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Title: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Morrigan on December 03, 2012, 08:01:35 PM
You don't have to post to a thread just to get updates.  Just hit notify!  Please!  :)

When everyone posts for updates only, it makes a thread long and (on some systems) unmanageable!

Please hit "notify" instead!

If you've hit notify, to find them, just go to your profile, account settings, then under the modify profile icon will be "notifications".  There, it will list all of the threads you want to be notified on.

If someone knows an easier way to get there (without getting e-mails), please let me know!
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: sourwolf on December 03, 2012, 08:31:31 PM
Oh my goodness, yes.  It's so disappointing to keep on seeing threads with "new" posts when all they are is posters asking for updates. 
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: penelope2017 on December 03, 2012, 09:22:49 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you!

This is by far one of the most annoying things in threads. That and when a poster leaves out crucial info in the story and offers it in a PM, which then results in the entire thread being "Can I get a PM too, please" instead of just PM'ng the poster, or actually including the info in the thread to begin with.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: squeakers on December 03, 2012, 10:23:41 PM
I don't bother with "notify".  Either I check the whole child board to see if there is "new" flag next to threads I have been reading or, if I have posted to the thread, check "new replies to your posts". (Which is misnamed cos it notifies you even if you are poster #32 in 600 post long thread.) I tend to mark the boards as read once I have looked at the threads that interest me so that the next time I stop in I can see the newest stuff at a glance.

Posting for updates in a new thread is just an obnoxious as asking people to update older threads, IMO.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: FauxFoodist on December 03, 2012, 11:29:26 PM
Nice try, but a lot of posters won't stop posting for updates.  I tried making this suggestion, use Notify, when the option was first introduced.  More than one person told me it was different than posting for updates (made no sense to me but I wasn't going to bother arguing the point).
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: RingTailedLemur on December 04, 2012, 03:55:06 AM
Except that if you click "notify" you get an email every time someone posts to the thread, leading to an absolute avalanche in your inbox.


I understand it may be annoying for some people, but I don't intend to stop doing it just because of that. Unless there is a rule against it, I don't see why I, or anyone else should have to change how we do things. It's pretty rare anyway. I know I only do it a couple of times a year.

I agree.

Sorry, OP, but "posting for updates" is much better and you can just skip by those posts.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: camlan on December 04, 2012, 05:50:26 AM
Using "Notify" does have an advantage in that you can cancel it and stop getting notified when there are new posts.

Posting in the thread for an update means that you will always see that thread in your "Show new replies." Some people have asked how to stop that, and really the only way is to not post in a thread. "Notify" will keep you updated and let you cancel the emails.

So if you want the option to stop seeing a particular thread at some point, "Notify" is the way to go.


(Not telling anyone what to do; just pointing out a feature that some people have asked about.)
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: CakeEater on December 04, 2012, 05:53:52 AM
Just posting for updates.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: sparksals on December 04, 2012, 06:09:03 AM
Using "Notify" does have an advantage in that you can cancel it and stop getting notified when there are new posts.

Posting in the thread for an update means that you will always see that thread in your "Show new replies." Some people have asked how to stop that, and really the only way is to not post in a thread. "Notify" will keep you updated and let you cancel the emails.

So if you want the option to stop seeing a particular thread at some point, "Notify" is the way to go.
I

(Not telling anyone what to do; just pointing out a feature that some people have asked about.)

You can unsubscribe from emails of each thread to stop email notifications.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Fleur on December 04, 2012, 06:50:06 AM
Except that if you click "notify" you get an email every time someone posts to the thread, leading to an absolute avalanche in your inbox.


I understand it may be annoying for some people, but I don't intend to stop doing it just because of that. Unless there is a rule against it, I don't see why I, or anyone else should have to change how we do things. It's pretty rare anyway. I know I only do it a couple of times a year.

I agree.

Sorry, OP, but "posting for updates" is much better and you can just skip by those posts.

This, plus I don't think it is appropriate to tell other posters how they should and should not post unless they actually are breaking a board rule.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: POF on December 04, 2012, 06:52:04 AM
Just posting for updates.

I love you ! good one  ;D
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: squeakers on December 04, 2012, 07:28:41 AM
Here's the thread in the Forum announcements folder about this: http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=93938.0

On the one hand some people find it very annoying to think something was added to the conversation only to find it was a "just posting for updates" post/s and on the other hand some people either aren't familiar with how the boards notifications work (whether "notify" or "new") or just don't want/can't use the features.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Miss March on December 04, 2012, 07:48:46 AM
I always thought that several people posting asking the OP if there was any updates was a good way to nudge the OP that people were waiting to hear what came of the situation. If no one posts asking for an update to the situation, the OP might just assume no one cared to hear what ended up happening.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Jones on December 04, 2012, 08:20:10 AM
I always thought that several people posting asking the OP if there was any updates was a good way to nudge the OP that people were waiting to hear what came of the situation. If no one posts asking for an update to the situation, the OP might just assume no one cared to hear what ended up happening.

Yes, I have made this assumption in my own threads. If no one asks me or bumps up the thread I assume the situation is considered closed. I've felt like I was talking to myself, when there wasn't feedback.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Outdoor Girl on December 04, 2012, 08:28:19 AM
I won't use the notify feature - I have enough emails coming in every day that I don't need another bunch to delete.

Generally speaking, if I'm following a thread, I have enough interest in the thread to post an actual comment.  And that way, I get the updates.  Sometimes I have to stretch to have something to comment on - and it is probably obvious that I'm posting for updates - but I don't actually say, 'Posting for updates.'

It is the easiest way to find threads I'm interested in.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Luci on December 04, 2012, 08:49:17 AM
I thought "Posting for updates" was kind of a nudge to the OP to find out if there is any news. It's another way to bring older threads up as a reminder. It just takes a second to hit 'New', glance it it, then page back to the list of threads. I don't mind it at all.

I go to "Show unread posts since your last visit" because there are a lot of threads I'm following and didn't post on, but can't always remember to check. It's quite easy to skim over the listing and skip posts that I am not interested in.

It shows just a few pages and there is that little smilie if I've posted on it. Since the time is on the list, I can even stop skimming; for example, if I know I checked at 10AM and it's now 4PM, I can quit looking because there will be nothing more I am interested in.

I don't use the 'notify' feature at all. I tried and it didn't work well for me.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: doodlemor on December 04, 2012, 08:59:40 AM
I found a  quick way to check for real updates.

First, click on the OP's name by the title of the thread.  When the person's profile comes up, click on "show posts" on the left of the screen.  Then you can read their recent posts, and see if there is an update to the interesting thread.

Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Morrigan on December 04, 2012, 09:06:39 AM
Except that if you click "notify" you get an email every time someone posts to the thread, leading to an absolute avalanche in your inbox.


I understand it may be annoying for some people, but I don't intend to stop doing it just because of that. Unless there is a rule against it, I don't see why I, or anyone else should have to change how we do things. It's pretty rare anyway. I know I only do it a couple of times a year.


I agree.

Sorry, OP, but "posting for updates" is much better and you can just skip by those posts.


Except I don't get any e-mails, and I do 'notify'.  ;)

And it's not the 'skipping by those posts' that's the problem.  It's the problem that sometimes, when I (and others) click on a thread that has new posts, one that I've been following, there's 5, 10, sometimes more than a dozen posts of just 'posting for updates' and nothing actually adding to the thread.  That's my problem with 'posting for updates'.  When there's a different way that won't mislead people into thinking there's actually something substantially added to the thread.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Morrigan on December 04, 2012, 09:08:01 AM
Except that if you click "notify" you get an email every time someone posts to the thread, leading to an absolute avalanche in your inbox.


I understand it may be annoying for some people, but I don't intend to stop doing it just because of that. Unless there is a rule against it, I don't see why I, or anyone else should have to change how we do things. It's pretty rare anyway. I know I only do it a couple of times a year.

I agree.

Sorry, OP, but "posting for updates" is much better and you can just skip by those posts.

This, plus I don't think it is appropriate to tell other posters how they should and should not post unless they actually are breaking a board rule.

Except I didn't tell anyone how to post and how not to post.  I offered an alternative to 'posting for updates'.  Most people don't know what notify does, in my experience.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: RingTailedLemur on December 04, 2012, 09:12:27 AM
Except that if you click "notify" you get an email every time someone posts to the thread, leading to an absolute avalanche in your inbox.


I understand it may be annoying for some people, but I don't intend to stop doing it just because of that. Unless there is a rule against it, I don't see why I, or anyone else should have to change how we do things. It's pretty rare anyway. I know I only do it a couple of times a year.


I agree.

Sorry, OP, but "posting for updates" is much better and you can just skip by those posts.


Except I don't get any e-mails, and I do 'notify'.  ;)


Well, I did it a couple of times and got bombarded.  I'm not doing it again.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: WillyNilly on December 04, 2012, 09:16:21 AM
I don't want email notifications. Period.  EVER.  So to suggest that I should get what I don't want to appease other posters is pretty dismissive.  At the end of the day this is an entertainment site, and we should each get to choose how involved we want to be (so long as no one is breaking the rules).

I also agree "posting for updates" keeps the OP informed that people want updates.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: lowspark on December 04, 2012, 09:29:18 AM
I don't want email notifications. Period.  EVER. 
<snip>
I also agree "posting for updates" keeps the OP informed that people want updates.

Huge POD to this. No way do I want any more emails hitting my inbox, especially on a very active thread.
Now, if there were a way to select certain threads that could appear in a specific "unread" list even though you hadn't posted to them, that would be cool.

And yes, "posting for updates" keeps the thread active and does really indicate that there is further interest to keep the thread going.

I honestly don't see what's bothersome about them. They take about 2 seconds to read, then scroll on by. And I don't really remember ever seeing a dozen of them in a thread, at least not consecutively. I don't think I've seen more than maybe three or four consecutively. Yeah, there may be a bunch spread out through the thread but again, they really aren't much of a nuisance to me. I have to admit, I've never given them a second thought till this discussion popped up.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: joraemi on December 04, 2012, 09:44:07 AM
I always thought that several people posting asking the OP if there was any updates was a good way to nudge the OP that people were waiting to hear what came of the situation. If no one posts asking for an update to the situation, the OP might just assume no one cared to hear what ended up happening.

Yes, I have made this assumption in my own threads. If no one asks me or bumps up the thread I assume the situation is considered closed. I've felt like I was talking to myself, when there wasn't feedback.

POD these.  I post for updates if there hasn't been any activity from the OP and it has been awhile with no additional  information - like some of the other PP, I assume if no one has posted to my thread that there is no interest, so I don't bother posting outcomes of situations, etc.  If someone posts for updates, then I know they are interested.

I don't post for updates in super active threads becasue I figure the OP is still commenting there.

I also hate the bombardement of emails that comes with the "notify" feature.  I just come to the boards and click the ones that I'm watching/participating in.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Morrigan on December 04, 2012, 11:09:02 AM
As has been said before, you DON'T need to get e-mails if you use the 'notify' feature.  You can turn off the e-mail part of it.  I use notify and NEVER get e-mails.




Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Morrigan on December 04, 2012, 11:10:36 AM
I don't want email notifications. Period.  EVER. 
<snip>
I also agree "posting for updates" keeps the OP informed that people want updates.

Huge POD to this. No way do I want any more emails hitting my inbox, especially on a very active thread.
Now, if there were a way to select certain threads that could appear in a specific "unread" list even though you hadn't posted to them, that would be cool.



To the bolded:  ::)  That's what the notify feature is for.  Seriously.  As I just stated, you don't need to get e-mails about it.  You can turn that feature off in your notifications.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: WillyNilly on December 04, 2012, 11:16:35 AM
I don't want email notifications. Period.  EVER. 
<snip>
I also agree "posting for updates" keeps the OP informed that people want updates.

Huge POD to this. No way do I want any more emails hitting my inbox, especially on a very active thread.
Now, if there were a way to select certain threads that could appear in a specific "unread" list even though you hadn't posted to them, that would be cool.



To the bolded:  ::)  That's what the notify feature is for.  Seriously.  As I just stated, you don't need to get e-mails about it.  You can turn that feature off in your notifications.

Listen, its great you like to use the site like that.
But I don't want to.  And I don't have to.  I don't want to check a specific list.  I just want to click into various sub-boards and see what's going on - what new posts, what spin-off posts and what old posts have "new" buttons next to them.

I understand that "posting for updates" can get annoying the once a week or so it happens, but really its up to all of us to determine, within the rules, how we want to use this site.  For many of us, we like the "posting for updates" for reasons mentioned already.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: CakeBeret on December 04, 2012, 11:17:59 AM
I don't want email notifications. Period.  EVER. 
<snip>
I also agree "posting for updates" keeps the OP informed that people want updates.

Huge POD to this. No way do I want any more emails hitting my inbox, especially on a very active thread.
Now, if there were a way to select certain threads that could appear in a specific "unread" list even though you hadn't posted to them, that would be cool.



To the bolded:  ::)  That's what the notify feature is for.  Seriously.  As I just stated, you don't need to get e-mails about it.  You can turn that feature off in your notifications.

Where does the notification go, if not to your email?
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: stargazer on December 04, 2012, 11:23:04 AM
I don't want email notifications. Period.  EVER. 
<snip>
I also agree "posting for updates" keeps the OP informed that people want updates.

Huge POD to this. No way do I want any more emails hitting my inbox, especially on a very active thread.
Now, if there were a way to select certain threads that could appear in a specific "unread" list even though you hadn't posted to them, that would be cool.



To the bolded:  ::)  That's what the notify feature is for.  Seriously.  As I just stated, you don't need to get e-mails about it.  You can turn that feature off in your notifications.

Listen, its great you like to use the site like that.
But I don't want to.  And I don't have to.  I don't want to check a specific list.  I just want to click into various sub-boards and see what's going on - what new posts, what spin-off posts and what old posts have "new" buttons next to them.

I understand that "posting for updates" can get annoying the once a week or so it happens, but really its up to all of us to determine, within the rules, how we want to use this site.  For many of us, we like the "posting for updates" for reasons mentioned already.

Exactly.  "Posting for updates" over and over can get slightly irritating but it does let the OP know we are still interested.  And I will not use the notify feature whether I get emails or not.  I simply prefer to go to each section and check to see if the little "new" button is next to a thread I'm interested in.  It's great you like notify - but you are coming off as rather pushy here.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: oogyda on December 04, 2012, 11:25:11 AM
Except that if you click "notify" you get an email every time someone posts to the thread, leading to an absolute avalanche in your inbox.


I understand it may be annoying for some people, but I don't intend to stop doing it just because of that. Unless there is a rule against it, I don't see why I, or anyone else should have to change how we do things. It's pretty rare anyway. I know I only do it a couple of times a year.

I agree.

Sorry, OP, but "posting for updates" is much better and you can just skip by those posts.

This, plus I don't think it is appropriate to tell other posters how they should and should not post unless they actually are breaking a board rule.

I agree....particularly with the bolded statement.  FWIW, I think I've only asked for updates once in the entire time I've been on the board. 
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Betelnut on December 04, 2012, 11:34:29 AM
I don't want email notifications. Period.  EVER. 
<snip>
I also agree "posting for updates" keeps the OP informed that people want updates.

Huge POD to this. No way do I want any more emails hitting my inbox, especially on a very active thread.
Now, if there were a way to select certain threads that could appear in a specific "unread" list even though you hadn't posted to them, that would be cool.



To the bolded:  ::)  That's what the notify feature is for.  Seriously.  As I just stated, you don't need to get e-mails about it.  You can turn that feature off in your notifications.

Where does the notification go, if not to your email?

Yeah, I don't understand either.  How are you notified if not by email? 

I also think it is a gross exaggeration that there are dozens of posts that say "Posting for updates" on a single thread.  It is actually kind of rare, in my experience.  Sometimes someone will post, "Hey, OP is there an update" but that is different.  In my world, "Posting for updates" means that the person can then look for the thread in the "New replies" section rather than having to search for the thread.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: DottyG on December 04, 2012, 11:36:46 AM
I'm posting this merely as a suggestion - not as telling anyone what to do.

But is it possible to compromise the two views?  If you want to post for updates, maybe just make an actual addition to the thread as well.  I've seen some people do this - they post an actual comment about the issue/thread and then add that they're also posting for updates.  It seems like that's a nice (and polite) way to do it - you get what you're after, but you're also not just adding to the "noise" in the thread; you're making a contribution.

Doing it that way would make everyone happy, I'd think.  You get your notifications, the OP sees that there's real interest (and, to be honest, I think this shows even more interest, because you're actually posting a question or comment about what they've written), and the people who don't like coming in to see just "posting for updates!" aren't annoyed.  Win-win for everyone.




Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: WillyNilly on December 04, 2012, 11:44:06 AM
Its also possible to take mental note of how many replies there are in a thread.  If I am following a thread and I notice "ok its at 18 responses, 2 pages" than then see the "new" button I look, oh, its still at 2 pages, and the latest post wasn't the OP.  But here's a new topic that looks interesting.  I'll read the new thread first.  Later I might see "wow, that other thread is up to 33 responses, 3 pages" and check out where the conversation has gone. 

I've been doing that with the stolen turkey dinner thread - lately I only check it every 10 or so posts... unless I see grammarnerd posts, then I'd check it right away.  If requests for updates bug you, once you see that's where a thread is going, just don't check it as often.  If new posts are slow, its probably a request, if they suddenly spike, its probably due to an update.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Morrigan on December 04, 2012, 11:45:49 AM
I don't want email notifications. Period.  EVER. 
<snip>
I also agree "posting for updates" keeps the OP informed that people want updates.

Huge POD to this. No way do I want any more emails hitting my inbox, especially on a very active thread.
Now, if there were a way to select certain threads that could appear in a specific "unread" list even though you hadn't posted to them, that would be cool.



To the bolded:  ::)  That's what the notify feature is for.  Seriously.  As I just stated, you don't need to get e-mails about it.  You can turn that feature off in your notifications.

Where does the notification go, if not to your email?

To my notifications.  If you read my first post, I explain how to get there.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Morrigan on December 04, 2012, 11:46:56 AM
I'm posting this merely as a suggestion - not as telling anyone what to do.

But is it possible to compromise the two views?  If you want to post for updates, maybe just make an actual addition to the thread as well.  I've seen some people do this - they post an actual comment about the issue/thread and then add that they're also posting for updates.  It seems like that's a nice (and polite) way to do it - you get what you're after, but you're also not just adding to the "noise" in the thread; you're making a contribution.

Doing it that way would make everyone happy, I'd think.  You get your notifications, the OP sees that there's real interest (and, to be honest, I think this shows even more interest, because you're actually posting a question or comment about what they've written), and the people who don't like coming in to see just "posting for updates!" aren't annoyed.  Win-win for everyone.

Now, I don't mind when I see posts like that, Dotty, because they're not just posting for updates.  They're adding to the thread.  It's the posts (and sometimes, post after post after post) that are literally just 'posting for updates'.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: DottyG on December 04, 2012, 11:48:22 AM
WillyNilly, that method works if you're online and watching the thread.  But not really as well if you've been away from the computer for a while.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: DottyG on December 04, 2012, 11:50:05 AM
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Now, I don't mind when I see posts like that, Dotty, because they're not just posting for updates.  They're adding to the thread.  It's the posts (and sometimes, post after post after post) that are literally just 'posting for updates'.

And I think it's a fair compromise to both sides.  That seems like a way for both sides of the issue to get what they want/need in the most polite way (which is not a bad thing for an etiquette site! :D)

Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: DottyG on December 04, 2012, 11:55:22 AM
Looks like RainhaDoTexugo proposed the same thing in the other thread.  I'd forgotten about that.

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I'm really not a huge fan of posting for updates, it just doesn't seem to fit right here at ehell, in my opinion.  Posting for updates and making an attempt to add something to the conversation, even if it's just "Mostly just posting for updates.  Good luck with your MIL, OP!" or something simple doesn't bother me so much, and I know I've done it a few times.  It acknowledges that the OP exists and is possibly trying to solve a problem, whereas just "posting for updates" seems, to me, to be dismissing the OP in a way.  When I'm just posting for updates, I try to disguise it :)

Edited to include the full name of the poster I quoted
 
 
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: WillyNilly on December 04, 2012, 12:00:10 PM
WillyNilly, that method works if you're online and watching the thread.  But not really as well if you've been away from the computer for a while.

Which why there are other methods.

My ways work well for me.  I have no interest in adapting my methods to methods that work well for others.  If my way doesn't work for someone else they can use whatever method best serves them (notifications or whatever).  That's the point.  Morrigan is asking all of us to adapt our usage of this site to the method that best serves Morrigan.  I will not do that, and I'm not impressed with even being asked to do so.  I will continue to utilize the usage methods that best serve me.  Posting for updates is allowed, and therefore a perfectly valid use of this site.

Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: DottyG on December 04, 2012, 12:01:33 PM
WN, fair enough.  Would you be willing to compromise, then?

(Editing to say "then" instead of "though" - it fit better when I reread it)
 
 
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Morrigan on December 04, 2012, 12:07:39 PM
I would guess not.

I'm not asking just for the "methods that best serve Morrigan", though.

If you'll actually read what I wrote, Willy, others also have the same complaints as me.  Read the thread linked that someone posted.  Same complaints.

Why are you so offended that I offered another suggestion?
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: CakeBeret on December 04, 2012, 12:14:48 PM
I don't want email notifications. Period.  EVER. 
<snip>
I also agree "posting for updates" keeps the OP informed that people want updates.

Huge POD to this. No way do I want any more emails hitting my inbox, especially on a very active thread.
Now, if there were a way to select certain threads that could appear in a specific "unread" list even though you hadn't posted to them, that would be cool.



To the bolded:  ::)  That's what the notify feature is for.  Seriously.  As I just stated, you don't need to get e-mails about it.  You can turn that feature off in your notifications.

Where does the notification go, if not to your email?

To my notifications.  If you read my first post, I explain how to get there.

Ah, okay. That's not something I'd do on a regular basis. Generally if I *really* want to follow a thread, I'll post something other than "posting for updates". I might say "Good luck, OP, let us know how it turns out!" or "I'm curious to see how X responds, please update us."
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Morrigan on December 04, 2012, 12:30:06 PM
Like I said, CB, that kind of stuff makes sense to me.  It adds something to the discussion.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: WillyNilly on December 04, 2012, 12:58:22 PM
WN, fair enough.  Would you be willing to compromise, then?

(Editing to say "then" instead of "though" - it fit better when I reread it)

Well the thing is, I've never actully posted a "posting for updates" myself, I merely appreciate the process, so I'm not sure how I can participate in the compromise, except I guess to say, yes I agre its more enjoyable when the request comes with a bit more to read on the overall topic.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Morrigan on December 04, 2012, 01:09:37 PM
WN, fair enough.  Would you be willing to compromise, then?

(Editing to say "then" instead of "though" - it fit better when I reread it)

Well the thing is, I've never actully posted a "posting for updates" myself, I merely appreciate the process, so I'm not sure how I can participate in the compromise, except I guess to say, yes I agre its more enjoyable when the request comes with a bit more to read on the overall topic.

 ???

So you're being argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative?  If you don't do it, then how does my suggestion even apply to you?

Hint?  It doesn't.   ;)
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: sourwolf on December 04, 2012, 01:15:36 PM
Looks like Rain proposed the same thing in the other thread.  I'd forgotten about that.

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I'm really not a huge fan of posting for updates, it just doesn't seem to fit right here at ehell, in my opinion.  Posting for updates and making an attempt to add something to the conversation, even if it's just "Mostly just posting for updates.  Good luck with your MIL, OP!" or something simple doesn't bother me so much, and I know I've done it a few times.  It acknowledges that the OP exists and is possibly trying to solve a problem, whereas just "posting for updates" seems, to me, to be dismissing the OP in a way.  When I'm just posting for updates, I try to disguise it :)

Who is Rain?

Nevermind, I'm assuming you were referring to RainhaDoTexugo?
Not telling anyone how to post but if you are going to quote from a poster it would probably be helpful to actually quote them so everyone would know who the original quote was from, instead of including just the quote and a nickname. Plus that would provide a link back to the original thread for context.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Fleur on December 04, 2012, 01:18:06 PM
I would guess not.

I'm not asking just for the "methods that best serve Morrigan", though.

If you'll actually read what I wrote, Willy, others also have the same complaints as me.  Read the thread linked that someone posted.  Same complaints.

Why are you so offended that I offered another suggestion?

I don't know about WN, but I think it is rude to tell others what they should post, which despite your protestations, is what you are doing. Unless you are a mod 'suggesting' is not appropriate.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: WillyNilly on December 04, 2012, 01:31:52 PM
WN, fair enough.  Would you be willing to compromise, then?

(Editing to say "then" instead of "though" - it fit better when I reread it)

Well the thing is, I've never actully posted a "posting for updates" myself, I merely appreciate the process, so I'm not sure how I can participate in the compromise, except I guess to say, yes I agre its more enjoyable when the request comes with a bit more to read on the overall topic.

 ???

So you're being argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative?  If you don't do it, then how does my suggestion even apply to you?

Hint?  It doesn't.   ;)

Wow.  That's really snarky.  For someone making suggestions on how to post on an etiquette board that pretty outrageous.

Your suggestion/ this thread applies to me because as I - and several others - have posted I like the posts for updates.  They alert the OP there is continued interest in a thread.  I also see them as encouraging the conversation to continue - sometimes a poster wants to comment but won't because a thread has been sitting dormant.  If there have been several bumps for updates, other posters will feel more comfortable adding their piece as it keeps the thread alive.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: FauxFoodist on December 04, 2012, 01:36:02 PM
Wow, I have to say I never would've thought this would be such a heated issue.

There are several things I come across in the forum that are annoying; they just aren't worth worrying about for more than a moment.  Do I like receiving a notification of a new post only to learn it's just someone posting for updates?  No, but I just click out of the thread and move on.  I could see how someone posting for an update in an old thread would help the OP.  I know there are 2-3 threads I've started that I always meant to update.  I figure if someone were still interested in an update, the person would ask.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: wolfie on December 04, 2012, 01:36:27 PM
WN, fair enough.  Would you be willing to compromise, then?

(Editing to say "then" instead of "though" - it fit better when I reread it)

Well the thing is, I've never actully posted a "posting for updates" myself, I merely appreciate the process, so I'm not sure how I can participate in the compromise, except I guess to say, yes I agre its more enjoyable when the request comes with a bit more to read on the overall topic.

 ???

So you're being argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative?  If you don't do it, then how does my suggestion even apply to you?

Hint?  It doesn't.   ;)

Wow.  That's really snarky.  For someone making suggestions on how to post on an etiquette board that pretty outrageous.

Your suggestion/ this thread applies to me because as I - and several others - have posted I like the posts for updates.  They alert the OP there is continued interest in a thread.  I also see them as encouraging the conversation to continue - sometimes a poster wants to comment but won't because a thread has been sitting dormant.  If there have been several bumps for updates, other posters will feel more comfortable adding their piece as it keeps the thread alive.

I will disagree with that. The more "posting for updates" posts in a row in a thread, the less likely I will be to post in it because it feels like the thread has been derailed and I feel like if I post on topic it is as if I am changing the subject.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: DottyG on December 04, 2012, 01:51:32 PM
sourwolf, unfortunately, the computer doesn't allow me to use the Quote feature.  It's a problem that occurred after one of the updates to the software that I told the mods/EHellDame about.  However, it appears that it's not something that can be fixed for now.  I can use it on my phone, but not on the computer.  Go figure!

You are correct, however, in saying that I should have included the full name of the person I was referencing.  I've updated my post to do that.  Thanks!

Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: CaptainObvious on December 04, 2012, 01:53:24 PM
WN, fair enough.  Would you be willing to compromise, then?

(Editing to say "then" instead of "though" - it fit better when I reread it)

Well the thing is, I've never actully posted a "posting for updates" myself, I merely appreciate the process, so I'm not sure how I can participate in the compromise, except I guess to say, yes I agre its more enjoyable when the request comes with a bit more to read on the overall topic.

 ???

So you're being argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative?  If you don't do it, then how does my suggestion even apply to you?

Hint?  It doesn't.   ;)

Wow.  That's really snarky.  For someone making suggestions on how to post on an etiquette board that pretty outrageous.

Your suggestion/ this thread applies to me because as I - and several others - have posted I like the posts for updates.  They alert the OP there is continued interest in a thread.  I also see them as encouraging the conversation to continue - sometimes a poster wants to comment but won't because a thread has been sitting dormant.  If there have been several bumps for updates, other posters will feel more comfortable adding their piece as it keeps the thread alive.

I will disagree with that. The more "posting for updates" posts in a row in a thread, the less likely I will be to post in it because it feels like the thread has been derailed and I feel like if I post on topic it is as if I am changing the subject.

To me, when I see the "posting for updates" start up, it tells me the thread is dead and I no longer check it.
Title: Re: Posting for updates - please don't!
Post by: Wordgeek on December 04, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
Do stop squabbling like children.  It isn't appreciated.