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Title: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Hollanda on April 09, 2012, 04:40:36 PM
For singers: Do not stand straight directly in front of the singer and say "But I hate that song! Please sing x by y for me?!" No. Just...no.  Maybe later, but there is a time and place for requests.

For non-singers: Karaoke singers are not comedians. We do not appreciate being heckled half way through a song. We also do not appreciate being told that was "average", or "rubbish", as though you are Simon Cowell.  This is not X Factor or Britain's Got Talent, but most singers I know do enjoy the experience of getting up to sing something. Please allow us to do that and try, just for 3 minutes at a time, to keep your mouths shut and listen. If you cannot manage that, then kindly leave us to enjoy what we do.


Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: JennJenn68 on April 09, 2012, 09:10:32 PM
I don't go to karaoke events. 

I've been told repeatedly that I ought to do so, because I am a singer and I'm told that I'm reasonably good.  Nevertheless, I will not attend karaoke.  The reason is that I follow Hollanda's etiquette suggestions to the letter, and I generally find it impossible to sit and listen to someone murdering any song.  Why, oh why is it that invariably the people that hop up to sing are the people who could not carry a tune even if were contained in a bucket?  I possess the mixed blessing of absolute pitch.  It's handy in my musical profession, but hell to have to listen to people attempt to sing who really should have taken a pass.  It is, quite literally, a painful experience.  I'd rather stick a fork in my eye.

I understand Simon Cowell's reputation completely.  Given his situation, I would be the same acidic, blunt kind of judge.  And that is why I don't go to karoake events.  But yes, Hollanda, you are absolutely correct.  I just want to add, for the benefit of those who may not be aware of this... if you cannot sing when you haven't been imbibing of various alcoholic beverages, the chances that your voice and musical ability have improved with the addition of same are slim to none.  And, for the love of God, don't get up to sing "American Pie" if you don't know more of the lyrics than "Bye, bye Miss American Pie"!  That's just rude to everyone else who is forced to listen to you.

I think I'll go to bed now.  JennJenn's starting to sound misanthropic...
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Amalthea on April 09, 2012, 11:35:34 PM
Why, oh why is it that invariably the people that hop up to sing are the people who could not carry a tune even if were contained in a bucket?

'Cause it's fun?  It's not a crime to have fun doing stuff that you're bad at.

I've only been to public karaoke once (the other times were always private rooms).  Is it normal for people to get up and dance, or was I just with crazy people?
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: shhh its me on April 10, 2012, 05:40:42 AM
I don't go to karaoke events. 

I've been told repeatedly that I ought to do so, because I am a singer and I'm told that I'm reasonably good.  Nevertheless, I will not attend karaoke.  The reason is that I follow Hollanda's etiquette suggestions to the letter, and I generally find it impossible to sit and listen to someone murdering any song.  Why, oh why is it that invariably the people that hop up to sing are the people who could not carry a tune even if were contained in a bucket?  I possess the mixed blessing of absolute pitch.  It's handy in my musical profession, but hell to have to listen to people attempt to sing who really should have taken a pass.  It is, quite literally, a painful experience.  I'd rather stick a fork in my eye.

I understand Simon Cowell's reputation completely.  Given his situation, I would be the same acidic, blunt kind of judge.  And that is why I don't go to karoake events.  But yes, Hollanda, you are absolutely correct.  I just want to add, for the benefit of those who may not be aware of this... if you cannot sing when you haven't been imbibing of various alcoholic beverages, the chances that your voice and musical ability have improved with the addition of same are slim to none.  And, for the love of God, don't get up to sing "American Pie" if you don't know more of the lyrics than "Bye, bye Miss American Pie"!  That's just rude to everyone else who is forced to listen to you.

I think I'll go to bed now.  JennJenn's starting to sound misanthropic...

I think I disagree with this ....I'm not sure if your saying people who "can't" sing should  not try or people who don't like poor singing shouldn't go or both.  I don't think "You need to sign well" was ever the point of Karoake. I don't even think it's comparable to open mic night at a comedy club ( where your would essentially be auditioning for the audience and possible hoping to get booked) but I still don't think anyone can say "unless you know you're funny /you wont forget the punch line, you better not get up there and tell jokes.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Hollanda on April 10, 2012, 08:00:14 AM
JennJenn68 I am so sorry you have had such terrible experiences with karaoke. I can tell you that it is not always the case. There are some establishments that actually do karaoke events well, people do not get too drunk and the standard of the singers is actually very high.  ITA that there are some heinous places out there, and equally some heinous singers.

There is polite behaviour (either sit there, be quiet or leave if you - general you - really cannot stand it). Then there is rude behaviour (heckling, shouting, distracting etc).

In the establishment in which I entered the karaoke competition last night (very high standards, no words on the screen when it comes to the competition - the prize is to perform for an hour-long set as part of the city's Pride weekend), there is actually a notice on the door that says this:

"This pub holds karaoke on Sunday and Monday evenings. If you dislike karaoke, please feel free to stay, but please be polite to those who do wish to sing. Rude behaviour will not be tolerated. Equally, if you do choose to sing, please do not complain about the equipment used to provide your entertainment. If these rules are unclear, ask the bar staff. If you don't like them, feel free to leave!"

It's sad that this has to be explained.  :(
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Bibliophile on April 10, 2012, 08:29:29 AM
I would be one of those leaving if it was bad karaoke.  It might be fun for the person singing it, but it's not fun for anyone listening.  I'm not going to heckle, but my ears deserve to hear the songs done well.  If I wanted to hear bad singing I can do so for free in my own shower.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Hollanda on April 10, 2012, 08:42:24 AM
I do something, such as go outside to make a phonecall, visit the ladies or go to the bar to buy another drink.  I don't sit around and listen to someone absolutely murder a song I used to like.  I've noticed a room empty when certain people get up to sing. If that ever happened to me, I would start wondering whether or not I really should be showing my "talent" in public!

IME it is awful when you are halfway through a song, enjoying it and not sounding bad, to have someone stand up and shout "Yeah, you're rubbish". There really is no need for it. Appallingly rude.  And it does happen, I've seen it happen.

 :(

(But good news. I got through to the semi final in last night's competition...!)

Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Amalthea on April 10, 2012, 09:26:40 AM
I would be one of those leaving if it was bad karaoke.  It might be fun for the person singing it, but it's not fun for anyone listening.  I'm not going to heckle, but my ears deserve to hear the songs done well.  If I wanted to hear bad singing I can do so for free in my own shower.

Weird.  I've always had fun going with my friends to karaoke, even if it was mostly caterwauling.  I'm starting to feel like I must be doing it wrong.  Culture difference, maybe?
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Yvaine on April 10, 2012, 09:38:56 AM
I would be one of those leaving if it was bad karaoke.  It might be fun for the person singing it, but it's not fun for anyone listening.  I'm not going to heckle, but my ears deserve to hear the songs done well.  If I wanted to hear bad singing I can do so for free in my own shower.

Weird.  I've always had fun going with my friends to karaoke, even if it was mostly caterwauling.  I'm starting to feel like I must be doing it wrong.  Culture difference, maybe?

I'm beginning to think there are two whole different worlds of karaoke, one where it's taken really seriously and you're supposed to be good, and one where it's really informal and the point is to be goofy and have fun. I've pretty much only encountered the latter.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: angilamae on April 10, 2012, 09:42:31 AM
I would far rather watch mediocre to slightly bad karaoke if they are performing and having fun with it (not super horrible) over a good singer who just stands there.  To me karaoke isnt about being a great singer.  it's about having fun.  And at all the places I have gone too people get up and dance and have fun.  Not doing so, is foriegn  to me. 

That said, I do not karoke myself (except once in a private room).  I am not the worst singer but I don't want to make others hear me either.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Bibliophile on April 10, 2012, 09:44:49 AM
I would be one of those leaving if it was bad karaoke.  It might be fun for the person singing it, but it's not fun for anyone listening.  I'm not going to heckle, but my ears deserve to hear the songs done well.  If I wanted to hear bad singing I can do so for free in my own shower.

Weird.  I've always had fun going with my friends to karaoke, even if it was mostly caterwauling.  I'm starting to feel like I must be doing it wrong.  Culture difference, maybe?

I'm beginning to think there are two whole different worlds of karaoke, one where it's taken really seriously and you're supposed to be good, and one where it's really informal and the point is to be goofy and have fun. I've pretty much only encountered the latter.

There might actually be 3: good singers, goofy & fun, and then there's bad.  I don't enjoy watching people who think they're wonderful go up there looking for validation - it's a bit of a buzz kill actually because it's sad and either my heart breaks a bit for the sweet person singing who is under the misguided impression they have talent or I'm doing the huge internal eye roll because they're not just bad, but they're also cocky.  You've got to be in the group of goofy & fun, or the group of good singers to be enjoyable to watch.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Amalthea on April 10, 2012, 09:50:15 AM
I would be one of those leaving if it was bad karaoke.  It might be fun for the person singing it, but it's not fun for anyone listening.  I'm not going to heckle, but my ears deserve to hear the songs done well.  If I wanted to hear bad singing I can do so for free in my own shower.

Weird.  I've always had fun going with my friends to karaoke, even if it was mostly caterwauling.  I'm starting to feel like I must be doing it wrong.  Culture difference, maybe?

I'm beginning to think there are two whole different worlds of karaoke, one where it's taken really seriously and you're supposed to be good, and one where it's really informal and the point is to be goofy and have fun. I've pretty much only encountered the latter.

That must be it. If I get invited to karaoke, I mostly expect shenanigans, whether there's drinking involved or not. I do not go expecting good singing.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Jaelle on April 10, 2012, 10:47:18 AM
I would be one of those leaving if it was bad karaoke.  It might be fun for the person singing it, but it's not fun for anyone listening.  I'm not going to heckle, but my ears deserve to hear the songs done well.  If I wanted to hear bad singing I can do so for free in my own shower.

Weird.  I've always had fun going with my friends to karaoke, even if it was mostly caterwauling.  I'm starting to feel like I must be doing it wrong.  Culture difference, maybe?

It depends on the person, too. I hate bad singing. I can't sing myself, but I have a very good sense of pitch, and this can sound like nails on a chalkboard to me.  :P  Plus I get embarrassed for the person whether or not they're embarrassed, if that makes any sense.

So I don't go to karaoke events. Problem solved. :)  It's my problem, not theirs.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: MasterofSquirrels on April 10, 2012, 12:55:29 PM
I have been to karaoke bars that encouraged people to voice their opinions. It made for an absolute blast! You knew what you were getting into though.

Me? I sing best after much tequila and I stick to Janis Joplin.  ;D  Plus, if it's the right bar, people will sing along and help the ones with an unfortunate voice, or unfortunate song choice.

I haven't been to a serious karaoke event, but, if it were stated as such, or, if the venue is known for its seriousness, clearly anyone that engaged in heckling would be rude.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: #borecore on April 10, 2012, 01:34:44 PM
I like going to karaoke because I like to hear my friends sing. I even like to see entertaining strangers sing.

I hate going to karaoke because I (might) get pushed to sing.

I WILL NOT sing in public (unless I'm tipsy -- and karaoke+drunk has literally only happened once in my life, and it was on a karaoke bus, so everyone else sang along loudly enough to drown me out, and there were no strangers). I am a terrible (terrible!) singer. I know it. My friends know it. And I have stage fright. There is nothing fun about it. It is not fun to be urged to do it. But somehow it's fun for people to urge me to do it. I don't get it.

I am going to a karaoke party on Friday. I plan to act as nonchalant about not singing as possible and hope it doesn't get brought up. From the looks of it, everyone else will have plenty of songs to sing, so I won't get a spot on the roster, anyway.

Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Hollanda on April 10, 2012, 01:39:46 PM
Very good point. It is rude to try to force someone to sing if they do not wish to. I see it constantly. It's awkward.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Jones on April 10, 2012, 02:43:08 PM
This rule is based on my one experience going to a karaoke bar (on my birthday, no less!):

Please, if the five people before you sang tear-in-your-beer breakup songs, for the love of holiness, don't sing another one! I came to have fun on my birthday, not to listen to folks croon out a lament for their ex-whatevers.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Hollanda on April 10, 2012, 03:02:15 PM
This rule is based on my one experience going to a karaoke bar (on my birthday, no less!):

Please, if the five people before you sang tear-in-your-beer breakup songs, for the love of holiness, don't sing another one! I came to have fun on my birthday, not to listen to folks croon out a lament for their ex-whatevers.
Pod.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Zilla on April 10, 2012, 03:07:00 PM
I would be one of those leaving if it was bad karaoke.  It might be fun for the person singing it, but it's not fun for anyone listening.  I'm not going to heckle, but my ears deserve to hear the songs done well.  If I wanted to hear bad singing I can do so for free in my own shower.

Weird.  I've always had fun going with my friends to karaoke, even if it was mostly caterwauling.  I'm starting to feel like I must be doing it wrong.  Culture difference, maybe?

I'm beginning to think there are two whole different worlds of karaoke, one where it's taken really seriously and you're supposed to be good, and one where it's really informal and the point is to be goofy and have fun. I've pretty much only encountered the latter.

There might actually be 3: good singers, goofy & fun, and then there's bad.  I don't enjoy watching people who think they're wonderful go up there looking for validation - it's a bit of a buzz kill actually because it's sad and either my heart breaks a bit for the sweet person singing who is under the misguided impression they have talent or I'm doing the huge internal eye roll because they're not just bad, but they're also cocky.  You've got to be in the group of goofy & fun, or the group of good singers to be enjoyable to watch.


You hit it on the head.   I enjoy when they are just there to have fun and enjoy themselves.  I am too shy unless I have a few drinks under my belt, and I might just might sing with a group. :D


I cringe so much for the people who take it seriously and think they are so good. It's highly uncomfortable.  Or they let a little applause go to there head and think they are da bomb.  I can't tell you how many times I have seen on American Idol the bad singers saying that they won Karaoke contests.  I am like yeah, you were probably the best of the worst?
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Hollanda on April 10, 2012, 03:52:23 PM
It's a lot of fun to some. To me, it's a hobby I enjoy immensely and I'm an ok singer. Singing is therapeutic sometimes.

And really, it matters not a bit to me whether someone is awesome or terrible...if that person is enjoying themselves and their attitude is ok towards other people, good for them for having the nerve to do it. In addition, I.don't care whether people like or dislike my singing - each to their own.

Karaoke is supposed to be fun. When it stops being fun, it's time to stop.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Emmy on April 11, 2012, 06:48:29 AM
Very good point. It is rude to try to force someone to sing if they do not wish to. I see it constantly. It's awkward.

I am with you on that.  Please, please, do not force anybody to sing.  I am a terrible singer and find being on stage an embarrassing experience.  Yet after I tell them this, people will still insist I 'have to' sing. 

I'm with agreement on Hollanda about the general attitude of karaoke.  It is supposed to be fun.  If people really dislike off key singing or want to be a music critic, karaoke isn't the event for them.

My worst experience was just after graduating college, when I was really down about being dumped by a guy I really liked.  We went to an event where there was karaoke and my friend insisted I had to sing "I Will Survive" and that it would be therapeutic for me.  She literally drug me up on stage (and she did stay there with me).  There was no monitor and neither of us knew the words to the song except the chorus.  It was a humiliating experience.  After that, I couldn't look anybody from the crowd in the eye. 
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Hollanda on April 11, 2012, 07:17:10 AM
There was no monitor Emmy?

Even though I do know songs I choose to sing, I still need to know the words are in front of me, or I am liable to just go hugely blank, which is embarrassing. 

Back on subject, it is awkward for everyone in the audience as well as the reluctant singer. Nobody knows where to put their face, and when the song is done, you mostly get a "pity applause" as much as anything else. It's awkward for the DJ as well, because he can usually see several people who do want to sing, yet he's being pushed to choose the one person who doesn't want to sing. It's hideously awkward for the person who does not want to sing...basically, that person is being pushed into the limelight when they really and truly would rather be anywhere else. I feel awful seeing it and admit that I do usually leave the place when that happens.

Like anything else, forcing someone to do something they don't want to do will always end in tears.  :(
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Emmy on April 11, 2012, 01:10:14 PM
My unfortunate experience was at a college event on campus which normally isn't set up for karaoke, so there was a DJ, music, and a little platform stage, but no monitor with the words.  The best thing I can remember about the event is I was very relieved it wasn't well attended.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: WillyNilly on April 13, 2012, 01:25:41 PM
I love to sing and know plenty of songs by heart and sing along in my car or home loudly, proudly and with a smile on my face. But I hate kareoke because in my experience the audience is generaly filled with negative, nasty haters. Yeah I have terrible pitch, and my timing can be a second or two off, but I don't feel I should be made to purposely feel bad about it - which plenty of people try to do. Its supposed to be goofy and fun but I've found it rarely is unless you are a great singer.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: afbluebelle on April 13, 2012, 05:46:01 PM
Info Note: I have a lifetime membership to a karaoke club  ;D


1) If you are in the audience, just clap. If they stank, who cares? It's about having fun... don't harsh someone's day
2) Don't do a song someone just did... it is kinda rude, and really boring. Everyone complains about the radio overplaying stuff, why should you?
3) "Don't Stop Believing" is pretty much always going to be a sing-a-long song. Please don't get huffy if the entire bar/venue starts singing with you and decide to stomp off stage. You just look like a jerk, and a good citizen will jump on stage and save the day, making you look even more like a jerk.
4) If the singing is so bad you can't take it, you can do something else. Son't be a jerk to the person on stage.
5) Please, for the sake of everyone, don't rub the mike on your sweaty groinal region while making fun of an 80's hari band. Yes, it is funny... but my lips have to go near that thing!
6) Don't point you gun at me for singing the song you like before you put it in as a request. I have a gun too... we all do. Moron  ::) (#6 took place in Afghanistan. Unloaded weapon, but seriously? Bloodhound Gang had more than one song, and we had karaoke every week)
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: JonGirl on April 14, 2012, 01:17:42 AM
Info Note: I have a lifetime membership to a karaoke club  ;D


1) If you are in the audience, just clap. If they stank, who cares? It's about having fun... don't harsh someone's day
2) Don't do a song someone just did... it is kinda rude, and really boring. Everyone complains about the radio overplaying stuff, why should you?
3) "Don't Stop Believing" is pretty much always going to be a sing-a-long song. Please don't get huffy if the entire bar/venue starts singing with you and decide to stomp off stage. You just look like a jerk, and a good citizen will jump on stage and save the day, making you look even more like a jerk.
4) If the singing is so bad you can't take it, you can do something else. Son't be a jerk to the person on stage.
5) Please, for the sake of everyone, don't rub the mike on your sweaty groinal region while making fun of an 80's hari band. Yes, it is funny... but my lips have to go near that thing!
6) Don't point you gun at me for singing the song you like before you put it in as a request. I have a gun too... we all do. Moron  ::) (#6 took place in Afghanistan. Unloaded weapon, but seriously? Bloodhound Gang had more than one song, and we had karaoke every week)


Holy Moly!!   :o
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: afbluebelle on April 14, 2012, 04:58:27 PM
Yeah... I get that it was supposed to be a joke, but I was raised around guns. First rule is never point them at something you don't intend on killing.

Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Slartibartfast on April 27, 2012, 12:54:58 AM
A few more:

1) Karaoke singers are there to have fun and maybe to get a little attention.  They are not there to strip for you, dance suggestively, or put themselves up for auction.  Catcalls do NOT help.  (I was at a national convention mostly populated by women, and the karaoke bar at the hotel ended up being mostly drunk middle-aged women and a handful of guys.  I was downright embarrassed for my gender at the way some of the women were treating the men whenever the men got up there to sing.)

2) Just like in any other endeavor, it's important to wait your turn.  Don't chat loudly through everyone else's song and then expect them to be quiet for yours.  Don't have your eleven best friends all sign up individually to sing and then do a dozen songs in a row where you all sing together.  Don't belt out the song when someone else is on stage, unless that's how the karaoke is usually done at that location and the rest of the audience is singing along too.

3) It's karaoke, not a concert.  Don't be upset if your musical rendition failed to stop every nearby conversation in its tracks.  People are obligated to be polite, but they're not obligated to give you their full attention.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Auntie Mame on April 27, 2012, 05:48:07 PM
Info Note: I have a lifetime membership to a karaoke club  ;D


3) "Don't Stop Believing" is pretty much always going to be a sing-a-long song. Please don't get huffy if the entire bar/venue starts singing with you and decide to stomp off stage. You just look like a jerk, and a good citizen will jump on stage and save the day, making you look even more like a jerk.

People get huffy when the audience turns into a sing along?  Heck, half the reason my girlfriends and I sing that song together is because we love it when the audience sings with us! We encourage it.   Honestly, you simply can not expect people to sit quietly during "Don't Stop Believing", or "Living on a Prayer"
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: MellowedOne on June 02, 2012, 04:08:27 PM
I've always thought that karaoke was custom made for those who love to sing but can't  ;D   That's why I love it anyway, LOL!

A few suggestions off the top of my head:
-The worse someone is, the more applause/appreciation you should give.  After all, they know they can't sing worth a lick, and it took courage to get up on the stage?
-If you've got a good voice, for the love of all that's holy please don't restrict your choices to slow songs by Celine Deion, Whitney Houston,etc.  Use those pipes for some of those awesome fast songs us nonsingers are scared to touch!!
-Ease up on the slow songs.
-If you are singing, do not be afraid to add a bit of showmanship!  It's so easy to get positive feedback from an audience, and it is awesome!  One of my favs is 'You Know You Make Me Want To Shout-Otis Day and the Knights' - it really gets the audience involved!
-Please don't choose a song if you only know the refrain.  Do a mental run-through of the song--if you can't think of anything other than the refrain, it is not going to be a good performance.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: Hollanda on June 03, 2012, 04:45:43 AM
If it's a competition and the performer is (understandably) nervous, it doesn't help to shout "She'spricking it!!' or similar. We know, ok?? I felt hideously sorry for a girl that happened to. She forgot half the words     :(
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: BeagleMommy on June 13, 2012, 11:31:05 AM
The karaoke company probably has a long list of songs available.  Choose from the list.  If they don't have the song you're dying to perform your choices are 1) pick something else 2) decline to perform

It is not funny to allow children to sing vulgar songs.  Choose from the children's section for them.

Applaud for every performer.  It just might make their day.  If you are the performer, say thank you for the applause.
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: s on June 13, 2012, 05:14:46 PM
One time I went to a happy hour hang out with some co-workers.  My supervisor was there too though I can't remember if he was actually my supervisor at that time.  He was really cool and always standing up for us lowly employees.  Anyways, there was karaoke and he talked me into doing a song.  I like karaoke and I've learned to let loose more so I was like sure why not.  I did my song and shortly after decided to leave since I'd been there awhile. 

Supervisor says "You're just gonna sing and leave?" and I'm like "Yeah, it's getting late."  And then he says "Oh, well it wasn't that good anyways.  See you later."  And I'm like  :o  Who says that?!  I don't think I'm the best singer, heck I might just totally suck and not know it.  However, if I did suck so bad you'd think my friends could be honest enough with me.  (I've done karaoke with friends before that aren't co-workers so I would think they would've told me by now)
Title: Re: Karaoke Etiquette
Post by: guihong on June 19, 2012, 08:30:27 PM
Karaoke seemed to be a national pastime in China, especially after banquets  ::).  The most requested song?  Yesterday Once More by the Carpenters.   We weren't drinking, but our hosts often had a few Qingdao beers and let me tell you, that was rough.  I'm not one to talk about my singing, even sober, and looking back, some of my best memories of China were in truly atrocious karaoke parties.