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Title: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: poonkuzhali on March 22, 2013, 05:22:18 PM
Do you consider trying on nail polish before buying rude or do you just consider it sampling?
I am talking about just a small swish on less than half a nail, not painting all 5 nails on hand...
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Beyond The Veil on March 22, 2013, 05:24:30 PM
Rubbing the brush all over your nail that someone else will be using? That's disgusting.

If everyone is allowed to do that, then think of all the germs being passed around. And after a time, that nail polish will be used in this manner so much, that it will be emptied out and the store will lose money.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Snooks on March 22, 2013, 05:26:30 PM
They normally have a sample bottle.  I don't think there's any concern about germs otherwise beauticians would go out of business.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Perfect Circle on March 22, 2013, 05:28:39 PM
I don't think there is anything disgusting about it but opening bottles meant to be sold is effectively stealing and therefore wrong. If there is no tester you should not open one. You could ask a member of staff for help instead.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Moray on March 22, 2013, 05:31:01 PM
Do you consider trying on nail polish before buying rude or do you just consider it sampling?
I am talking about just a small swish on less than half a nail, not painting all 5 nails on hand...

Are we talking from a tester, or opening a bottle which you may or may not purchase?

Testers are there expressly for that purpose. Try away!

Opening a fresh bottle isn't really okay. One, if you (general) have any sort of nail infection or debris on your nail, you risk contaminating the bottle. Snooks, you'll note that if you go for a manicure, they wash your hands first. Infection is a long shot, but still! Two, once the bottle is opened, the clock starts ticking. Granted, opened nail polish has a pretty long shelf life (about 2 years), but it's still not fair to other customers.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: onyonryngs on March 22, 2013, 05:36:08 PM
Rude.  You don't try on a lipstick first if there isn't a tester.  Or shampoo, or lotion, or eyeshadow.  Just because you can open the bottle, doesn't mean you should.  It's not a germ thing though.  I'm pretty sure those chemicals can kill any cooties.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: poonkuzhali on March 22, 2013, 05:36:52 PM
OP here..

The reason I ask... My friend and I were out shopping and we stopped to get her prescriptions in the drugstore.. While waiting for the prescription to be filled, we started browsing the makeup aisle. I was looking at some manicure products and I looked up to see her open a bottle of nail polish and paint it on her nail. I was stunned. She is a very classy lady and I was surprised that she did this. She eventually did purchase the bottle she tried on from. I would never do this and I thought I would ask what e-hell members think of this.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: rose red on March 22, 2013, 05:38:40 PM
I'm not concerned about germs, but I don't buy things that have obviously been opened.  It feels like I'm paying full price for a used/discarded item.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: poonkuzhali on March 22, 2013, 05:41:50 PM
I'm not concerned about germs, but I don't buy things that have obviously been opened.  It feels like I'm paying full price for a used/discarded item.

I agree about the used item feeling....Worse thing is, this item did not have any packaging on top of the nail polish bottle (drugstore brands... what can you say?)... So, if she had put it back no one would know that this has been opened and used... Some innocent woman would be buying this thinking that it is an unused piece.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Yvaine on March 22, 2013, 05:55:16 PM
Yup, it's wrong. I don't know if germs can even live in nail polish--my instinct is that it's a pretty inhospitable environment--but it does deplete the bottle. If everyone who shopped in the store tried it, there would eventually be none left! It's stealing and it's ripping off whoever buys the bottle thinking they're getting the full amount. And I agree with the PP that it might also shorten the shelf life.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: kitchcat on March 22, 2013, 06:02:14 PM
Just playing devil's advocate here on a few points to those who said a "used" bottle of nail polish is gross...
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Sharnita on March 22, 2013, 06:05:14 PM
This has been discussed  before and there seem to be people who  feel strongly on both sides. I think it is fine with a tester, rude otherwise.

The absence of testers simply says to me "Don't test"
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Magnet on March 22, 2013, 06:06:51 PM
It's stealing.  An open bottle is not saleable. 
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: kitchcat on March 22, 2013, 06:08:40 PM
It's stealing.  An open bottle is not saleable.

Just out of curiosity, how would anyone even know it had been opened? There is no seal on most nail polish bottles I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Yvaine on March 22, 2013, 06:13:31 PM
It's stealing.  An open bottle is not saleable.

Just out of curiosity, how would anyone even know it had been opened? There is no seal on most nail polish bottles I've ever seen.

I've seen some with a plastic sleeve-ish thing over the cap, like you might find on other sorts of bottles. But even if there's not one, and it may still be saleable, the person doing the testing is still stealing nail polish from the eventual buyer, who is going to pay full price for less product.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Sharnita on March 22, 2013, 06:14:16 PM
It's stealing.  An open bottle is not saleable.

Just out of curiosity, how would anyone even know it had been opened? There is no seal on most nail polish bottles I've ever seen.

I think being able to slip one past people is probably.poor justification for doing it, though. My guess is that if you told them which one had been opened and which one had not most customers would want the unopened bottle. When I buy it, I am paying for an unused bottle.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: pharmagal on March 22, 2013, 06:14:49 PM
I personally think it's rude, and akin to stealing unless you are actually buying the product.  Mind you I also think spraying deodorants in the store is rude too.  No-one really wants to buy an opened, used product, and the store shouldn't have to wear the cost of taking them out of stock. 

When I worked in pharmacy we used to put clear tape around the neck of the nail polish bottles to seal them.  The manufacturers/suppliers never sealed them, nor did they supply testers, that was a cost that had to be absorbed by our store.

If anyone wanted to try the polish colour we would take a bottle that had been previously opened (or if we didn't have one, then take it out of stock) and place a small strip of clear tape over the customers nail and paint the colour on the tape.  That way the customer could see what the colour looked like, but we didn't have to worry about any nail infections.

Occasionally we were able to source the nail wheels that were a opaque plastic, then we could paint up the nails on those in all the different colours and there was no need for anyone to open a fresh bottle of polish.

Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Magnet on March 22, 2013, 06:17:24 PM
It's stealing.  An open bottle is not saleable.

Just out of curiosity, how would anyone even know it had been opened? There is no seal on most nail polish bottles I've ever seen.

A lot of nailpolishes do have a plastic band around the lid, so you do know if its been opened.  Also, you can often tell when a product has been opened.  I am more concerned with the Tylanol scare from some years ago.  The product has been "tampered."  How should the next person know if someone has put something in the nailpolish or simply sampled the color?  If the store is aware the product has been opened, the store should toss it, and its basically theft, just like opening and sampling cookies before you buy.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: rose red on March 22, 2013, 06:36:14 PM
The first opening *feels* different on most brands.  Perhaps it's the band talked about in the above post?  I do test that *feel* before buying (I only do that if I'm sure I'm buying).
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Winterlight on March 22, 2013, 06:42:49 PM
Fine if it's a tester, not ok otherwise.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Erich L-ster on March 22, 2013, 07:09:04 PM
Absolutely rude unless it's a designated sample bottle. I have opened a bottle before (they're not sealed) to see if the color was sheer or thick. You can tell by the polish sticking to the brush. I never touched the polish or the brush to my nail though.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: YummyMummy66 on March 22, 2013, 07:27:48 PM
I used to do this all the time, until a Walmart employee said somethng to me. 

I used to just try a small bit on a fingernail to see if I liked the color, usually trying to decide between two to three different shades of one color, say pink for example.

The employee asked me to please not do that and explained that people could have a nail fungus that could be contagious, whether I did or not, the person before me who might have done the same thing, could have passed that fungus on to me.

Honestly, I just never had a clue about this.  I have not tried nail polish in the store since.

(But, it makes you wonder.  What if someone did have a fungus and did try it on before me?  Yet, I still have now bought that nail polish.)
So far, I have never had any problems.   I now usually only buy OPI because I have found that it is actually worth the price, applies well and stays on well.

Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: GLaDOS on March 22, 2013, 08:37:27 PM
I wouldn't want to buy an opened, tested polish, and I don't think anyone else would, either. Since I wouldn't buy it, I wouldn't do it. Also, depending on how whomever sampled it, it gets all gunked up around the neck of the bottle.

Nail polish seems to be a weird product, though. No one would dream of opening a lipstick or foundation or a even hairbrush to test.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: AngelBarchild on March 22, 2013, 09:08:12 PM
Nothing grows in nail polish, it's nitrocellulose dissolved in a solvent. The solvent is normally butyl acetate or ethyl acetate.  For lay people, it's a refined version of car paint. Haven't you seen a nail salon? They don't use a new bottle per person, or have to sterilize nail polish brushes.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: snowdragon on March 22, 2013, 09:11:44 PM
I don't think there is anything disgusting about it but opening bottles meant to be sold is effectively stealing and therefore wrong. If there is no tester you should not open one. You could ask a member of staff for help instead.

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Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: snowdragon on March 22, 2013, 09:13:58 PM
It's stealing.  An open bottle is not saleable.

Just out of curiosity, how would anyone even know it had been opened? There is no seal on most nail polish bottles I've ever seen.

even if the eventual purchaser doesn't know, you've taken something that does not belong to you.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Rohanna on March 22, 2013, 09:24:52 PM
It is highly unlikely that you'll get an infection off of nail polish, as it's composed almost entirely of solvents- in fact it's a modified version of car paint! Even mold spores have a tough time surviving in something that is mostly ethyl acetate. You are eons more likely to catch an infection from poorly cleaned spa equipment than a shared bottle of polish.

However, people have come to associate nail polish and fungus because wearing polish, particularly over artificial nails, can trap moisture between the nail and the polish/artificial nail and lead to or exacerbate an infection. In fact, many NICUs and other healthcare facilities now ban or discourage artificial nails as they have been linked to patient illness, and in one study, deaths.

That doesn't mean it's nice to gunk up or use up bottles of polish for sale, however.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: miranova on March 22, 2013, 09:29:29 PM
I do not understand how this could be considered ok.  It is stealing. 

Nail polish is not so expensive that it must be tried on before risking its purchase.  If there is not a sample bottle, you are stealing from either the store (if they end up not being able to sell it) or the person who ends up buying the bottle.  There are certain things that stores allow us to sample before purchase.  Unless they have offered a sample, you don't have the right to declare something a sample.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Rohanna on March 22, 2013, 09:41:50 PM
I will admit I have opened bottles briefly to check consistancy the way that another poster mentioned- as long as they aren't sealed in plastic. It tends to be the cheaper brands that are unsealed, and those are prone to being a bit thick and gunky- I see it as akin to popping up a shampoo cap to smell the scent.....not rude if it isn't sealed, but it's rude to pull the cardboard tab top off.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Sharnita on March 22, 2013, 09:47:01 PM
The problem with that, IMO, is that opening them the first time seems to hasyen consistancy issues. If I buy a bottle you opened before I might have issues, especially if I wait a bit to use it.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: spaceheatersusan on March 22, 2013, 09:54:56 PM
I have opened a bottle before (they're not sealed) to see if the color was sheer or thick. You can tell by the polish sticking to the brush. I never touched the polish or the brush to my nail though.

I do this too!  I open it to see the opacity of the colour, but I don't actually use it.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: spaceheatersusan on March 22, 2013, 09:59:37 PM
The problem with that, IMO, is that opening them the first time seems to hasyen consistancy issues. If I buy a bottle you opened before I might have issues, especially if I wait a bit to use it.

Just to let you know, nail polish never goes bad.  If it starts getting a little thick, add a few drops of nail polish thinner.  What happens is over time chemicals in the polish evaporate, causing it to thicken.  Just add a couple drops of thinner and you are replenishing those chemicals that evaporate, and your nailpolish is like new again!
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Rohanna on March 22, 2013, 10:10:18 PM
Check to make sure bottles you buy are tight then? As long as its tightened you shouldn't see any problems. t=The polish will eventually dry out and settle/separate, opened or not, so you may just be running into old polish that's thickening up with time or bottles where someone hasn't sealed it up tight. If it's consistantly a problem for you at particular stores, take one from the back of a row, since most stores "face" new product by rotatating the old stuff to the front.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Sharnita on March 22, 2013, 10:44:31 PM
The problem with that, IMO, is that opening them the first time seems to hasyen consistancy issues. If I buy a bottle you opened before I might have issues, especially if I wait a bit to use it.

Just to let you know, nail polish never goes bad.  If it starts getting a little thick, add a few drops of nail polish thinner.  What happens is over time chemicals in the polish evaporate, causing it to thicken.  Just add a couple drops of thinner and you are replenishing those chemicals that evaporate, and your nailpolish is like new again!

I shouldn't be forced to do this because your in store check of "opacity" caused evaporation to speed up, though.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: snowdragon on March 22, 2013, 11:13:09 PM
The problem with that, IMO, is that opening them the first time seems to hasyen consistancy issues. If I buy a bottle you opened before I might have issues, especially if I wait a bit to use it.

Just to let you know, nail polish never goes bad.  If it starts getting a little thick, add a few drops of nail polish thinner.  What happens is over time chemicals in the polish evaporate, causing it to thicken.  Just add a couple drops of thinner and you are replenishing those chemicals that evaporate, and your nailpolish is like new again!

I shouldn't be forced to do this because your in store check of "opacity" caused evaporation to speed up, though.

That is what  I was thinking. It still seems like the purchaser os getting ripped off for some reason.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: peaches on March 23, 2013, 12:28:28 AM
I wouldn't do it. You've used up part of the product (minute, I realize), and what if the top isn't screwed on securely after sampling? Then it could leak later on, after being purchased, and make a mess. 

In general, I think it's wrong and icky to try any product that someone else will buy not knowing it was used.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Seraphine1 on March 23, 2013, 04:00:38 AM
I'm a nail tech.

Bacterial and fungus will not grow in a bottle of polish - it is made up of solvents.  However, nail techs only work on hands that are squeaky clean and sanitized with alcohol-based prepping solutions, while that can't be said for people putting it on while standing in a drugstore. 

I don't like the idea of opening a bottle and trying it on, simply because I don't think most people are very careful about how they do it.  If they get polish on the threads of the lid, it will gum up the bottle and make it sticky.  This is what will cause damage - the little dried bits of polish make flecks in the otherwise smooth finish.

Nail polish doesn't go bad if it's cared for properly.  It's also not going to evaporate if the bottle is opened a few times!  I've got polishes that I've cared for for 4 or 5 years that are still fantastic (they are colours that aren't very popular, that's why I still have them after that many years).  But then I also clean the bottle threads with alcohol each time.  I also buy very good polishes - the cheap stuff isn't going to hold up as well.

The nail polish manufacturers could seal the bottles with a plastic sleeve, but by not doing so they are taking the risk of this happening, and risk having returns of sticky bottles.  All I would suggest is take a bottle from the back of the display if you are concerned.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: peaches on March 23, 2013, 05:55:49 AM
Very interesting information, Seraphine!  :)
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Lady Snowdon on March 23, 2013, 06:55:54 AM
I think it's stealing, and shouldn't be done.  I also don't think people should open the bottles beforehand either.  If a store keeps having to damage out the nail polish because it's been opened and the plastic is gone, or because someone complained that the threads were gunked up and it wasn't usable or whatever, then the store's costs will go up.  And most stores react to increasing costs of that nature by raising the price of stuff in the store to make up for that loss.  I'd rather not end up paying additional money for the things I want because other people wanted to play with stuff that wasn't theirs (it may be only a few cents most of the time, but one grocery store I worked at ended up having to increase the price of a certain product by some incredible amount, like .75 or 1.00, because of how often it was damaged/stolen while on the shelf). 
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: cicero on March 23, 2013, 07:32:46 AM
I think it's stealing. Doesn't matter if you can or not cause infefction to someone else, doesn't matter if this dfoies or doesn't somehow ruin the polish. The point is we, the run-of-the-mill consumers have a reasonable expectation of buying a never-been-opened bottle.

I do want to thank all the tech people for enlightening us. I am surprised that stores don't have those palettes that they used to have. That would make things easier

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I wouldn't want to buy an opened, tested polish, and I don't think anyone else would, either. Since I wouldn't buy it, I wouldn't do it. Also, depending on how whomever sampled it, it gets all gunked up around the neck of the bottle.

Nail polish seems to be a weird product, though. No one would dream of opening a lipstick or foundation or a even hairbrush to test.
yeah, well i,'ve seen brushes with hair on them . lipsticks usually are sealed
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Cami on March 23, 2013, 12:36:34 PM
OP here..

The reason I ask... My friend and I were out shopping and we stopped to get her prescriptions in the drugstore.. While waiting for the prescription to be filled, we started browsing the makeup aisle. I was looking at some manicure products and I looked up to see her open a bottle of nail polish and paint it on her nail. I was stunned. She is a very classy lady and I was surprised that she did this. She eventually did purchase the bottle she tried on from. I would never do this and I thought I would ask what e-hell members think of this.
She's not a classy lady! LOL 

Seriously, that's totally unacceptable. She's putting her germs in every bottle she uses. Disgusting.

How would she like it if someone with a fungal infection did that to a bottle she bought?
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: WillyNilly on March 23, 2013, 12:46:48 PM
I just have to say while I don't do this (seriously I haven't bought nail polish in over a decade) if I did buy polish I really honestly wouldn't give a hoot if someone had sampled it. I don't think its gross, nor do i think its going to be an amount I'd notice or care was gone. And when it comes down to it, I'd rather they sample the polish in store then take up time making everyone wait in line longer when they come to return a polish that wasn't true to the color it seemed it would be.
Title: Re: Trying on Nailpolish before buying - rude?
Post by: Softly Spoken on March 23, 2013, 09:03:28 PM
Just got back from my local drugstore where they were on the last day of their makeup sale. On the bottom of every shelf they had a notice that said something like "Due to Health Regulations, please do not open/use any of the cosmetics."

So...yeah. ::)

That is usually considered the trade off when shopping the drugstore vs. the department store cosmetics - lower price but you can't sample so it's a bit of a crapshoot unless you have either tried stuff before or know what colors look good on you (and have done your homework on products and brands). You should also know your drugstores return policy. I bought about 10 things - one is already going back for sure because it wasn't true to color (i.e. looked good in the bottle but didn't look the same on me! :P)

Unless the store has an obvious sample policy/obviously marked sample container - don't try before you buy. Resign yourself to either returning it, or sucking it up and absorbing the cost of a bad choice. Or, you know, don't buy the darn thing if you aren't sure you'll like it! ::) Obviously you have plenty of choices that don't include mangling the merchandise.