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Title: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: snowdragon on January 24, 2013, 01:20:20 PM
 So I was virtuous today and got down on hands and knees and gave the floor and walls a  proper scrubbing, worthy of my great grandma.  It took me 2.5 hours to just do the kitchen and just as I was finishing up that room my aunt who live less than a mile a way stopped on the way home from somewhere to use the bathroom.  Aunt tried to walk in the house with her snowy boots on and I told her I had just washed the floor to take them off. Aunt's reply was "you'll just have to wipe up after me" . When I refused to move out of her way to allow her to walk on the floor with boots on - she got indignant and told me that I was rude for "Putting the floor before me" and stormed out.
  This aunt has many times walked around our house in stocking feet, so that is not the issue.  I am put out that she thought I should have to re-wash the floor because she could not take her boots off...she would have in any of her sister's homes, she is put out that I wouldn't allow her to wear her snowy boots on my freshly washed floor.
    She wants an apology for my being "rude" to her.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: Outdoor Girl on January 24, 2013, 01:30:23 PM
If she were my aunt, she'd be waiting a long time.

My housekeeping skills are minimal, at best.  Most of the time, I tell people to leave their shoes on.  But even I draw the line at snowy boots!  And if I'd just washed the floor?  Don't even think about stepping on that floor with snowy boots on.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: cicero on January 24, 2013, 01:34:00 PM
i say: let her stew.

she is being ridiculous.

I wash my floors once a week - nobody walks on the floor until it's dry, otherwise it streaks. DS know that in an emergecny he can wear socks and dash into the bathroom, but otherwise you wait.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: stitchygreyanonymouse on January 24, 2013, 01:38:20 PM
Wait, your aunt stopped by unannounced, less than a mile from home, to use the bathroom? And she calls you rude? Never mind the rest of the episode.

If she were mine, she’d be waiting for eternity for an apology about the shoe thing. If it weren’t rude to point out rudeness, I’d be requesting an apology for the unexpected drop by and verbal abuse.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: LeveeWoman on January 24, 2013, 01:49:01 PM
Wait, your aunt stopped by unannounced, less than a mile from home, to use the bathroom? And she calls you rude? Never mind the rest of the episode.

If she were mine, she’d be waiting for eternity for an apology about the shoe thing. If it weren’t rude to point out rudeness, I’d be requesting an apology for the unexpected drop by and verbal abuse.

It sounds as if she wanted to mark snowdragon's house in two ways.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: MrTango on January 24, 2013, 01:54:38 PM
Wait, your aunt stopped by unannounced, less than a mile from home, to use the bathroom? And she calls you rude? Never mind the rest of the episode.

If she were mine, she’d be waiting for eternity for an apology about the shoe thing. If it weren’t rude to point out rudeness, I’d be requesting an apology for the unexpected drop by and verbal abuse.

It sounds as if she wanted to mark snowdragon's house in two ways.

*snert*

No.  Even more broadly, if someone makes a decision that they do not want shoes worn in their home, then it is rude to insist on wearing shoes in their home.  This is especially true in this case, as the aunt's shoes were covered in snow.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: MorgnsGrl on January 24, 2013, 02:06:25 PM
I don't think you were rude at all! I think *she* was rude for thinking it was reasonable for her to walk her filthy boots all over your freshly washed floor.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: TootsNYC on January 24, 2013, 02:10:31 PM
If you wanted her to take her boots off OUTSIDE, on the snowy back porch, I would say you were rude, and that you should have let her inside so she could stand just inside the door to take them off. And she should have stopped right inside the door to take them off while you got her a stool or chair to sit on while she did it.

I only say this because you wrote, "When I refused to move out of her way to allow her to walk on the floor with boots on..."

If, however, you have a transition area where she could be out of the snow and cold to take her boots off, then you weren't rude. I'm sure she didn't want to step in the snow from her own boots, so offering her a towel or rug to stand on would have been hospitable of you.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: camlan on January 24, 2013, 02:17:07 PM
I'll start by admitting that I'm a shoes-on in the house type of person.

However, I would never wear snowy (or wet or muddy or dirty) boots into someone's home, not even my own. Messy footwear of any type gets removed at the door.

And just washed floors that are still wet? Those don't get walked on unless absolutely necessary.

So I think the OP's aunt failed on two counts. And the OP was not rude.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: snowdragon on January 24, 2013, 02:17:28 PM
If you wanted her to take her boots off OUTSIDE, on the snowy back porch, I would say you were rude, and that you should have let her inside so she could stand just inside the door to take them off. And she should have stopped right inside the door to take them off while you got her a stool or chair to sit on while she did it.

I only say this because you wrote, "When I refused to move out of her way to allow her to walk on the floor with boots on..."

If, however, you have a transition area where she could be out of the snow and cold to take her boots off, then you weren't rude. I'm sure she didn't want to step in the snow from her own boots, so offering her a towel or rug to stand on would have been hospitable of you.

She was in the heated garage on a carpeted welcome mat - same place everyone takes their boots off.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: TootsNYC on January 24, 2013, 02:35:44 PM
then you are not rude.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: Iris on January 24, 2013, 04:22:38 PM
     She wants an apology for my being "rude" to her.

And I want to live in a castle with David Tennant. What's her point?
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: TootsNYC on January 24, 2013, 04:24:41 PM
you know what's so rude? Her saying, 'you'll just have to clean up after me."

I can think of tons of things I'd have said.

Like, "I'll help you clean up, but I gotta go right now, I can't wait, that's why I stopped, I'm sorry." While I danced in the doorway.

Or even "It's not that much, it's just water," or "my boots aren't really dirty" (questionable truth, of course--but still not the same breathtaking arrogance as "you'll have to clean up after me")
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: perpetua on January 24, 2013, 04:25:04 PM
If she lives less than a mile away and had to stop at yours to use the bathroom, any chance she didn't have time to take off her boots?
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: TootsNYC on January 24, 2013, 04:27:40 PM
I wondered that as well, but she didn't say so. I sure would have!
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: buvezdevin on January 24, 2013, 04:41:17 PM
I would have wondered at the urgency, but the aunt apparently took offense at OP "putting the floor before" the aunt in consideration, instead of the aunt expressing an urgent need.  That, coupled with "you'll have to clean uo after me" rather than "I will clean up, but need to come in quickly" sure sounds like a lot of entitlement on Aunt's part.

I am also thinking that if Aunt has the ability, and time for walking distances in the snow, she is capable of cleaning up a floor she has tracked across.

I would not be extending an apology, though I would be open to receiving one.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: snowdragon on January 24, 2013, 04:45:33 PM
If she lives less than a mile away and had to stop at yours to use the bathroom, any chance she didn't have time to take off her boots?

She would have said so. But either way I would not be too happy to have rescrub the floor because she didn't. If it were that desperate she could have stopped at either the gas station or the donut shop ( Tim Horton's) at the either end of my street and gotten to the bathroom sooner.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: Thipu1 on January 24, 2013, 04:47:03 PM
I know that families differ about what is considered acceptable behavior by relatives but this seems a bit over the top in a few ways. 

Are Snowdragon's relatives in the habit of using her home as a comfort station?  I hope not.

We're a shoes-on household but would never think of going in any home with wet, snowy or muddy footwear unless we were coming in to save someone from a fire. It doesn't matter if Aunt was at the doctor's office or out shopping, there was probably a place she could relieve herself and not drop in unannounced.

If a floor has been freshly washed, there's an extra reason to deny immediate access. 

No.  Aunt was wrong here and doubly wrong to demand an apology from Snowdragon. 

As my Grandmother said at the middle of the 20 th century, 'In this age of the telephone, there is no reason for dropping in without calling first.'
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: oopsie on January 24, 2013, 07:28:22 PM
Yeah, your aunt was definitely rude on so very many different levels. Accusing you of being rude is the cherry on the rude sundae. Makes my head spin actually.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: Hmmmmm on January 24, 2013, 07:34:55 PM
Who were you saving the freshly washed floors for? I get the idea of asking someone to not walk in wet floors because they end up with oot prints.  But if the floor is dry, how long we're you planning on them being a no walk zone? Or is the issue not that the floors were freshly washed but that you didn't want snowy boots in your house.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: Luci on January 24, 2013, 07:46:02 PM
I guess she didn't have to use the restroom very badly if she chose to give the comment and leave rather than complying with your request!

I also am a shoes on in the house person, but, as others have said, not on a damp newly washed floor with snow.

I would have wondered at the urgency, but the aunt apparently took offense at OP "putting the floor before" the aunt in consideration, instead of the aunt expressing an urgent need.

Nicely put!
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: Knitterly on January 24, 2013, 08:33:23 PM
Wait, your aunt stopped by unannounced, less than a mile from home, to use the bathroom? And she calls you rude? Never mind the rest of the episode.

If she were mine, she’d be waiting for eternity for an apology about the shoe thing. If it weren’t rude to point out rudeness, I’d be requesting an apology for the unexpected drop by and verbal abuse.

It sounds as if she wanted to mark snowdragon's house in two ways.

*snert*

No.  Even more broadly, if someone makes a decision that they do not want shoes worn in their home, then it is rude to insist on wearing shoes in their home.  This is especially true in this case, as the aunt's shoes were covered in snow.

I agree with this!  Completely!

Also, even if someone is generally okay with people leaving their shoes on, I still think it's pretty rude to track snow through someone's house, freshly washed floors or not.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: Rohanna on January 24, 2013, 09:16:48 PM
Who were you saving the freshly washed floors for? I get the idea of asking someone to not walk in wet floors because they end up with oot prints.  But if the floor is dry, how long we're you planning on them being a no walk zone? Or is the issue not that the floors were freshly washed but that you didn't want snowy boots in your house.

If the floors weren't freshly washed, then one would feel a little less annoyed because they could probably use a cleaning anyways- so the effort of cleaning them wouldn't be "wasted".
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: snowdragon on January 24, 2013, 09:44:14 PM
Who were you saving the freshly washed floors for? I get the idea of asking someone to not walk in wet floors because they end up with oot prints.  But if the floor is dry, how long we're you planning on them being a no walk zone? Or is the issue not that the floors were freshly washed but that you didn't want snowy boots in your house.

 Why do I have to justify any of that? Really, this is my home, I just spent a good deal of time cleaning it and someone who does not live here gets to mess it up at will and I have to justify not wanting it messed up and how long I want it remain clean and who I want walking on it?
   People who exhibit common courtesy will be welcome, those who can't will not be.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: jaxsue on January 24, 2013, 11:11:06 PM
Who were you saving the freshly washed floors for? I get the idea of asking someone to not walk in wet floors because they end up with oot prints.  But if the floor is dry, how long we're you planning on them being a no walk zone? Or is the issue not that the floors were freshly washed but that you didn't want snowy boots in your house.

I don't think the OP needs to defend her motives. Even if my floors hadn't just been mopped, I wouldn't let people track snow, mud, or leaves in.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: CakeEater on January 25, 2013, 06:22:26 AM
Who were you saving the freshly washed floors for? I get the idea of asking someone to not walk in wet floors because they end up with oot prints.  But if the floor is dry, how long we're you planning on them being a no walk zone? Or is the issue not that the floors were freshly washed but that you didn't want snowy boots in your house.

 Why do I have to justify any of that? Really, this is my home, I just spent a good deal of time cleaning it and someone who does not live here gets to mess it up at will and I have to justify not wanting it messed up and how long I want it remain clean and who I want walking on it?
   People who exhibit common courtesy will be welcome, those who can't will not be.

Sounds like you have already decided that you weren't rude.

Because really, just answering the question in your title, I would say that yes, it is rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floors, assuming the floor was dry. Floors are for walking on, after all, and at some point after washing, they will get dirty again, so making people keep off them completely as a general rule for an unspecified length of time is a bit pointless, and I think, rude to whoever is needing to walk on them.

Your actual question doesn't really have to do with the freshly-washed state of the floors - it has more to do with asking someone to take their wet, dirty shoes off in your house. I suspect that most here would object to someone doing that, regardless of the state of their floors beforehand. I would, and I'm very much a shoes on in the house kind of person.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: HoneyBee42 on January 25, 2013, 07:00:06 AM
I agree that the OP doesn't have to justify--but I also agree that there's a special annoyance factor involved when one has *just* completed a cleaning project and someone comes along and deliberately messes it up before you've had time to enjoy the cleanliness.

For me, it used to be the bathroom sink--I have a "thing" about toothpaste spit.  When I was still married and homeschooled the children, I would clean our bathroom once a week and I'd get that sink all shined-up.  My children could manage to brush their teeth after lunch and wash the toothpaste down.  But my now-ex used to come home from work, brush his teeth and leave toothpaste spit *all over* the sink and leave skidmarks on the toilet seat.  I'd ask him if he could make the effort to wash it down so that I could have at least 24 hours of clean sink.  Never happened.  Once I kicked him to the curb (not over the toothpaste spit and skidmarks on the toilet seat), I haven't had to deal with toothpaste spit in my sink since.  Same thing with my kitchen floor--in that house, one entered through the laundry room (where five of six of us took off shoes, guess who didn't) and from the laundry room through the kitchen into the rest of the house.  It was as though as soon as he came home and saw I had cleaned any particular thing, he *had* to make a mess on it (tracking snow across a dry, yet clean, kitchen floor, making a PBJ and smearing PB and jelly on the counter and leaving it *and* leaving the jars open right where he used them).  Funny how, once we removed one person from the household, the work load of keeping the place clean lightened by more than 50%.

Yes, floors are for walking on, and they tend to get dirty as a result.  But when the OP says "just finished" I'm picturing a floor that may still have some wet spots and she hadn't yet had time to stand in the room doorway and smile over the results of her efforts.  People who live in the house generally know (unless they're rude boors like my ex) that when some cleaning work has just been finished that it's not ok to deliberately mess it up.   Someone who doesn't even live there dismissively intending to make a mess and act like it's no big deal to just "wipe up after"--that's just astonishingly rude, particularly given that the OP mentioned that the aunt wouldn't have had an issue doing that w/ someone who is "on her same tier" (i.e., a sister instead of a niece) and that aunt had plenty of other bathroom options that wouldn't involve imposing on anyone.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: Hmmmmm on January 25, 2013, 07:27:22 AM
Who were you saving the freshly washed floors for? I get the idea of asking someone to not walk in wet floors because they end up with oot prints.  But if the floor is dry, how long we're you planning on them being a no walk zone? Or is the issue not that the floors were freshly washed but that you didn't want snowy boots in your house.

 Why do I have to justify any of that? Really, this is my home, I just spent a good deal of time cleaning it and someone who does not live here gets to mess it up at will and I have to justify not wanting it messed up and how long I want it remain clean and who I want walking on it?
   People who exhibit common courtesy will be welcome, those who can't will not be.

Sounds like you have already decided that you weren't rude.

Because really, just answering the question in your title, I would say that yes, it is rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floors, assuming the floor was dry. Floors are for walking on, after all, and at some point after washing, they will get dirty again, so making people keep off them completely as a general rule for an unspecified length of time is a bit pointless, and I think, rude to whoever is needing to walk on them.

Your actual question doesn't really have to do with the freshly-washed state of the floors - it has more to do with asking someone to take their wet, dirty shoes off in your house. I suspect that most here would object to someone doing that, regardless of the state of their floors beforehand. I would, and I'm very much a shoes on in the house kind of person.
Thanks, Cake earner, you got to the heart of my questions. 

Snowdragon, not sure about why my question made you feel defensive. If I had cleaned in preparation of a party later in the day then I would be more protective of them staying spotless. And I completely understand not wanting wet moody boots tramped through my house whether they are on freshly washed floors or ones that I hadn't cleaned in a week.  I just don't understand the correlation to asking someone to take off moody boots and the fact that your floors were newly clean or the amount of time you had put in cleaning them.

And based on your last paragraph, are you really asking us to confirm your belief that she was rude? Because you obviously believe you are in the right.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: Knitterly on January 25, 2013, 08:08:48 AM
If she lives less than a mile away and had to stop at yours to use the bathroom, any chance she didn't have time to take off her boots?

She would have said so. But either way I would not be too happy to have rescrub the floor because she didn't. If it were that desperate she could have stopped at either the gas station or the donut shop ( Tim Horton's) at the either end of my street and gotten to the bathroom sooner.

Your reference to Tim Horton's indicates you're probably Canadian, is that right?

As another Canadian, I just want to point out that it is generally considered very rude to wear one's outdoor shoes inside during the winter.  Other Canadians on the board (I know there are several of us) can confirm this.

In fact, even if someone is generally fine with guests wearing shoes inside, it is generally considered quite rude to do this in the winter.

So, I really don't think snowdragon was remotely rude by insisting her guest take off her shoes at the door. 

Who were you saving the freshly washed floors for? I get the idea of asking someone to not walk in wet floors because they end up with oot prints.  But if the floor is dry, how long we're you planning on them being a no walk zone? Or is the issue not that the floors were freshly washed but that you didn't want snowy boots in your house.

 Why do I have to justify any of that? Really, this is my home, I just spent a good deal of time cleaning it and someone who does not live here gets to mess it up at will and I have to justify not wanting it messed up and how long I want it remain clean and who I want walking on it?
   People who exhibit common courtesy will be welcome, those who can't will not be.

Sounds like you have already decided that you weren't rude.

Because really, just answering the question in your title, I would say that yes, it is rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floors, assuming the floor was dry. Floors are for walking on, after all, and at some point after washing, they will get dirty again, so making people keep off them completely as a general rule for an unspecified length of time is a bit pointless, and I think, rude to whoever is needing to walk on them.

Your actual question doesn't really have to do with the freshly-washed state of the floors - it has more to do with asking someone to take their wet, dirty shoes off in your house. I suspect that most here would object to someone doing that, regardless of the state of their floors beforehand. I would, and I'm very much a shoes on in the house kind of person.
Thanks, Cake earner, you got to the heart of my questions. 

Snowdragon, not sure about why my question made you feel defensive. If I had cleaned in preparation of a party later in the day then I would be more protective of them staying spotless. And I completely understand not wanting wet moody boots tramped through my house whether they are on freshly washed floors or ones that I hadn't cleaned in a week. I just don't understand the correlation to asking someone to take off moody boots and the fact that your floors were newly clean or the amount of time you had put in cleaning them.

And based on your last paragraph, are you really asking us to confirm your belief that she was rude? Because you obviously believe you are in the right.

I'm not answering for the OP, just stating what my feelings are on the matter... I am less opposed to someone tracking mud/snow/dirt on my floor if it needs to be washed vs tracking mud/snow/dirt on a floor that I have *just* washed.  If I haven't washed my floors in a few days, I am more likely to brush it off knowing that I can just wash my floor when they are done.  But if I have just done it, I get really irritated because I just finished and now I need to do it again?!?!  (Auuuuuugh!!!) 

Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: jaxsue on January 25, 2013, 09:01:31 AM
Knitterly is right about wearing shoes inside, especially during the winter, in Canada. I have both US/Canadian citizenship and have spent considerable time there, so I'm familiar with that. And that was a rule where I grew up, in N MI; you didn't walk on peoples' floors with snowy/muddy boots.

That's why we had "snow porches." it's where you removed your boots.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: pwv on January 25, 2013, 09:11:04 AM
OT - I'm getting ads at the bottom of these pages for Stanely Steemer and Merry Maids.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: rose red on January 25, 2013, 09:15:06 AM
Even if I haven't washed the floor for weeks, I don't want snow and mud tracked in.  I can't even imagine anyone wanting to mess up other people's floor.  The OP is not rude to ask her aunt to take off her shoes first.  The aunt should have done it or offered to without the OP even asking because that's the polite thing, but since she didn't, the OP wasn't rude in her request.

The aunt should also have called first before just showing up unannounced and making demands, but that's another thread.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: GrammarNerd on January 25, 2013, 09:47:04 AM
I think it just boils down to two things: the expectation by the aunt that she could just walk in, unannounced and uninvited and expect to use the OP's facilities, and then the blatant disrespect  and assumption that she was ENTITLED to get the OP's house dirty just because she didn't want to take care of a common courtesy of taking off her shoes.  Furthermore, she assumed that the OP should just clean up after her. 

Uh....no. 

The cleanly washed floors just exacerbates the problem.  It's only natural that once you give something a good cleaning, you would expect it/want it to stay as clean as possible for as long as possible.  I asked my kid to clean something, and he whined 'well, how do I know that it will STAY clean?  I don't want to clean it if people are just going to mess it up again.'  Yes, it will get messy again....that's life.  But to intentionally mess something that was JUST cleaned because you're too lazy/entitled to take necessary precautions...well, that's disrespectful and dismissive of the OP's efforts and the fact that nobody has the right to come into someone else's home, make a mess and then expect the homeowner to clean it up.

And the aunt calling the OP rude?  Yeah, rude people usually deflect like that when they, themselves are the rude ones.  They try to take the attention away from their own bad behavior by going on the defensive and calling someone else rude.  Exactly what the aunt did. 

You're fine, OP.  And no way would I be apologizing to the aunt.  In fact, if it was brought up to me again, I would go all outraged on her and tell her that in YOUR house, NOBODY gets to intentionally make a mess and then expect someone else to clean it up (asserting your independence as an adult here), let alone someone who doesn't even live there, which is what she told you to do.  And (said with a sweet smile) in the future, please call first before just dropping by unannounced to make sure that you're up for visitors.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: TootsNYC on January 25, 2013, 10:05:15 AM
If she brings it up again, just be really bewildered:

"But you had snow on your boots! I guess I just don't get it--why you refused to take them off."

And if anyone else brings it up (because she'll crab to them), just be really bewildered. "But she had snow on her boots! And the floor had just been washed. I still don't understand why she didn't just take her boots off. It's winter in Canada!"

Do NOT get defensive. Do NOT justify, a..., defend, or explain. (I can't remember the "a" word).

Be very careful with your tone of voice, you are painting a picture, setting a mood. (In singing, they call this "tone painting.") You are cueing other people about how to view this.

Which is, "I'm just sort of bewildered--why didn't she realize that it's completely normal to take one's snowy boots off before entering someone home. And then since I told her I'd *just* washed the floor, I really am sort of puzzled."


(I don't think it's so horrible for an aunt to think she could drop by unannounced and use the bathroom.)
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: Hmmmmm on January 25, 2013, 11:40:33 AM
OT - I'm getting ads at the bottom of these pages for Stanely Steemer and Merry Maids.
Me to. The other day I had been looking at hotels in Madrid and noticed the ads were in Spanish for Soecial K cereal.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: snowdragon on January 25, 2013, 11:47:29 AM
Who were you saving the freshly washed floors for? I get the idea of asking someone to not walk in wet floors because they end up with oot prints.  But if the floor is dry, how long we're you planning on them being a no walk zone? Or is the issue not that the floors were freshly washed but that you didn't want snowy boots in your house.

 Why do I have to justify any of that? Really, this is my home, I just spent a good deal of time cleaning it and someone who does not live here gets to mess it up at will and I have to justify not wanting it messed up and how long I want it remain clean and who I want walking on it?
   People who exhibit common courtesy will be welcome, those who can't will not be.

Sounds like you have already decided that you weren't rude.

Because really, just answering the question in your title, I would say that yes, it is rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floors, assuming the floor was dry. Floors are for walking on, after all, and at some point after washing, they will get dirty again, so making people keep off them completely as a general rule for an unspecified length of time is a bit pointless, and I think, rude to whoever is needing to walk on them.

Your actual question doesn't really have to do with the freshly-washed state of the floors - it has more to do with asking someone to take their wet, dirty shoes off in your house. I suspect that most here would object to someone doing that, regardless of the state of their floors beforehand. I would, and I'm very much a shoes on in the house kind of person.
Thanks, Cake earner, you got to the heart of my questions. 

Snowdragon, not sure about why my question made you feel defensive. If I had cleaned in preparation of a party later in the day then I would be more protective of them staying spotless. And I completely understand not wanting wet moody boots tramped through my house whether they are on freshly washed floors or ones that I hadn't cleaned in a week.  I just don't understand the correlation to asking someone to take off moody boots and the fact that your floors were newly clean or the amount of time you had put in cleaning them.

And based on your last paragraph, are you really asking us to confirm your belief that she was rude? Because you obviously believe you are in the right.



I answered your attack.  As an adult I should not have to justify wanting to have my home clean, and asking "who I was saving the clean floor for?" is dismissive and the rest of the post came off as I need to justify my wanting not to have to rewash a floor I just washed.
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: snowdragon on January 25, 2013, 12:06:49 PM
If she lives less than a mile away and had to stop at yours to use the bathroom, any chance she didn't have time to take off her boots?

She would have said so. But either way I would not be too happy to have rescrub the floor because she didn't. If it were that desperate she could have stopped at either the gas station or the donut shop ( Tim Horton's) at the either end of my street and gotten to the bathroom sooner.

Your reference to Tim Horton's indicates you're probably Canadian, is that right?

 Buffalo, NY

As another Canadian, I just want to point out that it is generally considered very rude to wear one's outdoor shoes inside during the winter.  Other Canadians on the board (I know there are several of us) can confirm this.

In fact, even if someone is generally fine with guests wearing shoes inside, it is generally considered quite rude to do this in the winter.

So, I really don't think snowdragon was remotely rude by insisting her guest take off her shoes at the door. 

Who were you saving the freshly washed floors for? I get the idea of asking someone to not walk in wet floors because they end up with oot prints.  But if the floor is dry, how long we're you planning on them being a no walk zone? Or is the issue not that the floors were freshly washed but that you didn't want snowy boots in your house.

 Why do I have to justify any of that? Really, this is my home, I just spent a good deal of time cleaning it and someone who does not live here gets to mess it up at will and I have to justify not wanting it messed up and how long I want it remain clean and who I want walking on it?
   People who exhibit common courtesy will be welcome, those who can't will not be.

Sounds like you have already decided that you weren't rude.

Because really, just answering the question in your title, I would say that yes, it is rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floors, assuming the floor was dry. Floors are for walking on, after all, and at some point after washing, they will get dirty again, so making people keep off them completely as a general rule for an unspecified length of time is a bit pointless, and I think, rude to whoever is needing to walk on them.

Your actual question doesn't really have to do with the freshly-washed state of the floors - it has more to do with asking someone to take their wet, dirty shoes off in your house. I suspect that most here would object to someone doing that, regardless of the state of their floors beforehand. I would, and I'm very much a shoes on in the house kind of person.
Thanks, Cake earner, you got to the heart of my questions. 

Snowdragon, not sure about why my question made you feel defensive. If I had cleaned in preparation of a party later in the day then I would be more protective of them staying spotless. And I completely understand not wanting wet moody boots tramped through my house whether they are on freshly washed floors or ones that I hadn't cleaned in a week. I just don't understand the correlation to asking someone to take off moody boots and the fact that your floors were newly clean or the amount of time you had put in cleaning them.

And based on your last paragraph, are you really asking us to confirm your belief that she was rude? Because you obviously believe you are in the right.

I'm not answering for the OP, just stating what my feelings are on the matter... I am less opposed to someone tracking mud/snow/dirt on my floor if it needs to be washed vs tracking mud/snow/dirt on a floor that I have *just* washed.  If I haven't washed my floors in a few days, I am more likely to brush it off knowing that I can just wash my floor when they are done.  But if I have just done it, I get really irritated because I just finished and now I need to do it again?!?!  (Auuuuuugh!!!)

There is no reason to where shoes in this house, not even to take them off in comfort since the garage is heated and has both a bend and a chair to sit on as you take them off. It's annoying to have to clean up after someone walks in with out taking off their shoes no matter how long it's been because it take a good deal of time to scrub the floor ( and damp mopping makes it look horrid, so I have to do it on hands and knees, aunt knows this. )because of the legnth of time I can't say if the back of the room was still wet or not - but she hit me in the rear end with the door trying to enter, as I was literally there still washing the floor.  I do know that the front 1/2 was still wet.  I don't care if she came with out calling,  most of my relatives do and most of them are reasonable and would never walk on the floor after being asked not to, particularly a freshly washed one.  Yes, she called another aunt to complain, who called me to tell me off and when she found out my side told me I was not at fault and not to worry.   
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: Moray on January 25, 2013, 12:13:51 PM
Who were you saving the freshly washed floors for? I get the idea of asking someone to not walk in wet floors because they end up with oot prints.  But if the floor is dry, how long we're you planning on them being a no walk zone? Or is the issue not that the floors were freshly washed but that you didn't want snowy boots in your house.

 Why do I have to justify any of that? Really, this is my home, I just spent a good deal of time cleaning it and someone who does not live here gets to mess it up at will and I have to justify not wanting it messed up and how long I want it remain clean and who I want walking on it?
   People who exhibit common courtesy will be welcome, those who can't will not be.

Sounds like you have already decided that you weren't rude.

Because really, just answering the question in your title, I would say that yes, it is rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floors, assuming the floor was dry. Floors are for walking on, after all, and at some point after washing, they will get dirty again, so making people keep off them completely as a general rule for an unspecified length of time is a bit pointless, and I think, rude to whoever is needing to walk on them.

Your actual question doesn't really have to do with the freshly-washed state of the floors - it has more to do with asking someone to take their wet, dirty shoes off in your house. I suspect that most here would object to someone doing that, regardless of the state of their floors beforehand. I would, and I'm very much a shoes on in the house kind of person.
Thanks, Cake earner, you got to the heart of my questions. 

Snowdragon, not sure about why my question made you feel defensive. If I had cleaned in preparation of a party later in the day then I would be more protective of them staying spotless. And I completely understand not wanting wet moody boots tramped through my house whether they are on freshly washed floors or ones that I hadn't cleaned in a week.  I just don't understand the correlation to asking someone to take off moody boots and the fact that your floors were newly clean or the amount of time you had put in cleaning them.

And based on your last paragraph, are you really asking us to confirm your belief that she was rude? Because you obviously believe you are in the right.



I answered your attack.  As an adult I should not have to justify wanting to have my home clean, and asking "who I was saving the clean floor for?" is dismissive and the rest of the post came off as I need to justify my wanting not to have to rewash a floor I just washed.

Funny how we read things differently. Hmmmmm's post read to me like it was asking for clarification on whether you were objecting specifically to the snowy, dirty nature of the boots as opposed to someone walking on your floor in general. Her followup post corroborates that interpretation.

You're very sure in your convictions about this matter. What are you looking for aside from validation?
Title: Re: Rude to tell someone not to walk on freshly washed floor?
Post by: Ticia on January 25, 2013, 12:16:29 PM
And another "Shoes on/off in the house" thread bites the dust...