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General Etiquette => Etiquette of the Rich and Famous => Topic started by: MamaMootz on November 27, 2012, 08:57:03 AM

Title: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: MamaMootz on November 27, 2012, 08:57:03 AM
I know, this isn't a hot topic but I just caught this picture today and I'm shocked that he would dress this way to meet a government official - a prime minister, no less.

My 10 year old would know better than this. What was he thinking? I don't condone anyone calling him "white trash" but for the love of all things holy, dress properly for this occasion.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1697881/justin-bieber-overalls-canadian-prime-minister.jhtml
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: guihong on November 27, 2012, 09:16:07 AM
I'm thinking he was actually in an arena, maybe rehearsing or otherwise occupied, and the PM just happened by.  The comments say that the flags were props.  So it was a big surprise to him.  He even looks surprised in the picture.  I know the President could show up at my house and surprise me in my Betty Boop pajama pants.  If a camera goes off, oh well.

If this was a formal occasion in Ottawa, then yes, very inappropriate.

(I say that as a non-fan).

Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: HermioneGranger on November 27, 2012, 09:16:25 AM
It's about as appropriate as flip flops in the White House, which a women's sports team thought it okay to wear to meet (then) President Bush a few years back.  I think it's tacky, and extremely disrespectful.  You're meeting the leader of your country, for deity's sake.  Wear something appropriate. 
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: CaptainObvious on November 27, 2012, 09:18:17 AM
I know, this isn't a hot topic but I just caught this picture today and I'm shocked that he would dress this way to meet a government official - a prime minister, no less.

My 10 year old would know better than this. What was he thinking? I don't condone anyone calling him "white trash" but for the love of all things holy, dress properly for this occasion.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1697881/justin-bieber-overalls-canadian-prime-minister.jhtml

I really thought that more people would be upset about this. This is worse than the flip flop incident in my opinion.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: diesel_darlin on November 27, 2012, 09:19:09 AM
At least he wasn't in that getup he had on the night of the AMA's.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Lorelei_Evil on November 27, 2012, 09:19:50 AM
I can't take the child seriously enough to be too upset, but I do agree with you.

I think he did it deliberately to get attention, actually.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: StuffedGrapeLeaves on November 27, 2012, 09:24:21 AM
I'm thinking he was actually in an arena, maybe rehearsing or otherwise occupied, and the PM just happened by.  The comments say that the flags were props.  So it was a big surprise to him.  He even looks surprised in the picture.  I know the President could show up at my house and surprise me in my Betty Boop pajama pants.  If a camera goes off, oh well.

If this was a formal occasion in Ottawa, then yes, very inappropriate.

(I say that as a non-fan).

I'm not a fan of Justin Bieber, but he said that the PM came to the hockey arena where he was performing, and he went straight from the meet-and-greet to see the PM.  So it doesn't sound like he wore it deliberately to meet with the PM at an official place.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/justin-bieber-why-i-wore-overalls-to-meet-canadian-prime-minister-stephen-harper-20122611
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: CaptainObvious on November 27, 2012, 09:27:42 AM
I'm thinking he was actually in an arena, maybe rehearsing or otherwise occupied, and the PM just happened by.  The comments say that the flags were props.  So it was a big surprise to him.  He even looks surprised in the picture.  I know the President could show up at my house and surprise me in my Betty Boop pajama pants.  If a camera goes off, oh well.

If this was a formal occasion in Ottawa, then yes, very inappropriate.

(I say that as a non-fan).

I'm not a fan of Justin Bieber, but he said that the PM came to the hockey arena where he was performing, and he went straight from the meet-and-greet to see the PM.  So it doesn't sound like he wore it deliberately to meet with the PM at an official place.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/justin-bieber-why-i-wore-overalls-to-meet-canadian-prime-minister-stephen-harper-20122611

That outfit died in the 90's and should have never been resurrected ;)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: WillyNilly on November 27, 2012, 09:32:56 AM
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"The pic of me and the Prime Minister was taken in a room in the arena where i was performing at that day. I walked straight from my meet and greet to him..."

This is what makes it ok to me.  This wasn't an official meeting where Bieber went to the PM's office, this was the PM doing a drop in at Bieber's work place.

We see pictures of the US president meeting American worker's wearing hardhats, or casual fatigues, or regular street clothes all the time - because the President is going to them at their work place and greeting them.  When people go to the White House people should dress appropriately, but when they are just at their own job they need to dress appropriately for their job.

If anyone is dressed in appropriately I'd say its the PM - a suit is not the proper attire for a pop star's concert; jeans and t-shirt would have been more appropriate on the part of the PM.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Sharnita on November 27, 2012, 09:40:51 AM
Yeah, I think since the PM was coming to his workplace it was OK.  He could have taken the hat off, though.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: blahblahblah on November 27, 2012, 10:12:49 AM
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So it was a big surprise to him.  He even looks surprised in the picture. 
It wasn't. He was receiving the Diamond Jubilee medal. He knew the PM was coming.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on November 27, 2012, 10:17:15 AM
I'm thinking he was actually in an arena, maybe rehearsing or otherwise occupied, and the PM just happened by.  The comments say that the flags were props.  So it was a big surprise to him.  He even looks surprised in the picture.  I know the President could show up at my house and surprise me in my Betty Boop pajama pants.  If a camera goes off, oh well.

If this was a formal occasion in Ottawa, then yes, very inappropriate.

(I say that as a non-fan).

I'm not a fan of Justin Bieber, but he said that the PM came to the hockey arena where he was performing, and he went straight from the meet-and-greet to see the PM.  So it doesn't sound like he wore it deliberately to meet with the PM at an official place.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/justin-bieber-why-i-wore-overalls-to-meet-canadian-prime-minister-stephen-harper-20122611

That outfit died in the 90's and should have never been resurrected ;)

That's what I was going to say! LOL!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: WillyNilly on November 27, 2012, 10:21:20 AM
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So it was a big surprise to him.  He even looks surprised in the picture. 
It wasn't. He was receiving the Diamond Jubilee medal. He knew the PM was coming.

Disaster victims in the hospital know when they are getting visited by officials too - should we jump on them for not getting out of bed and dressed up too?

I'm no Bieber fan but he was at work, and dressed appropriately for his workplace.  If the PM wanted something formal, the PM should have arranged for something formal in a local that alluded to formality.  That's not what happened.  What happened is the PM went to visit a pop star in the arena the pop star was performing pop music, and as such the pop star was dressed in his performance attire.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Yvaine on November 27, 2012, 10:22:47 AM
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So it was a big surprise to him.  He even looks surprised in the picture. 
It wasn't. He was receiving the Diamond Jubilee medal. He knew the PM was coming.

Disaster victims in the hospital know when they are getting visited by officials too - should we jump on them for not getting out of bed and dressed up too?

I'm no Bieber fan but he was at work, and dressed appropriately for his workplace.  If the PM wanted something formal, the PM should have arranged for something formal in a local that alluded to formality.  That's not what happened.  What happened is the PM went to visit a pop star in the arena the pop star was performing pop music, and as such the pop star was dressed in his performance attire.

I'm going to agree here. The prime minister dropped in backstage at a pop concert and Bieber was still in costume. No real story here IMO.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: blahblahblah on November 27, 2012, 10:24:23 AM
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Disaster victims in the hospital know when they are getting visited by officials too - should we jump on them for not getting out of bed and dressed up too?
Uh, okay? ::) I was just clarifying the situation because what the other poster was saying was wrong. I really don't care about this particular situation (although I think your analogy is lacking)...except to say that Justin has some terrible fashion sense in general IMO. But that's hardly an etiquette gaffe, ofc. Justin's said and done a lot of stupid stuff but this doesn't even register.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Sharnita on November 27, 2012, 10:24:50 AM
I'm with WillyNilly here.  If Celeine Dion went to see him in the afternoon a fabulous evening gown would be inappropriate but if he went to see her when and where she was performing it should be expected.  This is the same thing, the costuing for the performance is just different.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: WillyNilly on November 27, 2012, 10:31:09 AM
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Disaster victims in the hospital know when they are getting visited by officials too - should we jump on them for not getting out of bed and dressed up too?
Uh, okay? ::) I was just clarifying the situation because what the other poster was saying was wrong. I really don't care about this particular situation (although I think your analogy is lacking)...except to say that Justin has some terrible fashion sense in general IMO. But that's hardly an etiquette gaffe, ofc. Justin's said and done a lot of stupid stuff but this doesn't even register.

Well my example is extreme, its just the point, that people dress to their location and their overall day.  Bieber might have known the PM was coming but that was what 15 minutes of his day?  His overall day was performing a pop concert and doing a pop fan meet & greet.  So he's got several hours that require one outfit and 15 minutes that ideally require another, which should he dress for?  Common sense says dress for the several hours not the 15 minutes.

I do agree the outfit is a fashion crime in a general sense though, regardless of the PM's visit or being a pop star.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: CakeBeret on November 27, 2012, 11:15:51 AM
Much as I dislike Beiber, his attitude, and his music, I don't think he did anything wrong. He was getting ready for a concert--as he said in his statement, he didn't even have a suit available. The PM dropped in on him pre-concert, and Bieber went directly from a meet-and-greet to the PM. There was neither opportunity nor means for him to change into something more appropriate.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Yvaine on November 27, 2012, 11:23:08 AM
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Disaster victims in the hospital know when they are getting visited by officials too - should we jump on them for not getting out of bed and dressed up too?
Uh, okay? ::) I was just clarifying the situation because what the other poster was saying was wrong. I really don't care about this particular situation (although I think your analogy is lacking)...except to say that Justin has some terrible fashion sense in general IMO. But that's hardly an etiquette gaffe, ofc. Justin's said and done a lot of stupid stuff but this doesn't even register.

Well my example is extreme, its just the point, that people dress to their location and their overall day.  Bieber might have known the PM was coming but that was what 15 minutes of his day?  His overall day was performing a pop concert and doing a pop fan meet & greet.  So he's got several hours that require one outfit and 15 minutes that ideally require another, which should he dress for?  Common sense says dress for the several hours not the 15 minutes.

I do agree the outfit is a fashion crime in a general sense though, regardless of the PM's visit or being a pop star.

Well, I think fashion crimes are almost obligatory for pop stars.  ;D I'm just remembering some of the hilarious things the NKOTB wore back when I was a wee fan of theirs.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Knitterly on November 27, 2012, 11:34:04 AM
Much as I dislike Beiber, his attitude, and his music, I don't think he did anything wrong. He was getting ready for a concert--as he said in his statement, he didn't even have a suit available. The PM dropped in on him pre-concert, and Bieber went directly from a meet-and-greet to the PM. There was neither opportunity nor means for him to change into something more appropriate.

I agree with this. 
Also, the PM himself has already excused the outfit.

The lack of appropriate clothing is not something that should be blamed on Bieber.  He has a scheduler and a handler whose jobs are to make sure he is appropriately dressed for such occasions.  That he was not given time or opportunity to change is not actually his fault.

This one hardly registered as news for me.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: O'Dell on November 27, 2012, 11:56:24 AM
I'm stuck on Justin Bieber winning an award for making a "significant contribution" to Canada. No opinion on the overalls except they are darn comfortable and all those pockets are handy.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: blahblahblah on November 27, 2012, 11:57:41 AM
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Well, I think fashion crimes are almost obligatory for pop stars.   ;DI'm just remembering some of the hilarious things the NKOTB wore back when I was a wee fan of theirs.
Pffft. Clearly you do not remember the glory of the boybands of yore (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/reasons-why-90s-boy-bands-were-the-best-boy-bands).
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: guihong on November 27, 2012, 03:17:12 PM
I'm stuck on Justin Bieber winning an award for making a "significant contribution" to Canada. No opinion on the overalls except they are darn comfortable and all those pockets are handy.

That, too.  I'm not even Canadian, and they couldn't come up with another winner?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Kate on November 27, 2012, 03:28:07 PM
I will be the dissenting voice here. Justin knew in advance that he was receiving the award and meeting the Prime Minister, the timing and location is no excuse. I'm sure he could have worn almost ANYTHING to the prior "meet and greet" that would have been more acceptable than those sloppy overalls for subsequently meeting with the PM. Not to mention he could have removed the hat and didn't. Very rude, but manners seem to be out of style these days.
The fact that the PM is  humorously"excusing" him shows that Mr Harper HAS class and manners. I hope Justin learns a lesson from this. The booing of his performance at the Grey Cup game probably had something to do with this although i also think that was bad manners too!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: klm75 on November 27, 2012, 05:29:12 PM
I'm stuck on Justin Bieber winning an award for making a "significant contribution" to Canada. No opinion on the overalls except they are darn comfortable and all those pockets are handy.

That, too.  I'm not even Canadian, and they couldn't come up with another winner?

Several people are receiving them (including my husband ;D)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: guihong on November 27, 2012, 05:54:52 PM
I'm stuck on Justin Bieber winning an award for making a "significant contribution" to Canada. No opinion on the overalls except they are darn comfortable and all those pockets are handy.

That, too.  I'm not even Canadian, and they couldn't come up with another winner?

Several people are receiving them (including my husband ;D)

That's wonderful :).  I thought it was a one-person recipient.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Outdoor Girl on November 27, 2012, 06:02:30 PM
There are a rather large number of people getting the Jubilee medals.  Many of this past summer's Olympians are getting them, for example.  Some of my coworkers across the province are eligible, depending on how many years they have in.  I'm not eligible.   :)

While I think Justin could have at least changed into some khakis and a button-down, it isn't like he was being presented with this medal in Ottawa in the House of Commons.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: blue2000 on November 27, 2012, 06:42:30 PM
I'm stuck on Justin Bieber winning an award for making a "significant contribution" to Canada. No opinion on the overalls except they are darn comfortable and all those pockets are handy.

That, too.  I'm not even Canadian, and they couldn't come up with another winner?

Several people are receiving them (including my husband ;D)

Congratulations!!!

I trust he is not planning to wear a pop-star outfit? :P
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: klm75 on November 27, 2012, 08:29:06 PM
I'm stuck on Justin Bieber winning an award for making a "significant contribution" to Canada. No opinion on the overalls except they are darn comfortable and all those pockets are handy.

That, too.  I'm not even Canadian, and they couldn't come up with another winner?

Several people are receiving them (including my husband ;D)

Congratulations!!!

I trust he is not planning to wear a pop-star outfit? :P

Nope, he knows what to wear ;)  It's part of his job.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: MamaMootz on November 28, 2012, 07:18:55 AM
I didn't see the part of the article that said he was rehearsing - didn't read it all the way through. Still, I have to say I agree with Kate.

He had to know in advance the PM was coming, or his handlers should have. They should have had him change into something more appropriate. That outfit makes him look like an ignorant, uneducated slob. I mean, he couldn't even button the overalls all the way?

I'm so glad my 10 year old DD does not like him or his music and makes faces whenever his name is mentioned. She used to be a fan of Selena Gomez, and when she found out Selena was dating him, said "I just lost all respect for her". Now that they are broken up, I don't know what she thinks but I know she's no longer a Selena fan.

And I have thought that perhaps he did this on purpose to cause publicity and get people talking.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Winterlight on November 28, 2012, 07:44:50 PM
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Well, I think fashion crimes are almost obligatory for pop stars.   ;DI'm just remembering some of the hilarious things the NKOTB wore back when I was a wee fan of theirs.
Pffft. Clearly you do not remember the glory of the boybands of yore (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/reasons-why-90s-boy-bands-were-the-best-boy-bands).

My eyes!!!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: JonGirl on November 29, 2012, 05:49:55 AM
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Well, I think fashion crimes are almost obligatory for pop stars.   ;DI'm just remembering some of the hilarious things the NKOTB wore back when I was a wee fan of theirs.
Pffft. Clearly you do not remember the glory of the boybands of yore (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/reasons-why-90s-boy-bands-were-the-best-boy-bands).

My eyes!!!

I am officially old!!  ;D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: blue2000 on November 29, 2012, 07:16:22 AM
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Well, I think fashion crimes are almost obligatory for pop stars.   ;DI'm just remembering some of the hilarious things the NKOTB wore back when I was a wee fan of theirs.
Pffft. Clearly you do not remember the glory of the boybands of yore (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/reasons-why-90s-boy-bands-were-the-best-boy-bands).

My eyes!!!

I am officially old!!  ;D

<sigh> Me, too.

I must object to the idea that only 90's boy bands have dolls. Some recent ones do as well. Not sure why, they never look quite like the real thing.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: RingTailedLemur on November 29, 2012, 07:28:44 AM
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Well, I think fashion crimes are almost obligatory for pop stars.   ;DI'm just remembering some of the hilarious things the NKOTB wore back when I was a wee fan of theirs.
Pffft. Clearly you do not remember the glory of the boybands of yore (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/reasons-why-90s-boy-bands-were-the-best-boy-bands).

My eyes!!!

I am officially old!!  ;D

<sigh> Me, too.

I must object to the idea that only 90's boy bands have dolls. Some recent ones do as well. Not sure why, they never look quite like the real thing.

I bet this guy could fix them: http://ncruz.com/
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: blue2000 on November 29, 2012, 07:40:51 AM

I must object to the idea that only 90's boy bands have dolls. Some recent ones do as well. Not sure why, they never look quite like the real thing.

I bet this guy could fix them: http://ncruz.com/

Wow, some of those are spot on! And even the ones that aren't at least look nice. Better than having a big display of hideously ugly dolls with your name on them... :-\
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Winterlight on November 29, 2012, 09:09:36 AM
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Well, I think fashion crimes are almost obligatory for pop stars.   ;DI'm just remembering some of the hilarious things the NKOTB wore back when I was a wee fan of theirs.
Pffft. Clearly you do not remember the glory of the boybands of yore (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/reasons-why-90s-boy-bands-were-the-best-boy-bands).

My eyes!!!

I am officially old!!  ;D

<sigh> Me, too.

I must object to the idea that only 90's boy bands have dolls. Some recent ones do as well. Not sure why, they never look quite like the real thing.

I bet this guy could fix them: http://ncruz.com/

Wow, those are really good!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Onyx_TKD on November 29, 2012, 04:56:27 PM
I will be the dissenting voice here. Justin knew in advance that he was receiving the award and meeting the Prime Minister, the timing and location is no excuse. I'm sure he could have worn almost ANYTHING to the prior "meet and greet" that would have been more acceptable than those sloppy overalls for subsequently meeting with the PM. Not to mention he could have removed the hat and didn't. Very rude, but manners seem to be out of style these days.
The fact that the PM is  humorously"excusing" him shows that Mr Harper HAS class and manners. I hope Justin learns a lesson from this. The booing of his performance at the Grey Cup game probably had something to do with this although i also think that was bad manners too!
I didn't see the part of the article that said he was rehearsing - didn't read it all the way through. Still, I have to say I agree with Kate.

He had to know in advance the PM was coming, or his handlers should have. They should have had him change into something more appropriate. That outfit makes him look like an ignorant, uneducated slob. I mean, he couldn't even button the overalls all the way?

I'm so glad my 10 year old DD does not like him or his music and makes faces whenever his name is mentioned. She used to be a fan of Selena Gomez, and when she found out Selena was dating him, said "I just lost all respect for her". Now that they are broken up, I don't know what she thinks but I know she's no longer a Selena fan.

And I have thought that perhaps he did this on purpose to cause publicity and get people talking.

By my reading of the article, this award was presented to Bieber at his performance venue between two public appearances (a meet-and-greet and an actual performance). If the overalls were a typical example of Bieber's "work clothes," i.e. that is the outfit he was going to wear in the performance and it is typical of his performance attire, then I think it makes sense for him to wear that for the presentation for a couple of reasons.
1. I assume this award is being given because of his work as a pop-star, not something unrelated to his work.
2. I doubt this time and location were the only possible options for giving the award, which implies someone in charge of the award thought Bieber's performance venue (his workplace, even if just for the day) was a good place for it. They probably could have done this in a more formal or "official" venue, but chose not to.

To me, if someone is receiving an award for/because of their work and those giving the award choose to do so at that person's workplace in the middle of their workday, then I would assume that's an indicator that the person's typical work attire would be appropriate. If the work attire isn't appropriate, then IMO the award should be presented at a different time and/or place when the person isn't working.

To use other examples: If a government official (GO) shows up at a police station to present an award to a police officer for actions on the job, would you expect the officer to change out of his uniform into a suit? If a GO has an award for a construction worker and chooses to present it at his construction site in the middle of the workday, would it be inappropriate for the worker to receive it wearing a hardhat and blue jeans? If an award is being presented to an orchestra conductor at intermission, should he change out of his tuxedo into a normal suit so he's not overdressed for the occasion?  ;)

The PM's response could be a humorous way of "excusing" Bieber, but it could also indicate that he doesn't think he has anything to excuse him for, because they intentionally showed up at a time when he'd be dressed for going on stage. Whether Bieber's stage attire is classy and flattering or not is IMO a separate question.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Yvaine on November 29, 2012, 05:41:08 PM
To me, if someone is receiving an award for/because of their work and those giving the award choose to do so at that person's workplace in the middle of their workday, then I would assume that's an indicator that the person's typical work attire would be appropriate. If the work attire isn't appropriate, then IMO the award should be presented at a different time and/or place when the person isn't working.

To use other examples: If a government official (GO) shows up at a police station to present an award to a police officer for actions on the job, would you expect the officer to change out of his uniform into a suit? If a GO has an award for a construction worker and chooses to present it at his construction site in the middle of the workday, would it be inappropriate for the worker to receive it wearing a hardhat and blue jeans? If an award is being presented to an orchestra conductor at intermission, should he change out of his tuxedo into a normal suit so he's not overdressed for the occasion?  ;)

Yes, this. In fact, as I understand it, many politicians actively want photo ops with, say, construction workers in their hard hats, firemen in their fire uniforms, etc., in order to humanize the politician and make him look like a "man of the people," and/or to publicly honor the job that the worker does. The PM may have picked a time Bieber would look like, well, Bieber, in order to make himself look more hip to his younger constituents. Bieber in a suit wouldn't necessarily carry the same PR message.

Edited to fix an omitted word.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Allyson on December 01, 2012, 01:49:03 PM
Considering how much people hate Bieber, at least some people probably wouldn't have liked it regardless of what he wore...his name has almost become a household joke in a lot of places. I'm not sure what makes him worse than any other young popstar, but hey, at least the overalls were noticeable enough that it gave people a reason to make fun of his clothes! (/tongue in cheek)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: afbluebelle on December 01, 2012, 05:07:26 PM
I love Justin Bieber, because he is a very important half of my new favorite mash-up: Slipknot/Justin B - Psychosocial Baby.


If the Prime Minister didn't mind, why should everyone else?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: CakeBeret on December 01, 2012, 09:16:50 PM
I love Justin Bieber, because he is a very important half of my new favorite mash-up: Slipknot/Justin B - Psychosocial Baby.

Why have I not heard of this before? Is it possible that Slipknot can make Justin Bieber bearable? Also, I thought Slipknot had disbanded. Off to investigate.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: CakeBeret on December 01, 2012, 09:20:33 PM
Okay, that was hilarious! I couldn't sit through all of it (that melody + slipknot is just...wrong) but, wow.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: afbluebelle on December 02, 2012, 08:24:47 PM
It's even better when you see a guy in a tutu dancing to it in a bar!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on December 03, 2012, 12:13:07 PM
We watched Men In Black III the other night. I laughed out loud when I caught sight of their screen that shows all aliens inhabiting the planet Earth and Justin Bieber was one of them. 

Maybe THAT explains it. ;)

I don't like him, I don't dislike him either.  I just don't get what the hype is. 
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: nolechica on December 08, 2012, 02:08:27 AM
Given that M&G is usually right before any show (sometimes to the point of delaying the show to finish with fans), I'm not surprised by the clothing as much as the timing.  If they wanted him dressed differently, it would've been earlier in the day.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Twik on December 10, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
We watched Men In Black III the other night. I laughed out loud when I caught sight of their screen that shows all aliens inhabiting the planet Earth and Justin Bieber was one of them. 

Maybe THAT explains it. ;)

I don't like him, I don't dislike him either.  I just don't get what the hype is.

All generations of teenage girls must have their idols. The act of entrenching an idol immediately makes those outside the range react with emotions ranging from hostility to bewilderment (the antipathy is strongest in those who want to make it clear that they are neither teenagers, nor girls).

People once reacted the same way to Frank Sinatra, although I'd say the odds are that Bieber will not fall into the same category.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: TurtleDove on December 10, 2012, 10:20:16 AM
I'm not a Bieber fan necessarily, but he is a talented person and as far as I know is not offensive in any way.  Why do so many "hate" him?  Have I missed something or is it just, "we don't like pop stars - yuck."
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: onyonryngs on December 10, 2012, 10:22:30 AM
I'm not a Bieber fan necessarily, but he is a talented person and as far as I know is not offensive in any way.  Why do so many "hate" him?  Have I missed something or is it just, "we don't like pop stars - yuck."

Not a fan of his music, and I don't see "talent," just a product.  And I don't think he's as adorable as he seems to think he is.  I don't hate him necessarily, but I will go out of my way to avoid him.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on December 10, 2012, 11:07:46 AM
We watched Men In Black III the other night. I laughed out loud when I caught sight of their screen that shows all aliens inhabiting the planet Earth and Justin Bieber was one of them. 

Maybe THAT explains it. ;)

I don't like him, I don't dislike him either.  I just don't get what the hype is.

All generations of teenage girls must have their idols. The act of entrenching an idol immediately makes those outside the range react with emotions ranging from hostility to bewilderment (the antipathy is strongest in those who want to make it clear that they are neither teenagers, nor girls).

People once reacted the same way to Frank Sinatra, although I'd say the odds are that Bieber will not fall into the same category.

This is true enough.   I think the hate also comes from people who will just hate whatever the hype is because it seems cool.   I remember one guy I knew used to just LOVE Jar Jar Binks but when the outlash started he jumped on the bandwagon and denied ever liking Jar Jar.   ::)

I don't know enough about the guy other than he's Canadian and got discovered because of his YouTube videos, and I  haven't heard enough of his music to really have an opinion on it.  With 3 boys and my radio set forever to a classic rock station, I don't hear much of his music.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: TurtleDove on December 10, 2012, 11:56:11 AM
I think the hate also comes from people who will just hate whatever the hype is because it seems cool.   

This seems to be the reasoning I am seeing.  From what I know, he is a talented kid who plays numerous instruments, sings, dances, entertains, and is not into drugs or alcohol or kicking puppies.  I haven't heard of a single offensive thing he's ever done (unless you consider this to be it) so for so many people to "hate" him is strange to me! To not like his music is one thing, but it's not like he's a talentless lip syncher famous for nothing (like a Kardashian or something).
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: CakeBeret on December 10, 2012, 01:49:55 PM
I think the hate also comes from people who will just hate whatever the hype is because it seems cool.   

This seems to be the reasoning I am seeing.  From what I know, he is a talented kid who plays numerous instruments, sings, dances, entertains, and is not into drugs or alcohol or kicking puppies.  I haven't heard of a single offensive thing he's ever done (unless you consider this to be it) so for so many people to "hate" him is strange to me! To not like his music is one thing, but it's not like he's a talentless lip syncher famous for nothing (like a Kardashian or something).

I don't hate him, but I dislike his music and he comes across as entitled. I suspect that many people dislike him largely (or solely) because they find his music irritating.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: TurtleDove on December 10, 2012, 02:20:39 PM
he comes across as entitled.

How so?  I haven't heard anything like that!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: CakeBeret on December 10, 2012, 03:46:14 PM
he comes across as entitled.

How so?  I haven't heard anything like that!

It's been the impression I've gotten from various media, though I don't follow Bieber news too closely. Here is one article I found, though:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/08/09/justin-bieber-earning-reputation-for-hollywoods-biggest-brat/

Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: TurtleDove on December 10, 2012, 03:54:40 PM

It's been the impression I've gotten from various media, though I don't follow Bieber news too closely. Here is one article I found, though:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/08/09/justin-bieber-earning-reputation-for-hollywoods-biggest-brat/

Ah - thanks for the link - I had never heard any of that!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on December 10, 2012, 07:54:01 PM
Me neither, and I didn't really care for the "typical teen" line. Yeah, that is the stereotypical teen behavior but I do think it rang like an excuse for his behavior that it's just that the camera catches him doing things all teen boys.   If any of my boys put their hand through a cake that was meant for several people to eat, star or no star status, they'd get an earful in their trailer from me.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: nolechica on December 11, 2012, 12:51:35 AM
I don't dislike Justin for any reasons that aren't musical, but his manager does him no favors on the brat front IMO. The manager's post-Grammy nom rant was over the top when Justin wasn't nominated this year.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: blahblahblah on December 18, 2012, 11:03:02 AM
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I haven't heard of a single offensive thing he's ever done (unless you consider this to be it) so for so many people to "hate" him is strange to me!
In addition to what the pp said, Justin got a LOT of hate after he did a...polarizing (to say the least) interview with Rolling Stone. I won't get into the details here, because it talks about a major hot-button issue, but you can probably google it if you want to find out more. Or PM me if you'd like.

I'm not saying whether the hate after that interview was justified or not - I really don't want to start up the debate again lol - I'm just pointing out that he has been ensnared in some controversy that has added fuel to the fire, so to speak.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: MamaMootz on December 19, 2012, 04:27:09 PM
I think my DD doesn't like him because she doesn't like his music, and thinks his appearance is absurd (the hair). Also, I think it's rebellious as a lot of tweens her age are loving Bieber, so it makes her stand out to not love him.

Plus, she pretty much hates all boy bands because she thinks they are "stupid". The current One Direction craze also makes her nutty.

I don't like him because he's a product, like a PP said. I'm grateful she doesn't like him, actually.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber's Overalls
Post by: rose red on December 19, 2012, 05:17:54 PM
I just get this vibe he's mean, entitled, snobby, and makes fun of others.  I physically have a difficult time looking at his face.  It's rare when I get that feeling, but whenever I have the same vibe with other public figures, I'm eventually proved right.

eta:  I don't even feel that strongly about the Kardashians, Honey Boo Boo, Snookie and I know they turn off a lot of people.  There's just something about Justin, but I can't put my finger on it.