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Title: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Jloreli on October 19, 2012, 03:18:52 PM
I just found out I will be in Seattle in early December for a professional conference....Yay! I've never been (or flown but that's another post) and live almost as far across the country as you can get.

What are the in-expensive, local, fun, delicious, interesting things not to be missed in the evenings? I believe we get set free at 5:00 each evening. Ooo and I don't know where they are booking us to stay yet so I can't give you neighborhood to work with.

On the other end of the spectrum what are the things that I needed waste my limited time with? (just there for 3 days)
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Peregrine on October 19, 2012, 03:26:59 PM
Bring your rain boots and raincoat!  :)  Don't bother with an umbrella....its the mark of tourist  ;D

Be sure to check out Pike Place Market.  It's our local year round farmers market.  I am partial to ferry rides myself, so a quick trip over to Bainbridge Island to wander around Winslow is always nice.

If you are a skier you can head up to the mountain passes just an hour or so East of the city and get in a few runs, depending on the weather.

Personally, I think the Space Needle is a waste of money.  If the weather is crummy, which it most likely will be in December, you can't see much, and it's a pretty expensive ride to the top.

If you are into back to nature type things the Seattle Aquarium is nice (though not terribly cheap)  You will get a true taste of PNW aquatic life.  It is right on the waterfront near the ferries.

Ivar's clam chowder is a mainstay for Seattlites, if you are into coffee, the original Starbucks is located in the Pike Market area.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: trailgrrl on October 19, 2012, 03:48:12 PM
Take the bus to Funky Fremont http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremont,_Seattle (ftp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremont,_Seattle). See the Troll, See the statue of Lenin, have dinner at Jai Thai (mmmmmjaithaimmmmm).

I agree, the Space Needle is like 25 bucks now and with the weather rolling you won't be able to see a thing. Also avoid the Duck Tour.    I do recommend the Underground Seattle Tour http://www.undergroundtour.com/ (ftp://www.undergroundtour.com/) And Experience Music Project http://www.empsfm.org/ (ftp://www.empsfm.org/)

and of course The Pike Place Market :)

Metro is pretty easy to get around on
http://tripplanner.kingcounty.gov/cgi-bin/itin_page.pl?resptype=U (ftp://tripplanner.kingcounty.gov/cgi-bin/itin_page.pl?resptype=U)

In December they will have the Carousel set up in Westlake in the center of Downtown and it is very pretty at night.  Which will be at about 4:30 PM in December.

PM me if you have any questions

Trailgrrl
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Sirius on October 19, 2012, 03:51:53 PM
I'm in the Portland area, and practically everyone here carries an umbrella during the rainy season.  I've even seen people in the outfits of various ethnic groups carrying umbrellas, so I don't entirely agree that an umbrella makes a person look like a tourist.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: GratefulMaria on October 19, 2012, 03:54:23 PM
Used bookstores!  I try to find one anywhere I visit.  http://recollectionbooks.com/seattle.html for starters, Google for more.

DS1 visited a few years ago and loved the troll and Lenin!  Is Lenin still for sale?

Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Wulfie on October 19, 2012, 04:08:43 PM
It may be that way in Portland but it is true that in Seattle only tourists carry umbrellas.

If you get a chance and want a fun tour, take the Ride The Duck. I have never laughed so much in my life!

Pike Place Market is a must. If you like ghost stories, take the Ghost Tour of the Market, it is in the evening so the place is starting to shut down for the night. Very fun and a bit creepy. The market will also be decorated for the holidays.

I agree to save your money on the Space Needle, it is overhyped. If you want a great view of the town, go to the Columbia Tower observation level.

The Underground Tour is a bit overhyped as well. You don't really see much other than tunnels and dusty basements. The stories are fun and if you take the Over 21 tour it includes a drink in the bar afterwards.

PM me if you want to meet up while you are here, I live by the airport so if you end up at one of the hotels out there (which is pretty common for training) I am not far away.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: sevenday on October 19, 2012, 06:14:25 PM
I live a couple hours south of Seattle.  I agree with many of the above comments. In December, the Needle won't be worth the $$ to the top.  Try the Columbia -oh someone beat me to that too.  I skipped the Underground Tour- it really depends on who you have as your tour guide, it seems.  Skip the umbrella, do wear a nice thick jacket and water-resistant shoes.  Pike Place market is fun any time of the year, but it can get hot and stuffy in there at times, so keep that in mind.  The Seattle Science Center can be a fun way to waste a few hours- they close at 5 pm, but the King Tut exhibit is there right now and their final entry is at 7 pm.  The IMAX theater there also has some shows after 5 pm.  I second the suggestion to try Ivar's. Some of them now have the Coke Freestyle machines.   The Duck tour, I've heard, is fun - not sure if it would be too cold/damp in winter. 
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Shoo on October 19, 2012, 06:28:27 PM
Bring your rain boots and raincoat!  :)  Don't bother with an umbrella....its the mark of tourist  ;D


Not true.  I am born and raised in the PNW and I (and everyone I know) carries an umbrella when it's raining.  That's one of the myths "locals" like to spread about this area.  :)  I have lived in or around Seattle for a long time.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: sevenday on October 19, 2012, 06:31:09 PM
The main reason I say skip the umbrella is this: everyone else will have one, so you can take advantage. That, and they're annoying and easy to lose - plus if it gets really windy down the "wind tunnels" of certain streets in the city, it'll be more or less useless.  While we're discussing legends, Shoo-  don't forget the one about Seattleites all having webbed feet!
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: kareng57 on October 19, 2012, 06:47:57 PM
Bring your rain boots and raincoat!  :)  Don't bother with an umbrella....its the mark of tourist  ;D


Not true.  I am born and raised in the PNW and I (and everyone I know) carries an umbrella when it's raining.  That's one of the myths "locals" like to spread about this area.  :)  I have lived in or around Seattle for a long time.


I too am in a rainy city near the PNW - and almost every pedestrian carries an umbrella on rainy or uncertain days.  No one would want to get soaked simply to avoid looking like a tourist.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Bramble on October 19, 2012, 07:43:37 PM
I think the whole "only tourists use umbrellas" comes from the many PNW natives who will chose to just wear a good raincoat with a hood and avoid the hassle of an umbrella.  When we say no to umbrellas we're not saying go out in the rain and get soaked.  Its just that there's often enough wind that the rain defeats the umbrella, so a coat is needed to not get wet, and with a good enough coat you stay dry enough that the umbrella just seems like an hassle.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: bbgirl on October 20, 2012, 01:58:12 AM
If Marrakesh is still open up there that's a fun spot for some really good food!
 It was ten years ago but it's been awhile since I've ventured North, plus there's one in Portland that I can get to faster :)
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: cass2591 on October 20, 2012, 02:09:04 AM
I don't carry an umbrella, actually never really have, since I tend to lose them. I must say that I've never thought anyone with an umbrella screamed "tourist" but then again so what if they are.

Seems to me it drizzles more than it pours, like in that show "The Killing". I've seen it pour like that for a couple of days but that show gave the impression the rain never stopped. It does.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: GratefulMaria on October 20, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
DS1 is in his fourth year at school in Portland.  He went to Pittsburgh and felt really conspicuous being the only one without an umbrella when it rained.  I, umm, sort of picked on him and told him he must really stand out as a tourist.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: lilfox on October 20, 2012, 01:52:23 PM
I think the whole "only tourists use umbrellas" comes from the many PNW natives who will chose to just wear a good raincoat with a hood and avoid the hassle of an umbrella.  When we say no to umbrellas we're not saying go out in the rain and get soaked.  Its just that there's often enough wind that the rain defeats the umbrella, so a coat is needed to not get wet, and with a good enough coat you stay dry enough that the umbrella just seems like an hassle.

This.  I know when I moved here, and the rains started in October, I was surprised to find that most rainy days, it was really just drizzle.  Drizzle (to me) isn't worth breaking out the umbrella for, but is worth investing in a good hat.  The relatively few days of hard rain, sometimes it's worth having an umbrella and others, it is so windy an umbrella ends up being a hassle.

In addition to the other good suggestions here, i recommend finding a place to eat around south Lake Union, especially on the lakefront.  The view can be really nice, with seaplanes coming and going (though in Dec as mentioned, darkness hits by 4-4:30...).  And in addition to the original Starbucks, there is the original Nordstrom downtown.   :)
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Auntie Mame on October 20, 2012, 02:17:45 PM
Bring your rain boots and raincoat!  :)  Don't bother with an umbrella....its the mark of tourist  ;D


Not true.  I am born and raised in the PNW and I (and everyone I know) carries an umbrella when it's raining.  That's one of the myths "locals" like to spread about this area.  :)  I have lived in or around Seattle for a long time.

Born and raised as well.  Never carried an umbrealla, very few people I know do, and they are newbies.  I have been stabbed by many a tourist carying an umbrella.  ;D

If you are here on the first Thursday of the month, check out the art walk in Pioneer Square.  It's free and has tons of fantastic local artists.  Also, SAM (Seattle Art Museum) is free on first Thursday.

Check out Bleu Bistro on Capitol Hill, the Lavendar Cosmopolitan is the best cocktail in the city.

The Pacific Science Center is AWESOME (not just for kids, I have tons of fun there as an adult) and right now they have  king Tutu exhibit.  Check out the laser light shows as well.

The Elysian Brewery, great beer and amazing food. 

Go see the Troll under the Aurora Bridge in Fremont.   While your there, eat at Blue C Sushi (gluten free tamari on request!)

Central Cinema in the Central District is a 21 and under movie theatre that shows classic movies (from every decade) and serves beer and food while you sit at tables.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Jloreli on October 22, 2012, 10:30:15 AM
Yay! Thanks everyone! :D I hope that they will release us from the conference early enough in the day for me to take advantage of your excellent suggestions.....though I must remember that it is the reason for the trip.  :P  Rumor has it we will be in session until 5 every day.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Peregrine on October 22, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
I think the whole "only tourists use umbrellas" comes from the many PNW natives who will chose to just wear a good raincoat with a hood and avoid the hassle of an umbrella.  When we say no to umbrellas we're not saying go out in the rain and get soaked.  Its just that there's often enough wind that the rain defeats the umbrella, so a coat is needed to not get wet, and with a good enough coat you stay dry enough that the umbrella just seems like an hassle.

This is what I probably should have said, rather than trying to be tongue in cheek about the umbrella issue.  I live in a hooded Goretex rain coat most of the year, so an umbrella tends to be an unneccesary encumberance for me.  I also tend to think that they are difficult to deal with when one is travelling. It really just tends to be a constant damp drizzle, not so much a downpour. 

I do hope you enjoy your trip to the fair city of Seattle!  Fremont is great.....there is an awesome Greek restaurant over there too....Costas Opa, try the Lemonato.  If you want to enjoy some holiday shopping you can hit Westlake Center for some shopping, and I believe there is even ice skating.  If you are of the outdoorsy persuasion you can make your way to the flagship REI store (my very sporty BIL refers to it as the Mothership of all sporting goods).
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: nuit93 on October 22, 2012, 06:00:36 PM
Definitely check out the King Tut exhibit at the Pacific Science Center.  Worth every penny!

I should warn you though, if it snows the whole city will shut down.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Auntie Mame on October 23, 2012, 10:45:46 AM

I should warn you though, if it snows the whole city will shut down.

That's because it's all hills around and when it snows it becomes straight up dangerous to be out.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: nuit93 on October 23, 2012, 11:18:06 AM

I should warn you though, if it snows the whole city will shut down.

That's because it's all hills around and when it snows it becomes straight up dangerous to be out.

Believe me, I know :)

Wasn't saying it was a bad thing, just something to keep in mind.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: kareng57 on October 23, 2012, 11:48:59 AM

I should warn you though, if it snows the whole city will shut down.

That's because it's all hills around and when it snows it becomes straight up dangerous to be out.

Believe me, I know :)

Wasn't saying it was a bad thing, just something to keep in mind.


And there are a couple of other reasons - PNW cities simply don't have the snow-removal resources compared to cities where snow is a regular winter occurrence.  Major arterial roads will likely be sanded/plowed - but by the time they reach more local roads, the snow is likely all gone.

Also - drivers who don't know how to drive in the snow but insist on trying anyway.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: 2doglady on October 23, 2012, 01:53:05 PM
Also because the snow on the roads almost immediately turn to ice.  Seattle native here.,
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Jloreli on October 23, 2012, 02:38:06 PM
Interesting....I'm from Vermont so I'm snow friendly....people will think I'm nuts if I go walking in it hmmm?
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: nuit93 on October 23, 2012, 08:15:29 PM
Interesting....I'm from Vermont so I'm snow friendly....people will think I'm nuts if I go walking in it hmmm?

Walking?  Not in the least.  I just don't recommend driving in it :)
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: pearls n purls on October 23, 2012, 08:34:41 PM
Another vote for Pacific Science Center.

If you're a fan of Jimi Hendrix, check out the EMP (Experience Music Project.)   If you're not a fan, it's probably overpriced.

There's a brand new ferris wheel on the waterfront.

And the top of the Space Needle recently went from white to orange and will be painted green soon.

If you can see a show, the Paramount Theater is beautiful.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: kareng57 on October 23, 2012, 09:17:23 PM
Interesting....I'm from Vermont so I'm snow friendly....people will think I'm nuts if I go walking in it hmmm?


No - just be aware that PNW snow is different.  It's generally wet, as opposed to dry East-coast snow, and as a PP said - because the temperature generally (no, not "never") doesn't plunge much below freezing, you tend to get cycles of quick thawing/freezing again - therefore, ice.

You probably won't need them, but you might want to think about packing those bracey-things that you can attach to the soles of your boots or shoes, just in case.  I don't live in Seattle, but I'm sure that there are bylaws that mandate that every home/business owner clear/salt the sidewalk in front of their premises.  However, where I live not everyone does this as quickly as they should.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Shoo on October 23, 2012, 09:24:16 PM
This winter is predicted to be wet, windy, and rather mild. (El Nino). I'd be surprised if we got much, if any, snow this year.
Title: Re: Seattle in December.....advice?
Post by: Jloreli on November 05, 2012, 03:59:53 PM
Looks like we will be right down town.....Pikes Place Market and the King Tut exhibit are on my hot list......and my favorite SIL will likely be in town on business as well!