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Title: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: lilblu on May 04, 2013, 01:32:26 AM
I don't eat out at restaurants very often. On the rare occasion that I go out with relatives, they usually order cocktails and I'm often tempted to get one too. But the problem is that the cocktail menus don't include prices and I like to know how much things cost beforehand. In fact, I always base what I order on how much things cost. I usually order the lower priced items even if I want the more expensive stuff.

So how am I supposed to find out how much the cocktails are if there are no prices on the menu? I don't feel comfortable asking and it seems rude to ask about the prices. I guess I should mention that these are just regular restaurants where jeans are the standard attire. If this were a fancy restaurant I believe it would actually be considered inappropriate to ask about prices, correct?

I'm inclined to think that asking about the prices is inappropriate and that I shouldn't do it. But I just don't know. These are the same restaurants that offer coupons online if you signup with their website, so it can't be that horrible.  What's the opinion on this?

I hate going to restaurants because of this kind of thing. I'm extremely shy and I have anxiety whenever I have to talk to the server. Giving my order isn't too bad, but anything beyond that is horrible for me.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: MariaE on May 04, 2013, 01:38:22 AM
Asking for prices isn't inappropriate - at least not at any of the restaurants I've been to. However, if asking the server makes you feel uncomfortable, maybe you could call the restaurant at a different time (early, so they won't be busy) and ask about the prices there?
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: sweetonsno on May 04, 2013, 02:27:03 AM
It seems very strange to me that there are no prices on the menu. Are you sure about that? I've been to restaurants that organize the cocktail menu by price. There might be a $6 page, an $8 page, and a $10 page, for instance. Sometimes it's hard to find the prices because they aren't right next to the menu items and they may be written in a more subtle font.

Anyway, I understand your hesitation about asking, though I don't think it would be rude to do so. MariaE has a good idea if you decide that you'd prefer to not ask while you are sitting with your relatives.

Are your relatives treating? If so, and they're ordering cocktails, you probably have a green light to do the same. You can ask your hosts for a recommendation (and assume that they will suggest items that are within their "acceptable expenditure" range), order what they're having, or order a well drink, which is likely to be cheaper.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: StarFaerie on May 04, 2013, 03:46:16 AM
I don't think it is even inappropriate to ask about price when it's your money that you are spending. I have asked prices in very expensive restaurants, usually when the sommelier is giving his wine suggestions, price is always part of my decision so I ask for the information that I require.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Hmmmmm on May 04, 2013, 04:27:28 AM
I have seen some restaurants who don't list prices on cocktails and usually because the price can change if the a specific brand of alcohol is requested. Call the restaurant before hand and ask the price of a specific type you enjoy.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Sharnita on May 04, 2013, 05:19:53 AM
I've been to several restaurants that don't put the prices on their mixed drinks.  I have ordered a drink only to find it was more expensive than the meal.  Since then I ask.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Kaypeep on May 04, 2013, 06:10:13 AM
If possible, arrive at the restaurant early and go to the bar and ask the bartender to explain the drink menu and pricing structure.  As someone pointed out, depending on the brand of liquor, the prices can change.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Venus193 on May 04, 2013, 06:41:46 AM
This is one of my biggest peeves about restaurants these days.  There are chain restaurants that don't list any drink prices, including soda.  It really would be a good thing if people massively complained about this by sending e-mails to corporate and posting this on Yelp.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Giggity on May 04, 2013, 06:48:09 AM
What do you do? You do what anyone does. You ask.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: ti_ax on May 04, 2013, 07:19:58 AM
If you're spending your money, you have every right to ask the price up front.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: audrey1962 on May 04, 2013, 07:26:20 AM
If youre paying, then It's always appropriate to ask about prices, regardless of how "fancy" the venue is.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: gellchom on May 04, 2013, 07:28:10 AM
 I see this more and more, and I hate it.  I can only assume that restaurants are counting on customers being too embarrassed to ask.  I'm not shy, and I feel uncomfortable asking, too.  I do it, but I resent it.   If someone else is treating, I wouldn't ask, and if I am treating others, I feel like I am dissuading them from ordering whatever they want, so I don't like to ask then either.

I don't buy it about the price of a requested premium brand changing the price.  In that case, the server should simply inform the patron of the additional charge when they request the brand, with or without a notation on the menu.  They seem perfectly capable of doing that with food -- like onion rings instead of fries with a sandwich.

I really wish restaurants would stop this nasty practice.

Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: thedudeabides on May 04, 2013, 07:59:53 AM
Ask.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Sophia on May 04, 2013, 08:02:23 AM
I've seen the no price thing, and that is enough to make me decide to not. 
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: rose red on May 04, 2013, 08:08:46 AM
I hate when they don't even have the price of soda listed.  I just ask "What's the price of XYZ?"
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Harriet Jones on May 04, 2013, 08:21:08 AM
Just ask, no one is going to think less of you.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Morticia on May 04, 2013, 08:22:30 AM
DH and I went into this bar/lounge because it looked cool and ordered cocktails. We hadn't consulted a menu because drinks are generally drinks.  The bar snacks were truffle oil popcorn. After I discovered this I asked how much a round of drinks for the two of us was. The bartender did not think the question was rude at all. ($30, about twice the normal, if you're interested). If money is a concern, just ask.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Oh Joy on May 04, 2013, 08:33:03 AM
I can see how this would be uncomfortable, as I'm picturing several different exchanges in my head.  All socially acceptable, but possibly not feeling very refined.

If it were me, I might start with, 'Some of these cocktails sound really good!  What's the price range for the drinks on this menu?'  If the bottom's in my range but the top isn't, then I might follow by asking about a couple that appealed.  Otherwise I know they're all OK or not OK for me.

Best wishes.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: camlan on May 04, 2013, 09:25:13 AM
It is not rude to ask the price of something for sale in a retail establishment. And that's what a restaurant or bar is--a retail establishment that sells food and drink for consumption on the premises.

I think it is rude of the restaurant not to list prices.

Just ask. "How much is a martini?" or "How much is a gin and tonic?"
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Thipu1 on May 04, 2013, 09:42:14 AM
Of course, you should ask but several factors can give you an idea of relative prices. 

As a rule, drinks may be priced by 'moves'.  A gin and tonic is a two-move drink so it will normally be cheaper than a fancy martini. A sea breeze is a three-move drink but, since two of the ingredients are fruit juice, it may be only slightly more expensive than a gin and tonic. 

  A gin and tonic made with 'well' gin (say Gordon's) will be cheaper than one made with Bombay Sapphire. 

You also have to be careful with wine.  I once ordered a glass that turned out to be more expensive that Mr. Thipu's Maker's Mark.  From that point on, it was house wine only. 

Still, it's always best to ask.  No one will think any the less of you for it. 
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: *inviteseller on May 04, 2013, 10:50:52 AM
Some restaurants have a separate drink menu with prices, but most of the time, drink prices are not listed because they do change often.  You seem to limit yourself to the cheapest items on the menu, so why not ask the server what the drink specials are for the day?  That way you know you are getting something that won't be too expensive. 
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Yvaine on May 04, 2013, 10:57:44 AM
A gin and tonic made with 'well' gin (say Gordon's) will be cheaper than one made with Bombay Sapphire.

This is a very good point. They may not list prices because it depends on whether you get well booze or brand name booze. Just use your words, OP, and ask.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: delabela on May 04, 2013, 11:03:34 AM
Some restaurants have a separate drink menu with prices, but most of the time, drink prices are not listed because they do change often.  You seem to limit yourself to the cheapest items on the menu, so why not ask the server what the drink specials are for the day?  That way you know you are getting something that won't be too expensive.

This might be a good idea - or if you want to not deal with the whole thing, generally beer and wine are going to be cheaper than mixed drinks.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: citadelle on May 04, 2013, 11:45:21 AM
What do you do? You do what anyone does. You ask.

My very first POD.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Otterpop on May 04, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
I've been to several restaurants that don't put the prices on their mixed drinks.  I have ordered a drink only to find it was more expensive than the meal.  Since then I ask.

I've had that happen too, ordered the enchilada special for $7.99 and a margarita.  When the bill came the margarita was $13.99!!! I had brought only $20 and had to pay the rest on credit card.

Ask the server without hesitation or embarrassment.  Having no prices on the menu is aggravating and is THEIR problem, not yours.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: artk2002 on May 04, 2013, 12:00:05 PM
Some restaurants have a separate drink menu with prices, but most of the time, drink prices are not listed because they do change often.  You seem to limit yourself to the cheapest items on the menu, so why not ask the server what the drink specials are for the day?  That way you know you are getting something that won't be too expensive.

This might be a good idea - or if you want to not deal with the whole thing, generally beer and wine are going to be cheaper than mixed drinks.

I'd be careful. I've found that the special cocktail of the day, much like the dinner special, is more expensive than otherwise.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: DragonKitty on May 04, 2013, 01:28:17 PM
Ask if they have a cocktails menu.  Then if they hand you one with no prices in it, you can say nothing interests you, and go with water or iced tea.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Yvaine on May 04, 2013, 01:37:17 PM
Ask if they have a cocktails menu.  Then if they hand you one with no prices in it, you can say nothing interests you, and go with water or iced tea.

I just don't see this as more desirable than simply asking. I mean, if I specifically want a cocktail, I'm not going to punish myself by only having water just because I'm piqued about the menu format.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Bijou on May 04, 2013, 03:14:18 PM
Not putting the price of the cocktails on the menu seems like an attempt by the restaurant to be hoity toity and I can see how it would be intimidating to ask (as in, 'if you have to ask how much it costs you can't afford it.").  I say ask anyway.  I sure wouldn't go into a clothing store or a auto sales business and buy something without checking the price...or even the five and dime, for that matter.  Imagine ordering a cocktail, price unknown, drinking it, worrying all the time about the price, and then getting the bill for $51.95 for one Screwdriver.  >:(
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Specky on May 04, 2013, 03:30:40 PM
If they don't list prices, I order water.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: guihong on May 04, 2013, 03:44:57 PM
Is this a carryover from when some restaurants had "ladies menus" with no prices on it (because of course the man was going to pay  :P)?

Regardless, I see no reason to "punish" myself if I really want a cocktail.  Just ask.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: TootsNYC on May 04, 2013, 03:59:07 PM
it seems rude to ask about the prices.

I'm inclined to think that asking about the prices is inappropriate and that I shouldn't do it.

This is business. Of course you can and should ask about cocktail prices. And it doesn't matter whether it's an expensive restaurant or a cheap one.

And if you're too shy to ask in person, feel free to call and ask on the phone before you go.

In fact, if you tend to go to the same several places. you might call them all up and ask them all. Think of it as a research project.

(They don't put the prices because cocktails tend to be more expensive. It's a way to get more people to order without thinking about the price.)

If anybody *IS* being rude, the RESTAURANT is being rude.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Figgie on May 04, 2013, 05:27:56 PM
I usually know if I am the mood for something like wine or what mixed drinks I am interested in by the time I am seated at a restaurant.  So, I ask specifically.  How much is the house chardonnay?  How much is the house (stand in for well drink) margarita or screwdriver?  The wait staff tells me the prices and I decide whether or not to order. 

If the prices are what seems exceptionally high, I may ask what is the cheapest white wine option or cheapest cocktail.  This is a business relationship and I don't care if they think I am cheap or not. :)
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Deetee on May 05, 2013, 07:15:59 AM
Like everyone else I agree that it is not rude or inappropriate to ask. It is absolutely not rude if you are paying. If someone else is paying you can order see what they are ordering or an equivalent. (Gin and tonic or rum and coke would be equal)
A few thoughts. I find it a little easier to ask slightly before ordering so to ask for a few drink prices and then the server can take everyone else's order and then you order.

Also I find it really annoying because I like to weigh the cost and the item. I might prefer the roast chicken and shrimp entree over the seafood chowder but I might not prefer it enough to shell out an extra ten dollars.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Snowy Owl on May 05, 2013, 08:44:10 AM
it seems rude to ask about the prices.

I'm inclined to think that asking about the prices is inappropriate and that I shouldn't do it.

This is business. Of course you can and should ask about cocktail prices. And it doesn't matter whether it's an expensive restaurant or a cheap one.

And if you're too shy to ask in person, feel free to call and ask on the phone before you go.

This so much.  It's business relationship, and before you buy things you've a right to know their prices.  I've never had a waiter take offence at being asked the price of something.  They know people are often on a budget. 

I'd agree that cost sometimes depends on the age / quality of the base spirit.

I prefer that the cost is on the menu but am quite willing to ask if it isn't. 
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Thipu1 on May 05, 2013, 10:25:17 AM
A local restaurant does this well.  They offer two levels of wine in red or white, 'House Plonk' or 'House Cheap Plonk'.  Both are actually quite good. 
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Twik on May 05, 2013, 01:13:50 PM
it seems rude to ask about the prices.

I'm inclined to think that asking about the prices is inappropriate and that I shouldn't do it.

This is business. Of course you can and should ask about cocktail prices. And it doesn't matter whether it's an expensive restaurant or a cheap one.

Well, if you are using personal, rather than business, etiquette, it would be rude to ask the price of the cocktail, but it would be *particularly* rude of the establishment to ask you to reimburse them for their offer of hospitality.

So, it's business etiquette. There is nothing rude with asking a price before purchasing an item.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Deetee on May 05, 2013, 01:53:03 PM
Asking the price if something that someone is selling you is never rude. But it is rude ( with some exceptions) to ask the cost of things offered socially.

So in a case where someone else is paying for the meal I would be a little more  reluctant to ask prices.  That's a weird over lap of social and business.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: AdamsOffOx on May 05, 2013, 02:04:55 PM
You can usually make a decent guess by the atmosphere and decor. If it's a snazzy-looking place with mirrors everywhere, brightly lit and everything sparkling clean, you can pretty much count on everything costing double digits. If it's a dive, you might be able to get a cocktail with well booze for as little as $3 - $4.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: bopper on May 06, 2013, 08:21:15 AM
Another thing you could do is choose a page on the menu or section of the page and  ask the waitress "what is the general price range of these drinks?"  If they say $8-12 and you are comfortable with that, then order something unless the difference between 8 and 12 makes a difference to you.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Thipu1 on May 06, 2013, 09:59:12 AM
Asking the price if something that someone is selling you is never rude. But it is rude ( with some exceptions) to ask the cost of things offered socially.

So in a case where someone else is paying for the meal I would be a little more  reluctant to ask prices.  That's a weird over lap of social and business.

I'm not sure it would be rude to ask about drink prices if someone else is treating me to a dinner in a restaurant. After all, if someone is nice enough to pay for my meal, I don't want them to pay more than they have to. 
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: gellchom on May 06, 2013, 10:19:58 AM
I don't think it's rude of a diner to ask in any situation.  I find it annoying to have to ask, but I don't feel rude or wrong under ordinary circumstances.

But if I am treating or being treated, it is embarrassing and awkward.  Think about a first date or a business interview.

So what I think is rude, or maybe just obnoxious, is the restaurant's not listing the prices. I think they are deliberately exploiting people's reticence. 

Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: sunnygirl on May 06, 2013, 10:20:37 AM
I don't think it's rude or inappropriate to ask, even in the poshest restaurants. I always ask if there are no prices, and I've never had anyone look at me strangely for it.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Venus193 on May 06, 2013, 10:32:44 AM
I don't think it's rude of a diner to ask in any situation.  I find it annoying to have to ask, but I don't feel rude or wrong under ordinary circumstances.

But if I am treating or being treated, it is embarrassing and awkward.  Think about a first date or a business interview.

So what I think is rude, or maybe just obnoxious, is the restaurant's not listing the prices. I think they are deliberately exploiting people's reticence.

Re:  Business Interview

It might be wise to refrain from consuming alcohol if the meal is an interview.  If it's a lunch over a deal, the answer can be different.  It is best to know whether the host's company has a policy on this subject.

Exponential ditto to the bolded.  I was always taught that anyone who has to ask the price can't afford the item in question and while that isn't always true it still feels true.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: magicdomino on May 06, 2013, 10:52:23 AM
I noticed the other day that Red Lobster didn't have prices for their "signature" cocktails.  As it happens, I have ordered one before, and know it is about the same price as a glass of wine. Basically, I go on experience:  cocktails at casual chains cost about X, the top shelf version of the margarita will cost Y more, and if this is a fancy place where the cost of the appetizers run double-digits, the cocktails will as well.

Hm, I wonder if the cost of appetizers can be used as a rough estimate for bottom shelf cocktails.  Has anyone noticed?
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: DavidH on May 06, 2013, 11:16:19 AM
I think it's fine to ask the price for a small number of drinks, but not the entire menu one by one.  I undersand why many places wouldn't have a menu listing all possible drinks and don't really have a problem with that.  For a printed menu of specially drinks, it does seem kind of ridiculous not to show prices.  I can't quite see asking, what's your least expensive drink. 

In general, the price variation for house cocktails (alcohol and a mixer), say gin and tonic, vodka tonic, rum and coke, vodka cranberry, is within a dollar or two, so it's unlikely to get you much savings by asking about each one, so it might be easier to ask just about one that you are interested in.  The next price point might be martinis since in many places they have more alcohol.  Another category is specialty drinks, the ones listed on a menu.  Finally, you get into premium brands, for those, it's worth asking, particularly if you are talking about a very special scotch or Cognac which can get very expensive and vary quite a lot.

For beer, there are probably three or four categories, inexpensive domestic vs. premium (microbrews, imported, etc) on tap and then the same two categories in a bottle.  Within each category, there is not usually much variation, say a dollar or two, so asking for the price of each beer is a bit much, I think.   

Wine is a whole different issue, with the potential for huge variation and a wine menu with prices is key for all but the house wines, where you could certainly ask. 
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Twik on May 07, 2013, 08:54:00 AM
I think it's fine to ask the price for a small number of drinks, but not the entire menu one by one. 

Well, all I can say is that if a restaurant doesn't want servers to have to go repeatedly through its entire drink list ("The margarita is $8, the daiquiri is $7 - no, I'm not sure why they're different - and the gin and tonic is $6, but not if you want top-shelf gin...."), they should put the prices on the menu where they belong.  >:D
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Lynn2000 on May 07, 2013, 09:56:33 AM
I like the idea of calling beforehand to ask the price of a few specific drinks you're interested in. You could even email them if they have a web presence (and at the same time suggest they put the drink prices on their printed/online menus!).

If someone's treating you to dinner, I would order the same cocktail they did, or one that seems equivalent. I don't know too much about drinks, but if they ordered a choco-tini, for example, an apple-tini would probably cost about the same. I can see how asking the waiter in that situation would be weird, because it doesn't help to just know the price of your own drink, you also want to know how it stands in relation to what your host ordered.

I also like the idea of asking your host to recommend a drink to you, as they will probably pick one at a price point they feel comfortable with (even if they don't know the actual price, they'll probably pick something equivalent to what they got for themselves). At the very least, if they pick something for you that turns out to be more expensive, it will have been their suggestion, not yours.

If you're paying for yourself, it's absolutely okay to ask about prices. I like the idea of saying, "What's the price range for this page" or "this section of drinks," or you can ask about one specific drink you're interested in. If you're with people and feel embarrassed asking in front of them, you could try going to the ladies' room and stop by the bar on the way to ask the bartender how much something is, then order it when you come back to your table.

I would think a good waiter would help you find a drink you wanted, at the price you wanted, because otherwise you're not going to order anything--if you don't want to buy a $10 drink, they should happily help you find a $5 drink, instead of leaving you hanging to order $0 water.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: DavidH on May 07, 2013, 10:25:18 AM
Everyone seems surprised by this, but it's very rare that I even see a full drink menu at either a bar or restaurant.  They typically have a list of specialty drinks and then the rest is up to the patron to know is an option.  Is it typical to see lists with things like vodka and soda, gin and tonic, vodka and cranberry, etc?  Normally it's just things like chocolate martinis or a french 75.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Yvaine on May 07, 2013, 10:29:30 AM
Everyone seems surprised by this, but it's very rare that I even see a full drink menu at either a bar or restaurant.  They typically have a list of specialty drinks and then the rest is up to the patron to know is an option.  Is it typical to see lists with things like vodka and soda, gin and tonic, vodka and cranberry, etc?  Normally it's just things like chocolate martinis or a french 75.

Some restaurants have a huge drink menu, actually. I've often seen this at some of the "bar and grill" chains like Applebee's. The drink menu will be as big as the food one, with lots of specialty drink options that they invented or have their own twist on (though I'm sure they can still do the standard gin-and-tonic types of drinks).
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Hmmmmm on May 07, 2013, 04:54:53 PM
I don't think it's rude of a diner to ask in any situation.  I find it annoying to have to ask, but I don't feel rude or wrong under ordinary circumstances.

But if I am treating or being treated, it is embarrassing and awkward.  Think about a first date or a business interview.

So what I think is rude, or maybe just obnoxious, is the restaurant's not listing the prices. I think they are deliberately exploiting people's reticence.

Re:  Business Interview

It might be wise to refrain from consuming alcohol if the meal is an interview.  If it's a lunch over a deal, the answer can be different.  It is best to know whether the host's company has a policy on this subject.

Exponential ditto to the bolded.  I was always taught that anyone who has to ask the price can't afford the item in question and while that isn't always true it still feels true.

I have always found the line "If you have to ask, you can't afford it" to be a put down.

There is a huge difference between "having" to ask and "wanting" to know.

If I only have $10 dollars to my name, then yes, I have to ask how much the glass of wine is and I probably shouldn't be ordering a glass of wine anyway in that case.

But it could be that I have unlimited funds available but have no interest in spending $25 on a glass of wine. I could be just as happy with another selection that is $10 per glass. And if your my ubber wealthy aunt, she'll tell you to just wait and buy a bottle for $25 on the way home.:)

Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: magicdomino on May 07, 2013, 04:59:22 PM
And if your my ubber wealthy aunt, she'll tell you to just wait and buy a bottle for $25 on the way home.:)

And that is how uber wealthy aunts stay uber wealthy.   :D
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Slartibartfast on May 08, 2013, 02:44:27 AM
I've gotten burned by this even though I don't drink - $8 for a half glass of Coke at a hotel bar!  I can understand raising the prices on alcohol, but a 64x markup over what the can of soda cost to begin with is a bit much!
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Amava on May 08, 2013, 04:19:18 AM

I have always found the line "If you have to ask, you can't afford it" to be a put down.

There is a huge difference between "having" to ask and "wanting" to know.

Very true. I think the line "If you have to ask, you can't afford it", is a way of  playing into customers' insecurities (counting on the fact that they think "looking poor because they have to ask" is somehow shameful) in order to make them spend unresponsibly.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Venus193 on May 08, 2013, 04:37:24 AM
I've gotten burned by this even though I don't drink - $8 for a half glass of Coke at a hotel bar!  I can understand raising the prices on alcohol, but a 64x markup over what the can of soda cost to begin with is a bit much!

That is obscene but not unique to hotels.

There is an Indian restaurant in the East Village with an excellent $7 lunch special.  However, if you order a soda it's $3.50 for a glass.  The lunch then ends up costing $14 or $15 after tax and tip,  I have no idea if you can get a free refill on the soda.
Title: Re: No prices on cocktail menus - what do I do?
Post by: Otterpop on May 08, 2013, 02:53:06 PM

I have always found the line "If you have to ask, you can't afford it" to be a put down.

There is a huge difference between "having" to ask and "wanting" to know.

Very true. I think the line "If you have to ask, you can't afford it", is a way of  playing into customers' insecurities (counting on the fact that they think "looking poor because they have to ask" is somehow shameful) in order to make them spend unresponsibly.

Ha, ha, that must be the tactic.  The majority of us can "afford" an $8 Coke but few of us want to buy one (unless we're desperate).  I guess it's best to stuff the manufactured embarrassment and ask the price.