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Title: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Green Bean on March 31, 2013, 05:15:30 PM
DH and I were talking about different ethnic foods, the popularity of Italian specifically. He pondered whether or not Mexican food (tacos, burritos, enchiladas, etc) are popular globally or just N.A.  I thought that would be a good question for the e-hell folks.  So, what say you?
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Awestruck Shmuck on March 31, 2013, 05:56:42 PM
Mexican food is gaining popularity in Australia - but there's a lot of fuss from a tiny % of people that question how authentic it is. I think most mexican places here serve 'tex-mex' - but I have been to one restaurant that is said to be very authentic, and it was amazing!!
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: hyzenthlay on March 31, 2013, 06:08:08 PM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

Some individual aspects are becoming more wide spread. Tortillas are used as the basis for 'wraps' in many places. But actual 'Mexican' is pretty heavy on corn and squash and beans, and that's a far cry from the Mexican American mix which heavier on beef, cheese, and lettuce and tomato for garnish.

Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Nibsey on March 31, 2013, 06:24:44 PM
It's pretty popular in Dublin. Mexican tapas restaurants and Burrito stalls are where all the hipsters are hanging out.  ::) Before that was the bubble tea places and before that was the milkshake places. I don't like chili or beans so sufficient to say I preferred the milkshake craze. Mmmh Cadburys Cream egg milkshake.  ;D
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Iris on March 31, 2013, 06:36:15 PM
Mexican food is gaining popularity in Australia - but there's a lot of fuss from a tiny % of people that question how authentic it is. I think most mexican places here serve 'tex-mex' - but I have been to one restaurant that is said to be very authentic, and it was amazing!!

I have been to several Mexican restaurants (in Australia), all of which claim to sell really, truly authentic Mexican food. Pity that there's so much difference between them  ::). Then again food snobs have patiently explained to me that just about every ethnic food I have ever eaten is wrong in some way, or if it is right it is only right for a small area of the country in question. Now I just go for whatever I personally find yummy.

My kids love Mexican food and regularly beg for it for dinner, so I would say in my house at least it's pretty popular.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: BigBadBetty on March 31, 2013, 07:00:12 PM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

I don't find that to be true. I was in a small town Wisconsin grocery yesterday. Even though though there produce section is pretty sad, they had fresh jalapenos, serranos, poblanos, plaintains, cilantro, tomatillos, masa and a variety of tortillas. This small town also has a Mexican grocery store with a small attached restaurant. The Mexican market has enough ingredients to make mole and pipian from scratch.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: hyzenthlay on March 31, 2013, 07:37:20 PM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

I don't find that to be true. I was in a small town Wisconsin grocery yesterday. Even though though there produce section is pretty sad, they had fresh jalapenos, serranos, poblanos, plaintains, cilantro, tomatillos, masa and a variety of tortillas. This small town also has a Mexican grocery store with a small attached restaurant. The Mexican market has enough ingredients to make mole and pipian from scratch.

Well I meant more in terms of prepared food and restaurants.

I can buy every thing I need to make about any middle eastern dish you care to name, but there's no more then a couple of restaurants that serve middle eastern food of any kind here.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: merryns on March 31, 2013, 07:50:19 PM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

Some individual aspects are becoming more wide spread. Tortillas are used as the basis for 'wraps' in many places. But actual 'Mexican' is pretty heavy on corn and squash and beans, and that's a far cry from the Mexican American mix which heavier on beef, cheese, and lettuce and tomato for garnish.

Chain Mexican restaurants that use a lot of beef are common in Australia. Chillies are very commonly available for home cooking and in restaurants. They are a common ingredient in Indian and SE Asian cuisines.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: something.new.every.day on March 31, 2013, 09:19:27 PM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

Some individual aspects are becoming more wide spread. Tortillas are used as the basis for 'wraps' in many places. But actual 'Mexican' is pretty heavy on corn and squash and beans, and that's a far cry from the Mexican American mix which heavier on beef, cheese, and lettuce and tomato for garnish.

I'm a Coloradan and we use green chiles NOT green peppers.  Also, we have a ton of authentic Mexican food up here, which should be no surprise as we have many immigrants living here. 
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: hyzenthlay on March 31, 2013, 09:41:25 PM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

Some individual aspects are becoming more wide spread. Tortillas are used as the basis for 'wraps' in many places. But actual 'Mexican' is pretty heavy on corn and squash and beans, and that's a far cry from the Mexican American mix which heavier on beef, cheese, and lettuce and tomato for garnish.

I'm a Coloradan and we use green chiles NOT green peppers.  Also, we have a ton of authentic Mexican food up here, which should be no surprise as we have many immigrants living here.

Well tell that to the guy that I purchased a breakfast burrito from in Denver. It's the weirdest thing to expect green chili and get green bell pepper.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Sharnita on March 31, 2013, 10:05:59 PM
About 15 years ago we hosted a young man who was visiting from Germany.  We asked if he had ever had Mexican food and he answered that he had - Taco Bell.  We took him someplace a bit more authentic.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: PastryGoddess on March 31, 2013, 11:10:27 PM
About 15 years ago we hosted a young man who was visiting from Germany.  We asked if he had ever had Mexican food and he answered that he had - Taco Bell.  We took him someplace a bit more authentic.

Understatement of the week? month? year? decade? century?
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Promise on March 31, 2013, 11:11:47 PM
I went to a Mexican restaurant in Brasil.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Shotochick on April 01, 2013, 05:25:54 AM
I love Mexican food - used to go to a fabulous tacquera in Sydney, and even checked out a new place when we were home in Feb.

In London, there is not a lot of great Mexican - the exception being the Wahaca chain. I tend to go there when I want to get my margaritas on. Big time.

Otherwise - I go DIY now. I even have a stash of masa harina to make my own tortillas (and although I have a tortilla press, i prefer to just bash them out, great stress relief!)

Oh and the Cool Chili Company have a fabulous stand at Borough market, or I order online from them. Currently have about 8 different types of canned and dried chilies in the cupboard!
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: iridaceae on April 01, 2013, 06:11:33 AM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P


But the Sonoran cuisine is more savory than spicy; there are a few dishes which are spicy but visitors who come here and go to Mexican restaurants serving Sonoran cuisine are usually surprised that it is not loaded with chiles.

Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: saki on April 01, 2013, 07:08:56 AM
In the UK, not really - the "default" ethnic cuisines are Indian, Italian, Chinese (pretty much in that order).  There's also a fair amount of French, Spanish, Turkish/Middle Eastern food, Thai, Korean.  In London, you can get any cuisine though and I have noticed Mexican restaurants popping up more so recently - there are now three or four decent Mexican restaurants in central London (my favourite is Lupita) but it's still some way down the list of cuisines regularly eaten in the UK.

I suspect that it will continue to increase in popularity for a while but I don't think it'll ever come close to knocking Indian food out of its pole position in British culture.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Snowy Owl on April 01, 2013, 07:51:44 AM
In the UK, not really - the "default" ethnic cuisines are Indian, Italian, Chinese (pretty much in that order).  There's also a fair amount of French, Spanish, Turkish/Middle Eastern food, Thai, Korean.  In London, you can get any cuisine though and I have noticed Mexican restaurants popping up more so recently - there are now three or four decent Mexican restaurants in central London (my favourite is Lupita) but it's still some way down the list of cuisines regularly eaten in the UK.

I suspect that it will continue to increase in popularity for a while but I don't think it'll ever come close to knocking Indian food out of its pole position in British culture.

I'd agree.  I think apart from the rush for the latest trend, restaurants are dictated by population.   We're a long way from Mexico so there isn't a large immigrant community to desire or press for the restaurants or to demand local quality food.  Given the large, settled Indian and Chinese communities, I can't see Mexican food challenging the dominance of either in the UK. 

On the Mexican front, there's a chain called Benito's Hat around London that does quite nice burritos.  I've no idea how authentic they are but I quite like the food. 
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Judah on April 01, 2013, 09:59:06 AM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

Some individual aspects are becoming more wide spread. Tortillas are used as the basis for 'wraps' in many places. But actual 'Mexican' is pretty heavy on corn and squash and beans, and that's a far cry from the Mexican American mix which heavier on beef, cheese, and lettuce and tomato for garnish.

"Mexican" food is not one style of food. Depending on where in Mexico you are the food might be heavy on meat, or more seafood, or more or less spice. In some regions, sauces are the norm and in others it's not. You really can't say that Mexican food is any one style.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Lynnv on April 01, 2013, 11:44:12 AM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

Some individual aspects are becoming more wide spread. Tortillas are used as the basis for 'wraps' in many places. But actual 'Mexican' is pretty heavy on corn and squash and beans, and that's a far cry from the Mexican American mix which heavier on beef, cheese, and lettuce and tomato for garnish.

I'm a Coloradan and we use green chiles NOT green peppers.  Also, we have a ton of authentic Mexican food up here, which should be no surprise as we have many immigrants living here.

Green peppers in place of green chiles.  Ewwwww.   Of course I don't like green bell peppers to start with.  I am also from Colorado (born and raised) and have not run into that.   It may happen in isolated places-and if you ran into it in more than one place you had terribly bad luck.  But it is certainly not something that is common or accepted in general.

Back to the OP.  I see a lot of Tex Mex in my travels, and not as much authentic Mexican food.  I actually prefer Tex Mex (most of the time anyway), so that works out fine for me.  But I do see more and more places that at least purport to have authentic Mexican cuisine. 

Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: lowspark on April 01, 2013, 12:26:15 PM
I live in Houston and TexMex is, of course, ubiquitous here in Texas. Of course, it's not really Mexican as in, authentic Mexican, but it's authentic TexMex. And as someone said about Mexican food being several different styles of food, well, in fact, so is TexMex. We have several "favorite" TexMex places which all serve somewhat different styles of food, all of which fall into the category of TexMex.

My son lived in Manhattan for a few years and according to him there's no good TexMex there. Apparently there were multiple spots which attempted it, but they didn't quite get there.

As far as authentic Mexican food, yeah, you can get that here too. And it's pretty good. But not as good as the TexMex.

If you need a recommendation for good TexMex in Houston, I've got a list! As a side note, the #1 sign that a restaurant is not athentic TexMex: No free chips & salsa.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: menley on April 02, 2013, 11:28:37 AM
I live in Eastern Europe and there are several Mexican food places in my city. I was very pleasantly surprised, as I'm originally from Texas and thought that I would miss Mexican food the most! It's not quite the same as in Texas - it's closer to actual Mexican food than to Tex-Mex, which I prefer - but it's definitely good enough to get me past my cravings :)
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Twik on April 02, 2013, 01:24:12 PM
Tex-Mex (beyond the Taco Bell, of course) is not "inauthentic," it's a regional cuisine on its own.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: lowspark on April 02, 2013, 03:20:21 PM
Sure, I agree. It's just that when you say, "Let's eat Mexican" around here, what you really mean is, "Let's eat TexMex." And if someone is not from the area or doesn't realize that "Mexican" in Texas implies TexMex, not authentic Mexican cuisine, well, they aren't going to get what they may be expecting.

So... not saying there's anything inauthentic about TexMex, just that TexMex does not equal authentic Mexican.

If you want to eat authentic Mexican food as opposed to the more readily available TexMex, you might say something closer to "Let's eat Mexican food, I mean, real Mexican" because the TexMex is implied and "real" Mexican would need to be specified if that's what you mean.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Lynnv on April 02, 2013, 04:04:07 PM
Sure, I agree. It's just that when you say, "Let's eat Mexican" around here, what you really mean is, "Let's eat TexMex." And if someone is not from the area or doesn't realize that "Mexican" in Texas implies TexMex, not authentic Mexican cuisine, well, they aren't going to get what they may be expecting.

So... not saying there's anything inauthentic about TexMex, just that TexMex does not equal authentic Mexican.

If you want to eat authentic Mexican food as opposed to the more readily available TexMex, you might say something closer to "Let's eat Mexican food, I mean, real Mexican" because the TexMex is implied and "real" Mexican would need to be specified if that's what you mean.

Yep-same thing here.  And in most places I travel to as well.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Ereine on April 05, 2013, 02:28:12 AM
I've read that actual Mexican food is trendy in Helsinki at the moment but mostly it means (probably very unauthentic) TexMex here in Finland. There's one chain restaurant that's in every larger town (called Amarillo), I quite enjoy it but I'm not at all refined about food, some people I know find it horrible. Most larger town will have a few independent TexMex restaurants too but they're pretty far behind the most common ethnic restaurants, kebab-pizzerias and Chinese restaurants.

Growing chili peppers has become very fashionable here in recent years, people seem to like it as hot possible though I don't know what sort of cooking they do with them.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Last_Dance on April 09, 2013, 05:00:22 AM
There are at least 4 Mexican restaurants in my not-very-turistic Northern Italian city. Can't vouch for authenticity, though  ;D
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Katana_Geldar on April 09, 2013, 06:23:56 AM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

Please say you are joking, please.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: cicero on April 09, 2013, 07:26:45 AM
it's actually interesting in israel because one would think that tex-mex is right up our alley (spicy, lots of vegetables, beans, etc) but for some reason it hasn't really taken that well. I think there are one or two tex-mex restaurants in jerusalem, maybe a few more in tel aviv.

tex-mex items that have been 'borrowed' into local cuisine, do appear on most restaurant menues and in supermarkets - so you will have tortillas smeared with cream cheese and dotted with smoked salmon...  ::) a very popular part food a few years ago, or guacamole will often appear as one of the mezze dishes alongside hummus, tahini, spicy red sauce, and eggplants.

we can buy the tortillas (corn and flour) in almost any supermarket, sauces, etc and in specialty stores you can find the whole ... urhm... enchillada ( ;D ) like canned diced chilis, refried beans, salsa, etc.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Venus193 on April 09, 2013, 08:12:49 AM
Happy to report that now you do get free chips and salsa in NYC's Mexican restaurants.  That may be in the lower-end ones, though, vs. the higher-end ones in Manhattan.

My neighborhood used to have almost nothing in the way of Mexican food but now we have a small place  every other block.  The place across the street from my favorite Irish pub serves fabulous shrimp ceviche.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Ereine on April 09, 2013, 01:34:57 PM
Apparently the trend for "100 % authentic" Mexican food has spread to my town, there's a new restaurant opening here. I think that I'm going to have to check it out to see how different it is.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Sophia on April 09, 2013, 03:59:34 PM
Traveling outside the U.S. I've often seen "Mexican" restaurants.  Occasionally, feeling homesick, I've eaten in a few.  I'd put them all on about the level of Del Taco, i.e. less authentic than Taco Bell or Bueno. 
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: ilrag on April 10, 2013, 09:07:07 PM
Mexican food is gaining popularity in Australia - but there's a lot of fuss from a tiny % of people that question how authentic it is. I think most mexican places here serve 'tex-mex' - but I have been to one restaurant that is said to be very authentic, and it was amazing!!

I was all over New South Wales last spring and as some one who grew 35 miles from the Mexican border (and has also traveled extensively through baja, and both coasts of the mainland in mexico) I have to say there's no authentic Mexican food in Australia.

I felt the same way when I was in college in Maine. :)
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Danika on April 11, 2013, 03:05:29 AM
Mexican food is gaining popularity in Australia - but there's a lot of fuss from a tiny % of people that question how authentic it is. I think most mexican places here serve 'tex-mex' - but I have been to one restaurant that is said to be very authentic, and it was amazing!!

I was all over New South Wales last spring and as some one who grew 35 miles from the Mexican border (and has also traveled extensively through baja, and both coasts of the mainland in mexico) I have to say there's no authentic Mexican food in Australia.

I felt the same way when I was in college in Maine. :)

I grew up in an area with many Mexican restaurants. And then I went to college in Massachusetts. There were very few Mexican restaurants in Cambridge/Boston and the most famous one at the time had rodents and roaches! Highlight for TMI: You could see them behind the bar, or crawling along the rafters on the ceiling. The "best" (only tolerable) Mexican food that I had in Boston was from Taco Bell!
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: that_one_girl on April 11, 2013, 04:26:25 PM
The best Mexican restaurant I ever ate at was in Japan.

I'd not say that it is "popular" ... but that they really like to have interesting taste experiences.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: amandaelizabeth on April 11, 2013, 08:06:39 PM
They seem very popular here.  I have never got past our local one, which imports its supplies from Mexico, it is just the best.

Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: mmswm on April 11, 2013, 08:59:37 PM
There are two authentic Mexican restaurants across the street from each other near me.  They are both owned by (now) elderly Mexican women and run by their children and grandchildren.   The two women are from different states (though I can't remember which ones), and the food they serve is very, very different from each other. Both restaurants' menus are comprised of old family recipes, and, according to the local Mexican community, are very authentic.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Katana_Geldar on April 11, 2013, 09:30:20 PM
What constitutes 'authentic Mexican food' anyway? I'm getting the impression that getting 'authentic' Mexican food is similar to getting 'authentic' Chinese food.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: hyzenthlay on April 11, 2013, 09:56:41 PM
What constitutes 'authentic Mexican food' anyway? I'm getting the impression that getting 'authentic' Mexican food is similar to getting 'authentic' Chinese food.

Authentic meaning actually served in Mexico, as opposed to vaguely composed of similar ingredients.

And honestly, I don't think most cuisines really do travel very far from their homeland without being shifted to match existing tastes. The ingredients don't always travel well, and become too expensive in the process. I live in New Mexico, and I don't think I eat more then one or two dishes a year that would qualify as Mexican rather then New Mexican (which is retains some differences from Tex-Mex.)

Anything that hits the US tends to loose any organ meats, as well as having the more outre veggies replaced with things available in the states.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Sophia on April 11, 2013, 10:05:04 PM
What constitutes 'authentic Mexican food' anyway? I'm getting the impression that getting 'authentic' Mexican food is similar to getting 'authentic' Chinese food.

When people say they have an authentic Mexican restaurant near their house, I take it with a huge scoop of salt.  But, when I read the post before yours I believed it. 
 
"There are two authentic Mexican restaurants across the street from each other near me.  They are both owned by (now) elderly Mexican women and run by their children and grandchildren.   The two women are from different states (though I can't remember which ones), and the food they serve is very, very different from each other. Both restaurants' menus are comprised of old family recipes, and, according to the local Mexican community, are very authentic."
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Bluenomi on April 11, 2013, 10:08:25 PM
You can get 'Mexican' in Australia but I suspect it's closer to Tex Mex. We have a new chain here locally that seems to do things closer to proper Mexican which is quite yummy.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Katana_Geldar on April 11, 2013, 10:16:47 PM
DH loves Mexican food and I don't mind it either, just not as into hot chillies as he is. There's a fantastic Mexican place not far from us. A bit rough, but clean and I usually see it lacked in the evenings.

The food is great, PM if you want to know where it is. Is on the North Shore of Sydney.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Danika on April 11, 2013, 11:43:31 PM
And I'm sure there are various types of Mexican food within Mexico. It's a fairly large country. My DH's parents lived in Mexico City for a few years. He said the food there tasted different from the food in Acapulco when his family went there. He said both places had food that was blander than he expected. He thought it would be very spicy, because a lot of the Mexican food where we live (Colorado) is spicy.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Katana_Geldar on April 12, 2013, 12:14:19 AM
And I'm sure there are various types of Mexican food within Mexico. It's a fairly large country. My DH's parents lived in Mexico City for a few years. He said the food there tasted different from the food in Acapulco when his family went there. He said both places had food that was blander than he expected. He thought it would be very spicy, because a lot of the Mexican food where we live (Colorado) is spicy.

Just as I thought, it's like Chinese. I do feel rather reassured now about Australia's supposed lack of authenticity.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: lowspark on April 12, 2013, 07:24:05 AM
TexMex involves a lot of spice and chili peppers. Real Mexican food in Mexico does not. That's why your husband found it to be bland.

There are places in Houston where you can get authentic Mexican food. Most people who love TexMex (including me) don't much care for authentic Mexican because it does use similar ingredients but without the spice which, for my money, is what makes TexMex so good.

I would guess that there are very few places in the world outside of Mexico which serve authentic Mexican cuisine, and many which serve some localized version of it. Which is why there is TexMex, CalMex, NewMexico-Mex, and who knows how many other variations.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Sharnita on April 12, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
And I'm sure there are various types of Mexican food within Mexico. It's a fairly large country. My DH's parents lived in Mexico City for a few years. He said the food there tasted different from the food in Acapulco when his family went there. He said both places had food that was blander than he expected. He thought it would be very spicy, because a lot of the Mexican food where we live (Colorado) is spicy.

Just as I thought, it's like Chinese. I do feel rather reassured now about Australia's supposed lack of authenticity.

Well, there is also "Mexican" food that is just blatantly altered from anything served anywhere in Mexico.  I mean you might go to a restaurant and eat something that is enjoyed in one part of Mexico but not in others and that is authentic.  But then there are just some places where there is no way it would be found like that anywhere in the country.  I have no idea how the restaurants in Australia fall into that scale (probably different places rate differently).
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Thipu1 on April 12, 2013, 08:57:26 AM
Back in the 1970s and 1980s Mexican food in NYC was awful but I didn't know it until I met Mr. Thipu.  His sister had lived in San Diego for a number of years so he was exposed to much better Northern Mexican cooking.  He was the one who informed me that chili was referred to as the Spanish equivalent of 'Northern Stew'.

When we visited Cozumel, the food was totally different and very delicious.  The cuisine used lots of limes, fish and roast meats. 

Dang it, now I'm getting in the mood for sopa de Limas and Pok Chuk.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: mmswm on April 12, 2013, 09:18:14 AM

I would guess that there are very few places in the world outside of Mexico which serve authentic Mexican cuisine, and many which serve some localized version of it. Which is why there is TexMex, CalMex, NewMexico-Mex, and who knows how many other variations.

I would disagree with that statement. There are huge immigrant communities in many parts of the US and probably other countries as well.  Ethnic supermarkets are available for those people acquire the ingredients necessary for authentic dishes.  As I posted somewhere upthread, there are several restaurants in my town owned by actual Mexican people, who's menus are full of old family recipes.  I'm quite certain that other cities that have large immigrant communities have similar restaurants.
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: #borecore on April 12, 2013, 10:07:10 AM
I think my biggest fear about moving to the northeast is a dearth of good tortillas, salsas, beans and the like. Probably unfounded, but our diet is something like 50% Tex-Mex! I would have to relearn cooking if I didn't have these things around.

That said, I have a lot of love for the less common dishes from across the border, I just don't make them much, particularly because I'm a vegetarian. We still love squash in our tacos, soft cheeses, and mock chorizo and charros, but goat, seafood and lard in every baked good just don't cut it in our home.

My favorite thing at the Mexican seaside resort I visited was the breakfasts -- tucked away from the hot buffet and American cereals was a table of local fruit, fresh soft cheese and local pastry, along with fresh juices and horchata. I could do breakfast like that every day!
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Venus193 on April 12, 2013, 10:52:59 AM
The supermarkets in my area have jicama, chayote, nopales, tomatillos, and various other Mexican items.   Also plenty of condiments and canned products from Mexico including McCormick Mayonnaise with Lime.  Lots of tortillas and tostadas, tambien...
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: that_one_girl on April 12, 2013, 10:55:03 AM
I think my biggest fear about moving to the northeast is a dearth of good tortillas, salsas, beans and the like. Probably unfounded, but our diet is something like 50% Tex-Mex! I would have to relearn cooking if I didn't have these things around.

That said, I have a lot of love for the less common dishes from across the border, I just don't make them much, particularly because I'm a vegetarian. We still love squash in our tacos, soft cheeses, and mock chorizo and charros, but goat, seafood and lard in every baked good just don't cut it in our home.

My favorite thing at the Mexican seaside resort I visited was the breakfasts -- tucked away from the hot buffet and American cereals was a table of local fruit, fresh soft cheese and local pastry, along with fresh juices and horchata. I could do breakfast like that every day!

I live on the East coast and it's hard to find good ingredients ... they do have some passable ones in the International aisle though
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Post by: #borecore on April 12, 2013, 11:02:22 AM
The supermarkets in my area have jicama, chayote, nopales, tomatillos, and various other Mexican items.   Also plenty of condiments and canned products from Mexico including McCormick Mayonnaise with Lime.  Lots of tortillas and tostadas, tambien...

Yeah, if I were moving to NYC, I wouldn't even think to be concerned!
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Post by: PastryGoddess on April 12, 2013, 11:23:38 AM
I think my biggest fear about moving to the northeast is a dearth of good tortillas, salsas, beans and the like. Probably unfounded, but our diet is something like 50% Tex-Mex! I would have to relearn cooking if I didn't have these things around.

That said, I have a lot of love for the less common dishes from across the border, I just don't make them much, particularly because I'm a vegetarian. We still love squash in our tacos, soft cheeses, and mock chorizo and charros, but goat, seafood and lard in every baked good just don't cut it in our home.

My favorite thing at the Mexican seaside resort I visited was the breakfasts -- tucked away from the hot buffet and American cereals was a table of local fruit, fresh soft cheese and local pastry, along with fresh juices and horchata. I could do breakfast like that every day!

I live on the East coast and it's hard to find good ingredients ... they do have some passable ones in the International aisle though
It depends on where you live

I'm in Maryland and I don't have any issue with finding ingredients.  If I can't find them at the regular grocery store, there are several international stores within a 10-20 min drive I can go to.
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Post by: Hmmmmm on April 12, 2013, 11:42:11 AM
What constitutes 'authentic Mexican food' anyway? I'm getting the impression that getting 'authentic' Mexican food is similar to getting 'authentic' Chinese food.

In Mexico, the food is very regionalized just as it is in other large countries. You'll get a very different experience on the Yucatan coast than you will in Mexico City.

TexMex is a separate cuisine from "Mexican".  In Houston, we'll refer to "Interior Mexican" food to differentiate from the TexMex, CalMex, NewMex cuisine more common in the states, or even from what we refer to as "border Mexican" which is restaurants in Mexico but may lean more toward TexMex/CalMex. 

To give an idea of the differences, this is two Houston restaurants that specializes in "Interior Mexican".
http://hugosrestaurant.net/dinner.html (http://hugosrestaurant.net/dinner.html)
http://www.cuchararestaurant.com/imgs/menuCuchara.pdf (http://www.cuchararestaurant.com/imgs/menuCuchara.pdf)
This is a menu from a typical TexMex restaurant in Houston.
http://pappaspizza.net/images/dyn/menus/menu_196.pdf (http://pappaspizza.net/images/dyn/menus/menu_196.pdf)

As someone else mentioned, "Real Mexican" food is usually not spicey. That's not to say its never spicy (I've eaten some salsa in Mexico that burned me up) but it's only occasionally spicy. And it's not just heat, it's a milder flavor overall.   

Tex/NewMex are most likely to be spicey and bolder flavors if eaten in Texas/New Mexico. But even in bordering states, restaurants that claim to be TexMex or NewMex usually aren't what a Texan or New Mexican would expect for heat and spice.

And if you're really interested in TexMex, there is a great book I can recommend on the regional styles you'll find in various Texas locations.
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Post by: Sophia on April 12, 2013, 12:03:51 PM
I think my biggest fear about moving to the northeast is a dearth of good tortillas, salsas, beans and the like. Probably unfounded, but our diet is something like 50% Tex-Mex! I would have to relearn cooking if I didn't have these things around.

That said, I have a lot of love for the less common dishes from across the border, I just don't make them much, particularly because I'm a vegetarian. We still love squash in our tacos, soft cheeses, and mock chorizo and charros, but goat, seafood and lard in every baked good just don't cut it in our home.

My favorite thing at the Mexican seaside resort I visited was the breakfasts -- tucked away from the hot buffet and American cereals was a table of local fruit, fresh soft cheese and local pastry, along with fresh juices and horchata. I could do breakfast like that every day!

I like tortillas so much, I learned to make them (and I live in Texas).  I have this nifty gadget that is basically two hot nonstick plates on a hinge.  So you squish and cook at the same time.  I would setup a cheap electric griddle to the right of it so I could be cooking two tortillas at once.  Trouble is, I'd put cheese on it during the final bit of cooking, and I'd end up eating way too many of my tortillas. 
I liked that I could tweak the recipe for my preferred about of loft in my flour tortillas.  Corn tortillas seemed no better than the store ones. 

I have heard that the ones needing to be cooked in the fridge section are used by Hispanic women at home.  I've seen them available in the middle of Minnesota.  Probably because they keep for a long time.  Before that I remember running around the store thinking "What is wrong with this place?  Where are the tortillas?  They aren't in any of the normal places." 

Part of the lack of spices in central Mexico might be the "serving to gringos" factor.  I remember as a kid going to Monterrey.  We ate at someplace where the manager helped us order.  Dad was very disappointed in his food because it was bland.  I thought it was delicious.  Next day, I confidently and eagerly order what Dad had the day before, and this time we didn't need the manager.  Oh My!  Completely different spice level.  I hated it, and Dad said he'd wished he'd gotten it that way.  Unfortunately Dad is "Eat what you order" so neither time would he switch with me.  Even though we'd have both been happier. 
Title: Re: Is Mexican food popular outside North America?
Post by: Mal on April 17, 2013, 07:23:27 AM
About 15 years ago we hosted a young man who was visiting from Germany.  We asked if he had ever had Mexican food and he answered that he had - Taco Bell.  We took him someplace a bit more authentic.

I'm from Germany and I've yet to see a single Taco Bell restaurant o_O maybe there's a regional difference. The few chains around where I live are mostly bars where you can order a few TexMex basics to accompany your drink. But I know at least one probably quite authentic Mexican restaurant (as in run by actual Mexicans) in Munich with a delicious multitude of tastes and smells both spicy and mild, a far cry from any "Mexican" takeout I've ever had - I can't wait to go there again! Now you made me hungry...
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Post by: ladyknight1 on April 19, 2013, 09:04:08 PM
We can find beautiful chiles fresh and dried here in central Florida. My husband made green chili just two weeks ago.  :D
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Post by: iridaceae on April 23, 2013, 05:40:11 AM
TexMex involves a lot of spice and chili peppers. Real Mexican food in Mexico does not. That's why your husband found it to be bland.

There are places in Houston where you can get authentic Mexican food. Most people who love TexMex (including me) don't much care for authentic Mexican because it does use similar ingredients but without the spice which, for my money, is what makes TexMex so good.

I would guess that there are very few places in the world outside of Mexico which serve authentic Mexican cuisine, and many which serve some localized version of it. Which is why there is TexMex, CalMex, NewMexico-Mex, and who knows how many other variations.
Forgetting Arizona,  are we? Though truthfully Arizona embraces the Sonoran cuisine,  especially Tucson and further south which only makes sense as this is still the Sonoran Desert.
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Post by: lowspark on April 23, 2013, 07:21:59 AM
TexMex involves a lot of spice and chili peppers. Real Mexican food in Mexico does not. That's why your husband found it to be bland.

There are places in Houston where you can get authentic Mexican food. Most people who love TexMex (including me) don't much care for authentic Mexican because it does use similar ingredients but without the spice which, for my money, is what makes TexMex so good.

I would guess that there are very few places in the world outside of Mexico which serve authentic Mexican cuisine, and many which serve some localized version of it. Which is why there is TexMex, CalMex, NewMexico-Mex, and who knows how many other variations.
Forgetting Arizona,  are we? Though truthfully Arizona embraces the Sonoran cuisine,  especially Tucson and further south which only makes sense as this is still the Sonoran Desert.

Maybe I'm reading into your comment, but it seeems a bit snarky. As I said, there are other variations. Sorry I didn't mention every single possible variation on Mexican food.  ::)
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Post by: Drunken Housewife on September 08, 2013, 06:15:48 PM
Here's a tip for discerning if something is really authentic Mexican:  does it have menudo on the menu?  Or other organ meat?  (Menudo is a tripe soup). 

And another note about authenticity:  burritos are not authentic.  They are actually from San Francisco and were supposedly invented during our gold rush as a good hand food. 

I love the California version of Mexican food, which tends to have a lot less lard.  I have been to Mexico a couple of times.  I note that in the Yucatan, food can be extremely spicy, so hotness is not limited to "Tex-Mex".  When my ex and I were in Merida, we were congratulated by a waiter for being the first gringos who could eat the house salsa!
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Post by: Hmmmmm on September 08, 2013, 07:41:30 PM
I'd be careful grading restaurants on whether they have menudo on the menu. It's very much of. Comfort food item. Also, in Mexico listing menudo is not common. More often they will identify the type of tripe used. For example Sopa pancita is "menudo" made with a tender tripe. Also when I spent time in Mexico City, few higher end restaurants offered it.
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Post by: jedikaiti on September 09, 2013, 11:17:03 AM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

I don't find that to be true. I was in a small town Wisconsin grocery yesterday. Even though though there produce section is pretty sad, they had fresh jalapenos, serranos, poblanos, plaintains, cilantro, tomatillos, masa and a variety of tortillas. This small town also has a Mexican grocery store with a small attached restaurant. The Mexican market has enough ingredients to make mole and pipian from scratch.

Well I meant more in terms of prepared food and restaurants.

I can buy every thing I need to make about any middle eastern dish you care to name, but there's no more then a couple of restaurants that serve middle eastern food of any kind here.

I'm in Colorado and around here, the green chili usually involves chili peppers. Sometimes quite a lot of them.
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Post by: Pen^2 on September 09, 2013, 12:24:46 PM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

I would like to dispel this notion. Maybe it is true within the USA, but beyond that it certainly isn't. Here in Singapore, chili pepper is an ingredient found in just about every place you can think of. I mean that quite literally--I am not exaggerating. Even McDonald's have a few chili burgers and things which are specific to this area. I spent the few months before we moved here purposefully building up my chili tolerance because otherwise I didn't want to be restricted and unable to eat about half the food (literally). When I first visited years earlier, we had crab (yum yum yum) at a big restaurant and I asked for it without the usual half-cup of ground chili. The server was very polite and explained that he'd have to check with the chef because they'd never had anyone who wanted food without chili before. In the surrounding countries (Malaysia etc.) chili is also extremely common. Hawker centres (kind of like a collection of open-air cafes and diners) consistently have containers of chili powder or chili flakes to add to your meals in case the amount of chili that it was cooked with isn't enough. Seriously, it's more ubiquitous than salt shakers or sauce.

Mexican food isn't common here at all, but absolutely not due to any lack of chili.

In Australia, where I grew up, there are a few Taco Bell-type places here and there. More authentic Mexican restaurants and eateries do exist, but not very commonly.
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Post by: PastryGoddess on September 09, 2013, 04:50:38 PM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

I would like to dispel this notion. Maybe it is true within the USA, but beyond that it certainly isn't. Here in Singapore, chili pepper is an ingredient found in just about every place you can think of. I mean that quite literally--I am not exaggerating. Even McDonald's have a few chili burgers and things which are specific to this area. I spent the few months before we moved here purposefully building up my chili tolerance because otherwise I didn't want to be restricted and unable to eat about half the food (literally). When I first visited years earlier, we had crab (yum yum yum) at a big restaurant and I asked for it without the usual half-cup of ground chili. The server was very polite and explained that he'd have to check with the chef because they'd never had anyone who wanted food without chili before. In the surrounding countries (Malaysia etc.) chili is also extremely common. Hawker centres (kind of like a collection of open-air cafes and diners) consistently have containers of chili powder or chili flakes to add to your meals in case the amount of chili that it was cooked with isn't enough. Seriously, it's more ubiquitous than salt shakers or sauce.

Mexican food isn't common here at all, but absolutely not due to any lack of chili.

In Australia, where I grew up, there are a few Taco Bell-type places here and there. More authentic Mexican restaurants and eateries do exist, but not very commonly.

Thank you for this.  Chili peppers are common all over the world and show up in many cuisines.
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Post by: ladyknight1 on September 11, 2013, 08:08:31 AM
I am married to a chile-head and we can buy at least 10 varieties of dried chile at our corner market. If we need more, we have ethnic grocery stores and a spice shop within a 30 minute drive, so we can get anything. I have at least 8 varieties of chile in my house at any given time.
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Post by: White Lotus on September 16, 2013, 02:03:30 PM
That_One_Girl, you found Mexican of any variation in Japan?  Where?  Please, where? When I am in Asia, that is the one cuisine I like that I can't find.  In cities, I would expect to be able to locate a high-end Mexican/Mexican, often labeled by region, restaurant almost anywhere, but I can't find one in Asia!  Singapore, Tokyo, Taipei, Bangkok, Beijing, nope.  Not on my usual beats.  I don't even see Faux-Mex fast food!  So what do I crave?  In places known for their own fine cuisine?  And with ethnic food restaurants, including US chains, abounding?  Cal-Mex, Tex-Mex, New-Mex, Sonoran, Mex-Mex, etc., etc.  -- the one thing I can't find!
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Post by: Ereine on September 16, 2013, 02:07:21 PM
At least in 2009 there seemed to be at least five Mexican restaurants in Tokyo: http://travel.cnn.com/tokyo/eat/5-best-mexican-restaurants-962738 .
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on November 17, 2013, 03:59:55 PM
This is a place DH and I go to near us. It's fantastic, big servings and the owner's actually from Mexico. He does have 'gringo' items on the menu as I guess people expect them, but there's stuff here you normally wouldn't see in an average Mexican restaurant.

We need to go more often.

http://dossenoritas.com.au
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Post by: Hmmmmm on November 18, 2013, 08:56:07 AM
^^
I love the mixture of this menu. It looks like he's been able to pull items from everywhere.
Baja California with his fish tacos
California with his beer battered fried fish tacos
Texas with some of his TexMex enchiladas & fajitas
New Mexico/Colorado with his pork verde offerings
Mexico with his mole's

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Post by: mechtilde on November 18, 2013, 09:08:50 AM
There are a couple of Mexican places- but how authentic they are, I wouldn't like to say...

I do have a Mexican colleague (please note that this is very unusual in the UK) who has terrible problems getting decent ingredients- she either has to bring it over from Mexico or go to another city nearly three hours away.
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Post by: GlitterIsMyDrug on November 18, 2013, 04:40:02 PM
About 15 years ago we hosted a young man who was visiting from Germany.  We asked if he had ever had Mexican food and he answered that he had - Taco Bell.  We took him someplace a bit more authentic.

I know many people who seem to think Taco Bell is Mexican food, all of them from the states. Don't get me wrong, I like my Taco Bell, but if I want Mexican food I'm going to that shady whole in the wall place down the street where my friends make me order because they can't understand the server most of the time. Wonderful food. If I want a taco for a dollar, I'll head to Taco Bell.

This whole thread is just making me think of a Bowling for Soup song "Come back to Texas" which is about a girl leaving her boyfriend for another guy and running off to Ohio and one of the lines is "The Mexican food sucks north of here anyways", I laugh and laugh. My Ohio buddy tells me Ohio does have lousy Mexican food. I've never been to Ohio and I have no opinion on any of their food.
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on November 18, 2013, 04:45:18 PM
This is a place we went to on a hens night (bachelorette party).

http://m.mejico.com.au/#!/menu/food

The queso was great!
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Post by: Danika on November 18, 2013, 05:47:55 PM
I know many people who seem to think Taco Bell is Mexican food, all of them from the states. Don't get me wrong, I like my Taco Bell, but if I want Mexican food I'm going to that shady whole in the wall place down the street where my friends make me order because they can't understand the server most of the time. Wonderful food. If I want a taco for a dollar, I'll head to Taco Bell.

I grew up in Colorado where there are many Mexican restaurants. When I moved to Massachusetts, I missed Mexican food terribly. When I went to the few restaurants that claimed to have Mexican food there, I saw cockroaches in the kitchen and behind the bar, and I had friends who had seen mice. The only "Mexican" restaurant where I did not see roaches or mice in the Boston/Cambridge area was Taco Bell. So my favorite Mexican restaurant in the Boston area is Taco Bell, for that reason.
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Post by: lowspark on November 19, 2013, 11:12:02 AM
Taco Bell is to Mexican food as McDonald's is to real Hamburgers. It's ok if you're in a hurry or want something cheap, but it's not "the real thing". However, if it were the only Mexican food you'd ever had (just as if McD's were the only burgers you'd ever had) you would think that was it because you wouldn't have anything to compare it to.
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Post by: crella on November 19, 2013, 07:26:32 PM
Re: Mexican food in Japan, this place was great-

http://members3.jcom.home.ne.jp/pancho2/e-index.html

Worth the trip.

Edit: I forgot to mention that it's a very small place, you definitely need a reservation, especially on weekends.
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Post by: sweetonsno on November 21, 2013, 01:28:57 AM
Chili peppers vary widely from region to region. The chilis used in Korean cooking are totally different from the ones used in Latin cooking, which are different from the ones used in Indian cooking, and so forth. The level and type of heat is totally different.

On that note, I found one Mexican restaurant in Seoul. (I think there may have been two total.) It wasn't bad, but it wasn't quite authentic due to a lack of essential ingredients, like cumin and beans. My bean burrito, while tasty, was full of baked beans, which is what was available from the international market. Nobody imported plain pinto or black beans, so I got the baked beans. It was tasty, but wound up being somewhere between English breakfast and Mexican.
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Post by: Nikko-chan on November 21, 2013, 02:00:25 AM
About 15 years ago we hosted a young man who was visiting from Germany.  We asked if he had ever had Mexican food and he answered that he had - Taco Bell.  We took him someplace a bit more authentic.

I know many people who seem to think Taco Bell is Mexican food, all of them from the states. Don't get me wrong, I like my Taco Bell, but if I want Mexican food I'm going to that shady whole in the wall place down the street where my friends make me order because they can't understand the server most of the time. Wonderful food. If I want a taco for a dollar, I'll head to Taco Bell.

This whole thread is just making me think of a Bowling for Soup song "Come back to Texas" which is about a girl leaving her boyfriend for another guy and running off to Ohio and one of the lines is "The Mexican food sucks north of here anyways", I laugh and laugh. My Ohio buddy tells me Ohio does have lousy Mexican food. I've never been to Ohio and I have no opinion on any of their food.

Depends on where you are. There is a Mexican place down the street from where i live that is pretty good.
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Post by: Snooks on November 30, 2013, 02:51:19 PM
We've got a really good Mexican place in the city where I live, you wouldn't go out for dinner there because it's really just a service counter and a bench to eat at.  They've just started a delivery service which means it's now even more tempting because I don't even have to get off the couch!
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Post by: Corvid on November 30, 2013, 03:15:05 PM
I'm going to say no, because outside of Mexico and New Mexico the critical ingredient of chili pepper is relatively hard to find  ;D  I mean seriously, you go up to Colorado and the think green chili involves bell peppers  :P

I would like to dispel this notion. Maybe it is true within the USA

I'm afraid it's not necessarily even true in the USA.  Maybe 20-30 years ago, but nowadays even I, in a small midwestern urban area, can go to several of my local grocery stores and find most kinds of fresh or dried chilis I might want to use.
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Post by: Louie_LI on December 07, 2013, 08:54:06 AM
There are a couple of Mexican places- but how authentic they are, I wouldn't like to say...

I do have a Mexican colleague (please note that this is very unusual in the UK) who has terrible problems getting decent ingredients- she either has to bring it over from Mexico or go to another city nearly three hours away.

Has she tried ordering on line? This place has a good reputation:
http://www.mexgrocer.co.uk/home.php