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Title: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) NEW PIC #133!
Post by: Shoo on November 18, 2012, 11:45:41 AM
I've had several cats in my lifetime, but they have always come to me litterbox trained, and eating kitten food, totally weaned.  Today I am probably going to be bringing home 2 feral kittens, who have been living in a garden shed since they were born.

I'm not really sure what my plan is.  I think I'll run out and get a pen to enclose them in so they don't feel totally overwhelmed.  I will drape towels/blankets over the sides and remove them gradually to enlarge their world as they get accustomed to us.  How does that sound?

I suppose just steering them to a small litterbox is about all I will need to do to get them trained in using it.

What kind of food should I get them?

Any advice here?  I want these kittens to have an awesome life with us, and I'm pretty sure starting out on the right foot will be important.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: wolfie on November 18, 2012, 12:01:54 PM
I've had several cats in my lifetime, but they have always come to me litterbox trained, and eating kitten food, totally weaned.  Today I am probably going to be bringing home 2 feral kittens, who have been living in a garden shed since they were born.

I'm not really sure what my plan is.  I think I'll run out and get a pen to enclose them in so they don't feel totally overwhelmed.  I will drape towels/blankets over the sides and remove them gradually to enlarge their world as they get accustomed to us.  How does that sound?

I suppose just steering them to a small litterbox is about all I will need to do to get them trained in using it.

What kind of food should I get them?

Any advice here?  I want these kittens to have an awesome life with us, and I'm pretty sure starting out on the right foot will be important.

I have some great documents on how to tame feral cats. Your idea of enclosure is a good idea - I would recommend a dog crate. You want it to be big enough for a litterbox, a carrier and some room for them to play without being in the litterbox or carrier. Most likely they will use the litterbox instinctively - if not put any poop in the box and bury it - that's how Kiana figured out that was what the litterbox was for. If they really don't get it then put dirt in the box  - they should know what the dirt is for.

Make sure they are in a quiet place in the house - someplace where they feel safe. Interact with them multiple times per day. At first they will probably run into their carrier for safety (that's what it is there for) but once  they realize you aren't a danger they will come out and interact. The younger the kittens are the easier it will be. The recommended method is to bribe them with food. Meat baby food (make sure it only has meat - no onions) is what most people use.

Bring in the baby food an a small plate. Talk to them a few minutes and let them know you aren't going to hurt them - get them used to your voice and presence. When you are ready to leave pop open the baby food (you want a distinctive noise so they can associate it with good stuff) put it on the plate, put it in the cage, close the cage door and leave. After a few sessions stay a little bit so they can decide to come out while you are there and the door is closed. The goal is that they see you as a sign of good things to come and are happy to see you. I pasted a link but feel free to pm me if you have questions or anything. I can point you to an awesome yahoo group for feral cat taming.

http://www.feralcat.com/taming.html
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Bijou on November 18, 2012, 01:09:21 PM
I have nothing to add as Wolfie's post seems right on to me. 
These are lucky kitties to be coming to you with your loving concern.  I wanted to say thanks for taking these little guys into your home. 
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Shoo on November 18, 2012, 02:17:04 PM
Thanks for all the great info!  I don't have a dog crate, but what I have is a pet "play pen" with metal bars that a kitty can't really climb up too easily.

We're on our way out the door right now to go see them.  I'll post pics when we get a chance later today!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Shoo on November 18, 2012, 05:21:39 PM
So we are home with our new kittens!  It was instant love.  They are so cute, although they were filthy and terrified.  When we got them home we thought it best to just go ahead and give them a bath, since they were already a little traumatized.  Get it all out of the way.

Here is Sissy Cat before her first bath:
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/Sissybeforebath.jpg)

During her bath:
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/Sissygetsabath.jpg)

And Sissy all clean:
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/Sissyallclean.jpg)

Tiger Kitty before his first bath:
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/Tigerbeforebath.jpg)

Tiger during his bath:
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/Tigergetsabath.jpg)

And Tiger all clean:
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/Tigerallclean.jpg)

Both of them keeping warm after their baths:
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/SissyandTigerallcleanandsnuggly.jpg)

They are now in their carrier, inside the playpen.  They're sleeping at the moment.  I reckon it's going to be a while before they are brave enough to venture out of the carrier, but when they do, there's food and fresh water waiting for them.  Poor little critters.  So precious.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: wolfie on November 18, 2012, 05:26:05 PM
So cute! They look young enough that you probably won't need a lot of taming time with them! I was expecting much older kittens. Just keep talking to them and interacting with them - they will have you wrapped around their paws in no time. :-)

Are you sure Tiger Kitty is a him? Looks like a Tiger Calico and most of them are female.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Ms_Cellany on November 18, 2012, 05:34:26 PM
Adorable!  And I echo that Tiger is probably a girl, because of the calico.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: JoW on November 18, 2012, 05:42:24 PM
Human baby food may not be nutritionally right for kittens.  I would go to the nearest pet store and get canned kitten food.  You can wait a few days.  Anything you give them can't help but be better than the 1/2 dead sparrows and other small critters their mother was probably feeding them.

Its not easy to tell tiny boy kittens from tiny girl kittens.  Have the vet check the first time you take them in.  Do that soon.  Many feral animals have digestive worms.  The vet will check in that first visit.  And if worms are found the vet will teach you how to squirt wormer in their mouths.  There's a trick to keep them from spitting it out. 
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Bijou on November 18, 2012, 07:35:25 PM
They are adorable!  There must be some trust if you were able to bathe them without mishap! 
My sister named her cat Ethyl and found later that it was a male.  He was Ethyl, anyway.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Outdoor Girl on November 18, 2012, 08:54:48 PM
*sqeeeeee*

I can't believe you got through the bathing in one piece!  Agree with the others that a trip to the vet asap is in order.  If you can take some of their feces with you, they can do a worm check, that way, too.  And I also agree that at their age, they won't need much taming.  They'll probably settle right in.  Warm?  Food?  Less scary noises?  SCORE!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Reika on November 18, 2012, 09:15:26 PM
The poor things look a little shellshocked, but I bet they were grateful to have the nastiness off of them, which is probably why they didn't fight too much.

So adorable though!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Venus193 on November 18, 2012, 09:25:15 PM
Awwwwwwww!  How adorable they are!  Give them some toys to attack and lots of cuddles.  Such cuteness!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: greencat on November 18, 2012, 09:39:56 PM
At that age, instead of trying the hands-off-give-them-space method of feral taming, you can just set yourself up as "replacement mommy."  Means lots of snuggling and maybe even some kitten milk to really give them that "this is the new mama" sense. 

Tiger is something like 99% likely to be female, and almost certainly sterile if not (my parents actually did have a naturally sterile dilute longhair tortoiseshell male - gorgeous, but dumb as a box of rocks.)

If you are going to feed human baby food, you will still need to get them some form of cat-specific vitamins - the meat flavored gels generally go over well, but you may have to experiment with different brands to find the one they try to eat your fingers for.  Err, watch out for your fingers when you give them the vitamin gel.  Kitten teeth are sharp.

Kittens are so much easier to house train than puppies.  Just watch them to make sure they aren't eating the litter, and switch to a pine-based one if they do.  I've seen cats have pica incidents with every type of litter but pine.


Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Jocelyn on November 18, 2012, 10:11:26 PM
I tamed a litter of ferals a few years back. I kept them in my bathroom, and would go in several times a day to sit and talk with them to get them used to my voice. I would take in toys to play with them but be careful not to leave anything they can get tangled up in! They liked to pounce on strings, but I always carried the strings out with me. I would handle them whether they wanted to be petted or not. One of them was a hiss-monster, and I would tell her, 'You know what hissing gets you?' and pick her up and cuddle her until she would purr.
They still live with me (it wasn't as easy to find them homes as I thought it would be!) and all are very satisfactory pets, if somewhat shy of company. I'd really encourage you to have cat-loving friends help you with the taming, so that they don't learn to be shy of all humans except for you, like my Gang of Four are.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Elfmama on November 18, 2012, 10:46:59 PM
Yes, socialization is very important.  Even if the kittens hide at first, letting them hear non-threatening human voices will help.

How old do you think they are?  From the pictures, I can tell that they aren't tiny babies.  My wild guess would be 10-12 weeks old, so kitten milk replacer is probably unnecessary.  I'd go with a good quality dry kitten chow for a balanced diet, maybe canned food once a day, and the suggested baby meat as a treat to get them to associate you with Good Things, not the main component of their diet.  Do NOT give them cows' milk right away.  Many cats have diarrhea  if they drink cows' milk, and their little tummies will have enough to do to adjust from mice to dry food.

(As an aside, meat baby food is one of those things that even a seriously ill cat will eat, even if they're refusing other foods.)

How fast they tame down may come down to their own personalities.  The stray kitten currently sleeping in my downstairs bathroom was reported to be a feral, but if so he's the most people-loving feral I've ever heard of!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Shoo on November 18, 2012, 11:40:33 PM
So much to learn about these kittens!

Someone told me that Tiger is a diluted tortie.  Is that the same as calico?  His colors sort of run together, and aren't splotchy like calicos I've seen.

If he's not a boy, oh well!  But I just looked, and honestly, I can't tell.  I *think* I feel some little bits down there, but he's got so much hair that it's really hard to tell.  Might have to wait for the vet to give us a definitive answer on that one.

I am so happy to hear that we should hold them and love them (be like their mama).  That's what I WANT to do, but others have said to let them acclimate on their own terms.  So I think I'll take the hands on approach.  That's going to make my daughter very happy.  She just wants to crawl into their pen and hold them.  She probably wants to sleep in there with them!

I gave them some wet food a little while ago, and those poor babies devoured it. Ate and ate and ate.  I know the people watching out for them had provided dry food for their mama, and she was introducing her kittens to it, so they've probably had a little dry food before, but I know this was their first time eating wet food. 

As for their age, I think they're about 6 weeks.  The little girl is 24.95 ounces right now, and the little boy(?) is 19.55 ounces.  I looked at the weight chart for the Spice Kittens and the girl's weight puts her right in line with them, at about 6 weeks old.  The boy kitten is a little smaller, but I am going to work on putting some weight on him.

They are surprisingly tame considering they've lived outside their whole lives.  We feel very lucky to have them.  They are so cute. Haven't made a peep yet, and I can't wait to hear their meows!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Elfmama on November 19, 2012, 12:38:07 AM
At that age, both wet and dry food, then.  Even if they don't eat much of the dry food, that gives them something to crunch down on for the teeth that they're cutting. Most of the dry kitten foods can be moistened with a little water, too, if soft food suits them better.  My kittens always waded in to the dish with both front feet.

They're young enough that socialization will do wonders for them.  Get as many different types of people in to see them as you can. Men, women, kids.  Have them hold and pet and play with the kittens, maybe offer a little bit of baby food on the tips of their fingers if the kittens are shy.

This should be only a few minutes at first.  Let the kitten lead the way.  If they struggle to get down, hold them a few seconds more and then let them loose.  This lets them know that you aren't trying to hurt them, but you ARE in control.

The more you hold and cuddle and play with them, the tighter they will bond to you.  It's the kittens that are left alone who tend to be stand-offish as adults.  (It used to be that 'experts' would tell you that kittens should not be played with, because somehow that was thought to harm them.) They do need naps, just like all babies, so it doesn't need to be someone holding them all the time.

I always started my Siamese kittens on this kind of socialization as newborns, even.  It was only a few seconds at a time at first, stroking them with one finger and talking to them quietly, but it set the pattern for kitten-human interaction.  One of my favorite memories is DH cuddling a newborn kitten and murmuring "Welcome to the world, little one."  :)   Then back in the nest-box before their mother had a hissy fit.  (Believe me, Siamese can throw major-league hissies.)  Usually she wasn't worried anyway.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: delabela on November 19, 2012, 01:31:24 AM
They are super cute!  I'm sitting here with my once feral buddy snoozing right next to me. 
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: mechtilde on November 19, 2012, 03:22:48 AM
Yes, diluted tortie is effectively the same as calico. It just means that they are a tortie or a calico who also has the dilute gene. If they were black and carried the dilute gene they would be grey, and so on.

Don't worry too much about genders though-the only real practical difference is that females are slightly more expensive to neuter!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: wolfie on November 19, 2012, 09:14:09 AM
Human baby food may not be nutritionally right for kittens.  I would go to the nearest pet store and get canned kitten food.  You can wait a few days.  Anything you give them can't help but be better than the 1/2 dead sparrows and other small critters their mother was probably feeding them.

Its not easy to tell tiny boy kittens from tiny girl kittens.  Have the vet check the first time you take them in.  Do that soon.  Many feral animals have digestive worms.  The vet will check in that first visit.  And if worms are found the vet will teach you how to squirt wormer in their mouths.  There's a trick to keep them from spitting it out.

I should have mentioned that the human baby food is for a special treat to associate the humans with really good and special stuff.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: wolfie on November 19, 2012, 09:16:22 AM
So much to learn about these kittens!

Someone told me that Tiger is a diluted tortie.  Is that the same as calico?  His colors sort of run together, and aren't splotchy like calicos I've seen.

If he's not a boy, oh well!  But I just looked, and honestly, I can't tell.  I *think* I feel some little bits down there, but he's got so much hair that it's really hard to tell.  Might have to wait for the vet to give us a definitive answer on that one.

I am so happy to hear that we should hold them and love them (be like their mama).  That's what I WANT to do, but others have said to let them acclimate on their own terms.  So I think I'll take the hands on approach.  That's going to make my daughter very happy.  She just wants to crawl into their pen and hold them.  She probably wants to sleep in there with them!

I gave them some wet food a little while ago, and those poor babies devoured it. Ate and ate and ate.  I know the people watching out for them had provided dry food for their mama, and she was introducing her kittens to it, so they've probably had a little dry food before, but I know this was their first time eating wet food. 

As for their age, I think they're about 6 weeks.  The little girl is 24.95 ounces right now, and the little boy(?) is 19.55 ounces.  I looked at the weight chart for the Spice Kittens and the girl's weight puts her right in line with them, at about 6 weeks old.  The boy kitten is a little smaller, but I am going to work on putting some weight on him.

They are surprisingly tame considering they've lived outside their whole lives.  We feel very lucky to have them.  They are so cute. Haven't made a peep yet, and I can't wait to hear their meows!

These guys are so young that the hands off method isn't necessary. Since you already gave them a bath they seem pretty tame already! I would make sure they are locked in a room they can't get into too much trouble in, but other then that start integrating them as part of the family already. The locking in a room is only because they are tiny enough to get into places you wouldn't expect them too! It will be easier to find them if you know they have to be in there somewhere.

Good luck! They are adorable.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Ms_Cellany on November 19, 2012, 09:37:23 AM
Tiger is indeed a dilute tortoiseshell. The genetics are the same as for a calico: The X chromosome carries a gene that codes for either black or orange, so to have both colors, you need two X chromosomes. (Very rarely you get an XXY male.)

A calico has the colors in large blotches, with a lot of white. A tortie has little or no white, and the colors tend to be more brindled.  A separate gene controls the intensity of the color (No dilution -> black and orange; dilution -> gray and tan).
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Shoo on November 19, 2012, 10:30:59 AM
Tiger is indeed a dilute tortoiseshell. The genetics are the same as for a calico: The X chromosome carries a gene that codes for either black or orange, so to have both colors, you need two X chromosomes. (Very rarely you get an XXY male.)

A calico has the colors in large blotches, with a lot of white. A tortie has little or no white, and the colors tend to be more brindled.  A separate gene controls the intensity of the color (No dilution -> black and orange; dilution -> gray and tan).

So good to know!  I guess we have 2 little girls (unless the black and white one is actually a boy -- guess I should double check that!).

The play pen I got to contain them has failed.  We had The Great Kitten Escape of 2012 last night.  I was awakened at 5 a.m. to a kitten crying in my bathroom off the master.  She (formerly he) was hissing and clawing to get away from me, but I calmed her down by holding her to my chest and petting her.  I put her back in the pen and noticed the other one was gone too.  No sooner had I put Tiger down than she squeezed herself out the backside of the pen and she was gone again.  Sigh.

I found Sissy under the recliner, put her back, but that didn't last long either.

So I'm taking the pen back (what good is it?) and I guess I'll kitty-proof my craft room and put them in there.  I just liked having them in the living room where I could see them and be around them all the time.

P.S.  They are quick little things.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: magicdomino on November 19, 2012, 10:45:42 AM


P.S.  They are quick little things.

Yes, they are!   ;D
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: wolfie on November 19, 2012, 10:53:45 AM
Tiger is indeed a dilute tortoiseshell. The genetics are the same as for a calico: The X chromosome carries a gene that codes for either black or orange, so to have both colors, you need two X chromosomes. (Very rarely you get an XXY male.)

A calico has the colors in large blotches, with a lot of white. A tortie has little or no white, and the colors tend to be more brindled.  A separate gene controls the intensity of the color (No dilution -> black and orange; dilution -> gray and tan).

So good to know!  I guess we have 2 little girls (unless the black and white one is actually a boy -- guess I should double check that!).

The play pen I got to contain them has failed.  We had The Great Kitten Escape of 2012 last night.  I was awakened at 5 a.m. to a kitten crying in my bathroom off the master.  She (formerly he) was hissing and clawing to get away from me, but I calmed her down by holding her to my chest and petting her.  I put her back in the pen and noticed the other one was gone too.  No sooner had I put Tiger down than she squeezed herself out the backside of the pen and she was gone again.  Sigh.

I found Sissy under the recliner, put her back, but that didn't last long either.

So I'm taking the pen back (what good is it?) and I guess I'll kitty-proof my craft room and put them in there.  I just liked having them in the living room where I could see them and be around them all the time.

P.S.  They are quick little things.

Seeing and being around them is a good idea - can you cat proof the living room so you can put them in there when you are there? My living room is an big open room so I couldn't do that. If that is the case could you temporarily move into the craft room for what you usually do in the living room? For kittens that young I don't see this taking too long - especially since they let you pick them up! I have had Blazen for 5 years and he still doesn't let me pick him up. His brother on the other hand loves being carried around - go figure.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Shoo on November 19, 2012, 11:46:07 AM
Our house is kind of "open concept."  The bedrooms are the only rooms that could possibly be kitten proofed.  I'll just have to make a point of spending my free time up there.  That means moving my computer up there, which is no problem.

I stuffed blankets and towels around every opening I could think of to keep them from finding hiding places.  It took about 3 seconds for them to find the weak spot in the fortress.  They're now behind the trundle bed.  I'm thinking of just taking all the barricades out and letting them hide as long as they want to.  They have food and water, and a litter box up there.  I reckon they'll get hungry eventually!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: wolfie on November 19, 2012, 12:06:03 PM
Our house is kind of "open concept."  The bedrooms are the only rooms that could possibly be kitten proofed.  I'll just have to make a point of spending my free time up there.  That means moving my computer up there, which is no problem.

I stuffed blankets and towels around every opening I could think of to keep them from finding hiding places.  It took about 3 seconds for them to find the weak spot in the fortress.  They're now behind the trundle bed.  I'm thinking of just taking all the barricades out and letting them hide as long as they want to.  They have food and water, and a litter box up there.  I reckon they'll get hungry eventually!

There are pros and cons to that method. For older ferals (especially adults) you want to make sure that they have a safe place to go, but that they are forced to interact with you and realize you aren't a threat. That is why the carrier is in a cage - a safe place but they can't 100% get away. For these kittens you want to make sure they interact with you as much as possible - the earlier you start the socializing the easier it is and the more likely it is to work. So you want to make sure that they have some place to hide, but you don't want whereever that is to be so far that you can't get at them. Also I really do recommend bring in baby food with you. Make them see your coming into the room as a special treat because you bring them special food.

They will come out when they get hungry enough - but you want to make sure that isn't the only time they come out.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Jones on November 19, 2012, 12:30:54 PM
How do you feel about having someone sleep in the kitten room, on a cot? It's a passive way to get the kitty to get used to humans, and choose to reach out. My Shadow started out life partially feral (my sister found her hiding in an unused pipe), and in her old age has gotten paranoid and often hides out in her "castle", but if she's in the same room as someone sleeping/trying to sleep she will pull the sleep-on-you heavy kitty maneuver. When the sleeper wakes and pets her she sticks around.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: EMuir on November 19, 2012, 12:38:37 PM
Good for you for saving them!

Remember to not give them any baby food with onion in it, that's harmful to cats and dogs.

A safe food would be to cook chicken and rice and feed them that.  There is an official "weaning food" available at pet stores, but really any soft canned cat food will do, it doesn't even have to be specifically for kittens.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: sevenday on November 19, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
Aww what cute little babies.  And yeah, giving them the bath while they were still shell shocked was probably a good idea since you survived.  Around here that would have been a blood bath.  Kittens DO escape... I tried to keep my last cat (now 5 years old) in my master bathroom with a baby gate across the door to keep him from being eaten alive by the two older cats, who were NOT happy about having a kitten in the house.  That lasted... I want to say four days.  Then I woke up to see a dark blob teetering on top of the gate.  It disappeared, and then reappeared clawing its way up the end of the blanket that trailed to the floor.  I tried valiantly, but the next day we had to just take the gate down and hope.  Thankfully, he was not eaten, and has grown into a handsome boy. 

Despite the hissing and clawing, spending peaceful periods of time with them is helpful.  even if they are behind furniture.  Go out, sit on the floor, trail a string around and talk to them.  Read aloud from books maybe.  Just be "there" and eventually they will come to you, especially if you are the bearer of noms.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Shoo on November 19, 2012, 09:16:33 PM
I had to move them to my spare bedroom, where they seem much happier and much more relaxed.  They still want to hide, but we are spending a lot of time holding them, talking to them, petting, feeding treats, etc.  It seems to be working!

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/photo8.jpg)

They really are cuddle bunnies.  One day soon they're going to be the snuggliest kitties ever.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Surianne on November 19, 2012, 09:28:11 PM
What sweethearts.  I have no advice, but just wanted to chime in to say it's awesome you're giving them a home, and please keep the stories and photos coming!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Ms_Cellany on November 19, 2012, 09:44:28 PM
Awwww....armpit kittens are the best!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Pippen on November 19, 2012, 10:18:55 PM
The photos are so cute. You are a braver woman than me in giving a cat a bath. Full credit.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!)
Post by: Venus193 on November 19, 2012, 10:19:58 PM
That is so sweet!  Your little tuxie could be related to my Carmen.  Tuxies are very smart kitties, so be sure to provide lots of toys.
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Post by: furrcats on November 20, 2012, 02:12:44 AM
Lovely photos
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Post by: Jones on November 20, 2012, 07:09:18 AM
Ack the furry cuteness! I'm in love!
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Post by: Shoo on November 20, 2012, 10:10:44 AM
I went to the store and got some tiny jars of meaty baby food and some baby spoons.

According to their reactions, it is the BEST TREAT EVER!

Every time I enter the room, unless it is an actual meal time, I give them each a little spoonful of this baby food.  This morning, one of them actually approached me.  She actually came over to where I was sitting.  First time!  Of course, she went right back under the bed, but it's another baby step.
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Post by: wolfie on November 20, 2012, 10:14:43 AM
I went to the store and got some tiny jars of meaty baby food and some baby spoons.

According to their reactions, it is the BEST TREAT EVER!

Every time I enter the room, unless it is an actual meal time, I give them each a little spoonful of this baby food.  This morning, one of them actually approached me.  She actually came over to where I was sitting.  First time!  Of course, she went right back under the bed, but it's another baby step.

That is excellent progress!
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Post by: Venus193 on November 20, 2012, 10:27:20 AM
That is fabulous news!
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Post by: Reika on November 20, 2012, 11:24:42 AM
At least they're easy to bribe. :)
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Post by: ladyknight1 on November 20, 2012, 11:38:02 AM
My Harley was a feral kitten. Congrats, Shoo!
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Post by: finecabernet on November 20, 2012, 12:45:14 PM
Congrats to you! Feral cats, if they can overcome their fear of humans, are the cuddliest pets ever. My cat Lucinda, who had been named after Lucifer because she had been so hissy toward humans, was the snuggliest pet I'd ever met once she overcame her fear. I think the secret with her was giving her space.
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Post by: travestine on November 21, 2012, 02:19:10 AM
I adopted two feral kitties at 4.5 months. We gave them plenty of space and let them come to us on their own terms and they became the most loving, sweetest kitties. Seven years later, they are the dearest cats ever. Ferals are definitely worth the time and effort.  Good for you and congrats - they are so gorgeous!
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Post by: wolfie on November 21, 2012, 10:08:48 AM
Just as an FYI - the younger the cats are the easier it is to tame them. Giving them space and letting them come to you works best on young cats. It worked with the 5 month olds I took in. But the 3 - 4 year cat? She died after three years in my house and at the end I could pet her while I was giving her ham as a treat but if i walked to close to where she was sleeping any other time she would hiss at me. I should have put her in a cage to begin with so I could do intense socializing with her, but by the time I was able to recapture her in the house I decided that after this long I could live with a house feral and didn't want to take the time and effort to socialize her.
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Post by: Shoo on November 22, 2012, 11:51:07 AM
We have been holding them, snuggling them, kissing them, playing with them, and feeding them as much as humanly possible!  We have subscribed to the Intense Love Method of Socialization for these kitties (TM) and I can't believe how well it's working.  My daughter brought them into my bed last night and we snuggled with them, and I got this picture when they fell asleep:

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/cuddling.jpg)

Do you think they love each other?  :)

And then they stretched out and Sissy Cat reeeeeeaaaaaally got comfortable!  She slept like this for half an hour!

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/laidout.jpg)

When I went into their room this morning, they were both on the daybed and just looked at me (they didn't run away and hide under the bed).  Such progress!

They had their first vet appointment yesterday, and they both are healthy and doing great.  Of course, we won't know their FIV status until they are a little older (maybe next visit), so I have THAT to worry about in the mean time, but I am determined to be optimistic about it.

Today I am Thankful for sweet baby kitties.
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Post by: diesel_darlin on November 22, 2012, 12:30:37 PM
N'awwwwwwwwwwww  ;D
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Post by: NutellaNut on November 22, 2012, 01:25:54 PM
So cute!  Sissy Cat must feel pretty comfortable with you all if she slept with her belly exposed like that.  That is real progress!

And now I want kittens....but my three cats would object most strenuously!
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Post by: furrcats on November 22, 2012, 01:30:35 PM
We have been holding them, snuggling them, kissing them, playing with them, and feeding them as much as humanly possible!  We have subscribed to the Intense Love Method of Socialization for these kitties (TM) and I can't believe how well it's working.  My daughter brought them into my bed last night and we snuggled with them, and I got this picture when they fell asleep:

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/cuddling.jpg)

Do you think they love each other?  :)

And then they stretched out and Sissy Cat reeeeeeaaaaaally got comfortable!  She slept like this for half an hour!
[img width=298 height=400]http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/laidout.jpg[/img
When I went into their room this morning, they were both on the daybed and just looked at me (they didn't run away and hide under the bed).  Such progress!

They had their first vet appointment yesterday, and they both are healthy and doing great.  Of course, we won't know their FIV status until they are a little older (maybe next visit), so I have THAT to worry about in the mean time, but I am determined to be optimistic about it
Today I am Thankful for sweet baby kitties.


Best picture ever!  :)
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Post by: wolfie on November 22, 2012, 07:32:52 PM
We have been holding them, snuggling them, kissing them, playing with them, and feeding them as much as humanly possible!  We have subscribed to the Intense Love Method of Socialization for these kitties (TM) and I can't believe how well it's working.  My daughter brought them into my bed last night and we snuggled with them, and I got this picture when they fell asleep:

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/cuddling.jpg)

Do you think they love each other?  :)

And then they stretched out and Sissy Cat reeeeeeaaaaaally got comfortable!  She slept like this for half an hour!

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/laidout.jpg)

When I went into their room this morning, they were both on the daybed and just looked at me (they didn't run away and hide under the bed).  Such progress!

They had their first vet appointment yesterday, and they both are healthy and doing great.  Of course, we won't know their FIV status until they are a little older (maybe next visit), so I have THAT to worry about in the mean time, but I am determined to be optimistic about it.

Today I am Thankful for sweet baby kitties.

i have a cat with FIV - it's really not that big of a deal. If they come up positive I would be more then happy to answer any questions. I would say the chances of them having it is pretty low - it only transfers from mother to kitten about 10% of the time. If she is negative then I would be surprised if they were positive. I would still test them though.
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Post by: Elfmama on November 22, 2012, 09:04:59 PM
And then they stretched out and Sissy Cat reeeeeeaaaaaally got comfortable!  She slept like this for half an hour!

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/laidout.jpg)

When I went into their room this morning, they were both on the daybed and just looked at me (they didn't run away and hide under the bed).  Such progress!
IMMENSE progress. :) No cat will sleep like that unless it feels totally safe.

But the temptation to snorgle that soft fuzzy white tummy must have been overwhelming! ;)
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Post by: Luci on November 22, 2012, 09:40:58 PM
I just came for the pictures and stayed for the story.

Congratulations! and Thank you!
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Post by: Venus193 on November 22, 2012, 10:39:49 PM
Congratulations; this is a great update and those pictures are priceless!
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Post by: Jocelyn on November 24, 2012, 05:31:07 PM
I've done rescues for decades now, and had two cats who did not test positive for FeLeuk or FIV until years after I got them. While both died young from the diseases, neither passed it on to any of the other cats. I really am in favor of letting positive cats live out as much time as Nature allows them.
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Post by: rain on November 24, 2012, 05:45:06 PM
more pics please
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Post by: Shoo on November 24, 2012, 05:51:39 PM
Well, since you asked for it.  :)  (I only have about a million pictures of them!)

Here is Tiger Kitty all relaxed and snoozing.

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/Tiger.jpg)

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Post by: Venus193 on November 24, 2012, 05:53:25 PM
Awwww!  Cinderella kitties are always great pets.  She's hit the jackpot and she knows it.
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Post by: Ms_Cellany on November 24, 2012, 06:07:20 PM

Here is Tiger Kitty all relaxed and snoozing.

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/Tiger.jpg)

**snorglesnorglesnorgle**
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Post by: Reika on November 24, 2012, 07:07:51 PM
Well, since you asked for it.  :)  (I only have about a million pictures of them!)

Here is Tiger Kitty all relaxed and snoozing.

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/Tiger.jpg)

What a happy and adorable kitten. :)
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Post by: Venus193 on November 24, 2012, 07:41:29 PM
That should be a greeting card or a calendar photo.
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Post by: Jocelyn on November 24, 2012, 10:17:03 PM
Shoo could make up calendars and sell them... ;D
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Post by: Shoo on November 24, 2012, 10:22:23 PM
The kitties were introduced to the wonder that is catnip today.  Wow.  CRAZY KITTY TIME!!

I only bought one small toy stuffed with it (a red Christmas stocking).  They were stealing it from each other, rolling all around, hugging it, biting it.  So cute! 
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Post by: rain on November 24, 2012, 10:23:50 PM
Well, since you asked for it.  :)  (I only have about a million pictures of them!)

Here is Tiger Kitty all relaxed and snoozing.

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/Tiger.jpg)

awww - I just want to tickle that fuzzy belly

- thanks for the pic ....  :-[ - but I'm addicted to your kitties now ... I want a web cam .... please, pretty please
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Post by: Amara on November 25, 2012, 12:48:28 AM
Pictures, please, of the catnip session!
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Post by: squeakers on November 25, 2012, 02:40:57 AM
My husband was really stupid 2 years ago: he called me in the middle of the night and told me "When I left the house there was kitten outside who talked to me.  I think he was hungry."

#4 was about 6 months old..  a grey and white male.  While my only female still objects to him.. the 2 other boys love him.  And so do my human kids ;-)

The younger the cat the sooner they bond.  I've "tamed" adults just by feeding them and sitting down near the food.  It took a year for the most skittish to become love bugs.  Babies? They figure the one with food and "grooming" aka as petting= good.

Your babies are adorable!

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Post by: Zilla on November 25, 2012, 05:35:20 AM
I just came for the pictures and stayed for the story.

Congratulations! and Thank you!
Me two.  Sooo cute and congrats!
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Post by: Jaelle on November 25, 2012, 10:02:39 AM
What beauties. Thank you so much, Shoo, for giving them a home. :) 
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Post by: Shoo on November 25, 2012, 10:32:49 AM
Pictures, please, of the catnip session!

This is the only one I got (with my husband's cell phone), but you can see how fond Sissy Cat is of her new toy.  A few moments later, Tiger Kitty came and 'rassled her for it and took it away for a few seconds.

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/catnip.jpg)
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Post by: greencat on November 25, 2012, 05:36:36 PM
Pictures, please, of the catnip session!

This is the only one I got (with my husband's cell phone), but you can see how fond Sissy Cat is of her new toy.  A few moments later, Tiger Kitty came and 'rassled her for it and took it away for a few seconds.

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/catnip.jpg)

Kittens that young usually aren't affected by catnip - all that playing was just because it was a TOY!!!
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Post by: Shoo on November 25, 2012, 09:24:36 PM
Last one today, I promise!

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/stretch.jpg)

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Post by: Venus193 on November 25, 2012, 09:35:18 PM
What are you talking about?  Keep them coming!  These babies are darling!
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Post by: Reika on November 25, 2012, 10:38:18 PM
Shoo, you seriously need to make a calendar of pictures of those two. :)
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Post by: Amara on November 25, 2012, 10:42:20 PM
CRUD MONKEYS!, that is so precious!
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Post by: AngelicGamer on November 26, 2012, 03:11:14 AM
Moar pictures plz.  Need moar of the kitten cuteness.  :D

(Also, BELLY.  *snorgle*)

ETA: Figured I should explain that the kittens are bringing out the I can haz cheeseburger internet speak in my vocab.  Sorry about that.  :)
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Post by: ThatGirl on November 26, 2012, 06:43:04 AM
CRUD MONKEYS! I'm actually getting broody for another kitten now - and mine is only 9 months old! Your little Sissy looks really similar to my Joanie when she was tiny (her full name is Joan Holloway but it was a bit of a mouthful!). They're both absolutely adorable, good on you for rescuing them and giving them such a happy home, they look very content already xxx
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Post by: MerryCat on November 26, 2012, 03:10:59 PM
I know what you mean about going broody, ThatGirl. Since finding this thread I think I've said "Honey, let's have a kitten" about a dozen times to my poor, long suffering DH lol.
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Post by: bansidhe on November 26, 2012, 05:29:20 PM
Last one today, I promise!

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/stretch.jpg)

I had to suppress a loud squeal when I saw this (I'm at work, where squealing loudly is frowned upon). Can't wait to show my husband tonight. He's going to lose it from the cuteness!
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Post by: Ms_Cellany on November 26, 2012, 06:53:58 PM
They killed THEMSELVES with Teh Qute!
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Post by: Elfmama on November 26, 2012, 09:40:27 PM
Those in the DC/Baltimore/Southern PA area who are feeling the desire for a new kitten should be informed that I have one to give away...  ;)
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Post by: Black Delphinium on November 26, 2012, 10:35:45 PM
Those in the DC/Baltimore/Southern PA area who are feeling the desire for a new kitten should be informed that I have one to give away...  ;)
And yet, we have not gotten the pictures we asked for.... >:D ;)
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Post by: Elfmama on November 26, 2012, 11:57:08 PM
Those in the DC/Baltimore/Southern PA area who are feeling the desire for a new kitten should be informed that I have one to give away...  ;)
And yet, we have not gotten the pictures we asked for.... >:D ;)




(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GhnZw4jLZ6Q/ULRU8nfkGsI/AAAAAAAAAAs/kNH78OSpqg0/s640/007.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0K0wvq_rpqA/ULRWB1Qw9dI/AAAAAAAAABg/10csc1Lq5iw/s576/006.JPG)


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YlbFqXB83a4/ULRWBcut52I/AAAAAAAAABc/FD_apuVWdmM/s576/005.JPG)
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Post by: PastryGoddess on November 27, 2012, 03:29:41 AM
Those in the DC/Baltimore/Southern PA area who are feeling the desire for a new kitten should be informed that I have one to give away...  ;)
And yet, we have not gotten the pictures we asked for.... >:D ;)




(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GhnZw4jLZ6Q/ULRU8nfkGsI/AAAAAAAAAAs/kNH78OSpqg0/s640/007.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0K0wvq_rpqA/ULRWB1Qw9dI/AAAAAAAAABg/10csc1Lq5iw/s576/006.JPG)


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YlbFqXB83a4/ULRWBcut52I/AAAAAAAAABc/FD_apuVWdmM/s576/005.JPG)


oooooooohhhh  Soooooo Cute! 
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Post by: iridaceae on November 27, 2012, 03:56:05 AM
The second and third photos are clearly showing a kitten going into "shred the humans' bedroom for making me look at that thing [camera]" mode. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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Post by: blue2000 on November 27, 2012, 05:00:44 AM

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YlbFqXB83a4/ULRWBcut52I/AAAAAAAAABc/FD_apuVWdmM/s576/005.JPG)


Oh my goodness, the FUZZ!

This thread is not good for my kitties. I keep getting the urge to snorgle fuzzy tummies.
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Post by: Venus193 on November 27, 2012, 05:52:47 AM
What a sweetie!
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Post by: Ms_Cellany on November 27, 2012, 07:39:21 AM
I need to huff a kitten STAT!
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Post by: happygrrl on November 27, 2012, 09:10:09 AM
I just came for the pictures and stayed for the story.

Congratulations! and Thank you!

Ditto to this! :) What cuties!
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Post by: guihong on November 27, 2012, 09:22:00 AM
Last one today, I promise!

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/stretch.jpg)

Caption: Three Cheers for our Forever Mommy!  ;D
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Post by: Shoo on November 27, 2012, 09:25:06 AM
I wish there was a "like" button!
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Post by: PastryGoddess on November 27, 2012, 12:51:23 PM
No this post needs a LOVE! button
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Post by: Yarnspinner on November 27, 2012, 02:18:36 PM
I just died from the cute....I so needed a cute break right now.....thank you Shoo AND Elfmama.
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Post by: Dalek on November 27, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
Awww!!! So cute <3
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Post by: Optimoose Prime on November 27, 2012, 06:16:51 PM
I'm not even into cats and I am dying from the cuteness.
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Post by: Baby Snakes on November 27, 2012, 07:07:31 PM
What adorable little babies!!!
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Post by: Ms_Cellany on November 27, 2012, 08:01:37 PM
Last one today, I promise!

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/stretch.jpg)

Caption: Three Cheers for our Forever Mommy!  ;D

Hip hip..zzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
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Post by: Shoo on November 30, 2012, 03:17:09 PM
It seems like all the pictures of the kitties are of them sleeping, so I attempted to take some today of them when they're NOT sleeping, and it proved harder than I thought it would.  They just can't stay still long enough for me to get a decent shot of them!

This is the best I could do today.  At least they're not in motion!

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/IMG_0120.jpg)
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Post by: Sirius on November 30, 2012, 03:28:41 PM
What cuties!
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Post by: Venus193 on November 30, 2012, 03:54:49 PM
Awww!  I want to cuddle them!
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Post by: Elfmama on November 30, 2012, 04:28:27 PM
Sweet fluffy kittens!

Stray Kitten went to a new home a couple of days ago.  A girl about 12 and her mother came to see him and fell in love.  :)  I'm happy that he has a forever home, but I miss his soft little body drowsing and purring on my computer desk to keep me company.  :-\
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Post by: Venus193 on November 30, 2012, 11:19:04 PM
I'm glad that sweet little guy got a good home.  Nothing is more adorable to me than a kitten.
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Post by: jane7166 on December 01, 2012, 02:17:09 PM
I'm not even into cats and I am dying from the cuteness.

Same here.  Dog person.  But, those are the cutest kittens ever!
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Post by: Shoo on December 01, 2012, 03:00:27 PM
It's been 2 weeks, and the kitties are doing really good.  We decided we want to start introducing them to "downstairs living" but we know they can't be allowed to roam freely just yet.  So we set up their pen, bought duplicates of pretty much everything, and now they are going to be spending their days downstairs with me, where I can see them and interact with them, and their nights in the kitty room, where they can't get into trouble.

It appears we might have to swap out the smaller kitty climber for the larger one in the picture.  Tiger climbed to the very top and, channeling the Spirit of the Flying Squirrel, managed to leap to the couch, almost making another Great Escape.  So we moved the tallest part to the middle of the pen (which is bigger than it looks in this picture) and now we'll just wait and see if she tries it again.

So far, they seem to be enjoying their new toys!

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/Sissy%20and%20Tiger/habitat.jpg)
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Post by: greencat on December 01, 2012, 04:49:57 PM
As a frequent kitten-caretaker...that pen is still holding those kittens?  My last few would have knocked the whole thing over by now!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) NEW PICS!! P.45
Post by: Ms_Cellany on December 01, 2012, 05:21:36 PM
As a frequent kitten-caretaker...that pen is still holding those kittens?  My last few would have knocked the whole thing over by now!

The most likely kitten reaction to that pen would be, "Challenge accepted."
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) NEW PICS!! P.45
Post by: Shoo on December 01, 2012, 06:34:21 PM
They have been pretty mellow so far.  I imagine they'll get wilder, though, as they get more accustomed to it.  So far they have been most active at night, chasing after each other, knocking things over, being really noisy.  They sleep A LOT during the day.  At night we are putting them back in the kitty room.  Maybe they'll stay contented in the pen just long enough that they aren't spooked by every little noise they hear down here.  I just want them to acclimate to this part of the house.  It's bigger, noisier, much more active.  When we've had them down here before, their run and hide instincts kicked in and we had to search for them.  It took hours to find them!  Going slowly this time, and expanding their world bit by bit.  Hopefully it will work!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) NEW PICS!! P.45
Post by: squeakers on December 02, 2012, 01:20:17 AM
I wouldn't even bother "caging" them.  They are far from being feral and are just kittehs.

Feral cats will have nothing.. NOTHING.. to do with humans.  And then they _might_ eat food from humans if no humans are around.  Then they will eat the food when you are a good distance away.  Then maybe if you are sitting just over there. This can take months to years.

Touching them.. maybe if they are eating after the months and weeks of acclimating them to your presence.  Then maybe they will solicit a pet after weeks or months of trying (depends on if they are true ferals or just abandoned kittehs).

Itty kittens? Need human interaction. But on their terms.  Hiding is natural.  They will come out for food and to use the potty (if they have figured out what a potty is).

My 4 adults: come "out" when they are hungry, stop by after a potty break and when they just want snuggled.  Some hide when not wanting those things, some find a spot and hang watching me.  It changes day by day.

That pen? Will keep them in for about 3 seconds if they want out.

Kudos on giving them such a nice home, though! Toys, scratchers and food.. what kitteh wouldn't be happy?
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) NEW PICS!! P.45
Post by: Shoo on December 02, 2012, 09:31:12 AM
I think they're enjoying their playpen!  They haven't attempted to escape since I moved the climber to the middle, which makes it just a leeeeetle bit too far for them to jump.  I know that some day they'll be able to make the leap, but for now, they're pretty well contained.  They are happily playing with all their toys, chasing each other up and down the climber.  Looks like they're having fun!

My goal here is to get them used to the sounds, sights, and smells of being in the larger part of the house.  I imagine it can be quite intimidating when you go from living in a 10x10 shed to a 10x10 bedroom, and then to a (seemingly) humongous space like my downstairs.  I know they're probably going to hide at first, but I don't want them to! I want them to feel like they're at home down here.  I hope it works!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) NEW PICS!! P.45
Post by: Shoo on December 12, 2012, 05:49:08 PM
So!  Took the kitties into the vet today for their follow-up appointment (a re-check), and booster shots. Kitties got weighed, examined real good.  Remarks all around at how "sturdy" Sissy Cat is, compared to the rather delicately statured Tiger Kitty. 

Vet decides to re-examine Sissy, and guess what?  We have a little tuxedo boy named Sissy.  :)  She said it happens surprisingly often.  It's just so hard to tell with the wee ones sometimes...
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: greencat on December 12, 2012, 05:54:44 PM
Oddly, now that I'm thinking about it, I don't know that I've met any female cats with the really classic tuxedo patterning - ever one that I've ever encountered with the perfect four-white-socks and white only on the stomach/neck pattern has been male.  The females have all had more splotchy/irregular white areas, even if they kind of generally conform to the the "tuxedo" outline. 
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: JenJay on December 12, 2012, 05:57:56 PM
It is! That's why our boy cat is named "Connie"  ;D. We found out during my DS's birthday party when my Gran said "Why did you name him that?", we said "Isn't it a girl?", and she said "Uh, no. You must not have checked recently because I can see his boy parts from here!" Haha!

In our defense he was only our 3rd kitten ever and the first boy we'd found so tiny, whereas Gran had raised many including a number of litters born in her own home.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Shoo on December 12, 2012, 06:02:54 PM
As a further update, the kittens have now taken over the entire house. It all belongs to them now.  The upstairs, the downstairs, the couch, the bed, my pillow...
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Lorelei_Evil on December 12, 2012, 06:04:20 PM
Welcome to cat motherhood.

:)
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Julian on December 12, 2012, 06:07:19 PM
As a further update, the kittens have now taken over the entire house. It all belongs to them now.  The upstairs, the downstairs, the couch, the bed, my pillow...

Hehehe, just wait till they learn to tap dance on your head to get you to feed them in the mornings!   ;D
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: greencat on December 12, 2012, 06:12:02 PM
Welcome to cat motherhood servitude.

:)

Fixed that for you :)
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Lorelei_Evil on December 12, 2012, 06:13:14 PM
OK, enslavement, then.  But it's a wonderful sort of bondage.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Venus193 on December 12, 2012, 07:42:43 PM
(http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx204/Venus193/Cat%20Pictures/Carmen4.jpg)

Not to hijack. but my Carmen is a classic tuxie (although her bib and facial markings are not perfectly symmetrical).

Her foster mum mistook her for a neutered male.  Had she been she would have been named Figaro.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Lorelei_Evil on December 12, 2012, 07:48:06 PM
She's gorgeous.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Shoo on December 12, 2012, 07:57:41 PM
(http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx204/Venus193/Cat%20Pictures/Carmen4.jpg)

Not to hijack. but my Carmen is a classic tuxie (although her bib and facial markings are not perfectly symmetrical).

Her foster mum mistook her for a neutered male.  Had she been she would have been named Figaro.

I love how her chin is white!  She's beautiful.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Venus193 on December 12, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
Thanks, and -- like her namesake -- she knows it!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Lorelei_Evil on December 12, 2012, 08:04:46 PM
We call our black and white girls the Tutones, Jacqueline and Kimberly.  I'd show you pictures but Jackie will not pose until she grows her fur back!  Mean Nana had her shaved due to persistent butt mats.   >:D
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: MorgnsGrl on December 12, 2012, 08:17:11 PM
There are girl tuxedos at the shelter all the time, so I don't think it was a stretch, and it can definitely be hard to tell with little kittens! We had a long-haired big-kitten foster here for weeks and we thought "she" was a girl the whole time, when she went in for her spay surgery it turned out she couldn't be spayed because she was a boy, LOL. (He got neutered instead, obviously.) He did have long fur and nice litter box manners so I never actually looked at his bits, but we were pretty surprised when we found out!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Shoo on December 12, 2012, 10:42:53 PM
We had a family meeting and decided that there's no way we are going to be able to call this kitty anything but Sissy.  Just like we couldn't stop calling the other kitty Tiger after we found out she was a girl.  So, his name is Sissy.  That's MR. Sissy, if you please.  :)
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Venus193 on December 12, 2012, 11:29:51 PM
You could change it to Cesar...
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: blue2000 on December 12, 2012, 11:39:44 PM
Or Sisyphus... :)
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: misha412 on December 13, 2012, 12:05:39 AM
Cicero would also work.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: mbbored on December 13, 2012, 12:22:10 AM
I think Sissy is adorable.

Then again, this is coming from a girl who's family could never figure out what to name the kitten besides "Kitty Cat" so she eternally became "K.C."
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: starofwinter on December 13, 2012, 12:27:09 AM
Or, if he's as vain as cats generally are, Narcissus.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Lorelei_Evil on December 13, 2012, 06:11:18 AM
Or if he's a talker, after the Roman Senator Cicero.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Ginger G on December 13, 2012, 12:08:42 PM
I'm so happy the kitties are doing well!  Regarding the latest update, when you first posted the pictures, I almost said then that I had a feeling the black and white kitty would turn out to be a boy.  When I was in junior high school, we adopted a beautiful tuxedo kitten and named her Pandora.  Well, after the first vet visit, we had to change the name to Panda, because she was actually a he.  Of course not all tuxies are boys, but the picture of your kitten reminded me so much of Panda, I just had a feeling that she was really a he.  Panda lived to a ripe old age and was a really good cat, except he decided he preferred the neighbors house two houses down and pretty much lived there most of the time.  They didn't have any other cats, and he didn't care much for the feline competition at our house.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Outdoor Girl on December 13, 2012, 12:10:56 PM
My Sassy looks very much like Venus' Carmen but without the white on her face.  So another person with a female 'classic' tuxie :)

And I love the idea of 'That's MR. Sissy to you!'
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Ms_Cellany on December 13, 2012, 12:13:32 PM
I used to have a female tuxedo named Berkeley (she made speeches and had no respect for private property).
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: PastryGoddess on December 13, 2012, 02:17:02 PM
I used to have a female tuxedo named Berkeley (she made speeches and had no respect for private property).

I bet she led protests too didn't she...
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: LibraryLady on December 13, 2012, 04:30:13 PM
And that is why Frank the cat is still called Frank when she should be called Francine.  Long hair can disguise many things or cause stuff to look
like "things" :-[

Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: Shoo on January 18, 2013, 04:19:47 PM
Tiger Kitty and Sissy Cat (now known as "Buddy") are now 13 weeks old!  Last week we they had their 12 week portrait done.  :)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/12weeksold_zpsd1ef3c04.jpg)

It is ridiculous how much we love these kitties.
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) NEW PIC #133!
Post by: Amara on January 18, 2013, 04:22:57 PM
They are sooooo beautiful! Are they are settled in? Do they race around the house, wake you up at dark o'clock for breakfast, purr, play madly? Tell us all!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) NEW PIC #133!
Post by: Shoo on January 18, 2013, 04:26:15 PM
They are sooooo beautiful! Are they are settled in? Do they race around the house, wake you up at dark o'clock for breakfast, purr, play madly? Tell us all!

Yes, they are settled in.  They think they own the place!  :)

We have to keep our bedroom door closed at night, because they think our bed is a playground, and the rasslin' and racing around keeps us awake.  So much energy!  And such appetites.  They eat like pigs!

But they are the sweetest kitties ever.  Especially Buddy (the tuxie).  He's such a lover.  Tiger is a little more aloof, but when she's ready to snuggle, wherever you are, that's where she wants to be.  On you.  :)

They are healthy and seem really happy.  They are scheduled for their "surgeries" in 3 weeks.  They may not like me as much after that!  :)
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) NEW PIC #133!
Post by: PastryGoddess on January 18, 2013, 04:27:17 PM
floooooofly kiiiiities!!! :)

nom nom nom
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) NEW PIC #133!
Post by: furrcats on January 18, 2013, 04:49:35 PM
Lovely cats :)
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) NEW PIC #133!
Post by: Venus193 on January 18, 2013, 04:51:26 PM
Awwwww!  Nothing cuter and they look like they know when they are being photographed!
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) NEW PIC #133!
Post by: Kaora on January 20, 2013, 12:36:36 AM
Kitties!

Congrats, they are gorgeous.  Cute.  Fluffy.  I wanna cuddle em both! ;D
Title: Re: Adopting 2 feral kittens (possibly today!) SURPRISING UPDATE #107
Post by: bansidhe on January 20, 2013, 11:07:28 PM
Tiger Kitty and Sissy Cat (now known as "Buddy") are now 13 weeks old!  Last week we they had their 12 week portrait done.  :)

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y496/tmitchell99/12weeksold_zpsd1ef3c04.jpg)

It is ridiculous how much we love these kitties.

Wait...how did I miss this thread? How incredibly cute they are!