complete sense to me! What else would it mean to rotate the tires? Probably a good thing I don't even own a car  :)

Rotate in this sense means change them out, I think.
Actually, it means to move the back tires to the front and the front tires to the back to even-out the wear.  You don't buy new tires, you just re-arrange the ones you have now. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: eport on December 23, 2011, 12:22:22 PM
One from a friend of my brother.

Student goes to a college bar post last final exam to celebrate (is a senior and of legal drinking age). Bouncer will not accept his driver's license as proof of age because is it "obviously" a fake. Student shows that ID name/picture matches his student ID-no dice. Bouncer says that even it that is true, they don't have to accept said license because it is an out of state license and legally the bar only has to accept licenses from *this state* and states that touch *this state*.

This state is Missouri, Student is from Nebraska. Student goes to college library, checks out atlas, returns to bar and asks for a manager.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Larrabee on December 23, 2011, 12:26:38 PM
One from a friend of my brother.

Student goes to a college bar post last final exam to celebrate (is a senior and of legal drinking age). Bouncer will not accept his driver's license as proof of age because is it "obviously" a fake. Student shows that ID name/picture matches his student ID-no dice. Bouncer says that even it that is true, they don't have to accept said license because it is an out of state license and legally the bar only has to accept licenses from *this state* and states that touch *this state*.

This state is Missouri, Student is from Nebraska. Student goes to college library, checks out atlas, returns to bar and asks for a manager.

I was refused to entry to a bar in the US because my UK driver's licence is pink, and 'no proper country has pink driving licences' so it must be a fake.  8)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: lady_disdain on December 23, 2011, 12:27:29 PM
I had an ex who insisted moon phases were caused by the Earth's shadow, and that the Moon does not rotate on it's own axis.  He simply refused to believe the truth, even when I showed him.  Trying to deal with wilful ignorance makes my brain hurt, but I do enjoy this thread :)

Well, you were both right. Moon phases are caused by the Earth's shadow and the moon's position in relationship to the sun and the Earth, due to its orbit around the Earth. And, yes, the Moon does rotate around its own axis. Its rotational speed "matches" its translational speed, sothe same side of the moon always faces the Earth and why there is such a thing as the "hidden side of the moon".
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: shhh its me on December 23, 2011, 12:31:38 PM
One on myself -- when I was much younger my dad told me that my car needed to have the tires rotated.  I replied, "But they rotate every day."  And I meant it.  Needless to say, I'm no mechanic.

Dtbrad, your answer makes complete sense to me! What else would it mean to rotate the tires? Probably a good thing I don't even own a car  :)

Rotate in this sense means change them out, I think.
Actually, it means to move the back tires to the front and the front tires to the back to even-out the wear.  You don't buy new tires, you just re-arrange the ones you have now.
and side to side if they are nondirectional tires.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: msmoose on December 23, 2011, 12:32:45 PM
This isn't necessarily someone not knowing something... just a guy completely failing to think through what he's doing.

I bought a car several years ago. I bought it used private party, so there was no dealer tag or anything. In my state one has 7 days to pay the taxes and get a license tag for a new car; there are no other requirements. I carried the bill of sale and all the paperwork in the front seat in case I had any issues.

On the third day I had it (and the first time I drove it anywhere other than home for fear of this situation - I bought on a weekend), I went up to the tax collector's office to get my car registered after taking care of all the paperwork. As I was waiting on an opening to turn into the parking lot, I see blue lights behind me. I pulled into the parking lot across the street and stopped for the officer. He asked why I don't have a tag, and I tell him that I had just bought it a couple of days ago and was going to register it now, here's the paperwork showing the date and I'm within the 7 days, etc. He proceeds to go on a long rant about how he keeps having to waste his time stopping people like me who just can't be bothered to fulfill their legal obligations.. yada yada yada. I just stared open-mouthed and when he finished, pointed out (possibly foolishly) that yes, I'm aware I need to register my car, that's why I was trying to turn into the tax collector's office. He stopped, told me to get it taken care of and have a nice day. I can only assume he was having a very very bad day. The whole situation with the place and everything was beyond comical. I mean really, someone demonstrates to you that they are not, in fact, doing anything wrong while they are actively fixing this perceived wrong, and then you continue yelling at them about how they're completely irresponsible and doing something wrong? My head really had trouble grasping that one. I hope his day got better.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on December 23, 2011, 12:34:19 PM
I had an ex who insisted moon phases were caused by the Earth's shadow, and that the Moon does not rotate on it's own axis.  He simply refused to believe the truth, even when I showed him.  Trying to deal with wilful ignorance makes my brain hurt, but I do enjoy this thread :)

Well, you were both right. Moon phases are caused by the Earth's shadow and the moon's position in relationship to the sun and the Earth, due to its orbit around the Earth. And, yes, the Moon does rotate around its own axis. Its rotational speed "matches" its translational speed, sothe same side of the moon always faces the Earth and why there is such a thing as the "hidden side of the moon".

Sorry, but the Moon phases are not caused by the Earth's shadow.

I understand how the orbit of the Moon works.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Hijinks on December 23, 2011, 01:26:04 PM
Happens to me every. single. workday.

Person on phone:  *random request for information*
Awesome Me:  *begins to answer request*
Person on phone:  "Oh hold on ... let me grab a pen/paper/cat ..."

...

WHY did you ask me for information to be written down if you did not have said instrument to write it down with, and/or said fibrous writing material on which to write it??
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sirius on December 23, 2011, 01:39:20 PM
I once had to explain what acetaminophen (Tylenol) was to a nurse.  She told me she had never heard of it.

Was she from another country?  Its called paracetamol in most places, although I'd have thought the exam to practice in the US would have covered it...

As I recall she was not (this was 15 years ago), but I just found it jarring that I had to explain the generic name of one of the most common OTC meds in the United States to a nurse.  (She was an LVN.  I remember noticing her name tag.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on December 23, 2011, 01:51:52 PM
I had a man once tell me that salt melted ice because "the salt absorbs the water". 

And DH has dealt me a couple of doozies. 

#1) that men have one less rib than women, because of the Adam and Eve story.
#2) that meat is not the muscle tissue of an animal, but something else called "flesh".
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: twiggy on December 23, 2011, 02:05:33 PM
Happens to me every. single. workday.

Person on phone:  *random request for information*
Awesome Me:  *begins to answer request*
Person on phone:  "Oh hold on ... let me grab a pen/paper/cat ..."

...

WHY did you ask me for information to be written down if you did not have said instrument to write it down with, and/or said fibrous writing material on which to write it??

I have done this. What happened was I had called my phone company and based on previous experiences with their customer service I expected that I would be transferred several times, identify myself, pass the verification, explain my entire issue and be passed along again. When rep number two was able to help me and answer my question right away, I was totally unprepared.

Also, I typically leave a message when I call the pediatrician or nurse hotline. They are very busy, and rarely by a phone, but they're really good about returning phone calls. So, I am never prepared to have an actual person pick up, and the one time it happened, I didn't have pen or paper. Heck I think I even started my message spiel before my brain caught up and realized I was talking to an *actual person*
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: rose red on December 23, 2011, 02:20:53 PM
I think this happens to everybody:

Me:  Is your house the orange one or the purple one?
Them:  Yes.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: atirial on December 23, 2011, 02:46:11 PM
I had an ex who insisted moon phases were caused by the Earth's shadow, and that the Moon does not rotate on it's own axis.  He simply refused to believe the truth, even when I showed him.  Trying to deal with wilful ignorance makes my brain hurt, but I do enjoy this thread :)

Well, you were both right. Moon phases are caused by the Earth's shadow and the moon's position in relationship to the sun and the Earth, due to its orbit around the Earth. And, yes, the Moon does rotate around its own axis. Its rotational speed "matches" its translational speed, sothe same side of the moon always faces the Earth and why there is such a thing as the "hidden side of the moon".
I didn't think Earth's shadow came into it for phases, just eclipses. Here's a diagram of phases: http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases.phtml (http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases.phtml)

And I've had the rotation discussion more than once, but the only time I've ended up banging my head on the desk was a gentleman who thought the moon was actually physically made of light material on one side and dark on the other, hence "dark side of the moon".
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: shadowfox79 on December 23, 2011, 03:05:27 PM
I think this happens to everybody:

Me:  Is your house the orange one or the purple one?
Them:  Yes.

Or, similarly:

"To which address would you like that sent?"
"My house."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Otterpop on December 23, 2011, 03:11:41 PM
The whole situation with the place and everything was beyond comical. I mean really, someone demonstrates to you that they are not, in fact, doing anything wrong while they are actively fixing this perceived wrong, and then you continue yelling at them about how they're completely irresponsible and doing something wrong? My head really had trouble grasping that one. I hope his day got better.

Ill bet that was one clueless and frustrated police officer, constantly pulling over people who were unregistered.  When he finally realizes the reason is:  the location of his patrol, his experience will make sense.  *facepalm*
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: dtbrad on December 23, 2011, 03:20:08 PM
Happens to me every. single. workday.

Person on phone:  *random request for information*
Awesome Me:  *begins to answer request*
Person on phone:  "Oh hold on ... let me grab a pen/paper/cat ..."

...

WHY did you ask me for information to be written down if you did not have said instrument to write it down with, and/or said fibrous writing material on which to write it??


EXACTLY - don't ask me for a phone number and then say, "Let me grab a pen."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on December 23, 2011, 03:33:59 PM
I had an ex who insisted moon phases were caused by the Earth's shadow, and that the Moon does not rotate on it's own axis.  He simply refused to believe the truth, even when I showed him.  Trying to deal with wilful ignorance makes my brain hurt, but I do enjoy this thread :)

Well, you were both right. Moon phases are caused by the Earth's shadow and the moon's position in relationship to the sun and the Earth, due to its orbit around the Earth. And, yes, the Moon does rotate around its own axis. Its rotational speed "matches" its translational speed, sothe same side of the moon always faces the Earth and why there is such a thing as the "hidden side of the moon".
I didn't think Earth's shadow came into it for phases, just eclipses. Here's a diagram of phases: http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases.phtml (http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases.phtml)

And I've had the rotation discussion more than once, but the only time I've ended up banging my head on the desk was a gentleman who thought the moon was actually physically made of light material on one side and dark on the other, hence "dark side of the moon".

You are right atirial.

Interestingly, one of Saturn's moons, Iapetus, is dark on one side and bright on the other.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sirius on December 23, 2011, 03:56:03 PM

You are right atirial.

Interestingly, one of Saturn's moons, Iapetus, is dark on one side and bright on the other.

And it's also shaped like a walnut. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on December 23, 2011, 03:58:27 PM

You are right atirial.

Interestingly, one of Saturn's moons, Iapetus, is dark on one side and bright on the other.

And it's also shaped like a walnut.

Yes, but still isn't as cool as Mimas, which at uni we called the Death Star Moon  ;D

(http://www.asi.org/nineplanets/moons/Mimas.jpg)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mariejkt on December 23, 2011, 04:18:34 PM
When I worked for the Red Cross I had to make phone calls to notify miltary members of deaths, births, accidents etc of family.  Well one day I called one of the main red cross offices to transfer a message to a base in New Mexico (I don't remember what for it was over 12 years ago).  Well the operator kept arguing with me for almost 20 minutes saying I need APO address (used for Out of the Country mail) since New Mexico is not in the United States.  I finally had to ask for a supervisor and the supervisor asked what was the issue and I said your operator is saying I need an APO address  and they said yes you do for Mexico and I said but I am trying to get the message to New Mexico not Mexico and the supervisor said I need to have talk with my worker you are right New Mexico is not out of the country.  The supervisor took the message and hung up and I wanted to go beat my head against the wall but didn't.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: shhh its me on December 23, 2011, 04:20:00 PM
  I have two from when I worked in jewelry......
A phone call
  Hi my diamond fell out how much to replace it?

Do you know the size?

about the size of the little half moon thing on my pinky finger  ( the  lunula I had to look it up again)

Well since you're not here I'm really not sure how big your fingers are. If you purchased it here and have the receipt , I can look up the info for you. Did you buy it here?

No ,  but it's the size of the half moon part ....goes on to try to clarify which part of her fingernail she was talking about,since neither of us could remember the word lunula

But people's fingers and halfmoons are all different sizes I really cant tell from  that description without seeing your finger.If you bring in the ring we can figure about what size is appropriate or .................

We discuss the relative size of her lunula and diamonds.  with a lot of "but I can not see  your finger to see how big it is" "It's my pinky"

Please come in.....

But how much will it be?

I can find something in your price range whatever it is.  Wait , maybe I can guess with some other info. When  and where did you buy the ring and how much was it then?

OH  I don't want to tell you that, you'll just charge me that then and not give me a good price.

If you come in and show me the rest of the ring I can figure out a price for you, I really need some idea of the size.

IT;'s the size of the half moon...... ** OK you may be thinking this is nuts , but I am a professional I know the difference between crazy and wanting to spend money**

OK is the halfmoon part of you fingernail the size of a pea? I held while she got a pea.  At some point early on she was told " diamonds range anywhere in price form $20- 200,000.  Most of the engagements rings here sell for between $1000 and $8,000" and latter "the biggest halfmoon I'd ever seen would be around $5,000"  by this time we were communicating only in halfmoon measurements..  This range was not narrow enough.  So we discussed peas and halfmoons until we got it down to a $1000 range, she did buy the replacement diamond from us and the price was within the range.

The other I don't recall as much of the exchange but " I will like to know if my repair is complete?" while it seems like an easy question....... if you are unwilling to provide your name , ticket number , address , phone number and don't remember exactly when you dropped it off or who with only that it was a bracelet and the clasp was broken well I really will not be able to find it.....I figured it was the saleslady who was best at dealing with nutty people *to spite the previous exchange this wasn't me, I had no where near the tolorance this woman had*


 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on December 23, 2011, 04:27:16 PM


I walked into a 5th grade math class once. The teacher was saying, "You never, ever, ever divide a large number into a small one!" OK. Maybe this is why we have so much trouble teaching math in middle and high school.



Then how would you know what percentage 44 is of 1500? 
Actually, I was going to bring this up in this thread as something that not only makes my brain hurt, but makes the brain of the person trying to explain to me why this works, to hurt even more.  While I accept that it does work, I have always wondered why, and no one seems able to explain it, resulting in their becoming more and more frustrated and eventually angry.

I don't quite understand the question. Do you mean you can't follow the method of division, or that you don't understand the concept of something small being divided by something large? Or is it specifically percentages that you don't follow?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Maujer on December 23, 2011, 04:45:00 PM
^^^^
That goes along with:
Them: HI I need to speak to Bob
Me: Sure, I have 3 here in the office; which one would you like?
Them: Bob in X Dept
Me: Well this is X Dept are you looking for Bob A, Bob B or Bob C
Them: (getting angry) I just want to talk to BOB!
Me: Okay, can I ask what this is in regards to? (thinking I can figure it out this way)
Them: NO! It's personal! Just transfer me to Bob
Me: Well can I have your name so I can see if Bob is available to take your call (I'll hunt each down if I have to!)
Them: (really angry now) NO! JUST GET ME TO BOB! ARE YOU THIS INCOMPETENT?
Me: One moment please... (grab first Bob I see) are you expecting a personal call from someone who doesn't know which Bob you are. If not do you know which one of you it is???? No okay on to the second Bob.

<swearing to myself NEVER to name my kid BOB! I hear Claudius is a nice name)

Whenever I cover for the receptionist at my job, I want to bang my head against the wall. Note: If you are calling any decent sized company in Boston, do not ask for a Sean, Ryan, Daniel, John, or David without a last name. We have oodles of all of them.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BabylonSister on December 23, 2011, 04:48:35 PM
I ran into a teacher who thought AD meant After Death. I bit my tongue and did not ask her what happened to the 30 odd years between BC and AD.  (She meant after death of Christ)

Wasn't it here that a lot of people admitted they had always thought that's what it stands for? Even the kids I teach - I drum it into them, make them repeat it, and in the next test, what happens? Same stupid answer. I feel like screaming, "It's Anno Domini! Anno Domini!!"


I've heard a (Christian!) preacher say that and also that BC stands for Before Crucifixion. He was, erm, a little full of himself in general so I knew it would be a waste of time to try to correct him.


I heard another preacher say that Christians and Muslims don't have the same God because "The Muslims' God is Allah."  ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: starbuck on December 23, 2011, 04:53:54 PM
My sister and I both keep hens. We ran across a woman at a party who told us she thought it was "gross" to eat something that emerged from the hind end of a chicken. My sister said, oh you avoid eggs then? just making conversation and the woman replied that no, she eats eggs but only the kind that are made in a factory.  I said well all eggs come from hens even factory farmed eggs but no, she insisted her eggs were not factory "farmed" but factory "made" as in totally synthetic, because she would never eat anything that came of a chicken "like that." Good grief.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mariejkt on December 23, 2011, 04:58:37 PM
My sister and I both keep hens. We ran across a woman at a party who told us she thought it was "gross" to eat something that emerged from the hind end of a chicken. My sister said, oh you avoid eggs then? just making conversation and the woman replied that no, she eats eggs but only the kind that are made in a factory.  I said well all eggs come from hens even factory farmed eggs but no, she insisted her eggs were not factory "farmed" but factory "made" as in totally synthetic, because she would never eat anything that came of a chicken "like that." Good grief.

This one reminds me of something my son said happened at school one day.  Him and his friends were talking about meat (I have know clue why) and he said hamburger comes from a cow and a kid argued with him say no it doesn't it comes from the grocery store.  It is so sad that people don't know where their food comes from.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on December 23, 2011, 05:25:26 PM
My sister and I both keep hens. We ran across a woman at a party who told us she thought it was "gross" to eat something that emerged from the hind end of a chicken. My sister said, oh you avoid eggs then? just making conversation and the woman replied that no, she eats eggs but only the kind that are made in a factory.  I said well all eggs come from hens even factory farmed eggs but no, she insisted her eggs were not factory "farmed" but factory "made" as in totally synthetic, because she would never eat anything that came of a chicken "like that." Good grief.

This one reminds me of something my son said happened at school one day.  Him and his friends were talking about meat (I have know clue why) and he said hamburger comes from a cow and a kid argued with him say no it doesn't it comes from the grocery store.  It is so sad that people don't know where their food comes from.

I wondered if her mum told her that as a child in an attempt to get her to eat eggs...

Factory made eggs *shakes head in sadness*
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Harriet Jones on December 23, 2011, 05:47:09 PM
Sounds like the Dresser Queen, who'd rather buy tomatoes from the store than have home-grown, since they were growing in *dirt*.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: exitzero on December 23, 2011, 05:49:47 PM
^^^^
That goes along with:
Them: HI I need to speak to Bob
Me: Sure, I have 3 here in the office; which one would you like?
Them: Bob in X Dept
Me: Well this is X Dept are you looking for Bob A, Bob B or Bob C
Them: (getting angry) I just want to talk to BOB!
Me: Okay, can I ask what this is in regards to? (thinking I can figure it out this way)
Them: NO! It's personal! Just transfer me to Bob
Me: Well can I have your name so I can see if Bob is available to take your call (I'll hunt each down if I have to!)
Them: (really angry now) NO! JUST GET ME TO BOB! ARE YOU THIS INCOMPETENT?
Me: One moment please... (grab first Bob I see) are you expecting a personal call from someone who doesn't know which Bob you are. If not do you know which one of you it is???? No okay on to the second Bob.

<swearing to myself NEVER to name my kid BOB! I hear Claudius is a nice name)

Whenever I cover for the receptionist at my job, I want to bang my head against the wall. Note: If you are calling any decent sized company in Boston, do not ask for a Sean, Ryan, Daniel, John, or David without a last name. We have oodles of all of them.


And the reverse, if your name is Sean, Ryan, Daniel, John or David, leave your last name or at least an extension  when you leave a message for me to call you back!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Grancalla on December 23, 2011, 05:58:11 PM
Years ago when I worked in a military hospital records section I had to do a bunch of paperwork to get the minimum security clearance necessary for my job.  I did fine until I got to the section about my spouse; Mr. Sirius was born in Britain, but at an Air Force base to parents who are U.S. citizens so he is a U.S. citizen by birth.  The paperwork only had two categories for foreign born spouses - resident aliens and naturalized citizens.  There was nothing in the paperwork about foreign-born U.S. citizens.  I came to a complete halt.  I told my boss why I couldn't finish the paperwork, so she contacted the security people and told them what was happening.  Meanwhile, they're nagging me to finish the paperwork, and I can't, even going so far as to threaten to pull my security clearance so I couldn't do the job I was doing. 

Finally, about two weeks later, my boss informed me that the paperwork had been fixed, and I finished it.  What amazed me was that, with all the people in the military who have had children overseas, no one thought to include a category for family members who are foreign-born U.S. citizens.  Mr. Sirius, who was an active duty military member at the time, told me he ran into the same thing when he had to do the paperwork.

A cubicle-mate at a former job ran into a similar problem. He was born to US citizens, in a civilian hospital in a foreign country. Some of the people responsible for the paperwork kept wanting to classify him as a foreign national.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: oz diva on December 23, 2011, 09:21:11 PM
I was once sitting in my car in the right turn lane and had my right indicator flashing. A man sitting in his car to my left was gesticulating wildly at me, so I turned down the window and he yelled "Your indicator is on!" "Yes, that's because I'm turning right", I said. Maybe his doesn't get much use. But that's what I do if I'm turning right.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: magician5 on December 23, 2011, 10:47:40 PM
I had a man once tell me that salt melted ice because "the salt absorbs the water". 

And DH has dealt me a couple of doozies. 

#1) that men have one less rib than women, because of the Adam and Eve story.
#2) that meat is not the muscle tissue of an animal, but something else called "flesh".

I am an intelligent person (well, they let me walk around unsupervised anyway), and until just a year or two ago (I'm 62) I believed the "one less rib" thing (though not the reason how this came to be).
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: magician5 on December 23, 2011, 10:52:12 PM
This one reminds me of something my son said happened at school one day.  Him and his friends were talking about meat (I have know clue why) and he said hamburger comes from a cow and a kid argued with him say no it doesn't it comes from the grocery store.  It is so sad that people don't know where their food comes from.

True ... and most people couldn't tell a wild veal (with its huge claws) from a farmed veal, either. Not to mention those poor turduckens.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: oz diva on December 23, 2011, 10:55:00 PM
I was at my brother's today and his daughter G (17). Bro was carving some ham and G asked if we also ate sheep.  ::) This is the same girl who received the car (see other thread) so she has proved her intelligence, but she totally forgot that lamb is sheep and she is having it for dinner.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: PaintingPastelPrincess on December 23, 2011, 11:13:45 PM
I will say, I hate trying to decipher the ship to "ONTARIO CA" comments in the system at work because CA is both the country code for Canada and the state code for California and people don't always think a zip code is necessary.  The country, of course, is "obvious."  ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Daffodil on December 23, 2011, 11:54:25 PM
I've had customers seriously ask me why they couldn't open a contract in someone else's name - who isn't even present at the time  ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Ereine on December 24, 2011, 12:26:16 AM
I can't quote with my phone but the ground mail to Australia thing is making my brain hurt but not in the way it was maybe intended. Is it because they used the term ground mail instead of surface mail or because you think it needs to travel by plane if it crosses water? I know that the US post office discontinued international surface mail a few years ago, it was a huge thing in the mail swapping communities I was involved in but I've sent many packages by surface mail to America even if there's an ocean between us. The mail just travels by boat. I didn't usually do it with packages to Australia if there was need for one, it takes about three months with surface mail. In Finnish I actually call it ground mail at the post office, to separate it from air mail and they always understand me.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: shhh its me on December 24, 2011, 05:20:30 AM
I can't quote with my phone but the ground mail to Australia thing is making my brain hurt but not in the way it was maybe intended. Is it because they used the term ground mail instead of surface mail or because you think it needs to travel by plane if it crosses water? I know that the US post office discontinued international surface mail a few years ago, it was a huge thing in the mail swapping communities I was involved in but I've sent many packages by surface mail to America even if there's an ocean between us. The mail just travels by boat. I didn't usually do it with packages to Australia if there was need for one, it takes about three months with surface mail. In Finnish I actually call it ground mail at the post office, to separate it from air mail and they always understand me.

From the US to England I've done the same thing, I don't expect a bridge to be built I just want the "ground" equivalent speed and price option. What I don't want is 2 day air or 5 day priority I might not know the name of the service (since the names seem to change randomly) IF I said  ground? they told me the name  its take 2-4 weeks and other name takes no more then 10 days and costs x more.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mbbored on December 24, 2011, 07:26:15 AM
I used to work with a woman from Alaska. She was constantly amazed at how many people didn't know that Alaska is a state.

Recently I was with a friend as she was closing out an investment account shortly before moving out of state. There was a question about whether her current representative would be able to help her or not based on which state she would actually be living in at the time the transaction was completed. He at first insisted he was not licensed in the state she was moving to and would therefore have to turn her file over to someone else to handle. On the visit where I was with her, he then said he actually WAS licensed in that state. This guy was rude and flaky on lots of counts so when he said this she was a bit taken aback and asked for proof since he clearly didn't know where he was licensed and where he wasn't. He got all huffy and said, "There are fifty-some-odd states! I can't remember all of them!"

We looked at each other and I mumbled something about how I was under the impression there were exactly fifty states.

We still joke about that!

I have a friend who develops geographic software, who insisted one day at lunch that Hawaii was the 51st state. I had him look it up on his smart phone, but clearly Google was wrong. We were eating next to city hall, which was flying an American flag, so we sat there and counted stars, but city hall also was wrong, and was apparently flying a 50 year old flag. Eventually he said, "Let's just agree to disagree." Uh, yeah, no. You're wrong, I'm right.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: lady_disdain on December 24, 2011, 07:29:40 AM
I had an ex who insisted moon phases were caused by the Earth's shadow, and that the Moon does not rotate on it's own axis.  He simply refused to believe the truth, even when I showed him.  Trying to deal with wilful ignorance makes my brain hurt, but I do enjoy this thread :)

Well, you were both right. Moon phases are caused by the Earth's shadow and the moon's position in relationship to the sun and the Earth, due to its orbit around the Earth. And, yes, the Moon does rotate around its own axis. Its rotational speed "matches" its translational speed, sothe same side of the moon always faces the Earth and why there is such a thing as the "hidden side of the moon".
I didn't think Earth's shadow came into it for phases, just eclipses. Here's a diagram of phases: http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases.phtml (http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases.phtml)

And I've had the rotation discussion more than once, but the only time I've ended up banging my head on the desk was a gentleman who thought the moon was actually physically made of light material on one side and dark on the other, hence "dark side of the moon".

Doh! I was thinking of eclipses...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: oogyda on December 24, 2011, 07:30:59 AM
At a family reunion where most of the "family" lives in Minnesota I was chatting with a distant cousin who I don't remember meeting before:

Me: So, where do you live?
DC: Minot (North Dakota).  Where do you live?
Me: Idaho.
DC: Is that in Minnesota or North Dakota? 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Redsoil on December 24, 2011, 07:43:33 AM
New patients who ring for an appointment, then try to hang up (their cats must be on fire) after I mention an available timeslot without giving me their name (or other pertinent details).  "Oh good, I'll see you then!" (Um, hang on a minute!)  Plus, there is certain information I need to give you so you're appropriately informed/prepared for your initial consult, so take a minute or two (literally - it's not that long) to listen. 

Really - where on earth does it work that you book a medical appointment and just turn up without giving your name?  The very thing we need to actually MAKE a booking!  Even more interesting - I ask their name (Saying something like "I can book you in at 3pm if that suits, so if I can just get your name and a few other details for the records"), get the details from them, then have them say "Oh, it's not for me - it's for my husband/child/resident green blob etc"  Changes the situation if it's not for you!  (The clue would be "I can book YOU in etc...")
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Giggity on December 24, 2011, 08:26:10 AM
My sister and I both keep hens. We ran across a woman at a party who told us she thought it was "gross" to eat something that emerged from the hind end of a chicken. My sister said, oh you avoid eggs then? just making conversation and the woman replied that no, she eats eggs but only the kind that are made in a factory.  I said well all eggs come from hens even factory farmed eggs but no, she insisted her eggs were not factory "farmed" but factory "made" as in totally synthetic, because she would never eat anything that came of a chicken "like that." Good grief.

GAAAAAH.

You know, the first time I picked up an egg that was so warm it had to have just come from the chicken, I was all "eeeew chicken butt heat!" But then I realized that that means FRESH, and now that I actually know some chickens, I will probably never buy grocery-store eggs again.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Layla Miller on December 24, 2011, 09:01:04 AM
See, this is why I don't eat the egg shells.  Much simpler than worrying about chicken butt.  ;D

Anyone else keeping thinking of that silly "Guess what?" / "Chicken butt!" bit by now?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on December 24, 2011, 09:15:28 AM
I used to work with a woman from Alaska. She was constantly amazed at how many people didn't know that Alaska is a state.

Recently I was with a friend as she was closing out an investment account shortly before moving out of state. There was a question about whether her current representative would be able to help her or not based on which state she would actually be living in at the time the transaction was completed. He at first insisted he was not licensed in the state she was moving to and would therefore have to turn her file over to someone else to handle. On the visit where I was with her, he then said he actually WAS licensed in that state. This guy was rude and flaky on lots of counts so when he said this she was a bit taken aback and asked for proof since he clearly didn't know where he was licensed and where he wasn't. He got all huffy and said, "There are fifty-some-odd states! I can't remember all of them!"

We looked at each other and I mumbled something about how I was under the impression there were exactly fifty states.

We still joke about that!

I have a friend who develops geographic software, who insisted one day at lunch that Hawaii was the 51st state. I had him look it up on his smart phone, but clearly Google was wrong. We were eating next to city hall, which was flying an American flag, so we sat there and counted stars, but city hall also was wrong, and was apparently flying a 50 year old flag. Eventually he said, "Let's just agree to disagree." Uh, yeah, no. You're wrong, I'm right.

That would go in the "things that drive you completely up the wall" thread for me!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: SpottedPony on December 24, 2011, 09:57:26 AM
There's an ad from a San Francisco paper that's been making the rounds.  It goes something like this, 'Hunters, there is no need to go out and kill animals for their meat, just go to the grocery story and buy it there where no animals were harmed." 

Good grief, the person who bought that ad had NO idea where meat, wild or domestic comes from.

Spotted Pony
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Allyson on December 24, 2011, 10:03:00 AM
This exchange with a customer made my brain hurt...

Customer: What does *food item* come with?
Me: It comes with mushrooms an a tomato-herb dressing
Customer: Oh, no mushrooms, just the tomato-herb dressing
Me: Sure!
*brings customer food*
Customer: Uh, I don't do tomatos, I want the oil dressing...nevermind, take it back and just give me marinara

Me ....
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: shhh its me on December 24, 2011, 10:06:35 AM
I used to work with a woman from Alaska. She was constantly amazed at how many people didn't know that Alaska is a state.

Recently I was with a friend as she was closing out an investment account shortly before moving out of state. There was a question about whether her current representative would be able to help her or not based on which state she would actually be living in at the time the transaction was completed. He at first insisted he was not licensed in the state she was moving to and would therefore have to turn her file over to someone else to handle. On the visit where I was with her, he then said he actually WAS licensed in that state. This guy was rude and flaky on lots of counts so when he said this she was a bit taken aback and asked for proof since he clearly didn't know where he was licensed and where he wasn't. He got all huffy and said, "There are fifty-some-odd states! I can't remember all of them!"

We looked at each other and I mumbled something about how I was under the impression there were exactly fifty states.

We still joke about that!

I have a friend who develops geographic software, who insisted one day at lunch that Hawaii was the 51st state. I had him look it up on his smart phone, but clearly Google was wrong. We were eating next to city hall, which was flying an American flag, so we sat there and counted stars, but city hall also was wrong, and was apparently flying a 50 year old flag. Eventually he said, "Let's just agree to disagree." Uh, yeah, no. You're wrong, I'm right.

That would go in the "things that drive you completely up the wall" thread for me!

OR...." this isn't really an impostant issue , it's not important whose right let's just drop it" which I'm willing to do but I do notice if the only time things should be dropped is if I'm right.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: 2littlemonkeys on December 24, 2011, 02:21:43 PM
I had a conversation with a doctor similar to a PPs conversation with the police officer.

I had developed a UTI and took some OTC medicine specifically designed to alleviate the pain and discomfort until you can get to the doctor.  These pills color the urine an orange color, though I can't remember why.  At any rate, when I finally got in to see the doctor, I let the nurse know that I had taken the OTC meds. 

A little while later, the doctor came in and proceeded to give me a lecture about taking those meds because they make you think you feel better but the infection is still there and then you don't come into the doctor and get it treated properly.

It was so surreal.  I wanted to say, "But...I'm here...waiting for the proper treatment..." but I think I was too  ??? to say anything.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: wolfie on December 24, 2011, 02:57:38 PM
I used to work with a woman from Alaska. She was constantly amazed at how many people didn't know that Alaska is a state.

Recently I was with a friend as she was closing out an investment account shortly before moving out of state. There was a question about whether her current representative would be able to help her or not based on which state she would actually be living in at the time the transaction was completed. He at first insisted he was not licensed in the state she was moving to and would therefore have to turn her file over to someone else to handle. On the visit where I was with her, he then said he actually WAS licensed in that state. This guy was rude and flaky on lots of counts so when he said this she was a bit taken aback and asked for proof since he clearly didn't know where he was licensed and where he wasn't. He got all huffy and said, "There are fifty-some-odd states! I can't remember all of them!"

We looked at each other and I mumbled something about how I was under the impression there were exactly fifty states.

We still joke about that!

I have a friend who develops geographic software, who insisted one day at lunch that Hawaii was the 51st state. I had him look it up on his smart phone, but clearly Google was wrong. We were eating next to city hall, which was flying an American flag, so we sat there and counted stars, but city hall also was wrong, and was apparently flying a 50 year old flag. Eventually he said, "Let's just agree to disagree." Uh, yeah, no. You're wrong, I'm right.

Shoulda asked him to name all 51 states. See what he adds in.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on December 24, 2011, 03:24:12 PM
I used to work with a woman from Alaska. She was constantly amazed at how many people didn't know that Alaska is a state.

Recently I was with a friend as she was closing out an investment account shortly before moving out of state. There was a question about whether her current representative would be able to help her or not based on which state she would actually be living in at the time the transaction was completed. He at first insisted he was not licensed in the state she was moving to and would therefore have to turn her file over to someone else to handle. On the visit where I was with her, he then said he actually WAS licensed in that state. This guy was rude and flaky on lots of counts so when he said this she was a bit taken aback and asked for proof since he clearly didn't know where he was licensed and where he wasn't. He got all huffy and said, "There are fifty-some-odd states! I can't remember all of them!"

We looked at each other and I mumbled something about how I was under the impression there were exactly fifty states.

We still joke about that!

I have a friend who develops geographic software, who insisted one day at lunch that Hawaii was the 51st state. I had him look it up on his smart phone, but clearly Google was wrong. We were eating next to city hall, which was flying an American flag, so we sat there and counted stars, but city hall also was wrong, and was apparently flying a 50 year old flag. Eventually he said, "Let's just agree to disagree." Uh, yeah, no. You're wrong, I'm right.

Shoulda asked him to name all 51 states. See what he adds in.

State of Confusion.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on December 24, 2011, 03:28:11 PM
I used to work with a woman from Alaska. She was constantly amazed at how many people didn't know that Alaska is a state.

Recently I was with a friend as she was closing out an investment account shortly before moving out of state. There was a question about whether her current representative would be able to help her or not based on which state she would actually be living in at the time the transaction was completed. He at first insisted he was not licensed in the state she was moving to and would therefore have to turn her file over to someone else to handle. On the visit where I was with her, he then said he actually WAS licensed in that state. This guy was rude and flaky on lots of counts so when he said this she was a bit taken aback and asked for proof since he clearly didn't know where he was licensed and where he wasn't. He got all huffy and said, "There are fifty-some-odd states! I can't remember all of them!"

We looked at each other and I mumbled something about how I was under the impression there were exactly fifty states.

We still joke about that!

I have a friend who develops geographic software, who insisted one day at lunch that Hawaii was the 51st state. I had him look it up on his smart phone, but clearly Google was wrong. We were eating next to city hall, which was flying an American flag, so we sat there and counted stars, but city hall also was wrong, and was apparently flying a 50 year old flag. Eventually he said, "Let's just agree to disagree." Uh, yeah, no. You're wrong, I'm right.

Shoulda asked him to name all 51 states. See what he adds in.

State of Confusion.

Or State of Denial!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: TinyVulgarUnicorn on December 24, 2011, 05:30:37 PM
My husband and I had this happen to us in a Costco Food Court a few weeks ago.  This is how the exchange with the guy at the food counter went:

Hubby:  Hi, we would like a slice of pizza, a soda and a yogurt.
Guy:  Okay, so I have a pizza slice, churro and soda.  That will be (price).
Hubby:  No churro, just a pizza slice, soda and yogurt.
Guy:  Okay, so a pizza slice, soda, yogurt and churro.
Hubby:  We don't want a churro.
Guy:  Okay, so a pizza slice, soda and a churro.
Hubby:  No churro!  Just a pizza slice, soda and yogurt.
Guy:  Okay, I have four items.
Hubby:  No!  Three items!  Pizza slice, soda and a yogurt!
Guy:  Oh!  Okay!

Meanwhile the guy behind us is cracking up because this guy is beyond ridiculous.  We eventually got our order, but we were trying to figure out if Costco was trying to get rid of their churro's. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mbbored on December 24, 2011, 07:13:28 PM
I used to work with a woman from Alaska. She was constantly amazed at how many people didn't know that Alaska is a state.

Recently I was with a friend as she was closing out an investment account shortly before moving out of state. There was a question about whether her current representative would be able to help her or not based on which state she would actually be living in at the time the transaction was completed. He at first insisted he was not licensed in the state she was moving to and would therefore have to turn her file over to someone else to handle. On the visit where I was with her, he then said he actually WAS licensed in that state. This guy was rude and flaky on lots of counts so when he said this she was a bit taken aback and asked for proof since he clearly didn't know where he was licensed and where he wasn't. He got all huffy and said, "There are fifty-some-odd states! I can't remember all of them!"

We looked at each other and I mumbled something about how I was under the impression there were exactly fifty states.

We still joke about that!

I have a friend who develops geographic software, who insisted one day at lunch that Hawaii was the 51st state. I had him look it up on his smart phone, but clearly Google was wrong. We were eating next to city hall, which was flying an American flag, so we sat there and counted stars, but city hall also was wrong, and was apparently flying a 50 year old flag. Eventually he said, "Let's just agree to disagree." Uh, yeah, no. You're wrong, I'm right.

Shoulda asked him to name all 51 states. See what he adds in.

State of Confusion.

Or State of Denial!

Surprisingly enough, he said Puerto Rico! He said it joined in the 50s, near when Alaska did. Then we debated whether or not US had territory that wasn't officially states. Guess who swore we didn't have territories?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: drafter_lady on December 25, 2011, 10:28:11 AM
My mom lives on the east coast of the US and I am on the west coast. There is a three hour time difference between us. Today, she asked me if gets dark early here at this time of year, or is that just an east coast thing. *face palm* I love her, but this kind of thing happens a lot.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BabylonSister on December 25, 2011, 11:13:00 AM
At a family reunion where most of the "family" lives in Minnesota I was chatting with a distant cousin who I don't remember meeting before:

Me: So, where do you live?
DC: Minot (North Dakota).  Where do you live?
Me: Idaho.
DC: Is that in Minnesota or North Dakota?


To be perfectly fair, there are cities named after other states. I lived many years in Northwest Illinois, not far from cities named Oregon and Ohio.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: strangetimes on December 25, 2011, 12:27:45 PM
Years ago when I worked in a military hospital records section I had to do a bunch of paperwork to get the minimum security clearance necessary for my job.  I did fine until I got to the section about my spouse; Mr. Sirius was born in Britain, but at an Air Force base to parents who are U.S. citizens so he is a U.S. citizen by birth.  The paperwork only had two categories for foreign born spouses - resident aliens and naturalized citizens.  There was nothing in the paperwork about foreign-born U.S. citizens.  I came to a complete halt.  I told my boss why I couldn't finish the paperwork, so she contacted the security people and told them what was happening.  Meanwhile, they're nagging me to finish the paperwork, and I can't, even going so far as to threaten to pull my security clearance so I couldn't do the job I was doing. 

Finally, about two weeks later, my boss informed me that the paperwork had been fixed, and I finished it.  What amazed me was that, with all the people in the military who have had children overseas, no one thought to include a category for family members who are foreign-born U.S. citizens.  Mr. Sirius, who was an active duty military member at the time, told me he ran into the same thing when he had to do the paperwork.

A cubicle-mate at a former job ran into a similar problem. He was born to US citizens, in a civilian hospital in a foreign country. Some of the people responsible for the paperwork kept wanting to classify him as a foreign national.

Well, in his case, he might actually be a foreign national. We live overseas and after each child is born, my husband goes to the American embassy to get a 'consular report of birth abroad' and have them made American citizens. If we hadn't done that, our kids wouldn't be American. So, they're not completely wrong- your coworker may be American because his parents took care of his citizenship, but it's not automatic.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on December 25, 2011, 04:21:02 PM
My mom lives on the east coast of the US and I am on the west coast. There is a three hour time difference between us. Today, she asked me if gets dark early here at this time of year, or is that just an east coast thing. *face palm* I love her, but this kind of thing happens a lot.

Friends of mine were transferred to Japan with his job. I had a going-away party for them, and at the party another guest asked them, "So, is it summer there too, or are the seasons different because it's so far away."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: magician5 on December 25, 2011, 08:31:20 PM
But ... but ... but ... consider how the seasons are indeed reversed south of the equator (Australia, etc)

Just a wee bit too little thought on the part of your friend, in this case.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Amalthea on December 25, 2011, 08:50:53 PM
My mom lives on the east coast of the US and I am on the west coast. There is a three hour time difference between us. Today, she asked me if gets dark early here at this time of year, or is that just an east coast thing. *face palm* I love her, but this kind of thing happens a lot.

Friends of mine were transferred to Japan with his job. I had a going-away party for them, and at the party another guest asked them, "So, is it summer there too, or are the seasons different because it's so far away."

I get asked this all the time.  By both Americans and Japanese people.  My mom also once asked me if there were rainbows in Japan.  My friend tried really hard to get me to tell her yes, but the colors were all backwards.

Every time I get a hair cut, someone always asks me if I got it cut in Japan.  I'm not sure if I'm missing something, or if they really expect me to leave the country for a hair cut, or what.  It always confuses me.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sirius on December 25, 2011, 08:52:20 PM
Years ago when I worked in a military hospital records section I had to do a bunch of paperwork to get the minimum security clearance necessary for my job.  I did fine until I got to the section about my spouse; Mr. Sirius was born in Britain, but at an Air Force base to parents who are U.S. citizens so he is a U.S. citizen by birth.  The paperwork only had two categories for foreign born spouses - resident aliens and naturalized citizens.  There was nothing in the paperwork about foreign-born U.S. citizens.  I came to a complete halt.  I told my boss why I couldn't finish the paperwork, so she contacted the security people and told them what was happening.  Meanwhile, they're nagging me to finish the paperwork, and I can't, even going so far as to threaten to pull my security clearance so I couldn't do the job I was doing. 

Finally, about two weeks later, my boss informed me that the paperwork had been fixed, and I finished it.  What amazed me was that, with all the people in the military who have had children overseas, no one thought to include a category for family members who are foreign-born U.S. citizens.  Mr. Sirius, who was an active duty military member at the time, told me he ran into the same thing when he had to do the paperwork.

A cubicle-mate at a former job ran into a similar problem. He was born to US citizens, in a civilian hospital in a foreign country. Some of the people responsible for the paperwork kept wanting to classify him as a foreign national.

Well, in his case, he might actually be a foreign national. We live overseas and after each child is born, my husband goes to the American embassy to get a 'consular report of birth abroad' and have them made American citizens. If we hadn't done that, our kids wouldn't be American. So, they're not completely wrong- your coworker may be American because his parents took care of his citizenship, but it's not automatic.

Mr. Sirius has one of those consular reports plus a British birth certificate, but the thing about the security paperwork that was strange was that it was obvious that whoever had put it together hadn't thought about the possibility of U.S. citizens who are born in other countries besides the U.S.  And such people are very common in a military community.  (An interesting tidbit - when Mr. Sirius himself was stationed at the same base where he was born, he rented a gamekeeper's lodge from the man who had signed his birth certificate.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Dr. Horrible on December 25, 2011, 08:57:43 PM
I will say, I hate trying to decipher the ship to "ONTARIO CA" comments in the system at work because CA is both the country code for Canada and the state code for California and people don't always think a zip code is necessary.  The country, of course, is "obvious."  ::)

well, Ontario is a province. If they were shipping to our glorious province, they'd need a town or city! Were pretty big, so a package for Suzy in Ontario isn't going to get anywhere (and die a slow lonely death at the post office while postal workers mock it for not having a city.) But Ontario, CA is an actual specific place, no further refinement (except for postal zip thingy) needed. I'd be assuming everything labeled Ontario CA is for cali.

or are there a not-really surprisingly large number of people who think they can get away with sending something to Canada armed only with name and province (not even a postal code)?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Tierrainney on December 25, 2011, 10:19:14 PM
This one isn't mine, but fits the topic.

I had a friend in college who was from House, New Mexico. So she had the people confused about New Mexico being in the USA, she had the people who didn't believe the name of her town. And she had people who thought she didn't know how to pronounce Taos, New Mexico correctly ( Taos is a relatively famous city in New Mexico )

She just couldn't win.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on December 25, 2011, 10:52:33 PM
This one isn't mine, but fits the topic.

I had a friend in college who was from House, New Mexico. So she had the people confused about New Mexico being in the USA, she had the people who didn't believe the name of her town. And she had people who thought she didn't know how to pronounce Taos, New Mexico correctly ( Taos is a relatively famous city in New Mexico )

She just couldn't win.

People don't know that Taos rhymes with mouse?  And it may be relatively famous, but it's also REALLY tiny.  =)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: crella on December 26, 2011, 03:12:38 AM
One on myself -- when I was much younger my dad told me that my car needed to have the tires rotated.  I replied, "But they rotate every day."  And I meant it.  Needless to say, I'm no mechanic.

Dtbrad, your answer makes complete sense to me! What else would it mean to rotate the tires? Probably a good thing I don't even own a car  :)

Rotate in this sense means change them out, I think.
Actually, it means to move the back tires to the front and the front tires to the back to even-out the wear.  You don't buy new tires, you just re-arrange the ones you have now.

And, I believe , they cross them over from one side to the other.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on December 26, 2011, 04:15:04 AM


People don't know that Taos rhymes with mouse?  And it may be relatively famous, but it's also REALLY tiny.  =)

Thanks for that. I know where it is, but I don't think I've ever heard it pronounced.

Add that to Helena and Pierre being said properly, I may someday sound half bright.

7000 people? I had no idea it was a small.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on December 26, 2011, 04:33:28 AM
Well, to get really technical, it's a one-and-a-half syllable word.  (Like a valley girl "wa-ow!")   It's closer to Ta-ouse, but rhyming it with mouse is close enough.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: iridaceae on December 26, 2011, 05:57:04 AM
Every once in a while on nights when we are sold out I have the following conversation:

Me:     Thank you for calling Hotel, this is iridaceae how may I direct your call?
Them: Yeah, I need a room for tonight.
Me:     I'm sorry; we don't have any rooms available tonight.
Them: I just need one room.
Me:     Unfortunately we're sold out and don't have any rooms available.
Them: Not even one?
Me:     No; I'm sorry.
Them: Are you sure?

Some nights I get two or three calls like this.  I begin to feel as if I'm speaking Aramaic or something.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: emwithme on December 26, 2011, 07:12:53 AM
Every once in a while on nights when we are sold out I have the following conversation:

Me:     Thank you for calling Hotel, this is iridaceae how may I direct your call?
Them: Yeah, I need a room for tonight.
Me:     I'm sorry; we don't have any rooms available tonight.
Them: I just need one room.
Me:     Unfortunately we're sold out and don't have any rooms available.
Them: Not even one?
Me:     No; I'm sorry.
Them: Are you sure?

Some nights I get two or three calls like this.  I begin to feel as if I'm speaking Aramaic or something.

Maybe they're waiting for you to offer them a stable?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: iridaceae on December 26, 2011, 07:28:29 AM
Every once in a while on nights when we are sold out I have the following conversation:

Me:     Thank you for calling Hotel, this is iridaceae how may I direct your call?
Them: Yeah, I need a room for tonight.
Me:     I'm sorry; we don't have any rooms available tonight.
Them: I just need one room.
Me:     Unfortunately we're sold out and don't have any rooms available.
Them: Not even one?
Me:     No; I'm sorry.
Them: Are you sure?

Some nights I get two or three calls like this.  I begin to feel as if I'm speaking Aramaic or something.

Maybe they're waiting for you to offer them a stable?

My boss once admitted he was tempted to keep a tent stashed around the place so he could say "well, we have a tent with no TV, bathroom or bed; will that work for you?"
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Thipu1 on December 26, 2011, 08:43:16 AM
The posts about Ontario made me remember another doozie.

Our library was sending a box of books to McGill University. The brilliant mailroom supervisor told us flat out that it was illegal to send anything weighing more than six pounds to Canada.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BabyMama on December 26, 2011, 09:35:36 AM
We were at my in-laws' yesterday for the holidays. FIL is a big hunter, and they were discussing hunting pheasants and what they tasted like. My 13-year-old nephew pipes up that he's heard alligator tastes like chicken. His mom said it does, but tougher. Cue nephew's disbelief that she's ever eaten alligator. She says she has, on vacation somewhere. Cousin says, "So, have you ever had fish?"  ??? I'm still trying to figure out if their diet is just that unvaried, or if he honestly has never had fish.  :P
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: goldilocks on December 26, 2011, 10:14:30 AM
Fried alligator is actually delicious, and not tough at all.

Anyway, on to the exchange.  I was at my first real job and filed my first tax return.  I was expecting a refund of 555.50, but instead received 55.50.    I called IRS and explained.

IRS:  Well, you must owe back taxes and they were taken out.
ME:  No, this is my first job, I've never paid taxes before.
IRS:  Well, you must have made a mistake in the return.
ME:  No, it's a simple form.  I should get all the taxes back, and it's $555.50.
IRS:  Well, it MUST be something.  The IRS DOES NOT make mistakes.
ME: .........

After several seconds of silence, he finally agreed to look into it and I eventually got my money.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: goldilocks on December 26, 2011, 10:19:50 AM
I work in the US.  Some days I help the receptionist with shipping.  I had a college intern who wanted to ship a package to Australia "ground" ... I called to tell her that eventually it was going to have to cross water . . .

One on myself -- when I was much younger my dad told me that my car needed to have the tires rotated.  I replied, "But they rotate every day."  And I meant it.  Needless to say, I'm no mechanic.


My company actually ships ground packages to Hawaii.  They travel by truck to a certain point, then board a ship.  Since it never gets on a plane, it's still technically "ground".
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Daffodil on December 26, 2011, 12:06:52 PM
I put a brand new iPhone for sale on kijiji. In my ad, I clearly stated this was brand new - never opened, and that I'm selling for what I paid, to save from sending it back to Apple, which was about $800. I don't think this is unreasonable, since the product was never touched. I listed in my add "$X.XX, non-negotiable and no trades."

Yet, (and this is the part that makes my head hurt) I had people emailing me, offering me an old snowmobile ('81), an old laptop, etc. I had one person email with "I have $500 in cash, and I can pick it up, tonight!" I nearly responded "LOL ! NO!" but then I stopped myself and just hit delete. Can people not read ? ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on December 26, 2011, 12:13:14 PM


I walked into a 5th grade math class once. The teacher was saying, "You never, ever, ever divide a large number into a small one!" OK. Maybe this is why we have so much trouble teaching math in middle and high school.

 


We had a huge blow up my 2nd year teaching. All the teachers invovled were either 3rd year or 2nd year teaching (so we didn't have a much supplemental materials of our own). The 5th grade teachers were having trouble with a concept in Fractions. The kids swore up and down they had never been introduced to the concept, but the book taught it like it had been introduced.


I went back to the curriculum and realized while book started the concept in 4th grade the state standards didn't start it till 5th. So the 4th grade teachers going by the curriculum had skipped that chapter.


I went to the other 5th grade teacher and showed her this. So problem solved. We could just ask the 4th grade teachers if we could borrow a few books and get copies of the blackline masters. The supplement with some stuff I had found and we could teach the concept. I would talk to the team leader the next day, because I was leaving right after the kids did to go to the doctor.


The next morning I walked into a hornets nest. Some busy body had over heard the other 5th grade teacher and I talking. She had gone with a twisted version that we had said they weren't teaching math to the 4th grade teachers.


Adding to the tensions the other 5th grade teacher and I had traditional licences. All but one of the 4th grade teachers were alternative certification canadiates/licenced. (I didn't know it at the time but the principal back then was treating alternative certification people very badly.)


The 4th grade teachers were angry. I managed to get them to listen to what I had actually said - that they weren't supposed to teach concept - but the book assumed they did so we just wanted to borrow the 4th grade materials on concept.


The tone changed very quickly and we actually went over the rest of the curriculum exchanging materials that the curriculum put in different grades. I brought up the whole telling kids we don't do X, when X is actually taught later in the curriculum. Now we say things like "In 2nd grade we don't subtract big numbers from little numbers. Or in 4th grade we don't put big numbers over littler numbers in fractions" The kids know that means they will do it in upper grades at some point.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Shopaholic on December 26, 2011, 12:50:16 PM
I think maybe I asked for it this time, but I recently took a pastry baking class.

The instructor, a pastry chef, was treaching us how to make a glaze:
"Just heat together sugar and water at a 1:1 ratio."
Me: "Is that weight or volume?"
Her: "What? If you take 1 cup of sugar, take 1 cup of water."
Me: "So it's volume then?"
Her: "If you take 1 kilo sugar, use 1 kilo water."
Me: "But that's not the same."
Her: "Yes it is. it's 1:1."
Me: "But is it 1:1 by weight or by volume? 1 cup of water weighs 250 grams."
Her: "Yes."
Me: "But 1 cup of sugar doesn't weigh 250 grams."
Her: "For 1 cup of water add 1 cup of sugar."
Me: "But ... weight and volume aren't the same."
Her: "What is it you don't understand?"
Me: "Nevermind..."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: PaintingPastelPrincess on December 26, 2011, 01:37:26 PM
I will say, I hate trying to decipher the ship to "ONTARIO CA" comments in the system at work because CA is both the country code for Canada and the state code for California and people don't always think a zip code is necessary.  The country, of course, is "obvious."  ::)

well, Ontario is a province. If they were shipping to our glorious province, they'd need a town or city! Were pretty big, so a package for Suzy in Ontario isn't going to get anywhere (and die a slow lonely death at the post office while postal workers mock it for not having a city.) But Ontario, CA is an actual specific place, no further refinement (except for postal zip thingy) needed. I'd be assuming everything labeled Ontario CA is for cali.

or are there a not-really surprisingly large number of people who think they can get away with sending something to Canada armed only with name and province (not even a postal code)?

I didn't explain myself well enough. I momentarily forgot that you all aren't my coworkers, nor in my industry, and don't automatically understand why this is frustrating.

When we're shipping to "Ontario," we use the nearby port codes of YYZ (for Toronto, if it's going to Canada) or LAX (for Los Angeles, if it's going to California).  This is industry standard.  Most of the documents will list out "Canada" or "California," or will have a zip code (US one are 5-digits, all numbers like 99123, while Canadian ones are 6-digit letters and numbers like Z1H 2Y3).  Or, they might have "Ontario, CA" for California (usually) and "Ontario, Ca." for Canada (usually).  It's nicest when they just put YYZ or LAX on the documents.  Less letters and perfect clarity.

Since our office handles shipments to the West Coast of the US, and all of Canada (or more, specifically, we route it to our Canadian offices), it's a common enough occurrence to be annoying.

No one in our office would try to ship something to "Ontario, Canada" and expect it to get there any more than they would send something to Montana, USA and except it not to end up lost. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on December 26, 2011, 01:52:17 PM


But most of my exchanges that make my brain hurt are with my 4-year-old.  She has a talent for asking the kind of questions that force me to answer, "Uh... I don't know.  I will have to ask Papa/look that up and get back to you."  Good thing I'm married to an engineer.


I think this is an excellent response. Kids need to know that knowledge is something we keep acquiring over our entire life times. I have many scientists and engineers in my family. I frequently send them questions from my students, when I don't know the answer.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: o_gal on December 26, 2011, 02:23:48 PM
One year, I needed to get a cake for a farewell celebration for the head of our church nursery. The closest bakery to me is in a Kroger store. I called them because I wanted to know if someone would be available on Sunday morning in the bakery to retrieve the cake from the refrigerator. I wanted it decorated with "We'll miss you" and all the first names of the current nursery kids. I didn't want it sitting in the fridge because no one came in to work bakery until later in the morning.

Me: Hi, I wanted to know whether I can order a cake to be made, and someone would be in the bakery at about 8:00am on Sunday morning just to pick it up.
Bakery Lady: Oh, we won't have anyone to make a cake on Sunday.
Me: No, I want to order it and have it made before Sunday, but just pick it up at 8 on Sunday.
BL: See, we can't make a cake on Sunday.
Me: So I can't order one earlier and just pick it up then?
BL: No, we only make cakes on other days, like Saturday.
Me: So can I order it to be made on Saturday?
BL: Sure, no problem.
Me: And then, would there be someone in the bakery at 8 on Sunday to give it to me?
BL: Sure, we can do that.

Found out later that they start working bakery at 5am on Sunday.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on December 26, 2011, 03:02:01 PM
I needed to find out information about filing a small claims suit, so I called the county number listed in the phone book under "Small Claims Court".  After I found out the procedure, she told me that I'd have to come in to get the paperwork, as she couldn't start it over the phone.

Me: OK, where do I go to?
Small Claims Clerk: Here.
Me: Where is here?
SCC: The court building
Me: Where is the court building?
SCC: On Ritchie Highway.
Me: Where on Ritchie Highway?  (Ritchie runs for about 20 miles between Baltimore and Annapolis.)
SCC: Near Fountain Blue. 
Me: Ok, what's the name of the building?
SCC: Name?  It doesn't have a name.
Me: It must have a name. How else can people find it?
SCC: No, it definitely doesn't have a name.
Me: ::)  Look, I'm not asking if it's name is Fred or James or Tom.  What is it called?
SCC: It's just the court building. It doesn't have a name.
Me: (http://www3.telus.net/smile/images/bangdesk.gif)  Ok.  Outside the court building there is a sign.  What does the sign say?  Does it say District Court, or County Court, or what?
SCC: Oh!  It says County Courthouse.
Me: Thank you. ::)

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Betelnut on December 26, 2011, 03:20:23 PM
At a family reunion where most of the "family" lives in Minnesota I was chatting with a distant cousin who I don't remember meeting before:

Me: So, where do you live?
DC: Minot (North Dakota).  Where do you live?
Me: Idaho.
DC: Is that in Minnesota or North Dakota?


To be perfectly fair, there are cities named after other states. I lived many years in Northwest Illinois, not far from cities named Oregon and Ohio.

Exactly.  I work near California, Maryland.  There is also a Hollywood, MD, nearby but that obviously isn't a state!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on December 26, 2011, 05:31:43 PM
Not to mention there's US cities named after foreign capitals.  Paris, Dublin, and those are the two off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: glacio on December 26, 2011, 05:32:43 PM
At a family reunion where most of the "family" lives in Minnesota I was chatting with a distant cousin who I don't remember meeting before:

Me: So, where do you live?
DC: Minot (North Dakota).  Where do you live?
Me: Idaho.
DC: Is that in Minnesota or North Dakota?


To be perfectly fair, there are cities named after other states. I lived many years in Northwest Illinois, not far from cities named Oregon and Ohio.

Exactly.  I work near California, Maryland.  There is also a Hollywood, MD, nearby but that obviously isn't a state!
This is a little different, but there's a really funny Not always Right entry about how every city in Europe (ok, but of an exaggeration but it doesn't feel like it) is represented at least once in America.

http://notalwaysright.com/giving-the-french-stick/10042

That customer would certainly make my head hurt.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mlkind1789 on December 26, 2011, 06:19:24 PM
Not to mention there's US cities named after foreign capitals.  Paris, Dublin, and those are the two off the top of my head.


There's a Mexico and a Peru in Indiana.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on December 26, 2011, 07:30:56 PM
Not to mention there's US cities named after foreign capitals.  Paris, Dublin, and those are the two off the top of my head.


There's a Mexico and a Peru in Indiana.

I went to college in Rome, Georgia. Most of the time when I say something about when I was in college in Rome, people think I mean Italy. I keep forgetting that so many people in Atlanta are transplants from other areas and don't know their way around Georgia very well.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on December 26, 2011, 08:19:56 PM
Then again many states share city names.  For example, there's a Hagerstown in Maryland and Indiana.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Danismom on December 26, 2011, 08:21:55 PM
Not to mention there's US cities named after foreign capitals.  Paris, Dublin, and those are the two off the top of my head.

You must be from TX where the old fashioned Dr. Pepper is made in Dublin and Paris, TX has this starring attraction:
http://www.planetware.com/picture/paris-us-tx164.htm (http://www.planetware.com/picture/paris-us-tx164.htm)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on December 26, 2011, 09:56:18 PM
Me: Where is the court building?
SCC: On Ritchie Highway.
Me: Where on Ritchie Highway?  (Ritchie runs for about 20 miles between Baltimore and Annapolis.)
SCC: Near Fountain Blue. 

This was *hilarious* to read, not only because of the conversation itself, but because I grew up right in that area and knew *exactly* what Ritchie Hwy and Fontaine Bleu you were talking about.  I even got my wedding dress in the building that houses Fontaine Bleu!  It's so strange when you're reading strangers' stories on the Internet and they live down the road.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: SheltieMom on December 26, 2011, 11:09:28 PM
I used to teach math. My first year, when we came to the unit on prime numbers, we talked about the definition, (any number greater than one, that is not evenly divisible by another number). This, of course, means that 0 and 1 are neither prime nor composite, and 2 is the first prime number.

My students informed me that 1 was prime and 2 was not, because all even numbers are composite. No matter how many books I showed them (this was pre-internet, but it wouldn't have mattered), they simply did not believe me. Why? Their science teacher told them so. This man walked around school with a cigar in his hand at all times. (Not lit, but I never saw him without it.) The kids hung on his every word, and frankly the teachers and administrators were too intimidated to challenge him. (There were other reasons why people were intimidated, but I can't go into those, as they involve his religion, and I don't want to open that can of worms!)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on December 26, 2011, 11:34:18 PM
Quote
You must be from TX where the old fashioned Dr. Pepper is made in Dublin

Eeeek! There's no period in that name! It's Dr Pepper.

(One way we can usually tell a native Texan and someone who's not from Texas! Native Texans cringe at that mistake! :D)



Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on December 26, 2011, 11:40:10 PM
I used to teach math. My first year, when we came to the unit on prime numbers, we talked about the definition, (any number greater than one, that is not evenly divisible by another number). This, of course, means that 0 and 1 are neither prime nor composite, and 2 is the first prime number.

My students informed me that 1 was prime and 2 was not, because all even numbers are composite. No matter how many books I showed them (this was pre-internet, but it wouldn't have mattered), they simply did not believe me. Why? Their science teacher told them so. This man walked around school with a cigar in his hand at all times. (Not lit, but I never saw him without it.) The kids hung on his every word, and frankly the teachers and administrators were too intimidated to challenge him. (There were other reasons why people were intimidated, but I can't go into those, as they involve his religion, and I don't want to open that can of worms!)

1 a prime?!  Come on now, everyone fluent in the One True Universal Language knows the basics of its alphabet:  2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Danismom on December 26, 2011, 11:59:28 PM
Quote
You must be from TX where the old fashioned Dr. Pepper is made in Dublin

Eeeek! There's no period in that name! It's Dr Pepper.

(One way we can usually tell a native Texan and someone who's not from Texas! Native Texans cringe at that mistake! :D)

How weird!  Born and raised Texas Girl -- joyfully never even lived outside our great state.  And I didn't realize that about DP.  I guess the Metroplex is far enough away from Dublin to water down that part of the education.  At least it wasn't covered in 7th grade Texas History.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on December 27, 2011, 12:01:56 AM
So that class really is taught everywhere here in the 7th grade? I wasn't sure if it was just my school district or if was a state-wide 7th grade thing. I still remember that class and my teacher. She was really nice. :)

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Danismom on December 27, 2011, 12:14:19 AM
I think it is state-wide.  My teacher was known for filling 2 huge chalkboards with notes every day.  Then when we would get to class, we would copy the notes which would take probably 2/3 of the class time. The rest of the time she would tell stories or lecture.  I remember the copious notes and her telling us to "press on".  Of course we learned the Pledge of Allegiance to the Texas Flag, the state bird, motto, tree, etc.  We also learned why the Texas flag is the only state flag that can be flown as high as the US flag and that we can secede from the US any time we darn well please.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Ms_Cellany on December 27, 2011, 08:47:06 AM
Not to mention there's US cities named after foreign capitals.  Paris, Dublin, and those are the two off the top of my head.

You must be from TX where the old fashioned Dr. Pepper is made in Dublin and Paris, TX has this starring attraction:
http://www.planetware.com/picture/paris-us-tx164.htm (http://www.planetware.com/picture/paris-us-tx164.htm)

Italy, Texas, is just south of Dallas.

A co-worker of mine and her fiance drove a bit north to get married, so they could tell folks they were married in Paris.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mlkind1789 on December 27, 2011, 09:14:26 AM
My mother relayed this to me after a conversation she had with my brother and his wife Christmas night.

BG- My oldest DD, she is 17 and a junior in high school, wants to be a pediatrician.  She has wanted to be one since she was 5 years old.  She has a short list of colleges already decided that includes Indiana University at Bloomington, University of Chicago and Tulane University.  Good schools with quality programs.  We aren't talking East Podunk University here.

My brother and his wife are definitely not the sharpest tools in the shed but don't realize that.  They think they are the next Stephen Hawking or Albert Einstein.  Just ask, they'll tell you how smart they are.  Heck, they might tell you even if you don't ask.  /end BG


My mother is here visiting for Christmas and gets a call from Brother on her cell phone.  Mom and I are sitting next to each other on the sofa so I can hear her part of the conversation and I hear "She wants to go to Tulane."  A pause as brother or his wife say something and then, "It's in New Orleans, she wants to go there because they have a good medical program.  She wants to be a doctor."  Another pause and then "Well, I don't know about that,"  and they hang up shortly after.

The next day my mother and I are talking and DD's college plans come up and my mother tells me "Your sister in law said to tell DD that community colleges have good medical programs"  with a huge smirk on her face.  My reply was "what?" and she repeats herself.  So again I say "What?"  She repeats herself again and we're both laughing by this time.  I told her "No, I heard what you said, I just don't know where she got her information."  Seriously?  Who puts Tulane and a community college on the same level?


*Don't get me wrong, community colleges are great, I went to one.  However, community college is not where you will get a pre-med degree at all, much less on a par with Tulane.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on December 27, 2011, 09:18:53 AM
Me: Where is the court building?
SCC: On Ritchie Highway.
Me: Where on Ritchie Highway?  (Ritchie runs for about 20 miles between Baltimore and Annapolis.)
SCC: Near Fountain Blue. 

This was *hilarious* to read, not only because of the conversation itself, but because I grew up right in that area and knew *exactly* what Ritchie Hwy and Fontaine Bleu you were talking about. I even got my wedding dress in the building that houses Fontaine Bleu! It's so strange when you're reading strangers' stories on the Internet and they live down the road.
Elfqueen used to work in that wedding dress shop!   ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: rose red on December 27, 2011, 09:33:06 AM
*Don't get me wrong, community colleges are great, I went to one.  However, community college is not where you will get a pre-med degree at all, much less on a par with Tulane.

My community college has a nursing program, but medical school for doctors?  No way.  Maybe SIL got confused since nurses are in the medical profession too.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: CuriousParty on December 27, 2011, 09:39:51 AM
Me: Where is the court building?
SCC: On Ritchie Highway.
Me: Where on Ritchie Highway?  (Ritchie runs for about 20 miles between Baltimore and Annapolis.)
SCC: Near Fountain Blue. 

This was *hilarious* to read, not only because of the conversation itself, but because I grew up right in that area and knew *exactly* what Ritchie Hwy and Fontaine Bleu you were talking about. I even got my wedding dress in the building that houses Fontaine Bleu! It's so strange when you're reading strangers' stories on the Internet and they live down the road.
Elfqueen used to work in that wedding dress shop!   ;D
I got a bridesmaid dress there lo so many years ago!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on December 27, 2011, 09:47:09 AM
So that class really is taught everywhere here in the 7th grade? I wasn't sure if it was just my school district or if was a state-wide 7th grade thing. I still remember that class and my teacher. She was really nice. :)



Soc Stud Curriculum tends to be
K - 3 Community type stuff
4th State History
5th Overview of US History Crossing of the Land bridge - Yesterday
6th Overview of World History
7th State History
8th US History main focus European Colonization - Civil War
9th US History Civil war - Yesterday
10th/11th World History/Geography
12th US Government/Economy
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hobish on December 27, 2011, 09:56:50 AM
*Don't get me wrong, community colleges are great, I went to one.  However, community college is not where you will get a pre-med degree at all, much less on a par with Tulane.

My community college has a nursing program, but medical school for doctors?  No way.  Maybe SIL got confused since nurses are in the medical profession too.

There are some that have pre-med.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: dietcokeofevil on December 27, 2011, 10:08:56 AM
I'm currently working in what was once a big conference room.  As a safety precaution, the light fixtures right in front of the doors have an emergency light that will come on whenever the power is off so that people are still able to find their way out of the room.  There's only a couple of us working in the room, so instead of turning on all the lights, we only turn on about half of them. 

The maintenance man came around and tried to tell us that if we lost power the emergency lights would not come on unless we had the switch turned on.  To test this he turned the light switch on, then turned off the circuit to show that the emergency lights came on. 

After a few minutes of trying to explain that the emergency lights can't be on the same circuit as the normal lights and that the switch has no bearing on it, I finally realized I didn't care enough to make him understand and just told him we'd leave those lights on.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Just Lori on December 27, 2011, 10:09:29 AM
*Don't get me wrong, community colleges are great, I went to one.  However, community college is not where you will get a pre-med degree at all, much less on a par with Tulane.

My community college has a nursing program, but medical school for doctors?  No way.  Maybe SIL got confused since nurses are in the medical profession too.

There are some that have pre-med.

I know a family of 17-year-olds (they are multiples) who did their first couple of years at the local community college and then transfered to a four-year school to finish their undergrad degrees.  (Actually, they transfered into one of the schools the OP's daughter is considering.)  It's a great option for families who want to save money on tuition without compromising their educations. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on December 27, 2011, 10:13:53 AM
So that class really is taught everywhere here in the 7th grade? I wasn't sure if it was just my school district or if was a state-wide 7th grade thing. I still remember that class and my teacher. She was really nice. :)



Soc Stud Curriculum tends to be
K - 3 Community type stuff
4th State History
5th Overview of US History Crossing of the Land bridge - Yesterday
6th Overview of World History
7th State History
8th US History main focus European Colonization - Civil War
9th US History Civil war - Yesterday
10th/11th World History/Geography
12th US Government/Economy
Yep, I remember "world history". ::)  Apparently there was a shortage of history teachers in Texas in the early 1970's, so my world history teacher was drafted over from the athletic department.  His method of "teaching" was to stand in front of the class and read the history textbook aloud.  :-\  Tests consisted of "fill in the blank" sentences from the book with a key word left out.

And in those days, "world history" meant "European history", with the exception of Ancient Egypt.  After 1066, that narrowed down to English history.  China, India, Japan were all dismissed with handwaving.  "Oh, they borrowed a few ideas from us, but they didn't influence us in any way."   ::)  Silk Road?
"What's that?"  Horsecollar?  "Oh, no, we invented that, and it wasn't important anyway".

And that drags it back to topic; nothing anyone could say or prove with other reference materials would negate the "teacher's" view that the book was the be-all and end-all of historical knowledge. The book said that dinosaurs were the first land animals, so by gawd, they were.  ::)  Concrete?  "Must be a modern invention, because the book didn't say anything about the Romans inventing it." There were numerous other errors and omissions of that sort, but they have receded into the mists of time and been forgotten.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: rose red on December 27, 2011, 10:41:41 AM
*Don't get me wrong, community colleges are great, I went to one.  However, community college is not where you will get a pre-med degree at all, much less on a par with Tulane.

My community college has a nursing program, but medical school for doctors?  No way.  Maybe SIL got confused since nurses are in the medical profession too.

There are some that have pre-med.

You're right.  There are so many community colleges in the US that I'm sure there are community colleges with pre-med classes.  Mine didn't, but they have the basic science courses that pre-med students need.  I was just trying to say that even if SIL was confused, it's not too strange to mention community college because they do have medical classes, even if it's not full on medical classes to get a doctor's license. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on December 27, 2011, 12:33:31 PM
or are there a not-really surprisingly large number of people who think they can get away with sending something to Canada armed only with name and province (not even a postal code)?

Well of course!  Letters addressed to "Santa, North Pole" get delivered, and Canada is practically at the North Pole anyway, so . . .
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hermanne on December 27, 2011, 12:35:36 PM
or are there a not-really surprisingly large number of people who think they can get away with sending something to Canada armed only with name and province (not even a postal code)?

Well of course!  Letters addressed to "Santa, North Pole" get delivered, and Canada is practically at the North Pole anyway, so . . .

There is a North Pole, Alaska. :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on December 27, 2011, 02:15:48 PM
or are there a not-really surprisingly large number of people who think they can get away with sending something to Canada armed only with name and province (not even a postal code)?

Well of course!  Letters addressed to "Santa, North Pole" get delivered, and Canada is practically at the North Pole anyway, so . . .

There is a North Pole, Alaska. :)
And Santa lives there.  I've seen his house!
(http://www.santaclaushouse.com/public/images/1970s_web.jpg)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on December 27, 2011, 02:37:40 PM
"Oh! You're from Illinois. Do you know my cousin?"
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: NyaChan on December 27, 2011, 02:46:46 PM
"Oh! You're from Illinois. Do you know my cousin?"

hahaha I get that too!  People somehow don't get that IL is a state, not a small town.  I especially love when it when I say I'm from IL and people go "Oh Chicago is a great city to live in!  You must love it!"  Well yes, I suppose it is a great city and I do love it, but I don't live there.  I live in one the other numerous cities in our state.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on December 27, 2011, 02:57:41 PM
"Oh! You're from Illinois. Do you know my cousin?"

hahaha I get that too!  People somehow don't get that IL is a state, not a small town.  I especially love when it when I say I'm from IL and people go "Oh Chicago is a great city to live in!  You must love it!"  Well yes, I suppose it is a great city and I do love it, but I don't live there.  I live in one the other numerous cities in our state.

I've probably been to Chicago maybe 20 times in my life despite living 40 miles away for 34 years, so it makes me laugh when people want to know about it. A great place to eat? Several thousand.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on December 27, 2011, 03:07:59 PM
Me: Where is the court building?
SCC: On Ritchie Highway.
Me: Where on Ritchie Highway?  (Ritchie runs for about 20 miles between Baltimore and Annapolis.)
SCC: Near Fountain Blue. 

This was *hilarious* to read, not only because of the conversation itself, but because I grew up right in that area and knew *exactly* what Ritchie Hwy and Fontaine Bleu you were talking about. I even got my wedding dress in the building that houses Fontaine Bleu! It's so strange when you're reading strangers' stories on the Internet and they live down the road.
Elfqueen used to work in that wedding dress shop!   ;D

So funny!  It would *really* be a small world if she were the person who helped me at the shop!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sirius on December 27, 2011, 03:12:05 PM
Had this discussion via chat with a niece, who is a college student in her early 20s: 

Niece:  Several paragraphs about how dumb most guys her age are and how most of them are only looking for one thing, and it isn't a degree.

Me:  Oh, they're not all like that.

Niece:  But Auntie!  You don't know what it's like to be young!

Me:  Niece, I was young once.  I wasn't born old.

Niece:  But you don't know what it's like to be young and pretty!  Mom says you're smart! 

I think someone needs to have a chat with my niece.  But not me - I'd be laughing too hard.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sirius on December 27, 2011, 03:17:03 PM
"Oh! You're from Illinois. Do you know my cousin?"

hahaha I get that too!  People somehow don't get that IL is a state, not a small town.  I especially love when it when I say I'm from IL and people go "Oh Chicago is a great city to live in!  You must love it!"  Well yes, I suppose it is a great city and I do love it, but I don't live there.  I live in one the other numerous cities in our state.

I've probably been to Chicago maybe 20 times in my life despite living 40 miles away for 34 years, so it makes me laugh when people want to know about it. A great place to eat? Several thousand.

I used to get the same thing about San Francisco.  I lived 60 miles away, and was there probably fewer than ten times in the 31 years I lived in the area. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: WhiteTigerCub on December 27, 2011, 03:19:18 PM
Conversation with my toxic Aunt Sophie recently:

Me: Help yourself to some apple cider
Aunt: That's alcoholic...you should know better than to serve that with alcoholics* around
Me: It's not alcohol, it's apple cider
Aunt: It's in a bottle that looks like ones alcohol comes in
Me: Points out "apple cider" on the bottle.
Aunt: It's alcohol
Me: It's apple juice with carbonation. No alcohol
Aunt: well it's going to make alcoholics want to drink.

*PA jab at my mother who is a recovering alcoholic

Note: aunt does not drink alcohol and thinks anyone who does is evil.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on December 27, 2011, 03:21:35 PM
Sirius and White Tiger Cub - after your two posts in rapid succession now MY brain hurts.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: amylouky on December 27, 2011, 03:31:18 PM
I've got one.. I went into a video store to try and find the movie "The Devil's Arithmetic", and had the following conversation:

Clerk: Can I help you find something?
Me: Yes, please.. I'm looking for "The Devil's Arithmetic"
Clerk: (blank stare)
Me: It stars Kirsten Dunst and Brittany Murphy?
Clerk: The What? (in tone that implied he thought I was an idiot)
Me (slower and more enunciated, but not condescendingly so): "The Devil's Arithmetic".
Clerk: The Devil's Ah-thu-thu-thu??? (Slurred together as if I were speaking gibberish)
Me (not my finest E-hell moment..):  Um. No.. A-rith-me-tic. You know, like.. math??

I had to tell him how to spell "arithmetic", so he could type it in his computer. Sad, really.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: magician5 on December 27, 2011, 03:33:46 PM
The several posts about ridiculous grade-school teachings on math reminded me of the classes in Virginia History (again and again and AGAIN) in my public schooling.

I knew this was nuts back then (1960s) but what does a kid say when the sweet little old lady teaching the class tells everyone that "many of the slaves did not want to be freed, and cried and cried and didn't know what they would do if they couldn't live with Ole Massa anymore"?

This was before the day when a kid could "call shenanigans" but I mark it as the beginning of the time when I started looking for more evidence that authority was not to be trusted. Oh, and wasn't that a time when there was evidence everywhere?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mabelle on December 27, 2011, 04:19:53 PM
To the poster above - I can assure you that by the 70s those lectures were not given in my Virginia history class.  :o

When I worked at a hotel at the oceanfront in Virginia Beach, I regularly was just plain confounded by folks' lack of geography/spatial relations. VB is on the EASTERN seaboard and our hotel faces due east. On the reservations line, we'd ask, "would you like an ocean front room or a land-side/west facing room?" and then get "Will I be able to see the sunset over the water?" from the potential guest. "No, not from our hotel."


See, this is why I don't eat the egg shells.  Much simpler than worrying about chicken butt.  ;D

Anyone else keeping thinking of that silly "Guess what?" / "Chicken butt!" bit by now?

I can't resist...my hubby does this whole dialogue with our 5 year old daughter almost daily - with both of them laughing hysterically:

Guess What? Chicken Butt!
Guess Why? Chicken thigh!
Guess When? Chicken Pen!
Guess Where? Chicken Hair!
Guess How? Chicken Cow!

DD response "you're silly, Daddy!"
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on December 27, 2011, 04:32:47 PM

I knew this was nuts back then (1960s) but what does a kid say when the sweet little old lady teaching the class tells everyone that "many of the slaves did not want to be freed, and cried and cried and didn't know what they would do if they couldn't live with Ole Massa anymore"?


Yes, and people suffering from Stockholm Syndrome should not be rescued because they like their captors just so dingdangity much  ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: onikenbai on December 27, 2011, 05:12:01 PM
Revenue Canada denied my tax claim for my ticket to my work place in Japan.  They couldn't find my tiny city on a map of Japan and therefore could not confirm that it was more than 40km outside of Canada...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Outdoor Girl on December 27, 2011, 05:19:07 PM
Revenue Canada denied my tax claim for my ticket to my work place in Japan.  They couldn't find my tiny city on a map of Japan and therefore could not confirm that it was more than 40km outside of Canada...

LOL

Not that I'm surprised...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on December 27, 2011, 05:34:09 PM

To the poster above - I can assure you that by the 70s those lectures were not given in my Virginia history class.  :o
Didn't get that nonsense in Texas schools either - no State Rights stuff as the cause either. Slavery was evil plain and simple
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Just Lori on December 27, 2011, 07:08:27 PM

To the poster above - I can assure you that by the 70s those lectures were not given in my Virginia history class.  :o
Didn't get that nonsense in Texas schools either - no State Rights stuff as the cause either. Slavery was evil plain and simple

I was a child in the '70s living in the northern US and I can remember my piano teacher - a retired elementary school music teacher - telling me about studies that proved nonwhites were not as smart as white people.  She insisted it was true, and said it was a shame the nonwhites did not believe the studies, because "we" could have helped "them."

Those sort of memories hurt my brain.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Baxter on December 27, 2011, 07:19:18 PM
My sister had this exchange with a co-worker (both of them in their late 20's)

Sister "Oh I think I just saw lightening, get ready for the thunder"
Co-worker "You idiot, thunder is caused by clouds banging together not lightening, you're so stupid"

and co-worker continued to make fun of my sister and her "stupid" ideas for the rest of the afternoon (sister came home with sprained eyeballs).
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: NyaChan on December 27, 2011, 07:33:16 PM
This thread actually makes me sad sometimes.  Even just watching The Magic School Bus would correct some of these "facts," and that show included a bus shrinking and traveling through the body of a student!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: snowfire on December 27, 2011, 07:48:39 PM
White Tiger Cub, I had almost that exact conversation with my Grandmother about 20 years ago.  She was a lifetime non-drinker, of the "alcohol is evil" school of thought.  We had invited some friends over for Thanksgiving dinner, including their ~3 year old toddler.  We were serving Martinelli's sparkling apple cider.  My Grandmother was absolutely convinced that not only was I serving wine, I was serving it to a CHILD.  :o :o :o

I'm still not sure I ever convinced her that it was just fancy apple juice.  I showed her the bottle, had her read the label.  Told her that even if I was serving wine, which I wouldn't do in front of her, that she ought to trust me enough to know that I would not give alcohol to a child.

Normally my GM and I had a fantastic relationship and she totally trusted me on everything, but for some reason this one bit of  ??? ??? just stuck in her head....
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on December 27, 2011, 08:03:03 PM
"Oh! You're from Illinois. Do you know my cousin?"

hahaha I get that too!  People somehow don't get that IL is a state, not a small town.  I especially love when it when I say I'm from IL and people go "Oh Chicago is a great city to live in!  You must love it!"  Well yes, I suppose it is a great city and I do love it, but I don't live there.  I live in one the other numerous cities in our state.

I've probably been to Chicago maybe 20 times in my life despite living 40 miles away for 34 years, so it makes me laugh when people want to know about it. A great place to eat? Several thousand.

I used to get the same thing about San Francisco.  I lived 60 miles away, and was there probably fewer than ten times in the 31 years I lived in the area.

I live in the greater Atlanta metro area, and my brother asked me once about my opinion of the recent mayoral election in the city of Atlanta. Me: "Oh yeah, they just had an election didn't they? Who won?" He still doesn't quite understand that downtown Atlanta is 45 minutes away and their local politics do not affect me at all.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: JustEstelle on December 27, 2011, 08:12:11 PM
Not to mention there's US cities named after foreign capitals.  Paris, Dublin, and those are the two off the top of my head.

You must be from TX where the old fashioned Dr. Pepper is made in Dublin and Paris, TX has this starring attraction:
http://www.planetware.com/picture/paris-us-tx164.htm (http://www.planetware.com/picture/paris-us-tx164.htm)

Italy, Texas, is just south of Dallas.

Nice little town too!  :)
A co-worker of mine and her fiance drove a bit north to get married, so they could tell folks they were married in Paris.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: JustEstelle on December 27, 2011, 08:24:40 PM


I live in the greater Atlanta metro area, and my brother asked me once about my opinion of the recent mayoral election in the city of Atlanta. Me: "Oh yeah, they just had an election didn't they? Who won?" He still doesn't quite understand that downtown Atlanta is 45 minutes away and their local politics do not affect me at all.

We live about a 45 minute drive from Dallas, and we have people all the time asking us about things that go on there.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kareng57 on December 27, 2011, 08:28:52 PM


I live in the greater Atlanta metro area, and my brother asked me once about my opinion of the recent mayoral election in the city of Atlanta. Me: "Oh yeah, they just had an election didn't they? Who won?" He still doesn't quite understand that downtown Atlanta is 45 minutes away and their local politics do not affect me at all.

We live about a 45 minute drive from Dallas, and we have people all the time asking us about things that go on there.


Actually I don't think that that's terribly out-of-this-world.  I too live in a suburb of Big City  - downtown is about a 1 hour drive away - but I still know something about what goes on there; the daily newspaper and TV/radio news are based from there.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Otterpop on December 27, 2011, 11:29:57 PM
I live 1 hour outside of Los Angeles.  What goes on there affects us.  I keep an eye out for daily goings on too.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on December 27, 2011, 11:38:31 PM
There was a person I knew who insisted that scientists could tell Da Vinci had a 4,000 IQ.

I don't even know.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on December 28, 2011, 12:03:30 AM
My sister had this exchange with a co-worker (both of them in their late 20's)

Sister "Oh I think I just saw lightening, get ready for the thunder"
Co-worker "You idiot, thunder is caused by clouds banging together not lightening, you're so stupid"

and co-worker continued to make fun of my sister and her "stupid" ideas for the rest of the afternoon (sister came home with sprained eyeballs).
I wonder if co-worker was told that as a small child, maybe by someone she trusted, and never wanted to know the truth, because that would mean that Trusted Adult had lied to her.

I remember my beloved grandpa telling me much the same thing, but when Teacher told us what caused thunder, thinking "I wonder why Grandpa didn't know this?" 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: twiggy on December 28, 2011, 12:26:36 AM
There was a person I knew who insisted that scientists could tell Da Vinci had a 4,000 IQ.

I don't even know.

That reminds me of a very special co-worker I once had. He claimed an IQ of around 700. When it was pointed out to him that IQ measurements don't go that high, he informed us that he scored 100% on his IQ test.

He also claimed to have trained his sister's cat to not shed.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: suzieQ on December 28, 2011, 01:33:00 AM
White Tiger Cub, I had almost that exact conversation with my Grandmother about 20 years ago.  She was a lifetime non-drinker, of the "alcohol is evil" school of thought.  We had invited some friends over for Thanksgiving dinner, including their ~3 year old toddler.  We were serving Martinelli's sparkling apple cider.  My Grandmother was absolutely convinced that not only was I serving wine, I was serving it to a CHILD.  :o :o :o

I'm still not sure I ever convinced her that it was just fancy apple juice.  I showed her the bottle, had her read the label.  Told her that even if I was serving wine, which I wouldn't do in front of her, that she ought to trust me enough to know that I would not give alcohol to a child.

Normally my GM and I had a fantastic relationship and she totally trusted me on everything, but for some reason this one bit of  ??? ??? just stuck in her head....

Did you point out it was *not* Hard Cider? I think of apple cider as just being juice, but I know a lot of people who think apple cider is always *hard* cider, which does contain alcohol.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on December 28, 2011, 02:36:24 AM
White Tiger Cub, I had almost that exact conversation with my Grandmother about 20 years ago.  She was a lifetime non-drinker, of the "alcohol is evil" school of thought.  We had invited some friends over for Thanksgiving dinner, including their ~3 year old toddler.  We were serving Martinelli's sparkling apple cider.  My Grandmother was absolutely convinced that not only was I serving wine, I was serving it to a CHILD.  :o :o :o

I'm still not sure I ever convinced her that it was just fancy apple juice.  I showed her the bottle, had her read the label.  Told her that even if I was serving wine, which I wouldn't do in front of her, that she ought to trust me enough to know that I would not give alcohol to a child.

Normally my GM and I had a fantastic relationship and she totally trusted me on everything, but for some reason this one bit of  ??? ??? just stuck in her head....

Did you point out it was *not* Hard Cider? I think of apple cider as just being juice, but I know a lot of people who think apple cider is always *hard* cider, which does contain alcohol.

In British usage, "cider" is always alcoholic.  "Juice" is not.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BabyMama on December 28, 2011, 09:57:42 AM
That reminds me of a very special co-worker I once had. He claimed an IQ of around 700. When it was pointed out to him that IQ measurements don't go that high, he informed us that he scored 100% on his IQ test.

I remember sitting in class in high school. Two girls were discussing our recently-delivered ACT scores. One of their friends scored a 17 (highest score you can get is 36.) They were stunned at his score--it was "sooooo high", and he was the "smartest person they knew."  :-\

I also remember a girl in my American Studies class asking "who is that on the TV?" It was Vice President Cheney. "Oh," she said. "I thought he'd be hotter."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on December 28, 2011, 10:00:05 AM
That reminds me of a very special co-worker I once had. He claimed an IQ of around 700. When it was pointed out to him that IQ measurements don't go that high, he informed us that he scored 100% on his IQ test.

I remember sitting in class in high school. Two girls were discussing our recently-delivered ACT scores. One of their friends scored a 17 (highest score you can get is 36.) They were stunned at his score--it was "sooooo high", and he was the "smartest person they knew."  :-\

I also remember a girl in my American Studies class asking "who is that on the TV?" It was Vice President Cheney. "Oh," she said. "I thought he'd be hotter."

Blahah!  :P
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BusyBee on December 28, 2011, 10:22:37 AM
Me: Hi, I wanted to know whether I can order a cake to be made, and someone would be in the bakery at about 8:00am on Sunday morning just to pick it up.
Bakery Lady: Oh, we won't have anyone to make a cake on Sunday.
Me: No, I want to order it and have it made before Sunday, but just pick it up at 8 on Sunday.
BL: See, we can't make a cake on Sunday.
Me: So I can't order one earlier and just pick it up then?
BL: No, we only make cakes on other days, like Saturday.
Me: So can I order it to be made on Saturday?
BL: Sure, no problem.
Me: And then, would there be someone in the bakery at 8 on Sunday to give it to me?
BL: Sure, we can do that.

Found out later that they start working bakery at 5am on Sunday.

Same thing, but with balloons.  The party store had time-slots for balloon orders and they were all full for Saturday except for very late in the day.  I understand that latex ballons only last a few hours, but mine are all mylar and they'll last for a week.  Can you blow them up on Friday and I'll pick them up the next morning?  No, we can't do that.  I explained to both the cashier and the manager, who finally agreed but weren't really convinced that it was possible.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on December 28, 2011, 10:26:03 AM
Today's Cakewrecks post (http://www.cakewrecks.com/home/2011/12/28/a-star-is-born.html) made me think of this thread :P
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MyFamily on December 28, 2011, 10:51:07 AM
So, I had one last night at Wal-mart.  I need to order a welcome poster for a fundraising event I'm co-chairing, and in the past we've done it through Wal-Mart.com.  The size is right, the price is good and they do a good printing job.  But their server is broken and we can't do it on-line, so I went into the store. 

First, the employee tried to tell me they couldn't print something like that, even as I'm pointing to the line on their sign that says that they can do this; then their in-store computer didn't like my cd or my flash drive (both had the images and yes, this involved multiple trips to the store) because "sometimes it just doesn't like certain flash drives or cds or memory cards".  So, then I asked her well, how can you help me?  And she just looked at me.  I finally asked her "so you are advertising a service you can't provide" and she said "yep".

Seriously, at that point I just couldn't say anything else, so I just walked away.  I'm hoping that the item I ordered on-line at target.com will be just as nice.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: prairie_dances on December 28, 2011, 11:14:05 AM
First, the employee tried to tell me they couldn't print something like that, even as I'm pointing to the line on their sign that says that they can do this; then their in-store computer didn't like my cd or my flash drive (both had the images and yes, this involved multiple trips to the store) because "sometimes it just doesn't like certain flash drives or cds or memory cards".  So, then I asked her well, how can you help me?  And she just looked at me.  I finally asked her "so you are advertising a service you can't provide" and she said "yep".

I had the same problem with Walmart. I went to the store to order one of their photo books. I used the kiosk they have but when I went to counter the cashier looked at me like I had ten heads and said, "Oh, we can't do that here". I asked her why then do they have the sign up saying they provide photo book etc services and why the kiosk let me go through the whole process and she just shrugged and said again that they don't do that there.

I ended up ordering a photo book on Shutterfly.com.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: WhiteTigerCub on December 28, 2011, 11:16:44 AM
White Tiger Cub, I had almost that exact conversation with my Grandmother about 20 years ago.  She was a lifetime non-drinker, of the "alcohol is evil" school of thought.  We had invited some friends over for Thanksgiving dinner, including their ~3 year old toddler.  We were serving Martinelli's sparkling apple cider.  My Grandmother was absolutely convinced that not only was I serving wine, I was serving it to a CHILD.  :o :o :o

I'm still not sure I ever convinced her that it was just fancy apple juice.  I showed her the bottle, had her read the label.  Told her that even if I was serving wine, which I wouldn't do in front of her, that she ought to trust me enough to know that I would not give alcohol to a child.

Normally my GM and I had a fantastic relationship and she totally trusted me on everything, but for some reason this one bit of  ??? ??? just stuck in her head....

Did you point out it was *not* Hard Cider? I think of apple cider as just being juice, but I know a lot of people who think apple cider is always *hard* cider, which does contain alcohol.


In British usage, "cider" is always alcoholic.  "Juice" is not.

My Aunt Sophie isn't aware of the British meaning of cider.  It was merely the shape of the bottle she was focused on. I even offered her some to try so she could see it was merely apple juice but she refused. I believe it even says right on the bottle 'non-alcoholic'. She is not aware either of the US laws that state alcoholic beverages must have the % of alcoholic content clearly written on it.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Virg on December 28, 2011, 12:17:53 PM
twiggy wrote:

"That reminds me of a very special co-worker I once had. He claimed an IQ of around 700. When it was pointed out to him that IQ measurements don't go that high, he informed us that he scored 100% on his IQ test.  He also claimed to have trained his sister's cat to not shed."

See, if someone said that to me, I'd think he was intentionally pulling my leg.  It's too Monty Python for me to take it seriously.  I can definitely see John Cleese saying this to someone in all seriousness.

Virg
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: selkiewoman on December 28, 2011, 12:39:37 PM
My son's history teacher in HS was also recruited from the athletic department.  He believed that Bloody Mary and Mary, Queen of Scots were the same person, and became quite irate when my son pointed out he was wrong.  (Probably should not have brought that up in class, but I don't think addressing it in private would have done any good either.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on December 28, 2011, 12:55:59 PM
My son's history teacher in HS was also recruited from the athletic department.  He believed that Bloody Mary and Mary, Queen of Scots were the same person, and became quite irate when my son pointed out he was wrong.  (Probably should not have brought that up in class, but I don't think addressing it in private would have done any good either.)

They were both Catholic, but that's about it. I'm embarrassed for that teacher if he's truly that clueless.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: PaintingPastelPrincess on December 28, 2011, 01:16:32 PM
Today's Cakewrecks post (http://www.cakewrecks.com/home/2011/12/28/a-star-is-born.html) made me think of this thread :P
That was...oh wow... ;D My brain hurts.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jedikaiti on December 28, 2011, 01:22:05 PM
My son's history teacher in HS was also recruited from the athletic department.  He believed that Bloody Mary and Mary, Queen of Scots were the same person, and became quite irate when my son pointed out he was wrong.  (Probably should not have brought that up in class, but I don't think addressing it in private would have done any good either.)

They were both Catholic, but that's about it. I'm embarrassed for that teacher if he's truly that clueless.

I've actually seen that several times, all from people who know little of British history in that time beyond Henry VIII and his fondness for dispensing with wives. They *might* know that he had a daughter who was a virgin.

None of these people, however, are trying to teach history, or have any particular need to know much about Tudor-era history.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: afbluebelle on December 28, 2011, 01:39:53 PM
or are there a not-really surprisingly large number of people who think they can get away with sending something to Canada armed only with name and province (not even a postal code)?

Well of course!  Letters addressed to "Santa, North Pole" get delivered, and Canada is practically at the North Pole anyway, so . . .

There is a North Pole, Alaska. :)
And Santa lives there.  I've seen his house!
(http://www.santaclaushouse.com/public/images/1970s_web.jpg)

On a cold winter night, myself and some of my drunken cohorts plotted out how to free Santa's reindeer. We even had the appropriate tools to do away with the oppressive cages! Thankfully, we forgot to acquire a DD... Later visits would prove that Dancer and Prancer and all them guys are fat and happy where they are  ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: siamesecat2965 on December 28, 2011, 02:01:22 PM
One from a friend of my brother.

Student goes to a college bar post last final exam to celebrate (is a senior and of legal drinking age). Bouncer will not accept his driver's license as proof of age because is it "obviously" a fake. Student shows that ID name/picture matches his student ID-no dice. Bouncer says that even it that is true, they don't have to accept said license because it is an out of state license and legally the bar only has to accept licenses from *this state* and states that touch *this state*.

This state is Missouri, Student is from Nebraska. Student goes to college library, checks out atlas, returns to bar and asks for a manager.

I had a similar issue when I turned 21.  In NJ, you used tobe able to get a paper license, with no photo.  As i was in college, I would renew my license by mail, and it was good for 2-3 years.  So the year before i turned 21, I renewed, and as soon as I turned 21, and was home for Christmas (my bday is in Dec too) I hightailed it to the DMV to get one WITH a photo, which was so much easier as I went to school out of state, and they always looked at my license with suspician.

It didn't help that I did, and still do, look VERY young for my age.  Also, becasue it wasn't time for me to renew my license, it was stamped with "duplicate" as I was simply replacing an already non-expired license, rather than renewing it.

So I'm home for the summer, and my friend and I are at a bar, and the bartender gave me a really hard time about the fact my license said duplicate, and the fact I looked about 14.  now I could see if I was at school, out of state, where they might not know that NJ also had the paper license option, but this was IN NJ, and she really should have known better.  She finally gave in, but not without a lot of back and forth.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Bookgirl on December 28, 2011, 04:10:24 PM
Most of my conversations with my 4 1/2 yo DS make my brain hurt.   ;)

Kid logic, you've gotta love it.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Just Lori on December 28, 2011, 06:02:49 PM
Most of my conversations with my 4 1/2 yo DS make my brain hurt.   ;)

Kid logic, you've gotta love it.

I was just asking my husband why kids seem to lose all their intelligence when puberty hits.  It's like their brains are overcome by hormones, pushing aside any last bits of common sense....
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Tsaiko on December 28, 2011, 07:54:31 PM
This conversation didn't even happen to me, and it makes my brain hurt. The two participants are friend and friend's co-worker (FCW). An important bit of info. GIS = Geographic Information Systems

FCW: I'm taking classes in GIS. I'll have a certificate soon.
Friend: I have a degree in GIS. What are you learning about?
FCW: Last week we learned that the world has 360 degrees west and 360 degrees east. So it's 720 degrees total all the way around.
Friend: What?
FCW: Isn't that cool?
Friend: If you go 360 degrees east or west you'll wind up back where you started. The world is only 360 degrees round. In fact any circle shape is only 360 degrees around.
FCW: You're wrong. There's 360 degrees west and 360 degrees east.
Friend: Why don't you ask your professor to be sure.
FCW: I will and you'll see I was right.

She wasn't.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on December 28, 2011, 09:47:01 PM
Not to mention there's US cities named after foreign capitals.  Paris, Dublin, and those are the two off the top of my head.

You must be from TX where the old fashioned Dr. Pepper is made in Dublin and Paris, TX has this starring attraction:
http://www.planetware.com/picture/paris-us-tx164.htm (http://www.planetware.com/picture/paris-us-tx164.htm)

Nah, was born in Va. and raised in Maryland! :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on December 28, 2011, 11:38:27 PM
I may misquote this a bit, since it's been a while, but a few years ago I was chatting with some guildmates (online) in World of Warcraft.  These are people I know by voice and *maybe* by the general part of the world they live in, but nobody knew each other outside of the game.  I don't remember how we got on the topic, but someone mentioned he was from Canada, and that set one particular guy ranting about ice fishing.

Weird Guy: "So I had this great idea for ice fishing!  You get some hot water, right?  And you pour it on the ice.  You can melt a hole through the ice and you won't even have to use a drill!"

Canadian Guy: "Err, that's an interesting idea, but since water freezes at zero degrees either way I don't think it would work."

Weird Guy: [LONG pause] "Dude!  Canada must be a lot colder than the US!  Water freezes at 32 degrees here!"

Everyone else on the guild chat: ". . ."

(Sad to say, he was serious.  Some guildies later convinced him that Australia was a suburb of Atlanta.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on December 29, 2011, 01:26:09 AM
Some (most? all?) of these stories make me fear for the future and the people who will one day be running things that affect me.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: StarDrifter on December 29, 2011, 04:23:13 AM
Random Friend-of-a-friend on Facebook started this exchange on my Wall the other day. This Random Friend-of-a-friend (RFOF) lives in the US, I think (from her profile and the friend she is friends with) that she lives somewhere in the north-east, in one of the tiny states up there)

RFOF: You live in Australia, right?
Me: (where is this going?) Right.
RFOF: It doesn't snow there, does it?
Me: Not everywhere, but up in the mountains it does, during winter.
RFOF: But it's hot during Christmas in Australia, right?
Me: Yes, because Christmas is in summer.
RFOF: Then how can it snow?
Me: What do you mean? It snows in winter, in the middle of the year, up in the mountains down in New South Wales, Victoria and Tasmania. Here. *I inserted a Google Map link to south-eastern Australia with blue marks on where it snows*
RFOF: But if it's hot at Christmas how can you get snow?
Me: ? Again, what do you mean?
RFOF: Well, it only snows at Christmastime, and your Christmas is hot, so how can you get snow?

At this point I gave up, because (thankfully) the link-friend stepped in and explained to her about the reversed seasons. Apparently RFOF is still confused about how we get snow at a time of year that isn't Christmas.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: zyrs on December 29, 2011, 06:32:32 AM
This conversation was reported to me by a friend many years ago, so I don't know if I have it right.  This is between friend and friend's co-worker.

FCW:  Hey, I just watched "Blair Witch Project" last night.
F:  I've heard that is a pretty good movie.
FCW:  I watched the DVD a few times and I'm pretty sure I know who the killer is.
F:  Okay.
FCW:  Yeah, I'm going to call the FBI's local office after work.

Moment of silence as friend stares at co-worker, processing what they have just heard.

Friend: You understand that that was just a movie, right?  With actors and all that?  They didn't release evidence in a murder into theaters.

FCW:  Yes they did!  And I bet there is a reward.

Friend:  No, it was a made up movie - there have been interviews with the director and the actors, including the supposedly dead ones.

FCW:  I don't believe you.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Hijinks on December 29, 2011, 09:00:25 AM
Quote
<snip>
OK is the halfmoon part of you fingernail the size of a pea? I held while she got a pea. 
<snip>

Still reading through this thread, but the bolded above made me laugh so hard.  Bwahahahaha!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Virg on December 29, 2011, 10:35:24 AM
Slartibartfast, I have to admit that I was laughing about your story, because I've run into people who couldn't get a handle on different temperature scales myself.  That said, I'm wondering why Canadian Guy would bother about Weird Guy's idea.  It would be very inefficient, but if you had enough hot water and took the time to do it, you could melt a hole to fish in.  I'd have told weird guy to give it a shot and let him see how slow it would be.

And zyrs, keep in mind that the creators of The Blair Witch Project actually set out to create a work in the line of War of the Worlds with real life news reports and everything leading up to its release.  It doesn't surprise me to find at least some people who didn't realize that it was wholly fiction.  In fact, for a very short time after I heard of it (but before I saw it), I didn't realise it wasn't a regular news report about a crime many years ago that had been repeated in the present day.

Virg
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: rose red on December 29, 2011, 10:53:41 AM
Who did he think the Blair Witch killer is?  The guy who "disappeared" in the middle of the movie to trick the other two so he can kill them?   >:D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Hillia on December 29, 2011, 11:13:41 AM
BIL prides himself on his vocabulary and overall geniusness, because he is a JOURNALIST who graduated from COLLEGE (I totally messed up his superiority when I married DH, because now BIL is not the only family member to have graduated from college).

Anyway, when we visited DH's grandma over Thanksgiving, BIL picked up her Bible and was leafing through it - the conversation wasn't about him, so couldn't be important - and came upon a description of some people behaving 'wilily'.  He read it out loud as 'willily' - 'that means willy-nilly, you know'.

Yeah.  Cause the King James Bible always talks about people behaving 'willy-nilly'.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on December 29, 2011, 11:53:33 AM
Random Friend-of-a-friend on Facebook started this exchange on my Wall the other day. This Random Friend-of-a-friend (RFOF) lives in the US, I think (from her profile and the friend she is friends with) that she lives somewhere in the north-east, in one of the tiny states up there)

RFOF: You live in Australia, right?
Me: (where is this going?) Right.
RFOF: It doesn't snow there, does it?
Me: Not everywhere, but up in the mountains it does, during winter.
RFOF: But it's hot during Christmas in Australia, right?
Me: Yes, because Christmas is in summer.
RFOF: Then how can it snow?
Me: What do you mean? It snows in winter, in the middle of the year, up in the mountains down in New South Wales, Victoria and Tasmania. Here. *I inserted a Google Map link to south-eastern Australia with blue marks on where it snows*
RFOF: But if it's hot at Christmas how can you get snow?
Me: ? Again, what do you mean?
RFOF: Well, it only snows at Christmastime, and your Christmas is hot, so how can you get snow?

At this point I gave up, because (thankfully) the link-friend stepped in and explained to her about the reversed seasons. Apparently RFOF is still confused about how we get snow at a time of year that isn't Christmas.

I can't really blame Babybartfast for making my brain hurt, since that's part of being a toddler :P but it very rarely snows down here.  Last year we got one big snow - on Christmas day.  (Many of the locals said that's the only "white Christmas" they can remember.)  So Babybartfast - then age 2 1/2 - figured that every time it snows, it must be Christmas!  We then went to visit my parents in Wisconsin in March, where they still had a foot and a half of snow.  Every morning Babybartfast woke up, saw the snow, and got all excited because it was CHRISTMAS!  Sadly, it took her most of the week to stop being disappointed every day  :-\
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hermanne on December 29, 2011, 12:46:11 PM
Slartibartfast, that is so cute!

DD is 4.5, and she still says "It's Christmas!" during snowfalls. (We're in NJ, so we get several snowfalls every winter.)

The most amusing was during the freak snowstorm we got on Halloween weekend. Our scarecrow and pumpkins were getting covered with the white stuff, and DD announces "It's Christmas!"

Not yet, hon. :-*
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on December 29, 2011, 01:03:02 PM
Both the kids and the "how-can-it-snow-in-summer" guy would be puzzled by snowfall in what is nominally summer in the US...

I used to live in a tiny little mountain town in California, at 7000 feet elevation.  I saw snow as early as the last week of August, and as late as mid-June.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on December 29, 2011, 01:10:41 PM
My kids were more crushed by the opposite.  "Mommy, it's Christmas!  How can it be Christmas without snow?"  And then, now that Christmas is over... "Is it spring now?"  "No, sweetie, winter just started."  "But we had Christmas, and there was no snow, so now it's time for spring!"  <sigh>  I'm reading them a Berenstain Bears book that talks about winter as "January, February, and March," so maybe that will get things straight.  We're in a region that ought to get at least a few good snows this winter.

Hillia, I will have to profess my ignorance as to the meaning of wililly.  I wouldn't assume willy-nilly, though.  :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Giraffe, Esq on December 29, 2011, 01:19:32 PM
Hillia, I will have to profess my ignorance as to the meaning of wililly.  I wouldn't assume willy-nilly, though.  :)

Something to do with "wily," perhaps?  At least, that was my guess.  So wily like a fox, not willy-nilly like a headless chicken.  :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Hillia on December 29, 2011, 01:23:33 PM
Hillia, I will have to profess my ignorance as to the meaning of wililly.  I wouldn't assume willy-nilly, though.  :)

Something to do with "wily," perhaps?  At least, that was my guess.  So wily like a fox, not willy-nilly like a headless chicken.  :)

That's it.  The people in question had disguised themselves and were talking to someone else in a wily (ie sly, clever) way.

He had never heard the word, and was astonished at the connection to Wile E. Coyote.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on December 29, 2011, 01:26:43 PM
I wasn't familiar with the word either. So I looked it up.


wilily (adv.)
1.in a malign and evil manner

An example would be in Joshua 9:4

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Hillia on December 29, 2011, 01:34:57 PM
I wasn't familiar with the word either. So I looked it up.


wilily (adv.)
1.in a malign and evil manner

An example would be in Joshua 9:4

That's exactly the verse!  BIL flipped to it because DH's name is Joshua and his birthday is 9/4.

I had never heard specifically 'malign and evil'...more in the 'sneaky, sly, crafty' sense. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hobish on December 29, 2011, 01:39:51 PM
Hillia, I will have to profess my ignorance as to the meaning of wililly.  I wouldn't assume willy-nilly, though.  :)

Something to do with "wily," perhaps?  At least, that was my guess.  So wily like a fox, not willy-nilly like a headless chicken.  :)

That's it.  The people in question had disguised themselves and were talking to someone else in a wily (ie sly, clever) way.

He had never heard the word, and was astonished at the connection to Wile E. Coyote.

Oh, yeah, good ol' Willy Coyote ... wonder why he didn't just go by Bill...
 :P
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on December 29, 2011, 01:55:56 PM
It's amazing the vocabulary you can learn by reading the Bible and real literature.  I'm going to have to explain "naissance" and "numeral" to my 4-year-old.  Maybe your BIL needs to do a bit more reading himself.  :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on December 29, 2011, 05:43:15 PM
Both the kids and the "how-can-it-snow-in-summer" guy would be puzzled by snowfall in what is nominally summer in the US...

I used to live in a tiny little mountain town in California, at 7000 feet elevation.  I saw snow as early as the last week of August, and as late as mid-June.

As a frequent visitor to Trail Ridge Road (Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado, USA), I've seen.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: JolieFille on December 29, 2011, 07:21:36 PM
This thread reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend back in high school.

We were talking, and I mentioned that I was excited for something that either my boyfriend or his family or something had mailed to me. My boyfriend and his family are Canadian and live obviously in Canada.

Friend: How do they mail things in Canada? Do they have post offices like we do?
Me:  :o *almost falling of stool* Yes Friend, they have post offices. I believe it's just called Canada Post, just like how we have the United States Postal Service.
Friend: Oh. Right. Yeah they'd have to have post offices.
Me: I'm pretty sure they use UPS and FedEx too, but everything I've ever gotten just comes in a standard Canada Post box.
Friend: *genuine excitement about this and subject change*

It's the first and hopefully last time I'll be asked if another country has post offices. And my friend was completely serious too.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Amava on December 29, 2011, 07:29:23 PM
This thread reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend back in high school.

We were talking, and I mentioned that I was excited for something that either my boyfriend or his family or something had mailed to me. My boyfriend and his family are Canadian and live obviously in Canada.

Friend: How do they mail things in Canada? Do they have post offices like we do?
Me:  :o *almost falling of stool* Yes Friend, they have post offices. I believe it's just called Canada Post, just like how we have the United States Postal Service.
Friend: Oh. Right. Yeah they'd have to have post offices.
Me: I'm pretty sure they use UPS and FedEx too, but everything I've ever gotten just comes in a standard Canada Post box.
Friend: *genuine excitement about this and subject change*

It's the first and hopefully last time I'll be asked if another country has post offices. And my friend was completely serious too.

Ah, here in Belgium we still send all our mail with pigeons.
Even our email.
 ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mechtilde on December 29, 2011, 07:31:36 PM
See, this is why I don't eat the egg shells.  Much simpler than worrying about chicken butt.  ;D

Anyone else keeping thinking of that silly "Guess what?" / "Chicken butt!" bit by now?

Perhaps slightly O/T, but my MIL was convinced that eating even the smallest amount of eggshell would make you ill!

Back on topic- I once had a chat with a girl from Jarrow about history (it just came up in conversation). Now Jarrow has the third oldest church in England, and was the home of the Venerable Bede. She told me- in all seriousness that the local monastry buildings were in ruins because they had been bombed by the Vikings.

8th Century high explosives. Who knew? I'm not sure that she quite believed me when I tried to explain that was a bit unlikely...

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on December 29, 2011, 07:41:12 PM
Regarding snow not at Christmas, where I live, what little snow we get is almost always in February and March. We got an inch on Christmas night last year, the first white Christmas in a century. My kids wondered if we'd have another white Christmas, and I told them that unless they move to another part of the country, they'll probably never see another one.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: zyrs on December 29, 2011, 08:26:13 PM
Who did he think the Blair Witch killer is?  The guy who "disappeared" in the middle of the movie to trick the other two so he can kill them?   >:D

My friend did not ask him; They were too blown away that anyone would believe that the FBI had released the "video found at the scene" in national theaters.  They thought it was a marketing gimmick on the level of "based on a true story" was a marketing gimmick for the 'return of the living dead" movies.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: magician5 on December 29, 2011, 08:37:10 PM
This thread reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend back in high school.

We were talking, and I mentioned that I was excited for something that either my boyfriend or his family or something had mailed to me. My boyfriend and his family are Canadian and live obviously in Canada.

Friend: How do they mail things in Canada? Do they have post offices like we do?
Me:  :o *almost falling of stool* Yes Friend, they have post offices. I believe it's just called Canada Post, just like how we have the United States Postal Service.
Friend: Oh. Right. Yeah they'd have to have post offices.
Me: I'm pretty sure they use UPS and FedEx too, but everything I've ever gotten just comes in a standard Canada Post box.
Friend: *genuine excitement about this and subject change*

It's the first and hopefully last time I'll be asked if another country has post offices. And my friend was completely serious too.

Your friend was probably basing his/her opinion on those mud huts y'all live in. And, of course, Canadian letter carriers get pretty good at dodging the vicious jungle animals that roam the streets of Montreal.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kethria on December 29, 2011, 08:40:38 PM
Who did he think the Blair Witch killer is?  The guy who "disappeared" in the middle of the movie to trick the other two so he can kill them?   >:D

My friend did not ask him; They were too blown away that anyone would believe that the FBI had released the "video found at the scene" in national theaters.  They thought it was a marketing gimmick on the level of "based on a true story" was a marketing gimmick for the 'return of the living dead" movies.

I live about 60 miles from Burkittsville MD. When that movie came out and they said that Burkittsville was built on the site that Blair used to be, people kept going to Burkittsville and stealing the signs that had the name of the town on there. People would NOT believe it was fake. I personally got into several discussions with people who swore up and down it was real. Nevermind when I pointed out other movies that the actors had made. It was real and they were driving there to get the real story from those poor poor people who are probably cursing the day the previews started showing in the theaters.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: SCAJAfamily on December 29, 2011, 09:56:24 PM
This is only cute because the person I was talking to was 4 at the time, my son A.

A:

I want to go outside (looking out the back door).

Me: 

You can't it's raining out there.

A:

Oh, I guess I'll go out front then.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Adelaide on December 29, 2011, 10:05:38 PM
My grandpa is really racist, and Barack Obama is the President. I don't think any other explanation is required.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on December 29, 2011, 10:21:30 PM
Just this evening went round and round with DH.  He swore up, down, and sideways that Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were all lumped together as part of the UK.   He just could not wrap his head around the notion of them being independent countries if they still had the Queen as their titular head.  Commonwealth = UK in his mind. Feel free to ::).
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: oz diva on December 30, 2011, 12:35:49 AM
Friend: How do they mail things in Canada? Do they have post offices like we do?
Me:  :o *almost falling of stool* Yes Friend, they have post offices. I believe it's just called Canada Post, just like how we have the United States Postal Service.
Friend: Oh. Right. Yeah they'd have to have post offices.
Me: I'm pretty sure they use UPS and FedEx too, but everything I've ever gotten just comes in a standard Canada Post box.
Friend: *genuine excitement about this and subject change*

It's the first and hopefully last time I'll be asked if another country has post offices. And my friend was completely serious too.

Ah, here in Belgium we still send all our mail with pigeons.
Even our email.
 ;D

Not owls?  8)

Just this evening went round and round with DH.  He swore up, down, and sideways that Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were all lumped together as part of the UK.   He just could not wrap his head around the notion of them being independent countries if they still had the Queen as their titular head.  Commonwealth = UK in his mind. Feel free to ::).

But if that was the case, how could we compete (and in Australia's case win) the Commonwealth Games?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Talley on December 30, 2011, 12:58:28 AM
Just this evening went round and round with DH.  He swore up, down, and sideways that Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were all lumped together as part of the UK.   He just could not wrap his head around the notion of them being independent countries if they still had the Queen as their titular head.  Commonwealth = UK in his mind. Feel free to ::).

But if that was the case, how could we compete (and in Australia's case win) the Commonwealth Games?
I didn't think that I had anything to contribute to this thread, but this reminded me of something...

I am a German citizen and used to live in the UK for a little while. Out of interest I once asked if it was possible to join a certain political party in the UK, explaining that I was a foreigner and where I was from (this was by letter to the party HQ, btw). The reply I got was that, yes, indeed as a citizen of a Commonwealth country I could join the party, no problem. So Germany is a member state of the Commonwealth now?  ???
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: oz diva on December 30, 2011, 01:10:11 AM
Oh no, if that's the case we're (insert swear word of choice).
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Adelaide on December 30, 2011, 01:32:42 AM
Just this evening went round and round with DH.  He swore up, down, and sideways that Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were all lumped together as part of the UK.   He just could not wrap his head around the notion of them being independent countries if they still had the Queen as their titular head.  Commonwealth = UK in his mind. Feel free to ::).

But if that was the case, how could we compete (and in Australia's case win) the Commonwealth Games?
I didn't think that I had anything to contribute to this thread, but this reminded me of something...

I am a German citizen and used to live in the UK for a little while. Out of interest I once asked if it was possible to join a certain political party in the UK, explaining that I was a foreigner and where I was from (this was by letter to the party HQ, btw). The reply I got was that, yes, indeed as a citizen of a Commonwealth country I could join the party, no problem. So Germany is a member state of the Commonwealth now?  ???

The Commonwealth now is just a fraternal organization of completely sovereign states, Commonwealth Realms, that recognize Elizabeth II as their monarch that share similar political and social aims-Australia is a member and recognizes Elizabeth II's authority. The United Kingdom is a sovereign country unto itself in the Commonwealth. But to make things more confusing, the United Kingdom consists is a country consisting of four other countries.

As far as Germany goes...I have no idea. I wasn't aware that it was part of the Commonwealth, and I'm 99.99% sure it's not.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Talley on December 30, 2011, 02:43:41 AM
Just this evening went round and round with DH.  He swore up, down, and sideways that Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were all lumped together as part of the UK.   He just could not wrap his head around the notion of them being independent countries if they still had the Queen as their titular head.  Commonwealth = UK in his mind. Feel free to ::).

But if that was the case, how could we compete (and in Australia's case win) the Commonwealth Games?
I didn't think that I had anything to contribute to this thread, but this reminded me of something...

I am a German citizen and used to live in the UK for a little while. Out of interest I once asked if it was possible to join a certain political party in the UK, explaining that I was a foreigner and where I was from (this was by letter to the party HQ, btw). The reply I got was that, yes, indeed as a citizen of a Commonwealth country I could join the party, no problem. So Germany is a member state of the Commonwealth now?  ???

The Commonwealth now is just a fraternal organization of completely sovereign states, Commonwealth Realms, that recognize Elizabeth II as their monarch that share similar political and social aims-Australia is a member and recognizes Elizabeth II's authority. The United Kingdom is a sovereign country unto itself in the Commonwealth. But to make things more confusing, the United Kingdom consists is a country consisting of four other countries.

As far as Germany goes...I have no idea. I wasn't aware that it was part of the Commonwealth, and I'm 99.99% sure it's not.
It's definitely not in the Commonwealth! LOL! My best guess at the time was that what they wanted to tell me that as a citizen of an EU country I could join their party, but somehow they slipped up when writing the letter...  :P At least I hope that this is what happened...  >:D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Redsoil on December 30, 2011, 07:48:33 AM
I tend to look on the Queen as a sort of  step-mother figure to Aus.  The UK would probably represent that slightly dysfunctional, somewhat eccentric older portion of the family made up of second-cousins, thrice removed etc.  The ones that daintily remove their undergarments at the table to use as serviettes or somesuch.

Cricket season?  Really?  Hadn't even thought about it!  *Whistles innocently*

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Outdoor Girl on December 30, 2011, 08:59:41 AM
This thread reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend back in high school.

We were talking, and I mentioned that I was excited for something that either my boyfriend or his family or something had mailed to me. My boyfriend and his family are Canadian and live obviously in Canada.

Friend: How do they mail things in Canada? Do they have post offices like we do?
Me:  :o *almost falling of stool* Yes Friend, they have post offices. I believe it's just called Canada Post, just like how we have the United States Postal Service.
Friend: Oh. Right. Yeah they'd have to have post offices.
Me: I'm pretty sure they use UPS and FedEx too, but everything I've ever gotten just comes in a standard Canada Post box.
Friend: *genuine excitement about this and subject change*

It's the first and hopefully last time I'll be asked if another country has post offices. And my friend was completely serious too.

Your friend was probably basing his/her opinion on those mud huts igloosy'all live in.

Fixed that for you.   ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Ms_Cellany on December 30, 2011, 09:14:33 AM
This thread reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend back in high school.

We were talking, and I mentioned that I was excited for something that either my boyfriend or his family or something had mailed to me. My boyfriend and his family are Canadian and live obviously in Canada.

Friend: How do they mail things in Canada? Do they have post offices like we do?
Me:  :o *almost falling of stool* Yes Friend, they have post offices. I believe it's just called Canada Post, just like how we have the United States Postal Service.
Friend: Oh. Right. Yeah they'd have to have post offices.
Me: I'm pretty sure they use UPS and FedEx too, but everything I've ever gotten just comes in a standard Canada Post box.
Friend: *genuine excitement about this and subject change*

It's the first and hopefully last time I'll be asked if another country has post offices. And my friend was completely serious too.

Ah, here in Belgium we still send all our mail with pigeons.
Even our email.
 ;D

How do you mail a pigeon, should you need to?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Wulfie on December 30, 2011, 09:20:21 AM
Ah, here in Belgium we still send all our mail with pigeons.
Even our email.
 ;D

You must live in one of the big towns. When I lived in Belgium pigeons would not service any town under 400 people!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: zyrs on December 30, 2011, 09:57:24 AM
Who did he think the Blair Witch killer is?  The guy who "disappeared" in the middle of the movie to trick the other two so he can kill them?   >:D

My friend did not ask him; They were too blown away that anyone would believe that the FBI had released the "video found at the scene" in national theaters.  They thought it was a marketing gimmick on the level of "based on a true story" was a marketing gimmick for the 'return of the living dead" movies.

I live about 60 miles from Burkittsville MD. When that movie came out and they said that Burkittsville was built on the site that Blair used to be, people kept going to Burkittsville and stealing the signs that had the name of the town on there. People would NOT believe it was fake. I personally got into several discussions with people who swore up and down it was real. Nevermind when I pointed out other movies that the actors had made. It was real and they were driving there to get the real story from those poor poor people who are probably cursing the day the previews started showing in the theaters.

Wow.  I know that the rangers and other people around Forks, WA have been asked "How are you handling the vampire problem?", so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Daffodil on December 30, 2011, 09:58:09 AM
This thread reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend back in high school.

We were talking, and I mentioned that I was excited for something that either my boyfriend or his family or something had mailed to me. My boyfriend and his family are Canadian and live obviously in Canada.

Friend: How do they mail things in Canada? Do they have post offices like we do?
Me:  :o *almost falling of stool* Yes Friend, they have post offices. I believe it's just called Canada Post, just like how we have the United States Postal Service.
Friend: Oh. Right. Yeah they'd have to have post offices.
Me: I'm pretty sure they use UPS and FedEx too, but everything I've ever gotten just comes in a standard Canada Post box.
Friend: *genuine excitement about this and subject change*

It's the first and hopefully last time I'll be asked if another country has post offices. And my friend was completely serious too.

Ah, here in Belgium we still send all our mail with pigeons.
Even our email.
 ;D

How do you mail a pigeon, should you need to?

This And

Ah, here in Belgium we still send all our mail with pigeons.
Even our email.
 ;D

You must live in one of the big towns. When I lived in Belgium pigeons would not service any town under 400 people!

This, Is why I love coming to ehell  :P Thanks for the laugh, this morning !
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mlkind1789 on December 30, 2011, 12:06:23 PM
*Don't get me wrong, community colleges are great, I went to one.  However, community college is not where you will get a pre-med degree at all, much less on a par with Tulane.

My community college has a nursing program, but medical school for doctors?  No way.  Maybe SIL got confused since nurses are in the medical profession too.

There are some that have pre-med.

You're right.  There are so many community colleges in the US that I'm sure there are community colleges with pre-med classes.  Mine didn't, but they have the basic science courses that pre-med students need.  I was just trying to say that even if SIL was confused, it's not too strange to mention community college because they do have medical classes, even if it's not full on medical classes to get a doctor's license.

The difference is that my SIL was putting a community college on a par with Tulane and they just will not be. 

I haven't heard of any community colleges that offer a 4 year pre med degree.  I know you can do basics there, but not all 4 years.  DD has already started getting college credit in her science requirements and will be picking up more science, plus math and English next school year. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Petticoats on December 30, 2011, 12:37:35 PM
Wow.  I know that the rangers and other people around Forks, WA have been asked "How are you handling the vampire problem?", so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Please tell me you're joking. Please. I can't bear to think that anyone's that stupid . . .
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on December 30, 2011, 12:53:48 PM
Wow.  I know that the rangers and other people around Forks, WA have been asked "How are you handling the vampire problem?", so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Please tell me you're joking. Please. I can't bear to think that anyone's that stupid . . .

Me too.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Wulfie on December 30, 2011, 01:15:43 PM
Something tells me that they are not kidding! You would be amazed at what people think.

When the move Rose Red came out, we had people asking how to get to the house.  I  just about died when I saw the film. If it was true, Seattle would be in major trouble. The area where the house is supposed to be is an area commonly called "Pill Hill" Most of the hospitals and our major trauma center are right there!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on December 30, 2011, 01:24:32 PM
I have been asked several times if Apollo 18 was real.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: klm75 on December 30, 2011, 03:30:26 PM
This is a story that I was told by a Canadian Senator.  At one time, she was a Canadian Ambassador to the United States.   This was when the "buy American" was a real buzz phrase.

After listening to the Senator from NJ give a speech about how Americans need to buy American and stop buying imports, she went to talk with him.

Her: You should be careful, Canadians may take offense with some of these ideas.  After all, we are each others largest trading partners.

Him:  I didn't  mean Canada, only foreign countries.

She readily admits to not knowing what to say to that, and is not sure to this day whether the Senator thought that Canada wasn't it's own country or if he thought/thinks there are such things as foreign AND domestic countries?!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Cami on December 30, 2011, 03:47:19 PM
More than 30 years ago, my then-boyfriend (now dh) was living in Delaware and I was living in Massachusetts.  We had a standing appointment to call each other on a certain day and time every week. Day and time came, no phone call from him, so I called him. The phone made a very... odd noise, then hung itself up. Same thing, over and over. After more than an hour of me trying on and off, I dialed the long distance operator (remember those days) and said, "I'm trying to place a call from Massachusetts to Delaware and it's not going through. I wonder if you could check the line for me?"
Operator: "Delaware? Well, what number are you dialing?"
Me: "1-234-567-8901"
O: "Well, there's your problem. You're not dialing the country code?"
Me: "What country code?"
O: [deep sigh]: "Ma'am when you call foreign countries, you have to use a country code."
Me: "Delaware is not a foreign country."
O: "Yes, it is."
Me: "NO, it's not. It's a state."
O: "That's ridiculous. It's a country."
Me: "Okay, where?"
O: "By England somewheres."
Me: "I'm sorry, but no. It's a state. By Maryland."
O: "Well, Maryland's not a state either."
Me: "Yes, it is. Have you heard of Baltimore?"
O: "Sure. That's a state. But not Maryland or Delaware."
Me [who is clearly bored and enjoying it at this point]: "Okay. So Delaware is a country. Do you have country codes?"
O: "Yes, of course."
Me: "Then, please give me the country code for Delaware."
O: "Fine, hold please." Pause. Pause. Pause. "Umm. I can't find a country code for Delaware. But here's the country code for Dover in England. I think that should work."
Me: "I bet it won't. But thanks!"
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: laud_shy_girl on December 30, 2011, 06:57:44 PM
More than 30 years ago, my then-boyfriend (now dh) was living in Delaware and I was living in Massachusetts.  We had a standing appointment to call each other on a certain day and time every week. Day and time came, no phone call from him, so I called him. The phone made a very... odd noise, then hung itself up. Same thing, over and over. After more than an hour of me trying on and off, I dialed the long distance operator (remember those days) and said, "I'm trying to place a call from Massachusetts to Delaware and it's not going through. I wonder if you could check the line for me?"
Operator: "Delaware? Well, what number are you dialing?"
Me: "1-234-567-8901"
O: "Well, there's your problem. You're not dialing the country code?"
Me: "What country code?"
O: [deep sigh]: "Ma'am when you call foreign countries, you have to use a country code."
Me: "Delaware is not a foreign country."
O: "Yes, it is."
Me: "NO, it's not. It's a state."
O: "That's ridiculous. It's a country."
Me: "Okay, where?"
O: "By England somewheres."
Me: "I'm sorry, but no. It's a state. By Maryland."
O: "Well, Maryland's not a state either."
Me: "Yes, it is. Have you heard of Baltimore?"
O: "Sure. That's a state. But not Maryland or Delaware."
Me [who is clearly bored and enjoying it at this point]: "Okay. So Delaware is a country. Do you have country codes?"
O: "Yes, of course."
Me: "Then, please give me the country code for Delaware."
O: "Fine, hold please." Pause. Pause. Pause. "Umm. I can't find a country code for Delaware. But here's the country code for Dover in England. I think that should work."
Me: "I bet it won't. But thanks!"

oh my  :o  I think my brain just melted. I'm from the UK and I know Delaware and Maryland are states.

My uncles wife was adamant Canada was a US state.

Also my SIL as a young teen said she would never fly to the US  she would take the bridge...   ??? yep a bridge from England to the USA so about 3000 miles give or take a few.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Judah on December 30, 2011, 07:04:28 PM
This thread reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend back in high school.

We were talking, and I mentioned that I was excited for something that either my boyfriend or his family or something had mailed to me. My boyfriend and his family are Canadian and live obviously in Canada.

Friend: How do they mail things in Canada? Do they have post offices like we do?
Me:  :o *almost falling of stool* Yes Friend, they have post offices. I believe it's just called Canada Post, just like how we have the United States Postal Service.
Friend: Oh. Right. Yeah they'd have to have post offices.
Me: I'm pretty sure they use UPS and FedEx too, but everything I've ever gotten just comes in a standard Canada Post box.
Friend: *genuine excitement about this and subject change*

It's the first and hopefully last time I'll be asked if another country has post offices. And my friend was completely serious too.

To be fair, not all countries have postal systems like we're used to.  I was quite shocked to find out the country my friend moved to doesn't have one.  Getting mail to her is ridiculously convoluted and  involves sending things through her husbands employer.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on December 30, 2011, 08:31:53 PM
This is a story that I was told by a Canadian Senator.  At one time, she was a Canadian Ambassador to the United States.   This was when the "buy American" was a real buzz phrase.

After listening to the Senator from NJ give a speech about how Americans need to buy American and stop buying imports, she went to talk with him.

Her: You should be careful, Canadians may take offense with some of these ideas.  After all, we are each others largest trading partners.

Him:  I didn't  mean Canada, only foreign countries.

She readily admits to not knowing what to say to that, and is not sure to this day whether the Senator thought that Canada wasn't it's own country or if he thought/thinks there are such things as foreign AND domestic countries?!


I've actually heard Canadians are foreigners but also English, and Australians are not foreigners. What I think they mean is - they speak English so they are just like us not like those people who speak other languages. In more blunt terms they are bigots.




Mom went in to renew her DL after the motor voter law* was passed. The clerk tried to get her to register to vote. Mom explained she wasn't a US citizen. The clerk asked her "Are you sure, you speak English so good you have to be an American."


*Law that requires certain government agencies to have registration cards available and offer them to citizen so they could sign up to vote.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: onikenbai on December 30, 2011, 09:26:43 PM
Just this evening went round and round with DH.  He swore up, down, and sideways that Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were all lumped together as part of the UK.   He just could not wrap his head around the notion of them being independent countries if they still had the Queen as their titular head.  Commonwealth = UK in his mind. Feel free to ::).

But if that was the case, how could we compete (and in Australia's case win) the Commonwealth Games?
I didn't think that I had anything to contribute to this thread, but this reminded me of something...

I am a German citizen and used to live in the UK for a little while. Out of interest I once asked if it was possible to join a certain political party in the UK, explaining that I was a foreigner and where I was from (this was by letter to the party HQ, btw). The reply I got was that, yes, indeed as a citizen of a Commonwealth country I could join the party, no problem. So Germany is a member state of the Commonwealth now?  ???

The Commonwealth now is just a fraternal organization of completely sovereign states, Commonwealth Realms, that recognize Elizabeth II as their monarch that share similar political and social aims-Australia is a member and recognizes Elizabeth II's authority. The United Kingdom is a sovereign country unto itself in the Commonwealth. But to make things more confusing, the United Kingdom consists is a country consisting of four other countries.

As far as Germany goes...I have no idea. I wasn't aware that it was part of the Commonwealth, and I'm 99.99% sure it's not.

Germany is most definitely not.  I can see how Canada=UK would fly.  Although she's never done it, the Queen still has veto power over any law Canada tries to enact.  Canadians abroad will also be assisted by the British embassy if no Canadian one is available, and should any country be dumb enough to try to invade Canada it would be a pretty sure bet the British military would be on planes the same day.  The ties between the two countries are still pretty tight.  Also, we apparently got the British army addicted to Tim Horton's in Afghanistan so they are looking for an excuse to come on over.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: snowfire on December 30, 2011, 10:19:29 PM
I have been asked several times if Apollo 18 was real.

When DH and I went to see Apollo 13 with a friend and his quite a bit younger girlfriend, we exited the theatre talking about our memories of the Apollo program, the first moon landing and the mess with 13.  She was looking back and forth between the three of us as if she was watching a ping pong game.  Out of her mouth came the words: "You mean that really happened???"

She had NEVER heard about the Apollo program or the moon landing!!! Yes, we are in the U.S.  Don't they teach about that in school?????
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on December 30, 2011, 11:15:05 PM
When I was in high school, many eons ago when rocks were still in beta testing, recent history was given short shrift.  My American history teacher (one of the evil ones who made history DULL!) taught it as economics. This depression, that recession, dulldulldull.  We spent so much time on the Roaring Twenties and the Great Depression that WWII got about 10 minutes of coverage on the very last day of class.  To sum up: There was another big war.  We won.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Dazi on December 30, 2011, 11:24:47 PM
The Apollo thing reminds me of an overheard conversation between to teen boys.  One was convinced the Challenger explotion was just part of some movie/special effects and not an actual event.  The other kid could not convince him it actually happened.   ???
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: JolieFille on December 31, 2011, 12:30:16 AM
Well apparently the mother of one of my friends just had a hysterectomy. Friend was telling me about how she's worried for her mom and stuff, and I mentioned that my mom had that done when I was little.

Friend: A hysterectomy! That's what my mom has. They took out her bladder!
Me:  :o Um, friend, you need your bladder. Do you mean they took out your mom's uterus?
Friend: Yeah right the place where babies grow. Their looking for precancerous cells!
Me: Well I hope they don't find any. Did they remove anything else, or just her uterus?
Friend: I don't know, but if she can't pee on her own she has to go back to the hospital.

I changed the subject at this point. This isn't the first mind numbing conversation I've had with this person.  And I also really don't want to know anymore about her mom's ability to pee or not. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on December 31, 2011, 12:46:02 AM
Many times, when they do a hysterectomy, they also do a bladder sling for prolapse while they're there. Maybe she combined the two procedures that were being done?

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Craftyone on December 31, 2011, 06:15:58 AM
Most conversations with my mother. She has a habit of talking to me about something or someone and forgetting to give me the background, then gets irritated when I ask her what she's talking about. My brain hurts sometimes by the time we've finished talking
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on December 31, 2011, 09:25:02 AM
More than 30 years ago, my then-boyfriend (now dh) was living in Delaware and I was living in Massachusetts.  We had a standing appointment to call each other on a certain day and time every week. Day and time came, no phone call from him, so I called him. The phone made a very... odd noise, then hung itself up. Same thing, over and over. After more than an hour of me trying on and off, I dialed the long distance operator (remember those days) and said, "I'm trying to place a call from Massachusetts to Delaware and it's not going through. I wonder if you could check the line for me?"
Operator: "Delaware? Well, what number are you dialing?"
Me: "1-234-567-8901"
O: "Well, there's your problem. You're not dialing the country code?"
Me: "What country code?"
O: [deep sigh]: "Ma'am when you call foreign countries, you have to use a country code."
Me: "Delaware is not a foreign country."
O: "Yes, it is."
Me: "NO, it's not. It's a state."
O: "That's ridiculous. It's a country."
Me: "Okay, where?"
O: "By England somewheres."
Me: "I'm sorry, but no. It's a state. By Maryland."
O: "Well, Maryland's not a state either."
Me: "Yes, it is. Have you heard of Baltimore?"
O: "Sure. That's a state. But not Maryland or Delaware."
Me [who is clearly bored and enjoying it at this point]: "Okay. So Delaware is a country. Do you have country codes?"
O: "Yes, of course."
Me: "Then, please give me the country code for Delaware."
O: "Fine, hold please." Pause. Pause. Pause. "Umm. I can't find a country code for Delaware. But here's the country code for Dover in England. I think that should work."
Me: "I bet it won't. But thanks!"

oh my  :o  I think my brain just melted. I'm from the UK and I know Delaware and Maryland are states.

My uncles wife was adamant Canada was a US state.

Also my SIL as a young teen said she would never fly to the US  she would take the bridge...   ??? yep a bridge from England to the USA so about 3000 miles give or take a few.

Holy...LOL! I have no words. How can Baltimore be a state but not Maryland? How does someone get that kind of a job not knowing that Delaware and Maryland are one of the 50 states?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Dazi on December 31, 2011, 09:37:50 AM
Ha! The operator thing reminded me of an exchange from a friend trying to call Georgia, the country.  For whatever reason, he couldn't get the call to go through.  The operator tried telling him that everyone knows Georgia is a state, even after he told her it was a country between Russia and Turkey....she then tried telling him Turkey was a food, not a country.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Daffodil on December 31, 2011, 09:53:29 AM
I called my bank, yesterday, to make an appointment to change my current credit card (which is called a learn card, because it's low limit, and was my first one) to a normal credit card, so the limit can be increased. The woman on the phone asks me if I'm in school, and I tell her that I am not. I didn't understand the question anyway, since I didn't have to be a student in the first place, to get the card.

Anyway, I tell her that I'm not, and she tells me "Ok, when you go to your appointment, you have to bring proof that you're not in college"  ??? I was confused, and she didn't tell me exactly how I'm supposed to prove I'm not in college.

I would be able to prove that I'm *in* it , but does one know how to prove that I'm not in it ?

My brain was hurting quite a bit after getting off of the phone with her ..
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on December 31, 2011, 10:17:21 AM
I think she may have meant that you show proof you graduated college, thinking that you are a graduate. Otherwise, I agree that that makes no sense.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Daffodil on December 31, 2011, 10:35:40 AM
I think she may have meant that you show proof you graduated college, thinking that you are a graduate. Otherwise, I agree that that makes no sense.

I figured if she meant that, she would have said proof of graduation / certificate or diploma. She just simply said "proof that you aren't in college"  :-\ I guess I'll see at my appt. next week !
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on December 31, 2011, 10:41:33 AM
Will you update us on what they say next week? I'm curious now!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on December 31, 2011, 10:43:26 AM
Will you update us on what they say next week? I'm curious now!

Me too!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: pwv on December 31, 2011, 10:46:38 AM
My father was military and we were sent to Hawaii in the late 50s.  When we returned to the mainland, people wanted to know if we lived in a grass shack and if there were wild pigs running loose.  Also, mom and I had brought back several muumuu's (ankle-length "dresses").  We visited our grandparents while traveling to his next assignment on the east coast.  When they visited at Christmas, grandma mentioned that several of herneighbors had complained to her about mom and I going outside in our "nightgowns."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: TomOBedlam on December 31, 2011, 11:12:09 AM
How do you mail a pigeon, should you need to?

Bigger pigeons.

::rimshot::


I'm in training right now, and my instructor this week told a story about a previous student (an adult, mind you) with whom he had the following conversation:

Student: Copperheads smell like cucumbers.
Instructor: What do cucumbers smell like?
Student: Cucumbers have absolutely no smell.
Instructor: So copperheads have no smell.
Student: No, they smell like cucumbers.
Instructor: But you just said that cucumbers have no smell.
Student: Right.
Instructor: So copperheads have no smell.
Student: No, they smell like cucumbers.

Apparently, this conversation went around in circles for about five minutes until the instructor gave up.  He says the student was entirely serious and could not understand why the instructor couldn't understand what he was saying.  Nobody else in the class had any idea what he was getting at, either.

And from what I understand about snakes, anyone who thinks any snake smells like cucumbers should really clean out the vegetable compartment in their refrigerator more often.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mbbored on December 31, 2011, 12:11:51 PM
How do you mail a pigeon, should you need to?

Bigger pigeons.

::rimshot::


I'm in training right now, and my instructor this week told a story about a previous student (an adult, mind you) with whom he had the following conversation:

Student: Copperheads smell like cucumbers.
Instructor: What do cucumbers smell like?
Student: Cucumbers have absolutely no smell.
Instructor: So copperheads have no smell.
Student: No, they smell like cucumbers.
Instructor: But you just said that cucumbers have no smell.
Student: Right.
Instructor: So copperheads have no smell.
Student: No, they smell like cucumbers.

Apparently, this conversation went around in circles for about five minutes until the instructor gave up.  He says the student was entirely serious and could not understand why the instructor couldn't understand what he was saying.  Nobody else in the class had any idea what he was getting at, either.

And from what I understand about snakes, anyone who thinks any snake smells like cucumbers should really clean out the vegetable compartment in their refrigerator more often.

Actually, I was taught that rattle snakes had a musty smell. Also, I do think cucumbers have a real smell.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MayHug on December 31, 2011, 12:35:16 PM
I do quality control for a small company. I was making a few changes on an account on Tuesday (the only day I am in the office to do the changes) .
On Friday afternoon a co-worker asked me about the changes and why something particular wasn't done. I replied that it wasn't in the paperwork I was given. She replied in a very snotty manor that it was on the fax!
I said I wasn't given a fax just an internal paper asking for the changes.
She then says " the fax came in on Thursday" I replied oh, sorry I did  the work on Tuesday" she then begins to berate me for not doing the particular change Tuesday that came over by fax on Thursday!!
I asked her how I could have done it when it came in two days later? she stood there sputtering for words.

Then says she is going to our boss, because this has happened before and she feels I'm not doing my job. (She is not my supervisor and does a completely different job than I do)

I bang my head on my desk consistently with this co-worker over these kind of exchanges!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kitty-cat on December 31, 2011, 12:41:19 PM
I have been asked several times if Apollo 18 was real.

When DH and I went to see Apollo 13 with a friend and his quite a bit younger girlfriend, we exited the theatre talking about our memories of the Apollo program, the first moon landing and the mess with 13.  She was looking back and forth between the three of us as if she was watching a ping pong game.  Out of her mouth came the words: "You mean that really happened???"

She had NEVER heard about the Apollo program or the moon landing!!! Yes, we are in the U.S.  Don't they teach about that in school?????

Relatively recent graduate of the US public school system. Let's see, I learned world history up to the renaissance, US history from colonial to Vietnam. (That one irked me. "Vietnam has never been on the AP test". Guess what the essay question was that year?), and then European history from the Italian Renaissance up to WWII for once. Honestly, I only knew about WWII before then because I read ahead in my book.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Daffodil on December 31, 2011, 12:52:05 PM

Will you update us on what they say next week? I'm curious now!

Me too!

For sure ! I wouldn't leave you all hanging like that  :P
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on December 31, 2011, 12:53:11 PM

I'm in training right now, and my instructor this week told a story about a previous student (an adult, mind you) with whom he had the following conversation:

Student: Copperheads smell like cucumbers.
Instructor: What do cucumbers smell like?
Student: Cucumbers have absolutely no smell.
Instructor: So copperheads have no smell.
Student: No, they smell like cucumbers.
Instructor: But you just said that cucumbers have no smell.
Student: Right.
Instructor: So copperheads have no smell.
Student: No, they smell like cucumbers.

And from what I understand about snakes, anyone who thinks any snake smells like cucumbers should really clean out the vegetable compartment in their refrigerator more often.

Actually, I was taught that rattle snakes had a musty smell. Also, I do think cucumbers have a real smell.

Just ask Bath and Body Works. And I've made enough salads that I know that cucumbers DO have a smell! I think my grandson just posted of FaceBook that his python smells like vanilla. (I don't know what kind of cage-filler they are using. I know what he eats, so it's not that!)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on December 31, 2011, 12:57:31 PM
I'm US, and I learned from colonial times to the present day (though the nearer it was, the skimpier it got, because the teachers didn't want to talk politics). I took AP European history and learned from early medieval times to the middle of Soviet Russia. I don't think that my education is standard by any means, though.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: gramma dishes on December 31, 2011, 01:01:22 PM
I do not know whether this was actually true or not, but a person I knew who was a high school teacher in the late 1940s and 50s told me that their high school curriculum included very little about World War II because there was concern that foreigners living here (U.S.) from some of the other countries involved in that war would be harassed and treated badly.  Apparently there was much animosity running around loose for awhile after that war.   
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: cabbagegirl28 on December 31, 2011, 01:47:43 PM
I have been asked several times if Apollo 18 was real.

When DH and I went to see Apollo 13 with a friend and his quite a bit younger girlfriend, we exited the theatre talking about our memories of the Apollo program, the first moon landing and the mess with 13.  She was looking back and forth between the three of us as if she was watching a ping pong game.  Out of her mouth came the words: "You mean that really happened???"

She had NEVER heard about the Apollo program or the moon landing!!! Yes, we are in the U.S.  Don't they teach about that in school?????

Relatively recent graduate of the US public school system. Let's see, I learned world history up to the renaissance, US history from colonial to Vietnam. (That one irked me. "Vietnam has never been on the AP test". Guess what the essay question was that year?), and then European history from the Italian Renaissance up to WWII for once. Honestly, I only knew about WWII before then because I read ahead in my book.

Yeah, I had to take the AP US test that year. The Vietnam one wasn't so bad, but I'm pretty good about pulling those essays out of nowhere. Still annoying, though.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: bopper on December 31, 2011, 02:25:46 PM
The difference is that my SIL was putting a community college on a par with Tulane and they just will not be. 

I haven't heard of any community colleges that offer a 4 year pre med degree.  I know you can do basics there, but not all 4 years.  DD has already started getting college credit in her science requirements and will be picking up more science, plus math and English next school year.

Actually most Med Schools won't generally take pre-requisite courses from a Community College...I suppose you  could perhaps do two years at a CC and then all the pre-reqs at a 4 year university but that would be tough.  Med Schools want you to be able to take and succeed in challenging courses.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: zyrs on December 31, 2011, 02:56:15 PM
Wow.  I know that the rangers and other people around Forks, WA have been asked "How are you handling the vampire problem?", so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Please tell me you're joking. Please. I can't bear to think that anyone's that stupid . . .

I'm not. 

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/entertainment/2008075490_twilight270.html

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on December 31, 2011, 03:15:49 PM
Our history was pretty much the same... scanty after about 1920.  Which was fine by me at the time.  <rolls eyes>  I'm glad that the curriculum my kids are doing devotes a year to 20th Century history.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on December 31, 2011, 03:56:44 PM
I do not know whether this was actually true or not, but a person I knew who was a high school teacher in the late 1940s and 50s told me that their high school curriculum included very little about World War II because there was concern that foreigners living here (U.S.) from some of the other countries involved in that war would be harassed and treated badly.  Apparently there was much animosity running around loose for awhile after that war.
Yes, there was.  When I was a child in the 60's (so 15-20 years after the end of the war), "German" and "Jap" were both uncomplimentary words. A certain breed of dog was always called a police dog, not a German Shepherd.  (Apologies to any German or Japanese members -- I do not think so, but make mention for historical accuracy.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on December 31, 2011, 04:39:53 PM
I'm pretty sure the reason we never covered more "recent" history was because the teachers were always falling behind in the textbook, so we ran out of year before we got past 1940 or so.  What we did learn about WWII mostly focused on Japanese internment camps, the Holocaust, and the plight of various minorities over the course of the war.  That's good information, of course, but it really helps if you learn about the war so you have some background to it!

I was really grateful to my 11th grade world history teacher who actually made a point of teaching more than names and dates.  For the first time ever, I realized that there was more to history than just dates - the economics, politics, religion, public sentiment, military, and prevailing trends of thought all wove together to cause the wars in the first place!  Nobody had ever bothered to tell us that - just simplistic things like "The Civil War was because the South wanted to keep slaves and the North didn't like it," nothing about taxes or economics or politics.  It's because of that class that I can now look at some current events as they're happening and realize "In fifty years, students are going to look at X, Y, and Z as the major factors which combined to cause ABC event!"
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on December 31, 2011, 04:54:28 PM
The reason Vietnam wasn't covered in History when I was going through school ('80s) is that there was a possibility that some students could have had family members die there.

Often, there is a rational reason why History classes stop at a certain point.

And cucumbers definitely smell. The other day, I said to a coworker that someone was eating a cucumber - I didn't know who it was, but I could smell it. Made me want a cucumber for lunch, too.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sharnita on December 31, 2011, 04:59:32 PM
The eternal debate among history teachers is depth v. bredth.  The deeper you go into topics the harder it is to cover the entire scope of years.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: klm75 on December 31, 2011, 06:32:21 PM
Just this evening went round and round with DH.  He swore up, down, and sideways that Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were all lumped together as part of the UK.   He just could not wrap his head around the notion of them being independent countries if they still had the Queen as their titular head.  Commonwealth = UK in his mind. Feel free to ::).

But if that was the case, how could we compete (and in Australia's case win) the Commonwealth Games?
I didn't think that I had anything to contribute to this thread, but this reminded me of something...

I am a German citizen and used to live in the UK for a little while. Out of interest I once asked if it was possible to join a certain political party in the UK, explaining that I was a foreigner and where I was from (this was by letter to the party HQ, btw). The reply I got was that, yes, indeed as a citizen of a Commonwealth country I could join the party, no problem. So Germany is a member state of the Commonwealth now?  ???

The Commonwealth now is just a fraternal organization of completely sovereign states, Commonwealth Realms, that recognize Elizabeth II as their monarch that share similar political and social aims-Australia is a member and recognizes Elizabeth II's authority. The United Kingdom is a sovereign country unto itself in the Commonwealth. But to make things more confusing, the United Kingdom consists is a country consisting of four other countries.

As far as Germany goes...I have no idea. I wasn't aware that it was part of the Commonwealth, and I'm 99.99% sure it's not.

Germany is most definitely not.  I can see how Canada=UK would fly.  Although she's never done it, the Queen still has veto power over any law Canada tries to enact.  Canadians abroad will also be assisted by the British embassy if no Canadian one is available, and should any country be dumb enough to try to invade Canada it would be a pretty sure bet the British military would be on planes the same day.  The ties between the two countries are still pretty tight.  Also, we apparently got the British army addicted to Tim Horton's in Afghanistan so they are looking for an excuse to come on over.

The Americans as well, that Timmies was paid off in record time ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: guihong on December 31, 2011, 06:34:34 PM
The reason Vietnam wasn't covered in History when I was going through school ('80s) is that there was a possibility that some students could have had family members die there.
Often, there is a rational reason why History classes stop at a certain point.


In the school district I grew up in, a teacher opened the Vietnam unit by asking if anyone had been to the memorial in D.C. (so this would have been 1980's).  One student raised her hand and said "My father's name is on it".  :(. For the above reason, and because it was so controversial, I suspect many teachers didn't look forward to even discussing it.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on December 31, 2011, 07:59:38 PM
Still, though. My son's 5th grade history class covered Reconstruction through right now. When Osama bin Laden was killed, I was able to point out to him that history isn't just hundreds of years ago, it's 5 minutes ago.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on December 31, 2011, 10:19:01 PM
The reason Vietnam wasn't covered in History when I was going through school ('80s) is that there was a possibility that some students could have had family members die there.

Often, there is a rational reason why History classes stop at a certain point.

And cucumbers definitely smell. The other day, I said to a coworker that someone was eating a cucumber - I didn't know who it was, but I could smell it. Made me want a cucumber for lunch, too.


My US History teacher made my head hurt -

Korea, Vietnam, and Watergate were covered in 2 pages of my US History Textbook. The cuban missile crisis was not mentioned.  My teacher said it wasn't important. Both my parents said had both thought the world was going to come to a fiery nuclear end, so I knew I was important. I got in a lot of trouble with that teacher. I had been taught by my parents that the stories of history were more important than exact dates. (Knowing what came first is different than exact dates).

One memorable exchange about WWII. I told her that members of my family had would go down to Galveston Sea wall to watch for German U boats. She insisted that that was never a concern. She even claimed there was no military on Galveston during WWII (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Crockett). I've climbed on the old gun batteries! I told her that she told me I was wrong and that she would have remembered if there was military on Galveston. I blurted out "But you were born after WWII". She snapped how would you know that. I pointed to a picture of her graduating class from the our HS she had up in the room. "My cousin Don and his now wife Debra were in your class. Don was born after Uncle Eddie came home at the end of the war. (I just checked ancestory.com because I found his birth record a while back. Don was born in 1950.) Oh she also told me Don couldn't be my cousin because he was too old. He is Dad's 1st cousin. My 1st cousin once removed.


 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: 2littlemonkeys on December 31, 2011, 10:47:53 PM
My kids were more crushed by the opposite.  "Mommy, it's Christmas!  How can it be Christmas without snow?"  And then, now that Christmas is over... "Is it spring now?"  "No, sweetie, winter just started."  "But we had Christmas, and there was no snow, so now it's time for spring!"  <sigh>  I'm reading them a Berenstain Bears book that talks about winter as "January, February, and March," so maybe that will get things straight.  We're in a region that ought to get at least a few good snows this winter.

Hillia, I will have to profess my ignorance as to the meaning of wililly.  I wouldn't assume willy-nilly, though.  :)

My kids were having the same problem.  They were worried that Santa couldn't come if there wasn't any snow.  I tried to "prove" that it wasn't an issue by talking about places that never or rarely had snow in the winter yet still got a Santa visit.  They weren't convinced until they saw evidence of his visit.

Here's a conversation I seem to keep having with a relative.  The background is that she very rarely drinks water.  She prefers soda.

Her: "I'm thirsty.  What can I take for that?"
Me: "uh...water?"
Her: "No...I don't feel thirsty for water." *cracks open a soda*

Soda is a diuretic.  I'm not terribly surprised she's thirsty.  I've tried to explain this to her but I'd have better luck convincing the cat.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Redsoil on December 31, 2011, 10:55:49 PM
It's funny, but if I'm especially thirsty, water really doesn't seem to "quench" the thirst as such (although I do realise it assists with hydration, and yes, I do drink enough of it).  Even though soda or a cup of tea both have mild diuretic effects, they seem to sate that feeling of thirst far more effectively!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: 2littlemonkeys on December 31, 2011, 11:01:26 PM
The reason Vietnam wasn't covered in History when I was going through school ('80s) is that there was a possibility that some students could have had family members die there.

Often, there is a rational reason why History classes stop at a certain point.

And cucumbers definitely smell. The other day, I said to a coworker that someone was eating a cucumber - I didn't know who it was, but I could smell it. Made me want a cucumber for lunch, too.

I graduated in 1990 and we never really got past WW2.  Once, we briefly touched on Korea but I never put 2 and 2 together that it would because of that.  Uh dur!

And cukes totally have a very distinctive odor.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MeeLee on January 01, 2012, 11:02:53 AM
I was at a friends house the night before the Royal Wedding and we were discussing if we were going to get up early in the morning to watch it. We are all Canadian. One guy said, "I don't give a *bleep* about it, we didn't fight a war with England for nothing."

Well, I guess we lost really bad then considering the Queen is on our money lol.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on January 01, 2012, 11:31:50 AM
Here's a conversation I seem to keep having with a relative.  The background is that she very rarely drinks water.  She prefers soda.

Her: "I'm thirsty.  What can I take for that?"
Me: "uh...water?"
Her: "No...I don't feel thirsty for water." *cracks open a soda*

Soda is a diuretic.  I'm not terribly surprised she's thirsty.  I've tried to explain this to her but I'd have better luck convincing the cat.

I rarely drink water myself.  It makes me feel nauseous.  I'm not sure why, it may be something about the hardness, but even our filtered water causes that problem.  The only way I can handle it is with a *lot* of ice so that it's too cold for me to notice the taste.  My favorite drink is iced tea, but I think it's less of a diuretic because it's weak decaffeinated tea with sucralose instead of sugar.  My understanding is that it's the caffeine that makes soda/coffee/tea diuretics.  At least, I hope so.  :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jilly on January 01, 2012, 11:37:58 AM
I had set up a laptop to do a test from the command prompt. I showed my co-worker that all he needed to do was press the up arrow key check the command had come up then press enter after 10 seconds or so press ctrl and c to stop then read the results. I had him do it with me there and he uses computers at home and at work. After I'd been doing my own stuff for a while he asked "which up arrow" when I went to see what he was on about he was pointing at the shift keys   ??? So I went through it all again and go back to work next " why isn't it working"  well I don't know what he'd done but instead of the expected command there were a bunch of random characters from arround the up arrow. So I set him strait and make him do this one in front of me but instead of actually pressing the key he sort of vaugely taps the surface a is wondering why nothing happens    ::) finally we got through how to start the test and I make sure he knows how to stop the test and read the result. He's fairly annoyed by this and shoos me off with a "yes yes yes". Any way a bit later he asks " why isn't it displaying the result?" Apparently stop the test read the result wasn't clear enough  >:(

This is just the latest of many conversations with him that make your brain hurt.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Ruelz on January 01, 2012, 11:51:36 AM
This is just an example the kind of little talks I have with hubby:

A month ago: 

Me: "I'd like to try a supplement called 5-HTP.  This is what it is, this is what it's good for, and what do you think about my trying it?"

Hubby: "Great idea!  Give it a shot!  See if it works.  I'll stop on the way home and get some for you."

After shopping for it:

Hubby: "I stopped at x number of places, couldn't find it.  Finally found it and talked with the pharmacist about it.  He recommends trying it for a month or longer, etc."

During the ensuing month I discuss it with him periodically (doesn't seem to be doing anything).  He reminds me that the pharmacist suggested at least a 2nd month.

Yesterday:  I'm out.  I put 5-HTP on the mini-grocery list of stuff that he was picking up.

Hubby calls from grocery store:  "What the heck is this 5-HTP that's on the list?  I've never heard of it before!  If you're going to put bizarre stuff on the list you need to explain to me what it is ahead of time!....blah blah blah...

 ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: I'mnotinsane on January 01, 2012, 12:53:40 PM
The reason Vietnam wasn't covered in History when I was going through school ('80s) is that there was a possibility that some students could have had family members die there.

Often, there is a rational reason why History classes stop at a certain point.

And cucumbers definitely smell. The other day, I said to a coworker that someone was eating a cucumber - I didn't know who it was, but I could smell it. Made me want a cucumber for lunch, too.

I went to HS in the 80's too.  In addition to kids who lost family members in the military, a few kids were refugees.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: rose red on January 01, 2012, 02:55:24 PM
Here's a conversation I seem to keep having with a relative.  The background is that she very rarely drinks water.  She prefers soda.

Her: "I'm thirsty.  What can I take for that?"
Me: "uh...water?"
Her: "No...I don't feel thirsty for water." *cracks open a soda*

Soda is a diuretic.  I'm not terribly surprised she's thirsty.  I've tried to explain this to her but I'd have better luck convincing the cat.

I rarely drink water myself.  It makes me feel nauseous.  I'm not sure why, it may be something about the hardness, but even our filtered water causes that problem.  The only way I can handle it is with a *lot* of ice so that it's too cold for me to notice the taste.  My favorite drink is iced tea, but I think it's less of a diuretic because it's weak decaffeinated tea with sucralose instead of sugar.  My understanding is that it's the caffeine that makes soda/coffee/tea diuretics.  At least, I hope so.  :)

I have noticed that most people who have coffee/soda/juice as their primary liquid really hate water.  As a kid, I drank nothing but soda and thought water was the most disgusting thing ever.  It was a struggle to drink water.  After my taste bud got retrained (it was difficult, believe me), I now love water.

My best friend who drink coffee all day long will gag on water and can't imagine how I can stand the stuff.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Betelnut on January 01, 2012, 02:58:21 PM
Here's a conversation I seem to keep having with a relative.  The background is that she very rarely drinks water.  She prefers soda.

Her: "I'm thirsty.  What can I take for that?"
Me: "uh...water?"
Her: "No...I don't feel thirsty for water." *cracks open a soda*

Soda is a diuretic.  I'm not terribly surprised she's thirsty.  I've tried to explain this to her but I'd have better luck convincing the cat.

I rarely drink water myself.  It makes me feel nauseous.  I'm not sure why, it may be something about the hardness, but even our filtered water causes that problem.  The only way I can handle it is with a *lot* of ice so that it's too cold for me to notice the taste.  My favorite drink is iced tea, but I think it's less of a diuretic because it's weak decaffeinated tea with sucralose instead of sugar.  My understanding is that it's the caffeine that makes soda/coffee/tea diuretics.  At least, I hope so.  :)

I have noticed that most people who have coffee/soda/juice as their primary liquid really hate water.  As a kid, I drank nothing but soda and thought water was the most disgusting thing ever.  It was a struggle to drink water.  After my taste bud got retrained (it was difficult, believe me), I now love water.

My best friend who drink coffee all day long will gag on water and can't imagine how I can stand the stuff.

Just last week a co-worker mentioned not liking water.  She said that she "needed something with a flavor."  I pointed out to her that water DOES have a flavor and she gave me a disbelieving look.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: wendelenn on January 01, 2012, 03:02:26 PM
Here's a conversation I seem to keep having with a relative.  The background is that she very rarely drinks water.  She prefers soda.

Her: "I'm thirsty.  What can I take for that?"
Me: "uh...water?"
Her: "No...I don't feel thirsty for water." *cracks open a soda*

Soda is a diuretic.  I'm not terribly surprised she's thirsty.  I've tried to explain this to her but I'd have better luck convincing the cat.

I rarely drink water myself.  It makes me feel nauseous.  I'm not sure why, it may be something about the hardness, but even our filtered water causes that problem.  The only way I can handle it is with a *lot* of ice so that it's too cold for me to notice the taste.  My favorite drink is iced tea, but I think it's less of a diuretic because it's weak decaffeinated tea with sucralose instead of sugar.  My understanding is that it's the caffeine that makes soda/coffee/tea diuretics.  At least, I hope so.  :)

I have noticed that most people who have coffee/soda/juice as their primary liquid really hate water.  As a kid, I drank nothing but soda and thought water was the most disgusting thing ever.  It was a struggle to drink water.  After my taste bud got retrained (it was difficult, believe me), I now love water.

My best friend who drink coffee all day long will gag on water and can't imagine how I can stand the stuff.

Just last week a co-worker mentioned not liking water.  She said that she "needed something with a flavor."  I pointed out to her that water DOES have a flavor and she gave me a disbelieving look.

I don't know, I'm kind of on your CW's side on this one. If water does have a flavor, it's very dull and plain; I know water is important and I do drink it, but it's very tasteless to me.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on January 01, 2012, 03:27:52 PM
Here's a conversation I seem to keep having with a relative.  The background is that she very rarely drinks water.  She prefers soda.

Her: "I'm thirsty.  What can I take for that?"
Me: "uh...water?"
Her: "No...I don't feel thirsty for water." *cracks open a soda*

Soda is a diuretic.  I'm not terribly surprised she's thirsty.  I've tried to explain this to her but I'd have better luck convincing the cat.

I rarely drink water myself.  It makes me feel nauseous.  I'm not sure why, it may be something about the hardness, but even our filtered water causes that problem.  The only way I can handle it is with a *lot* of ice so that it's too cold for me to notice the taste.  My favorite drink is iced tea, but I think it's less of a diuretic because it's weak decaffeinated tea with sucralose instead of sugar.  My understanding is that it's the caffeine that makes soda/coffee/tea diuretics.  At least, I hope so.  :)

I have noticed that most people who have coffee/soda/juice as their primary liquid really hate water.  As a kid, I drank nothing but soda and thought water was the most disgusting thing ever.  It was a struggle to drink water.  After my taste bud got retrained (it was difficult, believe me), I now love water.

My best friend who drink coffee all day long will gag on water and can't imagine how I can stand the stuff.

Just last week a co-worker mentioned not liking water.  She said that she "needed something with a flavor."  I pointed out to her that water DOES have a flavor and she gave me a disbelieving look.

I don't know, I'm kind of on your CW's side on this one. If water does have a flavor, it's very dull and plain; I know water is important and I do drink it, but it's very tasteless to me.

I like water just fine and drink plenty of it, but I definitely know the feeling when nothing will quench your thirst quite like soda. A European neighbor of mine used to drink Perrier for the same kind of thirst.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on January 01, 2012, 03:29:06 PM
Here's a conversation I seem to keep having with a relative.  The background is that she very rarely drinks water.  She prefers soda.

Her: "I'm thirsty.  What can I take for that?"
Me: "uh...water?"
Her: "No...I don't feel thirsty for water." *cracks open a soda*

Soda is a diuretic.  I'm not terribly surprised she's thirsty.  I've tried to explain this to her but I'd have better luck convincing the cat.

I rarely drink water myself.  It makes me feel nauseous.  I'm not sure why, it may be something about the hardness, but even our filtered water causes that problem.  The only way I can handle it is with a *lot* of ice so that it's too cold for me to notice the taste.  My favorite drink is iced tea, but I think it's less of a diuretic because it's weak decaffeinated tea with sucralose instead of sugar.  My understanding is that it's the caffeine that makes soda/coffee/tea diuretics.  At least, I hope so.  :)

I have noticed that most people who have coffee/soda/juice as their primary liquid really hate water.  As a kid, I drank nothing but soda and thought water was the most disgusting thing ever.  It was a struggle to drink water.  After my taste bud got retrained (it was difficult, believe me), I now love water.

My best friend who drink coffee all day long will gag on water and can't imagine how I can stand the stuff.

Just last week a co-worker mentioned not liking water.  She said that she "needed something with a flavor."  I pointed out to her that water DOES have a flavor and she gave me a disbelieving look.

I don't know, I'm kind of on your CW's side on this one. If water does have a flavor, it's very dull and plain; I know water is important and I do drink it, but it's very tasteless to me.

I live in a hard water area, so my tap water has a rather distinctive flavour :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Otterpop on January 01, 2012, 03:54:51 PM
Our water is hard and has a distinct mineral and chlorine taste.  Makes me nauseous.  I have to force myself to drink it if tap is all there is.  If I'm in a place with clean, fresh well water I'll drink more, but I'm not in the habit of it.  Coffee or diet soda is more to my taste, even though I know water is better for me.

I thoroughly understand people not liking water.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: VorFemme on January 01, 2012, 05:58:35 PM
The limestone water in Kentucky was delicious straight from the tap..............VorGuy still mentions missing it once in a while - we lived there only two years.

The water in Waco, Texas (artesian springs) when I was a kid was good...............it no longer tastes the same - I have to wonder if they've started adding surface water..............

The stuff in San Angelo, Texas was "distinctive" and not good to ME (local reservior was referred to as "Nastywater" instead of "Nasworthy" - especially when the algea were in bloom or the lake was turning over due to weather) - but I moved there in high school.  DD (Ambroisa Hino) was raised there from 18 months to a bit past eight years old - to her, it is the taste of "home". 

I do try to make a point of drinking WATER a couple of times a day - rather than soda, tea, coffee, or even milk - but it is easier when the water tastes "good" instead of being "tasteless" or even bad...............
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Marisol on January 01, 2012, 06:06:58 PM
I used to work with a woman from Alaska. She was constantly amazed at how many people didn't know that Alaska is a state.

You'd be surprised at how many many don't know New Mexico is a state.   ::)

***

I used to be friends with a gal who could not remember names to save her life. We had this conversation more than once:

Her: "I saw this great movie last night."
Me: "What was the name of it?"
Her: "Uh....I don't remember."
Me: "Well, who was in it?"
Her: "That guy....you know...that guy who was in that movie with that other guy...."
Me: *bangs head against the nearest wall*

This sounds like my conversations about movies.  I never remember names unless I really love or hate the actor involved. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: dawnfire on January 01, 2012, 06:18:38 PM
Wow.  I know that the rangers and other people around Forks, WA have been asked "How are you handling the vampire problem?", so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Please tell me you're joking. Please. I can't bear to think that anyone's that stupid . . .

Me too.

lol :) i'd be tempted to reply "as long as`they don't bite people, we're fine"
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on January 01, 2012, 06:51:16 PM
The stuff in San Angelo, Texas was "distinctive" and not good to ME (local reservior was referred to as "Nastywater" instead of "Nasworthy" - especially when the algea were in bloom or the lake was turning over due to weather) - but I moved there in high school.  DD (Ambroisa Hino) was raised there from 18 months to a bit past eight years old - to her, it is the taste of "home".
We never drank the tapwater in San Angelo.  A friend of my father had a good sweet well, and we'd go there and fill up a couple of 5-gallon bottles as needed.  This water was sacred -- it was needed for TEA!!   :D   The tapwater made really bad tea.  It was OK for other uses, though. 

The water here in the Baltimore region is very good, even though Elfqueen drinks bottled water whenever possible.   ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Danismom on January 01, 2012, 07:41:49 PM
We have a Rainsoft water softener system.  Our water is highly filtered.  On top of this, we have a special extra tap in the kitchen for drinking water that goes through additional filters.  There is a huge difference in the way our water tasted before the system was installed and now. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on January 01, 2012, 09:01:47 PM
The two worst tasting water supplies I've ever encountered were both in the Miss. valley-Ruston, LA and Moline, Illinois. When we were in Ruston, my daughter was an infant and we were supplementing with formula. I had to get bottled water to make her formula because she didn't like the tap water either.  :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on January 01, 2012, 10:09:45 PM
The two worst tasting water supplies I've ever encountered were both in the Miss. valley-Ruston, LA and Moline, Illinois. When we were in Ruston, my daughter was an infant and we were supplementing with formula. I had to get bottled water to make her formula because she didn't like the tap water either.  :)

I suspect Key West would give them a run for their money - that water had to be piped in from mainland Florida, which wasn't all that great to begin with :P

The water here is very hard, and I definitely think it has a taste.  I grew up with the water coming from Lake Michigan, less than a mile from my house, and it's just not the same!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on January 01, 2012, 11:13:03 PM
Y'all, can we maybe take the water taste tangent to a spin-off thread? I know I'm interested in hearing more of the funny stories - surely I'm not the only one.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: baglady on January 02, 2012, 12:00:34 AM
Re the pre-med thing: Where I live in the U.S., community colleges are two-year state schools where you can take your first two years toward a four-year bachelor's degree, which you would then complete at a four-year school. So you can be pre-med at community college if you are taking freshman bio and other undergrad courses that students planning to apply to medical school typically take. You just can't *finish* your pre-med studies there, because you need a four-year degree to go to med school.

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Just this evening went round and round with DH.  He swore up, down, and sideways that Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were all lumped together as part of the UK.   He just could not wrap his head around the notion of them being independent countries if they still had the Queen as their titular head.  Commonwealth = UK in his mind.

From "House":

House: (some smart-alec reference to Dr. Chase being British).
Chase: "I'm not British, I'm Australian."
House: "You put the Queen on your money. You're British."

Bagman has a co-worker who insisted that Target (the store chain) was anti-American because it refused to allow some veterans' group to solicit funds outside its stores. And the reason it's anti-American is "It's a French company." What this guy failed to grasp was that (a) Target doesn't allow any organizations to solicit outside its stores, and (b) when people call Target "Tar-zhay," it's. a. joke.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on January 02, 2012, 12:17:24 AM
You forgot (c) this is a very common urban legend that 2 seconds of putting it into Snopes would have shown him.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: oz diva on January 02, 2012, 12:37:03 AM
Exchanges with my mother regularly make my brain hurt. She has a habit of switching subjects with absolutely no warning. So you can be talking about the weather one second and the economy the next. Not a problem if you're not paying too much attention but very distracting otherwise. If I call her on it, she just says, "oh this is a new subject now".  ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on January 02, 2012, 07:23:56 AM
I had a conversation with a friend years ago, when POTC: At World's End came out and he'd seen it maybe once and I'd already seen it about twice, at least. 

There's a scene that has Captain Jack and Davy Jones swordfighting on a yardarm of the Flying Dutchman during a maelstrom while the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman are firing at each other. 

The guy says "Oh, that's not realistic, that goes against the laws of physics!"  I confessed, I laughed at that.   I mean really, within the series we have seen cursed pirates that turned to skeletons in the light of the moon, we had Davy Jones himself who is part man, part squid with a crab claw for one hand and tentacle for the other, along with his ship that has a crew of fishy looking men (and I don't just mean they look suspicious).  We also have a man who comes back from the dead by making his ship flip over in the water, for pete's sake.

Realistic?  That's kind of a steep thing to ask of a movie series that has so much of the supernatural in it!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on January 02, 2012, 09:19:18 AM
I had a conversation with a friend years ago, when POTC: At World's End came out and he'd seen it maybe once and I'd already seen it about twice, at least. 

There's a scene that has Captain Jack and Davy Jones swordfighting on a yardarm of the Flying Dutchman during a maelstrom while the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman are firing at each other. 

The guy says "Oh, that's not realistic, that goes against the laws of physics!"  I confessed, I laughed at that.   I mean really, within the series we have seen cursed pirates that turned to skeletons in the light of the moon, we had Davy Jones himself who is part man, part squid with a crab claw for one hand and tentacle for the other, along with his ship that has a crew of fishy looking men (and I don't just mean they look suspicious).  We also have a man who comes back from the dead by making his ship flip over in the water, for pete's sake.

Realistic?  That's kind of a steep thing to ask of a movie series that has so much of the supernatural in it!

Actually, even when reading/watching speculative fiction stories, there has to be an internal consistency.  We accept Davy Jones' crew because there's a consistency... the viewer would rightfully cry foul if there was, say, a duck person in among the fish people, because the viewer had come to expect they'd all be fish.  Likewise, once we see the evidence of undead pirates, the existence of Tia Dama becomes internally consistent.  But when you then introduce an element that goes against that consistency with no explanation as to why it does, then the viewer becomes jarred by it.

For example, in The Matrix, people can do fantastic things because the world is software.  Then Neo begins doing such things outside the Matrix.  But the series had already established that he was a savior figure known as "The One", so it's acceptable.  If Morpheus began fighting Sentinels hand to hand, the viewer would (rightfully) call shenanigans, because up to that point there was no reason to believe he'd be able to.

tl;dr:  it's not unrealistic to ask for realism in SF.  :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: lady_disdain on January 02, 2012, 10:19:34 AM
I had a conversation with a friend years ago, when POTC: At World's End came out and he'd seen it maybe once and I'd already seen it about twice, at least. 

There's a scene that has Captain Jack and Davy Jones swordfighting on a yardarm of the Flying Dutchman during a maelstrom while the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman are firing at each other. 

The guy says "Oh, that's not realistic, that goes against the laws of physics!"  I confessed, I laughed at that.   I mean really, within the series we have seen cursed pirates that turned to skeletons in the light of the moon, we had Davy Jones himself who is part man, part squid with a crab claw for one hand and tentacle for the other, along with his ship that has a crew of fishy looking men (and I don't just mean they look suspicious).  We also have a man who comes back from the dead by making his ship flip over in the water, for pete's sake.

Realistic?  That's kind of a steep thing to ask of a movie series that has so much of the supernatural in it!

Actually, even when reading/watching speculative fiction stories, there has to be an internal consistency.  We accept Davy Jones' crew because there's a consistency... the viewer would rightfully cry foul if there was, say, a duck person in among the fish people, because the viewer had come to expect they'd all be fish.  Likewise, once we see the evidence of undead pirates, the existence of Tia Dama becomes internally consistent.  But when you then introduce an element that goes against that consistency with no explanation as to why it does, then the viewer becomes jarred by it.

For example, in The Matrix, people can do fantastic things because the world is software.  Then Neo begins doing such things outside the Matrix.  But the series had already established that he was a savior figure known as "The One", so it's acceptable.  If Morpheus began fighting Sentinels hand to hand, the viewer would (rightfully) call shenanigans, because up to that point there was no reason to believe he'd be able to.

tl;dr:  it's not unrealistic to ask for realism in SF.  :)

Thank you for that! Internal consistency is very important to me and I get seriously annoyed when writers add things in willy-nilly without a thought for consistency.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: 2littlemonkeys on January 02, 2012, 10:34:26 AM
Here's a conversation I seem to keep having with a relative.  The background is that she very rarely drinks water.  She prefers soda.

Her: "I'm thirsty.  What can I take for that?"
Me: "uh...water?"
Her: "No...I don't feel thirsty for water." *cracks open a soda*

Soda is a diuretic.  I'm not terribly surprised she's thirsty.  I've tried to explain this to her but I'd have better luck convincing the cat.

I rarely drink water myself.  It makes me feel nauseous.  I'm not sure why, it may be something about the hardness, but even our filtered water causes that problem.  The only way I can handle it is with a *lot* of ice so that it's too cold for me to notice the taste.  My favorite drink is iced tea, but I think it's less of a diuretic because it's weak decaffeinated tea with sucralose instead of sugar.  My understanding is that it's the caffeine that makes soda/coffee/tea diuretics.  At least, I hope so.  :)

Really?  I drink it over most anything else, so I guess I never thought it made people sick.  From what I gather, she just doesn't like it because it has no taste.  Dh and I tend to use homeopathy when appropriate and she thinks we have all the magic cures for every ailment known to man.  I got nothin' for thirst and have suggested she see her doctor to rule out serious medical causes but so far, she's content to complain.

And I do believe it's the caffeine that is the diuretic, so you should be good.  Even regular tea doesn't have as much as soda or coffee. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on January 02, 2012, 10:50:12 AM
Re: water making people feel sick.  A regular sized glass of water (or a 500ml bottle) will make me feel bloated and queasy.  There's no other drink... even sugar-free drink mix types that you put *into* a 500ml bottle of water... that does that to me.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on January 02, 2012, 11:34:53 AM
I often put just a little squirt of unsweetened lemon juice or the juice from a wedge of lemon into my water. I like tart flavors, so I like the the little lemon flavor in the water.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: blue2000 on January 02, 2012, 11:43:01 AM
Here's a conversation I seem to keep having with a relative.  The background is that she very rarely drinks water.  She prefers soda.

Her: "I'm thirsty.  What can I take for that?"
Me: "uh...water?"
Her: "No...I don't feel thirsty for water." *cracks open a soda*

Soda is a diuretic.  I'm not terribly surprised she's thirsty.  I've tried to explain this to her but I'd have better luck convincing the cat.

I rarely drink water myself.  It makes me feel nauseous.  I'm not sure why, it may be something about the hardness, but even our filtered water causes that problem.  The only way I can handle it is with a *lot* of ice so that it's too cold for me to notice the taste.  My favorite drink is iced tea, but I think it's less of a diuretic because it's weak decaffeinated tea with sucralose instead of sugar.  My understanding is that it's the caffeine that makes soda/coffee/tea diuretics.  At least, I hope so.  :)

Really?  I drink it over most anything else, so I guess I never thought it made people sick.  From what I gather, she just doesn't like it because it has no taste.  Dh and I tend to use homeopathy when appropriate and she thinks we have all the magic cures for every ailment known to man.  I got nothin' for thirst and have suggested she see her doctor to rule out serious medical causes but so far, she's content to complain.

And I do believe it's the caffeine that is the diuretic, so you should be good.  Even regular tea doesn't have as much as soda or coffee. 

You mean she asked you for a homeopathic cure for thirst??

I don't think my brain is hurting from that one  - I think it is giggling quietly to itself.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: weeblewobble on January 02, 2012, 11:59:53 AM
My beloved MIL was doing her Christmas baking on Dec. 23.  She called my cell while I happened to be out and asked if I wouldn't mind picking up baking powder for her, as she had run out.  I went to the super-duper-discount store close to my house in an effort to avoid the grocery/mall area and its traffic.  I went to the tiny baking area and all I saw was baking soda.  I asked a clerk if the baking powder was in some other area of the grocery section.

She gave me a blank look, as if I was an idiot, and handed me a box of baking soda.  I said, "No.  I'm sorry.  I need baking powder."

Clerk said, "This is powder."

"Yes, but it's baking soda.  I need baking powder."

"They're the same thing," she insisted.

"No, they're not."

"THIS IS POWDER!" she said, a bit too loud for my liking.  I thanked her and left the store.

I ended up braving the grocery for the baking powder.  I dropped it off at MIL's house.  She met me at the door with a sheepish expression and admitted that none of the recipes she had left for the day required baking powder. She didn't realize until after she called.  To make up for it, she'd already boxed up two dozen of her delicious chocolate drop cookies as an apology, and called her son to tell him to take me out for Chinese food that night.

On the upside, we have a new catchphrase at our house when we don't think someone understands us, "THIS IS POWDER."

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on January 02, 2012, 12:59:44 PM
Gah! Anyone who bakes knows that baking powder and baking soda are different things, even though soda is a 'powder'. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Lovemykids on January 02, 2012, 01:00:59 PM
Exchanges with my mother regularly make my brain hurt. She has a habit of switching subjects with absolutely no warning. So you can be talking about the weather one second and the economy the next. Not a problem if you're not paying too much attention but very distracting otherwise. If I call her on it, she just says, "oh this is a new subject now".  ::)

We do this in my family all the time, except that we always precede the subject change with a statement such as, "Completely new topic . . .," or "Complete change of subject here."  We also tend to pick up conversations that were begun hours or days ago, and often don't have to tell the other person that we're picking up where we left off.  I would think that others listening to one of our conversations would begin to have brain pain ;).
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mlkind1789 on January 02, 2012, 01:16:35 PM
The difference is that my SIL was putting a community college on a par with Tulane and they just will not be. 

I haven't heard of any community colleges that offer a 4 year pre med degree.  I know you can do basics there, but not all 4 years.  DD has already started getting college credit in her science requirements and will be picking up more science, plus math and English next school year.

Actually most Med Schools won't generally take pre-requisite courses from a Community College...I suppose you  could perhaps do two years at a CC and then all the pre-reqs at a 4 year university but that would be tough.  Med Schools want you to be able to take and succeed in challenging courses.

That's why I'm hoping she goes with an in-state school.  I really don't feel like fighting over getting her credit for the classes she is taking in high school and the credits are through a state university here.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on January 02, 2012, 01:27:13 PM
My beloved MIL was doing her Christmas baking on Dec. 23.  She called my cell while I happened to be out and asked if I wouldn't mind picking up baking powder for her, as she had run out.  I went to the super-duper-discount store close to my house in an effort to avoid the grocery/mall area and its traffic.  I went to the tiny baking area and all I saw was baking soda.  I asked a clerk if the baking powder was in some other area of the grocery section.

She gave me a blank look, as if I was an idiot, and handed me a box of baking soda.  I said, "No.  I'm sorry.  I need baking powder."

Clerk said, "This is powder."

"Yes, but it's baking soda.  I need baking powder."

"They're the same thing," she insisted.

"No, they're not."

"THIS IS POWDER!" she said, a bit too loud for my liking.  I thanked her and left the store.

I ended up braving the grocery for the baking powder.  I dropped it off at MIL's house.  She met me at the door with a sheepish expression and admitted that none of the recipes she had left for the day required baking powder. She didn't realize until after she called.  To make up for it, she'd already boxed up two dozen of her delicious chocolate drop cookies as an apology, and called her son to tell him to take me out for Chinese food that night.

On the upside, we have a new catchphrase at our house when we don't think someone understands us, "THIS IS POWDER."

As you, I am afraid I would have looked her directly in the eyes and said, "No, baking powder and baking soda are different. Please call me the first time you bake and mix them up."

If I were your mother in law, I never would have admitted that I didn't need it after all. Just smiled and said, "Thank you so much! You are a lifesaver!" And never admitted it 30 years later................can you tell there is a history here? (And I'm the one who says to never, ever lie! Guess I found my place of fail now.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on January 02, 2012, 01:54:24 PM
I was out of baking powder once, so I went next door and asked to borrow some from my neighbor. She went inside and came back with a box of baking soda.

Um...thanks...

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on January 02, 2012, 01:58:10 PM
I guess it shows how little I bake, as I have never used either and so would not know the difference.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: 2littlemonkeys on January 02, 2012, 02:00:40 PM
Here's a conversation I seem to keep having with a relative.  The background is that she very rarely drinks water.  She prefers soda.

Her: "I'm thirsty.  What can I take for that?"
Me: "uh...water?"
Her: "No...I don't feel thirsty for water." *cracks open a soda*

Soda is a diuretic.  I'm not terribly surprised she's thirsty.  I've tried to explain this to her but I'd have better luck convincing the cat.

I rarely drink water myself.  It makes me feel nauseous.  I'm not sure why, it may be something about the hardness, but even our filtered water causes that problem.  The only way I can handle it is with a *lot* of ice so that it's too cold for me to notice the taste.  My favorite drink is iced tea, but I think it's less of a diuretic because it's weak decaffeinated tea with sucralose instead of sugar.  My understanding is that it's the caffeine that makes soda/coffee/tea diuretics.  At least, I hope so.  :)

Really?  I drink it over most anything else, so I guess I never thought it made people sick.  From what I gather, she just doesn't like it because it has no taste.  Dh and I tend to use homeopathy when appropriate and she thinks we have all the magic cures for every ailment known to man.  I got nothin' for thirst and have suggested she see her doctor to rule out serious medical causes but so far, she's content to complain.

And I do believe it's the caffeine that is the diuretic, so you should be good.  Even regular tea doesn't have as much as soda or coffee. 

You mean she asked you for a homeopathic cure for thirst??

I don't think my brain is hurting from that one  - I think it is giggling quietly to itself.

Well, I'm making the assumption but because she keeps asking me what to "take" for it, I'm thinking that's what she's getting at.  Especially since the obvious answer is a nonstarter.  At first, I thought she meant water wasn't getting the job done and that's when I suggested she talk to her doctor but that wasn't what she wanted.  I don't know of anything for that.  And I wouldn't mess with that without finding the cause for the thirst in the first place.

And I had no idea so many people hated water!  Learn something new every day, LOL.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: weeblewobble on January 02, 2012, 02:31:55 PM
My beloved MIL was doing her Christmas baking on Dec. 23.  She called my cell while I happened to be out and asked if I wouldn't mind picking up baking powder for her, as she had run out.  I went to the super-duper-discount store close to my house in an effort to avoid the grocery/mall area and its traffic.  I went to the tiny baking area and all I saw was baking soda.  I asked a clerk if the baking powder was in some other area of the grocery section.

She gave me a blank look, as if I was an idiot, and handed me a box of baking soda.  I said, "No.  I'm sorry.  I need baking powder."

Clerk said, "This is powder."

"Yes, but it's baking soda.  I need baking powder."

"They're the same thing," she insisted.

"No, they're not."

"THIS IS POWDER!" she said, a bit too loud for my liking.  I thanked her and left the store.

I ended up braving the grocery for the baking powder.  I dropped it off at MIL's house.  She met me at the door with a sheepish expression and admitted that none of the recipes she had left for the day required baking powder. She didn't realize until after she called.  To make up for it, she'd already boxed up two dozen of her delicious chocolate drop cookies as an apology, and called her son to tell him to take me out for Chinese food that night.

On the upside, we have a new catchphrase at our house when we don't think someone understands us, "THIS IS POWDER."

As you, I am afraid I would have looked her directly in the eyes and said, "No, baking powder and baking soda are different. Please call me the first time you bake and mix them up."

If I were your mother in law, I never would have admitted that I didn't need it after all. Just smiled and said, "Thank you so much! You are a lifesaver!" And never admitted it 30 years later................can you tell there is a history here? (And I'm the one who says to never, ever lie! Guess I found my place of fail now.)

My MIL is really bad at lying. (which is a good thing)  I think the guiit probably would have ground away at her until I bit into a cookie on Christmas Eve and she yelled, "I DIDN'T NEED THE BAKING POWDER!" like something out of The Tell-Tale Heart.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jedikaiti on January 02, 2012, 02:59:18 PM
Gah! Anyone who bakes knows that baking powder and baking soda are different things, even though soda is a 'powder'.

Yes, but my BF the Chef still confuses me every time he tells me to use "bicarb" in a recipe. He means baking powder.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: artk2002 on January 02, 2012, 04:54:18 PM
Gah! Anyone who bakes knows that baking powder and baking soda are different things, even though soda is a 'powder'.

Yes, but my BF the Chef still confuses me every time he tells me to use "bicarb" in a recipe. He means baking powder.

Interesting, since I would assume he meant baking soda, not baking powder. Baking soda is (mostly) pure bicarbonate of soda. Baking powder is bicarbonate plus some other stuff.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: oz diva on January 02, 2012, 05:56:43 PM
Exchanges with my mother regularly make my brain hurt. She has a habit of switching subjects with absolutely no warning. So you can be talking about the weather one second and the economy the next. Not a problem if you're not paying too much attention but very distracting otherwise. If I call her on it, she just says, "oh this is a new subject now".  ::)

We do this in my family all the time, except that we always precede the subject change with a statement such as, "Completely new topic . . .," or "Complete change of subject here."  We also tend to pick up conversations that were begun hours or days ago, and often don't have to tell the other person that we're picking up where we left off.  I would think that others listening to one of our conversations would begin to have brain pain ;).

Well that would make life easier, but she never alerts you to the change of subject.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kckgirl on January 02, 2012, 06:52:29 PM
My mother very regularly stops in the middle of the sentence. That really makes my brain hurt!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on January 02, 2012, 08:09:23 PM
The limestone water in Kentucky was delicious straight from the tap..............VorGuy still mentions missing it once in a while - we lived there only two years.

The water in Waco, Texas (artesian springs) when I was a kid was good...............it no longer tastes the same - I have to wonder if they've started adding surface water..............

The stuff in San Angelo, Texas was "distinctive" and not good to ME (local reservior was referred to as "Nastywater" instead of "Nasworthy" - especially when the algea were in bloom or the lake was turning over due to weather) - but I moved there in high school.  DD (Ambroisa Hino) was raised there from 18 months to a bit past eight years old - to her, it is the taste of "home". 

I do try to make a point of drinking WATER a couple of times a day - rather than soda, tea, coffee, or even milk - but it is easier when the water tastes "good" instead of being "tasteless" or even bad...............


If you leave San Angelo water sitting for a while - white flakes start to settle out of it.


Georgetown water - When I started at Southwestern - they warned you DO NOT DRINK THE WATER. The first week or so of school people would come down with the grundge from drinking the water (tummy upset). It was amazing to go to the story and see a whole aisle devoted to bottled water. At that point in Houston you would see distilled water (for irons and stuff) and that was pretty much it.


As a kid I was always amazed at how cold water the water from the tap was on PEI. When I was 8 or 9 was playing while my Dad and Uncles talking about house construction and realized it was because in Houston our pipes run through the attic, and on PEI they go through the basement/ground.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Kimblee on January 02, 2012, 08:47:23 PM
This thread reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend back in high school.

We were talking, and I mentioned that I was excited for something that either my boyfriend or his family or something had mailed to me. My boyfriend and his family are Canadian and live obviously in Canada.

Friend: How do they mail things in Canada? Do they have post offices like we do?
Me:  :o *almost falling of stool* Yes Friend, they have post offices. I believe it's just called Canada Post, just like how we have the United States Postal Service.
Friend: Oh. Right. Yeah they'd have to have post offices.
Me: I'm pretty sure they use UPS and FedEx too, but everything I've ever gotten just comes in a standard Canada Post box.
Friend: *genuine excitement about this and subject change*

It's the first and hopefully last time I'll be asked if another country has post offices. And my friend was completely serious too.

Ah, here in Belgium we still send all our mail with pigeons.
Even our email.
 ;D

How do you mail a pigeon, should you need to?

hy you put it in a box and hot glue the feet of six mail pigeons to it and hope they all decide to fly the same way.

If they don't it might take awhile for the box to get it destination.

-Miss Information.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: aka on January 02, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
Some (most? all?) of these stories make me fear for the future and the people who will one day be running things that affect me.

Have you ever seen the move Idiocracy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/))?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BarensMom on January 02, 2012, 09:54:41 PM
Exchanges with my mother regularly make my brain hurt. She has a habit of switching subjects with absolutely no warning. So you can be talking about the weather one second and the economy the next. Not a problem if you're not paying too much attention but very distracting otherwise. If I call her on it, she just says, "oh this is a new subject now".  ::)

We do this in my family all the time, except that we always precede the subject change with a statement such as, "Completely new topic . . .," or "Complete change of subject here."  We also tend to pick up conversations that were begun hours or days ago, and often don't have to tell the other person that we're picking up where we left off.  I would think that others listening to one of our conversations would begin to have brain pain ;).

Well that would make life easier, but she never alerts you to the change of subject.

"And now for something completely different..."

(It was just hanging out there in space waiting to be said)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: onikenbai on January 03, 2012, 01:47:17 AM
I was at a friends house the night before the Royal Wedding and we were discussing if we were going to get up early in the morning to watch it. We are all Canadian. One guy said, "I don't give a *bleep* about it, we didn't fight a war with England for nothing."

Well, I guess we lost really bad then considering the Queen is on our money lol.

We did fight a war with the British... we just fought on the same side!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: onikenbai on January 03, 2012, 01:58:18 AM
Also, we apparently got the British army addicted to Tim Horton's in Afghanistan so they are looking for an excuse to come on over.

The Americans as well, that Timmies was paid off in record time ;D
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I don't think that Timmies was ever meant to make money, but I wouldn't be surprised if they actually broke even.  It closed up shop about five weeks ago and most Canadians didn't actually believe that Canada was pulling out of Afghanistan until the Timmies left.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Adelaide on January 03, 2012, 03:22:14 AM
This happened to me yesterday. A friend invited me to her casual birthday dinner at a restaurant and asked if 9:30 p.m. would be okay. I said that no, it wouldn't, as I had plans later. (As it was just going to be me driving a friend and her driving another friend she was kind of loose with the time and didn't care.) The exchange took place via text message.

Her: Is 9:30 okay?
Me: No, sorry, I have to go do XYZ later and won't be able to make it unless we go a little earlier.
Her: We can go earlier if you want, I don't get off work for awhile though.
Me: I can do 9.
Her: Ok! We'll see you there!

My friend and I show up at 9. She's not there. We look around. Ask the host. He's never heard of her. I call her at 9:10 and ask her where she is, to which she says she'll be there at 9:30. Confused, I just say that I'll see her then and that my friend and I are already there. I didn't want to talk about why she was wasn't coming until 9:30 while we were on the phone so I waited until she showed up.

Me: Where were you? I thought we said 9?
Her: Oh! I thought you meant 9:30 was okay.
Me: I have the text right here! It says "I can do 9"!
Her: Ya...but I thought you were like, abbreviating 9:30 to 9 or something!
Me:  So you didn't think when I said "I can only go earlier" it would be a little weird of me to agree to 9:30 after all?
Her: Well...no, I thought you meant you could do 9:30 after all!
Me: :o

As it was her birthday I dropped the issue. I don't think she was lying, she seriously thought that's what I meant. But...my head still hurts.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: iridaceae on January 03, 2012, 05:36:26 AM
The reason Vietnam wasn't covered in History when I was going through school ('80s) is that there was a possibility that some students could have had family members die there.


I went to school in a city that was noted for anti-Viet Nam riots at the University- as well as the largest civilian bombing in US history until the first World Trade Center attack. I was in high school in the 70s and 80s and Magnum had not yet made it right enough to be proud of being a Viet Nam war vet (yes, the show really is credited with helping make it right to say "I was in Viet Nam").

I took a political science class my senior year and my teacher tried desperately to find a Viet Nam vet to come talk to us. he could not find one. One of the major reasons was that, as noted above, people didn't want to admit it. Another was that many were not yet able to talk about their experiences.

********

I had a guest the other night who wanted us to make a guest be quiet but refused to let us talk to the guest to inform her that she was making noise because he was afraid she'd know it was him complaining.  I sent my security guards down to check for noise anyhow and they heard nothing. 

He called twice to know how we were resolving the issue. Um, you wouldn't let us resolve it by refusing to let us talk to the guest.

He didn't understand why we couldn't resolve this issue.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Irishkitty on January 03, 2012, 08:56:34 AM
I will say, I hate trying to decipher the ship to "ONTARIO CA" comments in the system at work because CA is both the country code for Canada and the state code for California and people don't always think a zip code is necessary.  The country, of course, is "obvious."  ::)
well, Ontario is a province. If they were shipping to our glorious province, they'd need a town or city! Were pretty big, so a package for Suzy in Ontario isn't going to get anywhere (and die a slow lonely death at the post office while postal workers mock it for not having a city.) But Ontario, CA is an actual specific place, no further refinement (except for postal zip thingy) needed. I'd be assuming everything labeled Ontario CA is for cali.

or are there a not-really surprisingly large number of people who think they can get away with sending something to Canada armed only with name and province (not even a postal code)?

Ok, jumping the gun a bit (as I'm only on page 8 ) but a nice O/T sidetrack- there was someone who wrote a letter to Richard Whitley (spl?) may he rest in peace, he was the host of a UK TV show called "Countdown". The writer addressed the envelope to "Mr. Richard Whitley, England" or somesuch.

It got to him! About 16 Richard Whitleys later :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Thipu1 on January 03, 2012, 09:14:20 AM
On a long distance bus the other day we were seated in front of a gentleman who delivered a couple of real howlers that we couldn't help hearing.

He asked the woman traveling with him what Tommy Chong did when he wasn't a martial arts star.  Wasn't he a chef?  Oh, the possibilities there!

He also asked if a town in England was located in 'Londonshire'.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on January 03, 2012, 09:36:43 AM
Exchanges with my mother regularly make my brain hurt. She has a habit of switching subjects with absolutely no warning. So you can be talking about the weather one second and the economy the next. Not a problem if you're not paying too much attention but very distracting otherwise. If I call her on it, she just says, "oh this is a new subject now".  ::)

We do this in my family all the time, except that we always precede the subject change with a statement such as, "Completely new topic . . .," or "Complete change of subject here."  We also tend to pick up conversations that were begun hours or days ago, and often don't have to tell the other person that we're picking up where we left off.  I would think that others listening to one of our conversations would begin to have brain pain ;).

Well that would make life easier, but she never alerts you to the change of subject.

"And now for something completely different..."


(It was just hanging out there in space waiting to be said)

A man with three buttocks! :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Ferrets on January 03, 2012, 10:25:54 AM
Ok, jumping the gun a bit (as I'm only on page 8 ) but a nice O/T sidetrack- there was someone who wrote a letter to Richard Whitley (spl?) may he rest in peace, he was the host of a UK TV show called "Countdown". The writer addressed the envelope to "Mr. Richard Whitley, England" or somesuch.

It got to him! About 16 Richard Whitleys later :)

Royal Mail can be pretty efficient like that. :) (Sometimes. ;))

I'm reminded of Bill Bryson's story:

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...not long before I departed from England, the Royal Mail had brought me, within forty-eight hours of its posting in London, a letter addressed to "Bill Bryson, Writer, Yorkshire Dales," which is a pretty impressive bit of sleuthing. (And never mind that the correspondent was a trifle off his head.)

 - Bill Bryson, 'Mail Call' (http://www.randomhouse.com/features/billbryson/excerpts.html)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Grancalla on January 03, 2012, 10:51:07 AM
Here's a conversation I seem to keep having with a relative.  The background is that she very rarely drinks water.  She prefers soda.

Her: "I'm thirsty.  What can I take for that?"
Me: "uh...water?"
Her: "No...I don't feel thirsty for water." *cracks open a soda*

Soda is a diuretic.  I'm not terribly surprised she's thirsty.  I've tried to explain this to her but I'd have better luck convincing the cat.

I rarely drink water myself.  It makes me feel nauseous.  I'm not sure why, it may be something about the hardness, but even our filtered water causes that problem.  The only way I can handle it is with a *lot* of ice so that it's too cold for me to notice the taste.  My favorite drink is iced tea, but I think it's less of a diuretic because it's weak decaffeinated tea with sucralose instead of sugar.  My understanding is that it's the caffeine that makes soda/coffee/tea diuretics.  At least, I hope so.  :)

Really?  I drink it over most anything else, so I guess I never thought it made people sick.  From what I gather, she just doesn't like it because it has no taste.  Dh and I tend to use homeopathy when appropriate and she thinks we have all the magic cures for every ailment known to man.  I got nothin' for thirst and have suggested she see her doctor to rule out serious medical causes but so far, she's content to complain.

And I do believe it's the caffeine that is the diuretic, so you should be good.  Even regular tea doesn't have as much as soda or coffee. 

You mean she asked you for a homeopathic cure for thirst??

I don't think my brain is hurting from that one  - I think it is giggling quietly to itself.

I'm reminded of a scene from an old sci-fi cartoon. The good guys had just dragged the hero back from some life-threatening situation, and one of them orders another to bring the "dehydration serum". Must be that super-technological space water.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 03, 2012, 12:13:54 PM
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I'm reminded of a scene from an old sci-fi cartoon. The good guys had just dragged the hero back from some life-threatening situation, and one of them orders another to bring the "dehydration serum". Must be that super-technological space water.
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Maybe that's how Marvin the Martian made the dehydrated Martians in the vending machine.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Lovemykids on January 03, 2012, 12:22:32 PM
Gah! Anyone who bakes knows that baking powder and baking soda are different things, even though soda is a 'powder'.

Yes, but my BF the Chef still confuses me every time he tells me to use "bicarb" in a recipe. He means baking powder.

Interesting, since I would assume he meant baking soda, not baking powder. Baking soda is (mostly) pure bicarbonate of soda. Baking powder is bicarbonate plus some other stuff.

I would have thought that "bicarb" would be soda as well.  And I discovered you can use baking powder if you are out of soda when I was making banana bread the other day and discovered I was out of soda.  I looked it up and found I needed to use 3-4 times the amount of baking powder as the measurement of soda I needed, and then alter the salt in the recipe.  The banana bread came out fairly well, so I'll remember that next time . . .
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: WhiteTigerCub on January 03, 2012, 12:40:31 PM
The difference is that my SIL was putting a community college on a par with Tulane and they just will not be. 

I haven't heard of any community colleges that offer a 4 year pre med degree.  I know you can do basics there, but not all 4 years.  DD has already started getting college credit in her science requirements and will be picking up more science, plus math and English next school year.

Actually most Med Schools won't generally take pre-requisite courses from a Community College...I suppose you  could perhaps do two years at a CC and then all the pre-reqs at a 4 year university but that would be tough.  Med Schools want you to be able to take and succeed in challenging courses.

Generally the Med School will accept a pre-requisite course if it meets a set upon guideline of course content. Some community colleges follow the same course curriculm guidelines when offering a 2 year program or to provide the more 'general' course requirements that are needed for a vast majority of any 4 year degree such as English 101 & 102, Math Courses (above 100 course numbers) Humanity, Science, etc.

A copy of the course number and sylabus can be submitted to determine if it can be applied toward the med degree requirements.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Miss Misha on January 03, 2012, 02:41:16 PM
There was a person I knew who insisted that scientists could tell Da Vinci had a 4,000 IQ.

I don't even know.

That reminds me of a very special co-worker I once had. He claimed an IQ of around 700. When it was pointed out to him that IQ measurements don't go that high, he informed us that he scored 100% on his IQ test.

He also claimed to have trained his sister's cat to not shed.

Wow!  He should come to my house and do that to the huskies! >:D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Virg on January 03, 2012, 04:00:38 PM
Piratelvr1121 wrote:

"There's a scene that has Captain Jack and Davy Jones swordfighting on a yardarm of the Flying Dutchman during a maelstrom while the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman are firing at each other.

The guy says "Oh, that's not realistic, that goes against the laws of physics!""

My wife did that once.  We were watching Dragonheart and she confessed that she didn't like it.  When I asked her why, she said (I kid you not), "It's unrealistic."

"Um, what?" sez I.

"In real life a dragon couldn't turn like that."

(insert needle-scratch sound here).

Virg
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: afbluebelle on January 03, 2012, 05:41:58 PM
Also, we apparently got the British army addicted to Tim Horton's in Afghanistan so they are looking for an excuse to come on over.

The Americans as well, that Timmies was paid off in record time ;D

I don't think that Timmies was ever meant to make money, but I wouldn't be surprised if they actually broke even.  It closed up shop about five weeks ago and most Canadians didn't actually believe that Canada was pulling out of Afghanistan until the Timmies left.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 :'( I'm putting in my two weeks notice and quitting the Air Force. There is no fight worth fighting if I can't get my 12 grain bagel and a coffee  :'(
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 03, 2012, 07:31:39 PM
Piratelvr1121 wrote:

"There's a scene that has Captain Jack and Davy Jones swordfighting on a yardarm of the Flying Dutchman during a maelstrom while the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman are firing at each other.

The guy says "Oh, that's not realistic, that goes against the laws of physics!""

My wife did that once.  We were watching Dragonheart and she confessed that she didn't like it.  When I asked her why, she said (I kid you not), "It's unrealistic."

"Um, what?" sez I.

"In real life a dragon couldn't turn like that."

(insert needle-scratch sound here).

Virg

I would totally do that. I like the explanation of 'internal consistency' that someone suggested earlier. My attitude is more or less "Okay, film-maker, I have met you half way. I have agreed to suspend my understanding of surface area to volume ratios and basic physics and accept that this dragon is real. That's fine, I've done my bit. Now you want me to ignore SKELETAL STRUCTURE as well?! I think not!! You have betrayed me!"

Because come on, there are limits.  ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Adelaide on January 03, 2012, 09:06:31 PM
Piratelvr1121 wrote:

"There's a scene that has Captain Jack and Davy Jones swordfighting on a yardarm of the Flying Dutchman during a maelstrom while the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman are firing at each other.

The guy says "Oh, that's not realistic, that goes against the laws of physics!""

My wife did that once.  We were watching Dragonheart and she confessed that she didn't like it.  When I asked her why, she said (I kid you not), "It's unrealistic."

"Um, what?" sez I.

"In real life a dragon couldn't turn like that."

(insert needle-scratch sound here).

Virg

I would totally do that. I like the explanation of 'internal consistency' that someone suggested earlier. My attitude is more or less "Okay, film-maker, I have met you half way. I have agreed to suspend my understanding of surface area to volume ratios and basic physics and accept that this dragon is real. That's fine, I've done my bit. Now you want me to ignore SKELETAL STRUCTURE as well?! I think not!! You have betrayed me!"

Because come on, there are limits.  ;D

I'm the same way. My mother calls me "the movie-ruiner" when I say stuff like that. xD
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Autumn45 on January 03, 2012, 11:25:45 PM
I was at a friends house the night before the Royal Wedding and we were discussing if we were going to get up early in the morning to watch it. We are all Canadian. One guy said, "I don't give a *bleep* about it, we didn't fight a war with England for nothing."

Well, I guess we lost really bad then considering the Queen is on our money lol.

We did fight a war with the British... we just fought on the same side!

Your friend is somewhat correct, especially if he is French-Canadian and/or from Quebec.  In the 1760s during the Seven Year War (as it is known in Canada)/the French-Indian War (as it is known in the U.S.), the British and the French fought against each other in their North American colonies (New France for France, and the 13 Colonies for the British).  At the end of the war, the French lost New France (todays Quebec and Atlantic provinces) to the British.  So therefore part of Canada fought the British, and lost. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on January 03, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
Piratelvr1121 wrote:

"There's a scene that has Captain Jack and Davy Jones swordfighting on a yardarm of the Flying Dutchman during a maelstrom while the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman are firing at each other.

The guy says "Oh, that's not realistic, that goes against the laws of physics!""

My wife did that once.  We were watching Dragonheart and she confessed that she didn't like it.  When I asked her why, she said (I kid you not), "It's unrealistic."

"Um, what?" sez I.

"In real life a dragon couldn't turn like that."

(insert needle-scratch sound here).

Virg

I would totally do that. I like the explanation of 'internal consistency' that someone suggested earlier. My attitude is more or less "Okay, film-maker, I have met you half way. I have agreed to suspend my understanding of surface area to volume ratios and basic physics and accept that this dragon is real. That's fine, I've done my bit. Now you want me to ignore SKELETAL STRUCTURE as well?! I think not!! You have betrayed me!"

Because come on, there are limits.  ;D

I think it has something to do with consistency throughout the story, too.  The hero can hypnotize people and mind control them with his magic powers at the big climactic scene?  Great!  Then why didn't he do it ten minutes into the movie when the bad guys first showed up and kidnapped his sister?  Unless there's something really obvious dealing with character growth (the hero acquires mutant powers halfway through the movie, for instance) it can really be jarring when you're watching along and suddenly PLOTHOLE!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Fleur-de-Lis on January 03, 2012, 11:57:48 PM
Piratelvr1121 wrote:

"There's a scene that has Captain Jack and Davy Jones swordfighting on a yardarm of the Flying Dutchman during a maelstrom while the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman are firing at each other.

The guy says "Oh, that's not realistic, that goes against the laws of physics!""

My wife did that once.  We were watching Dragonheart and she confessed that she didn't like it.  When I asked her why, she said (I kid you not), "It's unrealistic."

"Um, what?" sez I.

"In real life a dragon couldn't turn like that."

(insert needle-scratch sound here).

Virg

I would totally do that. I like the explanation of 'internal consistency' that someone suggested earlier. My attitude is more or less "Okay, film-maker, I have met you half way. I have agreed to suspend my understanding of surface area to volume ratios and basic physics and accept that this dragon is real. That's fine, I've done my bit. Now you want me to ignore SKELETAL STRUCTURE as well?! I think not!! You have betrayed me!"

Because come on, there are limits.  ;D

I call it demanding a Cirque du Soleil level of suspension of disbelief. Sometimes my disbelief just isn't that acrobatic.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: WolfWay on January 04, 2012, 02:35:14 AM
I'm reminded of a scene from an old sci-fi cartoon. The good guys had just dragged the hero back from some life-threatening situation, and one of them orders another to bring the "dehydration serum". Must be that super-technological space water.
I can only guess that since alcohol has a diuretic and dehydrating effect, he was asking for a stiff drink (what with the near death experience).  ;) (I think I'm going to be referring to my drinks as "Dehydration Serum" from now on.)  ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MariaE on January 04, 2012, 05:22:14 AM
I used to work with a woman from Alaska. She was constantly amazed at how many people didn't know that Alaska is a state.

Recently I was with a friend as she was closing out an investment account shortly before moving out of state. There was a question about whether her current representative would be able to help her or not based on which state she would actually be living in at the time the transaction was completed. He at first insisted he was not licensed in the state she was moving to and would therefore have to turn her file over to someone else to handle. On the visit where I was with her, he then said he actually WAS licensed in that state. This guy was rude and flaky on lots of counts so when he said this she was a bit taken aback and asked for proof since he clearly didn't know where he was licensed and where he wasn't. He got all huffy and said, "There are fifty-some-odd states! I can't remember all of them!"

We looked at each other and I mumbled something about how I was under the impression there were exactly fifty states.

We still joke about that!

I have a friend who develops geographic software, who insisted one day at lunch that Hawaii was the 51st state. I had him look it up on his smart phone, but clearly Google was wrong. We were eating next to city hall, which was flying an American flag, so we sat there and counted stars, but city hall also was wrong, and was apparently flying a 50 year old flag. Eventually he said, "Let's just agree to disagree." Uh, yeah, no. You're wrong, I'm right.

Shoulda asked him to name all 51 states. See what he adds in.

I have an encyclopaedia that lists Washington D.C. as a state. Really, really, really annoying when I only brought out the encyclopaedia in the first place to prove to a friend that USA only has 50 states.

Living in Denmark and spending much time online, I get geographical confusion constantly. Look, I know Denmark is a really small country, but still!
"What country is Denmark the capital of?"
"Denmark, that's the capital of Oslo, right?" (and no, they didn't just get the names switched around).
"You're from Denmark? I didn't know you spoke Dutch!" (I don't - I do speak Danish though).
"Ahh... Denmark... the land of free hash!" (What is it with people constantly mixing up Denmark and the Netherlands?!?!?!).


Re. maths making your head hurt: I have a friend who simply doesn't get negative numbers. They make no sense to her. She's got no problems with maths otherwise - just negative numbers.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MariaE on January 04, 2012, 07:23:40 AM
Piratelvr1121 wrote:

"There's a scene that has Captain Jack and Davy Jones swordfighting on a yardarm of the Flying Dutchman during a maelstrom while the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman are firing at each other.

The guy says "Oh, that's not realistic, that goes against the laws of physics!""

My wife did that once.  We were watching Dragonheart and she confessed that she didn't like it.  When I asked her why, she said (I kid you not), "It's unrealistic."

"Um, what?" sez I.

"In real life a dragon couldn't turn like that."

(insert needle-scratch sound here).

Virg

My exact response when somebody disses Twilight* by saying "But real vampires don't sparkle!"
Real vampires? Really?  ???  ::)

(*Diss it all you want, but if you use that (or similar) reasons, I will roll my eyes at you.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on January 04, 2012, 08:30:06 AM
Can you name Santa's 8 reindeer? (As per Dickens, of course.)

What about Rudolph? Oh, he's fictional!

(We will not get into the Donder/Donner name. Even Hallmark doesn't get that one!)

ed: I mispelled Rudolph, but no one seemed to care. Oh, well. (Moore, not Dickens, corrected by later posters.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: starry diadem on January 04, 2012, 08:39:05 AM
Can you name Santa's 8 reindeer? (As per Dickens, of course.)

What about Rudolf? Oh, he's fictional!

(We will not get into the Donder/Donner name. Even Hallmark doesn't get that one!)

Dickens?  I don't remember reindeer in Dickens.   Do you mean the Clement Moore 'Night before Christmas' poem?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on January 04, 2012, 09:13:52 AM
Can you name Santa's 8 reindeer? (As per Dickens, of course.)

What about Rudolf? Oh, he's fictional!

(We will not get into the Donder/Donner name. Even Hallmark doesn't get that one!)

Dickens?  I don't remember reindeer in Dickens.   Do you mean the Clement Moore 'Night before Christmas' poem?

Oops! Thank you so much!!!!   :-[
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Virg on January 04, 2012, 09:15:34 AM
Iris wrote:

"I would totally do that. I like the explanation of 'internal consistency' that someone suggested earlier. My attitude is more or less "Okay, film-maker, I have met you half way. I have agreed to suspend my understanding of surface area to volume ratios and basic physics and accept that this dragon is real. That's fine, I've done my bit. Now you want me to ignore SKELETAL STRUCTURE as well?! I think not!! You have betrayed me!""

The problem I had with the statement wasn't actually that it was all fiction (although that's what brought me to a stop at the first statement).  It was my thought of, how would anyone know what sort of maneuvering a dragon is capable of?  There was nothing about skeletal structure in the film, of course, so one has to wonder whether a dragon in that universe has hollow bones like a bird or uses magic powers to supplement cornering or a thousand other details that would make it unreasonable to say that any particular part of the scene is "unrealistic".  In real-life Earth, a dragon of the size portrayed that was a solid as an elephant would never get off the ground on flexible wings of any size, so right away we're not playing by real physics.  That's why I found it so confused a statement.

Virg
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: alkira6 on January 04, 2012, 09:27:01 AM
Conversations that make my head hurt? Any conversation with anyone who has so little understanding of physics that they don't understand why the movie would be over if the earth's core stopped spinning/superman spun the earth backwards/the atmosphere was BURNED AWAY, ect.

Head hurts *whimper*
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Petticoats on January 04, 2012, 09:28:35 AM
My exact response when somebody disses Twilight* by saying "But real vampires don't sparkle!"
Real vampires? Really?  ???  ::)

(*Diss it all you want, but if you use that (or similar) reasons, I will roll my eyes at you.)

Speaking for myself, as an admitted vampire snob and scholar, when I use "real" in this context I use it to mean "according to established literary tradition as set down by Polidori, Stoker, et al." Not "real life."  ;)

I'm a big stickler for internal consistency, though, as well described by Slartibartfast and Iris. Once I've stepped into your fantasy world and accepted its rules, at least make the rules consistent and logical, or I'm jarred out of the story.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 04, 2012, 09:29:26 AM
Can you name Santa's 8 reindeer? (As per Dickens, of course.)

What about Rudolf? Oh, he's fictional!

(We will not get into the Donder/Donner name. Even Hallmark doesn't get that one!)

Dickens?  I don't remember reindeer in Dickens.   Do you mean the Clement Moore 'Night before Christmas' poem?

Oops! Thank you so much!!!!   :-[

I don't know, I kinda like that oops.   ;)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 04, 2012, 09:31:44 AM
Conversations that make my head hurt? Any conversation with anyone who has so little understanding of physics that they don't understand why the movie would be over if the earth's core stopped spinning/superman spun the earth backwards/the atmosphere was BURNED AWAY, ect.

Head hurts *whimper*

Yup.  "The Core" was the first movie that lost me at the first sentence in the trailer.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: alkira6 on January 04, 2012, 09:34:05 AM
Conversations that make my head hurt? Any conversation with anyone who has so little understanding of physics that they don't understand why the movie would be over if the earth's core stopped spinning/superman spun the earth backwards/the atmosphere was BURNED AWAY, ect.

Head hurts *whimper*

Yup.  "The Core" was the first movie that lost me at the first sentence in the trailer.

My husband made me go see that. In the theater. He told me it was punishment for making him go see Supernova.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MrTango on January 04, 2012, 09:46:42 AM
Speaking of Cores:

I'm a big Star Trek fan, but seriously: How many times has "eject the warp core" been the solution to a given problem?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: wendelenn on January 04, 2012, 09:49:44 AM
Can you name Santa's 8 reindeer? (As per Dickens, of course.)

What about Rudolf? Oh, he's fictional!

(We will not get into the Donder/Donner name. Even Hallmark doesn't get that one!)

Dickens?  I don't remember reindeer in Dickens.   Do you mean the Clement Moore 'Night before Christmas' poem?

Oops! Thank you so much!!!!   :-[
which might not have been written by Moore in the first place. . . :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: lady_disdain on January 04, 2012, 10:25:49 AM
The early Pern books are a good example of internal consistency for me. It is established from the start that dragons exist, they can communicate telepathically and fly almost instantaneously between two places based on a clear visualization. Ok, I am fine with that. Later on, the concept of travelling between time is discovered and it is based on the same concepts (a clear visualization), which adds danger to it. Because of this the characters do an extensive astronomical research to be able to go back to the time they need. It all fits the premises.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: alkira6 on January 04, 2012, 10:33:53 AM
Speaking of Cores:

I'm a big Star Trek fan, but seriously: How many times has "eject the warp core" been the solution to a given problem?

Also, how fragile are warp cores? Warp Core breach anyone? Anyone?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: T'Mar of Vulcan on January 04, 2012, 10:36:13 AM
I'm a big Star Trek fan, but seriously: How many times has "eject the warp core" been the solution to a given problem?
Also, how fragile are warp cores? Warp Core breach anyone? Anyone?

I'm not sure. It was never used (to my recollection) in TOS, but in Voyager they were forever wanting to "eject the core". And then in one episode, they did that and aliens stole it!  >:D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 04, 2012, 10:37:25 AM
Speaking of Cores:

I'm a big Star Trek fan, but seriously: How many times has "eject the warp core" been the solution to a given problem?

Also, how fragile are warp cores? Warp Core breach anyone? Anyone?

Well, THOSE ones were.  And red shirts frequently caused death.

For those familiar with the works of Michael Crichton ("Westworld" and "Jurassic Park") have you ever thought that the holodeck in TNG was build by Crichton Entertainment Systems?

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: guihong on January 04, 2012, 10:38:56 AM
Conversations that make my head hurt? Any conversation with anyone who has so little understanding of physics that they don't understand why the movie would be over if the earth's core stopped spinning/superman spun the earth backwards/the atmosphere was BURNED AWAY, ect.

Head hurts *whimper*

Ditto for any movie in which the moon is jarred out of  its orbit and is going to crash into the Earth, and so fills the sky, or the Earth is struck by something that went straight through to the other side, and so its rotation is slowing, etc. etc.

I'm even a geologist and physics teacher, but don't tell any of my classes that I love those films   ;)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: alkira6 on January 04, 2012, 10:44:09 AM
Speaking of Cores:

I'm a big Star Trek fan, but seriously: How many times has "eject the warp core" been the solution to a given problem?

Also, how fragile are warp cores? Warp Core breach anyone? Anyone?

Well, THOSE ones were.  And red shirts frequently caused death.

For those familiar with the works of Michael Crichton ("Westworld" and "Jurassic Park") have you ever thought that the holodeck in TNG was build by Crichton Entertainment Systems?

You made me snicker into my tea.  Maybe TNG should just sit quietly in a corner and not touch ANYTHING.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Layla Miller on January 04, 2012, 10:48:03 AM
I just remembered one from a few years ago.  At an old workplace, my coworkers gossiped constantly.  If I was lucky, they restricted their chatter to tabloids and celebrities.  If I wasn't, they complained loudly about any coworkers that weren't present (or even just out of earshot).

This was right around the time of Anna Nicole Smith's death, with all the drama and fallout surrounding it.  One day, I overheard (in spite of my best efforts) them talking about how some people were claiming that ANS didn't even have any money.  "I heard she lived in the Bahamas!" exclaimed one coworker.  "You think poor people live in the Bahamas?"

Um, yes, coworker.  As a matter of fact, I do think poor people live in the Bahamas.  Most of the natives.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on January 04, 2012, 12:11:14 PM
The difference is that my SIL was putting a community college on a par with Tulane and they just will not be. 

I haven't heard of any community colleges that offer a 4 year pre med degree.  I know you can do basics there, but not all 4 years.  DD has already started getting college credit in her science requirements and will be picking up more science, plus math and English next school year.

Actually most Med Schools won't generally take pre-requisite courses from a Community College...I suppose you  could perhaps do two years at a CC and then all the pre-reqs at a 4 year university but that would be tough.  Med Schools want you to be able to take and succeed in challenging courses.

Generally the Med School will accept a pre-requisite course if it meets a set upon guideline of course content. Some community colleges follow the same course curriculm guidelines when offering a 2 year program or to provide the more 'general' course requirements that are needed for a vast majority of any 4 year degree such as English 101 & 102, Math Courses (above 100 course numbers) Humanity, Science, etc.

A copy of the course number and sylabus can be submitted to determine if it can be applied toward the med degree requirements.

This has evolved into a discussion of impressive length and I think we all get that there are multiple ways to fulfill pre-med requirements. But when I read the post with the original comment (I can't even find it), I got the impression that the person didn't have a clue that you don't just walk into any random school and become a doctor. Considering how many people think I got my DVM from a two-year technical school, I can well believe it.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jedikaiti on January 04, 2012, 12:25:46 PM
Conversations that make my head hurt? Any conversation with anyone who has so little understanding of physics that they don't understand why the movie would be over if the earth's core stopped spinning/superman spun the earth backwards/the atmosphere was BURNED AWAY, ect.

Head hurts *whimper*

Yup.  "The Core" was the first movie that lost me at the first sentence in the trailer.

My husband made me go see that. In the theater. He told me it was punishment for making him go see Supernova.

I haven't seen The Core, but I have a list of reasons why Supernova is the Worst. Movie. Ever. It starts with the fact that the major drama is all based upon some supposed scientist's inability to do basic addition & subtraction.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sirius on January 04, 2012, 12:27:57 PM
I will say, I hate trying to decipher the ship to "ONTARIO CA" comments in the system at work because CA is both the country code for Canada and the state code for California and people don't always think a zip code is necessary.  The country, of course, is "obvious."  ::)
well, Ontario is a province. If they were shipping to our glorious province, they'd need a town or city! Were pretty big, so a package for Suzy in Ontario isn't going to get anywhere (and die a slow lonely death at the post office while postal workers mock it for not having a city.) But Ontario, CA is an actual specific place, no further refinement (except for postal zip thingy) needed. I'd be assuming everything labeled Ontario CA is for cali.

or are there a not-really surprisingly large number of people who think they can get away with sending something to Canada armed only with name and province (not even a postal code)?

Ok, jumping the gun a bit (as I'm only on page 8 ) but a nice O/T sidetrack- there was someone who wrote a letter to Richard Whitley (spl?) may he rest in peace, he was the host of a UK TV show called "Countdown". The writer addressed the envelope to "Mr. Richard Whitley, England" or somesuch.

It got to him! About 16 Richard Whitleys later :)

I once got a letter addressed to "Miss Sirius, TownSheLivesIn, California,Zip."  It was a small town, so I got the letter.  It was in response to a letter of mine printed in Astronomy magazine, and it was from a male in a neighboring town who actually tried to hit on me. 

In one of my books by P.G. Wodehouse, he tells about a letter he once received addressed "rather flatteringly" to "P.G. Wodehouse, England." 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on January 04, 2012, 12:50:43 PM
Piratelvr1121 wrote:

"There's a scene that has Captain Jack and Davy Jones swordfighting on a yardarm of the Flying Dutchman during a maelstrom while the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman are firing at each other.

The guy says "Oh, that's not realistic, that goes against the laws of physics!""

My wife did that once.  We were watching Dragonheart and she confessed that she didn't like it.  When I asked her why, she said (I kid you not), "It's unrealistic."

"Um, what?" sez I.

"In real life a dragon couldn't turn like that."

(insert needle-scratch sound here).

Virg

LOL!  Yeah, I have a hard time expecting realism in that way.  I do agree with others that argue about consistency as I don't like when a series of books or movies have a character doing things one way with a moral code that keeps them from doing things differently, then a few books later the author has the character do something totally OOC for them.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on January 04, 2012, 12:57:38 PM
Conversations that make my head hurt? Any conversation with anyone who has so little understanding of physics that they don't understand why the movie would be over if the earth's core stopped spinning/superman spun the earth backwards/the atmosphere was BURNED AWAY, ect.

Head hurts *whimper*

Yup.  "The Core" was the first movie that lost me at the first sentence in the trailer.

My husband made me go see that. In the theater. He told me it was punishment for making him go see Supernova.

I haven't seen The Core, but I have a list of reasons why Supernova is the Worst. Movie. Ever. It starts with the fact that the major drama is all based upon some supposed scientist's inability to do basic addition & subtraction.

Just bear in mind that we lost the Mars Orbiter because of the inability to convert metric and imperial.   ;)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hobish on January 04, 2012, 12:59:52 PM
I'm reminded of a scene from an old sci-fi cartoon. The good guys had just dragged the hero back from some life-threatening situation, and one of them orders another to bring the "dehydration serum". Must be that super-technological space water.
I can only guess that since alcohol has a diuretic and dehydrating effect, he was asking for a stiff drink (what with the near death experience).  ;) (I think I'm going to be referring to my drinks as "Dehydration Serum" from now on.)  ;D

I love it!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jedikaiti on January 04, 2012, 01:07:01 PM
Conversations that make my head hurt? Any conversation with anyone who has so little understanding of physics that they don't understand why the movie would be over if the earth's core stopped spinning/superman spun the earth backwards/the atmosphere was BURNED AWAY, ect.

Head hurts *whimper*

Yup.  "The Core" was the first movie that lost me at the first sentence in the trailer.

My husband made me go see that. In the theater. He told me it was punishment for making him go see Supernova.

I haven't seen The Core, but I have a list of reasons why Supernova is the Worst. Movie. Ever. It starts with the fact that the major drama is all based upon some supposed scientist's inability to do basic addition & subtraction.

Just bear in mind that we lost the Mars Orbiter because of the inability to convert metric and imperial.   ;)

A jumbo jet once became a glider for much the same reason. (Amazingly, the only injuries were minor!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: White Dragon on January 04, 2012, 01:10:31 PM
Conversations that make my head hurt? Any conversation with anyone who has so little understanding of physics that they don't understand why the movie would be over if the earth's core stopped spinning/superman spun the earth backwards/the atmosphere was BURNED AWAY, ect.

Head hurts *whimper*

Yup.  "The Core" was the first movie that lost me at the first sentence in the trailer.

My husband made me go see that. In the theater. He told me it was punishment for making him go see Supernova.

I haven't seen The Core, but I have a list of reasons why Supernova is the Worst. Movie. Ever. It starts with the fact that the major drama is all based upon some supposed scientist's inability to do basic addition & subtraction.

Just bear in mind that we lost the Mars Orbiter because of the inability to convert metric and imperial.   ;)

A jumbo jet once became a glider for much the same reason. (Amazingly, the only injuries were minor!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

You beat me to it! I was just about to reference the Gimli Glider!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: VorFemme on January 04, 2012, 01:31:09 PM
"Dehydration Serum" nothing - I raise you "dehydrated vodka" from a movie where Russia and the USA had some kind of joint space program (the movie was made decades before the real joint mission - with Jerry Lewis as the astronaut from the USA, you know that it was a comedy and that there were going to be sacrifices to make a joke - in this case, they sacrificed science.............dehydrated vodka was a POWDER - much like a white version of Tang).  Everyone got uproariously drunk and much merriment & mayhem ensued - all of it played for laughs.................

I have seen a few books or movies where the lead character does develop skills (magic, sword skills, healing skills, martial arts, etc.) BECAUSE of something that happened early in their life (Batman spent a lot of time gaining the athletic skills and other knowledge that he needed to be "THE BATMAN", as a for instance because his parents were murdered in front of him as a child).   So even without mutant powers - a younger child may go on to acquire skills (or wealth - if that is the "power" that they need in the context of the plot) so that the next time something happens, they CAN do something about it.  If it is possible to do something about it, in the context of the storyline in that book, film, or tv show.....................



Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: CuriousParty on January 04, 2012, 01:31:57 PM
Conversations that make my head hurt? Any conversation with anyone who has so little understanding of physics that they don't understand why the movie would be over if the earth's core stopped spinning/superman spun the earth backwards/the atmosphere was BURNED AWAY, ect.

Head hurts *whimper*

Yup.  "The Core" was the first movie that lost me at the first sentence in the trailer.

My husband made me go see that. In the theater. He told me it was punishment for making him go see Supernova.

I haven't seen The Core, but I have a list of reasons why Supernova is the Worst. Movie. Ever. It starts with the fact that the major drama is all based upon some supposed scientist's inability to do basic addition & subtraction.

Just bear in mind that we lost the Mars Orbiter because of the inability to convert metric and imperial.   ;)

A jumbo jet once became a glider for much the same reason. (Amazingly, the only injuries were minor!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

You beat me to it! I was just about to reference the Gimli Glider!
I live with a scientist who makes basic math errors all the time.  I calculate all tips, he cannot seem to get the hang of it.  Fortunately, basic math is less relevant to his daily work than, say, differential equations, and for the simple stuff he has a calculator :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Virg on January 04, 2012, 01:47:20 PM
Jedikaiti wrote:

"I haven't seen The Core, but I have a list of reasons why Supernova is the Worst. Movie. Ever."

That's because you haven't seen The Core.  It's really as bad as everyone says it is.  It's like they actually tried to get every bit of science and technology referenced in the whole film bogglingly wrong.  It starts with a team of astronauts crash-landing the space shuttle in Los Angeles and surviving it.  It gets worse from there.

VorFemme wrote:

"...dehydrated vodka was a POWDER..."

Wouldn't dehydrated vodka be Everclear?

Virg
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: VorFemme on January 04, 2012, 02:08:30 PM
Jedikaiti wrote:

"I haven't seen The Core, but I have a list of reasons why Supernova is the Worst. Movie. Ever."

That's because you haven't seen The Core.  It's really as bad as everyone says it is.  It's like they actually tried to get every bit of science and technology referenced in the whole film bogglingly wrong.  It starts with a team of astronauts crash-landing the space shuttle in Los Angeles and surviving it.  It gets worse from there.

VorFemme wrote:

"...dehydrated vodka was a POWDER..."

Wouldn't dehydrated vodka be Everclear?

Virg

Virg - I think that you are old enough to remember Jerry Lewis movies on afternoon tv - would Everclear have been ALLOWED to be in a 1950s movie script?  But a white powder called dehydrate vodka...............might well go over okay with the censors.  Today - white powder is suspected of being a worse threat to society (drugs - and not the headache powders that grandma & greatgrandma might have used in the 1930s, either).
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: gramma dishes on January 04, 2012, 02:12:17 PM
Today - white powder is suspected of being a worse threat to society (drugs - and not the headache powders that grandma & greatgrandma might have used in the 1930s, either).

But who really knows what was in those "headache powders"!   ;)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hobish on January 04, 2012, 02:12:23 PM
Jedikaiti wrote:

"I haven't seen The Core, but I have a list of reasons why Supernova is the Worst. Movie. Ever."

That's because you haven't seen The Core It's really as bad as everyone says it is.  It's like they actually tried to get every bit of science and technology referenced in the whole film bogglingly wrong.  It starts with a team of astronauts crash-landing the space shuttle in Los Angeles and surviving it.  It gets worse from there.

VorFemme wrote:

"...dehydrated vodka was a POWDER..."

Wouldn't dehydrated vodka be Everclear?

Virg

Seriously, The Core is worth watching just for comedic value ... and its fine acting, of course. :) It is one of the boyfriend's guily pleasure movies just because it is sooo-ooo-oooo bad.

...wanders off to ponder how painful snorting dehydrated vodka might be...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sirius on January 04, 2012, 02:52:22 PM
Today - white powder is suspected of being a worse threat to society (drugs - and not the headache powders that grandma & greatgrandma might have used in the 1930s, either).

But who really knows what was in those "headache powders"!   ;)

Those headache powders are still very much with us - Goody's powder being the main one I've encountered in my work.

http://www.goodyspowder.com/
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on January 04, 2012, 03:14:06 PM
Today - white powder is suspected of being a worse threat to society (drugs - and not the headache powders that grandma & greatgrandma might have used in the 1930s, either).

But who really knows what was in those "headache powders"!   ;)

Those headache powders are still very much with us - Goody's powder being the main one I've encountered in my work.

http://www.goodyspowder.com/

I just went to the website. It appears all the products have acetaminophin, and they are recommending it for a hangover. Overworked liver, acetamenophin - I don't think so!

It appears acetamenophin wasn't marketed in the US until the early 50's, so I guess it isn't your mother's Goody's.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: 2littlemonkeys on January 04, 2012, 03:20:32 PM
Today - white powder is suspected of being a worse threat to society (drugs - and not the headache powders that grandma & greatgrandma might have used in the 1930s, either).

But who really knows what was in those "headache powders"!   ;)

Those headache powders are still very much with us - Goody's powder being the main one I've encountered in my work.

http://www.goodyspowder.com/

I just went to the website. It appears all the products have acetaminophin, and they are recommending it for a hangover. Overworked liver, acetamenophin - I don't think so!

It appears acetamenophin wasn't marketed in the US until the early 50's, so I guess it isn't your mother's Goody's.



I've always been under the impression that the headache powders from way back when were opiates but now I think I'm thinking of laudanum.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on January 04, 2012, 03:23:19 PM
As bad as The Core is, it absolutely cannot compare to Deep Core.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 04, 2012, 03:23:42 PM
<snip>

Re. maths making your head hurt: I have a friend who simply doesn't get negative numbers. They make no sense to her. She's got no problems with maths otherwise - just negative numbers.

What does she think happens when the temperature drops below zero?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BabyMama on January 04, 2012, 03:32:22 PM
A friend and I went to see the latest Star Trek movie in the theaters, and there was a trailer for The Core before the movie. After hearing the lines, "We've got to jump start the core" we just couldn't concentrate on the movie any longer. We couldn't stop laughing at the 2-second tagline.  :o
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: CG on January 04, 2012, 04:07:25 PM
<snip>

Re. maths making your head hurt: I have a friend who simply doesn't get negative numbers. They make no sense to her. She's got no problems with maths otherwise - just negative numbers.

What does she think happens when the temperature drops below zero?

She might live somewhere that the temperature doesn't. If it drops below zero here, people would assume the Rapture happened, and they weren't taken.  Doomed.  DOOMED, I tell you.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BabyMama on January 04, 2012, 04:20:59 PM
I did a trade over the Internet. I sent my item, but the other person flaked. After being publicly called out, she said she would send it, she forgot, and it would have been waaay easier if I had just called her (to let her know she never shipped me something from her house??? Whatever...) I posted a reply stating why I didn't call her--she's in CA and I'm in the US, and to arrange an international call would cost me $10 minimum--plus, she wasn't answering my e-mails, I doubt she would have answered an unfamiliar and international call.

Just had someone try to tell me that calling US to Canada isn't international calling...I asked what they thought an international call involved--"Oh, you know, like, calls to Mexico, and to Asian countries. That's why you always see phone cards at Mexican and Asian grocery stores." Apparently I should open a Canadian grocery/convenience store--there seems to be a hole in the market  ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 04, 2012, 04:37:23 PM
<snip>

Re. maths making your head hurt: I have a friend who simply doesn't get negative numbers. They make no sense to her. She's got no problems with maths otherwise - just negative numbers.

What does she think happens when the temperature drops below zero?

She might live somewhere that the temperature doesn't. If it drops below zero here, people would assume the Rapture happened, and they weren't taken.  Doomed.  DOOMED, I tell you.

I see  ;D. I live in a celsius world, so even household freezers are below zero. None of us seem to be doomed so far :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on January 04, 2012, 06:51:29 PM
I did a trade over the Internet. I sent my item, but the other person flaked. After being publicly called out, she said she would send it, she forgot, and it would have been waaay easier if I had just called her (to let her know she never shipped me something from her house??? Whatever...) I posted a reply stating why I didn't call her--she's in CA and I'm in the US, and to arrange an international call would cost me $10 minimum--plus, she wasn't answering my e-mails, I doubt she would have answered an unfamiliar and international call.

Just had someone try to tell me that calling US to Canada isn't international calling...I asked what they thought an international call involved--"Oh, you know, like, calls to Mexico, and to Asian countries. That's why you always see phone cards at Mexican and Asian grocery stores." Apparently I should open a Canadian grocery/convenience store--there seems to be a hole in the market  ::)

You don't have to use a country code to call between Canada and the US - and on my plan it doesn't cost extra.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Reika on January 04, 2012, 07:31:04 PM
Jedikaiti wrote:

"I haven't seen The Core, but I have a list of reasons why Supernova is the Worst. Movie. Ever."

That's because you haven't seen The Core.  It's really as bad as everyone says it is.  It's like they actually tried to get every bit of science and technology referenced in the whole film bogglingly wrong.  It starts with a team of astronauts crash-landing the space shuttle in Los Angeles and surviving it.  It gets worse from there.


Mom talked me into seeing that. I twitched and sputtered through the whole movie.  Granted I'm not the greatest at physics or geology, but I have a good grounding in science. My inner geek was Not Happy.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: zyrs on January 04, 2012, 07:47:02 PM
"Dehydration Serum" nothing - I raise you "dehydrated vodka" from a movie where Russia and the USA had some kind of joint space program (the movie was made decades before the real joint mission - with Jerry Lewis as the astronaut from the USA, you know that it was a comedy and that there were going to be sacrifices to make a joke - in this case, they sacrificed science.............dehydrated vodka was a POWDER - much like a white version of Tang).  Everyone got uproariously drunk and much merriment & mayhem ensued - all of it played for laughs.................

I have seen a few books or movies where the lead character does develop skills (magic, sword skills, healing skills, martial arts, etc.) BECAUSE of something that happened early in their life (Batman spent a lot of time gaining the athletic skills and other knowledge that he needed to be "THE BATMAN", as a for instance because his parents were murdered in front of him as a child).   So even without mutant powers - a younger child may go on to acquire skills (or wealth - if that is the "power" that they need in the context of the plot) so that the next time something happens, they CAN do something about it.  If it is possible to do something about it, in the context of the storyline in that book, film, or tv show.....................

Way ... Way out  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061173/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061173/)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mlkind1789 on January 04, 2012, 11:08:33 PM
I was also born at a military hospital although in Texas.  I can't even tell you how many people think El Paso isn't in the US, so don't feel too bad. 

My youngest sister has MG and as a result cannot have magnesium at all.  (It intensifies the symptoms which can be deadly particularly for someone already sick enough to be in ICU.)  Also about 20 years ago my other sis was in the hospital and was accidentally given an overdose, but since she wasn't hooked up to anything no one would have known it if the family hadn't been there until it may have been too late.  Since then we have a strict rule of having someone with you in the hospital.

A few years back my youngest sis was in ICU after her latest crisis and was in very bad shape.  The nurse brought in a bag of magnesium in her drip.  We always check meds before they are given and when she told my sis what it was she told the nurse she couldn't have it and why.  The nurse insisted and my mom had to actually step up to step in front of her to stop her!  So not long after the hospitalist came in to find out why my sister was refusing treatment and belligerent.  After my sister explained why, which really she shouldn't have to explain what meds she can and cannot take to the dr, he was extremely apologetic and they switched her to a different nurse.

When DH had his sinus surgery, he told a nurse he was allergic to morphine. I don't remember whether she was about to give him some, or just asking if he had any drug allergies. In any case, she responded with a skeptical look and said, "Are you sure? What happens when you have it?"

"It makes me itch all over. I'm telling you, I'm allergic to it."

She didn't push it after that, but I was annoyed. He said he's allergic to morphine, end of discussion.

My brother is allergic to morphine as well, it kills him. We found out because it did kill him but he was in Hospital so they were able to bring him back, thank all the Gods.

All us kids now have notes in our medical files just in case if we ever get morphine that we may have an extreme reaction.

We found out oldest dd is allergic to morphine when she had some surgery at the age of 5.  She came out of recovery and into her room and kept complaining about a headache and it just kept getting worse.  I ended up telling the nurse to get me the surgeon because this was not normal.  When the surgeon came in he looked at her, asked me what was going on and then said "Sounds like an allergic reaction, let's get her something else."  They put her on Tylenol-3, she slept for 4 hours and woke up an entirely different kid.

I didn't even think about a family trait when my middle dd had to go the ER for a kidney stone about a year and a half ago until after they gave it to her.  A little bit after she got it, she started itching all over, the nurse took a look and DD was red and splotchy starting at the line where they had injected the morphine.

(BTW, just for handy information, in case you ever need it, and I hope none of you ever do, but apparently in adolescents kidney stones can look just the same as an infected appendix.  DD was 11 when she had her kidney stone and until they did the MRI, even the doctor on call thought it was her appendix.  We were already starting to plan on her going into surgery.  The doc actually said to me when ordering the MRI, "This is really just a formality, but I want to double check before we send her to the OR".  Thank goodness he did.)

I've told DD3 that if she ever has need to go to the ER for anything the first thing I'm telling the staff after the description of the issue is "Both her sisters are allergic to morphine, please do not give it to her".
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: bduckie on January 05, 2012, 12:26:51 AM
I've had a lot in my line of work, but this one really stands out.

I work in a pet store.

I had a lady want to buy a fish.
No problem, I said. I grabbed a fish bag. Then the following happened.

Crazy Lady: " Oh, I don't need a bag, can you put it in a box"
me: "OK" still has bag in hand, thinking she was saying that she'd carry the fish bag in a box. We get some customers that are buying for their kids, and want the purchase in a box for secrecy.
CL: "NO, I want it in a box"
Me: "I can put the bag in a box for you"
CL: "No. I. don't. want. a bag. Put. it. in. a. box."
Me: "You do realise that boxes aren't water-proof?"
Cue laughing from her companions, and them telling her they didn't think the fish was a good idea. She left, still arguing the point with her friends.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Softly Spoken on January 05, 2012, 01:11:58 AM
I am having so much fun reading this thread. I don't find myself dealing with head-hurting people that often but I have a few 'd'oh' moments courtesy of my brother (and a doozy courtesy of my other brother!):

1) My BroD is a self taught (this is important  :)) computer wizard. He built his computer and mine. We are talking about moving multiple files (we both have huge mp3 libraries) and I mention the shortcut of holding the [shift] key down while clicking on first and last file names to select a long chunk of files all at once:
BroD: *blank look* Wha?
Me: *slowly dawning horror* Wait. You don't mean... you've been selecting every. single. file individually ALL THIS TIME!?! :o
BroD: .....
Me: Holy ___. DUDE.

The only problem with being self taught? The stuff nobody tells you!  ;D

2) I am talking to BroD about something, I think we're debating some pop culture trivia fact. He is proven to be right after issue is looked up in a book or online or whatever. Smug BroD celebrates thusly:
BroD: Yes! Swoosh!
Me: What??
BroD: You know, like 'nothing but net.'
Me: *thinks very carefully* You mean SWISH?
BroD: ... Oh.
Me: *not so unhappy about losing debate after all* ;) (Maybe if we were debating about Nike...)

3) This is the real head splitter, inflicted on my BroD by his younger BroG. BG: BroG has some very..."interesting" perceptions about life. -end BG ::)

Television: *Shows scene in the movie "Gladiator" in which Russel Crowe's character cuts an opponet's head off with a sword.*
BroG: (scornfully) That's not real!
BroD: .... *somehow fights off an aneurysm*

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MariaE on January 05, 2012, 01:21:05 AM
<snip>

Re. maths making your head hurt: I have a friend who simply doesn't get negative numbers. They make no sense to her. She's got no problems with maths otherwise - just negative numbers.

What does she think happens when the temperature drops below zero?

She just refrains from doing maths that involves temperatures below zero  ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BabyMama on January 05, 2012, 08:01:58 AM
I did a trade over the Internet. I sent my item, but the other person flaked. After being publicly called out, she said she would send it, she forgot, and it would have been waaay easier if I had just called her (to let her know she never shipped me something from her house??? Whatever...) I posted a reply stating why I didn't call her--she's in CA and I'm in the US, and to arrange an international call would cost me $10 minimum--plus, she wasn't answering my e-mails, I doubt she would have answered an unfamiliar and international call.

Just had someone try to tell me that calling US to Canada isn't international calling...I asked what they thought an international call involved--"Oh, you know, like, calls to Mexico, and to Asian countries. That's why you always see phone cards at Mexican and Asian grocery stores." Apparently I should open a Canadian grocery/convenience store--there seems to be a hole in the market  ::)

You don't have to use a country code to call between Canada and the US - and on my plan it doesn't cost extra.

It does on mine--I have to enable international calling (for a fee) and pay a per-the-minute price, or I can not enable international calling and pay a much higher per-the-minute price.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: dawbs on January 05, 2012, 08:17:48 AM
<snip>

Re. maths making your head hurt: I have a friend who simply doesn't get negative numbers. They make no sense to her. She's got no problems with maths otherwise - just negative numbers.

What does she think happens when the temperature drops below zero?

She just refrains from doing maths that involves temperatures below zero  ;D
Convert to Kelvins, never an issue  ;)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MariaE on January 05, 2012, 08:30:05 AM
<snip>

Re. maths making your head hurt: I have a friend who simply doesn't get negative numbers. They make no sense to her. She's got no problems with maths otherwise - just negative numbers.

What does she think happens when the temperature drops below zero?

She just refrains from doing maths that involves temperatures below zero  ;D
Convert to Kelvins, never an issue  ;)
HA! Love it! :D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Hijinks on January 05, 2012, 11:17:49 AM
I am having so much fun reading this thread. I don't find myself dealing with head-hurting people that often but I have a few 'd'oh' moments courtesy of my brother (and a doozy courtesy of my other brother!):

1) My BroD is a self taught (this is important  :)) computer wizard. He built his computer and mine. We are talking about moving multiple files (we both have huge mp3 libraries) and I mention the shortcut of holding the [shift] key down while clicking on first and last file names to select a long chunk of files all at once:
BroD: *blank look* Wha?
Me: *slowly dawning horror* Wait. You don't mean... you've been selecting every. single. file individually ALL THIS TIME!?! :o
BroD: .....
Me: Holy ___. DUDE.

The only problem with being self taught? The stuff nobody tells you!  ;D

2) I am talking to BroD about something, I think we're debating some pop culture trivia fact. He is proven to be right after issue is looked up in a book or online or whatever. Smug BroD celebrates thusly:
BroD: Yes! Swoosh!
Me: What??
BroD: You know, like 'nothing but net.'
Me: *thinks very carefully* You mean SWISH?
BroD: ... Oh.
Me: *not so unhappy about losing debate after all* ;) (Maybe if we were debating about Nike...)

3) This is the real head splitter, inflicted on my BroD by his younger BroG. BG: BroG has some very..."interesting" perceptions about life. -end BG ::)

Television: *Shows scene in the movie "Gladiator" in which Russel Crowe's character cuts an opponet's head off with a sword.*
BroG: (scornfully) That's not real!
BroD: .... *somehow fights off an aneurysm*

It's making my brain hurt trying to figure out what BroD and BroG are :(
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on January 05, 2012, 11:24:20 AM
I am having so much fun reading this thread. I don't find myself dealing with head-hurting people that often but I have a few 'd'oh' moments courtesy of my brother (and a doozy courtesy of my other brother!):

1) My BroD is a self taught (this is important  :)) computer wizard. He built his computer and mine. We are talking about moving multiple files (we both have huge mp3 libraries) and I mention the shortcut of holding the [shift] key down while clicking on first and last file names to select a long chunk of files all at once:
BroD: *blank look* Wha?
Me: *slowly dawning horror* Wait. You don't mean... you've been selecting every. single. file individually ALL THIS TIME!?! :o
BroD: .....
Me: Holy ___. DUDE.

The only problem with being self taught? The stuff nobody tells you!  ;D

2) I am talking to BroD about something, I think we're debating some pop culture trivia fact. He is proven to be right after issue is looked up in a book or online or whatever. Smug BroD celebrates thusly:
BroD: Yes! Swoosh!
Me: What??
BroD: You know, like 'nothing but net.'
Me: *thinks very carefully* You mean SWISH?
BroD: ... Oh.
Me: *not so unhappy about losing debate after all* ;) (Maybe if we were debating about Nike...)

3) This is the real head splitter, inflicted on my BroD by his younger BroG. BG: BroG has some very..."interesting" perceptions about life. -end BG ::)

Television: *Shows scene in the movie "Gladiator" in which Russel Crowe's character cuts an opponet's head off with a sword.*
BroG: (scornfully) That's not real!
BroD: .... *somehow fights off an aneurysm*

It's making my brain hurt trying to figure out what BroD and BroG are :(
I'm guessing that rather than use ODB & YDB, or Bro#1 & Bro#2, the OP was using their initials.  So BroD is named Dagobert or Darwin or someother "D" name, and BroG is Goliath or Galahad or some other "G" name.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on January 05, 2012, 11:51:39 AM
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It's making my brain hurt trying to figure out what BroD and BroG are

LOL!  That was my thought as well!

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on January 05, 2012, 01:01:48 PM
I am having so much fun reading this thread. I don't find myself dealing with head-hurting people that often but I have a few 'd'oh' moments courtesy of my brother (and a doozy courtesy of my other brother!):

1) My BroD is a self taught (this is important  :)) computer wizard. He built his computer and mine. We are talking about moving multiple files (we both have huge mp3 libraries) and I mention the shortcut of holding the [shift] key down while clicking on first and last file names to select a long chunk of files all at once:
BroD: *blank look* Wha?
Me: *slowly dawning horror* Wait. You don't mean... you've been selecting every. single. file individually ALL THIS TIME!?! :o
BroD: .....
Me: Holy ___. DUDE.

The only problem with being self taught? The stuff nobody tells you!  ;D

2) I am talking to BroD about something, I think we're debating some pop culture trivia fact. He is proven to be right after issue is looked up in a book or online or whatever. Smug BroD celebrates thusly:
BroD: Yes! Swoosh!
Me: What??
BroD: You know, like 'nothing but net.'
Me: *thinks very carefully* You mean SWISH?
BroD: ... Oh.
Me: *not so unhappy about losing debate after all* ;) (Maybe if we were debating about Nike...)

3) This is the real head splitter, inflicted on my BroD by his younger BroG. BG: BroG has some very..."interesting" perceptions about life. -end BG ::)

Television: *Shows scene in the movie "Gladiator" in which Russel Crowe's character cuts an opponet's head off with a sword.*
BroG: (scornfully) That's not real!
BroD: .... *somehow fights off an aneurysm*

It's making my brain hurt trying to figure out what BroD and BroG are :(
I'm guessing that rather than use ODB & YDB, or Bro#1 & Bro#2, the OP was using their initials.  So BroD is named Dagobert or Darwin or someother "D" name, and BroG is Goliath or Galahad or some other "G" name.

Also my guess.  It's just shorthand for "My bro, D..."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Softly Spoken on January 05, 2012, 09:49:37 PM
*assumes position of supplication*

sorry guys I didn't know the standard abbrv. for siblings (based on your posts there seem to be several, actually, what is the standard?) used on this forum. Read newbie intro post on forum abbrv but there were so many it was alphabet soup in front of my eyes after a while.  :(

What makes sense to me makes no sense to anyone else! *SIGH*

*hands out asperin* ----> *is arrested for virtual drug dealing*  :P

PS: @Traska - I wish my brothers names were Dagobert and Galahad - that would be SO cool!  ;D I'm going to tell my Bro his name is Dagobert now...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: artk2002 on January 05, 2012, 09:51:31 PM
SoftlySpoken: No need to apologize, really. There is no "standard" for siblings. BroD and BroG made perfect sense to me.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on January 05, 2012, 11:18:04 PM
SS, it's ok! It just confused a few of us at first, but it makes sense now. :)

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Softly Spoken on January 06, 2012, 02:01:59 AM
SS, it's ok! It just confused a few of us at first, but it makes sense now. :)

Ahahahahah!...Oooooh noooooo! "DG", I just realized what my username's initials make me!  :-[

I thought I was being so creative, now it comes back to bite my behind...

*sob* Say it isn't so... ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: atirial on January 06, 2012, 02:23:40 AM
Ahahahahah!...Oooooh noooooo! "DG", I just realized what my username's initials make me!  :-[
I thought I was being so creative, now it comes back to bite my behind...
*sob* Say it isn't so... ::)
If it helps, think of it as "Steam Ship" e.g. SS Great Britain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ss_great_britain). And yes, I have had discussions that made my head hurt based on that acronym.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: marcel on January 06, 2012, 02:49:43 AM
*assumes position of supplication*

sorry guys I didn't know the standard abbrv. for siblings (based on your posts there seem to be several, actually, what is the standard?) used on this forum. Read newbie intro post on forum abbrv but there were so many it was alphabet soup in front of my eyes after a while.  :(

What makes sense to me makes no sense to anyone else! *SIGH*

*hands out asperin* ----> *is arrested for virtual drug dealing*  :P

PS: @Traska - I wish my brothers names were Dagobert and Galahad - that would be SO cool!  ;D I'm going to tell my Bro his name is Dagobert now...
Please continue the way you did.

What you did in your post is 10 times better then either just initials for people, or an abbreviation with a number. I have seldom been able to understand a multiple sibling post on Ehell as well as I understood yours.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jenny_islander on January 06, 2012, 03:04:03 AM
My husband had this exchange just the other day:

AMBULANCE COMPANY IN WA: We can't code this as an emergency call.  [Meaning: The insurance company is going to make you pay for almost all of it.]
DH: You picked up a heavily sedated child who was medevaced to Washington because the hospital here said that he might die at any minute and therefore he had to be within reach of the trauma team at Harborview.  He was kept sedated while in your vehicle because if he woke up and thrashed around he might die right in your vehicle.  How is this not an emergency call?
AMBULANCE COMPANY REP: Because we weren't summoned to the airport via the 911 service.  So it wasn't an emergency call.
DH: Did your driver notice the LifeFlight logo on the tail of that plane?  Or the caduceus?  Or the large amounts of lifesaving equipment attached to the child?
AMBULANCE COMPANY REP: That doesn't make it an emergency call.
DH: Look, why in the blankety blank would anybody be riding in a medical evacuation services plane, sedated and immobilized on pain of sudden death, if they had not been having an emergency in the first place?!  What's the other category of ambulance ride, nonessential?  How the frickety frack else could he  have gotten to the hospital, in the back of a pickup truck?  On a bus?
AMBULANCE COMPANY REP: Well . . . uh . . . okay, we recoded it, call your insurance company and tell them we recoded it.
INSURANCE COMPANY REP: Oh, no, they have to call us.  We can't call them and check to see whether they changed the coding.
AMBULANCE COMPANY REP: Oh, no, they have to call us. We can't call them and tell them we changed the coding.  Or you can tell them.

Yes, I know that in the good old U S of A if you can't pay cash for medical services you are a lesser human being, but come ON!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Coralreef on January 06, 2012, 08:24:51 AM
My mother has always been good with explanations that lack one or two critical components.

Bit of background:
Brother moved to another house on the same street his first house was.  I'm visiting his town along with all the rest of the family to celebrate brother's 50th birthday.  Mom is already at his house. 

Phone call to brother's house, mom answers:

Me : Hi, we just arrived, what is brother's address?
Mom : It's on the same street as his other house.
Me : I know, I need the house number.
Mom : You just take the same street!
Me : I need the house number.
Mom: It's on the same street.
Me : I know it's on the same street, but there are a hundred houses there, which one is it?
Mom : It's on the same street, behind the shopping center.
Me : Let me talk to Bro or SIL.
Mom : But it's on the same street!
Lather, rinse, repeat...

Somewhere in this madness, SIL grabs the phone and gives me the door number.  I just know she's about to wet her pants laughing, my ex was crying with laughter over the steering wheel.  When we get there, Mom's fist comment : I TOLD you it was on the same street!  NEVER, EVER, EVER ask directions from Mother.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Shoo on January 06, 2012, 08:50:37 AM

Yes, I know that in the good old U S of A if you can't pay cash for medical services you are a lesser human being, but come ON!

Was this necessary?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jenny_islander on January 06, 2012, 10:36:29 AM

Yes, I know that in the good old U S of A if you can't pay cash for medical services you are a lesser human being, but come ON!

Was this necessary?

By the end of that conversation, DH and I (who was listening in) certainly felt it was.  The tone was, "You took a joyride in an ambulance, you nasty inconvenient insurance-reliant peons, and you must PAYYYYYYY FOR WASTING OUR TIME."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MayHug on January 06, 2012, 10:43:25 AM

Yes, I know that in the good old U S of A if you can't pay cash for medical services you are a lesser human being, but come ON!

Was this necessary?

By the end of that conversation, DH and I (who was listening in) certainly felt it was.  The tone was, "You took a joyride in an ambulance, you nasty inconvenient insurance-reliant peons, and you must PAYYYYYYY FOR WASTING OUR TIME."

I don't know anyone who can pay cash for their medical bills? And I thought we were working towards everyone having to carry insurance here in the USA?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Shoo on January 06, 2012, 10:46:06 AM

Yes, I know that in the good old U S of A if you can't pay cash for medical services you are a lesser human being, but come ON!

Was this necessary?

By the end of that conversation, DH and I (who was listening in) certainly felt it was.  The tone was, "You took a joyride in an ambulance, you nasty inconvenient insurance-reliant peons, and you must PAYYYYYYY FOR WASTING OUR TIME."

It was the slam against the USA that I take offense to.  Way too close to a political sideswipe, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Moray on January 06, 2012, 10:58:37 AM

Yes, I know that in the good old U S of A if you can't pay cash for medical services you are a lesser human being, but come ON!

Was this necessary?

By the end of that conversation, DH and I (who was listening in) certainly felt it was.  The tone was, "You took a joyride in an ambulance, you nasty inconvenient insurance-reliant peons, and you must PAYYYYYYY FOR WASTING OUR TIME."

It was the slam against the USA that I take offense to.  Way too close to a political sideswipe, in my opinion.

Funny, I took it more as an indictment of the broken communication system ("You tell them" "No, you tell them." "They have to tell us." "We can't do it, you have to.") between insurance companies and healthcare/transportation providers than a slam on the US. Fact is, the only time you don't have these kind of exchanges is when you are paying cash, which is out of reach for the majority of the population.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Cami on January 06, 2012, 11:08:08 AM

Yes, I know that in the good old U S of A if you can't pay cash for medical services you are a lesser human being, but come ON!

Was this necessary?

By the end of that conversation, DH and I (who was listening in) certainly felt it was.  The tone was, "You took a joyride in an ambulance, you nasty inconvenient insurance-reliant peons, and you must PAYYYYYYY FOR WASTING OUR TIME."

I don't know anyone who can pay cash for their medical bills?
  My sister was the victim of a hit and run car accident and had to see a neurologist due to a resulting brain injury. Since she had  changed jobs 2 days before and her new employer (a doctor, mind you) doesn't provide insurance until you've worked there for 6 months, she didn't have insurance, but was willing to pay cash. Of the 6 neurologists in her area, NONE of them would take a cash payment. 

Luckily, she remembered that her car insurance included up to $10K of medical coverage, so she was able to use that. But until she had proof in hand of insurance coverage, she couldn't even make an appointment.  Cash was declined.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hobish on January 06, 2012, 11:19:05 AM
SoftlySpoken: No need to apologize, really. There is no "standard" for siblings. BroD and BroG made perfect sense to me.

Me, too, i really like that way of abbreviating :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: shhh its me on January 06, 2012, 11:19:41 AM

Yes, I know that in the good old U S of A if you can't pay cash for medical services you are a lesser human being, but come ON!

Was this necessary?

By the end of that conversation, DH and I (who was listening in) certainly felt it was.  The tone was, "You took a joyride in an ambulance,, and you must PAYYYYYYY FOR WASTING OUR TIME."

I don't know anyone who can pay cash for their medical bills? And I thought we were working towards everyone having to carry insurance here in the USA?

I really took the exchange to be an example of bureaucracy at work and absoulty nothing to do with some perceived economic discrimination. In my experience medical billing companies  and medical service providers like people with insurance.  Some insurance are bad from providers perspective's but I never hear anything close to the sentiment " you nasty inconvenient insurance-reliant peons" or"I know that in the good old U S of A if you can't pay cash for medical services you are a lesser human being, but come ON!". I'm very curious as to were this preception comes from and if your from the US?  I also firmly believe that if you told them " we have not a penny to our name and our insurance will not pay a dime towards this bill"  the ambulance would have preformed the same service.   An emergency in actuality and emergency as defined by an issuance company may not be the same thing. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Betelnut on January 06, 2012, 11:24:58 AM
Let's get off insurance, etc.  It will lock the thread.  PM if necessary.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: cass2591 on January 06, 2012, 11:46:26 AM
^ is correct. Move on, please.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jedikaiti on January 06, 2012, 12:40:19 PM
*assumes position of supplication*

sorry guys I didn't know the standard abbrv. for siblings (based on your posts there seem to be several, actually, what is the standard?) used on this forum. Read newbie intro post on forum abbrv but there were so many it was alphabet soup in front of my eyes after a while.  :(

What makes sense to me makes no sense to anyone else! *SIGH*

*hands out asperin* ----> *is arrested for virtual drug dealing*  :P

PS: @Traska - I wish my brothers names were Dagobert and Galahad - that would be SO cool!  ;D I'm going to tell my Bro his name is Dagobert now...
Please continue the way you did.

What you did in your post is 10 times better then either just initials for people, or an abbreviation with a number. I have seldom been able to understand a multiple sibling post on Ehell as well as I understood yours.

POD!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sirius on January 06, 2012, 12:57:21 PM

We found out oldest dd is allergic to morphine when she had some surgery at the age of 5.  She came out of recovery and into her room and kept complaining about a headache and it just kept getting worse.  I ended up telling the nurse to get me the surgeon because this was not normal.  When the surgeon came in he looked at her, asked me what was going on and then said "Sounds like an allergic reaction, let's get her something else."  They put her on Tylenol-3, she slept for 4 hours and woke up an entirely different kid.

I didn't even think about a family trait when my middle dd had to go the ER for a kidney stone about a year and a half ago until after they gave it to her.  A little bit after she got it, she started itching all over, the nurse took a look and DD was red and splotchy starting at the line where they had injected the morphine.

(BTW, just for handy information, in case you ever need it, and I hope none of you ever do, but apparently in adolescents kidney stones can look just the same as an infected appendix.  DD was 11 when she had her kidney stone and until they did the MRI, even the doctor on call thought it was her appendix.  We were already starting to plan on her going into surgery.  The doc actually said to me when ordering the MRI, "This is really just a formality, but I want to double check before we send her to the OR".  Thank goodness he did.)

I've told DD3 that if she ever has need to go to the ER for anything the first thing I'm telling the staff after the description of the issue is "Both her sisters are allergic to morphine, please do not give it to her".

Mr. Sirius' mother is allergic to penicillin and sulfa.  Although we knew that he is allergic to penicillin, we didn't find out that he was allergic to sulfa drugs until he was given one when he was hospitalized.  Fortunately, the nurse was still in the room when he had a nasty reaction (he said he felt as though every nerve in his body was on fire and he believes he went into shock) and she summoned help.  Now it's in his chart that he's allergic to sulfa as well.  When he had surgery in 2008 the doctor prescribed an antibiotic for him to take at home, and when I went to pick it up I asked the pharmacist if it was all right to give that particular antibiotic to someone with a known allergy to penicillin and sulfa.  He had told the doctor, but I just wanted to double-check.  The pharmacist asked me if Mr. Sirius had told his doctor about his allergies, and I knew he had because I heard him do so.  Then the pharmacist assured me that what he'd been prescribed was okay for him to take, and added the information about Mr. Sirius' allergies to their computer data base. 

Incidentally, it's common practice to ask what type of reactions a patient gets from a real or perceived allergy.  When I told my dentist I had an allergy to watermelon, he asked me what type of reactions I get from it.  I explained that my throat swells and my mouth itches, so he noted in my chart that I have a watermelon allergy and to not give me the watermelon-flavored dental fixative.  Mr. Sirius says he has been asked similar questions about his allergies to penicillin and sulfa. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: EngineerChick on January 06, 2012, 01:04:48 PM
EngineerDad = my father, also an engineer, who is a mentor for Science Olympiad in his spare time (building projects mostly)
Cousin = 8 years old, only see him 1 or 2 times a year

Cousin was getting on my last nerve, so I suggested he go outside and talk to Uncle EngineerDad (and hopefully work off some energy running around outside).

Cousin--"No, Uncle EngineerDad is boring."
Me--"The same Uncle EngineerDad who builds rockets and airplanes and launches them in the backyard?  That Uncle EngineerDad is boring?"
Cousin--"Yes, Uncle EngineerDad is boooring."
Me--"Why?"
Cousin--"Because he mutes the TV during commercials."
Me--"Oh look, I need to go and do the dishes.  Talk to you later."

Can anyone explain this to me?  I don't understand it.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: siamesecat2965 on January 06, 2012, 01:06:24 PM
My mom had a similar issue with an ambulance and insurance paying the bill.  In her case, it was not a life-threatening emergency, but in fact, the ONLY way she was able to get to her dr. appt.  She had fallen, and shattered her leg, just above the knee, and had surgery to put in a plate and screws, from above to below her knee.  She never had a cast, but did have a huge brace, and was required to keep her leg straight at all times, no bending at all, until she had her first follow up with the ortho surgeon. She was home, but our house did not have any way to get her in and out, no ramps, only stairs, nor could she get into a wheelchair and sit.  She essentially had to stay flat and had an ambulance service take her by stretcher, as she was told to do by the dr.

She went, and then the insurance company refused to pay the bill, even after a letter from the dr. and numerous phone calls stating that this was the ONLY way she had been able to get to the dr.  She finally told them “well, what should I have done, sprouted wings and flown to his office?”  My mom does not give up easily, and after much back and forth, eventually the claim was paid
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hermanne on January 06, 2012, 01:11:07 PM
EngineerDad = my father, also an engineer, who is a mentor for Science Olympiad in his spare time (building projects mostly)
Cousin = 8 years old, only see him 1 or 2 times a year

Cousin was getting on my last nerve, so I suggested he go outside and talk to Uncle EngineerDad (and hopefully work off some energy running around outside).

Cousin--"No, Uncle EngineerDad is boring."
Me--"The same Uncle EngineerDad who builds rockets and airplanes and launches them in the backyard?  That Uncle EngineerDad is boring?"
Cousin--"Yes, Uncle EngineerDad is boooring."
Me--"Why?"
Cousin--"Because he mutes the TV during commercials."
Me--"Oh look, I need to go and do the dishes.  Talk to you later."

Can anyone explain this to me?  I don't understand it.

I can't explain it, but it made me laugh. Gotta love kid logic!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Midge on January 06, 2012, 01:17:47 PM

BroG: (scornfully) That's not real!

 ;D Yes it was! And it required 17 takes!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: heathert on January 06, 2012, 01:47:46 PM
My mother has always been good with explanations that lack one or two critical components.

Bit of background:
Brother moved to another house on the same street his first house was.  I'm visiting his town along with all the rest of the family to celebrate brother's 50th birthday.  Mom is already at his house. 

Phone call to brother's house, mom answers:

Me : Hi, we just arrived, what is brother's address?
Mom : It's on the same street as his other house.
Me : I know, I need the house number.
Mom : You just take the same street!
Me : I need the house number.
Mom: It's on the same street.
Me : I know it's on the same street, but there are a hundred houses there, which one is it?
Mom : It's on the same street, behind the shopping center.
Me : Let me talk to Bro or SIL.
Mom : But it's on the same street!
Lather, rinse, repeat...

Somewhere in this madness, SIL grabs the phone and gives me the door number.  I just know she's about to wet her pants laughing, my ex was crying with laughter over the steering wheel.  When we get there, Mom's fist comment : I TOLD you it was on the same street!  NEVER, EVER, EVER ask directions from Mother.

Why in heck won't she just tell you?  :o
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 06, 2012, 01:51:49 PM
EngineerDad = my father, also an engineer, who is a mentor for Science Olympiad in his spare time (building projects mostly)
Cousin = 8 years old, only see him 1 or 2 times a year

Cousin was getting on my last nerve, so I suggested he go outside and talk to Uncle EngineerDad (and hopefully work off some energy running around outside).

Cousin--"No, Uncle EngineerDad is boring."
Me--"The same Uncle EngineerDad who builds rockets and airplanes and launches them in the backyard?  That Uncle EngineerDad is boring?"
Cousin--"Yes, Uncle EngineerDad is boooring."
Me--"Why?"
Cousin--"Because he mutes the TV during commercials."
Me--"Oh look, I need to go and do the dishes.  Talk to you later."

Can anyone explain this to me?  I don't understand it.

IMO, the REAL creativity on TV these days IS in the commercials.  I bet the kid preferred the commercials to the regular programming.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Coralreef on January 06, 2012, 02:08:26 PM
My mother has always been good with explanations that lack one or two critical components.

Bit of background:
Brother moved to another house on the same street his first house was.  I'm visiting his town along with all the rest of the family to celebrate brother's 50th birthday.  Mom is already at his house. 

Phone call to brother's house, mom answers:

Me : Hi, we just arrived, what is brother's address?
Mom : It's on the same street as his other house.
Me : I know, I need the house number.
Mom : You just take the same street!
Me : I need the house number.
Mom: It's on the same street.
Me : I know it's on the same street, but there are a hundred houses there, which one is it?
Mom : It's on the same street, behind the shopping center.
Me : Let me talk to Bro or SIL.
Mom : But it's on the same street!
Lather, rinse, repeat...

Somewhere in this madness, SIL grabs the phone and gives me the door number.  I just know she's about to wet her pants laughing, my ex was crying with laughter over the steering wheel.  When we get there, Mom's fist comment : I TOLD you it was on the same street!  NEVER, EVER, EVER ask directions from Mother.

Why in heck won't she just tell you?  :o
It was on the SAME street... I think her brain stopped there.  I should have gone knocking on every door and get well wishes for brother...  As I said, sometimes, crutial or Sweet monkey fritters!?!? info is just not what is important to her. 

My sister was almost attacked by a stalker. Mother's main gripe was not that sister was almost raped, but that the would be rapist only had 5 cents on him at the time (according to what the police officer told us).  I haven't tried to make sense of Mom's priorities for years.  I feel much liberated.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 06, 2012, 02:11:23 PM
OK, I am officially boggled by that bit of MomLogic.   :o   

Did she feel sorry for him because he was broke?  Should he have taken your sister for dinner and a movie? 

I do think my brain is now sprained.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jedikaiti on January 06, 2012, 02:12:42 PM
EngineerDad = my father, also an engineer, who is a mentor for Science Olympiad in his spare time (building projects mostly)
Cousin = 8 years old, only see him 1 or 2 times a year

Cousin was getting on my last nerve, so I suggested he go outside and talk to Uncle EngineerDad (and hopefully work off some energy running around outside).

Cousin--"No, Uncle EngineerDad is boring."
Me--"The same Uncle EngineerDad who builds rockets and airplanes and launches them in the backyard?  That Uncle EngineerDad is boring?"
Cousin--"Yes, Uncle EngineerDad is boooring."
Me--"Why?"
Cousin--"Because he mutes the TV during commercials."
Me--"Oh look, I need to go and do the dishes.  Talk to you later."

Can anyone explain this to me?  I don't understand it.

IMO, the REAL creativity on TV these days IS in the commercials.  I bet the kid preferred the commercials to the regular programming.

Except for that year the Saints were playing, the commercials are the only reason I watch the SuperBowl! Although the last few years, the commercials just haven't been all that good.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jedikaiti on January 06, 2012, 02:13:21 PM
My mother has always been good with explanations that lack one or two critical components.

Bit of background:
Brother moved to another house on the same street his first house was.  I'm visiting his town along with all the rest of the family to celebrate brother's 50th birthday.  Mom is already at his house. 

Phone call to brother's house, mom answers:

Me : Hi, we just arrived, what is brother's address?
Mom : It's on the same street as his other house.
Me : I know, I need the house number.
Mom : You just take the same street!
Me : I need the house number.
Mom: It's on the same street.
Me : I know it's on the same street, but there are a hundred houses there, which one is it?
Mom : It's on the same street, behind the shopping center.
Me : Let me talk to Bro or SIL.
Mom : But it's on the same street!
Lather, rinse, repeat...

Somewhere in this madness, SIL grabs the phone and gives me the door number.  I just know she's about to wet her pants laughing, my ex was crying with laughter over the steering wheel.  When we get there, Mom's fist comment : I TOLD you it was on the same street!  NEVER, EVER, EVER ask directions from Mother.

Why in heck won't she just tell you?  :o
It was on the SAME street... I think her brain stopped there.  I should have gone knocking on every door and get well wishes for brother...  As I said, sometimes, crutial or Sweet monkey fritters!?!? info is just not what is important to her. 

My sister was almost attacked by a stalker. Mother's main gripe was not that sister was almost raped, but that the would be rapist only had 5 cents on him at the time (according to what the police officer told us).  I haven't tried to make sense of Mom's priorities for years.  I feel much liberated.

Have you checked her spark plugs? It sounds like something is firing out of sync.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: WhiteTigerCub on January 06, 2012, 02:17:09 PM
My mother has always been good with explanations that lack one or two critical components.

Bit of background:
Brother moved to another house on the same street his first house was.  I'm visiting his town along with all the rest of the family to celebrate brother's 50th birthday.  Mom is already at his house. 

Phone call to brother's house, mom answers:

Me : Hi, we just arrived, what is brother's address?
Mom : It's on the same street as his other house.
Me : I know, I need the house number.
Mom : You just take the same street!
Me : I need the house number.
Mom: It's on the same street.
Me : I know it's on the same street, but there are a hundred houses there, which one is it?
Mom : It's on the same street, behind the shopping center.
Me : Let me talk to Bro or SIL.
Mom : But it's on the same street!
Lather, rinse, repeat...

Somewhere in this madness, SIL grabs the phone and gives me the door number.  I just know she's about to wet her pants laughing, my ex was crying with laughter over the steering wheel.  When we get there, Mom's fist comment : I TOLD you it was on the same street!  NEVER, EVER, EVER ask directions from Mother.

Why in heck won't she just tell you?  :o
It was on the SAME street... I think her brain stopped there.  I should have gone knocking on every door and get well wishes for brother...  As I said, sometimes, crutial or Sweet monkey fritters!?!? info is just not what is important to her. 

My sister was almost attacked by a stalker. Mother's main gripe was not that sister was almost raped, but that the would be rapist only had 5 cents on him at the time (according to what the police officer told us).  I haven't tried to make sense of Mom's priorities for years.  I feel much liberated.

Have you checked her spark plugs? It sounds like something is firing out of sync.

She probably didn't know the number but figured OP would know which house it was by the familiar cars parked out in front. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: magicdomino on January 06, 2012, 02:27:42 PM
*assumes position of supplication*

sorry guys I didn't know the standard abbrv. for siblings (based on your posts there seem to be several, actually, what is the standard?) used on this forum. Read newbie intro post on forum abbrv but there were so many it was alphabet soup in front of my eyes after a while.  :(

What makes sense to me makes no sense to anyone else! *SIGH*

*hands out asperin* ----> *is arrested for virtual drug dealing*  :P

PS: @Traska - I wish my brothers names were Dagobert and Galahad - that would be SO cool!  ;D I'm going to tell my Bro his name is Dagobert now...

I think you should call them Dagobert and Galahad whenever you refer to them on here.  You can call them that in real life too, but I'm not sure if they will answer.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on January 06, 2012, 02:28:59 PM
My mother has always been good with explanations that lack one or two critical components.

Bit of background:
Brother moved to another house on the same street his first house was.  I'm visiting his town along with all the rest of the family to celebrate brother's 50th birthday.  Mom is already at his house. 

Phone call to brother's house, mom answers:

Me : Hi, we just arrived, what is brother's address?
Mom : It's on the same street as his other house.
Me : I know, I need the house number.
Mom : You just take the same street!
Me : I need the house number.
Mom: It's on the same street.
Me : I know it's on the same street, but there are a hundred houses there, which one is it?
Mom : It's on the same street, behind the shopping center.
Me : Let me talk to Bro or SIL.
Mom : But it's on the same street!
Lather, rinse, repeat...

Somewhere in this madness, SIL grabs the phone and gives me the door number.  I just know she's about to wet her pants laughing, my ex was crying with laughter over the steering wheel.  When we get there, Mom's fist comment : I TOLD you it was on the same street!  NEVER, EVER, EVER ask directions from Mother.

Why in heck won't she just tell you?  :o

I thin in her way she *is* just telling... she just doesn't "get" that she isn't giving the information needed.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on January 06, 2012, 02:39:10 PM
EngineerDad = my father, also an engineer, who is a mentor for Science Olympiad in his spare time (building projects mostly)
Cousin = 8 years old, only see him 1 or 2 times a year

Cousin was getting on my last nerve, so I suggested he go outside and talk to Uncle EngineerDad (and hopefully work off some energy running around outside).

Cousin--"No, Uncle EngineerDad is boring."
Me--"The same Uncle EngineerDad who builds rockets and airplanes and launches them in the backyard?  That Uncle EngineerDad is boring?"
Cousin--"Yes, Uncle EngineerDad is boooring."
Me--"Why?"
Cousin--"Because he mutes the TV during commercials."
Me--"Oh look, I need to go and do the dishes.  Talk to you later."

Can anyone explain this to me?  I don't understand it.
Young children think that commercials = part of the show.  Try playing a Disney videotape for a 5-year-old and fast-forwarding through all the trailers for OTHER Disney videos.  (Yes, I know, DVDs will let you skip this. Grandma = old-fashioned.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Coralreef on January 06, 2012, 02:47:34 PM
My mother has always been good with explanations that lack one or two critical components.

Bit of background:
Brother moved to another house on the same street his first house was.  I'm visiting his town along with all the rest of the family to celebrate brother's 50th birthday.  Mom is already at his house. 

Phone call to brother's house, mom answers:

Me : Hi, we just arrived, what is brother's address?
Mom : It's on the same street as his other house.
Me : I know, I need the house number.
Mom : You just take the same street!
Me : I need the house number.
Mom: It's on the same street.
Me : I know it's on the same street, but there are a hundred houses there, which one is it?
Mom : It's on the same street, behind the shopping center.
Me : Let me talk to Bro or SIL.
Mom : But it's on the same street!
Lather, rinse, repeat...

Somewhere in this madness, SIL grabs the phone and gives me the door number.  I just know she's about to wet her pants laughing, my ex was crying with laughter over the steering wheel.  When we get there, Mom's fist comment : I TOLD you it was on the same street!  NEVER, EVER, EVER ask directions from Mother.

Why in heck won't she just tell you?  :o

I thin in her way she *is* just telling... she just doesn't "get" that she isn't giving the information needed.

Exactly!  If something is obvious to her, she doesn't seem to understand that it's not obvious to someone else.  Therefore, that information is not given, because it is obvious and everyone shoudl know without having to be told.  Unfortunately, I'm not a telepath or clairvoyant. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: lowspark on January 06, 2012, 02:49:02 PM
I used to work with a woman from Alaska. She was constantly amazed at how many people didn't know that Alaska is a state.

Recently I was with a friend as she was closing out an investment account shortly before moving out of state. There was a question about whether her current representative would be able to help her or not based on which state she would actually be living in at the time the transaction was completed. He at first insisted he was not licensed in the state she was moving to and would therefore have to turn her file over to someone else to handle. On the visit where I was with her, he then said he actually WAS licensed in that state. This guy was rude and flaky on lots of counts so when he said this she was a bit taken aback and asked for proof since he clearly didn't know where he was licensed and where he wasn't. He got all huffy and said, "There are fifty-some-odd states! I can't remember all of them!"

We looked at each other and I mumbled something about how I was under the impression there were exactly fifty states.

We still joke about that!

I have a friend who develops geographic software, who insisted one day at lunch that Hawaii was the 51st state. I had him look it up on his smart phone, but clearly Google was wrong. We were eating next to city hall, which was flying an American flag, so we sat there and counted stars, but city hall also was wrong, and was apparently flying a 50 year old flag. Eventually he said, "Let's just agree to disagree." Uh, yeah, no. You're wrong, I'm right.

You should have just mentioned to your friend the name of a pretty famous & popular TV show... Hawaii 5-0. That's what the 5-0 means - 50th state.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on January 06, 2012, 03:11:13 PM
Wow, that's hilarious.  I assumed that Hawaii 5-0 meant Hawaii police, but I haven't seen the show, so I don't know what it's actually about.  I think that 5-0 is also the code for police, maybe, although I may have the wrong number.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: wolfie on January 06, 2012, 03:14:44 PM
Wow, that's hilarious.  I assumed that Hawaii 5-0 meant Hawaii police, but I haven't seen the show, so I don't know what it's actually about.  I think that 5-0 is also the code for police, maybe, although I may have the wrong number.

5 0 is code for police because of the original Hawaii 5-0 show. It drifted into the language.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: heathert on January 06, 2012, 03:18:36 PM
OK, I am officially boggled by that bit of MomLogic.   :o   

Did she feel sorry for him because he was broke?  Should he have taken your sister for dinner and a movie? 

I do think my brain is now sprained.

LOL!!!! You're killing me over here!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Flora Louise on January 06, 2012, 03:45:11 PM
This thread came to mind as I watched Johnny Galecki on Conan's show last night. He was telling tales on his younger brother who is, according to Johnny, a mechanical genius who is clueless about everything else. He said his brother once called him and asked, "How old am I?" Johnny said, "You're 27." The brother muttered and hung up. Apparently, he'd made a bet on his own age at a bar. And lost.

But my favorite story was that the brother got a tatoo in honor of his father on his upper right arm. A large ornate "R" for their dad's name, Richard.  Johnny said his brother was considering getting one in honor of their mother on the other arm. Her name was Louise. Conan, and I, fell down.  ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on January 06, 2012, 04:08:15 PM
My mother has always been good with explanations that lack one or two critical components.

Bit of background:
Brother moved to another house on the same street his first house was.  I'm visiting his town along with all the rest of the family to celebrate brother's 50th birthday.  Mom is already at his house. 

Phone call to brother's house, mom answers:

Me : Hi, we just arrived, what is brother's address?
Mom : It's on the same street as his other house.
Me : I know, I need the house number.
Mom : You just take the same street!
Me : I need the house number.
Mom: It's on the same street.
Me : I know it's on the same street, but there are a hundred houses there, which one is it?
Mom : It's on the same street, behind the shopping center.
Me : Let me talk to Bro or SIL.
Mom : But it's on the same street!
Lather, rinse, repeat...

Somewhere in this madness, SIL grabs the phone and gives me the door number.  I just know she's about to wet her pants laughing, my ex was crying with laughter over the steering wheel.  When we get there, Mom's fist comment : I TOLD you it was on the same street!  NEVER, EVER, EVER ask directions from Mother.

That's how it goes when my MIL gives directions, along with a lot of verbiage like "turn right, but you're sort of bearing left." DH spends his work days driving to houses with just a street address in hand, and he truly does not want to hear directions-he wants a street address and to figure out how to get there on his own. So they have a lot of conversations like that.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: alkira6 on January 06, 2012, 07:55:42 PM
OOOOhhhh, the insurance one made me remember what happened when I had my first oral surgery. Insurance company contacted, everthing approved, surgery goes well. A few weeks later I get a bill for $300. I called the insurance company and am told that the surgery is covered, supplies were covered, the nurse is covered, aftercare supplies are covered, but anesthesia is considered nonessential. WHAT?!

Several conversational back and forths later I hung up in frustration and called the oral surgeon's office. They promised to take care of it. Apparently the insurance company needed an actuaql letter on file saying that opening up my gums and part of my jaw and keeping them open for over an hour while being operatedon required anesthesia.

I have had to go through this every. time. I have had surgery. The last time I included a little cartoon of me being hit by a mallet with little birds in a circle around my head and asked them if this was how they expected me to get through surgery. (yes, I actually did that. I have very few limits for most things).
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 06, 2012, 07:58:49 PM
Y'all reminded me of this one:

My daughter had to have oral surgery.  We duly submit the claim to insurance.  The medical insurance refuses the claim because it was in the mouth and therefore the dental insurance should pay it.  The dental insurance refused the claim because it was surgery and the medical plan should pay. 

I think we finally gave up.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: CuriousParty on January 06, 2012, 08:25:02 PM
OOOOhhhh, the insurance one made me remember what happened when I had my first oral surgery. Insurance company contacted, everthing approved, surgery goes well. A few weeks later I get a bill for $300. I called the insurance company and am told that the surgery is covered, supplies were covered, the nurse is covered, aftercare supplies are covered, but anesthesia is considered nonessential. WHAT?!
I had a similar conversation with my insurance, actually. The procedure in question, though, was a C-section. My side of the conversation was mostly almog the lines of "Are you KIDDING me??!!"

It was quickly resolved.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: HappilyInsane on January 06, 2012, 08:35:32 PM
Pretty much any conversation I have with our newest coworker. ( She's over 40 with grown children.)
She isn't allowed to have chewing gum because she "forgets" that it isn't candy and swallows it.  :o.

In one conversation, we were discussing eggs, (scrambled, fried, etc... we work in a kitchen btw) and she got the most puzzled look on her face and said "How do you FRY an egg??!". It's hard to convey tone here, but it was as if I had mentioned fried water.

She's going to school to be a psychologist. I'm terrified for her future clients. It's not just cooking things she has issues with. She is very naive about many things and seems totally oblivious to things going on around her.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jayhawk on January 06, 2012, 08:48:09 PM
The two worst tasting water supplies I've ever encountered were both in the Miss. valley-Ruston, LA and Moline, Illinois. When we were in Ruston, my daughter was an infant and we were supplementing with formula. I had to get bottled water to make her formula because she didn't like the tap water either.  :)

My mom grew up in Kewanee, Illinois (about an hour from Moline) and we'd go back to visit my grandmother and other relatives.  That water was, um, distinctive.  It was okay if it was chilled in the fridge. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on January 06, 2012, 08:54:27 PM
My first ultrasound when I was pregnant with Babybartfast got accidentally submitted under DH's name.  It was rejected, not because he was a man and therefore probably not pregnant, but because he had just changed jobs and the insurance company alleged his pregnancy was a preexisting condition  :o
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: bduckie on January 06, 2012, 09:01:13 PM
^^^  ::)
That is hilarious!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Coralreef on January 06, 2012, 09:41:11 PM
My first ultrasound when I was pregnant with Babybartfast got accidentally submitted under DH's name.  It was rejected, not because he was a man and therefore probably not pregnant, but because he had just changed jobs and the insurance company alleged his pregnancy was a preexisting condition  :o
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

That's the best one I heard today.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on January 06, 2012, 09:45:55 PM
My first ultrasound when I was pregnant with Babybartfast got accidentally submitted under DH's name.  It was rejected, not because he was a man and therefore probably not pregnant, but because he had just changed jobs and the insurance company alleged his pregnancy was a preexisting condition  :o
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

That's the best one I heard today.

The really sad part was the first-level CSR didn't get what the problem was, so I had to be escalated to a supervisor.  DH has a androgynous name, so maybe she thought I was actually DH'sName and was lying?  Anyway, it got sorted out fairly quickly, but I was  ::) ::) ::) the whole time.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: amylouky on January 06, 2012, 10:10:18 PM
My sister's hospital bill for her firstborn included an amount for circumcision. She called the hospital billing department and actually had to argue with them to get it taken off.
Did I mention my sister gave birth to a girl?   ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Softly Spoken on January 06, 2012, 10:32:52 PM

BroG: (scornfully) That's not real!

 ;D Yes it was! And it required 17 takes!

 ;D Exactly. And now please, a moment of silence for the 17 stunt men who went above and beyond, literally giving their very lives so that this movie would be awesome... ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on January 06, 2012, 11:59:43 PM
Quote
What's the other category of ambulance ride, nonessential

Actually. Yes. There are non-essential uses. I was brought home from the hospital in an ambulance after I broke my ankle. It wasn't an emergency; they just did it because they could. Helped me inside and got me situated of the sofa, too. They were really nice.

I'm not saying your situation wasn't essential or an emergency. But there are times when they're not. And insurance isn't required to pay for it at those times.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Adelaide on January 07, 2012, 12:06:13 AM
I went shopping today and needed to return a mascara at MakeupStore and exchange it for a different one. The policy is that you have to show some sort of picture ID for you to get credited back if you don't have a receipt. I happened to have my passport handier than my license.

Cashier: "May I see a picture ID?"
Me: "Here you go." *hands passport*
Cashier: "It needs to be an ID."
Me: "....it's a passport."
Cashier: "Okay, it's working. We just don't usually have this problem."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: crella on January 07, 2012, 12:35:27 AM
Pretty much any conversation I have with our newest coworker. ( She's over 40 with grown children.)
She isn't allowed to have chewing gum because she "forgets" that it isn't candy and swallows it.  :o.

In one conversation, we were discussing eggs, (scrambled, fried, etc... we work in a kitchen btw) and she got the most puzzled look on her face and said "How do you FRY an egg??!".

I wonder if she had a brain-glitch and was thinking 'deep-fry'?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jedikaiti on January 07, 2012, 12:35:54 AM
My mother has always been good with explanations that lack one or two critical components.

Bit of background:
Brother moved to another house on the same street his first house was.  I'm visiting his town along with all the rest of the family to celebrate brother's 50th birthday.  Mom is already at his house. 

Phone call to brother's house, mom answers:

Me : Hi, we just arrived, what is brother's address?
Mom : It's on the same street as his other house.
Me : I know, I need the house number.
Mom : You just take the same street!
Me : I need the house number.
Mom: It's on the same street.
Me : I know it's on the same street, but there are a hundred houses there, which one is it?
Mom : It's on the same street, behind the shopping center.
Me : Let me talk to Bro or SIL.
Mom : But it's on the same street!
Lather, rinse, repeat...

Somewhere in this madness, SIL grabs the phone and gives me the door number.  I just know she's about to wet her pants laughing, my ex was crying with laughter over the steering wheel.  When we get there, Mom's fist comment : I TOLD you it was on the same street!  NEVER, EVER, EVER ask directions from Mother.

I was just playing on the xkcd web site, and stumbled upon this:

http://xkcd.com/783/

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: shadowfox79 on January 07, 2012, 03:43:13 AM
Just remembered this one from my old office.

My desk phone wasn't working, so I put in a job with IT to get it fixed. I gave them all the details of what wasn't working and which room I was in, as one does.

Two days later I got an email from an IT technician. He had gone to the office I used to work in two years previously and been told I didn't work there (I don't even know where he got that information, as my current location was the one in all the records) so he had tried to call me and "got no response". If I didn't get back to him he would assume the job was closed.  :o

Of course you got no response, idiot - my phone isn't working! That's what you're coming to fix!

Rather than reply to him directly, I just called the IT helpdesk on another phone and explained the problem. From the tone of the other guy's voice, he was having as much trouble processing this as I was.

I got it fixed, but I still wonder what they said to the first bloke they'd sent out when they realised what he'd done.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: oz diva on January 07, 2012, 04:07:38 AM
My sister's hospital bill for her firstborn included an amount for circumcision. She called the hospital billing department and actually had to argue with them to get it taken off.
Did I mention my sister gave birth to a girl?   ;D

Well of course in many countries they do circumcise girls too.  ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: littlelauraj on January 07, 2012, 08:35:18 AM
Apparently insurance companies don't like anesthesia, because I had the same problem after a tubal ligation.  Since it was an elective surgery we had to get prior approval.  That went fine, everything got paid.  Just not the anesthesiologist.  Our insurance company denied the claim.  After multiple phone calls, my husband finally got someone on the line who said, "Well, it has to be pre-approved."  "Yes, I think you'll see we got pre-approval."  "Oh, yes you did."  "Tell me, did your company expect my wife to bite a bullet while having this pre-approved surgery, or can you please pay the claim?"  They paid the claim.  It still makes my brain hurt, though, that it wasn't automatically paid as part of the surgery.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 07, 2012, 08:44:21 AM
Maybe they just don't like people sleeping.

My husband has two sleep disorders and has been prescribed sleeping medication.  We have had more trouble getting that scrip filled than any of the other 15 or so he takes.

Why can't they just fill the scrip as the doctor wrote it instead of all the arguing?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on January 07, 2012, 08:57:23 AM
Maybe they just don't like people sleeping.

My husband has two sleep disorders and has been prescribed sleeping medication.  We have had more trouble getting that scrip filled than any of the other 15 or so he takes.

Why can't they just fill the scrip as the doctor wrote it instead of all the arguing?
Because they can't or won't interpret their own regulations the same way that we do?  I was showing signs of having sleep apnea, so my doctor referred me for a sleep study.  There was no problem with the insurance paying for that, but the study showed that I DID have sleep apnea.  My doctor, accordingly, wrote me a scrip for a CPAP machine. (It blows air in through your nose to keep your airways from closing down.)  The insurance denied it -- according to their regs, you have to be hospitalized before you are eligible for "durable medical equipment".   It took several calls, and the intervention of my doctor, before the bean-counters could get it through their heads that a CPAP is not in the same class of medical equipment as a hospital bed or a toilet-chair!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hermanne on January 07, 2012, 11:35:40 AM
All these insurance stories remind me of Bob Parr's boss in the movie The Incredibles.
"What are you doing to keep Insur-a-care IN THE BLACK?!"
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Beyond The Veil on January 07, 2012, 11:47:50 AM
Oh boy, all of this insurance talk is making me slightly nervous. I have to get my wisdom teeth (all in the gum) extracted in oral surgery, and insurance is what I'm worried about because we can't afford it otherwise!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 07, 2012, 12:48:17 PM
Maybe they just don't like people sleeping.

My husband has two sleep disorders and has been prescribed sleeping medication.  We have had more trouble getting that scrip filled than any of the other 15 or so he takes.

Why can't they just fill the scrip as the doctor wrote it instead of all the arguing?
Because they can't or won't interpret their own regulations the same way that we do?  I was showing signs of having sleep apnea, so my doctor referred me for a sleep study.  There was no problem with the insurance paying for that, but the study showed that I DID have sleep apnea.  My doctor, accordingly, wrote me a scrip for a CPAP machine. (It blows air in through your nose to keep your airways from closing down.)  The insurance denied it -- according to their regs, you have to be hospitalized before you are eligible for "durable medical equipment".   It took several calls, and the intervention of my doctor, before the bean-counters could get it through their heads that a CPAP is not in the same class of medical equipment as a hospital bed or a toilet-chair!

I'm sorry to hear that - our insurance company has had no problem with the CPAP.  I guess breathing is OK as long as you don't sleep while you are doing it.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on January 07, 2012, 01:05:07 PM
I find it frightening hat an insurance administrator thinks they can overrule a doctor with regards to what is, and is not, medically necessary.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: HappilyInsane on January 07, 2012, 01:15:45 PM


I wonder if she had a brain-glitch and was thinking 'deep-fry'?

Possibly, but you just never know with her. She openly admits that she has memory issues and can't remember things unless she writes them down... but never can be bothered to write down anything important we tell her, so we wind up telling her things over and over and over.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Xallanthia on January 07, 2012, 01:16:10 PM
Piratelvr1121 wrote:

"There's a scene that has Captain Jack and Davy Jones swordfighting on a yardarm of the Flying Dutchman during a maelstrom while the Black Pearl and Flying Dutchman are firing at each other.

The guy says "Oh, that's not realistic, that goes against the laws of physics!""

My wife did that once.  We were watching Dragonheart and she confessed that she didn't like it.  When I asked her why, she said (I kid you not), "It's unrealistic."

"Um, what?" sez I.

"In real life a dragon couldn't turn like that."

(insert needle-scratch sound here).

Virg

I would totally do that. I like the explanation of 'internal consistency' that someone suggested earlier. My attitude is more or less "Okay, film-maker, I have met you half way. I have agreed to suspend my understanding of surface area to volume ratios and basic physics and accept that this dragon is real. That's fine, I've done my bit. Now you want me to ignore SKELETAL STRUCTURE as well?! I think not!! You have betrayed me!"

Because come on, there are limits.  ;D

It really annoys me in movies like that when they get basic sailing things wrong.  Like in the first movie when they're running from the Pearl, and Gibbs says, "Hands aloft to loose t'gallants!  With this wind dead astern, she'll carry every sail she's got!" (emphasis mine).  If the wind is dead astern, that is to say directly behind a square-rigged ship (like both the Pearl and the Interceptor), the wind will all go into the rearmost sails and none reaches the ones in front.  The fastest way to sail with the wind dead astern is some combination of sails on the main and foremasts (the exact combination depends on the ship).  Even better is to turn slightly so that the wind is hitting you about 1/4 of the way up the ship (halfway between the middle and the stern).  THIS configuration allows every sail to be set.  It's called "Reaching" and is the fastest point of sail for a square-rigged ship.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: blue2000 on January 07, 2012, 01:23:21 PM
I find it frightening hat an insurance administrator thinks they can overrule a doctor with regards to what is, and is not, medically necessary.

From what I've heard, the doctor can still order it but the patient pays - and often they can't or won't do that. So the doctor is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Doctor Grumpy - http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/ has a few rants about trying to talk to insurance companies. At least one of those cases was life-threatening. It didn't make a difference to the insurance company (the guy lived, BTW).
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Nora on January 07, 2012, 01:27:40 PM
I find it frightening hat an insurance administrator thinks they can overrule a doctor with regards to what is, and is not, medically necessary.

That is not just the case in the US. Norway is a welfare state. Everyone in this country can get any medical procedure they need done for free excluding purely cosmetic surgery, but in many of those cases your dr can apply for you to have it for free if it has an impact on your mental health. Essential medical equipment falls under this as well.

I work in healthcare, and have written many many many letters dictated by hospital doctors, surgeons, professors with 12 + years of education where they practically have to spell out why the patient with a horrible degenerative muscle disease needs a stair lift/special shower/wheel chair. This should not be necessary, as the dr already wrote a statement when the equipment was first ordered, but we get so many bounced back orders from NAV (state institution that distributes money), that I frequently have to write 2 or 3 separate letters after the order is sent in. The dr has to dictate these. The dr who could spend his/her time 10 000 000 times better while treating patients or doing something, you know, not already decided on, asked for, and written out.   

I have a joint condition that at times all but cripples me. To be able to sit upright during those bad phases I need this:

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_ZoIEIgr77vTrQxS2XLegjIdlNs2ylOE1uelo0DLvqyHzJYznfg)

Since I work in health care I came prepared for a fight (cushion costs 614 USD, could not possibly afford it by myself), and I had my dr fill out the forms while I was there. He told me he actually appreciated it, as I had done many more of these orders than he had.  ;)

I had to send and resend the information five (5!) times, 1 time from my office in the hospital with the blessing of my boss to do it while she paid me, before the guy at NAV went "Oh wait, you totally qualify for this" and send me the blippety pillow.

Healthcare is flawed everywhere. We really do try our best though!

P.s: it does really affirm my faith in people in general, and doctors in particular, when I open a file created in the middle of the night during a looooong shift, and a doctors voice filled with deliberation and righteous anger dictates the longest, most patient letter in the world to NAV, just so an old lady in Huttogheitti can receive her special crutch. They do care, so so much! Do not let the very few bad apples in the bunch ruin your impression of the rest of them. The vast majority do not go to school for 12 years to study Neurology, Gynecology,  Oncology or any one of the other -ologies to be in it for the money. There are much faster and easier ways to get rich. They did it because they are passionate about helping.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: o_gal on January 07, 2012, 02:00:11 PM
We did a vacation in Paris and some other areas of France one summer. I read advice on the net that you should call your credit card companies ahead of your trip to let them know you'll be using the card in another country (we're in the US). I did that, we did the trip, it was fabulous, but on returning home found that one of my credit cards was cancelled (went to use it and it was declined.) I called the credit card company to find out what was up.

Me: Hi, I'm calling to see why my card was cancelled.
CSR: Yes, it shows that you used it in another country.
Me: But I called your company and there should be a note in my file that it will be used in France between dates X and Y.
CSR: Oh yes, I see that now. But we did try to contact you but got no answer.
Me: What number did you call?
CSR: The number on file.
Me: So you called this number - XXX-YYY-ZZZZ? That would be my home number in the US.
CSR: Yes, but there was no answer so we had to cancel the card.
Me: So l let me get this straight. I call you to tell you I will be France between certain dates. While in France on those dates, I use the card and it triggers something in your system. So in order to confirm that I am using the card in France, on the dates that I told you I would be in France, you called my number in the US to get confirmation that yes, I am using it in France?
CSR: Oh.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: drzim on January 07, 2012, 02:07:33 PM
OOOOhhhh, the insurance one made me remember what happened when I had my first oral surgery. Insurance company contacted, everthing approved, surgery goes well. A few weeks later I get a bill for $300. I called the insurance company and am told that the surgery is covered, supplies were covered, the nurse is covered, aftercare supplies are covered, but anesthesia is considered nonessential. WHAT?!

Several conversational back and forths later I hung up in frustration and called the oral surgeon's office. They promised to take care of it. Apparently the insurance company needed an actuaql letter on file saying that opening up my gums and part of my jaw and keeping them open for over an hour while being operatedon required anesthesia.

I have had to go through this every. time. I have had surgery. The last time I included a little cartoon of me being hit by a mallet with little birds in a circle around my head and asked them if this was how they expected me to get through surgery. (yes, I actually did that. I have very few limits for most things).

I had to go the surgery route to extract impacted wisdom teeth.  Apparently, it took a bit longer than anticipated, and I started to wake up during the surgery! :o   So the doctor gave a second dose, which the insurance company denied.   >:(    My dad (I was on my parent's insurance at the time) had to argue with them for weeks until they finally agreed to pay.  It still doesn't make sense that they would pay for one dose, but not a second dose.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on January 07, 2012, 02:56:13 PM
My husband had this exchange just the other day:

AMBULANCE COMPANY IN WA: We can't code this as an emergency call.  [Meaning: The insurance company is going to make you pay for almost all of it.]
DH: You picked up a heavily sedated child who was medevaced to Washington because the hospital here said that he might die at any minute and therefore he had to be within reach of the trauma team at Harborview.  He was kept sedated while in your vehicle because if he woke up and thrashed around he might die right in your vehicle.  How is this not an emergency call?
AMBULANCE COMPANY REP: Because we weren't summoned to the airport via the 911 service.  So it wasn't an emergency call.
DH: Did your driver notice the LifeFlight logo on the tail of that plane?  Or the caduceus?  Or the large amounts of lifesaving equipment attached to the child?
AMBULANCE COMPANY REP: That doesn't make it an emergency call.
DH: Look, why in the blankety blank would anybody be riding in a medical evacuation services plane, sedated and immobilized on pain of sudden death, if they had not been having an emergency in the first place?!  What's the other category of ambulance ride, nonessential?  How the frickety frack else could he  have gotten to the hospital, in the back of a pickup truck?  On a bus?
AMBULANCE COMPANY REP: Well . . . uh . . . okay, we recoded it, call your insurance company and tell them we recoded it.
INSURANCE COMPANY REP: Oh, no, they have to call us.  We can't call them and check to see whether they changed the coding.
AMBULANCE COMPANY REP: Oh, no, they have to call us. We can't call them and tell them we changed the coding.  Or you can tell them.

Yes, I know that in the good old U S of A if you can't pay cash for medical services you are a lesser human being, but come ON!
Do you have a case worker through the hospital? My sister's job is to help families deal with nonsense like this.  She can often slice through the red tape a good deal faster because she knows the relevant laws and regulations. Once she and her boss even got ICE to expetite a woman's visit to the US to say goodbye to her adult daughter, who was dying of cancer. (Sis didn't violate privacy. The information came through the family. Their kids were students at my school. Our social worker met sis, while helping the family. Sis mentioned that I was her sister.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on January 07, 2012, 03:17:32 PM
Apparently insurance companies don't like anesthesia, because I had the same problem after a tubal ligation.  Since it was an elective surgery we had to get prior approval.  That went fine, everything got paid.  Just not the anesthesiologist.  Our insurance company denied the claim.  After multiple phone calls, my husband finally got someone on the line who said, "Well, it has to be pre-approved."  "Yes, I think you'll see we got pre-approval."  "Oh, yes you did."  "Tell me, did your company expect my wife to bite a bullet while having this pre-approved surgery, or can you please pay the claim?"  They paid the claim.  It still makes my brain hurt, though, that it wasn't automatically paid as part of the surgery.



A friend was an anesthesiologist. He used to say that insurance companies thought they were a luxury and  lawyers thought they were a meal ticket.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: rose red on January 07, 2012, 03:37:44 PM
There has already been one warning about insurance posts.  I love this thread and don't want it to be locked. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: littlelauraj on January 07, 2012, 03:41:36 PM
My bad!  I was so busy thinking, "Me too, me too!" that I forgot.  Sorry!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on January 07, 2012, 03:43:34 PM
Ok, back on topic.

Moon landing deniers make my brain hurt - especially those who state something outrageous and think writing "FACT" after it makes it true.

There is a MLD website which, I kid you not, has the following words on its webpage: "FACT: rumour has it that...."!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 07, 2012, 04:04:03 PM
Ok, back on topic.

Moon landing deniers make my brain hurt - especially those who state something outrageous and think writing "FACT" after it makes it true.

There is a MLD website which, I kid you not, has the following words on its webpage: "FACT: rumour has it that...."!

One of my students one day told me that the moon landing was CLEARLY faked because there were no stars in the sky so that meant they weren't in space. This made me a bit stabby, but that's hardly professional  ;D so I restrained myself and just said "Are there stars in the sky now?"
"Of course not, it's daytime"
"And are WE in space?"
"Oh"


Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 07, 2012, 04:08:54 PM
Actually, talking of students reminded me of the time, a few years ago when a Year 7 girl (about 12/13 years old) told me - in all seriousness - that she didn't need to learn any maths because the world was going to end in 2012.
I replied "No. It's not."
"It IS Miss! There was a movie about it and EVERYTHING."

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on January 07, 2012, 04:15:08 PM
Actually, talking of students reminded me of the time, a few years ago when a Year 7 girl (about 12/13 years old) told me - in all seriousness - that she didn't need to learn any maths because the world was going to end in 2012.
I replied "No. It's not."
"It IS Miss! There was a movie about it and EVERYTHING."

Ow. I suppose that the girl thinks AFI's album about said end of the world is prophecy, too.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 07, 2012, 04:28:54 PM
Actually, talking of students reminded me of the time, a few years ago when a Year 7 girl (about 12/13 years old) told me - in all seriousness - that she didn't need to learn any maths because the world was going to end in 2012.
I replied "No. It's not."
"It IS Miss! There was a movie about it and EVERYTHING."

Ow. I suppose that the girl thinks AFI's album about said end of the world is prophecy, too.

Who knows? What was really bizarre was that she didn't seem overly worried by it. Mind you, this was about 3 years ago and when you're 12 three years is a really long time.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Darcy on January 07, 2012, 04:42:28 PM
Ok, back on topic.

Moon landing deniers make my brain hurt - especially those who state something outrageous and think writing "FACT" after it makes it true.

There is a MLD website which, I kid you not, has the following words on its webpage: "FACT: rumour has it that...."!

One of my students one day told me that the moon landing was CLEARLY faked because there were no stars in the sky so that meant they weren't in space. This made me a bit stabby, but that's hardly professional  ;D so I restrained myself and just said "Are there stars in the sky now?"
"Of course not, it's daytime"
"And are WE in space?"
"Oh"

I've encountered quite a few people who believe that we just circled the earth for a while instead of going to the moon. My dad's an aerospace engineer, so I have a wonderful time explaining to people that escaping earth's gravitational pull is the hardest part, so once we're actually in space we might as well go to the moon. ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hermanne on January 07, 2012, 05:59:47 PM
Actually, talking of students reminded me of the time, a few years ago when a Year 7 girl (about 12/13 years old) told me - in all seriousness - that she didn't need to learn any maths because the world was going to end in 2012.
I replied "No. It's not."
"It IS Miss! There was a movie about it and EVERYTHING."

Ow. I suppose that the girl thinks AFI's album about said end of the world is prophecy, too.

Who knows? What was really bizarre was that she didn't seem overly worried by it. Mind you, this was about 3 years ago and when you're 12 three years is a really long time.

I have proof the world will not end in 2012! Marty McFly time-travelled to 2015! ;)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Moray on January 07, 2012, 06:01:34 PM
Actually, talking of students reminded me of the time, a few years ago when a Year 7 girl (about 12/13 years old) told me - in all seriousness - that she didn't need to learn any maths because the world was going to end in 2012.
I replied "No. It's not."
"It IS Miss! There was a movie about it and EVERYTHING."

Ow. I suppose that the girl thinks AFI's album about said end of the world is prophecy, too.

Who knows? What was really bizarre was that she didn't seem overly worried by it. Mind you, this was about 3 years ago and when you're 12 three years is a really long time.

I have proof the world will not end in 2012! Marty McFly time-travelled to 2015! ;)

*Whew* Thanks, hermanne! Now we can all rest a little easier  :D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on January 07, 2012, 06:11:14 PM
My grandmother was another who was certain that we didn't go to the moon.  Because, you see, if a rocket really HAD gone to the moon, it would have punctured the invisible 'skin' that keeps all of our atmosphere around Earth where it belongs; all the air would have gone rushing out into space through the hole.  Or maybe it would have gone BANG! like a popped balloon. 

Explanations that no, Granny, gravity keeps the air in place got nowhere.  Gravity only works on stuff what has weight, and air doesn't. She was absolutely certain that air didn't have weight, because if it did you could feel it pressing down on you.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: bopper on January 07, 2012, 06:25:13 PM
EngineerDad = my father, also an engineer, who is a mentor for Science Olympiad in his spare time (building projects mostly)
Cousin = 8 years old, only see him 1 or 2 times a year

Cousin was getting on my last nerve, so I suggested he go outside and talk to Uncle EngineerDad (and hopefully work off some energy running around outside).

Cousin--"No, Uncle EngineerDad is boring."
Me--"The same Uncle EngineerDad who builds rockets and airplanes and launches them in the backyard?  That Uncle EngineerDad is boring?"
Cousin--"Yes, Uncle EngineerDad is boooring."
Me--"Why?"
Cousin--"Because he mutes the TV during commercials."
Me--"Oh look, I need to go and do the dishes.  Talk to you later."

Can anyone explain this to me?  I don't understand it.

Cousin gets bored during commercials because there is no sound and EDad is the one who makes there be no sound, so therefore he is boring!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on January 07, 2012, 07:14:38 PM
Actually, talking of students reminded me of the time, a few years ago when a Year 7 girl (about 12/13 years old) told me - in all seriousness - that she didn't need to learn any maths because the world was going to end in 2012.
I replied "No. It's not."
"It IS Miss! There was a movie about it and EVERYTHING."


I've been hearing stuff like this from my elementary students for 2 years. What is worse is when the parents agree with them.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 07, 2012, 07:30:47 PM
Actually, talking of students reminded me of the time, a few years ago when a Year 7 girl (about 12/13 years old) told me - in all seriousness - that she didn't need to learn any maths because the world was going to end in 2012.
I replied "No. It's not."
"It IS Miss! There was a movie about it and EVERYTHING."


I've been hearing stuff like this from my elementary students for 2 years. What is worse is when the parents agree with them.

I actually toyed with making a diplomatic response for a fraction of a second just in case it was coming from home and I landed myself in hot water. Then I decided that there was no WAY that I could make any kind of diplomatic response to such utter lunacy without betraying all that I hold dear as an educator.

In a social setting naturally it would be different, but this was my CLASSROOM, darn it!  :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on January 07, 2012, 07:46:22 PM
My grandmother was another who was certain that we didn't go to the moon.  Because, you see, if a rocket really HAD gone to the moon, it would have punctured the invisible 'skin' that keeps all of our atmosphere around Earth where it belongs; all the air would have gone rushing out into space through the hole.  Or maybe it would have gone BANG! like a popped balloon. 

Explanations that no, Granny, gravity keeps the air in place got nowhere.  Gravity only works on stuff what has weight, and air doesn't. She was absolutely certain that air didn't have weight, because if it did you could feel it pressing down on you.

I just checked my grandfather's physics book, published about 1900. Yup, air has weight and is held around the earth by gravity. It's in the first chapter!  :)  (I was kind of curious to see how it was handled - really no differently than I learned in school. On the other hand, my 7th grade teacher said the sun was burning with oxygen, but that's another thread....... Maybe your grandmother had my 7th grade science teacher.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on January 07, 2012, 07:56:38 PM
Quote
"Are there stars in the sky now?"
"Of course not, it's daytime"
"And are WE in space?"
"Oh"

Why didn't you correct her? She gave the wrong answer. There are stars in the sky in the daytime. You may not be able to see many of them, but they didn't magically disappear. In fact, more than likely, you were both being illuminated by our nearest one at the time.



Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 07, 2012, 08:02:17 PM
Quote
"Are there stars in the sky now?"
"Of course not, it's daytime"
"And are WE in space?"
"Oh"

Why didn't you correct her? She gave the wrong answer. There are stars in the sky in the daytime. You may not be able to see many of them, but they didn't magically disappear. In fact, more than likely, you were both being illuminated by our nearest one at the time.

I may have asked "Can you SEE stars in the sky now?"
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on January 07, 2012, 08:08:30 PM
I know I've linked this before, but the 2012 world ending gives me another chance to show off my big screen debut (well, big screen at Dragon*Con) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D-RZDqAmnI&list=UUNycw9czr7843KaXfTH1GbQ&index=74&feature=plcp).  (Short "movie trailer.")
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 07, 2012, 08:18:08 PM
I know I've linked this before, but the 2012 world ending gives me another chance to show off my big screen debut (well, big screen at Dragon*Con) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D-RZDqAmnI&list=UUNycw9czr7843KaXfTH1GbQ&index=74&feature=plcp).  (Short "movie trailer.")

Haha! Hilarious. Did you see this one the other day?

http://xkcd.com/998/ (http://xkcd.com/998/)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Hillia on January 07, 2012, 08:18:39 PM
DS has a friend who believes absolutely -

That Beyonce's 'Sasha Fierce' stage persona is an actual demon who possesses her before each performance

That Michael Jackson was killed by the Illuminati because he was going to reveal their secrets during his upcoming tour

That Helen Keller was a member of the Illuminati and invented ASL (American Sign Language) so that they could communicate secretly. 

Finally, that the ASL sign for 'I love you' (thumb, index finger, little finger held out, two middle fingers tucked in - it's the letters I, L, Y formed simultaneously) is actually a sign acknowledging the supremacy of Satan.

These 'facts' are all taught by her extremely fundamentalist church.  What makes it so funny is that she's considering the name Lilith for her as-yet hypothetical daughter.  (In stories from Jewish folklore, Lilith was a demon who was Adam's wife before Eve.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 07, 2012, 08:19:51 PM
I know I've linked this before, but the 2012 world ending gives me another chance to show off my big screen debut (well, big screen at Dragon*Con) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D-RZDqAmnI&list=UUNycw9czr7843KaXfTH1GbQ&index=74&feature=plcp).  (Short "movie trailer.")

Nicely done!!!

I am assuming the short furry one WASN'T you.   ;)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on January 07, 2012, 08:30:51 PM
I know I've linked this before, but the 2012 world ending gives me another chance to show off my big screen debut (well, big screen at Dragon*Con) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D-RZDqAmnI&list=UUNycw9czr7843KaXfTH1GbQ&index=74&feature=plcp).  (Short "movie trailer.")

Which one are you?! And the Mayan calendar is cyclic? (Off to do some Googling!)

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: artk2002 on January 07, 2012, 09:02:45 PM
It really annoys me in movies like that when they get basic sailing things wrong.  Like in the first movie when they're running from the Pearl, and Gibbs says, "Hands aloft to loose t'gallants!  With this wind dead astern, she'll carry every sail she's got!" (emphasis mine).  If the wind is dead astern, that is to say directly behind a square-rigged ship (like both the Pearl and the Interceptor), the wind will all go into the rearmost sails and none reaches the ones in front.  The fastest way to sail with the wind dead astern is some combination of sails on the main and foremasts (the exact combination depends on the ship).  Even better is to turn slightly so that the wind is hitting you about 1/4 of the way up the ship (halfway between the middle and the stern).  THIS configuration allows every sail to be set.  It's called "Reaching" and is the fastest point of sail for a square-rigged ship.

OT, but not many people in the world know what a t'gallant is, much less how to use one effectively. Do you sail tall ships? (I was just down at the harbor picking my son up after a day sail on a brigantine.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on January 07, 2012, 09:23:00 PM
My brother and I got in a conversation some time ago in which he had difficulty with the concept of "lift" and suchforth.  He was telling me how humans could fly, if we could just flap our arms infinitely fast.  The scary thing is that he's an engineer.  Granted, an electrical one, but surely that much mean that he's taken some Newtonian physics at *some* point.  Glad he's not in aerospace.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on January 07, 2012, 09:25:27 PM
I know I've linked this before, but the 2012 world ending gives me another chance to show off my big screen debut (well, big screen at Dragon*Con) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D-RZDqAmnI&list=UUNycw9czr7843KaXfTH1GbQ&index=74&feature=plcp).  (Short "movie trailer.")

Which one are you?! And the Mayan calendar is cyclic? (Off to do some Googling!)

I'm the one at the refrigerator.  And yes, the Mayan calendar is cyclic - 2012 is the equivalent of New Year's Eve (end of the calendar year, not end of the world!).
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on January 07, 2012, 09:53:56 PM
So cool to see you. And Fuzzrat is cute!

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on January 07, 2012, 09:54:25 PM
My grandmother was another who was certain that we didn't go to the moon.  Because, you see, if a rocket really HAD gone to the moon, it would have punctured the invisible 'skin' that keeps all of our atmosphere around Earth where it belongs; all the air would have gone rushing out into space through the hole.  Or maybe it would have gone BANG! like a popped balloon. 

Explanations that no, Granny, gravity keeps the air in place got nowhere.  Gravity only works on stuff what has weight, and air doesn't. She was absolutely certain that air didn't have weight, because if it did you could feel it pressing down on you.

I just checked my grandfather's physics book, published about 1900. Yup, air has weight and is held around the earth by gravity. It's in the first chapter!  :)  (I was kind of curious to see how it was handled - really no differently than I learned in school. On the other hand, my 7th grade teacher said the sun was burning with oxygen, but that's another thread....... Maybe your grandmother had my 7th grade science teacher.)
;D Granny never got that far.  Her formal education ended with the third grade; after that she was drafted by her mother to help with the younger children.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mlkind1789 on January 07, 2012, 11:20:52 PM
Actually, talking of students reminded me of the time, a few years ago when a Year 7 girl (about 12/13 years old) told me - in all seriousness - that she didn't need to learn any maths because the world was going to end in 2012.
I replied "No. It's not."
"It IS Miss! There was a movie about it and EVERYTHING."

Ow. I suppose that the girl thinks AFI's album about said end of the world is prophecy, too.

Who knows? What was really bizarre was that she didn't seem overly worried by it. Mind you, this was about 3 years ago and when you're 12 three years is a really long time.

I have proof the world will not end in 2012! Marty McFly time-travelled to 2015! ;)

*Whew* Thanks, hermanne! Now we can all rest a little easier  :D

Not a make your brain hurt moment, just a funny sidenote. 

Oldest DD jokes that we planned her birthday on purpose because the world is supposed to end on 12/21/12.  You see, her 18th birthday is 12/22/12.   >:D

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jedikaiti on January 07, 2012, 11:24:11 PM
My brother and I got in a conversation some time ago in which he had difficulty with the concept of "lift" and suchforth.  He was telling me how humans could fly, if we could just flap our arms infinitely fast.  The scary thing is that he's an engineer.  Granted, an electrical one, but surely that much mean that he's taken some Newtonian physics at *some* point.  Glad he's not in aerospace.

They should have covered that in his Physics I class at university... although he may have been able to get by with Chemistry instead. As a CS major, I had my choice of hard sciences so long as I got the credit hours in - I took Physics since it would go along with the Astronomy classes I wanted.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MariaE on January 08, 2012, 01:46:44 AM
Finally, that the ASL sign for 'I love you' (thumb, index finger, little finger held out, two middle fingers tucked in - it's the letters I, L, Y formed simultaneously) is actually a sign acknowledging the supremacy of Satan.

Well, she's close. Index finger, little finger held out, other fingers + thumb tucked in, is a sign used (originally) by satanists. The thumb makes all the difference ;)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on January 08, 2012, 03:28:30 AM
I know I've linked this before, but the 2012 world ending gives me another chance to show off my big screen debut (well, big screen at Dragon*Con) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D-RZDqAmnI&list=UUNycw9czr7843KaXfTH1GbQ&index=74&feature=plcp).  (Short "movie trailer.")

That's excellent!  I shall use it next time someone asks about 2012 (daily, at the moment).
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on January 08, 2012, 05:34:45 AM
I know I've linked this before, but the 2012 world ending gives me another chance to show off my big screen debut (well, big screen at Dragon*Con) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D-RZDqAmnI&list=UUNycw9czr7843KaXfTH1GbQ&index=74&feature=plcp).  (Short "movie trailer.")

Which one are you?! And the Mayan calendar is cyclic? (Off to do some Googling!)

I'm the one at the refrigerator.  And yes, the Mayan calendar is cyclic - 2012 is the equivalent of New Year's Eve (end of the calendar year, not end of the world!).

Well, why wouldn't it be?  The Gregorian calendar is cyclic!  (Seriously... every 28 years.  If you have a calendar for 1984, dust that puppy off because it's good again.  This year's will be fine in 2040.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on January 08, 2012, 08:19:33 AM
My grandmother was another who was certain that we didn't go to the moon.  Because, you see, if a rocket really HAD gone to the moon, it would have punctured the invisible 'skin' that keeps all of our atmosphere around Earth where it belongs; all the air would have gone rushing out into space through the hole.  Or maybe it would have gone BANG! like a popped balloon. 

Explanations that no, Granny, gravity keeps the air in place got nowhere.  Gravity only works on stuff what has weight, and air doesn't. She was absolutely certain that air didn't have weight, because if it did you could feel it pressing down on you.

I just checked my grandfather's physics book, published about 1900. Yup, air has weight and is held around the earth by gravity. It's in the first chapter!  :)  (I was kind of curious to see how it was handled - really no differently than I learned in school. On the other hand, my 7th grade teacher said the sun was burning with oxygen, but that's another thread....... Maybe your grandmother had my 7th grade science teacher.)
;D Granny never got that far.  Her formal education ended with the third grade; after that she was drafted by her mother to help with the younger children.

How sad. I hope she had a wonderful later life.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: robobecky on January 08, 2012, 03:09:53 PM
I find it frightening hat an insurance administrator thinks they can overrule a doctor with regards to what is, and is not, medically necessary.

I haven't read the entire thread yet, but I just wanted to address this.  I work for a mental health insurance company and while we handle Medicaid and Medicare funds, so are not a private insurance, we actually  have a number of doctors (both MD and Psy D) that work for the company.  We even have a Chief Medical Officer.  As a care manager, I can approve anything that falls within the medically necessary guidelines that we use, but in order to deny anything, only a doctor can actually deny a request.  So its not random insurance administrators denying the request, its an actual doctor.  And for inpatient admissions, it is the MD that is denying, not the Psy D.  We have also handled afterhours requests for a private medical insurance company in the past, and they have a CMO as well.  So, not all insurance companies have random agents trying to overrule doctors, we have doctors overruling doctors.  And yes, we do get absolutely ridiculous requests for admission to the hospital that is. not.necessary.  That is why sometimes our docs say no.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: NyaChan on January 08, 2012, 03:12:49 PM
Please let's stop with the insurance info!  I really like this thread... :-\
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: NutMeg on January 08, 2012, 04:44:22 PM
I find it frightening hat an insurance administrator thinks they can overrule a doctor with regards to what is, and is not, medically necessary.

I haven't read the entire thread yet, but I just wanted to address this.  I work for a mental health insurance company and while we handle Medicaid and Medicare funds, so are not a private insurance, we actually  have a number of doctors (both MD and Psy D) that work for the company.  We even have a Chief Medical Officer.  As a care manager, I can approve anything that falls within the medically necessary guidelines that we use, but in order to deny anything, only a doctor can actually deny a request.  So its not random insurance administrators denying the request, its an actual doctor.  And for inpatient admissions, it is the MD that is denying, not the Psy D.  We have also handled afterhours requests for a private medical insurance company in the past, and they have a CMO as well.  So, not all insurance companies have random agents trying to overrule doctors, we have doctors overruling doctors.  And yes, we do get absolutely ridiculous requests for admission to the hospital that is. not.necessary.  That is why sometimes our docs say no.

I'm staying away from the insurance aspect of this post, but you guys have PsyDs working for you instead of PhDs? That is weird and cool. I've thought about getting a PsyD but I like research too much. :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on January 08, 2012, 05:52:49 PM
My brother and I got in a conversation some time ago in which he had difficulty with the concept of "lift" and suchforth.  He was telling me how humans could fly, if we could just flap our arms infinitely fast.  The scary thing is that he's an engineer.  Granted, an electrical one, but surely that much mean that he's taken some Newtonian physics at *some* point.  Glad he's not in aerospace.

They should have covered that in his Physics I class at university... although he may have been able to get by with Chemistry instead. As a CS major, I had my choice of hard sciences so long as I got the credit hours in - I took Physics since it would go along with the Astronomy classes I wanted.

I'm actually pretty sure that he took AP Physics in high school (like I did) as well as some Physics in high school.  But he's utterly determined that infinity makes all things happen.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on January 08, 2012, 07:05:27 PM
My brother and I got in a conversation some time ago in which he had difficulty with the concept of "lift" and suchforth.  He was telling me how humans could fly, if we could just flap our arms infinitely fast.  The scary thing is that he's an engineer.  Granted, an electrical one, but surely that much mean that he's taken some Newtonian physics at *some* point.  Glad he's not in aerospace.

They should have covered that in his Physics I class at university... although he may have been able to get by with Chemistry instead. As a CS major, I had my choice of hard sciences so long as I got the credit hours in - I took Physics since it would go along with the Astronomy classes I wanted.

I'm actually pretty sure that he took AP Physics in high school (like I did) as well as some Physics in high school.  But he's utterly determined that infinity makes all things happen.

What happens if you flap your arms infinitely fast, but the atmosphere is infinitely dense because of infinite gravity?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Kaymyth on January 08, 2012, 07:44:47 PM
My brother and I got in a conversation some time ago in which he had difficulty with the concept of "lift" and suchforth.  He was telling me how humans could fly, if we could just flap our arms infinitely fast.  The scary thing is that he's an engineer.  Granted, an electrical one, but surely that much mean that he's taken some Newtonian physics at *some* point.  Glad he's not in aerospace.

They should have covered that in his Physics I class at university... although he may have been able to get by with Chemistry instead. As a CS major, I had my choice of hard sciences so long as I got the credit hours in - I took Physics since it would go along with the Astronomy classes I wanted.

I'm actually pretty sure that he took AP Physics in high school (like I did) as well as some Physics in high school.  But he's utterly determined that infinity makes all things happen.

What happens if you flap your arms infinitely fast, but the atmosphere is infinitely dense because of infinite gravity?

Then it doesn't matter what you do, because you're in a black hole.  :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on January 08, 2012, 10:34:30 PM
But if you're in a black hole infinitely wrong and flap your arms infinitely fast, you'll eventually fly out of the hole.  I think.  According to his reasoning.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Twik on January 08, 2012, 10:38:17 PM
My father, at age 68, was very disbelieving when I tried to explain that the Sun is a star. He scoffed, because stars are so much smaller than the Sun, right? (facepalm)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: WolfWay on January 08, 2012, 10:52:35 PM
Actually, talking of students reminded me of the time, a few years ago when a Year 7 girl (about 12/13 years old) told me - in all seriousness - that she didn't need to learn any maths because the world was going to end in 2012.
I replied "No. It's not."
"It IS Miss! There was a movie about it and EVERYTHING."

Ow. I suppose that the girl thinks AFI's album about said end of the world is prophecy, too.

Who knows? What was really bizarre was that she didn't seem overly worried by it. Mind you, this was about 3 years ago and when you're 12 three years is a really long time.

I have proof the world will not end in 2012! Marty McFly time-travelled to 2015! ;)

*Whew* Thanks, hermanne! Now we can all rest a little easier  :D

Not a make your brain hurt moment, just a funny sidenote. 

Oldest DD jokes that we planned her birthday on purpose because the world is supposed to end on 12/21/12.  You see, her 18th birthday is 12/22/12.   >:D
That will also be my 33rd birthday! I've been warning everyone about the humungous scale of my next birthday party, and apologizing in advance if I blow up the planet with my awesomeness.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Virg on January 08, 2012, 11:48:37 PM
MommyPenguin wrote:

"I'm actually pretty sure that he took AP Physics in high school (like I did) as well as some Physics in high school.  But he's utterly determined that infinity makes all things happen."

Well, if you add just one assumption he could call himself right.  Assume that you turn your hands as you flap, so you generate a tiny bit more downward force on the downswing than upward force on the upswing.  Couple that with "infinitely fast" (in reality it wouldn't take infinite, just absurdly fast) and you're generating downward flow of air so you'd rise like a helicopter.

Virg
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Stormtreader on January 09, 2012, 05:48:07 AM
MommyPenguin wrote:

"I'm actually pretty sure that he took AP Physics in high school (like I did) as well as some Physics in high school.  But he's utterly determined that infinity makes all things happen."

Well, if you add just one assumption he could call himself right.  Assume that you turn your hands as you flap, so you generate a tiny bit more downward force on the downswing than upward force on the upswing.  Couple that with "infinitely fast" (in reality it wouldn't take infinite, just absurdly fast) and you're generating downward flow of air so you'd rise like a helicopter.

Virg

So if he argues for infinity that 2+2 = 5, does that make it right?  >:D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: T'Mar of Vulcan on January 09, 2012, 05:50:21 AM
So if he argues for infinity that 2+2 = 5, does that make it right?  >:D

Not unless he's a member of the Inner Party. Or a Cardassian.  >:D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: TomOBedlam on January 09, 2012, 08:55:50 AM
2 + 2 = 5 for very large values of 2.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on January 09, 2012, 08:57:09 AM
So if he argues for infinity that 2+2 = 5, does that make it right?  >:D

Not unless he's a member of the Inner Party. Or a Cardassian.  >:D

It depends on the definition of 2, +, =, and 5.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Virg on January 09, 2012, 08:58:19 AM
Stormtreader wrote:

"So if he argues for infinity that 2+2 = 5, does that make it right?"

Of course not.  If I tried it, on the other hand....  ;D

Virg
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Outdoor Girl on January 09, 2012, 09:00:07 AM
I can make 2 + 2 = 5!

Using scientific rounding convention, 2.4 would round down to 2.  But if you add 2.4 to 2.4, you get 4.8.  Which would round up to 5.

 :D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on January 09, 2012, 09:02:06 AM
I can make 2 + 2 = 5!

Using scientific rounding convention, 2.4 would round down to 2.  But if you add 2.4 to 2.4, you get 4.8.  Which would round up to 5.

 :D

You win the Internet.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MrTango on January 09, 2012, 09:13:46 AM
I can make 2 + 2 = 5!

Using scientific rounding convention, 2.4 would round down to 2.  But if you add 2.4 to 2.4, you get 4.8.  Which would round up to 5.

 :D

Except that 5! = 5*4*3*2*1 = 120.  There's no rounding in the world that can make 2 + 2 = 120.

 >:D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Midge on January 09, 2012, 09:19:53 AM

BroG: (scornfully) That's not real!

 ;D Yes it was! And it required 17 takes!

 ;D Exactly. And now please, a moment of silence for the 17 stunt men who went above and beyond, literally giving their very lives so that this movie would be awesome... ::)

 ;DThere's a pile of heads, just out of frame ...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hobish on January 09, 2012, 10:10:14 AM

From my coworker: Many rappers and former presidents are members of the illuminati, a secret devil-worshipping sect of the masons.
Apparently she learned this over the weekend and is intent on sharing it with everyone in the office. Most of us have learned to smile and nod at this coworker, but the poor woman in front of me is actually trying to argue with this nonsense. I just put in my earbuds – no music, just earbuds – and pretend the stupid doesn’t hurt so much. It burns me up that this same person talks to everyone as if they have the IQ of lawn furniture.
 :(
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Twik on January 09, 2012, 11:14:04 AM
I can make 2 + 2 = 5!

Using scientific rounding convention, 2.4 would round down to 2.  But if you add 2.4 to 2.4, you get 4.8.  Which would round up to 5.

 :D

Except that 5! = 5*4*3*2*1 = 120.  There's no rounding in the world that can make 2 + 2 = 120.

 >:D

 ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Luci on January 09, 2012, 11:25:17 AM
Darn! I can't remember the binary system! (Look it up.)

If 2 is 10 and 2 is 10...................then 10 + 10 = 100, but 5 is 101. Then switch back to decimal system without changing digits, and what's 1% among friends?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: goldilocks on January 09, 2012, 11:30:28 AM
Almost any conversation with my mother, but especially financial ones. 

My sister monitors my mother's checking account.  At the middle of the month, she informs mom that she only has $30 to get through the rest of the month.  Mom says that is not a problem.

So, Mom comes back from Walmart, with a $15 movie she bought for nephew.  Sister has a fit.

Sister:  You only have $30 and you spent half of it on a movie?
Mom:  It was on sale, it was only $15.
Sister:  But you don't have $15 to spend on a movie.  How are you going to make it the rest of the month on $15?
Mom:  It was only $15.
Sister:  But you don't have $15!
Mom:  I don't know why you are getting so upset.  It's my money, and it's only $15.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: nutraxfornerves on January 09, 2012, 11:53:50 AM
In order to make this post, I have to explain something about phone calls in the antediluvian days before calling cards and cell phones. The price of a phone call was based in part on distance. Local calls were either included in a flat rate or were really cheap. Long distance calls could be very expensive.

If you were at someone's house & didn't want to burden them with the expense of your call, or if you were using a pay phone, one option was called "third party billing." You would place the call through an operator and ask for it to be billed to another number. You might use your home or business number--or the number of some stranger pulled out of the phone book, or a number you just made up.

As you can imagine, the phone company finally abandoned this practice due to abuse. But while it still could be done, I had a really surreal phone call.

I was home in the middle of the day with a serious case of laryngitis. The phone rings:

This is Jane Doe with the phone company. Several long distance calls were made from your phone and billed to a third party who is disputing the charges.

Me: I don't remember any such calls. What wee the numbers?

Ms. Doe: the calls were placed to [some number I don't recognize] and billed to [some other number I don't recognize.

Me: I don't recognize either of those numbers?

Ms. Doe: Could it have been someone else in the house?

Me: I live alone.

Ms. Doe comes up with other scenarios--visitors, workers in the home, children, someone with a housekey. No, I tell her each time, getting more and more hoarse.

Me: Can you give me the dates and times of the calls?

Ms. Doe: this, this, this, and this.

Me: (panicking. On several of those dates, I was out of town on business. On other dates the times were during the day when I would have been at work. Was someone breaking into my house or breaking into the phone line somehow?) I was not home on date, date, and date and I am not home during working hours on weekdays. I don't see how the calls could have been made.

We go round and round again, covering the same stuff, my voice getting fainter  fainter. It's all very weird. I can see no way those calls could have been made, except by someone being sneaky. Ms Doe is politely puzzled, but obviously beginning to wonder if I am a ne'er-do-well.

Finally, after we have been talking for about 15 minutes, I croak out in desperation: And those calls were all made from my phone, 555-1234?

Ms. Doe: (Long pause) Er, no, they were all made from 123-4567. Isn't that the number I called?

Me: (barely able to whisper) No, not even close.

Ms Doe: (sounding stunned) Oh. I'll hang up and redial. If I get you again we'll take it from there.

Never heard from her again.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: White Dragon on January 09, 2012, 01:26:57 PM
Coworker was helping a customer who was booking a classified ad into our paper.

Coworker "And when would you like this to run?" (Note - next available date is Wednesday)

Customer "I guess it will have to go on Wednesday. Is it too late to get it into today's paper?"

Me, because Coworker is speechless, "Ma'am, today's paper has already been printed..."

The customer had the grace to look sheepish at least!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on January 09, 2012, 01:38:45 PM
Coworker was helping a customer who was booking a classified ad into our paper.

Coworker "And when would you like this to run?" (Note - next available date is Wednesday)

Customer "I guess it will have to go on Wednesday. Is it too late to get it into today's paper?"

Me, because Coworker is speechless, "Ma'am, today's paper has already been printed..."

The customer had the grace to look sheepish at least!

Wow.  :P

And that makes me think of the woman who visited my dad several years ago at the paper and wanted the paper to do a story about how the radio stations had killed her, but she had resurrected herself and was now wearing a tinfoil hat under her sunhat to keep the radio programs from getting to her. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when Dad told me this.

Oh, the stories my parents could tell...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Xallanthia on January 09, 2012, 02:48:35 PM
It really annoys me in movies like that when they get basic sailing things wrong.  Like in the first movie when they're running from the Pearl, and Gibbs says, "Hands aloft to loose t'gallants!  With this wind dead astern, she'll carry every sail she's got!" (emphasis mine).  If the wind is dead astern, that is to say directly behind a square-rigged ship (like both the Pearl and the Interceptor), the wind will all go into the rearmost sails and none reaches the ones in front.  The fastest way to sail with the wind dead astern is some combination of sails on the main and foremasts (the exact combination depends on the ship).  Even better is to turn slightly so that the wind is hitting you about 1/4 of the way up the ship (halfway between the middle and the stern).  THIS configuration allows every sail to be set.  It's called "Reaching" and is the fastest point of sail for a square-rigged ship.

OT, but not many people in the world know what a t'gallant is, much less how to use one effectively. Do you sail tall ships? (I was just down at the harbor picking my son up after a day sail on a brigantine.)

Alas no, just a bit of a Napoleonic Navy nerd with a tiny bit of sailing experience (9 days on a pungy schooner replica (http://www.livingclassrooms.org/Facilities/LadyMD.html), from Salem MA to Baltimore, as part of a camp I went to in high school).  Lots of people read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin novels and glaze over/skim the sailing parts.  I drew diagrams to make sure I understood each engagement, in cases where I couldn't just visualize it.

I would love to do more sailing (and learn more about it) but I've never really lived in an area where it was easy to do.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Miss Misha on January 09, 2012, 06:04:05 PM
I had one of these exchanges while making a holiday return to a brick-and-mortar store with an online order.  FTR, the return of the online order to the store was a-OK under the store's policies. 

Me:  I want to return of this widget which I ordered online.  Here's a print out of my order confirmation.
Clerk:  OK. 
She starts to process return.  I notice that the price on the register is not the price I paid.
Me:  Excuse me, I paid $18.99 and the refund amount is showing $12.99. 
Clerk:  Oh.  Those are on clearance now and you don't have a reciept.
Me:  I ordered online and I have an order confirmation which lists the price right here.
Clerk:  But you don't have a reciept.
Me:  I ordered online.  The order confirmation email *is* my receipt.
Clerk:  But it's not a store receipt.  I can't give you that price as a refund.
Me:  (noticing a trainee designation on her name badge)  Can you please call over your manager and ask her?
The clerk calls the manager over.  Luckily they weren't busy so I wasn't holding up the line.

Clerk:  She wants to return these widgets, but they're on clearance now.  She doesn't have a receipt.
Me:  I ordered them online and I have the order confirmation print out here. 
The manager nods, glances at the order confirmation and says:  Let me look. 
She turns to clerk and says:  I'll process this.  She should get $18.99 back, not $12.99.
Clerk:  How can you  do that?  She doesn't have a receipt.  Are you going to override?  My drawer will be off!
Manager:  She has an order confirmation from her online order.
Clerk:  But that's not a receipt!
At this point another customer walked up to be rung out.
Manager to Clerk:  Void the refund and help this customer.  I'll do the refund over here.

Manager ran through the refund without further incident.  Sounds like a training moment if there ever was one!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Jaelle on January 09, 2012, 07:26:09 PM
Heh. I do my newspaper's entertainment listings (bar bands and local theater groups, mostly). The once-a-week listing runs Fridays. The deadline for getting things in the following week was the Tuesday before. (So, if you had something to run Jan. 13, you needed it in by Jan. 10, and so forth.)

I recently had to deal with a highly irate bar owner whose listings were not making it into the paper. She was sending them in on time! They were in by deadline! Couldn't we do anything right?

Thing was, she was sending listings for Thursday in by the Tuesday deadline. So by the time the item would have run in the paper, the event had been over for a day. I tried numerous times to explain this -- that she would have to have them in by the Tuesday before for it to be useful to her bar -- but she just got very agitated and upset that I would "make her have hers in so EARLY" when no one else had to.  ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: magician5 on January 09, 2012, 08:30:53 PM

From my coworker: Many rappers and former presidents are members of the illuminati, a secret devil-worshipping sect of the masons.
Apparently she learned this over the weekend and is intent on sharing it with everyone in the office. Most of us have learned to smile and nod at this coworker, but the poor woman in front of me is actually trying to argue with this nonsense. I just put in my earbuds – no music, just earbuds – and pretend the stupid doesn’t hurt so much. It burns me up that this same person talks to everyone as if they have the IQ of lawn furniture.
 :(

Go ahead! Convince her that there are no "secret illuminati masters of the world!

That's exactly what they want you to believe!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hjaye on January 09, 2012, 08:55:21 PM
Years ago I worked for an Armored Car company, I was a crew chief of a three man crew on a truck that mainly did large pickups from banks around town.  There was one bank I went to every day to pick up change orders.  There were usually about thirty to forty separate change orders.  I had a problem picking up the change orders and making a delivery deadline since the change orders were not ready until 11:00am, and I had to be downtown to make a daily delivery by 11:30am. I did have to go to the bank where I picked up the change orders to make a delivery every day, but typically I was there at 10:45, once I left I would go directly downtown and to make my 11:30 deadline.

My manager told me to leave the change orders for the regular city route that went by there every day to make sure I would not be late for my 11:30am delivery deadline.  The only problem was he failed to tell the city route that they would be picking up the change orders.

I got to the bank the next morning and made my delivery.  The person who worked in the fault told me it would be about ten minutes before the change orders were ready.  I informed him I would not be picking them and that the city route would be picking them when they got there. Needless to say the city route wasn't too pleased.  The bank employee told the city route I had been there, but had refused to wait and told him to give the change orders to the city route.

The dispatcher called all the routes every morning to get an ETA of their arrival back at the terminal for what we called the noon turn around.  When they got to the city route, the driver stated they would be a little later that morning because, as he put it "some other route refused to pick up the change orders, so it set them behind when they had to pick them up"

I knew the city route driver was upset, and when he got back to the terminal, I went up to him to explain exactly what was going on.

Me: Hey Doug, I know you weren't expecting to pick up the change orders, and I'm sorry you got stuck with them, Mike told me not to take them since it's too close a call for me to pick them up and then make my 11:30 drop.

Doug: You REFUSED to pick up the change orders and we got stuck with them!!

Me: yes I did refuse to pick them up, I just explained why.

Doug: Don't lie to me, I know you were there, and you refused to take them.

Me: I'm not lying Doug, I'm agreeing with you, you're right, I did refuse to pick them up.

Doug: Don't try to deny it, you told them to give me the change orders.

Me: Doug, do you hear the words coming out of my mouth?  I'm not denying it, I did tell them I wasn't going to take the change orders and to give them to you.
Doug: Quit lying, I know what you did!!

(Now I'm starting to get irritated)
Me: Doug, are you listening to me at all?? I did indeed refuse to take the change orders, I'm going to refuse to take them tomorrow, and I'm going to refuse to take them the day after that, I'm going to refuse them anytime they try to give them to me.  Until such time I'm told differently, I'm never going to pick them up again.

Doug: I don't care what you say, I know you refused them, nothing you say is going to make me believe otherwise.

Me: Talk to Mike if you have a problem with it.

It was the most surreal conversation I've ever had with someone.  I can understand him being upset, I can see him arguing with the reason behind why I wasn't taking them, but he just zeroed in on a belief that I was somehow denying what I was admitting to.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: onikenbai on January 09, 2012, 11:28:08 PM
While living in Japan I often ended up in long arguments with locals over why they were unable to converse with me.  Usually along this format:

Me:  Excuse me, where is the xxx? (completely in Japanese)
Local:  I don't speak English, I can't help you (completely in Japanese)
Me:  That's ok, I speak Japanese just fine thanks.  Now, do I go straight and then left to get to xxx or do I go right? (completely in Japanese)
Local:  No really, I can't help you.  I'm useless in English. (completely in Japanese)
Me:  Don't worry about your English, it's really not a problem.  Now is it left or right?  I have to get there by 4:00 and I don't have a lot of time to get lost. (completely in Japanese)
Local:  How many times do I have to tell you I don't speak English! (completely in Japanese)

Continue in a circle until somebody gets frustrated and stomps off.  It is a wide held belief in Japan that foreigners cannot learn Japanese and many stick to this idea, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.  Some days I just wanted to smack my head on a wall.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on January 09, 2012, 11:37:07 PM
It reminds me of a bit from an RPG that I once played, explaining how the East and West differ culturally.  A Western man is traveling through Japan and comes across a small inn.  He asks the innkeeper if he can stay, and the following ensues:

Man: [In rapid, fluent Japanese]  Hello, I was hoping I could rent a room for the night.
Innkeep: [In broken English] You no stay here, must speak Japanese to stay here!
Man:  [Still in perfect Japanese]  I've been speaking Japanese all my life.  Please, I need a place to stay for the night, I'll be gone by morning.
Innkeep:  [In slow, deliberate Japanese]  You cannot stay here.  We only eat raw fish.  Westerners cannot eat raw fish.  You cannot stay here!
Man:  [Still speaking in rapid Japanese]  On the contrary, I love raw fish.  I've been eating it for as long as I can remember.  Please rent me a room.
Innkeep:  [Also now speaking in rapid Japanese]  We bathe together.  Westerners cannot bathe in front of others.  You cannot stay here!
Man:  [Still in Japanese]  I'm well used to bathing with others.  I think half of Japan has seen me naked.  Please, I need a room.
Innkeep:  You can not stay here!
Man:  WHY can't I stay here?!
Innkeep:  [Slamming the door]  Because you don't speak Japanese!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: crella on January 10, 2012, 04:31:56 AM
While living in Japan I often ended up in long arguments with locals over why they were unable to converse with me.  Usually along this format:

Me:  Excuse me, where is the xxx? (completely in Japanese)
Local:  I don't speak English, I can't help you (completely in Japanese)
Me:  That's ok, I speak Japanese just fine thanks.  Now, do I go straight and then left to get to xxx or do I go right? (completely in Japanese)
Local:  No really, I can't help you.  I'm useless in English. (completely in Japanese)
Me:  Don't worry about your English, it's really not a problem.  Now is it left or right?  I have to get there by 4:00 and I don't have a lot of time to get lost. (completely in Japanese)
Local:  How many times do I have to tell you I don't speak English! (completely in Japanese)
Continue in a circle until somebody gets frustrated and stomps off.  It is a wide held belief in Japan that foreigners cannot learn Japanese and many stick to this idea, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.  Some days I just wanted to smack my head on a wall.


Me too! It's unreal when it happens!

'Excuse me, where's the laundry soap?' (Sentaku sekken ha doko desu ka?)
'No English'
'Sentaku sekken ha doko desu ka?'
'No English'
I got around it by apologizing 'Oh I'm so sorry (Ah! sumimasen deshita!) Sentaku sekken ha doko desu ka?'
Then they answered me!

I found that the fastest, to just say 'Ah, gomen nasai!' and re-ask my question  ;D

Freaky, no matter how many times it happens...


Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: cabbageweevil on January 10, 2012, 05:19:47 AM
It really annoys me in movies like that when they get basic sailing things wrong.  Like in the first movie when they're running from the Pearl, and Gibbs says, "Hands aloft to loose t'gallants!  With this wind dead astern, she'll carry every sail she's got!" (emphasis mine).  If the wind is dead astern, that is to say directly behind a square-rigged ship (like both the Pearl and the Interceptor), the wind will all go into the rearmost sails and none reaches the ones in front.  The fastest way to sail with the wind dead astern is some combination of sails on the main and foremasts (the exact combination depends on the ship).  Even better is to turn slightly so that the wind is hitting you about 1/4 of the way up the ship (halfway between the middle and the stern).  THIS configuration allows every sail to be set.  It's called "Reaching" and is the fastest point of sail for a square-rigged ship.

OT, but not many people in the world know what a t'gallant is, much less how to use one effectively. Do you sail tall ships? (I was just down at the harbor picking my son up after a day sail on a brigantine.)

Alas no, just a bit of a Napoleonic Navy nerd with a tiny bit of sailing experience (9 days on a pungy schooner replica (http://www.livingclassrooms.org/Facilities/LadyMD.html), from Salem MA to Baltimore, as part of a camp I went to in high school).  Lots of people read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin novels and glaze over/skim the sailing parts.  I drew diagrams to make sure I understood each engagement, in cases where I couldn't just visualize it.

I would love to do more sailing (and learn more about it) but I've never really lived in an area where it was easy to do.
Re O'Brian: will admit that I do as above. Enjoy the character interplay / historical aspects, but sailing technicalities are totally opaque to me, and to be honest, I'm not interested enough to learn more.

"What makes sailing vessels go" tends to entail so much complex and esoteric stuff -- to an outsider, gibberish which might or might not be for real -- that parodies of same, have been a reliable source of humour probably ever since humans first devised sailing -- a la "we luffed the first and second larboard bonkwratches and then counter-mizzened the scrizing-helves, with all plain sail in the bilges," etc.

There's a bit I liked in one of O'Brian's novels, where on one mission, the "Surprise" has a passenger -- a rather solemn and pompous academic from one of the great universities, brought along to do something in the diplomatic line IIRC.  Some of the junior officers, I think (probably not a thing Aubrey would do unless he were in an exceptionally silly mood) have fun with spouting fake nautical jargon, as above, when in the learned professor's company.  L.P., avid for knowledge of all kinds, earnestly tries to understand what they're on about, and asks many questions: he gets highly miffed when he discovers that he is the victim of a wind-up.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hobish on January 10, 2012, 09:12:15 AM

From my coworker: Many rappers and former presidents are members of the illuminati, a secret devil-worshipping sect of the masons.
Apparently she learned this over the weekend and is intent on sharing it with everyone in the office. Most of us have learned to smile and nod at this coworker, but the poor woman in front of me is actually trying to argue with this nonsense. I just put in my earbuds – no music, just earbuds – and pretend the stupid doesn’t hurt so much. It burns me up that this same person talks to everyone as if they have the IQ of lawn furniture.
 :(

Go ahead! Convince her that there are no "secret illuminati masters of the world!

That's exactly what they want you to believe!

My first question would actually be, if they’re so secret how come everyone knows about them?  ;D
But I have learned to just not engage.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Xallanthia on January 10, 2012, 09:22:07 AM
Re O'Brian: will admit that I do as above. Enjoy the character interplay / historical aspects, but sailing technicalities are totally opaque to me, and to be honest, I'm not interested enough to learn more.

There's a bit I liked in one of O'Brian's novels, where on one mission, the "Surprise" has a passenger -- a rather solemn and pompous academic from one of the great universities, brought along to do something in the diplomatic line IIRC.  Some of the junior officers, I think (probably not a thing Aubrey would do unless he were in an exceptionally silly mood) have fun with spouting fake nautical jargon, as above, when in the learned professor's company.  L.P., avid for knowledge of all kinds, earnestly tries to understand what they're on about, and asks many questions: he gets highly miffed when he discovers that he is the victim of a wind-up.

They do it to Stephen, but Jack makes them stop, and Stephen is near to hopeless anyway (I love him trying to explain to others).  They do it to Martin all the danged time.  I believe they also do it to Stephen's Jewish assistant/diplomacy parter, Jacob, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: cabbageweevil on January 10, 2012, 11:09:17 AM
Yes, I love Stephen -- awesomely intelligent guy, but in a highly "focused" kind of way.  Ship-handling and everything about ships is to him totally "black magic", and always will be.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: FlyingBaconMouse on January 10, 2012, 12:09:25 PM
I had one of these exchanges while making a holiday return to a brick-and-mortar store with an online order.

This was actually the source of one of these exchanges with my mom over Christmas. We were talking about something houseware-related (I can't remember exactly—for the post, let's say bedspreads), and I mentioned that I'd been thinking about ordering an item online...

Me: On the other hand, they have a brick-and-mortar store at the mall in Richmond; I can just check on my way home.

Mom: Brick and mortar?

Me: Yeah. You know, as opposed to an online store.

Mom: So they sell bricks and mortar...and bedspreads?

Me: No!

It took about five rounds of this to convince her that no one was selling bricks and mortar (well, Home Depot, but they are not relevant here  ;D) with the item I liked.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Twik on January 10, 2012, 12:15:27 PM

From my coworker: Many rappers and former presidents are members of the illuminati,...

Man, I'd be interested in the conversation at THOSE parties!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Ferrets on January 10, 2012, 01:28:37 PM
Yes, I love Stephen -- awesomely intelligent guy, but in a highly "focused" kind of way.  Ship-handling and everything about ships is to him totally "black magic", and always will be.

"Clearly something terribly nautical and fascinating just happened…I am at a loss. "

Oh, Stephen. Bless you. ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sirius on January 10, 2012, 03:43:48 PM
I was the one making Mr. Sirius' brain hurt last night.

I was cooking hamburgers, and yelled down the hallway, "Do you want chocolate on your hamburger?"  I actually meant cheese, but what came out was "chocolate."  He started laughing and said, "I'll take cheese but hold the chocolate!"

(I must have been thinking about dessert.  It was chocolate.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hollasa on January 10, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
Regarding suspension of disbelief and issues thereof in movies, recently read a blog post about that:
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2011/12/11/the-flying-snowman/

Quote
“When my daughter was much younger, my wife was reading to her from a picture book about a snowman who came to life and befriended a young boy, and on each page they would do a particular activity: build a snow fort, slide down a hill, enjoy a bowl of soup and so on. The last three pages had the snowman walking, then running, and then flying. At which point my wife got an unhappy look on her face and said ‘A flying snowman? That’s just ridiculous!’

“To which I said: ‘So you can accept a snowman eating hot soup, but not flying?’ Because, you know, if you can accept the former (not to mention the entire initial premise of a snowman coming to life), I’m not sure how the snowman flying became qualitatively more ridiculous.

“These days, I call the thing in a fantasy or science fiction work which throws out your suspension of disbelief a ‘Flying Snowman.’ And when someone encounters a Flying Snowman, and tells me about it, I ask them why it’s this particular thing that causes them problems when so many other things of equal ridiculousness fly under their radar.

Ooh, and he did a column about it too:
http://www.filmcritic.com/features/2011/12/flying-snowmen-in-science-fiction-films/

And because I recall there was a mention of red shirts in this post, here's the author's book Redshirt:
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/10/cover-reveal-for-john-scalzis-redshirts
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mbbored on January 10, 2012, 10:34:19 PM
I work in a 4 story building that until a year ago had a different department on every floor. Then a new department, the Geeks, moved in (mine) and we got split up between the different floors. The office and conference room I share with 4 other people is the only one from my department on the first floor. Everybody else on the first floor is in the Hard-Core department.

Each floor has one break room. I've been using this break room everyday for the past few months to store my lunch, then heat it up, and finally wash my dishes at the end of the day. During this time I've run into several Hard Core employees, including their department head, all of whom were nice and if they were sharing a treat, insisted I take some. Today, I went into heat up my lunch and have the following interaction with a Hard Core person I've never met.

Hard Core: Where did you come from?
Me: Excuse me?
Hard Core: You heard me. What are you doing in here?
Me: Heating up leftovers?
Hard Core: But what are you doing in HERE? The Hard Core break room?
Me: Actually, it's the first floor break room, not just the Hard Core break room.
Hard Core: Yes, which makes it the Hard Core break room.
Me: But I work on the first floor, too.
Hard Core: But you're not Hard Core.
Me: You're right, I'm not. I'm a member of the Geek office around the corner.
Hard Core: If you're a Geek, you need to use the Geek break room.
Me: There is no Geek break room. There's break rooms for each floor and I work on this floor.
Hard Core: You can't work on this floor, you're not Hard Core.
Me: Whatever you say.
Hard Core: And I better not ever see you in here again!

Such a charming welcome from a member of the same organization. The organization which pays for the microwaves and refrigerators, not the department. I can't wait until Miss Hard Core's computer breaks and she has to approach a Geek.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: gramma dishes on January 10, 2012, 10:39:09 PM

Hard Core: You can't work on this floor, you're not Hard Core.
Me: Whatever you say.
Hard Core: And I better not ever see you in here again!


Am I on the fast track to Ehell for admitting that I hope she DOES see you in there again?  I'm so curious as to how that would all work out!  Maybe next time you should bring some more Geeks with you to the break room -- you know, for safety?   >:D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on January 10, 2012, 10:45:16 PM

Hard Core: You can't work on this floor, you're not Hard Core.
Me: Whatever you say.
Hard Core: And I better not ever see you in here again!


Am I on the fast track to Ehell for admitting that I hope she DOES see you in there again?  I'm so curious as to how that would all work out!  Maybe next time you should bring some more Geeks with you to the break room -- you know, for safety?   >:D
I'm so picturing the two groups (Hard Core and Geeks) circling each other, sizing each other up, snapping their fingers, just before mbbored and Hard Core here whip out staplers and go into a low crouch in anticipation of the gang fight...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Otterpop on January 10, 2012, 10:59:20 PM
Ha!  I dare you to heat up your Easy Mac N' Cheese in here again.  I'll spork you but good!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: TomOBedlam on January 10, 2012, 11:00:13 PM
I'm so picturing the two groups (Hard Core and Geeks) circling each other, sizing each other up, snapping their fingers, just before mbbored and Hard Core here whip out staplers and go into a low crouch in anticipation of the gang fight...

When you're a Geek,
You're a Geek all the way.
From your first CPU
to your last hacking day...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: gramma dishes on January 10, 2012, 11:07:07 PM
I'm so picturing the two groups (Hard Core and Geeks) circling each other, sizing each other up, snapping their fingers, just before mbbored and Hard Core here whip out staplers and go into a low crouch in anticipation of the gang fight...

When you're a Geek,
You're a Geek all the way.
From your first CPU
to your last hacking day...

LOL!!  Updated version of West Side Story?   ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Softly Spoken on January 10, 2012, 11:11:24 PM

Hard Core: You can't work on this floor, you're not Hard Core.
Me: Whatever you say.
Hard Core: And I better not ever see you in here again!


Am I on the fast track to Ehell for admitting that I hope she DOES see you in there again?  I'm so curious as to how that would all work out!  Maybe next time you should bring some more Geeks with you to the break room -- you know, for safety?   >:D
I'm so picturing the two groups (Hard Core and Geeks) circling each other, sizing each other up, snapping their fingers, just before mbbored and Hard Core here whip out staplers and go into a low crouch in anticipation of the gang fight...
Awww someone beat me to it...just have to add some more lines then  ;D
*humming West Side Story's When You're A Jet*
                  When you're a Geek you're a Geek all the way
                  From your first CPU to your last hackin' day
                  When you're a Geek you can do what you can
                  Your coworkers all know you're a decent (wo)man
                  You're always online - you're never disconnected
                  Just let Hard Core whine - she got what you expected
                  Not virus protected!
                  Here come the Geeks yeah and we're not elite
                  And we never will brag about Hard Core defeat
                  'Cause we know the -first floors - where - we all - meeeeet....Yeah!
*With apologies to composer Leonard Bernstein and lyricist Stephen Sondheim!  ;)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: violinp on January 10, 2012, 11:16:20 PM

Hard Core: You can't work on this floor, you're not Hard Core.
Me: Whatever you say.
Hard Core: And I better not ever see you in here again!


Am I on the fast track to Ehell for admitting that I hope she DOES see you in there again?  I'm so curious as to how that would all work out!  Maybe next time you should bring some more Geeks with you to the break room -- you know, for safety?   >:D
I'm so picturing the two groups (Hard Core and Geeks) circling each other, sizing each other up, snapping their fingers, just before mbbored and Hard Core here whip out staplers and go into a low crouch in anticipation of the gang fight...
Awww someone beat me to it...just have to add some more lines then  ;D
*humming West Side Story's When You're A Jet*
                  When you're a Geek you're a Geek all the way
                  From your first CPU to your last hackin' day
                  When you're a Geek you can do what you can
                  Your coworkers all know you're a decent (wo)man
                  You're always online - you're never disconnected
                  Just let Hard Core whine - she got what you expected
                  Not virus protected!
                  Here come the Geeks yeah and we're not elite
                  And we never will brag about Hard Core defeat
                  'Cause we know the -first floors - where - we all - meeeeet....Yeah!
*With apologies to composer Leonard Bernstein and lyricist Stephen Sondheim!  ;)

You win.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: gramma dishes on January 10, 2012, 11:19:42 PM
LOL!  We may be very polite and have superb manners, but Ehellions are anything but boring. The creativity flows freely!   ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pretty Mrs Kitty on January 10, 2012, 11:25:06 PM
A post office employee tried to tell me that Alice Springs was a STATE of Australia.
She was quite adament that it was a state and not a town.

I'm sure most people on this site, being from all over the world, are aware Alice Springs is the town in the middle of the Northern Territory.....right up there near Uluru.
NOT a State. Wow.  :o
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on January 11, 2012, 01:24:03 AM
Confession:  I've *never* seen West Side Story.  I just know that scene from cultural osmosis.

(Part of it is that I hate musicals...)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: bigozzy on January 11, 2012, 05:36:18 AM
Had a weird and brain numbing conversation with a student the other day who is very bright in her discipline just not geographically.


I was chatting with a group of students in the cafe and mentioned that a new student would be coming to join the course from Switzerland.

St1: "I would love to visit there, but I can't speak Swedish"

St2: "Ummm, they speak mostly German or French in Switzerland"

St1 "No, they speak mainly Swedish in Scandinavian countries"

It went on for a while with the first student going about fjords and Swedish and so on until I finally came in:

"Do you know Toblerone chocolate"?

"Yes...ohhh" Bright red.

Everyone is allowed to be a bit goofy after a break I guess!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Gyburc on January 11, 2012, 07:49:47 AM
Many years ago, while I was still at university, I decided to take one optional course on a fairly obscure topic. The general arrangement was that students would take one term of lectures for each topic, then contact the lecturer to arrange a series of tutorials during the following term.

ObscureTopic was taught by a lovely gentleman who was the archetypal absent-minded professor. ObscureTopic was so obscure that there were only three of us taking it, and one girl dropped out. So for each weekly lecture for the rest of the term the lecture hall just contained three people - AbsentMindedProf, a male student, and me.

During the vacation, I phoned AbsentMindedProf to arrange the tutorials for the following term as usual. There was a silence on the other end of the line, and then he said:

'Oh. Were you at the lectures?'

 ??? ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: girlysprite on January 11, 2012, 08:42:07 AM
MommyPenguin wrote:

"I'm actually pretty sure that he took AP Physics in high school (like I did) as well as some Physics in high school.  But he's utterly determined that infinity makes all things happen."

Well, if you add just one assumption he could call himself right.  Assume that you turn your hands as you flap, so you generate a tiny bit more downward force on the downswing than upward force on the upswing.  Couple that with "infinitely fast" (in reality it wouldn't take infinite, just absurdly fast) and you're generating downward flow of air so you'd rise like a helicopter.

Virg

This is a late reply, but anyways...

I'm pretty sure some nasty stuff happens with your arms before you can reach that point ;) Also, disregarding that, it might also depend on the motion of your arm. After all, flapping your arms up also creates force pressing you down. Kind of like swimming, the 'reset' motions are executed in a specific way to push you back by the smallest amount possible.
So if you'd be flapping your arms up and down, you would likely stay where you are...and end up in agony because your arms drop off :p
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Virg on January 11, 2012, 09:03:50 AM
girlysprite wrote:

"I'm pretty sure some nasty stuff happens with your arms before you can reach that point"

Well, "infinitely fast" flapping already has us in the realm of the absurd, so I'll just assume that it's not going to turn out like a horror film.

"Also, disregarding that, it might also depend on the motion of your arm. After all, flapping your arms up also creates force pressing you down."

That's the "turn your hands" part of it.  If you turn your hands flat on the downstroke and vertical on the upstroke, you're pushing down a tiny bit harder than pushing up.  That's the differential you can use with the infinitely fast portion.

Or, of course, you could just buy a plane ticket, but that's just infinitely expensive so it's not nearly as humorous.

Virg
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on January 11, 2012, 09:52:59 AM
His example was, hilariously, meant to point out that I couldn't possibly know what could happen if things went to infinity.  Infinite time, infinite space, infinite speed, etc.  Maybe I should have sent him a graph showing that, if x = 1 (for all y), then if y goes to infinity, x is still always going to = 1.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: 2littlemonkeys on January 11, 2012, 10:20:10 AM
I just recalled one from college.  I went to school in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and there are a lot of very small towns in that area.  Our Resident Adviser (RA) was from one of these small towns.  I grew up several hours away in the mid part of the Lower Peninsula.  For background purposes, the two peninsulas are divided by the Straits of Mackinac and people got tired of swimming, so they built a suspension bridge to link the two peninsulas back in the '50s.

One Thanksgiving, many of us making preparations to go home for the weekend.  RA asked me how long it usually took me to get home.  I told her between 6-8 hours, depending on the weather and road conditions.

RA: "Really? I would have thought it took longer.  I mean, you have to loop all the way around the lake!"

Me: "What?  No, I just take The Bridge."

RA: "What bridge?"

Me: (???)  The Bridge.  The Mackinac Bridge. 

RA:  Oh!  When did they build that?

She had never really gone anywhere outside of her county (which was near Wisconsin) and had absolutely no idea there was a bridge.  She thought everyone just drove around.


P-p-p-penguin, I can't tell you how many times DH would call me on the home phone line and then ask me where I was.   ::)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: suzieQ on January 11, 2012, 10:50:49 AM
This thread came to mind as I watched Johnny Galecki on Conan's show last night. He was telling tales on his younger brother who is, according to Johnny, a mechanical genius who is clueless about everything else. He said his brother once called him and asked, "How old am I?" Johnny said, "You're 27." The brother muttered and hung up. Apparently, he'd made a bet on hisage and lost.

Ah that is so me! I lose track of my age frequently. I do know I'm 42 now, but only because its so close to that milestone of 40. I was once asked my age when I was 25 and I guessed I was 27. I just really don't care how old I am.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BuffaloFang on January 11, 2012, 11:00:38 AM
Conversation with a coworker.  Keep in mind, he supposedly made it through college.

Me: "You need to design this to be 5 foot by 6 foot."
Him: "okay"  (Goes away, comes back about 10 minutes later) "Illustrator doesn't have options in feet. It only has pixels and inches and stuff."
Me: "....so convert the feet to inches."
Him: "How do I do that?"
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: suzieQ on January 11, 2012, 11:12:04 AM
While living in Japan I often ended up in long arguments with locals over why they were unable to converse with me.  Usually along this format:

Me:  Excuse me, where is the xxx? (completely in Japanese)
Local:  I don't speak English, I can't help you (completely in Japanese)
Me:  That's ok, I speak Japanese just fine thanks.  Now, do I go straight and then left to get to xxx or do I go right? (completely in Japanese)
Local:  No really, I can't help you.  I'm useless in English. (completely in Japanese)
Me:  Don't worry about your English, it's really not a problem.  Now is it left or right?  I have to get there by 4:00 and I don't have a lot of time to get lost. (completely in Japanese)
Local:  How many times do I have to tell you I don't speak English! (completely in Japanese)

Continue in a circle until somebody gets frustrated and stomps off.  It is a wide held belief in Japan that foreigners cannot learn Japanese and many stick to this idea, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.  Some days I just wanted to smack my head on a wall.

How about "that's OK I have this great app on my phone that will translate what you say into English so I can understand it. Just give me the directions in Japanese and my phone will translate." ? Crazy, but so is the person you are dealing with.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: gramma dishes on January 11, 2012, 11:17:38 AM
How about a huge smile and saying (in Japanese) "I don't speak English either!"

Honestly, I have a sneaking suspicion that he understood you perfectly and was just being stubbornly nationalistic.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hermanne on January 11, 2012, 11:20:00 AM
I just recalled one from college.  I went to school in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and there are a lot of very small towns in that area.  Our Resident Adviser (RA) was from one of these small towns.  I grew up several hours away in the mid part of the Lower Peninsula.  For background purposes, the two peninsulas are divided by the Straits of Mackinac and people got tired of swimming, so they built a suspension bridge to link the two peninsulas back in the '50s.

One Thanksgiving, many of us making preparations to go home for the weekend.  RA asked me how long it usually took me to get home.  I told her between 6-8 hours, depending on the weather and road conditions.

RA: "Really? I would have thought it took longer.  I mean, you have to loop all the way around the lake!"

Me: "What?  No, I just take The Bridge."

RA: "What bridge?"

Me: (???)  The Bridge.  The Mackinac Bridge. 

RA:  Oh!  When did they build that?

She had never really gone anywhere outside of her county (which was near Wisconsin) and had absolutely no idea there was a bridge.  She thought everyone just drove around.


Well, depending where you were going in Michigan, driving around the lake may be shorter.
(Says hermanne, whose parents drove through Canada to get to up-state New York.)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 11, 2012, 11:26:00 AM
This thread came to mind as I watched Johnny Galecki on Conan's show last night. He was telling tales on his younger brother who is, according to Johnny, a mechanical genius who is clueless about everything else. He said his brother once called him and asked, "How old am I?" Johnny said, "You're 27." The brother muttered and hung up. Apparently, he'd made a bet on hisage and lost.

Ah that is so me! I lose track of my age frequently. I do know I'm 42 now, but only because its so close to that milestone of 40. I was once asked my age when I was 25 and I guessed I was 27. I just really don't care how old I am.

Sometimes I have to do the math when I am asked my age.  Hopefully I won't lose the few math skillz I have as I get older.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on January 11, 2012, 12:24:38 PM
This thread came to mind as I watched Johnny Galecki on Conan's show last night. He was telling tales on his younger brother who is, according to Johnny, a mechanical genius who is clueless about everything else. He said his brother once called him and asked, "How old am I?" Johnny said, "You're 27." The brother muttered and hung up. Apparently, he'd made a bet on hisage and lost.

Ah that is so me! I lose track of my age frequently. I do know I'm 42 now, but only because its so close to that milestone of 40. I was once asked my age when I was 25 and I guessed I was 27. I just really don't care how old I am.

Sometimes I have to do the math when I am asked my age.  Hopefully I won't lose the few math skillz I have as I get older.
How old I am is never in doubt.  However, I never know the current date.  If I'm ever in an accident where they try to check for concussion by asking me the date, I'm screwed.  Month and year, yes.  Day of the week, probably.  Date, no. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: gramma dishes on January 11, 2012, 12:34:14 PM
^^^   LOL!

You post reminded me of a TV program I saw several years ago.  The documentary style program's subject was basically how they were trying to test for Alzheimer's (or other serious memory loss). 

In this one place, sort of a cross between independent living type housing and a group home, they kept asking these poor little old ladies and gentlemen what day of the week it was.  Most of them didn't know although they seemed quite sharp otherwise, but a couple of them 'guessed' correctly. 

The two that guessed correctly were asked how they knew it was Wednesday.  They both said because "Such And Such" TV program is on Tuesday nights and I watched that last night, so today must be Wednesday."

None of the others knew because to them, every single day was like the one before had been and tomorrow would be.  Exactly the same schedule from the moment they woke up in the morning until they retired for the night.  So what difference did it make? 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: 2littlemonkeys on January 11, 2012, 01:00:41 PM
I just recalled one from college.  I went to school in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and there are a lot of very small towns in that area.  Our Resident Adviser (RA) was from one of these small towns.  I grew up several hours away in the mid part of the Lower Peninsula.  For background purposes, the two peninsulas are divided by the Straits of Mackinac and people got tired of swimming, so they built a suspension bridge to link the two peninsulas back in the '50s.

One Thanksgiving, many of us making preparations to go home for the weekend.  RA asked me how long it usually took me to get home.  I told her between 6-8 hours, depending on the weather and road conditions.

RA: "Really? I would have thought it took longer.  I mean, you have to loop all the way around the lake!"

Me: "What?  No, I just take The Bridge."

RA: "What bridge?"

Me: (???)  The Bridge.  The Mackinac Bridge. 

RA:  Oh!  When did they build that?

She had never really gone anywhere outside of her county (which was near Wisconsin) and had absolutely no idea there was a bridge.  She thought everyone just drove around.


Well, depending where you were going in Michigan, driving around the lake may be shorter.
(Says hermanne, whose parents drove through Canada to get to up-state New York.)

Not where I lived (which was 1.5 hours north of Lansing. And we did that to get to Niagra Falls, LOL). 

I lived right in the middle of the lower peninsula.  I live in Chicago now and it takes a good 8 hours to get to my school from Chicago.  My parents are 3-5 hours away from me in Michigan (providing there aren't any lake effect snow issues going around the southern end of the lake).  So let's say the weather and roads were rocking and rolling, it would have taken me 11-13 hours to get home that way.  I was also on a major express way a lot faster going my way.  I would have been on single lane county roads for a lot longer going around the lake. 



Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MommyPenguin on January 11, 2012, 01:31:18 PM
^^^   LOL!

You post reminded me of a TV program I saw several years ago.  The documentary style program's subject was basically how they were trying to test for Alzheimer's (or other serious memory loss). 

In this one place, sort of a cross between independent living type housing and a group home, they kept asking these poor little old ladies and gentlemen what day of the week it was.  Most of them didn't know although they seemed quite sharp otherwise, but a couple of them 'guessed' correctly. 

The two that guessed correctly were asked how they knew it was Wednesday.  They both said because "Such And Such" TV program is on Tuesday nights and I watched that last night, so today must be Wednesday."

None of the others knew because to them, every single day was like the one before had been and tomorrow would be.  Exactly the same schedule from the moment they woke up in the morning until they retired for the night.  So what difference did it make?

I'm the same way sometimes.  We homeschool, so we have a set routine that is basically the same almost every day of the week.  During "off" times when we don't have any activities, it's really hard to keep track of what day it is!  It doesn't help that, while my curriculum is schedule as a 5-day week, I don't always do Monday's work on Monday, if we miss a day or something, so that can throw me off.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Virg on January 11, 2012, 01:38:25 PM
gramma dishes wrote:

"Honestly, I have a sneaking suspicion that he understood you perfectly and was just being stubbornly nationalistic."

I suspect that he understood what she was saying as well, but I'll take a slightly different tack on his reasoning.  I've found that Japanese concepts of politeness can be very, very different from the things Westerners are familiar with, so he may have been trying to be polite rather than stubborn.  For example, Reader's Digest did a "rudeness test" in cities around the world at one time, and their choice of one of the tests bit them when they did it in Tokyo.  The test was to see how many people would help if someone dropped a stack of papers they were holding.  In Tokyo, nobody offered to help at all, leading the editors to grade them rude.  But as it turns out, they were being very polite, in the Japanese way.  In Japan, "saving face" (that is, avoiding embarassment) is considered very important, and when someone drops a stack of papers, it's considered very polite to completely ignore them until they can gather up the mess, thereby avoiding the embarassment of others noticing their clumsiness.  That all said, it wouldn't surprise me to find that it's considered rude to speak Japanese to someone who obviously speaks another native language, and he was simply informing them that he was unable to converse with them in their native language while trying to avoid the rudeness of speaking Japanese to a non-native.  The fact that more than one other poster has related a similar story makes me think that such a thing could be reasonable.

Virg

edited to add:  I found an article written by a New Zealander about how he'd like Japanese people to treat him and other foreigners.  Note that one of the things he suggests is for Japanese people to "speak Japanese first", which would seem to indicate that the problem is widespread enough to comment on it.

http://poligo.com/poligo-groups/culture-club/2011/09/08/how-to-talk-to-foreigners-in-japan (http://poligo.com/poligo-groups/culture-club/2011/09/08/how-to-talk-to-foreigners-in-japan)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: White Dragon on January 11, 2012, 01:41:54 PM
I am trying to fill out and submit a financial form on behalf of a client.

Rather than get it wrong, I emailed what I thought was the correct department for guidance.
My questions were (so I believed) very clear and specific.

The response I got was not from the department I'd written to, but rather from the accounting rep who assists my branch.

Her response: (These are taken straight from the emails)
"[Type] requests are to be sent into head office for processing."

My response:
"Which department of head office should I direct it to?
Or is there a particular individual?"

Her response:
"You can direct it to me."

Whaaaa?
So you tell me to send it to "head office" (of a multi-gazillion $ corporation)
I ask for something a bit more specific.
And you say...me.
And *still* don't answer my question >:( >:( >:(

whimper
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Snooks on January 11, 2012, 01:47:10 PM
P-p-p-penguin, I can't tell you how many times DH would call me on the home phone line and then ask me where I was.   ::)

I've done that but I meant it in a "which room are you in?" way because I needed a certain bit of information.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hermanne on January 11, 2012, 02:28:10 PM
I just recalled one from college.  I went to school in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and there are a lot of very small towns in that area.  Our Resident Adviser (RA) was from one of these small towns.  I grew up several hours away in the mid part of the Lower Peninsula.  For background purposes, the two peninsulas are divided by the Straits of Mackinac and people got tired of swimming, so they built a suspension bridge to link the two peninsulas back in the '50s.

One Thanksgiving, many of us making preparations to go home for the weekend.  RA asked me how long it usually took me to get home.  I told her between 6-8 hours, depending on the weather and road conditions.

RA: "Really? I would have thought it took longer.  I mean, you have to loop all the way around the lake!"

Me: "What?  No, I just take The Bridge."

RA: "What bridge?"

Me: (???)  The Bridge.  The Mackinac Bridge. 

RA:  Oh!  When did they build that?

She had never really gone anywhere outside of her county (which was near Wisconsin) and had absolutely no idea there was a bridge.  She thought everyone just drove around.


Well, depending where you were going in Michigan, driving around the lake may be shorter.
(Says hermanne, whose parents drove through Canada to get to up-state New York.)

Not where I lived (which was 1.5 hours north of Lansing. And we did that to get to Niagra Falls, LOL). 

I lived right in the middle of the lower peninsula.  I live in Chicago now and it takes a good 8 hours to get to my school from Chicago.  My parents are 3-5 hours away from me in Michigan (providing there aren't any lake effect snow issues going around the southern end of the lake).  So let's say the weather and roads were rocking and rolling, it would have taken me 11-13 hours to get home that way.  I was also on a major express way a lot faster going my way.  I would have been on single lane county roads for a lot longer going around the lake.

Ithaca? :)

I'm from roughly the same area, between Lansing and Saginaw. And you're right, taking the bridge is faster.

I'm surprised the RA didn't know about the bridge! But I suppose if she never had reason to go to that part of the state...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: 2littlemonkeys on January 11, 2012, 02:59:58 PM
[snip]

Ithaca? :)

I'm from roughly the same area, between Lansing and Saginaw. And you're right, taking the bridge is faster.

I'm surprised the RA didn't know about the bridge! But I suppose if she never had reason to go to that part of the state...

Almost!  Closer to Owasso.  And that's what totally blew my mind.  Even if she's never been there, it was just weird that she didn't even know it existed in the first place. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Outdoor Girl on January 11, 2012, 03:13:13 PM
I'm from Canada and even I know about the Mackinac Bridge.  I've driven up to the Soo through Michigan because the roads are better than going on the Canadian side and it was six of one/half dozen of the other as far as time went when I lived west of Toronto.

Gotta say - that is one scary bridge to drive over!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: dawbs on January 11, 2012, 03:30:07 PM
I'm from Canada and even I know about the Mackinac Bridge.  I've driven up to the Soo through Michigan because the roads are better than going on the Canadian side and it was six of one/half dozen of the other as far as time went when I lived west of Toronto.

Gotta say - that is one scary bridge to drive over!
Try it on a motorcycle some day  :o


Back on topic, I had one this week.
I work for a college.  My job this week involved calling people whose classes had been cancelled and letting them know (this sucks.  99.9% of the students I called were polite but I'm essentially the bearer of bad news--ain't nobody happy when we cancel a class)

Exchange went like this:
Me:  Hi, may I speak with Suzy Q?
Lady (probably Suzy's mom):  She isn't here right now
Me:  This is Dawbs from Whatever College.  Is there a better number to reach her at, or may I leave a message?

Lady:  I can take a message for her

Me:  Can you please let her know that one of her classes has been cancelled?  the number to call with questions is 555-5555.  She should be able to see the details on which classes on *** (our website service--which is how Suzy signed up for classes)

Lady:  Oh, can she take X class instead?  Just sign her up for that one.

Me:  That may be a possibility but Suzy will need to speak to us in order to make any changes

Lady:  Will X class fulfill her requirements for her pre-med program?

Me:  *looking at my computer and realizing there's no way in heck Suzy Q is pre-med.  She's probably majoring in UnderWater FireBombing.  Mom probably hasn't been told*  I'm afraid that I'd need to discuss that with Suzy

Lady:  Oh, you can just put down that I was Suzy

Me:   I'm afraid we will need to speak to Suzy to make any changes to her schedule

Lady:  Oh, all right.  Can you give me her password to *** computer service so I can see her schedule there.

Me:  *blank stare at phone, because 'uh...NO?' seemed rude*

Lady:  Oh, nevermind.

Me:  Thank you, please pass that information on to Suzy Q
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Nora on January 11, 2012, 03:50:42 PM
*grapples for jaw-drop smiley"

(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/jawdrop.gif)

That woman...was not in touch with planet earth.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: darling on January 11, 2012, 04:16:37 PM
I haven't gotten through the whole thread yet, but this one just happened:

Student: "Are you going to be open this weekend."
Me: "No."
Student: "We have printing to do over the weekend for an exhibition."
Me: "We are going to be closed."
Student: "Is there any way you can be open this weekend?"
Me: "No, we do not have employees scheduled to work."
Student: "What if I can get a volunteer?"
Me: "No. We are going to be closed."
Student: "But what if I asked an employee?"
Me: "We are closed. There is no way we are going to be open this weekend."
Student: "But..."

Seriously? Just print this week while we are open! They really just want to wait until the last minute. We are closed all weekend and Monday, and that's it!

My brain hurts.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Diane AKA Traska on January 11, 2012, 04:35:09 PM
I haven't gotten through the whole thread yet, but this one just happened:

Student: "Are you going to be open this weekend."
Me: "No."
Student: "We have printing to do over the weekend for an exhibition."
Me: "We are going to be closed."
Student: "Is there any way you can be open this weekend?"
Me: "No, we do not have employees scheduled to work."
Student: "What if I can get a volunteer?"
Me: "No. We are going to be closed."
Student: "But what if I asked an employee?"
Me: "We are closed. There is no way we are going to be open this weekend."
Student: "But..."

Seriously? Just print this week while we are open! They really just want to wait until the last minute. We are closed all weekend and Monday, and that's it!

My brain hurts.

Although, you sorta kinda invited it, with Me: "No, we do not have employees scheduled to work."

Better to just "No, we are going to be closed."  Rinse, repeat.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: mmmchocolate on January 11, 2012, 04:44:41 PM
Years ago I worked for the health dept and we used to get all kinds of crazy calls.  I remember one in particular-

Caller:  "Can you tell me if lice translate in pools?"

Co worker: " That depends on whether or not they speak English."

Caller:  "Ok, thanks." 



Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on January 11, 2012, 05:15:57 PM
Quote
Years ago I worked for the health dept and we used to get all kinds of crazy calls.  I remember one in particular-

Caller:  "Can you tell me if lice translate in pools?"

Co worker: " That depends on whether or not they speak English."

Caller:  "Ok, thanks."

That one was just a different word used (maybe someone whose first language isn't English).  Why didn't your coworker just answer her correctly?  Your coworker was unnecessarily snarky, it sounds like.  It's clear what the lady was asking.  ???
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: darling on January 11, 2012, 05:34:36 PM
I haven't gotten through the whole thread yet, but this one just happened:

Student: "Are you going to be open this weekend."
Me: "No."
Student: "We have printing to do over the weekend for an exhibition."
Me: "We are going to be closed."
Student: "Is there any way you can be open this weekend?"
Me: "No, we do not have employees scheduled to work."
Student: "What if I can get a volunteer?"
Me: "No. We are going to be closed."
Student: "But what if I asked an employee?"
Me: "We are closed. There is no way we are going to be open this weekend."
Student: "But..."

Seriously? Just print this week while we are open! They really just want to wait until the last minute. We are closed all weekend and Monday, and that's it!

My brain hurts.

Although, you sorta kinda invited it, with Me: "No, we do not have employees scheduled to work."

Better to just "No, we are going to be closed."  Rinse, repeat.

True, but English was not the student's primary language, and I couldn't tell if he really just didn't understand, or if he was just pushing. He was just pushing.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: crella on January 11, 2012, 06:41:17 PM
How about a huge smile and saying (in Japanese) "I don't speak English either!"

Honestly, I have a sneaking suspicion that he understood you perfectly and was just being stubbornly nationalistic.

No, it really happens.  See a foreign face, completely panic, and you get dialogue like that. 'But, but, I don't speak English!'
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kareng57 on January 11, 2012, 07:19:39 PM
I just recalled one from college.  I went to school in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and there are a lot of very small towns in that area.  Our Resident Adviser (RA) was from one of these small towns.  I grew up several hours away in the mid part of the Lower Peninsula.  For background purposes, the two peninsulas are divided by the Straits of Mackinac and people got tired of swimming, so they built a suspension bridge to link the two peninsulas back in the '50s.

One Thanksgiving, many of us making preparations to go home for the weekend.  RA asked me how long it usually took me to get home.  I told her between 6-8 hours, depending on the weather and road conditions.

RA: "Really? I would have thought it took longer.  I mean, you have to loop all the way around the lake!"

Me: "What?  No, I just take The Bridge."

RA: "What bridge?"

Me: (???)  The Bridge.  The Mackinac Bridge. 

RA:  Oh!  When did they build that?

She had never really gone anywhere outside of her county (which was near Wisconsin) and had absolutely no idea there was a bridge.  She thought everyone just drove around.


Well, depending where you were going in Michigan, driving around the lake may be shorter.
(Says hermanne, whose parents drove through Canada to get to up-state New York.)


And before the Trans Canada Highway was built (early 1960s) lots of the secondary highways were pretty bad, and people living in southern regions of the country often travelled through the US.  I remember my Dad talking about taking the highway from Vancouver to the Kootenays in BC (near the Rocky Mountains).  Apparently the buses somehow always made it through, but overall it was a pretty white-knuckle trip...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: KaosP on January 11, 2012, 07:33:41 PM
I have a co-worker who is...how can I describe it...illogical. This conversation was one of my favourites.

It was a couple of years ago, one of those summer days when they're not calling for rain but we get one of those the-heavens-just-opened thundershowers. Co-worker comes rushing into my office.

CW (in an exasperated voice): It's raining!
Me: Yes, that's odd, they weren't calling for it!
CW: This is ridiculous!
Me (thinking, it's not ridiculous, it's RAIN): Yes, very odd.
CW: But how can it be raining? This is ridiculous! My sunroof is open!!
Me:  :o Maybe you should go and close it!
CW: (pauses for a second) Oh! (runs for an umbrella and goes outside to close the sunroof on his car)

I swear, he's got a good heart, but sometimes I wonder if something is disconnected somewhere in his brain processes.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pinky830 on January 11, 2012, 07:56:28 PM
I don't want to sound too critical because people don't necessarily know how things work, but this one...well, it didn't quite make my brain hurt, just sort of seize up for a minute.

Working a weekend ER shift at our animal hospital, I answered the phone since the receptionist was busy. The caller said matter-of-factly, "Yes, I need to bring my dog in for an MRI. How much will it cost?"

::Pinky's brain stops working and falls out of her head::

"Um...we don't do MRIs here. MRI for pets is only done at very large referral centers."

"So you can't do it?"

"No, I'm sorry, the only place in [state] that does is [university teaching hospital]. Is your dog in need of medical attention right now?"

"No, she's just been having seizures and our vet told us the next step is an MRI."

"OK, then, your vet can set up the referral for you on Monday. If she has any distress over the weekend, you're very welcome to bring her in."

So, I don't know if anyone finds that as startling as I did. I make very few referrals for neurologic workups because it's rare that people want to spend the $$. It's been years since I even sent anyone for an MRI. I've definitely never had anyone call looking for one as matter-of-factly as they would for a rabies vaccine. Especially a hospital they've never had any dealings with, at 2:00 on a Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kherbert05 on January 11, 2012, 08:13:05 PM
^^^   LOL!

You post reminded me of a TV program I saw several years ago.  The documentary style program's subject was basically how they were trying to test for Alzheimer's (or other serious memory loss). 

In this one place, sort of a cross between independent living type housing and a group home, they kept asking these poor little old ladies and gentlemen what day of the week it was.  Most of them didn't know although they seemed quite sharp otherwise, but a couple of them 'guessed' correctly. 

The two that guessed correctly were asked how they knew it was Wednesday.  They both said because "Such And Such" TV program is on Tuesday nights and I watched that last night, so today must be Wednesday."

None of the others knew because to them, every single day was like the one before had been and tomorrow would be.  Exactly the same schedule from the moment they woke up in the morning until they retired for the night.  So what difference did it make?

I'm the same way sometimes.  We homeschool, so we have a set routine that is basically the same almost every day of the week.  During "off" times when we don't have any activities, it's really hard to keep track of what day it is!  It doesn't help that, while my curriculum is schedule as a 5-day week, I don't always do Monday's work on Monday, if we miss a day or something, so that can throw me off.

Ok I set alarms for the end of long school holidays. I cut the cord so I stream - so the TV doesn't tell me the day of the week. I tend to get in a natural sleep wake cycle for me. Which is to stay awake for 20 - 24 hours then sleep 10 - so my day kind of wanders around the clock. The first time my BIL called me over a summer and asked me to watch the kids, I said sure - but what is it today, concerned him. He thought something was wrong with me. Sis had to explain that during summer vacations as a kid the only way I knew what day it was is if it was Monday. Because we spent Monday at the library instead of the pool - (pool was shocked on Mondays)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Editeer on January 11, 2012, 08:33:59 PM
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Years ago I worked for the health dept and we used to get all kinds of crazy calls.  I remember one in particular-

Caller:  "Can you tell me if lice translate in pools?"

Co worker: " That depends on whether or not they speak English."

Caller:  "Ok, thanks."

That one was just a different word used (maybe someone whose first language isn't English).  Why didn't your coworker just answer her correctly?  Your coworker was unnecessarily snarky, it sounds like.  It's clear what the lady was asking.  ???


It isn't clear to me. What was she really asking?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: gramma dishes on January 11, 2012, 08:37:15 PM
LOL!  Thank you for asking!  I assumed I was the only one who didn't know so I didn't want to ask.

I kind of think maybe she was asking if lice could be transferred from one person to another in swimming pools, but that's only a guess.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 11, 2012, 08:39:28 PM
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Years ago I worked for the health dept and we used to get all kinds of crazy calls.  I remember one in particular-

Caller:  "Can you tell me if lice translate in pools?"

Co worker: " That depends on whether or not they speak English."

Caller:  "Ok, thanks."

That one was just a different word used (maybe someone whose first language isn't English).  Why didn't your coworker just answer her correctly?  Your coworker was unnecessarily snarky, it sounds like.  It's clear what the lady was asking.  ???


It isn't clear to me. What was she really asking?

I'm not the OP, but I'm guessing that she wanted to know if her child went swimming with a child who has [presumably head] lice, could they catch the lice via the pool water.

Having been through the hell of repeated lice infections with a daughter with long, thick hair (they just looooooove the Australian climate) I can attest that yes, normally rational people do get just that paranoid.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on January 11, 2012, 09:01:26 PM
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I kind of think maybe she was asking if lice could be transferred from one person to another in swimming pools

That's exactly what I read it - and would have answered it. And I don't think it's an unreasonable question. Can they be transferred between people in that way?

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Reika on January 11, 2012, 09:34:27 PM
Much like Dawbs's post earlier, I had a mother call on her adult son's health insurance policy, which is subject all the various confidentiality laws out there in the US. On her 40 year old son. She wanted all sorts of information that I couldn't release without his permission.

The part that blew my mind was when she said "Well, I popped him out, I should be able to get whatever information I want."

After my brain stopped going  ??? :o, I just used a "Toots Special" and kept saying "I'm sorry, ma'am, but due to confidentiality I can't release the information you're asking about."

"You must think I'm stupid."

"No, ma'am, I don't." (I was just really irritated, there was nothing on file giving a hint she could get anything on this. and I wasn't going to get in trouble for a person who won't cut the apron strings.)

"Then why do you keep repeatin' yerself?"

"Because that's the only thing I can say."

"Fine, be a *female dog* like that." *slams the phone down*

I clutch my head in pain from that call.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Amalthea on January 12, 2012, 02:00:41 AM
gramma dishes wrote:

"Honestly, I have a sneaking suspicion that he understood you perfectly and was just being stubbornly nationalistic."

I suspect that he understood what she was saying as well, but I'll take a slightly different tack on his reasoning.  I've found that Japanese concepts of politeness can be very, very different from the things Westerners are familiar with, so he may have been trying to be polite rather than stubborn.  For example, Reader's Digest did a "rudeness test" in cities around the world at one time, and their choice of one of the tests bit them when they did it in Tokyo.  The test was to see how many people would help if someone dropped a stack of papers they were holding.  In Tokyo, nobody offered to help at all, leading the editors to grade them rude.  But as it turns out, they were being very polite, in the Japanese way.  In Japan, "saving face" (that is, avoiding embarassment) is considered very important, and when someone drops a stack of papers, it's considered very polite to completely ignore them until they can gather up the mess, thereby avoiding the embarassment of others noticing their clumsiness.  That all said, it wouldn't surprise me to find that it's considered rude to speak Japanese to someone who obviously speaks another native language, and he was simply informing them that he was unable to converse with them in their native language while trying to avoid the rudeness of speaking Japanese to a non-native.  The fact that more than one other poster has related a similar story makes me think that such a thing could be reasonable.

Virg

edited to add:  I found an article written by a New Zealander about how he'd like Japanese people to treat him and other foreigners.  Note that one of the things he suggests is for Japanese people to "speak Japanese first", which would seem to indicate that the problem is widespread enough to comment on it.

http://poligo.com/poligo-groups/culture-club/2011/09/08/how-to-talk-to-foreigners-in-japan (http://poligo.com/poligo-groups/culture-club/2011/09/08/how-to-talk-to-foreigners-in-japan)

I've actually never run into someone insisting they can't speak English while I'm speaking Japanese to them.  Of course, now that I've said that, it'll probably happen tomorrow.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: cabbageweevil on January 12, 2012, 02:50:23 AM
I just recalled one from college.  I went to school in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and there are a lot of very small towns in that area.  Our Resident Adviser (RA) was from one of these small towns.  I grew up several hours away in the mid part of the Lower Peninsula.  For background purposes, the two peninsulas are divided by the Straits of Mackinac and people got tired of swimming, so they built a suspension bridge to link the two peninsulas back in the '50s.

One Thanksgiving, many of us making preparations to go home for the weekend.  RA asked me how long it usually took me to get home.  I told her between 6-8 hours, depending on the weather and road conditions.

RA: "Really? I would have thought it took longer.  I mean, you have to loop all the way around the lake!"

Me: "What?  No, I just take The Bridge."

RA: "What bridge?"

Me: (???)  The Bridge.  The Mackinac Bridge. 

RA:  Oh!  When did they build that?

She had never really gone anywhere outside of her county (which was near Wisconsin) and had absolutely no idea there was a bridge.  She thought everyone just drove around.


I'm surprised the RA didn't know about the bridge! But I suppose if she never had reason to go to that part of the state...
Joking aside -- wasn't there a vehicle ferry across the straits, before the bridge was built?

It struck me, too, as surprising that the lady had never heard of the bridge -- built as long ago as the 1950s.  But, as said, if the situation had never directly impinged on her life... sometimes, people basically "know what they need to know" -- cf Sherlock Holmes, who could never remember whether the earth revolved round the sun or vice versa, and wasn't bothered about it: that was data he didn't need for his detecting, so he didn't clutter up his brain with it.

Gives rise to thoughts about a rather similar set-up, though on a much smaller scale, in the UK.  For a long time, the lowest-down bridge over the wide River Severn, was at Gloucester.  Further down-river, there were a couple of not-hugely-effective means of getting vehicles across; but often, the least time-consuming option was to drive around via Gloucester -- possibly as much as an 80/90-mile total journey. A suspension bridge, a good way down-river, was opened in 1966; and a second, yet further down, many years later.  2littlemonkeys's story has me wondering whether there might possibly be today, in that area along the Severn, any very stay-at-home and non-news-following citizens, who are unaware of the existence of the suspension bridges.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: crella on January 12, 2012, 03:44:20 AM
gramma dishes wrote:

"Honestly, I have a sneaking suspicion that he understood you perfectly and was just being stubbornly nationalistic."

I suspect that he understood what she was saying as well, but I'll take a slightly different tack on his reasoning.  I've found that Japanese concepts of politeness can be very, very different from the things Westerners are familiar with, so he may have been trying to be polite rather than stubborn.  For example, Reader's Digest did a "rudeness test" in cities around the world at one time, and their choice of one of the tests bit them when they did it in Tokyo.  The test was to see how many people would help if someone dropped a stack of papers they were holding.  In Tokyo, nobody offered to help at all, leading the editors to grade them rude.  But as it turns out, they were being very polite, in the Japanese way.  In Japan, "saving face" (that is, avoiding embarassment) is considered very important, and when someone drops a stack of papers, it's considered very polite to completely ignore them until they can gather up the mess, thereby avoiding the embarassment of others noticing their clumsiness.  That all said, it wouldn't surprise me to find that it's considered rude to speak Japanese to someone who obviously speaks another native language, and he was simply informing them that he was unable to converse with them in their native language while trying to avoid the rudeness of speaking Japanese to a non-native.  The fact that more than one other poster has related a similar story makes me think that such a thing could be reasonable.

Virg

edited to add:  I found an article written by a New Zealander about how he'd like Japanese people to treat him and other foreigners.  Note that one of the things he suggests is for Japanese people to "speak Japanese first", which would seem to indicate that the problem is widespread enough to comment on it.

http://poligo.com/poligo-groups/culture-club/2011/09/08/how-to-talk-to-foreigners-in-japan (http://poligo.com/poligo-groups/culture-club/2011/09/08/how-to-talk-to-foreigners-in-japan)

I've actually never run into someone insisting they can't speak English while I'm speaking Japanese to them.  Of course, now that I've said that, it'll probably happen tomorrow.

It's only happened to me three times, so it's not an everyday occurrence. I think that if people's minds are on something else (like the service counter where I went to ask about the laundry soap) they can't switch gears from what they were doing and just freeze. After all, how many times a day does a foreigner walk up to them?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: bigozzy on January 12, 2012, 03:47:35 AM

. Because we spent Monday at the library instead of the pool - (pool was shocked on Mondays)
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Wow, that's pretty severe. Here we just put up a 'Pool Closed Monday' sign.  >:D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: WolfWay on January 12, 2012, 04:28:24 AM

. Because we spent Monday at the library instead of the pool - (pool was shocked on Mondays)


Wow, that's pretty severe. Here we just put up a 'Pool Closed Monday' sign.  >:D
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I think in this case "shock" is another term for treating the pool.  ;) (although the mental images are hilarious). *zzzzzzzot*

http://www.wikihow.com/Shock-Your-Swimming-Pool
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: bigozzy on January 12, 2012, 05:38:35 AM

. Because we spent Monday at the library instead of the pool - (pool was shocked on Mondays)


Wow, that's pretty severe. Here we just put up a 'Pool Closed Monday' sign.  >:D
I think in this case "shock" is another term for treating the pool.  ;) (although the mental images are hilarious). *zzzzzzzot*

http://www.wikihow.com/Shock-Your-Swimming-Pool
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Ya learn soemthing new each time you go on this site! This should be another one for the 'Meaning of words' thread.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: WolfWay on January 12, 2012, 06:05:14 AM

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. Because we spent Monday at the library instead of the pool - (pool was shocked on Mondays)


Wow, that's pretty severe. Here we just put up a 'Pool Closed Monday' sign.  >:D
I think in this case "shock" is another term for treating the pool.  ;) (although the mental images are hilarious). *zzzzzzzot*

http://www.wikihow.com/Shock-Your-Swimming-Pool


Ya learn soemthing new each time you go on this site! This should be another one for the 'Meaning of words' thread.
It might be a Transatlantic thing. In South Africa we never shock a pool, we treat it (I had to look that up to check it was a valid use of the word "shock" and learnt something new).

On topic:
A friend of mine got stuck in a conversation (well, she was talked AT) with someone who had managed to muddle up a whole collection of woowoo beliefs to come up with the firm certainty that Jesus was a half-alien hybrid and he had somehow directed the building of the pyramids as alien spaceship landing platforms (and somehow Atlantis was also involved, and it sunk because Pompeii exploded and made the earth's crust split).

It seems like this person thought all history before 1AD happened at once and was somehow all internconnected in this big complex web of events.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Thipu1 on January 12, 2012, 08:10:26 AM
Ooh yeah, the ancient world, especially Pharaonic Egypt, attracts all sorts of craziness. 

One of my favorite beliefs was the one that Isis was a Roman goddess who infiltrated Egypt during the First Intermediate Period. 

This would be some feat because the First Intermediate Period ended some 600 years before the founding of Rome. 

When I worked in the library we privately called these folks Pyramidiots. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: bigozzy on January 12, 2012, 09:19:42 AM
Just remembered one from when I was working in a big pub/function place.

BG: At this time it was traditional for the local station current affair programme to run a spoof section for April Fool's Day. One year they used a BBC one which showed the Italian harvest of spagheti from spagheti trees. This year they did a very deatiled expose of exploding spriing rolls.

They even had 'interviews' with 'victims' in full body casts as a result of biting in to an exploding spring roll. It was well done but pretty obviously tongue in cheek.

Back to the function planned for April 4th which included buffet finger food.

I picked up the phone while we were setting up the bar in the suite.

Frantic customer was demanding that we check where all of our food came from cause she didn't want any exploding food ruining her daughter's 21st party.

I tried to explain that it was broadcast on April 1st on a channel and programme well known for April Fool's Day jokes but she just would not rest until I got the manager and he promised to check all spring rolls for safety.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Ferrets on January 12, 2012, 09:38:45 AM
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I kind of think maybe she was asking if lice could be transferred from one person to another in swimming pools

That's exactly what I read it - and would have answered it. And I don't think it's an unreasonable question. Can they be transferred between people in that way?

It's unlikely, according to here (http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/swimming/faq/#get_lice) and here (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17988347). Any increased risk at a swimming pool appears to be from potentially sharing brushes/combs/towels, etc. with an infected person.


Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on January 12, 2012, 09:58:30 AM
Ooh yeah, the ancient world, especially Pharaonic Egypt, attracts all sorts of craziness. 

One of my favorite beliefs was the one that Isis was a Roman goddess who infiltrated Egypt during the First Intermediate Period. 

This would be some feat because the First Intermediate Period ended some 600 years before the founding of Rome. 

When I worked in the library we privately called these folks Pyramidiots.
I had one patron who wanted a photograph of Cleopatra.  It took several minutes of back-and-forth before I thought to ask why she needed to see this non-existent photograph.  She managed to explain that she was going to a costume party and wanted to know what Egyptian dress of Cleopatra's era looked like.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: rose red on January 12, 2012, 10:10:36 AM
^ That reminds me of the time my friend and I were looking at a calender of unicorns.  I said "I wonder how they make it look so real."  My friend said "They just take pictures of them and pick the best ones."  Took her a few minutes to realise what she said.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: 2littlemonkeys on January 12, 2012, 10:15:18 AM
I just recalled one from college.  I went to school in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and there are a lot of very small towns in that area.  Our Resident Adviser (RA) was from one of these small towns.  I grew up several hours away in the mid part of the Lower Peninsula.  For background purposes, the two peninsulas are divided by the Straits of Mackinac and people got tired of swimming, so they built a suspension bridge to link the two peninsulas back in the '50s.

One Thanksgiving, many of us making preparations to go home for the weekend.  RA asked me how long it usually took me to get home.  I told her between 6-8 hours, depending on the weather and road conditions.

RA: "Really? I would have thought it took longer.  I mean, you have to loop all the way around the lake!"

Me: "What?  No, I just take The Bridge."

RA: "What bridge?"

Me: (???)  The Bridge.  The Mackinac Bridge. 

RA:  Oh!  When did they build that?

She had never really gone anywhere outside of her county (which was near Wisconsin) and had absolutely no idea there was a bridge.  She thought everyone just drove around.


I'm surprised the RA didn't know about the bridge! But I suppose if she never had reason to go to that part of the state...
Joking aside -- wasn't there a vehicle ferry across the straits, before the bridge was built?

It struck me, too, as surprising that the lady had never heard of the bridge -- built as long ago as the 1950s.  But, as said, if the situation had never directly impinged on her life... sometimes, people basically "know what they need to know" -- cf Sherlock Holmes, who could never remember whether the earth revolved round the sun or vice versa, and wasn't bothered about it: that was data he didn't need for his detecting, so he didn't clutter up his brain with it.

Gives rise to thoughts about a rather similar set-up, though on a much smaller scale, in the UK.  For a long time, the lowest-down bridge over the wide River Severn, was at Gloucester.  Further down-river, there were a couple of not-hugely-effective means of getting vehicles across; but often, the least time-consuming option was to drive around via Gloucester -- possibly as much as an 80/90-mile total journey. A suspension bridge, a good way down-river, was opened in 1966; and a second, yet further down, many years later.  2littlemonkeys's story has me wondering whether there might possibly be today, in that area along the Severn, any very stay-at-home and non-news-following citizens, who are unaware of the existence of the suspension bridges.

Yes, they had quite a few ferries but it got tricky in the winter with the ice.  It was also such a popular tourist area that the ferries were having difficulty accommodating the volume.  So they built the bridge and it opened in 1957. (Thanks Interwebz!  you always make me sound so smart!   ;D)

And yeah, it was a real lesson in how isolated some of those villages in the UP can be!  I later met people who'd never left their town until they came to the university. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: squashedfrog on January 12, 2012, 10:41:00 AM
my hairdresser is very into Ripley's and the healing power of stones and new age etc, which is all fine.

However, she honestly believes that the pyramids were built by giants.  Why?  Because she claims they have found the fossilised (really??) remains of giants at the base of the great pyramid, but obviously, its all hushed up. 

I didn't know where to start on that statement, so I thought "its always good to keep an open mind" was the best answer as she had sharp sissors near my head at the time. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on January 12, 2012, 10:53:55 AM
my hairdresser is very into Ripley's and the healing power of stones and new age etc, which is all fine.

However, she honestly believes that the pyramids were built by giants.  Why?  Because she claims they have found the fossilised (really??) remains of giants at the base of the great pyramid, but obviously, its all hushed up. 

I didn't know where to start on that statement, so I thought "its always good to keep an open mind" was the best answer as she had sharp sissors near my head at the time.
But not so open that your brains fall out!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: VorFemme on January 12, 2012, 11:13:22 AM
Just goes to show you that you don't have to use Spell Check on a letter to thoroughly confuse a conversation.

Translate =/= transmit - but if someone doesn't usually use "long words" they might get confused when searching their vocabulary for the appropriate term (translate does come first alphabetically).

We've had a pool a couple of times and I remember at least one brand name of extra strong chlorine that was used to treat a pool weekly that had the word "shock" in it - I wonder if that was how people started "shocking" their pool instead of "treating it" (this was thirty years ago - so that useage had has plenty of time to spread out from where ever Pool Shock was first used - and whatever the actual name was - we haven't had a pool in 16 years and I don't want one in my yard because they are a pain in the asterisk to keep up).

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: siamesecat2965 on January 12, 2012, 11:14:26 AM
I just remembered this one from a co-worker.  She commented that a song on our store soundtrack sounded like an old, classic rock song, one waaay before her time.  I'm about 20 years older than she is :) - I commented that I was impressed she knew that song, and she said to me, quite serious. "Oh, I was reincarnated" I didn't know quite what to say so I just said ok, and went to fold some sweaters!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on January 12, 2012, 11:42:15 AM
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One of my favorite beliefs was the one that Isis was a Roman goddess who infiltrated Egypt during the First Intermediate Period. 

This would be some feat because the First Intermediate Period ended some 600 years before the founding of Rome. 

When I worked in the library we privately called these folks Pyramidiots.

Isn't that kinda mean, though?  Not everyone knows everything about Egypt or different periods in history. I'd hate to be considered an idiot just because I didn't happen to know something that someone else does.  I'd venture to say that there are things that I know off the top of my head that you (generic) don't.  I don't consider you an idiot for not knowing them. :(

I see a difference between the conversations here that are just weird and funny because they're bizarre and ones where it's just that someone didn't happen to know something that another person does.
 
 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: MyFamily on January 12, 2012, 11:49:29 AM
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One of my favorite beliefs was the one that Isis was a Roman goddess who infiltrated Egypt during the First Intermediate Period. 

This would be some feat because the First Intermediate Period ended some 600 years before the founding of Rome. 

When I worked in the library we privately called these folks Pyramidiots.

Isn't that kinda mean, though?  Not everyone knows everything about Egypt or different periods in history. I'd hate to be considered an idiot just because I didn't happen to know something that someone else does.  I'd venture to say that there are things that I know off the top of my head that you (generic) don't.  I don't consider you an idiot for not knowing them. :(

I see a difference between the conversations here that are just weird and funny because they're bizarre and ones where it's just that someone didn't happen to know something that another person does.

Dotty, I don't think they are talking about people like you and me who don't know the time period, but the ones who come in and declare things that couldn't have happened because the people involved 100's of years apart, and despite being shown the books declare that the books are all lies because they know the truth.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Outdoor Girl on January 12, 2012, 11:49:54 AM
We've had a pool a couple of times and I remember at least one brand name of extra strong chlorine that was used to treat a pool weekly that had the word "shock" in it - I wonder if that was how people started "shocking" their pool instead of "treating it" (this was thirty years ago - so that useage had has plenty of time to spread out from where ever Pool Shock was first used - and whatever the actual name was - we haven't had a pool in 16 years and I don't want one in my yard because they are a pain in the asterisk to keep up).

I've always said that the only way I'd ever have a pool in my yard is if it came with a pool boy!

I don't ever remember not using the word 'shock' for pools (I'm 43).  We had a hot tub, not a pool, and had to keep a certain chlorine level in it.  If it got out of control, that's when we'd shock it.  Adding lots of chlorine to kill everything and start over trying to get it into balance.  If it was in balance and we were just adding a little bit of top up chlorine, that was treating it.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Moray on January 12, 2012, 11:52:57 AM
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One of my favorite beliefs was the one that Isis was a Roman goddess who infiltrated Egypt during the First Intermediate Period. 

This would be some feat because the First Intermediate Period ended some 600 years before the founding of Rome. 

When I worked in the library we privately called these folks Pyramidiots.

Isn't that kinda mean, though?  Not everyone knows everything about Egypt or different periods in history. I'd hate to be considered an idiot just because I didn't happen to know something that someone else does.  I'd venture to say that there are things that I know off the top of my head that you (generic) don't.  I don't consider you an idiot for not knowing them. :(

I see a difference between the conversations here that are just weird and funny because they're bizarre and ones where it's just that someone didn't happen to know something that another person does.

Doesn't seem mean to me. I'm thinking the "idiot" label has less to do with an acknowledged ignorance regarding Egypt and more to do with the spouting of "facts" that prove the patron doesn't know what on earth they're talking about.

If someone doesn't know much about Napoleon, that's not cause for ridicule, but if someone says "Oh, I know all about Napoleon. Did you know he invented time travel and had a proclivity for wearing waffles on his head?", I'm going to think they're a loony.

Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: RingTailedLemur on January 12, 2012, 12:02:57 PM
Agreed - it's not so much ignorance that bothers me, it is wilful ignorance.

There are a lot of people on Y!A who will ask a question, then diss all the answers with a rant along the lines of, "You people are all dumb, you haven't changed my mind".  It's painful.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Softly Spoken on January 12, 2012, 12:07:04 PM
Ooh yeah, the ancient world, especially Pharaonic Egypt, attracts all sorts of craziness. 

One of my favorite beliefs was the one that Isis was a Roman goddess who infiltrated Egypt during the First Intermediate Period. 

This would be some feat because the First Intermediate Period ended some 600 years before the founding of Rome. 

When I worked in the library we privately called these folks Pyramidiots.

Bobby Singer would say: "Pyramidjits"

The first sentence of the quote (re: 'infiltrated') puts this funny picture in my head of a goddess in a trench coat and sunglasses sneaking into the pyramids with a hammer and chisel and putting herself in the hieroglyphs. "Who me? Why I'm Aphrodi- uh, I mean *Isis*, yeah I've *always* been here just look at the wall!"

Me = *feeling goofy this morning...*
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 12, 2012, 12:08:58 PM
Ooh yeah, the ancient world, especially Pharaonic Egypt, attracts all sorts of craziness. 

One of my favorite beliefs was the one that Isis was a Roman goddess who infiltrated Egypt during the First Intermediate Period. 

This would be some feat because the First Intermediate Period ended some 600 years before the founding of Rome. 

When I worked in the library we privately called these folks Pyramidiots.

Bobby Singer would say: "Pyramidjits"

The first sentence of the quote (re: 'infiltrated') puts this funny picture in my head of a goddess in a trench coat and sunglasses sneaking into the pyramids with a hammer and chisel and putting herself in the hieroglyphs. "Who me? Why I'm Aphrodi- uh, I mean *Isis*, yeah I've *always* been here just look at the wall!"

Me = *feeling goofy this morning...*

So THAT'S who Carmen Sandiego REALLY was - and why she was always stealing monuments!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: DottyG on January 12, 2012, 12:09:42 PM
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Dotty, I don't think they are talking about people like you and me who don't know the time period, but the ones who come in and declare things that couldn't have happened because the people involved 100's of years apart, and despite being shown the books declare that the books are all lies because they know the truth.

If that's what T meant, that makes more sense, I guess.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Softly Spoken on January 12, 2012, 12:20:17 PM
^ That reminds me of the time my friend and I were looking at a calender of unicorns.  I said "I wonder how they make it look so real."  My friend said "They just take pictures of them and pick the best ones."  Took her a few minutes to realise what she said.

Well if she's seen certain clips of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqDDlYi8GSw) movie, then I understand why she might have said it.  ;D (horn + glue = unicorn!)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: hobish on January 12, 2012, 12:24:11 PM
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. Because we spent Monday at the library instead of the pool - (pool was shocked on Mondays)


Wow, that's pretty severe. Here we just put up a 'Pool Closed Monday' sign.  >:D
I think in this case "shock" is another term for treating the pool.  ;) (although the mental images are hilarious). *zzzzzzzot*

http://www.wikihow.com/Shock-Your-Swimming-Pool


Ya learn soemthing new each time you go on this site! This should be another one for the 'Meaning of words' thread.

 ;D! I thought you were just making a funny.

edited to fix quote tags ... i hope :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: rose red on January 12, 2012, 12:30:23 PM
^ That reminds me of the time my friend and I were looking at a calender of unicorns.  I said "I wonder how they make it look so real."  My friend said "They just take pictures of them and pick the best ones."  Took her a few minutes to realise what she said.

Well if she's seen certain clips of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqDDlYi8GSw) movie, then I understand why she might have said it.  ;D (horn + glue = unicorn!)

I use to LOVE that movie.  I think I still have a VHS copy somewhere in the basement  ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Virg on January 12, 2012, 12:34:57 PM
Vorpal Bunny wrote:

"If someone doesn't know much about Napoleon, that's not cause for ridicule, but if someone says "Oh, I know all about Napoleon. Did you know he invented time travel and had a proclivity for wearing waffles on his head?", I'm going to think they're a loony."

No kidding.  I mean, didn't Napoleon wear his waffles on his shoulders?  Psh, some people will believe anything, eh?

Outdoor Girl wrote:

"I don't ever remember not using the word 'shock' for pools (I'm 43).  We had a hot tub, not a pool, and had to keep a certain chlorine level in it.  If it got out of control, that's when we'd shock it.  Adding lots of chlorine to kill everything and start over trying to get it into balance.  If it was in balance and we were just adding a little bit of top up chlorine, that was treating it."

Public pools (in the U.S. at least) have pretty stiff health regulations to adhere to, and so many of them will deal with the rules about acceptable levels of bacteria by shocking the pool on a regular schedule rather than trying to do a regular test that may have accuracy issues or whatever, because regular shock treatment costs less than a fine for letting the numbers get out of spec.

Virg
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Hillia on January 12, 2012, 12:40:02 PM
Just thought of another one...

BIL swears that the 'Throwback' Mountain Dew (vintage labeling, and cane sugar rather than HFCS) actually has NutraSweet rather than sugar in it, because he can feel the difference on his tongue.  Now I agree that artificial sweeteners have different tastes/aftertastes to different people, but would the soda company really go to all that trouble to deceive the public when a) there's no gain in it for them and b) the contents of the soda are easily verifiable by a lab?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: cabbageweevil on January 12, 2012, 12:49:29 PM
Yes, they had quite a few ferries but it got tricky in the winter with the ice.  It was also such a popular tourist area that the ferries were having difficulty accommodating the volume.  So they built the bridge and it opened in 1957. (Thanks Interwebz!  you always make me sound so smart!   ;D)

And yeah, it was a real lesson in how isolated some of those villages in the UP can be!  I later met people who'd never left their town until they came to the university.
I rather overlooked the ice factor, that far north in North America -- realise now, that it's a problem in the Great Lakes region.  Comes to mind, a sci-fi novel series which I enjoy, set in the midst of World War 2 -- with, to complicate things, an invasion of Earth by aliens from another planet, with rather higher technology.  The heroes have to get from Chicago to Duluth -- with the invasion situation, least-awful way to do so, is by ship: it's midwinter, so the ship has to stop some miles out of Duluth; solid ice from there on in, and everything / everyone has to be conveyed over the ice into town.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Flora Louise on January 12, 2012, 12:53:47 PM
I once worked with an adult woman who had no idea that the U.S. President lives in the White House. She was born and raised and lived in Washington, DC.  :o
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jedikaiti on January 12, 2012, 12:55:17 PM
I once worked with an adult woman who had no idea that the U.S. President lives in the White House. She was born and raised and lived in Washington, DC.  :o

My mind, she is blown.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Tigger on January 12, 2012, 12:57:33 PM
I once worked with an adult woman who had no idea that the U.S. President lives in the White House. She was born and raised and lived in Washington, DC.  :o

I'm Canadian and I know that. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 12, 2012, 03:33:09 PM
Just thought of another one...

BIL swears that the 'Throwback' Mountain Dew (vintage labeling, and cane sugar rather than HFCS) actually has NutraSweet rather than sugar in it, because he can feel the difference on his tongue.  Now I agree that artificial sweeteners have different tastes/aftertastes to different people, but would the soda company really go to all that trouble to deceive the public when a) there's no gain in it for them and b) the contents of the soda are easily verifiable by a lab?

I really have no knowledge of Mountain Dew, but apparently claims being easily testable doesn't always bother a lying company

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10431119

Summary: Two schoolgirls doing their chemistry project bust a large corporation in a lie.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Moray on January 12, 2012, 03:33:35 PM
Vorpal Bunny wrote:

"If someone doesn't know much about Napoleon, that's not cause for ridicule, but if someone says "Oh, I know all about Napoleon. Did you know he invented time travel and had a proclivity for wearing waffles on his head?", I'm going to think they're a loony."

No kidding.  I mean, didn't Napoleon wear his waffles on his shoulders?  Psh, some people will believe anything, eh?

[snip]

That's correct, Virg. Most scholars agree that Napoleon was partial to waffle-based epaulettes during his early career. However, by 1815, he had grown tired of the style and preferred to wear them tied to his ankles.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Slartibartfast on January 12, 2012, 03:37:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xENMDMFjnA

You're welcome :P

/threadjack
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: gramma dishes on January 12, 2012, 03:38:37 PM
Vorpal Bunny wrote:

"If someone doesn't know much about Napoleon, that's not cause for ridicule, but if someone says "Oh, I know all about Napoleon. Did you know he invented time travel and had a proclivity for wearing waffles on his head?", I'm going to think they're a loony."

No kidding.  I mean, didn't Napoleon wear his waffles on his shoulders?  Psh, some people will believe anything, eh?

[snip]



That's correct, Virg. Most scholars agree that Napoleon was partial to waffle-based epaulettes during his early career. However, by 1815, he had grown tired of the style and preferred to wear them tied to his ankles.

Then he started putting them inside his shoes to provide a soft surface for his tired feet and to help disguise his small stature, thus inventing lifts.  ;)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Moray on January 12, 2012, 03:39:32 PM
Vorpal Bunny wrote:

"If someone doesn't know much about Napoleon, that's not cause for ridicule, but if someone says "Oh, I know all about Napoleon. Did you know he invented time travel and had a proclivity for wearing waffles on his head?", I'm going to think they're a loony."

No kidding.  I mean, didn't Napoleon wear his waffles on his shoulders?  Psh, some people will believe anything, eh?

[snip]


That's correct, Virg. Most scholars agree that Napoleon was partial to waffle-based epaulettes during his early career. However, by 1815, he had grown tired of the style and preferred to wear them tied to his ankles.

Then he started putting them inside his shoes to provide a soft surface for his tired feet and to help disguise his small stature, thus inventing lifts.  ;)

Great inventor, Napoleon.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 12, 2012, 03:39:47 PM
Vorpal Bunny wrote:

"If someone doesn't know much about Napoleon, that's not cause for ridicule, but if someone says "Oh, I know all about Napoleon. Did you know he invented time travel and had a proclivity for wearing waffles on his head?", I'm going to think they're a loony."

No kidding.  I mean, didn't Napoleon wear his waffles on his shoulders?  Psh, some people will believe anything, eh?

[snip]

That's correct, Virg. Most scholars agree that Napoleon was partial to waffle-based epaulettes during his early career. However, by 1815, he had grown tired of the style and preferred to wear them tied to his ankles.

Was that before or after Boadicea defeated him at the battle of Hastings  >:D ?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Browyn on January 12, 2012, 06:04:22 PM
Vorpal Bunny wrote:

"If someone doesn't know much about Napoleon, that's not cause for ridicule, but if someone says "Oh, I know all about Napoleon. Did you know he invented time travel and had a proclivity for wearing waffles on his head?", I'm going to think they're a loony."

No kidding.  I mean, didn't Napoleon wear his waffles on his shoulders?  Psh, some people will believe anything, eh?

[snip]


That's correct, Virg. Most scholars agree that Napoleon was partial to waffle-based epaulettes during his early career. However, by 1815, he had grown tired of the style and preferred to wear them tied to his ankles.

Then he started putting them inside his shoes to provide a soft surface for his tired feet and to help disguise his small stature, thus inventing lifts.  ;)

Great inventor, Napoleon.

He was a pioneer in waffle couture

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-76_kZBOIM7s/TY148DV0xqI/AAAAAAAABJo/8x3riVDI8N8/s1600/ss-101130-food-couture-02.grid-4x2.jpg)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: kareng57 on January 12, 2012, 06:30:59 PM
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Years ago I worked for the health dept and we used to get all kinds of crazy calls.  I remember one in particular-

Caller:  "Can you tell me if lice translate in pools?"

Co worker: " That depends on whether or not they speak English."

Caller:  "Ok, thanks."

That one was just a different word used (maybe someone whose first language isn't English).  Why didn't your coworker just answer her correctly?  Your coworker was unnecessarily snarky, it sounds like.  It's clear what the lady was asking.  ???


I agree, Dottyg.  People who phone the health department usually have legitimate concerns - even if they have trouble making themselves understood - and making fun of them is very unprofessional IMO.  It certainly can take more time to figure out what they want to know, but it needs to be done.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Thipu1 on January 12, 2012, 08:28:44 PM
Agreed - it's not so much ignorance that bothers me, it is wilful ignorance.

There are a lot of people on Y!A who will ask a question, then diss all the answers with a rant along the lines of, "You people are all dumb, you haven't changed my mind".  It's painful.

Amen, RingTailedLemur.

There are people who don't know but want to learn.  These are the people who are grateful when they get the information they need to know.  In the library we were always happy to meet these folks and help them. 

There are also the people don't know but know they know and want to teach us poor, benightened souls THE TRUTH!!!

Why does the library not have X's books?  Are we afraid of THE TRUTH?

No. We do not buy his books because X  claims that old Kingdom Egypt had both helicopters and electric lights. need I say more?

 



 

Those are the ones we called the Pyramidiots.  The library didn't have X's books.     
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Jelaza on January 12, 2012, 09:48:27 PM
I have an ongoing one that happened again today.

My sister has a habit of watching TV on the couch with my cat laying on top of her.  If she needs to get up for some reason, there'll be ten minutes of "Kitty, you need to move. I have to get up to <insert reason here>."  I alternate between pretending to ignore her, and saying "Just pick him up and move him."  He's just a big lump of fur; he's not going to attack anyone for picking him up.  And she's known him for 10 years, so she knows that he won't.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Amava on January 12, 2012, 09:50:25 PM
I have an ongoing one that happened again today.

My sister has a habit of watching TV on the couch with my cat laying on top of her.  If she needs to get up for some reason, there'll be ten minutes of "Kitty, you need to move. I have to get up to <insert reason here>."  I alternate between pretending to ignore her, and saying "Just pick him up and move him."  He's just a big lump of fur; he's not going to attack anyone for picking him up.  And she's known him for 10 years, so she knows that he won't.

Nah, she's just delaying getting up from her cosy position, and blaming the kitty!  ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Jelaza on January 12, 2012, 10:15:57 PM
You know, you may be right about that!

I still reserve the right to be bugged by it. ;)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: amylouky on January 13, 2012, 10:09:59 AM
I have an ongoing one that happened again today.

My sister has a habit of watching TV on the couch with my cat laying on top of her.  If she needs to get up for some reason, there'll be ten minutes of "Kitty, you need to move. I have to get up to <insert reason here>."  I alternate between pretending to ignore her, and saying "Just pick him up and move him."  He's just a big lump of fur; he's not going to attack anyone for picking him up.  And she's known him for 10 years, so she knows that he won't.
Nah, she's just delaying getting up from her cosy position, and blaming the kitty!  ;D

I have to confess, I do this to DH all the time (but, with his knowledge.. it's become a joke). We have an older cat (15), and if she's laying on me I'll ask DH to get me a coke or something, because I can't make old girl get up. :)
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Bexx27 on January 13, 2012, 11:36:34 AM
The post in the Kids Say the Funniest Things thread where a child said his brother's eye had poked his finger reminded me of this.

I've been helping with some research that involves reviewing transcripts of interviews conducted with jail inmates. Most of them say what you'd expect, expressing regret and remorse, wanting to turn their lives around, etc. But a few are just mind-boggling with how they rationalize their actions or deflect blame onto others. Yesterday I laughed out loud when I read this: "I was arrested for malicious wounding, but I didn't do it. His [body part] got in the way of my knife."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Reader on January 13, 2012, 12:00:33 PM
One of my exes and I made up this inside joke of kitty rule.  If either of us had one of my cats in our laps we would declare kitty rule and the other would get up and get what the other person needed.  It was always particularly funny, because my cat Delilah would startle and move even if the person she was sitting on wouldn't thus negating kitty rule altogether.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pugwoman on January 13, 2012, 12:05:21 PM
I went to school with a real airhead.  Examples of questions she asked the teacher in  class:

Health Class
"Teacher?  If someone has a head injury, do you put the tourniquet around their neck?"

Geography Class
"Teacher?  Did Mt. Rushmore just erode that way?"

What a ding dong.  And those are just the ones I remember.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Wulfie on January 13, 2012, 12:05:59 PM
Grin.  Morgan has learned "Morgan Move" means that she needs to move. She is 7lbs.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Reason on January 13, 2012, 12:08:24 PM
I've never heard of an airhead using the word "tourniquet" before :)

Besides, all school teach that there is not such thing as a stupid question, just a teachable moment.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: NyaChan on January 13, 2012, 12:15:00 PM
I went to school with a real airhead.  Examples of questions she asked the teacher in  class:

Health Class
"Teacher?  If someone has a head injury, do you put the tourniquet around their neck?"

Geography Class
"Teacher?  Did Mt. Rushmore just erode that way?"

What a ding dong.  And those are just the ones I remember.

Ah that reminded me of some doozies!

In 5th grade -
"No, no, the moon is closer than China.  China's on the other side of the world."

"There are no airports outside of the US." - to this the teacher responded then how did OtherStudent go on vacation in Asia?  "She swam?"

My favorite:  a fellow HS student tried to convince me that the inset map of Hawaii & Alaska shown on typical US maps were not insets.  No that was where Hawaii & Alaska actually were.  In an attempt to disabuse her of that notion, I showed her another map where the insets were placed in a different spot.  She responded "Oh that's cuz of continental drift."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BB-VA on January 13, 2012, 12:29:49 PM
The post in the Kids Say the Funniest Things thread where a child said his brother's eye had poked his finger reminded me of this.

I've been helping with some research that involves reviewing transcripts of interviews conducted with jail inmates. Most of them say what you'd expect, expressing regret and remorse, wanting to turn their lives around, etc. But a few are just mind-boggling with how they rationalize their actions or deflect blame onto others. Yesterday I laughed out loud when I read this: "I was arrested for malicious wounding, but I didn't do it. His [body part] got in the way of my knife."

My DD's ex-FIL (YAY for the ex part) did time for shooting and killing a man (manslaughter).  His rationale - "It wasn't the bullet that killed him, it was the infection."
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: BabyMama on January 13, 2012, 12:45:50 PM
Our 15 lb cat has a tendency to come sit on top of whatever I happen to be reading. He's particularly fond of coming to sit on top of our Nook  ???

I stayed with my aunt and uncle in Hawaii one summer, and we all (my cousins and I) had to go to this summer school/day camp thing. Some of the kids there didn't believe I was from the mainland. I said yes, I am, I'm from Minnesota. One girl actually said, "People actually live there???" They also didn't believe me about snow. A few years later, my Hawaii cousins came to stay with us. The first day it snowed, the eldest cousin went outside and scooped some up in a tupperware container. Not sure what he thought would happen to it...
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Pugwoman on January 13, 2012, 12:47:55 PM
I've never heard of an airhead using the word "tourniquet" before :)

Besides, all school teach that there is not such thing as a stupid question, just a teachable moment.

Well, we were learning about tourniquets, so that's where she heard the word.  Trust me - this girl was a sandwich short of a picnic.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: HungryHungryKitties on January 13, 2012, 01:40:41 PM
One of my exes and I made up this inside joke of kitty rule.  If either of us had one of my cats in our laps we would declare kitty rule and the other would get up and get what the other person needed.   It was always particularly funny, because my cat Delilah would startle and move even if the person she was sitting on wouldn't thus negating kitty rule altogether.

I am now invoking the existence of The Kitty Rule (TKR (tm)) in my house!  Thanks!   ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Kiara on January 13, 2012, 01:57:58 PM
Yesterday I laughed out loud when I read this: "I was arrested for malicious wounding, but I didn't do it. His [body part] got in the way of my knife."

Anyone else now humming "Cell Block Tango" from Chicago?  "He ran into my knife.  He ran into my knife fifteen times."   ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Nora on January 13, 2012, 02:13:34 PM
Yesterday I laughed out loud when I read this: "I was arrested for malicious wounding, but I didn't do it. His [body part] got in the way of my knife."

Anyone else now humming "Cell Block Tango" from Chicago?  "He ran into my knife.  He ran into my knife fifteen times."   ;D

I was tapping my foot to the tune in my head! Incredible the cognitive dissonance people are capable of!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: shhh its me on January 13, 2012, 02:27:40 PM
The post in the Kids Say the Funniest Things thread where a child said his brother's eye had poked his finger reminded me of this.

I've been helping with some research that involves reviewing transcripts of interviews conducted with jail inmates. Most of them say what you'd expect, expressing regret and remorse, wanting to turn their lives around, etc. But a few are just mind-boggling with how they rationalize their actions or deflect blame onto others. Yesterday I laughed out loud when I read this: "I was arrested for malicious wounding, but I didn't do it. His [body part] got in the way of my knife."

I heard a lawyer say once(in an interview after their client was convicted of 1st degree murder) "my client merely discharged a firearm while it happend to be pointing at victim , several times"   Victim was less then a room away a "it was self defense" " it was justified " and "it was spur of moment" plea already lost.  They were not actually saying they didn't see victim or they were tyring to fire warning shots but that it was not a reasonable conclusion the with premeditation pointing a gun at someone and again with premeditation pulling the trigger multiple times only implied intent to fire a gun not to strike the person in front of the gun with a bullet.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Iris on January 13, 2012, 03:27:18 PM
I've never heard of an airhead using the word "tourniquet" before :)

Besides, all school teach that there is not such thing as a stupid question, just a teachable moment.

I strongly believe that - the follow up to my earlier post on the student convinced she didn't need to learn because the world was going to end in 2012 is that two OTHER students stayed after class to talk to me. They were scared by the conversation and didn't understand how I could be so confident that it was nonsense. I explained the theory and we discussed how calendars work and the nature of time measurement and off they went, reassured.

On the surface of it "Is the world going to end?" is a really stupid question - but worrying about it and going to a trusted source to find out more information - that's the first baby steps towards critical thought.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Reader on January 13, 2012, 03:57:12 PM
One of my exes and I made up this inside joke of kitty rule.  If either of us had one of my cats in our laps we would declare kitty rule and the other would get up and get what the other person needed.   It was always particularly funny, because my cat Delilah would startle and move even if the person she was sitting on wouldn't thus negating kitty rule altogether.

I am now invoking the existence of The Kitty Rule (TKR (tm)) in my house!  Thanks!   ;D

Your're welcome!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Sirius on January 13, 2012, 04:15:39 PM
I've never heard of an airhead using the word "tourniquet" before :)

Besides, all school teach that there is not such thing as a stupid question, just a teachable moment.

I strongly believe that - the follow up to my earlier post on the student convinced she didn't need to learn because the world was going to end in 2012 is that two OTHER students stayed after class to talk to me. They were scared by the conversation and didn't understand how I could be so confident that it was nonsense. I explained the theory and we discussed how calendars work and the nature of time measurement and off they went, reassured.

On the surface of it "Is the world going to end?" is a really stupid question - but worrying about it and going to a trusted source to find out more information - that's the first baby steps towards critical thought.

Getting an idea and then researching it to see if it's feasible is where a lot of discoveries came from. 
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: WhiteTigerCub on January 13, 2012, 04:55:20 PM
Yesterday I laughed out loud when I read this: "I was arrested for malicious wounding, but I didn't do it. His [body part] got in the way of my knife."

Anyone else now humming "Cell Block Tango" from Chicago?  "He ran into my knife.  He ran into my knife fifteen  nine times."   ;D

Ah yes. very much so.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on January 13, 2012, 08:46:18 PM
Our 15 lb cat has a tendency to come sit on top of whatever I happen to be reading. He's particularly fond of coming to sit on top of our Nook  ???
You didn't know that cats read with their butts?
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: wendelenn on January 13, 2012, 10:24:15 PM
Yesterday I laughed out loud when I read this: "I was arrested for malicious wounding, but I didn't do it. His [body part] got in the way of my knife."

Anyone else now humming "Cell Block Tango" from Chicago?  "He ran into my knife.  He ran into my knife fifteen times."   ;D

I was going to post the exact same thing!!
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Ereine on January 14, 2012, 04:30:31 AM
The boomerang thing reminded me of some I used to know. She was a nice person and smart but due to some things she'd get very excited about things, especially if they were pseudoscience or conspiracies and things like that. I think that she belived in the Secret and she was once telling me how you can do things with the power of your mind. Her example was that Australian aboriginals hunted by calling animals to them telepathically.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jilly on January 14, 2012, 06:56:37 AM
I had a  good post going and the computer ate it  >:(

So I had another  :o cconversation with my "which up arrow key coworker".

Some background. I live in big town BT and work in another town near big supermarket BSM. On the route between the two a 3 way traffic light  junction and nearby side road have been turned into a stretched roundabout. It took ages and I told CW about it when it was going on. The route used to be a right at the lights and I'm in the UK so go clockwise on roundabouts.

CW. I went to BT the other day and had to go to BSM after. What have they done to traffic light junction?
Me. You mean the roundabout? It's so much easier now don't you think much less waiting.
CW.??is that what that is???
Me.. yes.....?..?.what did you do?
CW.. so turning right would be wrong?
Me. You mean on the approach to it?.???  :o you went the wrong way round it?
CW. Well.  . . . .
Me. Weren't there other cars?
CW. I did wonder if they were all honking at me.
Me.   :o
CW. It is confusing..
Me. But there are chevrons and arrows.
Cw. Are there? ???
Me. Yes and a sign with a map
Cw. I thought that was for something further up?
Me. No.
Cw. Its very big.. and not very round.
Me. Neither is  the monstrous one down the road....

There was more but I kind of shut off it's too scary. I didn't like his driving before and wouldn't get in his car now I'm not sure I want to be on the road at the same time.
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Elfmama on January 14, 2012, 09:04:34 AM
Roundabouts in the UK tend to confuse Americans like me (because the few that we have do spin counter-clockwise) but this was another Brit?  :o
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Amava on January 14, 2012, 09:15:42 AM
Roundabouts in the UK tend to confuse Americans like me (because the few that we have do spin counter-clockwise) but this was another Brit?  :o

Oh that reminds me of my first, quite abrupt, encounter with a British roundabout.
Of course I *knew*, theoretically, that the English drive on the left and take a roundabout the opposite way as we (Belgians) do.
But there is still a big difference between "knowing in theory" and "actually doing it practically for the first time".
It felt SO weird and scary!  :o ;D
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: jilly on January 14, 2012, 09:24:32 AM
Roundabouts in the UK tend to confuse Americans like me (because the few that we have do spin counter-clockwise) but this was another Brit?  :o

Oh that reminds me of my first, quite abrupt, encounter with a British roundabout.
Of course I *knew*, theoretically, that the English drive on the left and    a roundabout the opposite way as we (Belgians) do.
But there is still a big difference between "knowing in theory" and "actually doing it practically for the first time".
It felt SO weird and scary!  :o ;D '
   

'Yes this was another Brit who has been driving in the UK for 30+ years! He just did not notice all the arrows and went the same way he did when it was a Y shaped junction. I just  :o

It felt scary when it was part way built and from some directions you had to go the wrong way round it even though there were stop go men and you knew it was OK turning counter clockwise was just wrong
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: Twik on January 14, 2012, 12:26:28 PM
I've often heard about drunks who get on the highway going the wrong way and drive for miles against traffic. I used to think they must be VERY drunk not to notice all the cars coming at them.

Apparently, one does NOT have to be drunk at all!  :o
Title: Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
Post by: siamesecat2965 on January 14, 2012, 12:55:52 PM
I've often heard about drunks who get on the highway going the wrong way and drive for miles against traffic. I used to think they must be VERY drunk not to notice all the cars coming at them.

Apparently, one does NOT have to be drunk at all!  :o

I did something very scary once, but due to being very very very tired.  I had dropped a friend off, after driving home from the beach (about an hour and a half drive).  I was about 3 blocks from home, and needed to make a left turn at the light.  In the opposite direction, there were two lanes going straight, and one veering off to the right, for right turns, at a 45 degree angle.   

I was barely able to keep my eyes open (I realized AFTER) and turned left up the opposite direction right hand turn.   I did it, then went, OH BOY that was not right.  Being it was about 2am, thankfully no one else was on the road, nor were there any police.  I am SURE I would have been pulled over for a suspected DUI, but as it was Memorial Day weekend and I was driving, I had not had any alcohol. And I was so close to home, but it scared me to death.