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Title: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: BeagleMommy on May 24, 2013, 03:02:02 PM
Every semester an email goes out to all faculty, staff and students at my university.  It reads:

Please remember that the squirrels that can be seen on campus are wild animals.  Please do not try to pet, hold, or pick up the squirrels.  Please do not try to feed them by hand.  If you want to provide treats for the squirrels, please scatter food on the lawns.  Squirrels are rodents and can inflict serious bite wounds requiring medical attention.  Squirrels may also carry rabies.

Every year I keep thinking:  these are grown people.  Do we really need to tell them to leave squirrels alone?  :o

What crazy things (that should be common sense) have you had to tell people.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: nuit93 on May 24, 2013, 03:11:45 PM
That having a $1000 credit limit on a credit card does not mean that you have to spend $1000 every month.

I had an ex who believed this. Luckily, he didn't actually HAVE any credit cards--this was the reason he'd avoided them.  He thought you had to spend that amount or pay some kind of fee.

He was in his early 20's...I'd already learned about how CC's worked by the time I was in high school.

What are some others...well, things like basic car maintenance (if the oil light comes on in your car, stop driving!). 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: ladyknight1 on May 24, 2013, 03:13:47 PM
See those large creatures there in the water? Don't feed them, it makes them more aggressive. Don't walk your dogs near them either. Those are alligators, and they would love a snack. (Every year, we have people who are shocked that alligators will eat pets.)

Same with coyotes. We have packs of coyotes that travel through neighborhoods at night and try to catch pets and stray animals for dinner. Keeping your cats outside in Florida is not a good idea.

Keep your garbage locked in a can with a lid, or you will be visited by raccoons and even bears. Yes, the Florida black bear is cute and small, but they should eat their natural foods not your garbage.

Don't put your aquarium plants and animals in our waterways. We have major issues with non-native species competing with native species here.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Emmy on May 24, 2013, 03:15:13 PM
In the gym there is a sign on the indoor track which says 'no spitting'. 
Another sign at a historical ruins site said "the ruins are not a toilet, please use restroom at visitor's center".

I find it pretty sad that signs would have to be put up to remind people not to do these things.

Some more humorous ones.
One of my friends in my group from college moved out to the west coast after graduation (we went to school on the east coast).  Another friend called him at 8 a.m. which was 5 a.m. Pacific time.  He said he thought the west coast was three hours behind the east coast.  The kicker was he just graduated with a major in geography.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Kimberami on May 24, 2013, 03:16:19 PM
We have a sign in our employee's only restroom that says "Please Flush!"   :o
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: otterwoman on May 24, 2013, 03:24:54 PM
Every semester an email goes out to all faculty, staff and students at my university.  It reads:

Please remember that the squirrels that can be seen on campus are wild animals.  Please do not try to pet, hold, or pick up the squirrels.  Please do not try to feed them by hand.  If you want to provide treats for the squirrels, please scatter food on the lawns.  Squirrels are rodents and can inflict serious bite wounds requiring medical attention.  Squirrels may also carry rabies.

Every year I keep thinking:  these are grown people.  Do we really need to tell them to leave squirrels alone?  :o

What crazy things (that should be common sense) have you had to tell people.

Actually, there has never been a case of rabies being transmitted by a squirrel. http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/resources/facts/rabies.html

That being said, people should not pet the squirrels.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: faithlessone on May 24, 2013, 03:39:54 PM
"Reindeer aren't fictional."

Also, I recently had to tell a 40-something (otherwise perfectly competent) man that it's not ok to put metal in a microwave. Worrying.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Shalamar on May 24, 2013, 03:49:30 PM
Emmy's story reminded me of when my co-worker was called by a colleague in the States (we're in Canada).  The colleague's timezone was two hours before ours.  He called at noon our time and asked my co-worker "Is now a good time to talk?"  My co-worker said "Actually, I was just about to leave for lunch."  Colleague laughed, said "Good one", and proceeded to talk poor co-worker's ear off. 

I have another one - I was visiting Orlando, Florida a few years ago and wanted to send a postcard to my parents in British Columbia.  I didn't know how much postage I'd need, so I asked the drug store clerk.  "How much is it to mail a postcard to Canada?"  "Canada?  Whereabouts in the States is that?"  "It's not a state - it's the country to the north."  Blank look.  I went somewhere else. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jones on May 24, 2013, 03:57:15 PM
Someone should have told my mother that she shouldn't have her children feed the chipmunks just for a good picture. On the plus side, though I have scratch scars from a rabbit, I was never hurt by a chipmunk.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Lynn2000 on May 24, 2013, 04:03:48 PM
See, some of these don't strike me as that silly. :D Personally, I don't like animals, so I never try to feed/pet the squirrels that run all over campus, but lots of other people do. It's kind of a student tradition here, and I've never seen any emails or warnings about them. So someone coming from a situation like that, might very well appreciate knowing that the practice is not encouraged in their new location.

And, as a biologist, I know a fair amount about invasive species and how they get into the environment; but I'm not sure I'd expect the general public to be aware of this. I doubt they even realize their aquarium pets are going to survive being dumped into the local river--I figured most adults told their children this as a pleasant fiction. "We're setting Fishy free in the river!" while thinking Fishy will be toast in about ten minutes.

Though, I do think that if you actually move to an area to live, you should acquaint yourself with "natural hazards" like wildlife that gets into garbage or could eat your pets, and should not be taken by surprise by that.

My own contribution: I supervise undergrad students who work part-time in our office. Over the years I've had to explain to more than one that there are four sets of numbers on a credit card, which they have to type into a website to order supplies for us. Not just three. Granted, the fourth set doesn't seem to have good contrast with the background of our office credit card, but I'm always boggled that they didn't even know it was there. I guess they don't have credit cards, or if they have them, they've never really looked at them and have never bought anything online.  ???
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: DottyG on May 24, 2013, 04:10:33 PM
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"How much is it to mail a postcard to Canada?"

Wouldn't it be just a normal stamp?  I've never had to pay a different amount when sending something to Europe, so I'd assume putting a regular stamp on it would work for Canada from the US, too.

Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Sebastienne on May 24, 2013, 04:23:51 PM
It definitely costs more to mail something overseas (or over-border, I guess). An international first-class letter is $1.30 right now. http://ircalc.usps.com/Mobile/MailServices.aspx?country=10113&m=1&p=0&o=1&c=1
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Dazi on May 24, 2013, 04:25:27 PM
Well, I can see not knowing the postage rate to another country, but not knowing Canada is our neighbor to the North is just sad.  Honestly, I have no idea what the going rate for postage inside the US is.  I rarely mail things out and when I do, I just pop in the post office.

I have had to tell more than one adult not to feed or taunt the gators.  Don't let your child or pets swim in that body of water because of gators.  Gators, hawks and other large birds of prey will eat your small and not so small pets.  Don't pick up that cute little snake, it's a pygmy rattler and can kill you.

New Mexico is a state in the US, not it's own country.

See that red/black line running up your arm...you have blood poisoning, go to the ER now.

How credit cards/APR works. 

What a budget is...how to make and following one.

Stopping at a red light is not optional and cannot be treated like a four way stop.

You shouldn't eat leftovers that you left out on the counter all night.

That's poison ivy/oak/sumac.  An alarming number of people have no idea what it looks like.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: QueenfaninCA on May 24, 2013, 04:33:34 PM
I've never had to pay a different amount when sending something to Europe

What? Of course mail to Europe costs more than mail inside the US. Who told you it would cost the same?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on May 24, 2013, 04:49:48 PM

That's poison ivy/oak/sumac.  An alarming number of people have no idea what it looks like.

Count me as one.  Poison Ivy sure, leaves of 3, let it be.  Last summer we had poison sumac growing on the outside of our fence and my neighbor told me "Oh it's walnut trees getting going and you don't want those around your property!  You can tell they're walnut trees by smelling the leaves and if they smell nutty, it's walnut!"  Now my neighbor's a sweet woman so she wouldn't trick me in that way.   

So I did touch the leaves and started getting some odd itchy bumps and had no idea what they were, thought they were bedbugs until I couldn't take it anymore and went into urgent care to find out it was poison sumac.  We got rid of it all but I learned not to trust my neighbor's knowledge of plants!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: DottyG on May 24, 2013, 04:52:42 PM
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What? Of course mail to Europe costs more than mail inside the US. Who told you it would cost the same?

LOL!  Well, let's see.  The post office when I put it in the mail, the recipient who received it and didn't have to pay anything upon receipt (so no more was necessary for it to arrive safely)......

ETA:  I suppose something could have happened in the way things are done in the past year, though.  It's been about that long since I've mailed anything over there.  But, until then, I had no problems with a regular stamp.
 
 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Dazi on May 24, 2013, 05:05:26 PM

That's poison ivy/oak/sumac.  An alarming number of people have no idea what it looks like.

Count me as one.  Poison Ivy sure, leaves of 3, let it be.

Actually the same applies to poison oak.  It has three leaflets.  Poison sumac is trickier and it can get HUGE.  Sumac it by far, the worst of the three.

I have a ton of allergies both food and airborne, but am a rare one in that I don't have any reaction to poison ivy, oak or sumac.



Speaking of allergies...I cannot count the number of adults who are convinced they have some mutant cold or flu when what they actually have is seasonal allergies.  They are always so shocked when the doctor confirms it.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: QueenfaninCA on May 24, 2013, 05:06:24 PM
Sorry, but no way a 30 or 40 something cent stamp gets mail to Europe. If yours got through, someone was just really nice. Airmailing a letter or postcard to Europe cost more than 50 cents when I moved to the US 15 years ago and hasn't become cheaper since.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jedikaiti on May 24, 2013, 05:16:33 PM
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What? Of course mail to Europe costs more than mail inside the US. Who told you it would cost the same?

LOL!  Well, let's see.  The post office when I put it in the mail, the recipient who received it and didn't have to pay anything upon receipt (so no more was necessary for it to arrive safely)......

ETA:  I suppose something could have happened in the way things are done in the past year, though.  It's been about that long since I've mailed anything over there.  But, until then, I had no problems with a regular stamp.

I have ALWAYS had to pay more to mail anything to any other country. Postcards, letters, packages, etc. I think a regular small postcard within the US is $0.33 (more for the bigger postcards), but to England it's more like $1.10. Something close to those amounts - I know this because several months ago, we sent out postcard save-the-dates for our wedding, including 1 to England, and another to New Zealand. Same price to both countries, but still significantly more than the ones staying in the US. Same deal different amounts for the actual invitations.

Is it possible that the post office just told you that it was Y amount to send your item, not mentioning that Y is rather more than X, the current domestic mail rate?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Shalamar on May 24, 2013, 05:17:47 PM
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I cannot count the number of adults who are convinced they have some mutant cold or flu when what they actually have is seasonal allergies.

That was me when I was 18.  I thought I had a cold that wouldn't go away, and it was driving me nuts.  Meanwhile, my mother was convinced that I was blowing my nose constantly just to be annoying.  ('Kay ...)  I'm not sure who was more surprised when the doctor confirmed that I had allergies, her or me.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Thipu1 on May 24, 2013, 05:22:35 PM
A classic from a cruise ship.

'Passengers are reminded that it is forbidden to fish or crab from any balcony or open deck'. 

On the ship in question, the lowest open deck or balcony accessible to passengers was a good fifty feet above the water line. How could you possibly hope to catch anything from that height?   

It's scary to think that this had to go into the passenger handbook because someone, somewhere along the line tried it. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Kariachi on May 24, 2013, 05:38:12 PM

That's poison ivy/oak/sumac.  An alarming number of people have no idea what it looks like.

Count me as one.  Poison Ivy sure, leaves of 3, let it be.

Actually the same applies to poison oak.  It has three leaflets.  Poison sumac is trickier and it can get HUGE.  Sumac it by far, the worst of the three.

I have a ton of allergies both food and airborne, but am a rare one in that I don't have any reaction to poison ivy, oak or sumac.

I grew up visiting relatives that have a pond on their property during the summer. That pond is shielded from the road by a huge row of poison sumac. One day, when I was about seven, I, knowing nothing, gathered up the flowers to bring in for the table. My aunt lost her mind.

To this day I've still never had a reaction to poison sumac, and I hope to someday have a row of it. Still think it's one of the prettiest plants.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: artk2002 on May 24, 2013, 05:54:52 PM
Every semester an email goes out to all faculty, staff and students at my university.  It reads:

Please remember that the squirrels that can be seen on campus are wild animals.  Please do not try to pet, hold, or pick up the squirrels.  Please do not try to feed them by hand.  If you want to provide treats for the squirrels, please scatter food on the lawns.  Squirrels are rodents and can inflict serious bite wounds requiring medical attention.  Squirrels may also carry rabies.

Every year I keep thinking:  these are grown people.  Do we really need to tell them to leave squirrels alone?  :o

What crazy things (that should be common sense) have you had to tell people.

Actually, there has never been a case of rabies being transmitted by a squirrel. http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/resources/facts/rabies.html

That being said, people should not pet the squirrels.

How 'bout bubonic plague and Rocky Mountain spotted fever? Are those acceptable substitutes for rabies? Also, squirrels are mammals -- the fact that there's been no recorded case of transmittal, that doesn't mean that they don't carry it (they can) and that doesn't mean that they can't transmit it. Only that they haven't -- yet.

Frankly the above advice about feeding them by scattering food on the lawn is just as bad as someone trying to pet them. Squirrels fed by humans will: 1) Increase beyond the natural capacity of the location to support; 2) Become accustomed and therefore unafraid of humans; and 3) Become aggressive. Feeding squirrels, whether by hand or by scattering food is a very bad idea.

Not to mention the fact that the grey squirrel is considered an invasive species.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: MorgnsGrl on May 24, 2013, 05:55:39 PM
Butter is made from MILK. (Shocking, I know.)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: ladyknight1 on May 24, 2013, 05:57:17 PM
DH and DS went fishing in the lake near his parents house. There were many branches in the water, so DH started pulling some out so they could keep from catching the hook. He later realized that poison oak can irritate you underwater. He had a cross hatch pattern rash for weeks on his legs.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: rose red on May 24, 2013, 05:59:03 PM
Many people grow vegetables and have apple trees at suburban homes.  But I've had a few people stunned to realise you can have other kinds of fruit trees, like peach or pear or cherry trees.  It's like they think those can only grow on a farm.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: *inviteseller on May 24, 2013, 06:05:52 PM
I love reading the warnings on packaging ..they are sometimes so off the wall, you laugh until you realize they had to put it on there because some dolt used a basic item wrong (preparation H is not to be used orally!) .  My recent favorite was having to tell my sister, an otherwise intelligent woman, that even though my DD wanted her to beep her horn good bye to her as she dropped her off at school after an appointment, it was inappropriate because SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION!!  Why anyone would think that repeatedly honking your horn when you are parked right in front of classrooms is a good idea, I have no idea but I just about lost it when she said ok and went to do it! 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kherbert05 on May 24, 2013, 06:14:08 PM
Do not let your children play on someone else's farm property, in camo, during hunting season.


Followed by -Just because no one lives on a piece of property does not make that land public property that your kids can tear up with their atv's and play paint ball in camo on.


Then Finally - You are in Texas. If you trespass on someone's property and they shoot you, and you are fortunate enough to survive you are the one going to jail. If you die the DA will probably take the case to the grand jury just as a cya move to protect him/her from the national media. The grand jury will no bill the charges.


The zoo keeper is NOT going to let kids pet a coral snake that snake is a milk snake (red and black friend of Jack, red and yellow kill a fellow)


No you can not catch one of the wild rabbits at the zoo and take it home for a pet. (Actually grabbed a zoo employee told him what the fool was trying to do - she stopped him)


To fellow teachers
No Thomas Jefferson did NOT write the Constitution - He did rewrite the Bible. (yes I was a little ticked off and got a little catty)


AD does not mean after death and it comes before not after the year.


Fossil fuels do not come from land based dinosaurs the lived a few thousand years ago. (And technically Houston isn't even in the Bible Belt -- not like I live in Dallas  >:D )


The full moon and the new moon have the same mass. You still have high and low tides on a new moon.




The founding fathers were not paragons of virtue - the were POLITICIANS* and just as tempted then as they are now - we just have a 24/7 news cycle and yellow tabloids are now blogs. (*I start with the assumption that all politicians are  sociopaths - but I'm a child of the Nixon era  ::)  and very much a cynic)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: alkira6 on May 24, 2013, 06:18:48 PM

That's poison ivy/oak/sumac.  An alarming number of people have no idea what it looks like.

Count me as one.  Poison Ivy sure, leaves of 3, let it be.

Actually the same applies to poison oak.  It has three leaflets.  Poison sumac is trickier and it can get HUGE.  Sumac it by far, the worst of the three.

I have a ton of allergies both food and airborne, but am a rare one in that I don't have any reaction to poison ivy, oak or sumac.

I grew up visiting relatives that have a pond on their property during the summer. That pond is shielded from the road by a huge row of poison sumac. One day, when I was about seven, I, knowing nothing, gathered up the flowers to bring in for the table. My aunt lost her mind.

To this day I've still never had a reaction to poison sumac, and I hope to someday have a row of it. Still think it's one of the prettiest plants.

Congratulations - you have actually found the one thing that I am not allergic to.  Just googled it and I walk through a giant patch of that every time I walk the dogs.  Never had a reaction.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Cami on May 24, 2013, 06:35:06 PM
That no, I'm not going to make an exception for you because you are not special and yes, the rules do apply to you.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Promise on May 24, 2013, 06:40:16 PM
Every semester an email goes out to all faculty, staff and students at my university.  It reads:

Please remember that the squirrels that can be seen on campus are wild animals.  Please do not try to pet, hold, or pick up the squirrels.  Please do not try to feed them by hand.  If you want to provide treats for the squirrels, please scatter food on the lawns.  Squirrels are rodents and can inflict serious bite wounds requiring medical attention.  Squirrels may also carry rabies.

Every year I keep thinking:  these are grown people.  Do we really need to tell them to leave squirrels alone?  :o

What crazy things (that should be common sense) have you had to tell people.

I'm sure this was written about me! The squirrels came to my window every day and I fed them. I didn't pet them, but I did hand-feed them sometimes. And, yes, I know they are wild and generally am known for my overly common sense. However, sometimes a little squirrel that knocks on your window in search of its morning treat is just too hard to resist.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jpcher on May 24, 2013, 06:49:29 PM
Speaking of allergies...I cannot count the number of adults who are convinced they have some mutant cold or flu when what they actually have is seasonal allergies.  They are always so shocked when the doctor confirms it.

Other side of the coin . . . I cannot count the number of adults that tell me I have allergies when I simply have a summer cold.

I've gone in for allergy tests (listening to the "others" who insist) and have always been told "You have a cold. All tests turned out negative."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on May 24, 2013, 06:59:19 PM
Many people grow vegetables and have apple trees at suburban homes.  But I've had a few people stunned to realise you can have other kinds of fruit trees, like peach or pear or cherry trees.  It's like they think those can only grow on a farm.
Their minds are further boggled when you explain that you have to have both male and female trees for them to bear fruit.
MALE and FEMALE TREES???  >:D
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on May 24, 2013, 07:02:46 PM
Every semester an email goes out to all faculty, staff and students at my university.  It reads:

Please remember that the squirrels that can be seen on campus are wild animals.  Please do not try to pet, hold, or pick up the squirrels.  Please do not try to feed them by hand.  If you want to provide treats for the squirrels, please scatter food on the lawns.  Squirrels are rodents and can inflict serious bite wounds requiring medical attention.  Squirrels may also carry rabies.

Every year I keep thinking:  these are grown people.  Do we really need to tell them to leave squirrels alone?  :o

What crazy things (that should be common sense) have you had to tell people.
It's even worse when there's feral cats. Students can't seem to comprehend the concept of FERAL cats. They look just like domesticated cats, of course they want to be scooped up and petted!
Fortunately, the feral cats are not at all reluctant to teach the students the difference.  >:D
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on May 24, 2013, 07:07:34 PM

Speaking of allergies...I cannot count the number of adults who are convinced they have some mutant cold or flu when what they actually have is seasonal allergies.  They are always so shocked when the doctor confirms it.

That would have been me a few years ago.  Growing up, anytime my nose ran and I got the sniffles and a cough, my mother would say I had a cold.  Didn't matter what time of the year it was, it was always a cold, and definitely not allergies.  First time I realized it wasn't a cold was when I mentioned to a friend that I had a cold.  She asked a couple questions and asked "What makes you think that's a cold? It's allergies!" When I realized I got sneezy when the pollen levels were high and was okay indoors and in some areas outdoors, I realized she was right.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Katana_Geldar on May 24, 2013, 07:09:58 PM
Adults who feed the seagulls or just feed any birds. It encourages them to hang around certain places, and be dependent on getting fed. I've seen ibises that will take your lunch out of your hands. Ad some birds starve in the low season when the tourists aren't there to feed them.

The lady in the flat next door to us feeds the lorikeets with seeds. I don't have the heart to tell her that birdseed encourages rats.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Dazi on May 24, 2013, 07:39:54 PM
A young woman I know was the poster child for those weird warning labels on products.

I once caught her trying to use a garment steamer on the clothes she was wearing.   ???

Also had to tell her that you have to cook frozen dinners...she was just thawing them out and eating.   :o  and we had quite a legthy discussion on why fresh fruits and vegetables need to be thoroughly washed before consuming.

Sometimes I wonder how she survived to adulthood.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cass2591 on May 24, 2013, 07:45:42 PM
The lady in the flat next door to us feeds the lorikeets with seeds. I don't have the heart to tell her that birdseed encourages rats.

Why not? It might embarrass her but seriously, wouldn't you want to know this info? Besides, rats will effect you too, won't they?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Pie Fight on May 24, 2013, 08:13:19 PM
Back in college, a guy came in the dorm laundry room and watched his clothes tumbling in the dryer for a minute. Then he turned to me and said, "How do I know when my clothes are dry?" I actually had to tell him that when the dryer stops, you stick your hand inside and feel the clothes. Even if you've never done your own laundry before, you should still know what wet and dry feel like!  ::)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Betelnut on May 24, 2013, 08:27:10 PM
That hurricanes and tornadoes are different things.  One of my co-workers did not know this...
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: greencat on May 24, 2013, 08:29:24 PM
Err, the squirrels on my college campus are also frequently fed by the students.  At this point, a good number of them don't really count as "wild" anymore - they will happily sit on you in order to be presented with food. 

I think adults should know that ten minutes until five on the Friday before Memorial Day weekend (or any other long holiday weekend) is not the best time to try and handle business matters.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Hmmmmm on May 24, 2013, 08:40:44 PM
If you want your house to be 74 degrees, turning your thermostat down to 60 will not cool your house any faster than if you set it to 74/72.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Lady Snowdon on May 24, 2013, 08:42:11 PM
I should not have to explain to people what a zip code is, or what an area code is.  Sadly, I've had to do both.  I've also had to explain time zones to people and what it means for Central time to be an hour behind Eastern time or an hour ahead of Mountain time.

You really shouldn't have to tell people that bills have to be paid, and that, if you take an advance on your paycheck, your next paycheck will be correspondingly smaller.  A former roommate of mine did both - and was absolutely amazed that our phone got cut off due to her failure to pay the bill.  Thankfully I had my cell phone for that...
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Post by: Hmmmmm on May 24, 2013, 08:45:21 PM
Oh, the other that bugs me.Yellow Mustard will not spoil if not refrigerated. Neither will ketchup but the color might change.
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Post by: Slartibartfast on May 24, 2013, 09:35:15 PM
1)  Veal is baby cow . . .

2) . . . Just like lamb is baby sheep.

3)  Yes, people do eat sheep.

(She was horrified - horrified - to realize that people eat cute fluffy sheep.  Not that she was a vegetarian or anything, in fact she ate the veal parmesan just fine - she was just amazed that sheep were edible.)
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Post by: Thipu1 on May 24, 2013, 09:45:56 PM
I'm sorry to break your bubble, Donald but I must.  The 'X Files' aren't documentaries. 
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Post by: CuriousParty on May 24, 2013, 10:03:41 PM


The full moon and the new moon have the same mass. You still have high and low tides on a new moon.





Wait, what?  They think the moon changes mass?  Where...do they think the mass goes? And ... how does it come back?  How do these people understand the moon landing?  Like, we had to schedule it when enough of the moon was there?  I.... Just typing that made my head hurt.
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Post by: Jocelyn on May 24, 2013, 10:03:47 PM
Oh, the other that bugs me.Yellow Mustard will not spoil if not refrigerated. Neither will ketchup but the color might change.
I had to throw out 2 bottles of yellow mustard that had gone to the back of the pantry and were past their expiration dates- both were spoiled. Brown, with a nasty smell.
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Post by: Jocelyn on May 24, 2013, 10:05:10 PM
I had a roommate in college who asked me what the difference between a bull and a steer was.
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Post by: kareng57 on May 24, 2013, 10:34:16 PM
I had a roommate in college who asked me what the difference between a bull and a steer was.

Well, I guess I'm as clueless as your roommate.  I'd always thought that they were interchangeable names for male bovines.
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Post by: twiggy on May 24, 2013, 10:37:25 PM
I had a roommate in college who asked me what the difference between a bull and a steer was.

Well, I guess I'm as clueless as your roommate.  I'd always thought that they were interchangeable names for male bovines.

A bull is intact. A steer is not
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Post by: kareng57 on May 24, 2013, 10:40:51 PM
I had a roommate in college who asked me what the difference between a bull and a steer was.

Well, I guess I'm as clueless as your roommate.  I'd always thought that they were interchangeable names for male bovines.

A bull is intact. A steer is not


Thank you.  However, I stand my assertion that "any adult should know this" is not necessarily valid in this case.  Farm-people ought to realize that what is common-knowledge for rural people is not the same for more urban people.
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Post by: Firecat on May 24, 2013, 11:23:57 PM
I had a roommate in college who asked me what the difference between a bull and a steer was.

Well, I guess I'm as clueless as your roommate.  I'd always thought that they were interchangeable names for male bovines.

A bull is intact. A steer is not


Thank you.  However, I stand my assertion that "any adult should know this" is not necessarily valid in this case.  Farm-people ought to realize that what is common-knowledge for rural people is not the same for more urban people.

Does it make me a horrible person that I have occasionally had fun with this  >:D? I was raised on a farm. My DH was not. Hilarity sometimes ensues.

Like the time, years ago, when I was dating now-DH. We were on our way out to visit my parents (who still live on the farm). Warm day, no working air conditioning in the car, so windows down. So we're driving along, and I look over to realized that DH was pulling some truly amazing "smell BAD" faces. I took a couple of sniffs, said, "Oh, turkey barn" and kept driving.

The look DH gave me when he realized that a) I hadn't consciously noticed it until then and b) I could identify the species producing the...um...waste product...by smell...well, let's just say that expression qualifies as "priceless." But to me, it was such a normal part of the environment growing up, my brain just automatically identified the smell, categorized it as something I didn't need to worry about, and moved on without ever truly getting to the conscious level of awareness.
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Post by: DottyG on May 24, 2013, 11:33:02 PM
I had a roommate in college who asked me what the difference between a bull and a steer was.

Well, I guess I'm as clueless as your roommate.  I'd always thought that they were interchangeable names for male bovines.

A bull is intact. A steer is not


Thank you.  However, I stand my assertion that "any adult should know this" is not necessarily valid in this case.  Farm-people ought to realize that what is common-knowledge for rural people is not the same for more urban people.

I agree with Karen. Some of the things in this thread seem more like just a way to make fun of people that may not have the same background you do, so just don't know the same facts. My bet is that they know things you don't as well.

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Post by: Minmom3 on May 25, 2013, 12:06:15 AM
A bull can be a daddy. 

A steer can: break all the fences at the 4-H farm.  Can then rampage through the neighborhood and eat the roses and scare the dogs and their owners.  Can also jump the hood of a truck at the fair grounds, making numerous dents and kicking in the windshield on the way across.  Pull multiple people face first through the mud on show day, while wearing their last set of whites. 

Be delicious when eaten over the next year! 
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Post by: zyrs on May 25, 2013, 12:17:36 AM
A list of things I and people I know have had to tell people.

1.  that injecting yourself with Drano will not get you high, it will just injure or kill you.

2.  that 'Night of the Living Dead' is not based on a true story.

3.  that a store called 'Peoples' was not owned by the Communist Party.

4.  that 'Blair Witch Project' was just a movie and there is no reward.

5.  that Bill Gates isn't going to send you money.

6.  that your actual income tax owed is based on the total of how much money you make in a year and not on whether you get paid weekly, bi-weekly, bi-monthly, monthly or quarterly.
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Post by: jedikaiti on May 25, 2013, 12:57:17 AM
A list of things I and people I know have had to tell people.

1.  that injecting yourself with Drano will not get you high, it will just injure or kill you.

2.  that 'Night of the Living Dead' is not based on a true story.

3.  that a store called 'Peoples' was not owned by the Communist Party.

4.  that 'Blair Witch Project' was just a movie and there is no reward.

5.  that Bill Gates isn't going to send you money.

6.  that your actual income tax owed is based on the total of how much money you make in a year and not on whether you get paid weekly, bi-weekly, bi-monthly, monthly or quarterly.

I'm pretty sure #1 won't get you high so much as kill you.

I cannot believe the # of people who will pass on an email promising $ for forwarding, or sharing pics of ill/injured kids on FB with a message that FB will donate $1 for each share, etc - or because, "It hasn't been true yet, but you never know!" Actually, yes I do know, and they're bogus and just make me think you're a flaming idiot.
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Post by: Pen^2 on May 25, 2013, 02:31:49 AM
What bugs me the most is when people display their ignorance on social media. I'm talking really painful posts like, "lol so is canada a country or a state coz im not sure lol". If you have time to (badly) type it into Facebook, you have time to type it into Google. It's worse when it drags out over five or ten minutes.

Away from the computer, when people don't have the internet at their fingertips, I'm more forgiving. As long as the ignorance doesn't logically interfere with daily life-type common knowledge (like thinking the moon changes mass), it's understandable. But when the information is sitting right there for you to get, and you want to get it, and all you have to do is spend three seconds twitching your fingers to get it, and you don't go for it? Arrrrgh kill me now what is wrong with you blaaarghh

Here's some I've encountered:
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Post by: MariaE on May 25, 2013, 02:45:27 AM
... That people in Denmark do not speak Dutch but - wait for it - Danish!

... That Denmark is a real country and not a place invented by the bakeries in the US to claim Danish pastry came from (which is nothing like Danish pastry in Denmark, which we call "Bread from Vienna"... But that's a completely different matter ;) )

... That you don't wash a floor by pouring a bucket of water over it, scrubbing it and then leaving it to air-dry  :o
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 25, 2013, 03:51:46 AM
The moon does rotate on its axis.

The phases of the moon are not caused by the shadow of the Earth.

The Earth's distance from the Sun varies by over 3 million miles during a single orbit (many people insist a variation of a few miles would kill us all, therefore Earth is perfect etc).

Seasons are caused by the Earth's tilt on its axis, not varying distance from the Sun.
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Post by: cabbageweevil on May 25, 2013, 04:46:54 AM
The posts re "bovine-informationally-challenged" bring to mind my favourite thing of all time, on those lines. Admittedly, it was written by a kid, so allowing leeway is in order. An (urban) schoolchild was told to write an essay on one kind of bird, and one kind of beast.

"The bird I am going to write about is the owl. The owl cannot see at all in the daytime, and at night it is as blind as a bat.

I do not know much about the owl, so I will go on to the beast I am going to choose. It is the cow. The cow is a mamal, and it is tame. It has six sides, right, left, fore, back, and upper and below. At the back it has a tail on which hangs a brush. With this it sends the flies away, so that they do not fall into the milk. The head is for the purpose of growing horns, and so that the mouth can be somewhere. The horns are to butt with. The mouth is to moo with. Under the cow hangs the milk. It is arranged for milking. When people milk, the milk comes, and there is never any end to the supply. How the cow does it I have not yet realised, but it makes more and more. The man cow is called an ox, but what it eats it eats twice, so that it gets enough. When it is hungry, it moos, and when it says nothing, it is because its inside is full up of grass.

The cow has a good sense of smell; it can be smelt from a long way away. That is the reason for the fresh air in the country."

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Post by: perpetua on May 25, 2013, 05:03:54 AM
The posts re "bovine-informationally-challenged" bring to mind my favourite thing of all time, on those lines. Admittedly, it was written by a kid, so allowing leeway is in order. An (urban) schoolchild was told to write an essay on one kind of bird, and one kind of beast.

"The bird I am going to write about is the owl. The owl cannot see at all in the daytime, and at night it is as blind as a bat.

I do not know much about the owl, so I will go on to the beast I am going to choose. It is the cow. The cow is a mamal, and it is tame. It has six sides, right, left, fore, back, and upper and below. At the back it has a tail on which hangs a brush. With this it sends the flies away, so that they do not fall into the milk. The head is for the purpose of growing horns, and so that the mouth can be somewhere. The horns are to butt with. The mouth is to moo with. Under the cow hangs the milk. It is arranged for milking. When people milk, the milk comes, and there is never any end to the supply. How the cow does it I have not yet realised, but it makes more and more. The man cow is called an ox, but what it eats it eats twice, so that it gets enough. When it is hungry, it moos, and when it says nothing, it is because its inside is full up of grass.

The cow has a good sense of smell; it can be smelt from a long way away. That is the reason for the fresh air in the country."

That's brilliant. That's made my day, that has.
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Post by: Emmy on May 25, 2013, 05:44:44 AM
I have a friend who was raised from birth in the USA and some of the etiquette issues astounded me.  A few examples:

He asked if he should ask a girl he was dating to lose weight.  They had only gone out of a few dates. 

This friend really didn't understand that it wasn't appropriate to invite yourself to other people's homes and parties.  The best example was a wedding I was invited to as a guest of another friend of mine.  My etiquettely challenged friend asked to come along to the wedding, although he wasn't invited, and didn't even know the couple.  Even worse was he really didn't seem grasp it when I told him he wasn't invited and the couple planned and budgeted for a certain number of guests.  He said, "it wouldn't be a big deal to pull up an extra chair and get an extra place setting".  He has also invited other people to events for which he was not the host.  That group of friends played on a volleyball team and often went out to eat after a game.  Another member of the team was getting people together at his house when clueless friend asked the waitress that nobody knew if she wanted to come to other member's house for a party without clearing it with the host.
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Post by: kherbert05 on May 25, 2013, 06:16:59 AM


The full moon and the new moon have the same mass. You still have high and low tides on a new moon.





Wait, what?  They think the moon changes mass?  Where...do they think the mass goes? And ... how does it come back?  How do these people understand the moon landing?  Like, we had to schedule it when enough of the moon was there?  I.... Just typing that made my head hurt.


They think the full moon has more gravity and that it effects kids behavior because the human body is 80% water. It comes from people saying that spring tides are caused by the full moon - but they are caused by the sun and moon  being in a line so their gravitational pull is combined rather than fighting each other.


One of my second graders came to me this year and said, "I know why people thought there were monsters when there was a full moon."


Me "Why"


Kid "There is more light, so people would say oh I can see ok I'm going walk to my friend's house after dark. Then they would get eaten by a regular wolf or cougar. But more people would get eaten on nights of a full moon because more people were outside because they could see more. They didn't have science yet so they made up a story to scare people to so they would stay inside on nights of a full moon.


He came up with this after a unit on folktales. We had made a list of the "good" character animals and the "bad" character animals. Then I asked them why people would have cast the animals in these good or bad character rolls. The kids had figured out that many of the "bad" animals are carnivores and top of the food chain predators  so could kill humans or their livestock.
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Post by: rose red on May 25, 2013, 07:08:07 AM
Speaking of farms and meat, if you eat chicken, you are not a vegetarian.
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Post by: cabbageweevil on May 25, 2013, 07:52:50 AM
That's brilliant. That's made my day, that has.
Thanks. I first came across this one as a child, well over 50 years ago. It's cracked me up, ever since.
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Post by: Yarnspinner on May 25, 2013, 08:05:11 AM
We have a sign in our employee's only restroom that says "Please Flush!"   :o

We have that one and a sign that reads, "Please don't brush your hair over the sink"  in one of the unisex bathrooms and, in the ladies' restroom, we have a sign telling the female employees to wrap up and dispose of sanitary products.  I look at my fellow female workers in horror sometimes as I wonder "Is it YOU"?
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Post by: katycoo on May 25, 2013, 08:08:03 AM
My recent favorite was having to tell my sister, an otherwise intelligent woman, that even though my DD wanted her to beep her horn good bye to her as she dropped her off at school after an appointment, it was inappropriate because SCHOOL WAS IN SESSION!!  Why anyone would think that repeatedly honking your horn when you are parked right in front of classrooms is a good idea, I have no idea but I just about lost it when she said ok and went to do it!

I actually don't see what the big deal here is.  13 years of schooling was never once affected by the odd horn-beeping.
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Post by: Yarnspinner on May 25, 2013, 08:16:41 AM
Library questions from people who have definitely gotten at least through High School:

1) What do you mean, there were no battles of World War II fought right here in New England?  My daughter has to write about a battle that took place in New England and she wants to write it about something more recent that the revolution.

2) (Same woman after I explain that there is a reason that WW II and WWI were known as European wars) "Why?  Where's Europe?  I've never heard ot it."

3) Male patron, also doing his child's homework:  "Quick.  I need a book about the day the U.S. bombed Chernobyl!"

4) And the ever popular:  "I need a book for my son's homework project.  I need photographs of live dinosaurs."  I thought this was just us, but almost every library has a variation on this one, including the people who complain (And I had to field this one) "You have DVDs with video tape/film of John F. Kennedy giving his Inaugural Address/Richard Nixon's farewelladdress/Dwight Eisenhower's Campaign Speech/Martin Luther King's "I Haqve a Dream Speech", but you don't have ANY audio or visual copies of the films of George Washington's inauguration or Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.  What is WRONG with this library?"

Ever try explaining to someone who is older than you are that cameras were not around in the Jurrasic age and were still a new cool technology when Lincoln was speaking and videotape was but a dream?
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Post by: Thipu1 on May 25, 2013, 08:46:49 AM
Oh, the library Situations.  The mind boggles. 

Teaching someone in University how to read a Table of Contents.

Teaching someone else in University how to write a citation for a bibliography.

The ancient Egyptians did not colonize North America.  The existence of Memphis, Tennessee is not proof. 

Hanibal did not take his elephants over the Alps to bring Islam to Spain.

The Nile flows from South to North. 

Ancient Egyptian women did not have beauty secrets that kept them looking like College Cheerleaders into old age.  (That one came from a woman's magazine and they were dead serious about it.)

The Classic questions:

Were the pyramids really built from the bottom up?

How do mummies manage to live and survive?

After 20 years on the Ref desk I've been tempted to write a book titled, 'I'm Forever Bursting
Bubbles'.



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Post by: lady_disdain on May 25, 2013, 08:55:03 AM
After 20 years on the Ref desk I've been tempted to write a book titled, 'I'm Forever Bursting
Bubbles'.

Please do!
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Post by: cwm on May 25, 2013, 09:01:41 AM
I used to work in a fast food/grocery store. We sold bags of peanuts. They came by the box, one box with lots of bags. Clearly labeled on the box AND the bags:

"Warning: May Contain Traces of Peanuts"

No joke.
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Post by: veronaz on May 25, 2013, 09:36:02 AM
I've been amazed at the number of people who think:
Africa is a country
Apartheid just meant it was separate from the US
Cuba is part of Mexico
 ???

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Post by: lady_disdain on May 25, 2013, 09:38:19 AM
I had to enlighten a class mate (final year computer engineering student) what the initial IT meant on a job listing.
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Post by: Thipu1 on May 25, 2013, 09:50:07 AM
There is also a Classic joke known as 'The Librarian's Nightmare'. 

It's a minor spoiler but readers should know that Massapequa is a town near New York on Long Island.

First patron...'I need some books on a food in Mesopotamia'.

Second patron...'My whole class has to do reports on food in Macedonia'.

Third Parton...'I need stuff on food in Massapequa'. 

Fourth patron.  'My kid's got soccer practice so I'm here to pick up some books for her.  She has to make a report on food in, well, Mesa or or Masa something.  You kinda got that before, I guess'.
 :P.  :-\.  ;D
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Post by: Jocelyn on May 25, 2013, 10:01:07 AM
I had a roommate in college who asked me what the difference between a bull and a steer was.

Well, I guess I'm as clueless as your roommate.  I'd always thought that they were interchangeable names for male bovines.

A bull is intact. A steer is not


Thank you.  However, I stand my assertion that "any adult should know this" is not necessarily valid in this case.  Farm-people ought to realize that what is common-knowledge for rural people is not the same for more urban people.
It was the context of 'I've always wondered this'. Apparently in years of watching Westerns, she had become aware that there was a difference, but it had never occurred to her to open a dictionary and determine the difference for herself.
And yes, it may be knowledge that those of us who grew up around farming got at a younger age, but I've learned all sorts of information about city living. And it does amaze me the number of people who seem to believe that meat is manufactured in the butcher department of supermarkets.  There's more to know about how food arrives on your plate than the name of the chef. :)
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Post by: siamesecat2965 on May 25, 2013, 10:07:41 AM
Count me in as being bovine-challenged. of course I was only 6 or so. One summer we went to WV on vacation and to county or maybe state fair. wandering through, looking at the livestock, and saw some, um, bulls which clearly were, given the size of their parts. Apparently I asked, very loudly, "Daddy, what's that between its legs?" cracking up a group of 4-H kids nearby. Hey, I grew up in the suburbs, and had no clue what they were.

And back to the topic at hand, on a cruise with my friend who is smart, but lacks common sense.  Came back to the cabin to find a charger with batteries in the one outlet, but oozing something. not wanting to start a fire, i unplugged it. later I said something to her, and it came out she was trying to recharge REGULAR allkeline batteries, not the rechargeable kind. she thought you could just recharge any.
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Post by: tjika on May 25, 2013, 10:31:29 AM
I work for a medical billing company. I've lost count of the times I've had to tell people that yes the dentist is expensive, after they've had multiple fillings or crowns. Always get an estimate.

Read your insurance policy so you know what it covers. Don't assume.

When you receive an invoice and it says 'page 1 of 2' at the top, you need to pay page 2 as well.

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Post by: nutraxfornerves on May 25, 2013, 10:57:51 AM
That cotton is not synthetic--it comes from a plant.

That silk is not synthetic--it comes from moth cocoons.
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Post by: Garden Goblin on May 25, 2013, 11:04:49 AM
You can ease off the gas pedal to slow down.  You don't need to hit the breaks everytime you realize you are going more than 1mph over the speed limit.
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Post by: Maggie on May 25, 2013, 11:23:59 AM
If you want your house to be 74 degrees, turning your thermostat down to 60 will not cool your house any faster than if you set it to 74/72.

I have tried for years to explain this to my children.  I finally gave up!
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Post by: Betelnut on May 25, 2013, 11:39:30 AM
You can ease off the gas pedal to slow down.  You don't need to hit the breaks everytime you realize you are going more than 1mph over the speed limit.

Thank you GG!  My drivers education teacher drilled this into our heads--sometimes shouting, "Lift your foot off the gas to slow down!  Lift your foot off the gas to slow down!"

So many people seem to never have learned this!
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Post by: camlan on May 25, 2013, 11:51:48 AM
A list of things I and people I know have had to tell people.

[snip]

6.  that your actual income tax owed is based on the total of how much money you make in a year and not on whether you get paid weekly, bi-weekly, bi-monthly, monthly or quarterly.

At a former workplace, we were paid weekly. The company refused to offer direct deposit. So every week, I had to trek to the bank to deposit my paycheck. Frankly, it was a chore. I mean, I liked getting paid and the money was nice, but having to get to the bank weekly was just annoying.

So the owners decided to go to every-other-week paychecks. I was happy. One little annoying chore that was going to be cut in half.

But one co-worker was convinced that everyone would lose hundreds of dollars a year in increased taxes--they would take so much more out of every paycheck. She went around and told everyone, and scared everyone so much about this, that even when the owners did a presentation and showed the entire staff that the total amount per year in taxes would remain exactly the same--everyone but me was so frightened that they decided to stay with the weekly paychecks.

I don't know what bothered me more--that this one woman was so fixated on this one wrong idea, or that the rest of the employees were unable to see that she was wrong and unable to research the issue for themselves and unwilling to believe the accountant the owners brought in (That Woman convinced everyone the accountant was paid off by the owners to lie to us).
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Post by: bo on May 25, 2013, 12:24:10 PM
When we lived in Montana there was only one area code. We came from NJ where we were used to dialing an area code for any number.

At DH's job in Montana, a coworker was trying to call back a customer from Idaho, but the number was not working. The coworker got mad thinking the customer gave him the wrong number. DH offered to make the phone call if coworker would buy him lunch. DH made the phone call no problem and coworker was impressed. All DH did was dial the number using the area code ;D
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Post by: BB-VA on May 25, 2013, 12:38:50 PM
After 20 years on the Ref desk I've been tempted to write a book titled, 'I'm Forever Bursting
Bubbles'.

Please do!

Very large POD parked right here.  I would LOVE to read that book (and the title is awesome)!
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Post by: BB-VA on May 25, 2013, 12:41:12 PM
I've been amazed at the number of people who think:
Africa is a country
Apartheid just meant it was separate from the US
Cuba is part of Mexico
 ???

I think the "Africa" thing is mostly due to old movies - you know, where they would show the map at the beginning with "Africa" and no countries marked.   

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Post by: MommyPenguin on May 25, 2013, 12:46:24 PM
When we lived in Montana there was only one area code. We came from NJ where we were used to dialing an area code for any number.

At DH's job in Montana, a coworker was trying to call back a customer from Idaho, but the number was not working. The coworker got mad thinking the customer gave him the wrong number. DH offered to make the phone call if coworker would buy him lunch. DH made the phone call no problem and coworker was impressed. All DH did was dial the number using the area code ;D

Yes!  We had so much trouble with this when we were stationed in the Midwest, where there was basically just one area code.  Our area code, which we'd brought with us because we use VOIP, was, say, 472.  The local area code was 437.  So even when we'd input our area code into things, people would see "472" and mentally toss it aside as another "437" and not bother to dial it.  Even the military base's medical center, which would leave medical phone messages on the answering machine of whoever had 437-ournumber.  It was very frustrating.  Of all places, you'd think a military base would be used to 10-digit numbers using the area code because of transplants using their cell phone numbers for everything, but apparently that 472/437 thing just killed them.  Thankfully our new area has multiple area codes and none of them are anywhere close to "472" so ours will stand out and people should notice it, and you need to dial area code anyway.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: BB-VA on May 25, 2013, 12:46:53 PM
Country girl weighing in on the bull vs steer issue:  I cut people a little slack on that because I can remember when I didn't know the difference.  Of course, I was in elementary school then...

OTOH, the one that bugs me is the belief that only boy cows have horns.  Not true, both genders have horns (or the potential for them, unless they have been dehorned or are the polled breeds).  I have been in arguments with people about that. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: mechtilde on May 25, 2013, 12:53:43 PM
I was once told that the monastic ruins at Jarrow was bombed by the Vikings. By someone from Jarrow.

I had to explain that although they could be a little on the destructive side, the Vikings did not have access to high explosive...
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Barney girl on May 25, 2013, 01:06:56 PM
Country girl weighing in on the bull vs steer issue:  I cut people a little slack on that because I can remember when I didn't know the difference.  Of course, I was in elementary school then...

OTOH, the one that bugs me is the belief that only boy cows have horns.  Not true, both genders have horns (or the potential for them, unless they have been dehorned or are the polled breeds).  I have been in arguments with people about that.

I had similar last year. I was walking with a colleague who is not a towny and is someone I would generally consider fairly knowledgeable about agricultural matters, but lives in an area with few sheep. She commented on the number of rams in the fields as she assumed that only male sheep have horns.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: littlelauraj on May 25, 2013, 01:11:51 PM
I once had a couple of women (middle-aged) who couldn't quite grasp that Alaska still has high and low tides even in the summer when the sun is out so many hours of the day.  I gave up explaining when one of them actually said, "Yeah, I don't get it."
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Post by: sleepy59 on May 25, 2013, 01:22:54 PM
I had to explain to a friend in our second year of university (both of us were mature students, I was 31 and she was 40) how to use the index of a book to see if it had any information about a topic.  She had got through the first year of our degree by reading books cover to cover (slowly) to see if they were any use!

She was the same person I spent an hour explaining that 50%, 1/2 and 0.5 were all the same as were 25%, 1/4 and 0.25, etc!!!  She was training to be a teacher.
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Post by: Pen^2 on May 25, 2013, 01:41:41 PM
She was the same person I spent an hour explaining that 50%, 1/2 and 0.5 were all the same as were 25%, 1/4 and 0.25, etc!!!  She was training to be a teacher.

That makes me feel ill...

I knew one teacher in training who didn't know there had been two world wars. Another didn't know that Earth and other planets orbited the Sun (he wasn't one of those Earth-centric universe people, he just had never thought about it at all).
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Post by: greencat on May 25, 2013, 01:50:10 PM
Oo!  The percentages thing reminded me of these.

The employee that my friend has working for him at his shop is really, really, really smart.  He's an engineering student and I know he's good at math.  It absolutely killed me when he attempted to tell my friend that letting people stack their 10% reward discounts (so either giving 30% off or 27% off depending on whether you were adding or multiplying) on the same purchase was the same as giving them the 10% discount on three separate smaller purchases.  He had even somehow made a spreadsheet.

I was able to give him a simple-math round-number example to get him straightened out, fortunately, but I couldn't believe he had that kind of basic misunderstanding of how percentages worked.  He later told me that he couldn't believe he had it that wrong either.  Then again, I did have to explain to my friend that it was better to give a percentage off instead of a flat dollar amount, because giving a flat dollar amount off could easily mean giving things away or at the very least wiping out the sometimes-slim profit margin on a sale, but that giving a percentage off would never wipe out all the profit on a sale.

I also had to explain to my friend that he should be counting the cash drawer after close every night, because otherwise he was going to lose money due to error or theft.  It took several incidents where we had to do forensics on the day's receipts after the drawer didn't get counted for a day or two to get him in the habit of actually doing it between every close and open.  I don't know if that's necessarily something every adult should know, but any adult who has decided to go into retail sales should know it for sure.
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Post by: Hmmmmm on May 25, 2013, 02:00:43 PM
Oh, the other that bugs me.Yellow Mustard will not spoil if not refrigerated. Neither will ketchup but the color might change.
I had to throw out 2 bottles of yellow mustard that had gone to the back of the pantry and were past their expiration dates- both were spoiled. Brown, with a nasty smell.
Past the expiration date I think is key here.
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Post by: scotcat60 on May 25, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
You shouldn't eat leftovers that you left out on the counter all night.

Actually I've done this, and taken no harm. After all, fridges haven't been around for ever, and people survived when they did this.

However, I would not leave leftovers out in very hot weather. And in the depths of an English winter, with a largely unheated kitchen, food does not go off overnight.
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Post by: ThistleBird on May 25, 2013, 02:18:33 PM
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OTOH, the one that bugs me is the belief that only boy cows have horns.  Not true, both genders have horns (or the potential for them, unless they have been dehorned or are the polled breeds).  I have been in arguments with people about that. 

Absolutely. Same goes for goats. It's not such a big deal if you have to explain it once but what's bad is when people stick to their "facts".

On a completed unrelated note, my father, an American who lives & works in France and visits the U.S. regularly, once had an American ask him, "Do they really still speak French in France? Like, on the street?" (It seems somehow she thought English was becoming the international language so hard that all other languages were mere cultural survivals...)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 25, 2013, 03:08:08 PM
Country girl weighing in on the bull vs steer issue:  I cut people a little slack on that because I can remember when I didn't know the difference.  Of course, I was in elementary school then...

OTOH, the one that bugs me is the belief that only boy cows have horns.  Not true, both genders have horns (or the potential for them, unless they have been dehorned or are the polled breeds).  I have been in arguments with people about that.

Yes, I've met a few people who think only male African elephants have tusks.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on May 25, 2013, 04:53:34 PM
Oh, the other that bugs me.Yellow Mustard will not spoil if not refrigerated. Neither will ketchup but the color might change.
I had to throw out 2 bottles of yellow mustard that had gone to the back of the pantry and were past their expiration dates- both were spoiled. Brown, with a nasty smell.
Past the expiration date I think is key here.
Yes, but the expiration date is simply the date by which the manufacturer estimates that the product will spoil. The point is, that even though unopened (thus uncontaminated by use), yellow mustard stored at room temp will, indeed, spoil eventually. Perhaps the OP uses a lot of mustard, so that she uses it up before that point, but for someone who uses very little mustard, it wouldn't be safe to conclude that yellow mustard does not spoil, ever.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: PastryGoddess on May 25, 2013, 06:01:06 PM
You can ease off the gas pedal to slow down.  You don't need to hit the breaks everytime you realize you are going more than 1mph over the speed limit.
PREACH!
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Post by: *inviteseller on May 25, 2013, 06:05:21 PM
There is a reason there is a button marked 'popcorn' on the microwave.  My house stinks so bad right now...why the 17 yr old thought it needed 5 minutes is beyond me!!!!!  And this is NOT the first time she has made it!
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on May 25, 2013, 06:10:17 PM
You can ease off the gas pedal to slow down.  You don't need to hit the breaks everytime you realize you are going more than 1mph over the speed limit.
PREACH!

This is why continually get bus sick, the bus driver pumps the breaks and rides the bus like a cowboy.
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Post by: Thipu1 on May 25, 2013, 06:26:22 PM
I know of a few history boners.

One was a teacher visiting Woodstock, Vermont.  A local guide explained that certain markings on the chimneys of older houses in the village indicated that they were stops on the Underground Railroad. (for those don't know American history, the Underground Railroad was a system of safe houses to take escaped slaves from the Confederacy to safety and freedom in Canada)

'Oh, wow!  They had a subway back then?'   

 the other was a University student.  The class was discussing the situation in post WWII Germany.  The Professor mentioned that the city of Berlin was divided. The guy was dubious.  'How could they divide a city? Did they build a wall?'  (Sniff and grin)

Well, yes.  Yes they did.
     
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Editeer on May 25, 2013, 06:34:01 PM
After you've mopped the floor and poured the dirty water down the drain, you need to rinse the bucket and the mop so that they will be clean for next time.
My husband still doesn't really get this.
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Post by: greencat on May 25, 2013, 06:48:58 PM
My ex boyfriend never understood why stacking his dirty dishes in the sink with the paper napkins piled in between them was not acceptable.  In case you've never done that yourself, and don't understand why I nearly blew a gasket every time he did it, it's because first, the napkins would stick to whatever was on the plate and be extraordinarily difficult to remove, even when run through the dishwasher, and second, the dissolved paper messed up both the sink drain and the dishwasher.   >:(

Also, he didn't understand why turning the lights off wasn't an acceptable substitute for mopping the floors before guests came over.   :o
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on May 25, 2013, 07:05:08 PM
When I was about 7, we had a visiting missionary staying in our house. After church on Sunday, my father looked out the front of our house, through a vacant lot, to the back porch of a neighbor's home, and observed a skunk standing on the porch. He ran to the phone and warned them not to go out their back door, and then, because it was a weekend and we didn't have 24/7 police in our little town, began brainstorming about who he knew who had a gun and could come over and and dispatch the skunk.
The missionary began following him around saying, 'But it's one of God's little creatures! Why would you want to harm it?' I remember Dad giving Mom a look like, 'Keep this fool away from me,'; it was the moment in my life that I realized that even highly esteemed adults could be complete idiots about other things. While it was indeed one of God's little creatures, it was most likely one of God's little rabid creatures, because skunks just don't walk that far into town in broad daylight. At any rate, Dad wasn't about to take a chance on a child getting bitten, and  he'd lived most of his life on a ranch where you dealt with issues yourself.
Which reminds me of the limerick:
 
There once was a man from the city,
Who met what he thought was a kitty
He said 'Nice little cat!
And gave it a pat,
They buried his clothes out of pity.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Nikko-chan on May 25, 2013, 07:19:38 PM
Wonder what the 'kitty' was.

At any rate, these stories you all have are cracking me up!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jedikaiti on May 25, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
After 20 years on the Ref desk I've been tempted to write a book titled, 'I'm Forever Bursting
Bubbles'.

Please do!

Yes, please!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Slartibartfast on May 25, 2013, 07:42:54 PM
Wonder what the 'kitty' was.

At any rate, these stories you all have are cracking me up!

I assume a skunk  :P
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Nikko-chan on May 25, 2013, 07:52:06 PM
Wonder what the 'kitty' was.

At any rate, these stories you all have are cracking me up!

I assume a skunk  :P

The last line made me assume vicious predator cat. so when "they buried his clothes out of pity' i thought it meant the fellow was dead!
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Post by: Thipu1 on May 25, 2013, 07:58:23 PM
Wonder what the 'kitty' was.

At any rate, these stories you all have are cracking me up!

I assume a skunk  :P

The last line made me assume vicious predator cat. so when "they buried his clothes out of pity' i
thought it meant the fellow was dead!

I just thought it was a skunk and the man's clothes were buried out of pity because there was no way to get rid of the smell. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: CrazyDaffodilLady on May 25, 2013, 08:25:30 PM
I mentioned at work that I was having a salad for lunch because I was watching my weight.  Male Coworker (supposedly a genius) nearly screamed at me not to do it because lettuce was one of the most fattening foods in existence.  I asked why he thought that, and he said, “Look around.  When you see a fat person eating, what are they eating?  Lettuce!”

I didn’t bother arguing with him because it would not have changed his mind.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on May 25, 2013, 08:32:52 PM
Wonder what the 'kitty' was.

At any rate, these stories you all have are cracking me up!
I tried to attach a picture of a skunk, but it wouldn't attach. ;)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Nikko-chan on May 25, 2013, 08:47:46 PM
reminds me of those pepe le pew cartoons where he chases after the cat, thinking she's a skunk. this was just the reverse!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Amara on May 25, 2013, 09:00:18 PM
I stopped in to buy some eggs today from the woman at the local feed store who sells them to favored customers. She had just gotten back from two weeks' vacation with her mother in Maine and had a wonderful time. While she was gone, her husband had done a wonderful job, doing all the chores on the ranch. Perfect!

Except that he didn't wash any dishes. For two weeks. Pots, pans, plates, silverware were all piled in the sinks and on the counters and all manner of disgusting things, including dead (who presumably died happy) flies were encrusted. It took her one and a half days to clean it up. She was going to get mad at him, but because he did everything else she didn't. She did, however, ask him what he did when he ran out of cooking and eating utensils. He ate out, of course.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Dr. F. on May 25, 2013, 09:01:38 PM
I mentioned at work that I was having a salad for lunch because I was watching my weight.  Male Coworker (supposedly a genius) nearly screamed at me not to do it because lettuce was one of the most fattening foods in existence.  I asked why he thought that, and he said, “Look around.  When you see a fat person eating, what are they eating?  Lettuce!”

I didn’t bother arguing with him because it would not have changed his mind.

Yeah, cause and effect are NOT the same thing! Even grad students have a hard time with that one.
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Post by: JenJay on May 25, 2013, 09:11:38 PM
When my husband was at military police school he met a guy from New York who, upon learning that DH was from Oregon, asked "Wow, really? Have you ever had any run-ins with Indians?" He thought it was dangerous to go out into rural areas!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: lemonfloorwax on May 25, 2013, 09:30:01 PM
Yes, we do, in fact, vote for Senators.
No, you can not see the Eiffel Tower from everywhere in France.
No, Pennsylvania Dutch do not speak Dutch, they speak German.
No, the Amish do not have to get driver's licenses.
Yes, bob cats can be female. (How did she think they reproduced?  :o)
No, moth balls are not made from dead moths.
No, waxed paper and parchment (baking) paper are not interchangeable.
No, guinea pigs are not from New Guinea.
No, ink jet printers do not print white. You can not stick a black piece of paper in the printer and expect it to "print with the white ink".

All of these were from the same woman. I honestly have no idea how she survived to adulthood.
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on May 25, 2013, 09:33:35 PM
I stopped in to buy some eggs today from the woman at the local feed store who sells them to favored customers. She had just gotten back from two weeks' vacation with her mother in Maine and had a wonderful time. While she was gone, her husband had done a wonderful job, doing all the chores on the ranch. Perfect!

Except that he didn't wash any dishes. For two weeks. Pots, pans, plates, silverware were all piled in the sinks and on the counters and all manner of disgusting things, including dead (who presumably died happy) flies were encrusted. It took her one and a half days to clean it up. She was going to get mad at him, but because he did everything else she didn't. She did, however, ask him what he did when he ran out of cooking and eating utensils. He ate out, of course.

That's one fast way of taking all the joy out of a vacation,
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Post by: Nikko-chan on May 25, 2013, 09:35:57 PM
Yes, we do, in fact, vote for Senators.
No, you can not see the Eiffel Tower from everywhere in France.
No, Pennsylvania Dutch do not speak Dutch, they speak German.
No, the Amish do not have to get driver's licenses.
Yes, bob cats can be female. (How did she think they reproduced?  :o)
No, moth balls are not made from dead moths.
No, waxed paper and parchment (baking) paper are not interchangeable.
No, guinea pigs are not from New Guinea.
No, ink jet printers do not print white. You can not stick a black piece of paper in the printer and expect it to "print with the white ink".

All of these were from the same woman. I honestly have no idea how she survived to adulthood.

The bobcat one could have easily been because if a male bobcat reproduces with a female domesticated cat (in the story that happened with my neighbors part bobcat heidi-- don't let the name fool you, he was a male) the bobcat will chase off the female, presumably after the kittens are of weaning age.

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Post by: Twik on May 25, 2013, 10:12:11 PM
My father did not know the Sun is a star.

Worse, I was unable to ever convince him otherwise.
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Post by: Fliss on May 25, 2013, 10:14:13 PM
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Frankly the above advice about feeding them by scattering food on the lawn is just as bad as someone trying to pet them. Squirrels fed by humans will: 1) Increase beyond the natural capacity of the location to support; 2) Become accustomed and therefore unafraid of humans; and 3) Become aggressive. Feeding squirrels, whether by hand or by scattering food is a very bad idea.


Err . . . .  not entirely true. At least not in Western Australia. I dunno, maybe the climate makes them different here or something.

See, about 100 or so years ago, Indian squirrels were released at Perth zoo. They've never actually really left that area since. True, they HAVE been found along the shore-line to the south, but that's about it. And no, contrary to popular belief, they aren't being predated upon to a great extent. The escarpment where I live is only 30k's from the zoo, so well within reach, but they've never turned up.

The sqirrels at the zoo aren't fed  by staff, btw. And they don't mug you for food either. I've met seagulls who're worse. It's a little bizzare.

So, yes, weird stuff. Like I said, maybe they like the beach too much and are just hanging out on Cottesloe beach at the Indian Tea House and surfing.
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Post by: kareng57 on May 25, 2013, 10:22:39 PM
Yes, we do, in fact, vote for Senators.
No, you can not see the Eiffel Tower from everywhere in France.
No, Pennsylvania Dutch do not speak Dutch, they speak German.
No, the Amish do not have to get driver's licenses.
Yes, bob cats can be female. (How did she think they reproduced?  :o)
No, moth balls are not made from dead moths.
No, waxed paper and parchment (baking) paper are not interchangeable.
No, guinea pigs are not from New Guinea.
No, ink jet printers do not print white. You can not stick a black piece of paper in the printer and expect it to "print with the white ink".

All of these were from the same woman. I honestly have no idea how she survived to adulthood.


I disagree with #1.  In some countries, such as Canada, senators are appointed rather than elected.  I don't think that this should be considered a "silly question" from visitors to the US.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Twik on May 25, 2013, 10:24:44 PM
Yes, bob cats can be female. (How did she think they reproduced?  :o)


Well, I can see the confusion. They're "Bob" cats. The females would be "Robertas", of course.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Ereine on May 25, 2013, 11:03:57 PM
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Frankly the above advice about feeding them by scattering food on the lawn is just as bad as someone trying to pet them. Squirrels fed by humans will: 1) Increase beyond the natural capacity of the location to support; 2) Become accustomed and therefore unafraid of humans; and 3) Become aggressive. Feeding squirrels, whether by hand or by scattering food is a very bad idea.


Err . . . .  not entirely true. At least not in Western Australia. I dunno, maybe the climate makes them different here or something.

See, about 100 or so years ago, Indian squirrels were released at Perth zoo. They've never actually really left that area since. True, they HAVE been found along the shore-line to the south, but that's about it. And no, contrary to popular belief, they aren't being predated upon to a great extent. The escarpment where I live is only 30k's from the zoo, so well within reach, but they've never turned up.

The sqirrels at the zoo aren't fed  by staff, btw. And they don't mug you for food either. I've met seagulls who're worse. It's a little bizzare.

So, yes, weird stuff. Like I said, maybe they like the beach too much and are just hanging out on Cottesloe beach at the Indian Tea House and surfing.

From what I could find (information brochures produced by officials, I'm obviously not Australian so maybe they aren't trustworthy?) they would be the same as any other squirrel (that is, potentially aggressive and invasive pest especially with the lack of suitable predators) but the climate isn't favorable to them and squirrels that are found outside the zoo area are removed, like a small colony was removed in 2002. Apparently they get their food from stealing from zoo animals so in a way the zoo feeds them as they have to provide more food.
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Post by: SheltieMom on May 25, 2013, 11:06:38 PM
That if a month with 31 days has three Fridays, three Saturdays and three Sundays, it will not be 800+ years before that happens again. It will be no more than 11 years, depending on when the leap years fall.

Slightly off-topic, this website has a calendar that shows the calendars for the years from 1911 to 2016. They have other calendars, including a 10,000 year calendar. Kind of fun to play with:
http://calendarhome.com/tyc/
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Post by: Ereine on May 25, 2013, 11:20:03 PM
I've met a surprising number of people who were confused by taxes. They can be complicated and I've gotten very confused by them but the basic idea of how income taxing works here is pretty simple. In January you will receive a "tax card" that has the percentage you have to pay tax (and the percentage you have to pay if you go over a limit) for your main job and the percentage you have to pay for your possible side job, so it might for example be 15 % for the main job and 35 % for the side job. So people complain about how difficult it is to work a second job in Finland because it gets taxed so heavily but they don't understand that the tax office doesn't care at all about where you get the money, it's just that most people only have one job so their percentage is calculated for that (it's an estimate based on the previous year's earnings and after the tax year it's checked and balanced) but you can get it adjusted so that you pay the same percentage for both jobs for example, or you pay a little more on your main job and a little less on your side job but there no law that says that side jobs are always taxed 35 %, that's just default to make percentage for the main job as low as possible.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Library Dragon on May 26, 2013, 12:38:13 AM
Emmy's story reminded me of when my co-worker was called by a colleague in the States (we're in Canada).  The colleague's timezone was two hours before ours.  He called at noon our time and asked my co-worker "Is now a good time to talk?"  My co-worker said "Actually, I was just about to leave for lunch."  Colleague laughed, said "Good one", and proceeded to talk poor co-worker's ear off. 

I have another one - I was visiting Orlando, Florida a few years ago and wanted to send a postcard to my parents in British Columbia.  I didn't know how much postage I'd need, so I asked the drug store clerk.  "How much is it to mail a postcard to Canada?"  "Canada?  Whereabouts in the States is that?"  "It's not a state - it's the country to the north."  Blank look.  I went somewhere else.

I had a letter I was mailing returned the next day to my post office box the next day. I took it to the clerk to ask why. He looked at and asked, "Is this international or domestic?"

'It's going to Ohio.'

"Right.  International or domestic?"

Yes, I had to explain that Ohio is a state. 

~~~

At one time we had a house in Tacoma, Washington.  When DH retired from the Army we had to go deal with the property.  Many of MIL's friends argued that we were going to DC and there was no such state as Washington. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Pen^2 on May 26, 2013, 01:33:32 AM
I mentioned at work that I was having a salad for lunch because I was watching my weight.  Male Coworker (supposedly a genius) nearly screamed at me not to do it because lettuce was one of the most fattening foods in existence.  I asked why he thought that, and he said, “Look around.  When you see a fat person eating, what are they eating?  Lettuce!”

I didn’t bother arguing with him because it would not have changed his mind.

Ugh I have wasted far too much of my life trying to explain basic logic to people like this. It bugs me the most when the person has a good set of general knowledge and acts (or professes to be) quite "smart". Ad hoc ergo propter hoc is a very basic and simple logical fallacy. If you don't understand it, then you do not think very logically at all and are not smart, sorry.

I've met people who fall into the appeal to nature fallacy a lot more, though. I once had to take a woman out of a meeting to slap some sense into her or at least get her to shut up: during the meeting, there was a brief presentation on raising money for TB or something in various poor African countries. She had said, confidently and pleasantly, "but they live naturally, so they don't get sick! I'm not giving money to such an obvious scam!" Everyone else was horrified, mouths agape, and once I had dragged her out it took me a long time to explain that actually, a lot of "natural" things are worse, such as childbirth (20-25% mortality pre-modern medicine), tumours (slow and painful death), a great deal of genetic diseases (you would just die without modern health), and health in general (spectacles, sanitation, immunisations, etc.) Plus education and so on. People who think that "natural = automatically better" and that modern advances and technology are by default evil and bad make me feel actually nauseous.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cabbageweevil on May 26, 2013, 01:54:34 AM
At one time we had a house in Tacoma, Washington.  When DH retired from the Army we had to go deal with the property.  Many of MIL's friends argued that we were going to DC and there was no such state as Washington.

I hope I won't be thought too cheeky for observing, as a non-American, that some US place-naming does seem rather to invite the muddling-up of things -- in the light of how people tend to be easily confused.  I can kind-of sympathise with non-geographically-minded folk getting befuddled over the capital of the US being the city of Washington, in the District of Columbia; whereas there's also a state of Washington, some couple-of-thousand-plus miles away -- through which the Columbia River runs !

Likewise with the thing heard of quite often -- including from a PP on this thread -- of people getting bemused about the state of New Mexico, and thinking that the independent nation of Mexico is being referred to. Most of us can be pretty dense about something or other: with the way that a fair number of people tend towards mental blocks / confusion, about place-names, one could feel that those who originally named the locations concerned, might have taken thought about that; and tried to avoid the confusion-potential.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: BB-VA on May 26, 2013, 05:34:46 AM
I mentioned at work that I was having a salad for lunch because I was watching my weight.  Male Coworker (supposedly a genius) nearly screamed at me not to do it because lettuce was one of the most fattening foods in existence.  I asked why he thought that, and he said, “Look around.  When you see a fat person eating, what are they eating?  Lettuce!”

I didn’t bother arguing with him because it would not have changed his mind.

Ugh I have wasted far too much of my life trying to explain basic logic to people like this. It bugs me the most when the person has a good set of general knowledge and acts (or professes to be) quite "smart". Ad hoc ergo propter hoc is a very basic and simple logical fallacy. If you don't understand it, then you do not think very logically at all and are not smart, sorry.

I've met people who fall into the appeal to nature fallacy a lot more, though. I once had to take a woman out of a meeting to slap some sense into her or at least get her to shut up: during the meeting, there was a brief presentation on raising money for TB or something in various poor African countries. She had said, confidently and pleasantly, "but they live naturally, so they don't get sick! I'm not giving money to such an obvious scam!" Everyone else was horrified, mouths agape, and once I had dragged her out it took me a long time to explain that actually, a lot of "natural" things are worse, such as childbirth (20-25% mortality pre-modern medicine), tumours (slow and painful death), a great deal of genetic diseases (you would just die without modern health), and health in general (spectacles, sanitation, immunisations, etc.) Plus education and so on. People who think that "natural = automatically better" and that modern advances and technology are by default evil and bad make me feel actually nauseous.

My stock comment to those who have the "all natural = good for you" mindset is "Snake venom is all-natural too."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 26, 2013, 05:41:16 AM

My stock comment to those who have the "all natural = good for you" mindset is "Snake venom is all-natural too."

Mine usual example is arsenic :)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Sara Crewe on May 26, 2013, 05:58:22 AM
That once something is frozen, it has to be left in the freezer to stay frozen.

Seriously, this was a 45 year old man who put his ice pop in the department refrigerator (as opposed to the ice box) because he thought that once it was frozen, it would stay that way.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Margo on May 26, 2013, 06:47:18 AM

Yes, we do, in fact, vote for Senators.
No, you can not see the Eiffel Tower from everywhere in France.
No, Pennsylvania Dutch do not speak Dutch, they speak German.
No, the Amish do not have to get driver's licenses.
Yes, bob cats can be female. (How did she think they reproduced?  :o)
No, moth balls are not made from dead moths.
No, waxed paper and parchment (baking) paper are not interchangeable.
No, guinea pigs are not from New Guinea.
No, ink jet printers do not print white. You can not stick a black piece of paper in the printer and expect it to "print with the white ink".

All of these were from the same woman. I honestly have no idea how she survived to adulthood.
I think that the Pennsylvania dutch and Amish drivers are also very location specific. It's not unreasonable to think that people driving horse drawn vehicles might require some type of permit to do so.
Same with baking paper and waxed paper. After all, baking paper and baking parchment are interchangable (although here, at least, they are slightly different products). I would see that at something it would be reasonable for a person to chekc, if they haven't used both, but I wouldn;t be surprised if someone asked.

The printer and Eiffel towers ones are weird, though!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: BB-VA on May 26, 2013, 06:54:39 AM
I think the Eiffel Tower effect probably comes from movies - any time the location is France, the Eiffel Tower seems to be visible.  Just as in any movie/TV show set in Washington, DC has a view of the Capitol from any windowed office. 

Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Margo on May 26, 2013, 07:05:41 AM
wait, you mean you *can't* see the Capitol from every office in Washington DC?  ;) And there was I thinking they must carefully build all of the offices with windows on one side only, to ensure that effect.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Katana_Geldar on May 26, 2013, 07:07:51 AM
Just like every house in Sydney has Harbour views? ;)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kherbert05 on May 26, 2013, 08:09:49 AM

My stock comment to those who have the "all natural = good for you" mindset is "Snake venom is all-natural too."

Mine usual example is arsenic :)


I use asbestos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos) as my example - blows people's minds.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cicero on May 26, 2013, 08:43:26 AM
When my husband was at military police school he met a guy from New York who, upon learning that DH was from Oregon, asked "Wow, really? Have you ever had any run-ins with Indians?" He thought it was dangerous to go out into rural areas!
over my lifetime there have been people who asked us (upon learning we live in israel) if we have camels and live in tents.

yeah, not so much. this is the same land where the biblical stories took place, but no, we aren't living in the biblical era.

Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Hmmmmm on May 26, 2013, 09:09:28 AM
There is a reason there is a button marked 'popcorn' on the microwave.  My house stinks so bad right now...why the 17 yr old thought it needed 5 minutes is beyond me!!!!!  And this is NOT the first time she has made it!

I'm the exact opposit. I'm wish they would remove the popcorn button. I don't know how many times someone at the office has put in a personal size popcorn bag, hit that button, walked off and come back upset that there popcorn is burned and everyone us mad at vehemently about the burnt popcorn smell. Alison different brands have different times needed and popcorn can quickly start to burn.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: stkatie00 on May 26, 2013, 09:27:21 AM
That no, boy/girl twins can NOT be identical. The standard question after learning my twins are boy/girl is, are they identical? I always reply nicely that, no, they aren't, but I've had a few people ask me if I'm sure!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jaelle on May 26, 2013, 09:47:29 AM
When my husband was at military police school he met a guy from New York who, upon learning that DH was from Oregon, asked "Wow, really? Have you ever had any run-ins with Indians?" He thought it was dangerous to go out into rural areas!
over my lifetime there have been people who asked us (upon learning we live in israel) if we have camels and live in tents.

yeah, not so much. this is the same land where the biblical stories took place, but no, we aren't living in the biblical era.

I once interviewed a trio of teenage girls from Alaska who were doing an exchange program at one of our New York schools. They happened to be members of one of the indigenous groups there, but that was mainly happenstance.

I asked them what they'd like people to know about themselves and where they lived. They loved that.

"We like to go to the movies and shopping and out with friends just like you. Yes, we have movies. Yes, we have malls. Yes, we have restaurants."

"Yes, it gets cold, sometimes really cold. But it gets warm too. We do go outside. We're not huddled around a campfire all year long."

"WE DON'T LIVE IN IGLOOS!" :D

A few years after that, I nearly choked when my MIL happily told my sons "about Alaska, where the Eskimos live in igloos."  ::)  I truly don't think she believed me when I told her that was just a bit out of date.
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Post by: *inviteseller on May 26, 2013, 10:20:57 AM
To the poster who asked what was wrong with beeping the horn at the school.  The driveway is literally right at the front of the school..driveway, sidewalk, classrooms and the office.  My sister also would not just give a toot...she repeatedly does long hits of the horn (pet peeve of mine) as more DD yells again! again!  (she's 6, I'll forgive her).  I have had to tell her not to blast the radio as she pulls in too!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: siamesecat2965 on May 26, 2013, 10:31:14 AM

My stock comment to those who have the "all natural = good for you" mindset is "Snake venom is all-natural too."

Mine usual example is arsenic :)

So is asbestos, as its mined from the ground! I worked for a law firm that handled asbestos litigation, and while I was surprised to learn this fact, I didn't go around spouting off about it.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Shalamar on May 26, 2013, 10:39:04 AM
Some folks, upon learning that we were from Canada, asked if we had any problems with polar bears.   :)

(Mind you, I HAVE had a close encounter with a moose on a quiet residential street in the 'burbs.)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Thipu1 on May 26, 2013, 11:21:45 AM
Just like every house in Sydney has Harbour views? ;)

And every hotel room in Orlando FL should have a view of the ocean.  ;)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: camlan on May 26, 2013, 11:30:47 AM
At one time we had a house in Tacoma, Washington.  When DH retired from the Army we had to go deal with the property.  Many of MIL's friends argued that we were going to DC and there was no such state as Washington.

I hope I won't be thought too cheeky for observing, as a non-American, that some US place-naming does seem rather to invite the muddling-up of things -- in the light of how people tend to be easily confused.  I can kind-of sympathise with non-geographically-minded folk getting befuddled over the capital of the US being the city of Washington, in the District of Columbia; whereas there's also a state of Washington, some couple-of-thousand-plus miles away -- through which the Columbia River runs !

Likewise with the thing heard of quite often -- including from a PP on this thread -- of people getting bemused about the state of New Mexico, and thinking that the independent nation of Mexico is being referred to. Most of us can be pretty dense about something or other: with the way that a fair number of people tend towards mental blocks / confusion, about place-names, one could feel that those who originally named the locations concerned, might have taken thought about that; and tried to avoid the confusion-potential.

To further confuse the Washington issue, there are about 26 other cities in the US named Washington--quite a few of the original 13 states have a Washington. Plus there's at least one in Canada.

Washington, DC, wasn't declared the US capital until 1790, and it wasn't named Washington until a little later. Many cities had been named Washington by then, in honor of George Washington. Washington, NH was the first, in 1776.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Yarnspinner on May 26, 2013, 11:41:22 AM
The James Cameron film Titanic is a fictionalized account of a TRUE event and not a documentary.  We do not have a biography on the life of that famous artist Jack Dawson because he never existed.  We do not have any photos he drew of a young woman naked.  He was a made up character played by Leonardo DiCaprio....

On the other hand, I remember the very sweet but horrifyingly befuddled elderly woman who tugged at my sleeve after seeing the Malcolm McDowell time travel movie Time After Time in which H.G. Wells battles Jack the Ripper in 1979 California.  "Did that really happen?"  "No, Ma'am, it's a made up story."  "But H.G. Wells was a real person."  "Yes, Ma'am, but this movie just speculates on what would happen if such a thing as time travel existed."  "But was Jack the Ripper really  in California?"

Yikes.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Cami on May 26, 2013, 11:48:15 AM
That no, boy/girl twins can NOT be identical. The standard question after learning my twins are boy/girl is, are they identical? I always reply nicely that, no, they aren't, but I've had a few people ask me if I'm sure!
  I just had to tell someone that on Thursday. I was relating a story from my childhood with two identical twin girls. One of the girls has a name that is often male, but just as often female. The story itself was about a situation involving their dresses for a school event. It involved a description of ruffles, hem length, and Mary Jane shoes, PLUS the critical factor that these were  IDENTICAL twins who pulled a switcheroo. At the end of it, this person looked at me in confusion and said, "But how come people didn't notice the boy wasn't a boy any more?"

Head meet desk. I said, "Like I said they were IDENTICAL twins. Girls. Hence, the dresses, etc."
Her: "But you said one of them has the [gender neutral name]."
Me: "Yes. And the owner of that name was a girl, hence the dresses, etc. But the main point is that they were IDENTICAL twins. You don't have identical twins if you have a boy and a girl."
Her: "Sure, you do. They're identical except for their sex."
Me: head meet desk again. "Then they're NOT identical. Identical means the same in every way."
Her: "Really? I always thought that identical meant almost the same except for one or two differences."
Me: "No. That would be SIMILAR."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Reika on May 26, 2013, 12:30:11 PM
I had to explain to a male coworker, one who is married and has a kid, that women don't have prostates, therefore we won't cover a Prostate Specific Antigen test for a woman. Trying to be as delicate as possible, I had to explain that the prostate is part of the equipment that makes a male a male. Feeling increasingly desperate because he was still clueless, I said "It's just like a guy won't have a cervix."

When he asked me what a cervix was, I told him to ask his wife. My manager overheard my side of the conversation with her jaw open because she couldn't believe I had to explain the difference between boy bits and girl bits to a guy around my age (36ish).
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Library Dragon on May 26, 2013, 12:47:15 PM
At one time we had a house in Tacoma, Washington.  When DH retired from the Army we had to go deal with the property.  Many of MIL's friends argued that we were going to DC and there was no such state as Washington.

I hope I won't be thought too cheeky for observing, as a non-American, that some US place-naming does seem rather to invite the muddling-up of things -- in the light of how people tend to be easily confused.  I can kind-of sympathise with non-geographically-minded folk getting befuddled over the capital of the US being the city of Washington, in the District of Columbia; whereas there's also a state of Washington, some couple-of-thousand-plus miles away -- through which the Columbia River runs !

Likewise with the thing heard of quite often -- including from a PP on this thread -- of people getting bemused about the state of New Mexico, and thinking that the independent nation of Mexico is being referred to. Most of us can be pretty dense about something or other: with the way that a fair number of people tend towards mental blocks / confusion, about place-names, one could feel that those who originally named the locations concerned, might have taken thought about that; and tried to avoid the confusion-potential.

No, not cheeky at all. 

I wouldn't expect a non-US resident/citizen to get it.  I don't know if it still is, but even when my adult sons were in 5th grade they were expected to memorize all the state names and major territories, and of course Washington, DC.  So, to have adults who grew up in the US to argue that there is no place as Washington state and that we were confused about where we were flying and where we owned our home was aggravating. 

DH and I joke that if a US state has a city called Decatur there must be a city called Athens near by.  Georgia, Tennessee, and Alabama have the cities near each other.  When we moved to our state many of our household goods were sent to the wrong state because it is the more well known of the cities. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Pen^2 on May 26, 2013, 12:52:17 PM
I had to explain to a male coworker, one who is married and has a kid, that women don't have prostates, therefore we won't cover a Prostate Specific Antigen test for a woman. Trying to be as delicate as possible, I had to explain that the prostate is part of the equipment that makes a male a male. Feeling increasingly desperate because he was still clueless, I said "It's just like a guy won't have a cervix."

When he asked me what a cervix was, I told him to ask his wife. My manager overheard my side of the conversation with her jaw open because she couldn't believe I had to explain the difference between boy bits and girl bits to a guy around my age (36ish).

I misread that as, "women don't have potatoes"  :P

A friend of mine was in her first year of med school. The topic of the tutorial happened to be human puberty or something similar, and the tutor was kind of rushing through the obvious stuff that everyone knows to get to the more important details that they would need to know as doctors. But then one guy raised his hand and interrupted...

"Hang on, did you say that during menstruation, blood comes out constantly? For days?"
"Yes, that's pretty much the biggest symptom of menstruation. Anyway-"
"No, no, I mean, constantly? Come on!"
"What do you mean? Of course it's constant; they can't just turn it off and on for convenience anymore than you can turn your heart off when you feel like it!"

The guy's jaw hit the ground. Apparently he thought it was just bloody urine. He had no idea that it occurred outside bathroom visits. I don't know if he finished med school. I've heard worse misconceptions, but not from med students.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Cami on May 26, 2013, 12:55:44 PM
I had to explain to a male coworker, one who is married and has a kid, that women don't have prostates, therefore we won't cover a Prostate Specific Antigen test for a woman. Trying to be as delicate as possible, I had to explain that the prostate is part of the equipment that makes a male a male. Feeling increasingly desperate because he was still clueless, I said "It's just like a guy won't have a cervix."

When he asked me what a cervix was, I told him to ask his wife. My manager overheard my side of the conversation with her jaw open because she couldn't believe I had to explain the difference between boy bits and girl bits to a guy around my age (36ish).

I misread that as, "women don't have potatoes"  :P

A friend of mine was in her first year of med school. The topic of the tutorial happened to be human puberty or something similar, and the tutor was kind of rushing through the obvious stuff that everyone knows to get to the more important details that they would need to know as doctors. But then one guy raised his hand and interrupted...

"Hang on, did you say that during menstruation, blood comes out constantly? For days?"
"Yes, that's pretty much the biggest symptom of menstruation. Anyway-"
"No, no, I mean, constantly? Come on!"
"What do you mean? Of course it's constant; they can't just turn it off and on for convenience anymore than you can turn your heart off when you feel like it!"

The guy's jaw hit the ground. Apparently he thought it was just bloody urine. He had no idea that it occurred outside bathroom visits. I don't know if he finished med school. I've heard worse misconceptions, but not from med students.
I knew a guy who thought that too.  It was in college. He and his girlfriend were having a huge fight over playing scrabble since she did not enjoy scrabble while having her period. He kept insisting that she was being mean and lying since everyone knows that women only bleed when they go to the bathroom. It was a GREAT shock to discover to him that women are not that lucky.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: finecabernet on May 26, 2013, 12:58:27 PM
Confession: I didn't know "lefty loosey, righty tighty" until I saw it referenced on "Gilmore Girls." Got laughed at plenty (good naturally of course) at work when my ignorance was revealed!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: PeterM on May 26, 2013, 01:50:16 PM
I wouldn't expect a non-US resident/citizen to get it.  I don't know if it still is, but even when my adult sons were in 5th grade they were expected to memorize all the state names and major territories, and of course Washington, DC.  So, to have adults who grew up in the US to argue that there is no place as Washington state and that we were confused about where we were flying and where we owned our home was aggravating. 

It's the arguing that annoys and offends me. Ignorance is excusable, at least for things that don't impact your life on a regular basis. Everyone's ignorant about something. I'm not sure I knew that both male and female sheep can have horns, for example, but I'm not going to argue the point without at least looking into it first. People whose instincts run to "I can't possibly be wrong" annoy the snot out of me.

I had a student intern like that once. He was from Cape Verde and hadn't had a whole lot of schooling before coming to the US, so it was only natural that he was ignorant of a lot of US and world history. He actively resisted learning better, though. I had a long debate with him in which I was absolutely unable to convince him that the Korean War and Vietnam War were not only different conflicts separated in time, but they also took place in completely different countries. He kept insisting otherwise, even after I broke out the encyclopedia.

Ignorance is excusable. Willful ignorance needs to be beaten to death with the Shovel of Knowledge.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Library Dragon on May 26, 2013, 01:57:59 PM
Ignorance is excusable. Willful ignorance needs to be beaten to death with the Shovel of Knowledge.

Oh, this is good!  I'm stealing it NOW!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Reika on May 26, 2013, 02:12:24 PM
Ignorance is excusable. Willful ignorance needs to be beaten to death with the Shovel of Knowledge.

Oh, this is good!  I'm stealing it NOW!

That is an awesome line. If I knew it wouldn't get me in trouble, I'd post this at work.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cabbageweevil on May 26, 2013, 02:13:47 PM
At one time we had a house in Tacoma, Washington.  When DH retired from the Army we had to go deal with the property.  Many of MIL's friends argued that we were going to DC and there was no such state as Washington.

I hope I won't be thought too cheeky for observing, as a non-American, that some US place-naming does seem rather to invite the muddling-up of things -- in the light of how people tend to be easily confused.  I can kind-of sympathise with non-geographically-minded folk getting befuddled over the capital of the US being the city of Washington, in the District of Columbia; whereas there's also a state of Washington, some couple-of-thousand-plus miles away -- through which the Columbia River runs !

Likewise with the thing heard of quite often -- including from a PP on this thread -- of people getting bemused about the state of New Mexico, and thinking that the independent nation of Mexico is being referred to. Most of us can be pretty dense about something or other: with the way that a fair number of people tend towards mental blocks / confusion, about place-names, one could feel that those who originally named the locations concerned, might have taken thought about that; and tried to avoid the confusion-potential.

To further confuse the Washington issue, there are about 26 other cities in the US named Washington--quite a few of the original 13 states have a Washington. Plus there's at least one in Canada.

Washington, DC, wasn't declared the US capital until 1790, and it wasn't named Washington until a little later. Many cities had been named Washington by then, in honor of George Washington. Washington, NH was the first, in 1776.

We've got a Washington in England, too -- a medium-sized-to-big town near Newcastle-upon-Tyne. Probably a nice place in its way; but not one of the chief jewels in the British tourist crown.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on May 26, 2013, 02:37:05 PM
I hope I won't be thought too cheeky for observing, as a non-American, that some US place-naming does seem rather to invite the muddling-up of things -- 
 
Non-Americans get a pass.  ;D Just as I hope we get a pass in England about the geographical units (see, I don't even know what they're called these days!) that end in -sex or -shire.
But Americans of a certain age can remember that certain teacher (mine was Miss Faulkner) who lined us up and drilled us in the names of states and their capitals. We had to be able to recite them, give the capital when she called out the state, and just about every which way you could drill children on the material. While I doubt I could do it these days, at least I remember that in a fair proportion of the states, the capital is NOT the largest or most famous city. If you gave me a map, I could easily label each state- I could even do a fair job of drawing the map from scratch. For those of us who had Miss Faulkner and her sisters, it's as amazing that people can't do this as if they were saying they don't know the multiplication tables, or they can't alphabetize words.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Outdoor Girl on May 26, 2013, 03:14:12 PM
As a Canadian, we had to memorize the provinces and territories and their capitols.  But it is a heck of lot easier to remember 10 provinces and 2 (now 3) territories than 50 states and 2 (I think) territories.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: starry diadem on May 26, 2013, 03:45:03 PM

We've got a Washington in England, too -- a medium-sized-to-big town near Newcastle-upon-Tyne. Probably a nice place in its way; but not one of the chief jewels in the British tourist crown.

The home of one of George Washington's forebears, I believe
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Maggie on May 26, 2013, 03:47:36 PM
That no, boy/girl twins can NOT be identical. The standard question after learning my twins are boy/girl is, are they identical? I always reply nicely that, no, they aren't, but I've had a few people ask me if I'm sure!
  I just had to tell someone that on Thursday. I was relating a story from my childhood with two identical twin girls. One of the girls has a name that is often male, but just as often female. The story itself was about a situation involving their dresses for a school event. It involved a description of ruffles, hem length, and Mary Jane shoes, PLUS the critical factor that these were  IDENTICAL twins who pulled a switcheroo. At the end of it, this person looked at me in confusion and said, "But how come people didn't notice the boy wasn't a boy any more?"

Head meet desk. I said, "Like I said they were IDENTICAL twins. Girls. Hence, the dresses, etc."
Her: "But you said one of them has the [gender neutral name]."
Me: "Yes. And the owner of that name was a girl, hence the dresses, etc. But the main point is that they were IDENTICAL twins. You don't have identical twins if you have a boy and a girl."
Her: "Sure, you do. They're identical except for their sex."
Me: head meet desk again. "Then they're NOT identical. Identical means the same in every way."
Her: "Really? I always thought that identical meant almost the same except for one or two differences."
Me: "No. That would be SIMILAR."

My ex used to answer that question with you know I thought they were identical but then I changed their diapers and guess what they are not!  Not e-hell approved I am sure but still funny!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Emmy on May 26, 2013, 04:04:24 PM
I had to explain to a male coworker, one who is married and has a kid, that women don't have prostates, therefore we won't cover a Prostate Specific Antigen test for a woman. Trying to be as delicate as possible, I had to explain that the prostate is part of the equipment that makes a male a male. Feeling increasingly desperate because he was still clueless, I said "It's just like a guy won't have a cervix."

When he asked me what a cervix was, I told him to ask his wife. My manager overheard my side of the conversation with her jaw open because she couldn't believe I had to explain the difference between boy bits and girl bits to a guy around my age (36ish).

I misread that as, "women don't have potatoes"  :P

A friend of mine was in her first year of med school. The topic of the tutorial happened to be human puberty or something similar, and the tutor was kind of rushing through the obvious stuff that everyone knows to get to the more important details that they would need to know as doctors. But then one guy raised his hand and interrupted...

"Hang on, did you say that during menstruation, blood comes out constantly? For days?"
"Yes, that's pretty much the biggest symptom of menstruation. Anyway-"
"No, no, I mean, constantly? Come on!"
"What do you mean? Of course it's constant; they can't just turn it off and on for convenience anymore than you can turn your heart off when you feel like it!"

The guy's jaw hit the ground. Apparently he thought it was just bloody urine. He had no idea that it occurred outside bathroom visits. I don't know if he finished med school. I've heard worse misconceptions, but not from med students.
I knew a guy who thought that too.  It was in college. He and his girlfriend were having a huge fight over playing scrabble since she did not enjoy scrabble while having her period. He kept insisting that she was being mean and lying since everyone knows that women only bleed when they go to the bathroom. It was a GREAT shock to discover to him that women are not that lucky.

If that were the case, why would there be a need for maxi pads and tampons?  Although I guess somebody who is that clueless really doesn't think about those things.  I hope he didn't finish med school because I wouldn't want a doctor that ignorant of the human body.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: crankycat on May 26, 2013, 05:52:49 PM
Male cats (and dogs or other mamals really), like their human counterparts, have nipples.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: NyaChan on May 26, 2013, 06:09:05 PM
I mentioned at work that I was having a salad for lunch because I was watching my weight.  Male Coworker (supposedly a genius) nearly screamed at me not to do it because lettuce was one of the most fattening foods in existence.  I asked why he thought that, and he said, “Look around.  When you see a fat person eating, what are they eating?  Lettuce!”

I didn’t bother arguing with him because it would not have changed his mind.

Ugh I have wasted far too much of my life trying to explain basic logic to people like this. It bugs me the most when the person has a good set of general knowledge and acts (or professes to be) quite "smart". Ad hoc ergo propter hoc is a very basic and simple logical fallacy. If you don't understand it, then you do not think very logically at all and are not smart, sorry.

I've met people who fall into the appeal to nature fallacy a lot more, though. I once had to take a woman out of a meeting to slap some sense into her or at least get her to shut up: during the meeting, there was a brief presentation on raising money for TB or something in various poor African countries. She had said, confidently and pleasantly, "but they live naturally, so they don't get sick! I'm not giving money to such an obvious scam!" Everyone else was horrified, mouths agape, and once I had dragged her out it took me a long time to explain that actually, a lot of "natural" things are worse, such as childbirth (20-25% mortality pre-modern medicine), tumours (slow and painful death), a great deal of genetic diseases (you would just die without modern health), and health in general (spectacles, sanitation, immunisations, etc.) Plus education and so on. People who think that "natural = automatically better" and that modern advances and technology are by default evil and bad make me feel actually nauseous.

Isn't it post hoc ergo propter hoc?  Though I suppose ad hoc works too, maybe better lol.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Cami on May 26, 2013, 06:10:19 PM
I had to explain to a male coworker, one who is married and has a kid, that women don't have prostates, therefore we won't cover a Prostate Specific Antigen test for a woman. Trying to be as delicate as possible, I had to explain that the prostate is part of the equipment that makes a male a male. Feeling increasingly desperate because he was still clueless, I said "It's just like a guy won't have a cervix."

When he asked me what a cervix was, I told him to ask his wife. My manager overheard my side of the conversation with her jaw open because she couldn't believe I had to explain the difference between boy bits and girl bits to a guy around my age (36ish).

I misread that as, "women don't have potatoes"  :P

A friend of mine was in her first year of med school. The topic of the tutorial happened to be human puberty or something similar, and the tutor was kind of rushing through the obvious stuff that everyone knows to get to the more important details that they would need to know as doctors. But then one guy raised his hand and interrupted...

"Hang on, did you say that during menstruation, blood comes out constantly? For days?"
"Yes, that's pretty much the biggest symptom of menstruation. Anyway-"
"No, no, I mean, constantly? Come on!"
"What do you mean? Of course it's constant; they can't just turn it off and on for convenience anymore than you can turn your heart off when you feel like it!"

The guy's jaw hit the ground. Apparently he thought it was just bloody urine. He had no idea that it occurred outside bathroom visits. I don't know if he finished med school. I've heard worse misconceptions, but not from med students.
I knew a guy who thought that too.  It was in college. He and his girlfriend were having a huge fight over playing scrabble since she did not enjoy scrabble while having her period. He kept insisting that she was being mean and lying since everyone knows that women only bleed when they go to the bathroom. It was a GREAT shock to discover to him that women are not that lucky.

If that were the case, why would there be a need for maxi pads and tampons?  Although I guess somebody who is that clueless really doesn't think about those things. 
Actually, that point was included in the discussion and his defense was indeed an indignant, "Well, I never thought about that! Why would i?" Oh I don't know, because that reality would contradict a belief you have and a reasonably intelligent and/or curious person would want to get to the bottom of a contradiction.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Katana_Geldar on May 26, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
No it doesn't, ad hoc means something else entirely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hoc

And where do babies come from according to those guys? The bum? I wonder how he would react if the blood got on him, wouldn't take much of a demonstration.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: artk2002 on May 26, 2013, 06:36:52 PM
The correct phrase is: post hoc ergo propter hoc. "After this therefore because of this." It's easy enough to confuse with ad hoc since that, too, can be a logical fallacy. The later is best translated as "making up an explanation on the spot."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kherbert05 on May 26, 2013, 06:41:58 PM
The Texas Rangers (law enforcement not baseball team) and the Mounties are both real.


I have a 2nd grader that wanted to do a report about lions - but we were researching the Amazon Rainforest. So I did a search for "big cats Amazon Rainforest" so she could do another big cat which led to her having a fit. Lion, tigers are in every jungle and they aren't cats. With this one - she is so stubborn I can see her an adult still insisting that lions aren't cats.


My 2nd graders can sing the nifty fifty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALhEGiA5k5I). Unfortunately such memorization is considered low level learning and we are discouraged from having the kids memorize facts. Even math facts we are supposed to build their knowledge through hands on activities. There is a point were they should either stop skip counting and know that 5 x6 = 30 or be able to skip count so quick you don't know they are doing it. I feel like some facts are basic knowledge that you need to perform higher level thinking. Yes you can look up facts, but if you don't have some basic knowledge you can fall for so many scams/conspiracy theorists.


My HS history book was written so that Korea, Kennedy's election and assassination, Vietnam, the Civil Rights movement, Nixon, Watergate, and Ford were crammed  in about 6 pages with lots of pictures. That confused me. Considering Reagan was in his first term - I guess it was amazing that any of that was in my Textbook.


I have another one that confuses a good number of adults. Ford was never elected Vice President or President. To date he is the only person to be appointed VP (after Agnew resigned)  then become President Under the 25 amendment (after Nixon Resigned).


Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Browyn on May 26, 2013, 06:42:50 PM
As a Canadian, we had to memorize the provinces and territories and their capitols.  But it is a heck of lot easier to remember 10 provinces and 2 (now 3) territories than 50 states and 2 (I think) territories.

There are 4 US terriorities.  US Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, Guam, & American Samoa.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: NyaChan on May 26, 2013, 06:43:15 PM
Interesting, I'd heard of ad hoc ergo propter hoc defined as:  "with this therefore because of this"  though post hoc ergo.... was the one I'd heard used more frequently and in the way artk defines.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Thipu1 on May 26, 2013, 06:51:13 PM
Ignorance is excusable. Willful ignorance needs to be beaten to death with the Shovel of Knowledge.

Oh, this is good!  I'm stealing it NOW!

Amen!  If I was still working, this would go over my desk in the office. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Betelnut on May 26, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
As a Canadian, we had to memorize the provinces and territories and their capitols.  But it is a heck of lot easier to remember 10 provinces and 2 (now 3) territories than 50 states and 2 (I think) territories.

There are 4 US terriorities.  US Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, Guam, & American Samoa.

The Northern Mariana Islands are also a territory.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: ladyknight1 on May 26, 2013, 07:38:51 PM
I have never been able to convince my father that Tylenol or any medication is classified as a drug. He doesn't believe it and I got tired of arguing about it.

I have had to tell people many times that Florida does get cool in the winter months, into the 20's sometimes, so it is a good idea to bring a variety of clothing when you come on vacation in January. Also, May through October is the rainy season, so it tends to rain every afternoon. Many people expect Florida to be picture postcard sunny, hot, and blue skies 365 days a year.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Shalamar on May 26, 2013, 07:44:16 PM
While working in Pennsylvania, I told my supervisor that I wouldn't be at the office the following week, because I'd be in Regina on a course.   She looked puzzled and said "... Regina?"   I said "It's in Saskatchewan."   "... Saskatchewan?"

I was a bit gobsmacked.   I probably couldn't pick out, say, Montana on a map - but at least I've HEARD of it!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Library Dragon on May 26, 2013, 08:08:51 PM
Quote
I have a 2nd grader that wanted to do a report about lions - but we were researching the Amazon Rainforest. So I did a search for "big cats Amazon Rainforest" so she could do another big cat which led to her having a fit. Lion, tigers are in every jungle and they aren't cats. With this one - she is so stubborn I can see her an adult still insisting that lions aren't cats.

Breaking through the presumptions can be so hard. Every year I taught 6th graders how to do a research paper. I told them they could do it on anything in or having to do with Africa.  First was getting them to understand that Africa is a continent not a country.  We would have heated discussions when I asked if the following topics could be the paper's topic:

1. The Pyramids
2. Diamonds
3. Penguins

I had lots of arguments over the latter.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: violinp on May 26, 2013, 08:10:52 PM
- Yes, the show I like is scary and gory. Yes, I like to watch it. No, really; I like being scared. Really. You don't have to like what I like. Promise. I'm not gonna make you watch something that will upset you. That's not something I like to do. Yes, it's really okay for you to watch something nice and fluffy.

Sheesh. And what makes it even worse is that the person then asked me to record Bones for her. Er...yeah. That's not gory and slightly creepy at all. ::) *headdesk* Granted, it's nowhere as bad as Hannibal (the show I like), but I had many DNW images from that show.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: snowdragon on May 26, 2013, 08:15:09 PM
Quote
I have a 2nd grader that wanted to do a report about lions - but we were researching the Amazon Rainforest. So I did a search for "big cats Amazon Rainforest" so she could do another big cat which led to her having a fit. Lion, tigers are in every jungle and they aren't cats. With this one - she is so stubborn I can see her an adult still insisting that lions aren't cats.

Breaking through the presumptions can be so hard. Every year I taught 6th graders how to do a research paper. I told them they could do it on anything in or having to do with Africa.  First was getting them to understand that Africa is a continent not a country.  We would have heated discussions when I asked if the following topics could be the paper's topic:

1. The Pyramids
2. Diamonds
3. Penguins

I had lots of arguments over the latter.


That's because there is a African Penguin  http://www.penguins.cl/african-penguins.htm 

 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: PastryGoddess on May 26, 2013, 08:36:50 PM
Quote
I have a 2nd grader that wanted to do a report about lions - but we were researching the Amazon Rainforest. So I did a search for "big cats Amazon Rainforest" so she could do another big cat which led to her having a fit. Lion, tigers are in every jungle and they aren't cats. With this one - she is so stubborn I can see her an adult still insisting that lions aren't cats.

Breaking through the presumptions can be so hard. Every year I taught 6th graders how to do a research paper. I told them they could do it on anything in or having to do with Africa.  First was getting them to understand that Africa is a continent not a country.  We would have heated discussions when I asked if the following topics could be the paper's topic:

1. The Pyramids
2. Diamonds
3. Penguins

I had lots of arguments over the latter.


That's because there is a African Penguin  http://www.penguins.cl/african-penguins.htm 

 
I thought she was saying that the kids thought that penguins couldn't be in Africa because it's not cold enough
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: lemonfloorwax on May 26, 2013, 09:04:14 PM
Yes, we do, in fact, vote for Senators.
No, you can not see the Eiffel Tower from everywhere in France.
No, Pennsylvania Dutch do not speak Dutch, they speak German.
No, the Amish do not have to get driver's licenses.
Yes, bob cats can be female. (How did she think they reproduced?  :o)
No, moth balls are not made from dead moths.
No, waxed paper and parchment (baking) paper are not interchangeable.
No, guinea pigs are not from New Guinea.
No, ink jet printers do not print white. You can not stick a black piece of paper in the printer and expect it to "print with the white ink".

All of these were from the same woman. I honestly have no idea how she survived to adulthood.


I disagree with #1.  In some countries, such as Canada, senators are appointed rather than elected.  I don't think that this should be considered a "silly question" from visitors to the US.

No, this was from a woman who was born, raised, and educated in the United States.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Library Dragon on May 26, 2013, 09:15:19 PM
Quote
I have a 2nd grader that wanted to do a report about lions - but we were researching the Amazon Rainforest. So I did a search for "big cats Amazon Rainforest" so she could do another big cat which led to her having a fit. Lion, tigers are in every jungle and they aren't cats. With this one - she is so stubborn I can see her an adult still insisting that lions aren't cats.

Breaking through the presumptions can be so hard. Every year I taught 6th graders how to do a research paper. I told them they could do it on anything in or having to do with Africa.  First was getting them to understand that Africa is a continent not a country.  We would have heated discussions when I asked if the following topics could be the paper's topic:

1. The Pyramids
2. Diamonds
3. Penguins

I had lots of arguments over the latter.


That's because there is a African Penguin  http://www.penguins.cl/african-penguins.htm 

 
I thought she was saying that the kids thought that penguins couldn't be in Africa because it's not cold enough

Yes. All items in the list are related to Africa and would be acceptable topics.  I sometimes had to pull out maps to show them South Africa's location and why it was logical that there would be penguins.

I've had adults tell me that Egypt wasn't part of the African continent.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Outdoor Girl on May 26, 2013, 09:19:30 PM
As a Canadian, we had to memorize the provinces and territories and their capitols.  But it is a heck of lot easier to remember 10 provinces and 2 (now 3) territories than 50 states and 2 (I think) territories.

There are 4 US terriorities.  US Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, Guam, & American Samoa.

The Northern Mariana Islands are also a territory.

Thanks!  I learned something today.   :)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: rain on May 26, 2013, 09:22:51 PM
I just saw this today on a gas pump


This gasoline is not for use in airplanes


 :o
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Nikko-chan on May 26, 2013, 09:25:27 PM
I saw one on facebook. don't know if it's real or not but....

"Goodbye America, Hello New York!"

Someone replied:

"New York is in America."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: nutraxfornerves on May 26, 2013, 09:44:52 PM
There are a lot of anecdotes about "Goodbye, God, I'm going to X." I'd take "Goodbye America, Hello New York!" as a statement that New York City is very different from other parts of the US. As in "New York is a great place to visit, but it is not 'America'." (Something I've heard more than once.)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Nikko-chan on May 26, 2013, 09:48:25 PM
There are a lot of anecdotes about "Goodbye, God, I'm going to X." I'd take "Goodbye America, Hello New York!" as a statement that New York City is very different from other parts of the US. As in "New York is a great place to visit, but it is not 'America'." (Something I've heard more than once.)

Let's hope it was meant that way!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Bluenomi on May 26, 2013, 10:15:55 PM
That no, boy/girl twins can NOT be identical. The standard question after learning my twins are boy/girl is, are they identical? I always reply nicely that, no, they aren't, but I've had a few people ask me if I'm sure!

I've had to explain this to a few people recently. One seriously thought that gender was determinded during mid pregnancy and you could have itentical twins of difference genders because the egg split before gender was determinded.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Asharah on May 26, 2013, 11:31:30 PM
Had my niece, who's in 8th grade ask if there were any rivers in Africa. I asked if she ever heard of the Nile.  ::)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: StarFaerie on May 27, 2013, 01:14:10 AM
Quote
I have a 2nd grader that wanted to do a report about lions - but we were researching the Amazon Rainforest. So I did a search for "big cats Amazon Rainforest" so she could do another big cat which led to her having a fit. Lion, tigers are in every jungle and they aren't cats. With this one - she is so stubborn I can see her an adult still insisting that lions aren't cats.

Breaking through the presumptions can be so hard. Every year I taught 6th graders how to do a research paper. I told them they could do it on anything in or having to do with Africa.  First was getting them to understand that Africa is a continent not a country.  We would have heated discussions when I asked if the following topics could be the paper's topic:

1. The Pyramids
2. Diamonds
3. Penguins

I had lots of arguments over the latter.


That's because there is a African Penguin  http://www.penguins.cl/african-penguins.htm 

 
I thought she was saying that the kids thought that penguins couldn't be in Africa because it's not cold enough

Yes. All items in the list are related to Africa and would be acceptable topics.  I sometimes had to pull out maps to show them South Africa's location and why it was logical that there would be penguins.

I've had adults tell me that Egypt wasn't part of the African continent.

Penguin placement isn't always logical
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galapagos_Penguin
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: MariaE on May 27, 2013, 01:42:47 AM
I really wish notalwaysworking accepted comments on their stories.. there's so much wrong with this one: http://notalwaysworking.com/euro-out-of-your-mind
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 27, 2013, 03:16:54 AM
Yes, there really is a Sheriff of Nottingham.

Yes, there really is a large bird in Australia that will (rarely) attack by using the large sharp claw it has on each foot.  No, I have not been "watching too much Jurassic Park".  It is called a cassowary.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: StarFaerie on May 27, 2013, 03:18:24 AM
I really wish notalwaysworking accepted comments on their stories.. there's so much wrong with this one: http://notalwaysworking.com/euro-out-of-your-mind

Oh, yes that one. I was yelling at my screen about that one earlier today.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cabbageweevil on May 27, 2013, 03:26:46 AM
Yes, there really is a Sheriff of Nottingham.
The term "Sheriff" originated with us Brits, did it not?  Originally "shire reeve" -- a royal official responsible for keeping the peace throughout a shire (county). The word and the idea taken up in the USA, of course without the "royal" bit.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: MariaE on May 27, 2013, 03:36:28 AM
I really wish notalwaysworking accepted comments on their stories.. there's so much wrong with this one: http://notalwaysworking.com/euro-out-of-your-mind

Oh, yes that one. I was yelling at my screen about that one earlier today.

... and the boss wasn't even the most clueless one. Guess it's a great example of "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: menley on May 27, 2013, 04:10:21 AM
I really wish notalwaysworking accepted comments on their stories.. there's so much wrong with this one: http://notalwaysworking.com/euro-out-of-your-mind

Oh, yes that one. I was yelling at my screen about that one earlier today.

... and the boss wasn't even the most clueless one. Guess it's a great example of "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".

I can't tell you how many tourists I've overheard in my city (Budapest) angrily asking a vendor why they don't accept Euros "because you're part of Europe!" And yes, while we are part of the EU, we are not on the Euro. If they had done the barest of trip planning, they should have discovered this long before they arrived!

Not to mention the tourists who think that the US dollar should be accepted here because "it's so much more valuable than your currency." Ugh. But that's another thread altogether :)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: MariaE on May 27, 2013, 04:22:42 AM
I really wish notalwaysworking accepted comments on their stories.. there's so much wrong with this one: http://notalwaysworking.com/euro-out-of-your-mind

Oh, yes that one. I was yelling at my screen about that one earlier today.

... and the boss wasn't even the most clueless one. Guess it's a great example of "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".

I can't tell you how many tourists I've overheard in my city (Budapest) angrily asking a vendor why they don't accept Euros "because you're part of Europe!" And yes, while we are part of the EU, we are not on the Euro. If they had done the barest of trip planning, they should have discovered this long before they arrived!

Not to mention the tourists who think that the US dollar should be accepted here because "it's so much more valuable than your currency." Ugh. But that's another thread altogether :)

Same goes for Denmark. Part of the EU, but still kept our Danish Krone. I think many stores will accept Euro notes though, but any change will be given in DKK.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: perpetua on May 27, 2013, 04:29:27 AM

I misread that as, "women don't have potatoes"  :P

A friend of mine was in her first year of med school. The topic of the tutorial happened to be human puberty or something similar, and the tutor was kind of rushing through the obvious stuff that everyone knows to get to the more important details that they would need to know as doctors. But then one guy raised his hand and interrupted...

"Hang on, did you say that during menstruation, blood comes out constantly? For days?"
"Yes, that's pretty much the biggest symptom of menstruation. Anyway-"
"No, no, I mean, constantly? Come on!"
"What do you mean? Of course it's constant; they can't just turn it off and on for convenience anymore than you can turn your heart off when you feel like it!"

The guy's jaw hit the ground. Apparently he thought it was just bloody urine. He had no idea that it occurred outside bathroom visits. I don't know if he finished med school. I've heard worse misconceptions, but not from med students.
I knew a guy who thought that too.  It was in college. He and his girlfriend were having a huge fight over playing scrabble since she did not enjoy scrabble while having her period. He kept insisting that she was being mean and lying since everyone knows that women only bleed when they go to the bathroom. It was a GREAT shock to discover to him that women are not that lucky.

If that were the case, why would there be a need for maxi pads and tampons?  Although I guess somebody who is that clueless really doesn't think about those things. 
Actually, that point was included in the discussion and his defense was indeed an indignant, "Well, I never thought about that! Why would i?" Oh I don't know, because that reality would contradict a belief you have and a reasonably intelligent and/or curious person would want to get to the bottom of a contradiction.

Y'know - the more I think about it, the more I can actually imagine several types of young men not being aware of this. I don't think this is so out there. Perhaps if they've had a very sheltered upbringing, or grown up in an environment where such things are kept secret, or if they've never had a girlfriend, or didn't grow up with any women in the house. I'd imagine biology lessons cover that menstruation happens, but not all of its finer plot points (although it's been an awful long time since I was in school so I could be wrong).

Med students though? Not so much of a pass :)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 27, 2013, 04:31:06 AM
When I taught the menstrual cycle to 11/12yo boys, they were fascinated.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Tini on May 27, 2013, 05:47:29 AM
When I was in hospital after an emergency c-section, the pain relief was provided by suppositories (don't ask me why, maybe the absorption is better). Anyhow, the first one - neatly wrapped in its square, kinda sharp-edged foil package - was handed to me by the nurse with the earnest admonishment to "remember to unwrap it".

I looked at her rather incredulously and said "You're not trying to tell me that someone..." at which point she nodded vigorously and I tried very hard not to laugh, because that really hurts when you have just had a c-section and no pain relief yet that morning.

Eeep.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: PastryGoddess on May 27, 2013, 06:40:43 AM
I really wish notalwaysworking accepted comments on their stories.. there's so much wrong with this one: http://notalwaysworking.com/euro-out-of-your-mind
Why??
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: MariaE on May 27, 2013, 06:45:47 AM
I really wish notalwaysworking accepted comments on their stories.. there's so much wrong with this one: http://notalwaysworking.com/euro-out-of-your-mind
Why??

Why do I wish they accepted comments or why there's so much wrong with it?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Emmy on May 27, 2013, 07:01:58 AM

I misread that as, "women don't have potatoes"  :P

A friend of mine was in her first year of med school. The topic of the tutorial happened to be human puberty or something similar, and the tutor was kind of rushing through the obvious stuff that everyone knows to get to the more important details that they would need to know as doctors. But then one guy raised his hand and interrupted...

"Hang on, did you say that during menstruation, blood comes out constantly? For days?"
"Yes, that's pretty much the biggest symptom of menstruation. Anyway-"
"No, no, I mean, constantly? Come on!"
"What do you mean? Of course it's constant; they can't just turn it off and on for convenience anymore than you can turn your heart off when you feel like it!"

The guy's jaw hit the ground. Apparently he thought it was just bloody urine. He had no idea that it occurred outside bathroom visits. I don't know if he finished med school. I've heard worse misconceptions, but not from med students.
I knew a guy who thought that too.  It was in college. He and his girlfriend were having a huge fight over playing scrabble since she did not enjoy scrabble while having her period. He kept insisting that she was being mean and lying since everyone knows that women only bleed when they go to the bathroom. It was a GREAT shock to discover to him that women are not that lucky.

If that were the case, why would there be a need for maxi pads and tampons?  Although I guess somebody who is that clueless really doesn't think about those things. 
Actually, that point was included in the discussion and his defense was indeed an indignant, "Well, I never thought about that! Why would i?" Oh I don't know, because that reality would contradict a belief you have and a reasonably intelligent and/or curious person would want to get to the bottom of a contradiction.

Y'know - the more I think about it, the more I can actually imagine several types of young men not being aware of this. I don't think this is so out there. Perhaps if they've had a very sheltered upbringing, or grown up in an environment where such things are kept secret, or if they've never had a girlfriend, or didn't grow up with any women in the house. I'd imagine biology lessons cover that menstruation happens, but not all of its finer plot points (although it's been an awful long time since I was in school so I could be wrong).

Med students though? Not so much of a pass :)

I don't think it would be so silly if he didn't know about menstruation and would admit his idea was wrong when somebody with more experience on the subject corrected him.  I just find it crazy that he argued with his girlfriend, called her a liar, and insisted 'everybody' knew women only bled when they went to the bathroom when he had no knowledge on the subject what so ever.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: PastryGoddess on May 27, 2013, 07:09:26 AM
I really wish notalwaysworking accepted comments on their stories.. there's so much wrong with this one: http://notalwaysworking.com/euro-out-of-your-mind
Why??

Why do I wish they accepted comments or why there's so much wrong with it?
What's wrong with it?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: MariaE on May 27, 2013, 07:17:42 AM
I really wish notalwaysworking accepted comments on their stories.. there's so much wrong with this one: http://notalwaysworking.com/euro-out-of-your-mind
Why??

Why do I wish they accepted comments or why there's so much wrong with it?
What's wrong with it?

Well, the boss is wrong - England doesn't use Euro even though it's in Europe. But the OP of the post is wrong too in the following: "No, they don’t. Only the countries in the European Union use the euro."

Error 1: England is part of the European Union (since 1973, same year as Denmark joined incidentally).
Error 2: Not all countries in the EU use the Euro. England doesn't (pound sterling), Denmark doesn't (Danish kroner), Sweden doesn't (Swedish krona)... I'm sure there are others, but those three I'm certain of.

So the OP was just as mistaken as the boss.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: joraemi on May 27, 2013, 07:18:55 AM
No - you cannot play Scrabble in your hospital room just after you've had a baby.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: faithlessone on May 27, 2013, 07:25:42 AM
No - you cannot play Scrabble in your hospital room just after you've had a baby.

Why would you want to???
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Snooks on May 27, 2013, 07:37:43 AM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Thipu1 on May 27, 2013, 07:40:24 AM
A few years ago I was in the HR department to pick up a paycheck. 

A Supervisor was breaking in a new employee.

'Our records begin on July 1 and end on June 31.  This is known as the physical year'.   :o

These are people who are taking care of payroll?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: MariaE on May 27, 2013, 07:46:28 AM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

Are the "likelihood of twins"-gene only passed down through the maternal side of the family?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: bonyk on May 27, 2013, 07:57:12 AM
No - you cannot play Scrabble in your hospital room just after you've had a baby.

When I toured the hospital before having DD, they showed us the labor room bathroom, and mentioned that the rule was that only the mother-to-be could be in the shower and DH had to remain clothed at all times.  Turns out there had been an 'incident' previously. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Snooks on May 27, 2013, 07:58:38 AM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

Are the "likelihood of twins"-gene only passed down through the maternal side of the family?

I've never found a definitive answer for that (i.e. the likelihood of your daughter having twins if there are twins in your husband's family) but nothing your husband can do can make you release two eggs.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: MariaE on May 27, 2013, 08:01:19 AM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

Are the "likelihood of twins"-gene only passed down through the maternal side of the family?

I've never found a definitive answer for that (i.e. the likelihood of your daughter having twins if there are twins in your husband's family) but nothing your husband can do can make you release two eggs.

Very true, but it might be possible that something your husband can do can make the egg split into two embryos. So identical twins might still be possible.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Snooks on May 27, 2013, 08:03:59 AM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

Are the "likelihood of twins"-gene only passed down through the maternal side of the family?

I've never found a definitive answer for that (i.e. the likelihood of your daughter having twins if there are twins in your husband's family) but nothing your husband can do can make you release two eggs.

Very true, but it might be possible that something your husband can do can make the egg split into two embryos. So identical twins might still be possible.

From what I've read the general opinion is that identical twins don't run in families.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: MariaE on May 27, 2013, 08:23:37 AM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

Are the "likelihood of twins"-gene only passed down through the maternal side of the family?

I've never found a definitive answer for that (i.e. the likelihood of your daughter having twins if there are twins in your husband's family) but nothing your husband can do can make you release two eggs.

Very true, but it might be possible that something your husband can do can make the egg split into two embryos. So identical twins might still be possible.

From what I've read the general opinion is that identical twins don't run in families.

Fair enough - I wouldn't have a clue :) I've just heard that twins run in families, but had no idea about the specifics.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Luci on May 27, 2013, 09:00:38 AM
A few years ago I was in the HR department to pick up a paycheck. 

A Supervisor was breaking in a new employee.

'Our records begin on July 1 and end on June 31.  This is known as the physical year'.   :o

These are people who are taking care of payroll?

The same reason that Realtors (tm, by the way) sometimes say "Realator" or a nurse may say "mameogram".  I've often wondered it it is some sort of speach anomoly.

I understand why people not in the businesses may mispronounce, but I, too, would expect the professional to say these works properly.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Thipu1 on May 27, 2013, 09:04:39 AM
'Physical year' for 'fiscal year' bothered me.  The worst part was 'June 31'.  June has only 30 days. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: TootsNYC on May 27, 2013, 09:20:50 AM
There are a lot of anecdotes about "Goodbye, God, I'm going to X." I'd take "Goodbye America, Hello New York!" as a statement that New York City is very different from other parts of the US. As in "New York is a great place to visit, but it is not 'America'." (Something I've heard more than once.)

Let's hope it was meant that way!

Actually, speaking as a NYers, I really object to it being meant that way! We are as American as any other part of the world. We may not be the SUBURBS, and we may not be a SMALL TOWN.

But we are American.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Cami on May 27, 2013, 09:23:29 AM
There are a lot of anecdotes about "Goodbye, God, I'm going to X." I'd take "Goodbye America, Hello New York!" as a statement that New York City is very different from other parts of the US. As in "New York is a great place to visit, but it is not 'America'." (Something I've heard more than once.)

Let's hope it was meant that way!

Actually, speaking as a NYers, I really object to it being meant that way! We are as American as any other part of the world. We may not be the SUBURBS, and we may not be a SMALL TOWN.

But we are American.
Living in the midwest, I've been told multiple times over the years that NYC is not "really America". As  NYer, I take offense to that. I especially took offense when I heard that in the wake of 9/11 and had people telling me that they couldn't get that upset over it since an attack in NYC "isn't really like an attack on America."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: TootsNYC on May 27, 2013, 09:26:11 AM
In the wake of 9/11, it was the FIRST time I had ever felt that the rest of the country considered us to be "one of them," actually.

Up until that point, I felt that there was a big disconnect between NYC and the rest of the country. After the attack, it felt that people in other parts of the country WERE saying, "that was an attack on America, on me, on US."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: rose red on May 27, 2013, 09:31:38 AM
I think some (not all) people may feel that way because they hear some (not all) New Yorkers say "Well in New York, we..." like they want to feel separate from the rest of the US.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Thipu1 on May 27, 2013, 09:32:33 AM
There are a lot of anecdotes about "Goodbye, God, I'm going to X." I'd take "Goodbye America, Hello New York!" as a statement that New York City is very different from other parts of the US. As in "New York is a great place to visit, but it is not 'America'." (Something I've heard more than once.)

Let's hope it was meant that way!

Actually, speaking as a NYers, I really object to it being meant that way! We are as American as any
 other part of the world. We may not be the SUBURBS, and we may not be a SMALL TOWN.

But we are American.

Amen. 

People who aren't from the area often think that NYC is all Times Square and Donald Trump.  Even within Manhattan, there are neighborhoods that are more like small towns than the general perception of NYC.  That's especially true in the outer boroughs. 

Even people in upstate NYC may harbor a certain animosity towards the city.  That's one reason why we had so much trouble getting state money for relief after Sandy. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: daen on May 27, 2013, 09:47:51 AM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

Are the "likelihood of twins"-gene only passed down through the maternal side of the family?

I've never found a definitive answer for that (i.e. the likelihood of your daughter having twins if there are twins in your husband's family) but nothing your husband can do can make you release two eggs.

Very true, but it might be possible that something your husband can do can make the egg split into two embryos. So identical twins might still be possible.

From what I've read the general opinion is that identical twins don't run in families.

I offer the following proves-absolutely-nothing anecdote: I know a pair of identical twins whose father has twin sisters.
This anecdotal evidence is further weakend because I have no word as to if said twin aunts are fraternal or identical.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Venus193 on May 27, 2013, 10:24:10 AM
How on earth did that guy ever pass the entrance exam to medical school?  That is actually scary.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Free Range Hippy Chick on May 27, 2013, 10:38:49 AM
Yes, there is indeed a city in England called York. No, it isn't named after New York. The county of Hampshire is not named after New Hampshire. Yes indeed, we also have a Boston, and a Cambridge. They're quite close. No, they aren't named after... We have Bangor as well. I know of at least three Bangors in Wales and one in Northern Ireland. They are not named after... Yes, Norfolk is in England too.

No, we don't have an Orleans, not in England. It's in France.

I assumed he was just teasing me until he went and told somebody else that I was being stupid because everybody knows that British places are named after American ones.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Snooks on May 27, 2013, 10:40:42 AM
There's even a university in Cambridge!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 27, 2013, 10:56:02 AM
I am amazed how many people mix up "physicist" and "physician".
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: greencat on May 27, 2013, 10:58:03 AM
The Notalwayslearning that made me try to reach through my screen and beat the "knowledgeable" one with the Shovel of Knowledge was this one:

http://notalwayslearning.com/it-was-a-cownjugal-visit/30532 (http://notalwayslearning.com/it-was-a-cownjugal-visit/30532)

 - while "sperm" is not an acronym for anything, it is actually an abbreviation for the word "spermatozoa."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: TootsNYC on May 27, 2013, 11:22:25 AM
I think some (not all) people may feel that way because they hear some (not all) New Yorkers say "Well in New York, we..." like they want to feel separate from the rest of the US.
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New York City can be VERY different from other types of locales. But so can the deep country; so can a suburb; so can many other cities.

But we're still America.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: mbbored on May 27, 2013, 11:43:33 AM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

Are the "likelihood of twins"-gene only passed down through the maternal side of the family?

I've never found a definitive answer for that (i.e. the likelihood of your daughter having twins if there are twins in your husband's family) but nothing your husband can do can make you release two eggs.

Very true, but it might be possible that something your husband can do can make the egg split into two embryos. So identical twins might still be possible.

From what I've read the general opinion is that identical twins don't run in families.

Fair enough - I wouldn't have a clue :) I've just heard that twins run in families, but had no idea about the specifics.

From what I understand, identical twins are the cause of a spontaneous split in the zygote and isn't related to the genetics of the parents. Fraternal twins are due to a woman ovulating two eggs at a time and are a genetic trait in the mother's line; it can't be due to the father. However it can be passed down to the mother by her father. For example, I have a friend who's father and aunt are fraternal twins. She and her siblings aren't twins, but she and her sister have both given birth to fraternal twins.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Shalamar on May 27, 2013, 12:00:00 PM
I'm embarrassed to admit that I've had the "Are they identical?" conversation about boy-girl twins - with me asking that question.  :)    My only defense is that I didn't really mean "identical"; I meant "Do they look exactly like each other, except one's obviously a boy and the other is a girl?"  (Thinking Bobbsey Twins here.)  Of course, in that case, I shouldn't have used the word "identical". 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Pen^2 on May 27, 2013, 12:03:05 PM
Yes, identical twins are due to a single fertilised egg splitting into two separate eggs before they each develop separately. The twins come from the same original egg and sperm. They are thus genetically identical; they are naturally occurring clones. Fraternal twins are when two eggs happen to ovulate at once and both end up being fertilised. The twins are genetically not the same (since they came from different eggs and different sperms), and are nothing more than ordinary siblings.

Since gender is determined by DNA, identical twins will always have the same gender, barring a sex-change. Fraternal twins can be whatever, just like any other pair of ordinary siblings.

How about: the difference between astrology and astronomy. I was teaching a class about the solar system, and a disturbingly large number of the kids' parents thought, based on the unit name, that we would be learning about gemini and sagittarius and all that. Some rang up to ask why we would be spending so long (4 weeks) on it.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 27, 2013, 12:04:47 PM

How about: the difference between astrology and astronomy. I was teaching a class about the solar system, and a disturbingly large number of the kids' parents thought, based on the unit name, that we would be learning about gemini and sagittarius and all that. Some rang up to ask why we would be spending so long (4 weeks) on it.

Aaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhh!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: ClaireC79 on May 27, 2013, 12:25:20 PM
That no, boy/girl twins can NOT be identical. The standard question after learning my twins are boy/girl is, are they identical? I always reply nicely that, no, they aren't, but I've had a few people ask me if I'm sure!

I've had to explain this to a few people recently. One seriously thought that gender was determinded during mid pregnancy and you could have itentical twins of difference genders because the egg split before gender was determinded.

I have seen a photograph of conjoined twins of different genders - I think the final conclusion was that they should both have been male but one must have had a faulty Y chromosome so looked female (but would have been the same as a girl with Turners syndrome XO instead of XX)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kherbert05 on May 27, 2013, 12:35:46 PM
I have two friends that are twins and have a strong family resemblance - but are not identical. They had to argue with DOCTORS that they weren't identical - they had different blood types.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kareng57 on May 27, 2013, 01:08:28 PM
I have two friends that are twins and have a strong family resemblance - but are not identical. They had to argue with DOCTORS that they weren't identical - they had different blood types.


I believe that there's another type of twins - the egg splits before being fertilized by two different sperm.  So they'd have the same genes from Mom, but different ones from Dad.  I too once knew girl twins who I always assumed were identical till the mom mentioned that they weren't - I wonder if that's the scenario.

Then again, it's possible to non-twin siblings to have a very strong resemblance.  Years ago in the neighbourhood there were two sisters two years apart in age - and I couldn't tell them apart unless they were standing next to one another.  (I didn't know them very well, otherwise I'm sure I would have learned).
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: m2kbug on May 27, 2013, 01:26:01 PM
I have two friends that are twins and have a strong family resemblance - but are not identical. They had to argue with DOCTORS that they weren't identical - they had different blood types.

I believe that there's another type of twins - the egg splits before being fertilized by two different sperm.  So they'd have the same genes from Mom, but different ones from Dad.  I too once knew girl twins who I always assumed were identical till the mom mentioned that they weren't - I wonder if that's the scenario.

In this case they would still share a placenta, so it would probably be hard to tell right away, unless one was a boy and one was a girl.  I imagine this is pretty rare. 

One question I used to get as a kid, "How do you tell yourselves apart?" ;D 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: ClaireC79 on May 27, 2013, 01:35:33 PM
identical twins don't always share a placenta it depends on when the embryo splits
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Outdoor Girl on May 27, 2013, 01:36:13 PM
Probably one of the best examples of fraternal twins and definitely not identical would be the Roloff twins from Little People, Big World.  One is normally sized and the other is a little person.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: greencat on May 27, 2013, 01:46:08 PM
I have to admit my own silly thing.  A friend of mine recently had to tell me that my impression that every country in Europe drives on the left side of the road was quite mistaken.


Also, I know a pair of genetically identical twins who are not physically identical - I know non-twin brothers who look more alike than they do.  One twin is 4 inches taller than the other and somewhat more "masculine" looking features.

Weirdly, now that I think about it, my biology class's unit on twins went something like "The Peters twins are identical.  The Johnson brothers are fraternal twins who don't look alike.  Amy and Mark Smith are fraternal twins who look a lot alike, but are a boy and a girl, so you know they have to be fraternal."  I went to school with a lot of twins!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: HoneyBee42 on May 27, 2013, 02:24:16 PM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

Are the "likelihood of twins"-gene only passed down through the maternal side of the family?

I've never found a definitive answer for that (i.e. the likelihood of your daughter having twins if there are twins in your husband's family) but nothing your husband can do can make you release two eggs.

Very true, but it might be possible that something your husband can do can make the egg split into two embryos. So identical twins might still be possible.

From what I've read the general opinion is that identical twins don't run in families.

Fair enough - I wouldn't have a clue :) I've just heard that twins run in families, but had no idea about the specifics.
My research (after having spontaneous fraternal twins) revealed that identicals have about the same odds of showing up (it's somewhere around 1:285 pregnancies).  Fraternal twins, barring fertility drug use (which skews the figures to a ridiculous degree) have variations that seem to differ by things like maternal age, ethnicity (there's apparently a Nigerian tribe with a 1:22 chance of fraternal twins).  For me, the odds were 1:90 ... and I was that 1.  My daughter, by virtue of being a fraternal twin has a 1:17 chance that she will be the mother of twins.  And yes, the only way to have a set of identical twins of opposite genders is if there is a defect in the chromosome for one.

(I can't even begin to tell you how many times, when my twins were infants, I was asked if they were identical .... *AFTER* saying that it was a girl and boy in the stroller.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jedikaiti on May 27, 2013, 03:39:06 PM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

Are the "likelihood of twins"-gene only passed down through the maternal side of the family?

I've never found a definitive answer for that (i.e. the likelihood of your daughter having twins if there are twins in your husband's family) but nothing your husband can do can make you release two eggs.

I do know of a family with a number of identical twins - a set of brothers were identical twins, and both of them and another brother (who wasn't a twin) fathered a set of identical twins.

But yea, the man has nothing to do with how many eggs are present for fertilization. That's entirely up to the woman's physiology.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: nutraxfornerves on May 27, 2013, 04:02:13 PM
This took place in the 1980s. An elderly relative had learned to drive in the 1920s, so most of her driving experience was with cars that had rear view mirrors only on the drivers side. (Or, none at all, for that matter).

She had recently given up driving due to infirmity. Her husband mostly drove her around, but one day I was the chauffeur. She got into the passenger seat and immediately rolled down the window and started adjusting the passenger side rearview mirror. I was so startled, I yelled "What are you doing?!" "Well, I can't see anything in it so I'm adjusting it."

I had to explain the purpose of the mirror. Both she & her husband had assumed it was a newfangled "convenience" for the passenger. How they managed all those years (both did a lot of driving for their jobs) to not know how it works, was beyond me.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: starry diadem on May 27, 2013, 04:11:58 PM
I really wish notalwaysworking accepted comments on their stories.. there's so much wrong with this one: http://notalwaysworking.com/euro-out-of-your-mind
Why??

Why do I wish they accepted comments or why there's so much wrong with it?
What's wrong with it?

Well, the boss is wrong - England doesn't use Euro even though it's in Europe. But the OP of the post is wrong too in the following: "No, they don’t. Only the countries in the European Union use the euro."

Error 1: England is part of the European Union (since 1973, same year as Denmark joined incidentally).
Error 2: Not all countries in the EU use the Euro. England doesn't (pound sterling), Denmark doesn't (Danish kroner), Sweden doesn't (Swedish krona)... I'm sure there are others, but those three I'm certain of.

So the OP was just as mistaken as the boss.



You aren't quite right either.  England, as a separate entity, is not a member of the EU.  The United
Kingdom is a member, if which England is one part, along with Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: AmethystAnne on May 27, 2013, 04:30:08 PM

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My research (after having spontaneous fraternal twins) revealed that identicals have about the same odds of showing up (it's somewhere around 1:285 pregnancies).  Fraternal twins, barring fertility drug use (which skews the figures to a ridiculous degree) have variations that seem to differ by things like maternal age, ethnicity (there's apparently a Nigerian tribe with a 1:22 chance of fraternal twins).  For me, the odds were 1:90 ... and I was that 1.  My daughter, by virtue of being a fraternal twin has a 1:17 chance that she will be the mother of twins.  And yes, the only way to have a set of identical twins of opposite genders is if there is a defect in the chromosome for one.

(I can't even begin to tell you how many times, when my twins were infants, I was asked if they were identical .... *AFTER* saying that it was a girl and boy in the stroller.

 There have been "What if?" discussions with MiddleDD, her sisters, and me about this topic. From my GrammaH's side of our family, twins show up every 4th generation. I was the fortunate one in my generation.  ;D MiddleDD and her brother are my twins.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: PrincessInPink on May 27, 2013, 05:29:29 PM
This morning I had to tell my dad how to use the washing machine. He doesn't usually do laundry, my mom does his.

Then again, he knows how to do tons of things that I don't, so I can't complain too much.
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Post by: turtleIScream on May 27, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
The dog got a hotspot, so we've got a dedicated washcloth by the sink for cleaning his scratches and sores. I found my husband using this cloth to clean the water dispenser on the fridge. I can't believe I had to tell a grown man why this is so unsanitary.
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Post by: Twik on May 27, 2013, 06:33:21 PM
The James Cameron film Titanic is a fictionalized account of a TRUE event and not a documentary.  We do not have a biography on the life of that famous artist Jack Dawson because he never existed.  We do not have any photos he drew of a young woman naked.  He was a made up character played by Leonardo DiCaprio....


How many photos do you have that are drawn by real people?
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Post by: Nikko-chan on May 27, 2013, 06:46:00 PM
There are a lot of anecdotes about "Goodbye, God, I'm going to X." I'd take "Goodbye America, Hello New York!" as a statement that New York City is very different from other parts of the US. As in "New York is a great place to visit, but it is not 'America'." (Something I've heard more than once.)

Let's hope it was meant that way!

Actually, speaking as a NYers, I really object to it being meant that way! We are as American as any other part of the world. We may not be the SUBURBS, and we may not be a SMALL TOWN.

But we are American.

I only meant I hope he meant it that way because the other way is extremely brain hurty. Because it means he thinks NY is not even in the US.

 Also, I do not agree with the sentiment that NY is not an American state. It very much is an American state, filled with people who I am sure run the gamut, much like in any other state.  I was actually in NY once... and very sad I couldn't stay to see some things! Alas... it was not to be. I do apologize for offending you.
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Post by: Thipu1 on May 27, 2013, 06:47:58 PM
I've also heard stories about people on line to see 'Titanic' and mention that the ship sinks.  People waiting in line behind them went nuts.  'CRUD MONKEYS!!! You've just ruined the whole movie!!!'
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Post by: Nikko-chan on May 27, 2013, 06:56:36 PM
I've also heard stories about people on line to see 'Titanic' and mention that the ship sinks.  People waiting in line behind them went nuts.  'CRUD MONKEYS!!! You've just ruined the whole movie!!!'

I just... I don't have words. *grabs a stiff drink and also hands one to Thipu1*
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Post by: Asharah on May 27, 2013, 07:20:46 PM
I've also heard stories about people on line to see 'Titanic' and mention that the ship sinks.  People waiting in line behind them went nuts.  'CRUD MONKEYS!!! You've just ruined the whole movie!!!'

I just... I don't have words. *grabs a stiff drink and also hands one to Thipu1*
Somebody at work got mad at me because I mentioned that Rose has to survive since she's the one telling the story. I said, if you saw any previews for the movie you would already know that!
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Post by: stkatie00 on May 27, 2013, 07:47:00 PM
On the twin thing: before we found out the gender of the twins, I was doing research about how or if a father could influence the occurrence of twins, and I found one study that suggested some men may have an enzyme in their sperm that makes it more likely an egg will split to create identical twins. But I don't know if their results have been replicated or not, so who knows? I just found it interesting. For us, although my husband's grandfather has a fraternal twin, twins don't run in my family, nor did we have any of the risk factors for twins, so ours were completely spontaneous.
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Post by: Bluenomi on May 27, 2013, 09:17:41 PM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

The only twins in my family are my father's younger sisters and I'm having twins! I suspect it's just fluke but it can and does happen.

My mum has best friends who are itentical twins (or at least everyone assumes they are, they've never been DNA tested which is the only way to know for sure) but have different birthdays. They were born either side of midnight  ;D
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Post by: Softly Spoken on May 27, 2013, 10:41:14 PM
I found this thread tonight after I just watched a caught-on-tape show where, after a near tragedy, a laundromat owner is going to have to have a sign made that says "Please do not put your children in the washing machines."

 :o
...
Yeah.
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Post by: nuit93 on May 27, 2013, 10:44:45 PM
No - you cannot play Scrabble in your hospital room just after you've had a baby.

Why would you want to???

I read an *ahem* adult-oriented story that was about exactly that.
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Post by: katycoo on May 27, 2013, 11:32:29 PM
Also, I know a pair of genetically identical twins who are not physically identical - I know non-twin brothers who look more alike than they do.  One twin is 4 inches taller than the other and somewhat more "masculine" looking features.

That's interesting.  My understanding was that any physical differences would have been impacted by external forces (ie. heigh impacted due to injury or something)
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Post by: NyaChan on May 27, 2013, 11:33:38 PM
I found this thread tonight after I just watched a caught-on-tape show where, after a near tragedy, a laundromat owner is going to have to have a sign made that says "Please do not put your children in the washing machines."

 :o
...
Yeah.

I saw that too!  It was horrifying - putting a baby into a machine is not a prank!
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Post by: mbbored on May 28, 2013, 12:01:23 AM
Also, I know a pair of genetically identical twins who are not physically identical - I know non-twin brothers who look more alike than they do.  One twin is 4 inches taller than the other and somewhat more "masculine" looking features.

That's interesting.  My understanding was that any physical differences would have been impacted by external forces (ie. heigh impacted due to injury or something)

Identical genetics only go so far; the environment and your reactions to it govern a good amount of how you appear as an adult. Granted, most twins have fairly identical environments as children, but if one produced more testosterone than than the other, he could possibly be taller and more masculine looking.

I have a friend who has an identical twin who is distinctly shorter and less curvy. The twin was an extremely competitive gymnast as an adolescent, which delayed puberty, while my friend would through a more typical adolescence.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Allyson on May 28, 2013, 12:20:11 AM
I had to explain to a 21 year old coworker that there is actual no physical way to get pregnant from a toilet seat. She kept arguing with me about how 'you never know'.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: girlysprite on May 28, 2013, 02:51:27 AM
I had to explain to a 21 year old coworker that there is actual no physical way to get pregnant from a toilet seat. She kept arguing with me about how 'you never know'.

That line, in such a context makes me wanna smash stuff.

This reminds me: someone forwarded an eail to me once, reating a story/advice on how raw eggwhites would help against burn wounds, if it was applied right away. Did no ne stop to think of all the risks associated with that? Hey, an open wound! Let's rub something in it that kills dozens of people per year just by eating it!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cabbageweevil on May 28, 2013, 03:04:49 AM
This took place in the 1980s. An elderly relative had learned to drive in the 1920s, so most of her driving experience was with cars that had rear view mirrors only on the drivers side. (Or, none at all, for that matter).

She had recently given up driving due to infirmity. Her husband mostly drove her around, but one day I was the chauffeur. She got into the passenger seat and immediately rolled down the window and started adjusting the passenger side rearview mirror. I was so startled, I yelled "What are you doing?!" "Well, I can't see anything in it so I'm adjusting it."

I had to explain the purpose of the mirror. Both she & her husband had assumed it was a newfangled "convenience" for the passenger. How they managed all those years (both did a lot of driving for their jobs) to not know how it works, was beyond me.

I'm putting myself in the line of fire here, as an adult who should know -- but doesn't -- a silly and obvious thing which I'd wish people to tell me.  I can't drive; and my abortive attempts to learn, were forty-year-plus ago.  I don't know why the passenger side rear-view mirror is there.  Please will someone enlighten me?
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Post by: cicero on May 28, 2013, 03:19:52 AM
This took place in the 1980s. An elderly relative had learned to drive in the 1920s, so most of her driving experience was with cars that had rear view mirrors only on the drivers side. (Or, none at all, for that matter).

She had recently given up driving due to infirmity. Her husband mostly drove her around, but one day I was the chauffeur. She got into the passenger seat and immediately rolled down the window and started adjusting the passenger side rearview mirror. I was so startled, I yelled "What are you doing?!" "Well, I can't see anything in it so I'm adjusting it."

I had to explain the purpose of the mirror. Both she & her husband had assumed it was a newfangled "convenience" for the passenger. How they managed all those years (both did a lot of driving for their jobs) to not know how it works, was beyond me.
it's not silly - you *wouldn't* know unless you were a driver: the driver sets up the side mirrors to give him/her a full view of what's going on in back/sides. when you are driving, the cars appear in the backview mirror, but, if they are on the side of you, or if they move from the back to the side (as in passing you) then you can't see them if they are on the side and to the back.
I'm putting myself in the line of fire here, as an adult who should know -- but doesn't -- a silly and obvious thing which I'd wish people to tell me.  I can't drive; and my abortive attempts to learn, were forty-year-plus ago.  I don't know why the passenger side rear-view mirror is there.  Please will someone enlighten me?
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Post by: cabbageweevil on May 28, 2013, 03:57:45 AM
it's not silly - you *wouldn't* know unless you were a driver: the driver sets up the side mirrors to give him/her a full view of what's going on in back/sides. when you are driving, the cars appear in the backview mirror, but, if they are on the side of you, or if they move from the back to the side (as in passing you) then you can't see them if they are on the side and to the back.

Thanks for explanation. A non-driver's further clueless question: is the usefulness-or-not of the passenger side rear-view mirror, affected by what side of the road it is the convention to drive on? (I'm in the UK, where we drive on the left.)
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Post by: pwy a wyr on May 28, 2013, 04:21:25 AM
Hi.  In the UK too. The passenger side mirror I use for seeing that side of the car and behind.  This is good for multi lane roads, turning left,  parallel or reverse parking, watching for bikes and pedestrians, and to be generally aware of what is going on around the car.  As a driver, the more aware you are of your surroundings and what others are doing, the better your reaction will be if something happens.  For example, if you swerve to avoid someone pulling into your lane from the right, you need to know about the cyclist on your left. 
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Post by: scotcat60 on May 28, 2013, 08:31:43 AM
That no, boy/girl twins can NOT be identical. The standard question after learning my twins are boy/girl is, are they identical? I always reply nicely that, no, they aren't, but I've had a few people ask me if I'm sure!

This reminds me of the British comedian/actor/writer Eric Sykes. He starred in several very popular TV series "Sykes and a - (Bath, Bus etc.) and the actress Hattie Jacques played his sister. In the show, Eric would tell people, "We're Twins. Identical".
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Post by: Thipu1 on May 28, 2013, 08:36:16 AM
All this twin talk is fascinating but it's making me remember 'The Thompson Twins'. 

They were a trio. 
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Post by: Slartibartfast on May 28, 2013, 08:36:40 AM
Honestly, I don't think I've ever really consciously paid attention to the passenger-side mirror - but I drive a small car and I can see what I need to by looking over my shoulder and using the other two mirrors.  I know the law in the US is different for different types of vehicles - trucks and vans with solid back doors can't use the regular rear-view mirror, so I assume those drivers use their side mirrors a lot more.
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Post by: ladyknight1 on May 28, 2013, 08:37:42 AM
Side mirrors are extremely useful in a vehicle without a rear window, such as a cargo van. Without them, I would refuse to drive a vehicle that I could not see out of each direction. Even with side mirrors, the driver should do a shoulder check for objects in the blind spot.


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Post by: TootsNYC on May 28, 2013, 08:41:49 AM
I found this thread tonight after I just watched a caught-on-tape show where, after a near tragedy, a laundromat owner is going to have to have a sign made that says "Please do not put your children in the washing machines."

 :o
...
Yeah.

They all already say "do not let children play on or around machines."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: TootsNYC on May 28, 2013, 08:45:10 AM
Hi.  In the UK too. The passenger side mirror I use for seeing that side of the car and behind.  This is good for multi lane roads, turning left,  parallel or reverse parking, watching for bikes and pedestrians, and to be generally aware of what is going on around the car.  As a driver, the more aware you are of your surroundings and what others are doing, the better your reaction will be if something happens.  For example, if you swerve to avoid someone pulling into your lane from the right, you need to know about the cyclist on your left.

Actually, you don't want to see the side of the car at all.

You want to see the space in the LANE to that side of the car.  A lot of people do set the mirror so that they can see along the edge of their own car, and that's not the safest setting. You want to tip the mirror out so you can see out from your car by about 12"--the space between cars.

So that what you're looking at is the front grill of the car that's sitting in your blind spot (even with your back passenger door).

With the mirrors properly adjusted, you can see everything around you by looking in the mirrors or turning your head 45 degrees to align w/ your shoulder--you should never have to actually look behind your shoulder.


Here's how I do it, and I can see everything on NYC's multi-lane roads.
http://www.cartalk.com/content/avoiding-blind-spot-1

And here's a great diagram of how it should look.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/how-to-adjust-your-mirrors-to-avoid-blind-spots
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 28, 2013, 09:40:16 AM
But if you can't see the side if your own car, it becomes almost impossible to parallel park to the passenger side (ie a left hand parallel park for a right hand driver).
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Post by: PastryGoddess on May 28, 2013, 09:50:31 AM
But if you can't see the side if your own car, it becomes almost impossible to parallel park to the passenger side (ie a left hand parallel park for a right hand driver).

You can adjust the mirrors as needed to parallel park. I do it all the time when pulling into my parking space in front of my house

I have my mirrors to see the lanes on either side while driving
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 28, 2013, 10:01:18 AM
But if you can't see the side if your own car, it becomes almost impossible to parallel park to the passenger side (ie a left hand parallel park for a right hand driver).

You can adjust the mirrors as needed to parallel park. I do it all the time when pulling into my parking space in front of my house

No, I can't.  I can't reach the passenger mirror from the driver's seat.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: PastryGoddess on May 28, 2013, 10:11:07 AM
But if you can't see the side if your own car, it becomes almost impossible to parallel park to the passenger side (ie a left hand parallel park for a right hand driver).

You can adjust the mirrors as needed to parallel park. I do it all the time when pulling into my parking space in front of my house

No, I can't.  I can't reach the passenger mirror from the driver's seat.

I have electric mirrors that are controlled from the drivers side.  I simply reach down and can adjust them by pressing a button.  I just realized that not all cars have this feature.  Sorry...
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Post by: Kariachi on May 28, 2013, 10:17:02 AM

<snipped the quote tree>

My research (after having spontaneous fraternal twins) revealed that identicals have about the same odds of showing up (it's somewhere around 1:285 pregnancies).  Fraternal twins, barring fertility drug use (which skews the figures to a ridiculous degree) have variations that seem to differ by things like maternal age, ethnicity (there's apparently a Nigerian tribe with a 1:22 chance of fraternal twins).  For me, the odds were 1:90 ... and I was that 1.  My daughter, by virtue of being a fraternal twin has a 1:17 chance that she will be the mother of twins.  And yes, the only way to have a set of identical twins of opposite genders is if there is a defect in the chromosome for one.

(I can't even begin to tell you how many times, when my twins were infants, I was asked if they were identical .... *AFTER* saying that it was a girl and boy in the stroller.

 There have been "What if?" discussions with MiddleDD, her sisters, and me about this topic. From my GrammaH's side of our family, twins show up every 4th generation. I was the fortunate one in my generation.  ;D MiddleDD and her brother are my twins.

Every other generation in mine. Great-great-grandma had 13 kids, with only one being a singleton (twins and triplets), great-aunt had a set of twins, and now it's the turn of the girls in my generation.
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Post by: Dr. F. on May 28, 2013, 10:19:15 AM
Invariably, at least one person on a given flight to Honolulu will ask where they can change money from US$ to the local currency.

Sigh.
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Post by: Luci on May 28, 2013, 10:20:40 AM
Honestly, I don't think I've ever really consciously paid attention to the passenger-side mirror - but I drive a small car and I can see what I need to by looking over my shoulder and using the other two mirrors.  I know the law in the US is different for different types of vehicles - trucks and vans with solid back doors can't use the regular rear-view mirror, so I assume those drivers use their side mirrors a lot more.

I used to turn to look, too, but after my back surgery, I was not to bend, lift, or twist, even after I was given permission to drive. I quickly learned to use those mirrors, even in our (small) Subaru Forester.

We have the 'rear-view mirror' and the two 'side mirrors, driver's and passenger's sides, so as not to miscommunicate when discussing them.

Added because of the next post: There is no parallel parking in my town or anywhere else I drive to.
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Post by: TootsNYC on May 28, 2013, 10:27:09 AM
But if you can't see the side if your own car, it becomes almost impossible to parallel park to the passenger side (ie a left hand parallel park for a right hand driver).

I *never* use the mirrors to parallel park!
Not with either side.

The directions I was given did not ever use the mirrors to guide me. They all involved pegging off of the corner of the other car, my "post" (by the back side window), etc.

And I'll say that it's far more important to me to be able to see in my blind spot at highway speeds than it is to struggle a bit with parallel parking, at 4mph.
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Post by: cwm on May 28, 2013, 10:33:55 AM
My dad's family has twins every other generation or so.  He was a twin, and to date nobody in my generation has had twins yet. Then again, there's only three or four of us that have had kids, so kind of a small sample size.
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Post by: GSNW on May 28, 2013, 10:46:26 AM
DH and I went to Canada for our five-year wedding anniversary.  At the ticket counter checking in, the agent looked us up and said, "Oh, you're flying to Vancouver, how fun!  You know what you really must do while you're in Canada... visit Niagra Falls."

I thought for a minute she was joking, but she was not.

Apparently US Airways does not require its ticket agents to be masters of geography.
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Post by: Thipu1 on May 28, 2013, 11:02:26 AM
DH and I went to Canada for our five-year wedding anniversary.  At the ticket counter checking in, the agent looked us up and said, "Oh, you're flying to Vancouver, how fun!  You know what you really must do while you're in Canada... visit Niagra Falls."

I thought for a minute she was joking, but she was not.

Apparently US Airways does not require its ticket agents to be masters of geography.

Good grief!  One would expect an airline ticket agent to know that Canada is as wide as the USA and know that Vancouver was as far from Niagara Falls as Seattle. 

The mind never ceases to be amazed. 
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Post by: Shalamar on May 28, 2013, 11:06:11 AM
Yikes!  That's as bad as my friend's relatives who visited Winnipeg (Manitoba, Canada) from Great Britain and thought that Disneyland would be a one-day drive. 
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Post by: MrTango on May 28, 2013, 12:48:07 PM
it's not silly - you *wouldn't* know unless you were a driver: the driver sets up the side mirrors to give him/her a full view of what's going on in back/sides. when you are driving, the cars appear in the backview mirror, but, if they are on the side of you, or if they move from the back to the side (as in passing you) then you can't see them if they are on the side and to the back.

Thanks for explanation. A non-driver's further clueless question: is the usefulness-or-not of the passenger side rear-view mirror, affected by what side of the road it is the convention to drive on? (I'm in the UK, where we drive on the left.)

In the US (and most of the rest of the world, from my understanding), the driver's seat is the left seat, and we drive on the right side of the road.

In the UK, my understanding is that the driver sits in the right seat and drives on the left side of the road.  If that's correct, then the passenger-side mirror serves exactly the same purpose in either case, it's just that one car is a...mirror image...of the other.  >:D
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Post by: cwm on May 28, 2013, 01:14:36 PM
Upon visiting Massachussets for a business trip (from Kansas), my mother was taken aside by one of the local people. He pointed out those tall green things and explained that they were trees.

We do have trees in Kansas. And the Flint Hills are actual hills. Beautiful rolling hillsides. It's not all completely flat, despite what people say.

When I worked in the camping department of a store that specializes in outdoor activities, you'd be surprised how many people didn't realize that one sleeping bag wouldn't work year-round. They wanted one that would keep them warm for an early spring/late fall trip to the Rockies and would also be perfect for the middle of the summer at the lake. I'm sorry that there's no one fabric/filling combo perfect for a 70 degree temperature difference. I'll get right on making one for you...
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 28, 2013, 01:19:49 PM
But if you can't see the side if your own car, it becomes almost impossible to parallel park to the passenger side (ie a left hand parallel park for a right hand driver).

You can adjust the mirrors as needed to parallel park. I do it all the time when pulling into my parking space in front of my house

No, I can't.  I can't reach the passenger mirror from the driver's seat.

I have electric mirrors that are controlled from the drivers side.  I simply reach down and can adjust them by pressing a button.  I just realized that not all cars have this feature.  Sorry...

Ha ha, I haven't even got electric windows!  :D
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 28, 2013, 01:20:34 PM
But if you can't see the side if your own car, it becomes almost impossible to parallel park to the passenger side (ie a left hand parallel park for a right hand driver).

I *never* use the mirrors to parallel park!
Not with either side.

The directions I was given did not ever use the mirrors to guide me. They all involved pegging off of the corner of the other car, my "post" (by the back side window), etc.

And I'll say that it's far more important to me to be able to see in my blind spot at highway speeds than it is to struggle a bit with parallel parking, at 4mph.

I was taught differently.
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Post by: Snooks on May 28, 2013, 01:32:27 PM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

The only twins in my family are my father's younger sisters and I'm having twins! I suspect it's just fluke but it can and does happen.

Silly question but are you a woman?  If so then there's the argument that your grandmother carried the "gene" for multiple ovulation, that gene passed to your father but he had no use for it and he then passed to you.
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Post by: SheltieMom on May 28, 2013, 02:17:26 PM
If you are as geography-challenged as I am, here's a great website for learning more about it in a fun game format.
http://www.sheppardsoftware.com/web_games_menu.htm

I used this with my sixth grade students, and got hooked on it myself. I've learned more about geography than I ever did in school. There are lots of other subjects here, too. My daughter used the periodic table games for her high school chemistry class.
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Post by: Asharah on May 28, 2013, 02:22:50 PM
Upon visiting Massachussets for a business trip (from Kansas), my mother was taken aside by one of the local people. He pointed out those tall green things and explained that they were trees.

We do have trees in Kansas. And the Flint Hills are actual hills. Beautiful rolling hillsides. It's not all completely flat, despite what people say.
Of course I know what trees are! I saw the movie "The Lorax!" It explains all about them! ;D
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Post by: hermanne on May 28, 2013, 02:41:26 PM
A friend of mine is from Washington state. When she took her a nanny job here on the East Coast, her boss was driving her around to show her the area. They came across a fast-food place, and boss said, "That's A McDonald's. Do you have McDonalds where you're from?"

Friend replied, "Yes, sometimes the Indians stop attacking long enough for us to get out." ::)

FTR, friend is part Native American.
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Post by: guihong on May 28, 2013, 02:52:56 PM
I had one I can tell on myself!  A friend of mine lived in Hawaii, and I told him I always wanted to go see the Hawaii 5-0 building.  Not only is there no such police force, but the "building" used as setting for McGarrett's office isn't even a police station  ::).
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Post by: lady_disdain on May 28, 2013, 03:10:53 PM
I had one I can tell on myself!  A friend of mine lived in Hawaii, and I told him I always wanted to go see the Hawaii 5-0 building.  Not only is there no such police force, but the "building" used as setting for McGarrett's office isn't even a police station  ::).

I wouldn't include TV show trivia as "something adults should know." You are completely in the clear with me.
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Post by: cabbageweevil on May 28, 2013, 03:28:51 PM
Much interesting material about passenger's-side rear-view mirrors; thanks, all.  As indicated earlier -- a matter to which non-driver me had, until this thread, been completely oblivious.

My brother will shortly be visiting for a couple of days, and various journeys will be made with him driving and me as passenger.  I'll mention this thread to him, and get his take on the principal values and usefulnesses of the passenger's-side mirror.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Kimblee on May 28, 2013, 03:34:05 PM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

Are the "likelihood of twins"-gene only passed down through the maternal side of the family?

I've never found a definitive answer for that (i.e. the likelihood of your daughter having twins if there are twins in your husband's family) but nothing your husband can do can make you release two eggs.

Very true, but it might be possible that something your husband can do can make the egg split into two embryos. So identical twins might still be possible.

From what I've read the general opinion is that identical twins don't run in families.

I keep reading that.

And yet(and I know, anecdote is not data)... I know four families that have a LOT of identicals. (Our family has 3 sets in one generation), a friend of mine is an identical, and his younger sisters are as well. He recently had a beautiful pair of... wait for it.

Identical twin boys. (they aren't albino though. We all swore they would be.)

Identical twins do seem to sometimes run in a family. Not sure why though.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Cami on May 28, 2013, 03:44:08 PM
A friend of mine is from Washington state. When she took her a nanny job here on the East Coast, her boss was driving her around to show her the area. They came across a fast-food place, and boss said, "That's A McDonald's. Do you have McDonalds where you're from?"

Friend replied, "Yes, sometimes the Indians stop attacking long enough for us to get out." ::)

FTR, friend is part Native American.

When we moved from NYC to the midwest when I was a teenager, I was repeatedly told that New York State = New York City and that I didn't know what I was talking about, that I was trying to "pull a fast one" when I told people that NYC is one city in the STATE of New York, which is a large state with vast tracts of wilderness area. In fact, this belief that New York State = NYC was so widespread that one of my mother's coworkers had a very disappointing honeymoon. They drove east from the midwest and when they crossed the border from PA into New York State, they were dumbfounded to not see the Empire State Building. Apparently, they spent 2 weeks driving around  New York State and never encountered NYC nor did they ever ask anyone where  New York City was, because they were so sure that they'd just see it.

Another time I had a phone operator in the US tell me that Delaware was not a state in the US, but was "someplace in England."

Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cwm on May 28, 2013, 03:58:07 PM
A friend of mine is from Washington state. When she took her a nanny job here on the East Coast, her boss was driving her around to show her the area. They came across a fast-food place, and boss said, "That's A McDonald's. Do you have McDonalds where you're from?"

Friend replied, "Yes, sometimes the Indians stop attacking long enough for us to get out." ::)

FTR, friend is part Native American.

When we moved from NYC to the midwest when I was a teenager, I was repeatedly told that New York State = New York City and that I didn't know what I was talking about, that I was trying to "pull a fast one" when I told people that NYC is one city in the STATE of New York, which is a large state with vast tracts of wilderness area. In fact, this belief that New York State = NYC was so widespread that one of my mother's coworkers had a very disappointing honeymoon. They drove east from the midwest and when they crossed the border from PA into New York State, they were dumbfounded to not see the Empire State Building. Apparently, they spent 2 weeks driving around  New York State and never encountered NYC nor did they ever ask anyone where  New York City was, because they were so sure that they'd just see it.

Another time I had a phone operator in the US tell me that Delaware was not a state in the US, but was "someplace in England."

I have had people argue with me that there was no such place as Kansas City, Missouri because Kansas City is obviously in Kansas.

I have also had people argue the opposite, that there is no Kansas City in Kansas, that it's a city in Missouri.

Well, there's technically a Kansas City in both states, and it's all part of the two-state greater Kansas City metropolitan area.

Also, I've had people who have lived within this city all their lives argue that State Line Road isn't the dividing boundary between the states. Well, where the road exists, it is. I know it changes further South, and up North the river is the dividing boundray, but if you're crossing State Line Road, you're crossing into another state.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: AmethystAnne on May 28, 2013, 04:00:13 PM
My former son-in-law believed that anybody who lived or came from New Jersey had ties to 'the Mob'.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jedikaiti on May 28, 2013, 04:09:47 PM
I had one I can tell on myself!  A friend of mine lived in Hawaii, and I told him I always wanted to go see the Hawaii 5-0 building.  Not only is there no such police force, but the "building" used as setting for McGarrett's office isn't even a police station  ::).

I wouldn't include TV show trivia as "something adults should know." You are completely in the clear with me.

You'd be amazed how many different buildings in DC stand in for the headquarters of the FBI or CIA or NSA or whatever government agency in movies/tv shows. I'm always looking at them going "but that looks like HUD headquarters" or "I'm pretty sure that's Department of Energy". Sometimes (at least for FBI) they use the correct building, but not always.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: squeakers on May 28, 2013, 04:17:35 PM
I had to explain to a male coworker, one who is married and has a kid, that women don't have prostates, therefore we won't cover a Prostate Specific Antigen test for a woman. Trying to be as delicate as possible, I had to explain that the prostate is part of the equipment that makes a male a male. Feeling increasingly desperate because he was still clueless, I said "It's just like a guy won't have a cervix."

When he asked me what a cervix was, I told him to ask his wife. My manager overheard my side of the conversation with her jaw open because she couldn't believe I had to explain the difference between boy bits and girl bits to a guy around my age (36ish).

Well, actually, women do have a gland that is basically the same thing.  It's called the Skene's Gland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene's_gland (anatomically correct drawing on that page): "Because they are increasingly perceived as merely different versions of the same gland, some researchers are moving away from the name Skene's gland and are referring to it instead as the female prostate.[17]"
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: stitchygreyanonymouse on May 28, 2013, 04:31:57 PM
A friend of mine is from Washington state. When she took her a nanny job here on the East Coast, her boss was driving her around to show her the area. They came across a fast-food place, and boss said, "That's A McDonald's. Do you have McDonalds where you're from?"

Friend replied, "Yes, sometimes the Indians stop attacking long enough for us to get out." ::)

FTR, friend is part Native American.

When we moved from NYC to the midwest when I was a teenager, I was repeatedly told that New York State = New York City and that I didn't know what I was talking about, that I was trying to "pull a fast one" when I told people that NYC is one city in the STATE of New York, which is a large state with vast tracts of wilderness area. In fact, this belief that New York State = NYC was so widespread that one of my mother's coworkers had a very disappointing honeymoon. They drove east from the midwest and when they crossed the border from PA into New York State, they were dumbfounded to not see the Empire State Building. Apparently, they spent 2 weeks driving around  New York State and never encountered NYC nor did they ever ask anyone where  New York City was, because they were so sure that they'd just see it.

Another time I had a phone operator in the US tell me that Delaware was not a state in the US, but was "someplace in England."

I have had people argue with me that there was no such place as Kansas City, Missouri because Kansas City is obviously in Kansas.

I have also had people argue the opposite, that there is no Kansas City in Kansas, that it's a city in Missouri.

Well, there's technically a Kansas City in both states, and it's all part of the two-state greater Kansas City metropolitan area.

Also, I've had people who have lived within this city all their lives argue that State Line Road isn't the dividing boundary between the states. Well, where the road exists, it is. I know it changes further South, and up North the river is the dividing boundray, but if you're crossing State Line Road, you're crossing into another state.

I’ve broken many brains here in Upstate NY by saying I’m from Kansas City, Missouri, not Kansas. And then really messing with them by saying something like, "but I had to drive through Kansas to get to my high school" (because it was on the Missouri side of State Line Rd), but I had to approach from the north (for those not familiar, southbound is the Kansas side, northbound is MO for the part cwm is describing.

MY SO and I are so used to what Cami describes when we visit MO that we almost respond, "no, we live like 4 hours away from NYC in a pretty small town" without thinking. Then there was the time that an adult guy in Missourah asked my SO for directions. The conversation proceeded as such:

SO: Sorry, I’m not from around here. I don’t even know the name of the road we’re on right now.
Guy: Oh? Where are you from.
SO: New York. (steels self for the "not NYC" response)
Guy: New York, huh? What state is that in?

SO was speechless.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Lynn2000 on May 28, 2013, 04:33:55 PM
I remember one from when I was in junior high, so about 14 years old. We lived in a small Midwestern town. Quite a lot of things that seem mundane or obvious to me now were exotic back then. There was a foreign exchange student at the high school--from Sweden, I think--and she came to talk to us one day. We had no clue what Sweden was like! We probably couldn't find it on the map. If we thought anything about it, we probably thought it was really cold all the time, and had Vikings still. At one point she got a bit fed up with our inane questions and when someone asked, "Do you have jeans in Sweden?" she answered sarcastically, "No, we go around naked!"  >:D

It was actually quite enlightening for me, because I had never before considered that people in "foreign countries" often did things the same way we did in the US. In our classes there wasn't a big emphasis on current events, just history (plus all the "contemporary resources" were at least 20 years out of date), and when we did learn about something contemporary in another country, the "differentness" seemed to be the point. Like, "Look at the modern hunter-gatherers in Africa! Isn't it interesting how different cultures do things differently?" So you end up thinking everyone in Africa is a hunter-gatherer. Personally I always liked history/geography/culture, so additional study helped dispel some of those assumptions, but not everyone is interested in that.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jaxsue on May 28, 2013, 04:37:31 PM
I had to explain to a friend in our second year of university (both of us were mature students, I was 31 and she was 40) how to use the index of a book to see if it had any information about a topic.  She had got through the first year of our degree by reading books cover to cover (slowly) to see if they were any use!

She was the same person I spent an hour explaining that 50%, 1/2 and 0.5 were all the same as were 25%, 1/4 and 0.25, etc!!!  She was training to be a teacher.

I am fearful for our future.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Carotte on May 28, 2013, 04:39:52 PM
I had one I can tell on myself!  A friend of mine lived in Hawaii, and I told him I always wanted to go see the Hawaii 5-0 building.  Not only is there no such police force, but the "building" used as setting for McGarrett's office isn't even a police station  ::).

I wouldn't include TV show trivia as "something adults should know." You are completely in the clear with me.

You'd be amazed how many different buildings in DC stand in for the headquarters of the FBI or CIA or NSA or whatever government agency in movies/tv shows. I'm always looking at them going "but that looks like HUD headquarters" or "I'm pretty sure that's Department of Energy". Sometimes (at least for FBI) they use the correct building, but not always.

I'm pretty sure tv and movies producers take even more freedom when it's in another country from the first target audiance.
It's always fun to spot the "well that couldn't be right, going from point A to B in less than 1h! and they did it by train! you can only take a boat there!".
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jaxsue on May 28, 2013, 04:51:16 PM
To the poster who asked what was wrong with beeping the horn at the school.  The driveway is literally right at the front of the school..driveway, sidewalk, classrooms and the office.  My sister also would not just give a toot...she repeatedly does long hits of the horn (pet peeve of mine) as more DD yells again! again!  (she's 6, I'll forgive her).  I have had to tell her not to blast the radio as she pulls in too!

I agree that repeatedly honking the car horn is rude in this case. I detest people who pull up to a house/business, and lay on the horn. Ugh.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Katana_Geldar on May 28, 2013, 04:52:05 PM
Like in the 2005 Supernova building where they we're trying to pass off South Africa as Australia.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jaxsue on May 28, 2013, 04:53:42 PM
Some folks, upon learning that we were from Canada, asked if we had any problems with polar bears.   :)

(Mind you, I HAVE had a close encounter with a moose on a quiet residential street in the 'burbs.)

My parents are Canadian. I used to get questions from Americans that floored me (including adults!): Do Canadians live in igloos? How can you understand them (everyone speaks french)? Do they have 6 months of winter (even in Southern Ontario)?  :o
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jaxsue on May 28, 2013, 04:56:10 PM
As a Canadian, we had to memorize the provinces and territories and their capitols.  But it is a heck of lot easier to remember 10 provinces and 2 (now 3) territories than 50 states and 2 (I think) territories.

My mom grew up in Ontario (Collingwood). When she went to school she had to learn all 50 states/capitals as well as the province info.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jaxsue on May 28, 2013, 05:07:54 PM
My former son-in-law believed that anybody who lived or came from New Jersey had ties to 'the Mob'.

It's one of the requirements in order to get residency.  ;) (live in Central Jersey)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Outdoor Girl on May 28, 2013, 05:17:49 PM
As a Canadian, we had to memorize the provinces and territories and their capitols.  But it is a heck of lot easier to remember 10 provinces and 2 (now 3) territories than 50 states and 2 (I think) territories.

My mom grew up in Ontario (Collingwood). When she went to school she had to learn all 50 states/capitals as well as the province info.

I'm glad I didn't.  I don't think I could have done it without a lot of work.  And I probably would have forgotten everything as soon as the test was over.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Sara Crewe on May 28, 2013, 05:29:44 PM
I had one I can tell on myself!  A friend of mine lived in Hawaii, and I told him I always wanted to go see the Hawaii 5-0 building.  Not only is there no such police force, but the "building" used as setting for McGarrett's office isn't even a police station  ::).

I wouldn't include TV show trivia as "something adults should know." You are completely in the clear with me.

You'd be amazed how many different buildings in DC stand in for the headquarters of the FBI or CIA or NSA or whatever government agency in movies/tv shows. I'm always looking at them going "but that looks like HUD headquarters" or "I'm pretty sure that's Department of Energy". Sometimes (at least for FBI) they use the correct building, but not always.

I'm pretty sure tv and movies producers take even more freedom when it's in another country from the first target audiance.
It's always fun to spot the "well that couldn't be right, going from point A to B in less than 1h! and they did it by train! you can only take a boat there!".

Like the latest Die Hard movie where they drove from Moscow to Chernobyl in a couple of hours (based on the fact it was dark when they left, dark when they arrived and the people they were following who had flown there were still there at the time).  Even better, they managed to cross the border to the Ukraine with an international fugitive and probable assumed terrorist in the car (an assumption from previous events in the movie) and no one noticed. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: mrs_deb on May 28, 2013, 05:40:04 PM
As a Canadian, we had to memorize the provinces and territories and their capitols.  But it is a heck of lot easier to remember 10 provinces and 2 (now 3) territories than 50 states and 2 (I think) territories.

My mom grew up in Ontario (Collingwood). When she went to school she had to learn all 50 states/capitals as well as the province info.

I'm glad I didn't.  I don't think I could have done it without a lot of work.  And I probably would have forgotten everything as soon as the test was over.

I had to memorize the name and location of all 47 of Japan's prefectures for a test when I lived there.  Got 100%.  I think I forgot them the very next day.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: QueenfaninCA on May 28, 2013, 05:46:59 PM
I remember one from when I was in junior high, so about 14 years old. We lived in a small Midwestern town. Quite a lot of things that seem mundane or obvious to me now were exotic back then. There was a foreign exchange student at the high school--from Sweden, I think--and she came to talk to us one day. We had no clue what Sweden was like! We probably couldn't find it on the map. If we thought anything about it, we probably thought it was really cold all the time, and had Vikings still. At one point she got a bit fed up with our inane questions and when someone asked, "Do you have jeans in Sweden?" she answered sarcastically, "No, we go around naked!"  >:D

Having been a European exchange student in the US in the late 80s, I can sympathize with her. After being asked for the third time if we have telephones or TVs, you kind of have had it. Especially when the people asking are adults. You'd really expect them to have an inkling about the living standards in other first world countries. At the time my impression was that a lot of Americans seemed to think that the US is the only first world country in existence.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Kaymyth on May 28, 2013, 07:43:13 PM
A friend of mine is from Washington state. When she took her a nanny job here on the East Coast, her boss was driving her around to show her the area. They came across a fast-food place, and boss said, "That's A McDonald's. Do you have McDonalds where you're from?"

Friend replied, "Yes, sometimes the Indians stop attacking long enough for us to get out." ::)

FTR, friend is part Native American.

When we moved from NYC to the midwest when I was a teenager, I was repeatedly told that New York State = New York City and that I didn't know what I was talking about, that I was trying to "pull a fast one" when I told people that NYC is one city in the STATE of New York, which is a large state with vast tracts of wilderness area. In fact, this belief that New York State = NYC was so widespread that one of my mother's coworkers had a very disappointing honeymoon. They drove east from the midwest and when they crossed the border from PA into New York State, they were dumbfounded to not see the Empire State Building. Apparently, they spent 2 weeks driving around  New York State and never encountered NYC nor did they ever ask anyone where  New York City was, because they were so sure that they'd just see it.

Another time I had a phone operator in the US tell me that Delaware was not a state in the US, but was "someplace in England."

I have had people argue with me that there was no such place as Kansas City, Missouri because Kansas City is obviously in Kansas.

I have also had people argue the opposite, that there is no Kansas City in Kansas, that it's a city in Missouri.

Well, there's technically a Kansas City in both states, and it's all part of the two-state greater Kansas City metropolitan area.

Also, I've had people who have lived within this city all their lives argue that State Line Road isn't the dividing boundary between the states. Well, where the road exists, it is. I know it changes further South, and up North the river is the dividing boundray, but if you're crossing State Line Road, you're crossing into another state.

Well, there *is* that odd little jog State Line does that takes it completely over into Kansas for a couple hundred feet at 435.  You can blame Indian Creek for that one. :D
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kherbert05 on May 28, 2013, 07:50:37 PM
I had one I can tell on myself!  A friend of mine lived in Hawaii, and I told him I always wanted to go see the Hawaii 5-0 building.  Not only is there no such police force, but the "building" used as setting for McGarrett's office isn't even a police station  ::) .

I wouldn't include TV show trivia as "something adults should know." You are completely in the clear with me.
POD to me you were saying I want to see were they film the exteriors of Hawaii 5-0, a cool touristy thing to do.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kherbert05 on May 28, 2013, 08:10:14 PM
All the X isn't part of the US, when it is reminded me of this.


The Motor Voter bill had just gone into effect. Mom, a Canadian citizen, went to renew her DL. The clerk nicely asked if Mom was registered to vote and if she wasn't would she like to register while getting her DL.


Mom realizing that the clerk was required to ask, and had no way of knowing she wasn't a citizen decided to head off the hard sell replied, "No I can't vote, I'm a Canadian Citizen not a US citizen."


You know where this is going


Clerk, "Are you sure voting is very important"
Mom, "That would be illegal the I'm not a US citizen."
Clerk, "Canada is part of the US, besides you speak really good English"
Mom - "I'm sure I have to register with immigration

Clerk - Oh you are from Mexico - but you don't have an accent.


MOm gave up the ghost and got out of there.
 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Bluenomi on May 28, 2013, 08:21:17 PM
It doesn't matter that there's twins in your husband's family, you won't be having twins.

The only twins in my family are my father's younger sisters and I'm having twins! I suspect it's just fluke but it can and does happen.

Silly question but are you a woman?  If so then there's the argument that your grandmother carried the "gene" for multiple ovulation, that gene passed to your father but he had no use for it and he then passed to you.

I just realised I misread what you wrote. I though you said your father's family not husband. Baby brain! I'll give you that fact that yes your's husbands family doesn't effect the chance of twins.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jaelle on May 28, 2013, 09:30:52 PM
A friend of mine is from Washington state. When she took her a nanny job here on the East Coast, her boss was driving her around to show her the area. They came across a fast-food place, and boss said, "That's A McDonald's. Do you have McDonalds where you're from?"

Friend replied, "Yes, sometimes the Indians stop attacking long enough for us to get out." ::)

FTR, friend is part Native American.

When we moved from NYC to the midwest when I was a teenager, I was repeatedly told that New York State = New York City and that I didn't know what I was talking about, that I was trying to "pull a fast one" when I told people that NYC is one city in the STATE of New York, which is a large state with vast tracts of wilderness area. In fact, this belief that New York State = NYC was so widespread that one of my mother's coworkers had a very disappointing honeymoon. They drove east from the midwest and when they crossed the border from PA into New York State, they were dumbfounded to not see the Empire State Building. Apparently, they spent 2 weeks driving around  New York State and never encountered NYC nor did they ever ask anyone where  New York City was, because they were so sure that they'd just see it.

Another time I had a phone operator in the US tell me that Delaware was not a state in the US, but was "someplace in England."

Oy, yes. Try explaining that until last year, I'd lived in New York state my entire life and never visited NYC. We're a seven-hour drive away even in the same state!

You learn a lot about Canada living in Buffalo/Niagara Falls. Mostly the beer (;)) but also geography, history, etc. I actually think many of us would happily adopt another country that appreciates hockey so much. :)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Optimoose Prime on May 28, 2013, 10:08:54 PM
I live in Alaska.  In a town.  We shop at Walmart and have a McDonald's.  It does not snow all year.  Now it is summer.  It was 78F today.

Also, we don't have eskimos.  We have Alaskan Natives.  They hate being called eskimos.  No one lives in an igloo.  They are emergency shelters.

Sorry, I have to go now and wash my pet moose.  >:D
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: amandaelizabeth on May 28, 2013, 10:15:34 PM
Mainly because we are going back there in a weeks time, and because the overnight temperature here was 39 degrees which is too cold for us but....... On several ocassions my husband was talking to people in Hawaii and the conversation would go something like this "oh that is a cute accent where are you from?"  "New Zealand." "On the East Coast"  No near Australia"  (That is for Americans,  usually he says, as do many of us, that Australia is an island  off the coast of NZ).  "Oh in Europe then". 

I know we are small but not insignificant I hope.  This time he has a world map on his phone with NZ in the middle.J ust in case you understand.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kareng57 on May 28, 2013, 11:01:16 PM
As a Canadian, we had to memorize the provinces and territories and their capitols.  But it is a heck of lot easier to remember 10 provinces and 2 (now 3) territories than 50 states and 2 (I think) territories.

My mom grew up in Ontario (Collingwood). When she went to school she had to learn all 50 states/capitals as well as the province info.

Canadian, here.  While we didn't have to memorize all the state capitals here, we definitely had to learn a lot of American history/geography - far more than American students would have had to learn about Canada.  Of course I'm not faulting the students here, they had no responsibility re the curriculum.  Because of that, I wouldn't fault Americans for asking about whether Quebec was part of Canada, for example.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Ereine on May 29, 2013, 12:06:15 AM
I've gotten the idea from talking to people that some Finns aren't aware that there are state capitals in America, never mind the names. I don't remember if did any American geography but there was very little memorizing of places at my school anyway. The only exception I can remember was the names and capitals of European countries. Unfortunately it was around 1991 and there were a lot of new countries.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Margo on May 29, 2013, 05:36:24 AM
I had one I can tell on myself!  A friend of mine lived in Hawaii, and I told him I always wanted to go see the Hawaii 5-0 building.  Not only is there no such police force, but the "building" used as setting for McGarrett's office isn't even a police station  ::).

I wouldn't include TV show trivia as "something adults should know." You are completely in the clear with me.

You'd be amazed how many different buildings in DC stand in for the headquarters of the FBI or CIA or NSA or whatever government agency in movies/tv shows. I'm always looking at them going "but that looks like HUD headquarters" or "I'm pretty sure that's Department of Energy". Sometimes (at least for FBI) they use the correct building, but not always.

I'm pretty sure tv and movies producers take even more freedom when it's in another country from the first target audiance.
It's always fun to spot the "well that couldn't be right, going from point A to B in less than 1h! and they did it by train! you can only take a boat there!".

Like the latest Die Hard movie where they drove from Moscow to Chernobyl in a couple of hours (based on the fact it was dark when they left, dark when they arrived and the people they were following who had flown there were still there at the time).  Even better, they managed to cross the border to the Ukraine with an international fugitive and probable assumed terrorist in the car (an assumption from previous events in the movie) and no one noticed.

Yup. One of my personal favourites in that category is the part in 'Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves'  where Robin lands near Dover and announces that they will be eating with his father in Nottingham the same evening. And then travels via the instantly recogisable Sycamore Gap on Hadrian's Wall (Dover to Nottingham is about 215 miles.  Dover to Nottingham via Hadrian's Wall is about 550 miles, and a VERY long way round...)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Sharnita on May 29, 2013, 06:08:12 AM
As a Canadian, we had to memorize the provinces and territories and their capitols.  But it is a heck of lot easier to remember 10 provinces and 2 (now 3) territories than 50 states and 2 (I think) territories.

My mom grew up in Ontario (Collingwood). When she went to school she had to learn all 50 states/capitals as well as the province info.

Canadian, here.  While we didn't have to memorize all the state capitals here, we definitely had to learn a lot of American history/geography - far more than American students would have had to learn about Canada.  Of course I'm not faulting the students here, they had no responsibility re the curriculum.  Because of that, I wouldn't fault Americans for asking about whether Quebec was part of Canada, for example.

Actually, growing up in Michigan, we had to learn a significant amount of Canadian geography. 
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Post by: AmethystAnne on May 29, 2013, 06:10:53 AM
My former son-in-law believed that anybody who lived or came from New Jersey had ties to 'the Mob'.

It's one of the requirements in order to get residency.  ;) (live in Central Jersey)

 ;D

He was serious about it. That was the reason he gave when I asked if he'd like to go with us (my DD/his wife, her sisters&brother and me) to visit my parents in northwestern NJ. He let his young son go with us. Ya know, thinking about it, he may have just wanted to have a quiet house. <shrugs shoulders>
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Post by: joraemi on May 29, 2013, 06:38:29 AM
No - you cannot play Scrabble in your hospital room just after you've had a baby.

Why would you want to???

I read an *ahem* adult-oriented story that was about exactly that.

Yeah - I have *no* idea why'd you want to from the mother's side of things. When my dad had his quadruple bypass we had to go to education classes given by a nurse educator, etc.  One of the items was, "Regarding s*x - s*x is perfectly safe, just NOT HERE.  Yes, I'm serious.". It is apparetnly not limited to the OB floors!

In case anyone is wondering, here is why you CAN'T play scrabble in the hospital after giving birth:

1. Infection. Your cervix is open after birth, anything that goes in the birth canal can push bacteria right on up into the uterus. This is BAD.

2. Tissue trauma. If it was a vaginal birth - there's all kinds of tissue trauma in the birth canal right now.  Leave it be.

3.  Sutures and/or tears in and around the birth canal.  'Nuff said.

4. If a C-section was performed, it's all the same reasons you wouldn't play scrabble immediately after you've had any other major abdominal surgery!
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Post by: Mel the Redcap on May 29, 2013, 07:35:24 AM
Australians speak English. Also, it's Au-stra-li-a, not Au-stri-a; we're the ones with the kangaroos and so on.

New Zealanders also speak English. Yes, many of them also speak Maori, but I don't think there are any Kiwis who only speak Maori.

New Zealand is not part of Australia, and vice versa. (People in Maine: "Where are you from?" Me and my sister: "New Zealand." Them: "Oh, Australia!" Us: "No, New Zealand." Them: "Yeah, Australia!" We got them to draw us a map. Apparently they thought that the North Island was a sort of peninsula off Australia's south coast, where Tasmania is. Half a dozen people drew us the same map, with only minor differences. Were they learning it in school?!)


ETA: Ooh, forgot a good one. No, Australian Aboriginals are not correctly called African-Americans! Sheesh!
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Post by: Thipu1 on May 29, 2013, 08:18:54 AM
For a while I worked with a French student who was studying in the library.  Some friends had invited her to go with them on a two week motor trip to New England. 

She was a bit concerned about what they'd be doing all that time.  It turned out that she thought New England was a small town. A trip to the atlas and a short discussion cleared that up.   
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Post by: lemonfloorwax on May 29, 2013, 08:36:43 AM

ETA: Ooh, forgot a good one. No, Australian Aboriginals are not correctly called African-Americans! Sheesh!

I recall reading a news story a few years ago where a man protested a US university's financial aid office. He was an Australian Aboriginal and refused to fill out the portion of the form concerning race. He argued he was certainly NOT Caucasian, NOT Native American, NOT Hispanic, NOT Asian, and neither African nor American.

I had a professor in college whose parents were from Egypt. He liked to joke he was African American. Technically correct though!  ;D
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Post by: Calistoga on May 29, 2013, 08:41:20 AM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.
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Post by: Asharah on May 29, 2013, 09:14:28 AM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.
Manual or electric? I could understand not knowing how to use a manual.
And with all the pop-top cans, the next generation probably will not know how to use electric.
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Post by: Luci on May 29, 2013, 09:35:25 AM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.
Manual or electric? I could understand not knowing how to use a manual.
And with all the pop-top cans, the next generation probably will not know how to use electric.

I also have a couple of hand held that take the lid off with no sharp edges, so I have to show people how to use them. My wall-mounted manual baffled a couple of people, too.

Our 22 year old neice had to teach a roommate how to clean the bathroom! Worse, the woman didn't even know the room needed to be cleaned. I guess it was just magic where she came from.
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Post by: ladyknight1 on May 29, 2013, 09:46:01 AM
No matter how wonderful and expensive it might be, your electric appliance will not work during a power outage unless you have a portable or whole house generator. Switching the appliance off and on will do no good until you have power restored.

Having a manual can opener and a small fuel-powered stove is a very good idea in hurricane territory.
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Post by: cwm on May 29, 2013, 10:34:58 AM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.
Manual or electric? I could understand not knowing how to use a manual.
And with all the pop-top cans, the next generation probably will not know how to use electric.

The only kind we have at my apartment right now is the kind you find on a keychain. My sister didn't know how to use them, it doesn't have the manual twisty bit and it's not electric. I've tried to show her how to do it, but it failed miserably. I now open the cans in the apartment. I don't know what she's going to do when I move out.
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Post by: hermanne on May 29, 2013, 10:39:38 AM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.
Manual or electric? I could understand not knowing how to use a manual.
And with all the pop-top cans, the next generation probably will not know how to use electric.

The only kind we have at my apartment right now is the kind you find on a keychain. My sister didn't know how to use them, it doesn't have the manual twisty bit and it's not electric. I've tried to show her how to do it, but it failed miserably. I now open the cans in the apartment. I don't know what she's going to do when I move out.

"A Zans for cans is very good.
Do you have a Zans for cans?
You should."

Dr. Seuss
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Post by: Petticoats on May 29, 2013, 10:49:14 AM
I had to explain to a male coworker, one who is married and has a kid, that women don't have prostates, therefore we won't cover a Prostate Specific Antigen test for a woman. Trying to be as delicate as possible, I had to explain that the prostate is part of the equipment that makes a male a male. Feeling increasingly desperate because he was still clueless, I said "It's just like a guy won't have a cervix."

When he asked me what a cervix was, I told him to ask his wife. My manager overheard my side of the conversation with her jaw open because she couldn't believe I had to explain the difference between boy bits and girl bits to a guy around my age (36ish).

I misread that as, "women don't have potatoes"  :P

A friend of mine was in her first year of med school. The topic of the tutorial happened to be human puberty or something similar, and the tutor was kind of rushing through the obvious stuff that everyone knows to get to the more important details that they would need to know as doctors. But then one guy raised his hand and interrupted...

"Hang on, did you say that during menstruation, blood comes out constantly? For days?"
"Yes, that's pretty much the biggest symptom of menstruation. Anyway-"
"No, no, I mean, constantly? Come on!"
"What do you mean? Of course it's constant; they can't just turn it off and on for convenience anymore than you can turn your heart off when you feel like it!"

The guy's jaw hit the ground. Apparently he thought it was just bloody urine. He had no idea that it occurred outside bathroom visits. I don't know if he finished med school. I've heard worse misconceptions, but not from med students.
I knew a guy who thought that too.  It was in college. He and his girlfriend were having a huge fight over playing scrabble since she did not enjoy scrabble while having her period. He kept insisting that she was being mean and lying since everyone knows that women only bleed when they go to the bathroom. It was a GREAT shock to discover to him that women are not that lucky.

I hope she dumped him with a resounding thud.
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Post by: Carotte on May 29, 2013, 10:50:35 AM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.

I made it to 25 before having to open a wine bottle. And it could have gone for longer but I knew the type of corkscrew our host had and the other girl didn't. ( weird one, would have puzzled even seasoned wine drinkers).
It's not like I had avoided using one before, I just never had to.

Same for a bottle opener, used one when I was 23 or 24.
The manual can opener I was probably 22 too (the pull-tab had gone flying through the kitchen when I tried to open it ><). It's one that doesn't have handles, looks like a scary piece of rusted metal, and if I hadn't seen someone use it before I would have been pretty puzzled.
(for a few minutes, I have a good grasp of this kind of things, and would have tried everyway it could go anyway.)
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Post by: Shalamar on May 29, 2013, 10:59:29 AM
I once asked my friend if she had a can-opener so that I could puncture a couple of holes in the top of a large can of pineapple juice.  She handed me the kind that takes off the entire can's lid.  I said "No, I need the kind that punctures holes.  Some people call it a churchkey."  She had no idea what I was talking about.  I said "Um ... it usually has a bottle opener on the opposite side?"   Nope, still no idea.
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Post by: Calistoga on May 29, 2013, 11:02:23 AM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.
Manual or electric? I could understand not knowing how to use a manual.
And with all the pop-top cans, the next generation probably will not know how to use electric.

Manual... I would be more understanding if she was confused by an electric one. I've been to her home. She doesn't have an electric can opener. I don't understand how she's been getting in to cans for 22 years without this particular issue coming up o.O
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Post by: CakeBeret on May 29, 2013, 11:04:20 AM
I once asked my friend if she had a can-opener so that I could puncture a couple of holes in the top of a large can of pineapple juice.  She handed me the kind that takes off the entire can's lid.  I said "No, I need the kind that punctures holes.  Some people call it a churchkey."  She had no idea what I was talking about.  I said "Um ... it usually has a bottle opener on the opposite side?"   Nope, still no idea.

To be fair, I'm 23 and I think I have only seen one of those once in my life, when I was about 6 at my elderly grandmother's house. They're not common in my area.
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Post by: siamesecat2965 on May 29, 2013, 11:09:44 AM
I had one I can tell on myself!  A friend of mine lived in Hawaii, and I told him I always wanted to go see the Hawaii 5-0 building.  Not only is there no such police force, but the "building" used as setting for McGarrett's office isn't even a police station  ::).

And, and I learned this from someone who was also from Hawaii, during many of the chase scenes, the streets they go up, and turn onto, and down, aren't anywhre near each other!  He told me they'd film, and then splice together to make it look better! I had no idea.
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Post by: Hmmmmm on May 29, 2013, 11:10:53 AM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.
Manual or electric? I could understand not knowing how to use a manual.
And with all the pop-top cans, the next generation probably will not know how to use electric.

The only kind we have at my apartment right now is the kind you find on a keychain. My sister didn't know how to use them, it doesn't have the manual twisty bit and it's not electric. I've tried to show her how to do it, but it failed miserably. I now open the cans in the apartment. I don't know what she's going to do when I move out.

If your talking about the type that has a pointy end and can be used to puncture holes into a can, I'll admit I have never used one like that to take a lid completely off a can. I know in theory it should work, but I've never done it or seen anyone use it that way. And I'm nearing 50, actinpvity cook and have done a ton of camping.
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Post by: siamesecat2965 on May 29, 2013, 11:14:59 AM
And I am 47 and fail miserably with electric can openers. The only one I like, and can use, is a swing-a-away manual. I've tried others but this is my favorite. thankfully I can still find them.
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Post by: mbbored on May 29, 2013, 11:21:46 AM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.
Manual or electric? I could understand not knowing how to use a manual.
And with all the pop-top cans, the next generation probably will not know how to use electric.

The only kind we have at my apartment right now is the kind you find on a keychain. My sister didn't know how to use them, it doesn't have the manual twisty bit and it's not electric. I've tried to show her how to do it, but it failed miserably. I now open the cans in the apartment. I don't know what she's going to do when I move out.

Probably buy one that she can use.
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Post by: ladyknight1 on May 29, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
I don't even own an electric can opener anymore. We have a stainless steel manual opener with comfortable plastic handles. I love that it can go in the dishwasher when it needs it.  ;)
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Post by: jedikaiti on May 29, 2013, 11:30:05 AM
I once asked my friend if she had a can-opener so that I could puncture a couple of holes in the top of a large can of pineapple juice.  She handed me the kind that takes off the entire can's lid.  I said "No, I need the kind that punctures holes.  Some people call it a churchkey."  She had no idea what I was talking about.  I said "Um ... it usually has a bottle opener on the opposite side?"   Nope, still no idea.

To be fair, I'm 23 and I think I have only seen one of those once in my life, when I was about 6 at my elderly grandmother's house. They're not common in my area.

I'd likely just be baffled because you called it a can opener. I've always called them churchkeys or bottle openers. I have only ever heard the ones that take the whole lid off referred to as can openers. Although now that I think about it, since you do use it to open a can via the punching of holes in the lid, calling it a can opener is accurate.
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Post by: jedikaiti on May 29, 2013, 11:31:46 AM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.
Manual or electric? I could understand not knowing how to use a manual.
And with all the pop-top cans, the next generation probably will not know how to use electric.

The only kind we have at my apartment right now is the kind you find on a keychain. My sister didn't know how to use them, it doesn't have the manual twisty bit and it's not electric. I've tried to show her how to do it, but it failed miserably. I now open the cans in the apartment. I don't know what she's going to do when I move out.

If your talking about the type that has a pointy end and can be used to puncture holes into a can, I'll admit I have never used one like that to take a lid completely off a can. I know in theory it should work, but I've never done it or seen anyone use it that way. And I'm nearing 50, actinpvity cook and have done a ton of camping.

cwm, are you referring to one like this? http://www.rakuten.com/prod/military-can-opener-p-51-model-two-pack/240446884.html?listingId=237704617 (http://www.rakuten.com/prod/military-can-opener-p-51-model-two-pack/240446884.html?listingId=237704617) I always think of those as army surplus can openers.
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Post by: PeterM on May 29, 2013, 11:42:46 AM
cwm, are you referring to one like this? http://www.rakuten.com/prod/military-can-opener-p-51-model-two-pack/240446884.html?listingId=237704617 (http://www.rakuten.com/prod/military-can-opener-p-51-model-two-pack/240446884.html?listingId=237704617) I always think of those as army surplus can openers.

I don't think that's the kind she means, though it may work the same way. I often see the bottle-opener type on one of the handles of cheaper manual can openers.

This is what I think of when I hear "army can opener."

http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/4909/mauldin085rn.jpg
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 29, 2013, 11:48:00 AM
Most food cans are ring pulls now anyway.
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Post by: Xandraea on May 29, 2013, 11:49:37 AM
There is a reason there is a button marked 'popcorn' on the microwave.  My house stinks so bad right now...why the 17 yr old thought it needed 5 minutes is beyond me!!!!!  And this is NOT the first time she has made it!

Funny thing though, any microwave popcorn I've ever purchased says on the package, "DO NOT use the popcorn button" right on the package.  (I do anyway, and it's always worked out fine for me)
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Post by: Luci on May 29, 2013, 11:54:00 AM
I once asked my friend if she had a can-opener so that I could puncture a couple of holes in the top of a large can of pineapple juice.  She handed me the kind that takes off the entire can's lid.  I said "No, I need the kind that punctures holes.  Some people call it a churchkey."  She had no idea what I was talking about.  I said "Um ... it usually has a bottle opener on the opposite side?"   Nope, still no idea.

To be fair, I'm 23 and I think I have only seen one of those once in my life, when I was about 6 at my elderly grandmother's house. They're not common in my area.

I'd likely just be baffled because you called it a can opener. I've always called them churchkeys or bottle openers. I have only ever heard the ones that take the whole lid off referred to as can openers. Although now that I think about it, since you do use it to open a can via the punching of holes in the lid, calling it a can opener is accurate.

I use the point to puncture the lids of juicy stuff to pour off and save the juice, then I can use a regular canopener to  take the lid off without mess.

I also use them to puncture only for broth and condensed milk.  For that, I puncture the can as much as it will go, then halfway around make a tiny puncture to let the air in for smooth pouring from the larger hole.

I honestly didn't know there is another was to do it! Maybe I should put that in Kitchen Tips thread!
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Post by: jedikaiti on May 29, 2013, 11:57:09 AM
I just always keep a very close ear on my popcorn when I pop it in a microwave - once it starts really popping, I listen for it to slow down. As soon as it slows down, I stop the microwave, let it sit for a moment, and then pull it out and give it a good shake before opening. No more burnt popcorn!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cwm on May 29, 2013, 12:15:13 PM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.
Manual or electric? I could understand not knowing how to use a manual.
And with all the pop-top cans, the next generation probably will not know how to use electric.

The only kind we have at my apartment right now is the kind you find on a keychain. My sister didn't know how to use them, it doesn't have the manual twisty bit and it's not electric. I've tried to show her how to do it, but it failed miserably. I now open the cans in the apartment. I don't know what she's going to do when I move out.

If your talking about the type that has a pointy end and can be used to puncture holes into a can, I'll admit I have never used one like that to take a lid completely off a can. I know in theory it should work, but I've never done it or seen anyone use it that way. And I'm nearing 50, actinpvity cook and have done a ton of camping.

cwm, are you referring to one like this? http://www.rakuten.com/prod/military-can-opener-p-51-model-two-pack/240446884.html?listingId=237704617 (http://www.rakuten.com/prod/military-can-opener-p-51-model-two-pack/240446884.html?listingId=237704617) I always think of those as army surplus can openers.

It's basically that, but it flips out and has a bigger "handle" end, but that's how it works. Sis can't get it to actually open the can, which I find amusing.
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Post by: Hmmmmm on May 29, 2013, 12:36:22 PM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.
Manual or electric? I could understand not knowing how to use a manual.
And with all the pop-top cans, the next generation probably will not know how to use electric.

The only kind we have at my apartment right now is the kind you find on a keychain. My sister didn't know how to use them, it doesn't have the manual twisty bit and it's not electric. I've tried to show her how to do it, but it failed miserably. I now open the cans in the apartment. I don't know what she's going to do when I move out.

If your talking about the type that has a pointy end and can be used to puncture holes into a can, I'll admit I have never used one like that to take a lid completely off a can. I know in theory it should work, but I've never done it or seen anyone use it that way. And I'm nearing 50, actinpvity cook and have done a ton of camping.

cwm, are you referring to one like this? http://www.rakuten.com/prod/military-can-opener-p-51-model-two-pack/240446884.html?listingId=237704617 (http://www.rakuten.com/prod/military-can-opener-p-51-model-two-pack/240446884.html?listingId=237704617) I always think of those as army surplus can openers.

It's basically that, but it flips out and has a bigger "handle" end, but that's how it works. Sis can't get it to actually open the can, which I find amusing.
I've never seen a can opener like that. I had to go find a video to show how it would actually work. The video said it took 38 punctures/twists  (US military standard WWII version) to open a standard can. If I were your sister I'd be investing in a $5 can opener.
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Post by: Kimblee on May 29, 2013, 12:40:26 PM
Most food cans are ring pulls now anyway.

Where do you live? Pop-top cans are not rare here, but they aren't the norm either.
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Post by: Ms_Cellany on May 29, 2013, 12:41:10 PM
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cwm, are you referring to one like this? http://www.rakuten.com/prod/military-can-opener-p-51-model-two-pack/240446884.html?listingId=237704617 (http://www.rakuten.com/prod/military-can-opener-p-51-model-two-pack/240446884.html?listingId=237704617) I always think of those as army surplus can openers.

(http://img.rakuten.com/PIC/45530768/0/1/300/45530768.jpg)

American Science & Surplus, which has a wonderful variety of stuff and hilarious catalog copy, used to carry these. They said "These are easily folded and lost."

I bought one just for the comedy value.  They work, with a lot of effort. Good for a backpack or emergency kit, but never for everyday use.

ETA that on a second look, they'd make good zipper pulls.
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 29, 2013, 12:47:01 PM
Most food cans are ring pulls now anyway.

Where do you live? Pop-top cans are not rare here, but they aren't the norm either.

UK.
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Post by: Jocelyn on May 29, 2013, 12:55:54 PM
If your talking about the type that has a pointy end and can be used to puncture holes into a can, I'll admit I have never used one like that to take a lid completely off a can. I know in theory it should work, but I've never done it or seen anyone use it that way. And I'm nearing 50, actinpvity cook and have done a ton of camping.
It works far better in theory than in practice.  >:D Basically, it's nearly impossible to have the opener so perfectly lined up that it cuts perfect wedges...they start overlapping, and...well, if you really want to know, try it yourself, and I will wait for you here.  ::)
I think it's generational. I can remember when beer and soda bottles needed a bottle opener, and motel rooms always had a bottle opener bolted to the vanity in the bathroom. There were openers with a blunted end and a pointy end, for opening bottles and cans, and they were nicknamed 'church keys' because it was considered 'not nice' to ask someone for a beer bottle opener. For some reason, you didn't say 'soda bottle opener'...and if you were of a teetotaling persuasion, you wouldn't want anyone to think you were drinking beer.
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Post by: nutraxfornerves on May 29, 2013, 01:12:42 PM
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they were nicknamed 'church keys' because it was considered 'not nice' to ask someone for a beer bottle opener.
Actually, they were called "church keys" because some of the early ones did look like a sort of key that might be used to open a church door. They were originally for opening beer bottles. Michael Quinion on church keys (http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-chu2.htm). He says that although the term first appeared in print in 1951, it goes back at least to the 1930s.

The triangular pointy end was added when beer started to be sold in cans.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_n1Jgy6WlY9E/TJqiDPcH5DI/AAAAAAAALc4/IYXoeJhlGXY/s1600/vintage+openers.jpg)

Edited to add: Beer can with instructions on how ot open it (http://www.beercanpro.com/Instructional-Flat-Top/14/)
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Post by: ladyknight1 on May 29, 2013, 01:15:56 PM
Not something that is common knowledge, but it has come in handy for me and may for you as well.

If your car starts overheating, open the windows all the way and turn the defroster on high and as hot as it will go. It only helps if the car is moving, but can get you miles down the road to a service station.
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Post by: Calistoga on May 29, 2013, 01:22:47 PM
Not something that is common knowledge, but it has come in handy for me and may for you as well.

If your car starts overheating, open the windows all the way and turn the defroster on high and as hot as it will go. It only helps if the car is moving, but can get you miles down the road to a service station.

We had a 2000 camaro that overheated on a pretty much daily basis. This was how we would lower the temp enough to get to a place where we could add water.

Also, popping the hood (not all the way obviously, but so that the latch is still holding it and there's like an inch of space) also helps. You have to drive at much slower speeds though.
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Post by: lilfox on May 29, 2013, 01:40:08 PM
I once asked my friend if she had a can-opener so that I could puncture a couple of holes in the top of a large can of pineapple juice.  She handed me the kind that takes off the entire can's lid.  I said "No, I need the kind that punctures holes.  Some people call it a churchkey."  She had no idea what I was talking about.  I said "Um ... it usually has a bottle opener on the opposite side?"   Nope, still no idea.

I've known what they look like and how to use one since I was a kid (to open cans of Hi-C or Hawaiian Punch - remember when those came in giant tin cans?).  However, I knew it as a "can-punch."   :P  Never knew it was called a churchkey until I was in college, probably.

Best solution:  manual can opener with one handle being a churchkey.  Solves everyone's problems!   ;)
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Post by: Calistoga on May 29, 2013, 01:42:15 PM
I once asked my friend if she had a can-opener so that I could puncture a couple of holes in the top of a large can of pineapple juice.  She handed me the kind that takes off the entire can's lid.  I said "No, I need the kind that punctures holes.  Some people call it a churchkey."  She had no idea what I was talking about.  I said "Um ... it usually has a bottle opener on the opposite side?"   Nope, still no idea.

I've known what they look like and how to use one since I was a kid (to open cans of Hi-C or Hawaiian Punch - remember when those came in giant tin cans?).  However, I knew it as a "can-punch."   :P  Never knew it was called a churchkey until I was in college, probably.

Best solution:  manual can opener with one handle being a churchkey.  Solves everyone's problems!   ;)

Except my SIL who started the entire can opener discussion by not knowing how to use a manual can opener.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jedikaiti on May 29, 2013, 03:00:38 PM
Not something that is common knowledge, but it has come in handy for me and may for you as well.

If your car starts overheating, open the windows all the way and turn the defroster on high and as hot as it will go. It only helps if the car is moving, but can get you miles down the road to a service station.

We had a 2000 camaro that overheated on a pretty much daily basis. This was how we would lower the temp enough to get to a place where we could add water.

Also, popping the hood (not all the way obviously, but so that the latch is still holding it and there's like an inch of space) also helps. You have to drive at much slower speeds though.

I remember being told to do all that in driver's ed, long ago. Thankfully, I have never needed that information. (I did, however, also remember "Turn INTO the spin" when it counted, though.)
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Post by: cwm on May 29, 2013, 03:07:10 PM
Not something that is common knowledge, but it has come in handy for me and may for you as well.

If your car starts overheating, open the windows all the way and turn the defroster on high and as hot as it will go. It only helps if the car is moving, but can get you miles down the road to a service station.

We had a 2000 camaro that overheated on a pretty much daily basis. This was how we would lower the temp enough to get to a place where we could add water.

Also, popping the hood (not all the way obviously, but so that the latch is still holding it and there's like an inch of space) also helps. You have to drive at much slower speeds though.

I remember being told to do all that in driver's ed, long ago. Thankfully, I have never needed that information. (I did, however, also remember "Turn INTO the spin" when it counted, though.)

Not just the defroster, any heating function works. The way the heaters work in most cars is it pulls air from outside over the engine block to heat it up, which serves to cool the engine down as well. But it works best if you're actually moving the car. I had a car overheat while I was stuck in a snowstorm. Couldn't just turn it off and walk away because I was in the middle of the road, but I was moving at about a rate of half a mile an hour. The heater did next to nothing.
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Post by: ladyknight1 on May 29, 2013, 03:23:52 PM
The reason the defroster works best for me is that it comes out of all the vents on the dash but the ones facing the seats.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: MariaE on May 29, 2013, 04:00:22 PM
I've never used (or seen) an electric can opener. I wouldn't have a clue how to use one. The ones refered to as millitary can openers are the most common around here.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Katana_Geldar on May 29, 2013, 04:35:57 PM
Interesting fact: cans have been around longer than can openers.
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Post by: Calistoga on May 29, 2013, 04:39:29 PM
Interesting fact: cans have been around longer than can openers.

I'd hope so...it would be confusing as heck if they did it the other way around.

"What's that you've got there Bob?"
"This? It's a can opener. For opening cans."
"The heck is a can, Bob?"
"Well. I don't know. But in the event that I find one, I'm going to open the heck out of it."
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Post by: Browyn on May 29, 2013, 04:47:42 PM
My Mother had a punch and cover  (http://www.etsy.com/listing/114552910/vintage-punch-n-cover-evaporated-milk) when I was a kid.  not only would it punch two holes in the lid of the evaporated milk so it would pour easily but it served as a cover when you put the rest of the milk in the fridge.
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Post by: Lynn2000 on May 29, 2013, 04:50:12 PM
Interesting fact: cans have been around longer than can openers.

I'd hope so...it would be confusing as heck if they did it the other way around.

"What's that you've got there Bob?"
"This? It's a can opener. For opening cans."
"The heck is a can, Bob?"
"Well. I don't know. But in the event that I find one, I'm going to open the heck out of it."

LOL! I was going to ask what they used to open cans before can openers. I'm guessing a big knife. At least, that's what Crocodile Dundee used, IIRC...

ETA: Reminds me of telling one of the undergrads I supervise about Crocodile Dundee. He had never heard of those movies before! Granted, they are probably older than he is. So, not so much a silly thing he ought to know, as something that made me feel really old because he didn't...

Oh, AND--if the Craigslist ad describes your dream apartment, but wants you to fill out a detailed form including your Social Security number to get more information, like the street address... it's a scam, don't do it. At least Google the person's name first before you do it (which is how we confirmed it was a scam--a list of search results saying "Bob Smith apartment scam on Craigslist").
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Post by: Piratelvr1121 on May 29, 2013, 04:54:21 PM
I don't even own an electric can opener anymore. We have a stainless steel manual opener with comfortable plastic handles. I love that it can go in the dishwasher when it needs it.  ;)

Our house came with a broken electric can opener.  Just as well, I'd actually rather use a manual, anyway. :)  I have a manual one like what you describe and it is a good one!
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Post by: scotcat60 on May 29, 2013, 05:47:38 PM
I made it to 25 before having to open a wine bottle

I'm 61 and I've never opened a wine bottle. Not have i ever loaded a dishwasher!
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Post by: lilfox on May 29, 2013, 06:07:46 PM
About credit limits - back when my parents helped my brother get his first credit card as a high school senior, they all found out the hard way that he believed the $500 limit meant he got that much to spend per month, for free.  (How awesome would that be:  "Hey, you're an adult now, have some free money!") Realizing what that first hefty bill was all about was a rude awakening.
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Post by: greencat on May 29, 2013, 06:10:58 PM
When I was a freshman in college, I moved into a house with four other people who were all in their mid-to-late 20s.  One time, my boyfriend and I had accidentally purchased some canned vegetables that weren't the type we actually liked, so we offered them to our perpetually poor roommate instead of taking them back to the store.  He did manage to figure out how to use the can opener, but...he complained about how all the vegetables were all soupy.  He wasn't pouring off the water they were canned in!

I had the opposite problem with a future roommate, who tried to pour off the liquid from a can of baked beans - that liquid is sauce! 

Also things I've had to tell roommates:

Do not use the hand dish-washing soap in the dishwasher.  This was a guy that I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt had operated a dishwasher before, because I had seen him do it in his previous dwelling.  At least the kitchen floor was pretty clean after those incidents.  He did it twice during the beginning of his time in my house, because the first time he did it I didn't realize he used the wrong soap and I thought the dishwasher malfunctioned.  The second time he did it, I knew for sure that we were out of the proper soap and was able to figure out what he did.

Take flammable and melt-able things off the stove top before you start cooking on the stove top.  Likewise, keep flammable and melt-able things off of the hot appliances like the toaster oven, the toaster, and the george foreman grill, and especially do not store those things inside the oven for any reason.  Those inflammatory incidents may have resulted in me banning the offending roommates from unsupervised use of the kitchen appliances other than the microwave. 
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Post by: Calistoga on May 29, 2013, 06:37:08 PM
When I was a freshman in college, I moved into a house with four other people who were all in their mid-to-late 20s.  One time, my boyfriend and I had accidentally purchased some canned vegetables that weren't the type we actually liked, so we offered them to our perpetually poor roommate instead of taking them back to the store.  He did manage to figure out how to use the can opener, but...he complained about how all the vegetables were all soupy.  He wasn't pouring off the water they were canned in!

I had the opposite problem with a future roommate, who tried to pour off the liquid from a can of baked beans - that liquid is sauce! 

Also things I've had to tell roommates:

Do not use the hand dish-washing soap in the dishwasher.  This was a guy that I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt had operated a dishwasher before, because I had seen him do it in his previous dwelling.  At least the kitchen floor was pretty clean after those incidents.  He did it twice during the beginning of his time in my house, because the first time he did it I didn't realize he used the wrong soap and I thought the dishwasher malfunctioned.  The second time he did it, I knew for sure that we were out of the proper soap and was able to figure out what he did.

Take flammable and melt-able things off the stove top before you start cooking on the stove top.  Likewise, keep flammable and melt-able things off of the hot appliances like the toaster oven, the toaster, and the george foreman grill, and especially do not store those things inside the oven for any reason.  Those inflammatory incidents may have resulted in me banning the offending roommates from unsupervised use of the kitchen appliances other than the microwave.

LOL! I literally just posted about the dish soap thing in the spin-off thread. DH and I just learned that one a few days ago.
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Post by: katycoo on May 29, 2013, 06:40:32 PM

ETA: Ooh, forgot a good one. No, Australian Aboriginals are not correctly called African-Americans! Sheesh!

I recall reading a news story a few years ago where a man protested a US university's financial aid office. He was an Australian Aboriginal and refused to fill out the portion of the form concerning race. He argued he was certainly NOT Caucasian, NOT Native American, NOT Hispanic, NOT Asian, and neither African nor American.

I had a professor in college whose parents were from Egypt. He liked to joke he was African American. Technically correct though!  ;D

This does also give rise to the question, what is a Middle Eastern person supposed to check? There are plenty of international students from the Middle East in the USA.
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Post by: katycoo on May 29, 2013, 06:42:11 PM
I had to teach a 22 year old woman how to use a can opener. I don't know how you get to 22 without doing that.
Manual or electric? I could understand not knowing how to use a manual.
And with all the pop-top cans, the next generation probably will not know how to use electric.

I also have a couple of hand held that take the lid off with no sharp edges, so I have to show people how to use them. My wall-mounted manual baffled a couple of people, too.
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I'd understand that here.  My mother had a wall-mounted electric can opener for years.  I've never in my life seen another one in Australia.  I wonder if it was something she brought over when we moved back from the USA?
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Post by: rose red on May 29, 2013, 06:46:56 PM
All this talk of can openers just made me nostalgic for the little key that came with certain brands of canned goods oh-so-many years ago.  Not fun when the key or metal strip breaks in the middle of opening though.
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Post by: Julian on May 29, 2013, 06:49:07 PM
The Australian Defence Forces use a similar can opener to the US, with the addition of a small spoon on one end.


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ADF_Can_Opener.jpg (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ADF_Can_Opener.jpg)

One of my ex-ADF friends told me they're commonly called Fred - for *flipping ridiculous eating device.

* Cleaned up a tad.  Army slang can be salty.
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Post by: Luci on May 29, 2013, 06:51:39 PM
All this talk of can openers just made me nostalgic for the little key that came with certain brands of canned goods oh-so-many years ago.  Not fun when the key or metal strip breaks in the middle of opening though.

Do you mean to tell me that canned corned beef and Spam don't use those anymore?

The worst was coffee that came like that. I was too young to drink coffee, but I think the inevitable spilling ot the first opening caused  the closest my mom ever came to swearing.
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Post by: Mel the Redcap on May 30, 2013, 04:04:16 AM

ETA: Ooh, forgot a good one. No, Australian Aboriginals are not correctly called African-Americans! Sheesh!

I recall reading a news story a few years ago where a man protested a US university's financial aid office. He was an Australian Aboriginal and refused to fill out the portion of the form concerning race. He argued he was certainly NOT Caucasian, NOT Native American, NOT Hispanic, NOT Asian, and neither African nor American.

I had a professor in college whose parents were from Egypt. He liked to joke he was African American. Technically correct though!  ;D

This does also give rise to the question, what is a Middle Eastern person supposed to check? There are plenty of international students from the Middle East in the USA.

"Other"?  :P

The really funny part about the person I met who called an Aboriginal "African-American" was that he was on holiday in Australia at the time. :o
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Post by: nayberry on May 30, 2013, 04:10:01 AM
All this talk of can openers just made me nostalgic for the little key that came with certain brands of canned goods oh-so-many years ago.  Not fun when the key or metal strip breaks in the middle of opening though.

Do you mean to tell me that canned corned beef and Spam don't use those anymore?

The worst was coffee that came like that. I was too young to drink coffee, but I think the inevitable spilling ot the first opening caused  the closest my mom ever came to swearing.

in the UK you do still get some corned beef with those openers
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Post by: Thipu1 on May 30, 2013, 06:11:33 AM
All this talk of can openers just made me nostalgic for the little key that came with certain brands of canned goods oh-so-many years ago.  Not fun when the key or metal strip breaks in the middle of opening though.

Ah yes.  spam and corned beef cans had these.  There were also the sardine tins that never quite opened all the way. 
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Post by: Dazi on May 30, 2013, 06:19:18 AM

ETA: Ooh, forgot a good one. No, Australian Aboriginals are not correctly called African-Americans! Sheesh!

I recall reading a news story a few years ago where a man protested a US university's financial aid office. He was an Australian Aboriginal and refused to fill out the portion of the form concerning race. He argued he was certainly NOT Caucasian, NOT Native American, NOT Hispanic, NOT Asian, and neither African nor American.

I had a professor in college whose parents were from Egypt. He liked to joke he was African American. Technically correct though!  ;D

This does also give rise to the question, what is a Middle Eastern person supposed to check? There are plenty of international students from the Middle East in the USA.

There is usually an other or none of the above option on those type of forms.
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Post by: Piratelvr1121 on May 30, 2013, 06:46:25 AM
All this talk of can openers just made me nostalgic for the little key that came with certain brands of canned goods oh-so-many years ago.  Not fun when the key or metal strip breaks in the middle of opening though.

Canned corned beef still has those keys.  :)
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Post by: Craftyone on May 30, 2013, 06:53:08 AM
Australians speak English. Also, it's Au-stra-li-a, not Au-stri-a; we're the ones with the kangaroos and so on.

New Zealanders also speak English. Yes, many of them also speak Maori, but I don't think there are any Kiwis who only speak Maori.

New Zealand is not part of Australia, and vice versa. (People in Maine: "Where are you from?" Me and my sister: "New Zealand." Them: "Oh, Australia!" Us: "No, New Zealand." Them: "Yeah, Australia!" We got them to draw us a map. Apparently they thought that the North Island was a sort of peninsula off Australia's south coast, where Tasmania is. Half a dozen people drew us the same map, with only minor differences. Were they learning it in school?!)


ETA: Ooh, forgot a good one. No, Australian Aboriginals are not correctly called African-Americans! Sheesh!

An Aussie here.  An Austrian friend (who now lives in Australia) has a fridge magnet with the map of Austria on it with a struck through kangaroo symbol on it.  Apparently a lot of visitors mistake Austria for Australia. 
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Post by: kherbert05 on May 30, 2013, 06:58:22 AM

ETA: Ooh, forgot a good one. No, Australian Aboriginals are not correctly called African-Americans! Sheesh!

I recall reading a news story a few years ago where a man protested a US university's financial aid office. He was an Australian Aboriginal and refused to fill out the portion of the form concerning race. He argued he was certainly NOT Caucasian, NOT Native American, NOT Hispanic, NOT Asian, and neither African nor American.

I had a professor in college whose parents were from Egypt. He liked to joke he was African American. Technically correct though!  ;D

This does also give rise to the question, what is a Middle Eastern person supposed to check? There are plenty of international students from the Middle East in the USA.
Our 3rd - 5th graders take a drug/safety/bullying survey at the end of the year. I would say that a larger minority if not a majority of our students are bi/multiracial. The survey doesn't give that option. Every year I had to deal with a kid that was offended by having to choose one parent over the other (that is the way most saw it).


I would just bring up their record and have them mark the same race their parents had marked. This was the first year I saw a student marked as bi/multiracial on the official paper work. I have ask the upper elementary teachers if the survey had this option this year. 

Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Pen^2 on May 30, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
All this talk of can openers just made me nostalgic for the little key that came with certain brands of canned goods oh-so-many years ago.  Not fun when the key or metal strip breaks in the middle of opening though.

Ah yes.  spam and corned beef cans had these.  There were also the sardine tins that never quite opened all the way.

Until recently I used to buy a very overly-expensive brand of sardines purely for the nostalgia of using the key.

Oh, and although not an ethnicity-related thing, on an official form I had to fill out had a "religion" bit: there was all the usual big ones, to which I don't belong, and then instead of just "other" it had "free thinker". I felt like a hippie when I ticked that box :)

I had to explain to a guy yesterday (he was late thirties) the difference between religion and ethnicity. He thought specifically that "christian", "muslim", and "Asian" were all races. I don't think he quite understood the concept of choosing or changing religion for that matter, so I guess he though it was set in stone, like race? I don't know. After fifteen minutes I gave up and resorted to, "it just is." Some people are just explanation-proof.

On the Australia thing: koalas, kangaroos, etc. are marsupials, and yes, marsupials are mammals. They give birth to their young while it's still not much more than an embryo--it has to crawl up into their pouch to continue developing. And platypuses and echidnas are monotremes. Monotremes are the only egg-laying mammals. Yes, these mammals lay eggs (they also sweat milk because they don't have nipples). A lot of people seem to adamantly think they're not mammals, but then never know what category they should apparently be in: birds? reptiles? fish? Yet they're always so clear on the "not mammals!" part...
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 30, 2013, 11:09:57 AM
Under British Law, Jews and Sikhs are a racial group (Mandla v Dowell-Lee [1983])
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Post by: cwm on May 30, 2013, 11:14:33 AM
Some people are just explanation-proof.

Oh goodness, I'm going to have to use this in my daily life. I work with a great number of people this describes...
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Post by: Pen^2 on May 30, 2013, 11:16:44 AM
Under British Law, Jews and Sikhs are a racial group (Mandla v Dowell-Lee [1983])

"Jew" can mean both the race and the religion, and the two are not always the same thing. It's a confusing synonym. So that's understandable, I guess. I don't know enough about Sikhs to comment, but that's surprising, to say the least. I hope someone can educate me on this? Google isn't helpful right now :(
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Post by: siamesecat2965 on May 30, 2013, 11:17:37 AM
I had to explain to a guy yesterday (he was late thirties) the difference between religion and ethnicity. He thought specifically that "christian", "muslim", and "Asian" were all races. I don't think he quite understood the concept of choosing or changing religion for that matter, so I guess he though it was set in stone, like race? I don't know. After fifteen minutes I gave up and resorted to, "it just is." Some people are just explanation-proof.

 

I was guilty of this one, but in my defense, I was in maybe second, or third grade. I had a friend who was Jewish, and I just couldn't wrap my head around the fact that while she was Jewish, that was her religion, NOT ethnicity. And I was stubborn enough to keep insisting she was wrong! 
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 30, 2013, 11:20:01 AM
Under British Law, Jews and Sikhs are a racial group (Mandla v Dowell-Lee [1983])

"Jew" can mean both the race and the religion, and the two are not always the same thing. It's a confusing synonym. So that's understandable, I guess. I don't know enough about Sikhs to comment, but that's surprising, to say the least. I hope someone can educate me on this? Google isn't helpful right now :(

http://www.ucu.org.uk/media/pdf/2/5/religion_1.pdf

Page 6

I am happy to chat about it via PM, but I don't want to get into legal territory here and get this thread locked.
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Post by: Stormtreader on May 30, 2013, 11:28:47 AM

 Yes, these mammals lay eggs (they also sweat milk because they don't have nipples).

Hang on, they SWEAT MILK? I knew milk is from modified sweat glands, or is the same base as sweat (or something, I just remember theyre linked and eeeeww...) but this is insane, I must away to Wikipedia to be educated! :D
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Post by: Pen^2 on May 30, 2013, 11:33:33 AM

 Yes, these mammals lay eggs (they also sweat milk because they don't have nipples).

Hang on, they SWEAT MILK? I knew milk is from modified sweat glands, or is the same base as sweat (or something, I just remember theyre linked and eeeeww...) but this is insane, I must away to Wikipedia to be educated! :D

Ha, that's an awesome response! Yes, nipples evolved from modified sweat glands in primitive mammals. You know, since if you have an animal that's already covered in handy little pores that liquid comes out of, it's easier for a few minor bits and pieces to get altered than a whole new system spontaneously develop.
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Post by: Kimblee on May 30, 2013, 11:51:37 AM
Most food cans are ring pulls now anyway.

Where do you live? Pop-top cans are not rare here, but they aren't the norm either.

UK.

Ah.

Well in Texas, pop-top cans are not the norm by any means. The only brand i can think of that uses them often is Chef Boyardee. (Canned pasta)
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Post by: ladyknight1 on May 30, 2013, 11:53:27 AM
Pop-top cans are available for soups, canned fruit, and a few other things, but not for canned vegetables, beans, small cans of chili, or tuna in my area.
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Post by: PurpleFrog on May 30, 2013, 12:25:15 PM
Most food cans are ring pulls now anyway.

Where do you live? Pop-top cans are not rare here, but they aren't the norm either.

UK.

Ah.

Well in Texas, pop-top cans are not the norm by any means. The only brand i can think of that uses them often is Chef Boyardee. (Canned pasta)

I'm also in th UK, we got one of those handheld battery operated can openers as a wedding present, I'm sure its saved our marriage, DH is a lefty and destroys manuals.
I guess the pop tops might be a brand thing, most of what we buy still needs an opener.
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 30, 2013, 12:28:54 PM
Could be - I don't do the grocery shopping.  It could be that Mr Lemur chooses the ring-pull type on purpose!
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Post by: cabbageweevil on May 30, 2013, 12:31:50 PM
On the Australia thing: koalas, kangaroos, etc. are marsupials, and yes, marsupials are mammals. They give birth to their young while it's still not much more than an embryo--it has to crawl up into their pouch to continue developing. And platypuses and echidnas are monotremes. Monotremes are the only egg-laying mammals. Yes, these mammals lay eggs (they also sweat milk because they don't have nipples). A lot of people seem to adamantly think they're not mammals, but then never know what category they should apparently be in: birds? reptiles? fish? Yet they're always so clear on the "not mammals!" part...

Somewhat tangent-going-off, as is my tendency; not long ago, I learned of a reputed long-standing tendency in biological science generally -- not totally dead even today -- toward regarding native Australian mammals overall, with disdain: marsupials seen as primitive, unsophisticated, dull, un-personable, and stupid -- greatly inferior to more-advanced placental mammals, and rightly destined to dwindle, or perish outright, as the placentals advanced.  And rather implied -- monotremes just too insane to have any right to exist, and the sooner they went extinct, the better.

I was pretty much gobsmacked to hear -- as said, only recently -- of this phenomenon.  I'm fairly elderly; but (I'm a UK citizen) for the great majority of my life -- starting from primary school -- I've overwhelmingly received the impression that Australia is a highly cool place, full of fascinating fauna found nowhere else; including a big assortment of pouched, and egg-laying, mammals -- and that all this is a fascinating and excellent thing -- which sentiments I did, and do, fully endorse. Contempt for marsupials in favour of placentals? -- I can only figure, some people just have to have hate-objects, and other categories to reckon superior to same.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Carotte on May 30, 2013, 12:35:28 PM
I think a good 90% of the cans here (France) come with pull tabs, in general those that don't are the really low price ones.

More like a 'you should have been able to figure it out in 30sec' than 'everyone know this', but I had to explain to two guys why carpenters pencil are flat, so that they don't roll away...
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: KenveeB on May 30, 2013, 12:49:06 PM
Most food cans are ring pulls now anyway.

Where do you live? Pop-top cans are not rare here, but they aren't the norm either.

UK.

Ah.

Well in Texas, pop-top cans are not the norm by any means. The only brand i can think of that uses them often is Chef Boyardee. (Canned pasta)

Also in Texas. I see pop-top cans all the time on soup, but not usually on much else.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cwm on May 30, 2013, 12:49:11 PM
I think a good 90% of the cans here (France) come with pull tabs, in general those that don't are the really low price ones.

More like a 'you should have been able to figure it out in 30sec' than 'everyone know this', but I had to explain to two guys why carpenters pencil are flat, so that they don't roll away...

My dad always got carpenters pencils from work, so growing up I always wondered why he had those silly flat pencils, and how they fit into the pencil sharpener. He explained the flat part to me, but it didn't dawn on me until much later that 1) carpenters wouldn't have the standard pull the crank 'round pencil sharpeners on the job, and 2) pencils can be sharpened using knives.

When I realized that sharpening a stick for a campfire was really no different than sharpening a pencil, in theory, I wanted to take my pocketknife to school to show off my new talent. My parents managed to dissuade me from this plan.
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Post by: cwm on May 30, 2013, 12:58:02 PM
I never thought I'd have the chance to tell this story:   I finished up my final year of college in one fulltime year, in my early 30s.  I was with a whole bunch of people who were 'adult' students, so we were all in our 30s and over.   
One class didn't have a textbook, but the syllabus was pages and pages of journal articles that we had to go look up and read.  It was a pain, but the part that made me laugh was when at least HALF of the other students (that would be 9 people) came to me to ask, 'I can't find this journal called Ibid.  Have you seen it?'

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ibid.

One of my college professors always knew when his students were having their parents write their papers for them (it happened in my school, oddly enough) because they were supposed to use the Chicago Manual of Style, but whenever a paper had a bunch of ibid in the notations, he knew they hadn't done it themselves.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Shalamar on May 30, 2013, 02:57:30 PM
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I opened the can with the can opener from a jackknife that was in my purse.

My husband always wears a fannypack, and he gets teased for it, but BOY does it come in handy sometimes.  He was at a party once where he did the same thing you mentioned, only it was a beer bottle - the cap wasn't twist-off, so he pulled out his Swiss Army Knife and got it open.  The guy whose beer it was said, impressed, "Dude, that fannypack is like your utility belt!  You're f***ing Batman!"
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Post by: jedikaiti on May 30, 2013, 02:59:26 PM
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I opened the can with the can opener from a jackknife that was in my purse.

My husband always wears a fannypack, and he gets teased for it, but BOY does it come in handy sometimes.  He was at a party once where he did the same thing you mentioned, only it was a beer bottle - the cap wasn't twist-off, so he pulled out his Swiss Army Knife and got it open.  The guy whose beer it was said, impressed, "Dude, that fannypack is like your utility belt!  You're f***ing Batman!"

My DH was known as Magic Pockets at one time for a very similar reason.
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Post by: katycoo on May 30, 2013, 07:00:36 PM
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I opened the can with the can opener from a jackknife that was in my purse.

My husband always wears a fannypack, and he gets teased for it, but BOY does it come in handy sometimes.  He was at a party once where he did the same thing you mentioned, only it was a beer bottle - the cap wasn't twist-off, so he pulled out his Swiss Army Knife and got it open.  The guy whose beer it was said, impressed, "Dude, that fannypack is like your utility belt!  You're f***ing Batman!"

And such is the wonder of many handbags.  Why is it only a novelty when men cotton on?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: BB-VA on May 30, 2013, 08:09:36 PM
Australians speak English. Also, it's Au-stra-li-a, not Au-stri-a; we're the ones with the kangaroos and so on.

New Zealanders also speak English. Yes, many of them also speak Maori, but I don't think there are any Kiwis who only speak Maori.

New Zealand is not part of Australia, and vice versa. (People in Maine: "Where are you from?" Me and my sister: "New Zealand." Them: "Oh, Australia!" Us: "No, New Zealand." Them: "Yeah, Australia!" We got them to draw us a map. Apparently they thought that the North Island was a sort of peninsula off Australia's south coast, where Tasmania is. Half a dozen people drew us the same map, with only minor differences. Were they learning it in school?!)


ETA: Ooh, forgot a good one. No, Australian Aboriginals are not correctly called African-Americans! Sheesh!

An Aussie here.  An Austrian friend (who now lives in Australia) has a fridge magnet with the map of Austria on it with a struck through kangaroo symbol on it.  Apparently a lot of visitors mistake Austria for Australia.

A coworker continuously referred to her new curtains as "Australian sheers".   She meant Austrian.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Gwywnnydd on May 31, 2013, 12:50:45 AM
About credit limits - back when my parents helped my brother get his first credit card as a high school senior, they all found out the hard way that he believed the $500 limit meant he got that much to spend per month, for free.  (How awesome would that be:  "Hey, you're an adult now, have some free money!") Realizing what that first hefty bill was all about was a rude awakening.

When I was preparing to launch into the wide world of adulthood, my dad told me a story about one of his coworkers.
CW had a son, who was not understanding why the bank kept sending him overdraft notices, as he was carefully recording his transactions in his bank book. CW asked to look at the book, in case the son's math was off somehow. After reviewing it, CW said "Well, it looks right, but I notice you don't have any cash withdrawals written down."
Son: "You mean those come out of *my* account?!"

Apparently, son had not yet grasped that the ATM was not, in fact, a magical cornucopia of cash.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Bluenomi on May 31, 2013, 01:09:19 AM
On the Australia thing: koalas, kangaroos, etc. are marsupials, and yes, marsupials are mammals. They give birth to their young while it's still not much more than an embryo--it has to crawl up into their pouch to continue developing. And platypuses and echidnas are monotremes. Monotremes are the only egg-laying mammals. Yes, these mammals lay eggs (they also sweat milk because they don't have nipples). A lot of people seem to adamantly think they're not mammals, but then never know what category they should apparently be in: birds? reptiles? fish? Yet they're always so clear on the "not mammals!" part...

Somewhat tangent-going-off, as is my tendency; not long ago, I learned of a reputed long-standing tendency in biological science generally -- not totally dead even today -- toward regarding native Australian mammals overall, with disdain: marsupials seen as primitive, unsophisticated, dull, un-personable, and stupid -- greatly inferior to more-advanced placental mammals, and rightly destined to dwindle, or perish outright, as the placentals advanced.  And rather implied -- monotremes just too insane to have any right to exist, and the sooner they went extinct, the better.

I was pretty much gobsmacked to hear -- as said, only recently -- of this phenomenon.  I'm fairly elderly; but (I'm a UK citizen) for the great majority of my life -- starting from primary school -- I've overwhelmingly received the impression that Australia is a highly cool place, full of fascinating fauna found nowhere else; including a big assortment of pouched, and egg-laying, mammals -- and that all this is a fascinating and excellent thing -- which sentiments I did, and do, fully endorse. Contempt for marsupials in favour of placentals? -- I can only figure, some people just have to have hate-objects, and other categories to reckon superior to same.

I think a run in with a fully grown male kangaroo would change their mind, those guys are huge and can be pretty scary! I can just imagine on looking down on them thinking 'so you think I'm dull?'
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Amava on May 31, 2013, 04:22:17 AM
About credit limits - back when my parents helped my brother get his first credit card as a high school senior, they all found out the hard way that he believed the $500 limit meant he got that much to spend per month, for free.  (How awesome would that be:  "Hey, you're an adult now, have some free money!") Realizing what that first hefty bill was all about was a rude awakening.

When I was preparing to launch into the wide world of adulthood, my dad told me a story about one of his coworkers.
CW had a son, who was not understanding why the bank kept sending him overdraft notices, as he was carefully recording his transactions in his bank book. CW asked to look at the book, in case the son's math was off somehow. After reviewing it, CW said "Well, it looks right, but I notice you don't have any cash withdrawals written down."
Son: "You mean those come out of *my* account?!"

Apparently, son had not yet grasped that the ATM was not, in fact, a magical cornucopia of cash.

It's good that CW sat down with his son to get to the bottom of the matter and clear up the misunderstanding before more damage was done.
It was a little late, though.

I think parents should be very aware of how they talk to their (young! preferably loooong before launching into the world of adulthood!) about "going to the bank or to the ATM to get some money".  Not to burden little children constantly with all your budgeting worries, but it doesn't hurt to mention casually how that money got in the bank in the first place and that it is not limited.

I remember asking my mother about this at a very young age ("But mommy, can't X just go to the bank to get some money?" about someone who didn't have money for something they wanted) but maybe not all kids are as inquisitive as little me was and then it's up to the parents to mention it from time to time.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: scotcat60 on May 31, 2013, 05:36:45 AM
I was guilty of this one, but in my defense, I was in maybe second, or third grade. I had a friend who was Jewish, and I just couldn't wrap my head around the fact that while she was Jewish, that was her religion, NOT ethnicity. And I was stubborn enough to keep insisting she was wrong! 

When I was at school, about 16, one of the Sixth Formers who was retaking her English O level in my class, so she was 17, had to be told that because she was a Roman Catholic, she was a Christian.

My DB and SIL met a convent school educated woman who said she was grown up before she realised Jesus was a Jew.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cabbageweevil on May 31, 2013, 05:44:42 AM
Somewhat tangent-going-off, as is my tendency; not long ago, I learned of a reputed long-standing tendency in biological science generally -- not totally dead even today -- toward regarding native Australian mammals overall, with disdain: marsupials seen as primitive, unsophisticated, dull, un-personable, and stupid -- greatly inferior to more-advanced placental mammals, and rightly destined to dwindle, or perish outright, as the placentals advanced.  And rather implied -- monotremes just too insane to have any right to exist, and the sooner they went extinct, the better.

I was pretty much gobsmacked to hear -- as said, only recently -- of this phenomenon.  I'm fairly elderly; but (I'm a UK citizen) for the great majority of my life -- starting from primary school -- I've overwhelmingly received the impression that Australia is a highly cool place, full of fascinating fauna found nowhere else; including a big assortment of pouched, and egg-laying, mammals -- and that all this is a fascinating and excellent thing -- which sentiments I did, and do, fully endorse. Contempt for marsupials in favour of placentals? -- I can only figure, some people just have to have hate-objects, and other categories to reckon superior to same.

I think a run in with a fully grown male kangaroo would change their mind, those guys are huge and can be pretty scary! I can just imagine on looking down on them thinking 'so you think I'm dull?'

"Pouches rule OK", yes?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: MommyPenguin on May 31, 2013, 07:31:01 AM
On the Australia thing: koalas, kangaroos, etc. are marsupials, and yes, marsupials are mammals. They give birth to their young while it's still not much more than an embryo--it has to crawl up into their pouch to continue developing. And platypuses and echidnas are monotremes. Monotremes are the only egg-laying mammals. Yes, these mammals lay eggs (they also sweat milk because they don't have nipples). A lot of people seem to adamantly think they're not mammals, but then never know what category they should apparently be in: birds? reptiles? fish? Yet they're always so clear on the "not mammals!" part...

My 4-year-old is going through a phase right now where she loves to pretend she's an egg (by curling up in a ball on the floor), and then she cracks open and voila! she's a cute baby animal.  She's also a big fan of kangaroos.  So we've had this conversation quite a few times.

Jenny: "Mommy, do kangaroos come from eggs?"
Me: "Nope!"
Jenny: "Oh.  Well, can we pretend they do?"
Me: "Okay."
Jenny gets into egg form.  "Oh, look, it's an egg!  What do you think is in the egg?"
Me: "I have no idea!"  (But maybe a kangaroo?  Just a guess...)
Jenny hatches.  "I'm a baby kangaroo!"  Hops around the room in a pathetic, I'm a baby kangaroo style.

I haven't had the heart to go through the whole tiny baby kangaroo needs to live in pouch, doesn't hop for a long long time, thing.  She also likes to pretend to be a giraffe (also from an egg) that eats peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and carrots.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 31, 2013, 07:42:15 AM
I think the only reason marsupials never confused me was because I watched Dot and the Kangaroo about a million times as a preschooler.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: judecat on May 31, 2013, 08:40:35 AM

And, and I learned this from someone who was also from Hawaii, during many of the chase scenes, the streets they go up, and turn onto, and down, aren't anywhre near each other!  He told me they'd film, and then splice together to make it look better! I had no idea.


I noticed this when they filmed Ladder 49 in Baltimore -- they turn a corner at the inner harbor,  and suddenly they are in north Baltimore,  and then without turning they are in east baltimore.  Even the church at the end,  the exterior is downtown,  and the interior is an entirely different church 7 or 8 blocks away.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Thipu1 on May 31, 2013, 09:25:38 AM

And, and I learned this from someone who was also from Hawaii, during many of the chase scenes, the streets they go up, and turn onto, and down, aren't anywhre near each other!  He told me they'd film, and then splice together to make it look better! I had no idea.


I noticed this when they filmed Ladder 49 in Baltimore -- they turn a corner at the inner harbor,  and suddenly they are in north Baltimore,  and then without turning they are in east baltimore.  Even the church at the end,  the exterior is downtown,  and the interior is an entirely different church 7 or 8
blocks away.

Two classic examples of this are the first 'Rocky' and 'Dressed to Kill'.

In 'Rocky' we see him doing his daily road work.  Native Philadelphians have told me that, if he took the route shown, Rocky would have been running about 30 miles a day. That's pretty heavy training.     

In 'Dressed to Kill' the exterior of the museum is the Metropolitan Museum in New York. The entry hall belongs to the Philadelphia Museum of Art. Things can get a bit confusing.   

 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: artk2002 on May 31, 2013, 09:50:14 AM

And, and I learned this from someone who was also from Hawaii, during many of the chase scenes, the streets they go up, and turn onto, and down, aren't anywhre near each other!  He told me they'd film, and then splice together to make it look better! I had no idea.


I noticed this when they filmed Ladder 49 in Baltimore -- they turn a corner at the inner harbor,  and suddenly they are in north Baltimore,  and then without turning they are in east baltimore.  Even the church at the end,  the exterior is downtown,  and the interior is an entirely different church 7 or 8
blocks away.

Two classic examples of this are the first 'Rocky' and 'Dressed to Kill'.

In 'Rocky' we see him doing his daily road work.  Native Philadelphians have told me that, if he took the route shown, Rocky would have been running about 30 miles a day. That's pretty heavy training.     

In 'Dressed to Kill' the exterior of the museum is the Metropolitan Museum in New York. The entry hall belongs to the Philadelphia Museum of Art. Things can get a bit confusing.   

There was a long-running thread in the Entertainment forum on this topic. Living in Los Angeles, I can cite dozens of scenes where stuff gets spliced together and reality gets bent. One of my favorites is the Disney "Mighty Joe Young" when the ape goes from the Griffith Observatory to the Santa Monica Pier (http://goo.gl/maps/N8Arn) in the blink of an eye. That's only 20 miles across a dense urban and suburban landscape, not to mention having to cross two (or three) freeways.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Pen^2 on May 31, 2013, 10:13:47 AM
Somewhat tangent-going-off, as is my tendency; not long ago, I learned of a reputed long-standing tendency in biological science generally -- not totally dead even today -- toward regarding native Australian mammals overall, with disdain: marsupials seen as primitive, unsophisticated, dull, un-personable, and stupid -- greatly inferior to more-advanced placental mammals, and rightly destined to dwindle, or perish outright, as the placentals advanced.  And rather implied -- monotremes just too insane to have any right to exist, and the sooner they went extinct, the better.

I was pretty much gobsmacked to hear -- as said, only recently -- of this phenomenon.  I'm fairly elderly; but (I'm a UK citizen) for the great majority of my life -- starting from primary school -- I've overwhelmingly received the impression that Australia is a highly cool place, full of fascinating fauna found nowhere else; including a big assortment of pouched, and egg-laying, mammals -- and that all this is a fascinating and excellent thing -- which sentiments I did, and do, fully endorse. Contempt for marsupials in favour of placentals? -- I can only figure, some people just have to have hate-objects, and other categories to reckon superior to same.

I've seen a number of science textbooks (school level as well as just more general) which state explicitly that marsupials aren't mammals. None originating from Australia (they couldn't get away with it!) but I suspect that's where the confusion comes from. Of course, I've also seen textbooks stating that only a few scientists accept evolution because there is no evidence to support it, so there you are.

"Mammal" as a concept was all nicely defined and everything, and then they discovered these annoyingly weird marsupials which fit all of the requirements for a mammal, but were still pretty strange. I can see why it was tempting to just push them off to the side. "They're technically mammals, but not really, you know."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Thipu1 on May 31, 2013, 10:20:26 AM
I never thought I'd have the chance to tell this story:   I finished up my final year of college in one fulltime year, in my early 30s.  I was with a whole bunch of people who were 'adult' students, so we were all in our 30s and over.   
One class didn't have a textbook, but the syllabus was pages and pages of journal articles that we had to go look up and read.  It was a pain, but the part that made me laugh was when at least HALF of the other students (that would be 9 people) came to me to ask, 'I can't find this journal called Ibid.  Have you seen it?'

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ibid.

One of my college professors always knew when his students were having their parents write their papers for them (it happened in my school, oddly enough) because they were supposed to use the
Chicago Manual of Style, but whenever a paper had a bunch of ibid in the notations, he knew they hadn't done it themselves.

In a similar vein, a Professor I knew provided his students with a list of his publications at the beginning of the class.  Of course, to curry favor, students would use as many of these references as they could in their papers. 

The kicker was that he included three titles that he never published.  If a student made reference to any of those, the paper was an automatic failure. 

Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: 2littlemonkeys on May 31, 2013, 10:29:57 AM
DH and I took a diving trip to Mexico many years ago and bought a guide book to learn more about the reefs we'd be diving.

One of the sections was about dos and don'ts while diving.  I was reading this and came across a passage that mentioned divers should not pull reef sharks out of their holes by the tail.

I remember looking incredulously at DH and said, "Why on EARTH would they need to tell people not to pull the tail of a SHARK???"

He merely said, "You'll see."

And I did.  In spite of our dive master giving us the same warnings, two people were caught doing it.  Apparently, they wanted to get a 'cool picture' of themselves with a shark.  It's a miracle the sharks didn't bite them.  According to the DM, most people do get a nasty bite. 

I'm still, "What the...WHAT?" over that, LOL.  Reef sharks will generally leave divers alone but like any wild animal, they will bite if provoked.  What would posses someone to go provoking an animal with that many teeth?
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 31, 2013, 10:38:08 AM
Warning - language NSFW

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=hu8DdY3BBYQ&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dhu8DdY3BBYQ
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Shalamar on May 31, 2013, 11:33:57 AM
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The kicker was that he included three titles that he never published.  If a student made reference to any of those, the paper was an automatic failure. 

I don't quite understand.  Why would he fail them for using those publications, even if he hadn't written them?  Wouldn't they still be good to use as reference for their papers?
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Post by: Carotte on May 31, 2013, 11:42:13 AM
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The kicker was that he included three titles that he never published.  If a student made reference to any of those, the paper was an automatic failure. 

I don't quite understand.  Why would he fail them for using those publications, even if he hadn't written them?  Wouldn't they still be good to use as reference for their papers?

By saying 'that he never published' OP could mean that paper X Y and Z never existed, weren't written nor published by the teacher or that paper X Y and Z were written by Mr. D and Dr.C, not the teacher.
Either way a student making a reference in case one used something that doesn't exist (and so lied, thus, fail), or didn't do enough work/research to credit the right person (bad grade in order, maybe not a fail, depend on the level I guess.).
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Post by: TootsNYC on May 31, 2013, 12:02:42 PM
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The kicker was that he included three titles that he never published.  If a student made reference to any of those, the paper was an automatic failure. 

I don't quite understand.  Why would he fail them for using those publications, even if he hadn't written them?  Wouldn't they still be good to use as reference for their papers?

Because they would not have been able to find them int he library to actually READ them (which they'd have to do before they could quote them)--they don't exist. And so he'd know that they'd made up anything they claimed was from that work.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Kariachi on May 31, 2013, 12:03:09 PM
I think the only reason marsupials never confused me was because I watched Dot and the Kangaroo about a million times as a preschooler.

See, I just watched/read a whole bunch of educational stuff. I was the "Mom, check it out, a book on rocks!""Mom, Steve Irwin was just talking about Komodo Dragons, can I have one?*""Mom! Check out this snake!" child. If it was educational, I had it.


*This is still a running gag in my family. If something horrible comes up on the tv (say a chupacabra or alien monster) I'll immediately ask if I can have one.
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Post by: Ms_Cellany on May 31, 2013, 12:08:07 PM
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The kicker was that he included three titles that he never published.  If a student made reference to any of those, the paper was an automatic failure. 

I don't quite understand.  Why would he fail them for using those publications, even if he hadn't written them?  Wouldn't they still be good to use as reference for their papers?

You cannot ethically refer to a publication unless you've read it. These publications didn't exist, therefore they couldn't have read them.
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Post by: Dr. F. on May 31, 2013, 12:14:25 PM
I think the only reason marsupials never confused me was because I watched Dot and the Kangaroo about a million times as a preschooler.

See, I just watched/read a whole bunch of educational stuff. I was the "Mom, check it out, a book on rocks!""Mom, Steve Irwin was just talking about Komodo Dragons, can I have one?*""Mom! Check out this snake!" child. If it was educational, I had it.


*This is still a running gag in my family. If something horrible comes up on the tv (say a chupacabra or alien monster) I'll immediately ask if I can have one.

I have a chupacabra! OK, he's a Mexican Hairless dog (Xoloitzcuintli), but most reported "chupacabras" are probably Xolos.

I call him my little chupacabra when he's being cute.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: marcel on May 31, 2013, 01:32:40 PM
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The kicker was that he included three titles that he never published.  If a student made reference to any of those, the paper was an automatic failure. 

I don't quite understand.  Why would he fail them for using those publications, even if he hadn't written them?  Wouldn't they still be good to use as reference for their papers?

Because they would not have been able to find them int he library to actually READ them (which they'd have to do before they could quote them)--they don't exist. And so he'd know that they'd made up anything they claimed was from that work.
It can be derived from context that they do not exist, but the OP only says that they are not published by the professor, not that the titles do not exist.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Shalamar on May 31, 2013, 02:10:37 PM
Yup, what marcel said.  I understood that the professor hadn't written such publications, but I thought that someone else had written them.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: SheltieMom on May 31, 2013, 02:16:55 PM
I think the only reason marsupials never confused me was because I watched Dot and the Kangaroo about a million times as a preschooler.

See, I just watched/read a whole bunch of educational stuff. I was the "Mom, check it out, a book on rocks!""Mom, Steve Irwin was just talking about Komodo Dragons, can I have one?*""Mom! Check out this snake!" child. If it was educational, I had it.


*This is still a running gag in my family. If something horrible comes up on the tv (say a chupacabra or alien monster) I'll immediately ask if I can have one.

I have a chupacabra! OK, he's a Mexican Hairless dog (Xoloitzcuintli), but most reported "chupacabras" are probably Xolos.

I call him my little chupacabra when he's being cute.

Pictures! We need pictures!
I once used that breed to win a game. We had to name things in a category that started with a certain letter. No one else knew there was a dog breed that started with an X.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Thipu1 on May 31, 2013, 02:38:13 PM
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The kicker was that he included three titles that he never published.  If a student made reference to any of those, the paper was an automatic failure. 

I don't quite understand.  Why would he fail them for using those publications, even if he hadn't written them?  Wouldn't they still be good to use as reference for their papers?

The earlier posters have it right.

 No one wrote those three publications.  They didn't exist in any way, shape or form. If one of them
 showed up in the bibliography of a student paper, the Prof knew immediately that the student hadn't
 done proper research and was lying.

Therefore, the failing grade was warranted. 

The Prof in question would never claim that he wrote something written by someone else.   
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cabbageweevil on May 31, 2013, 02:58:31 PM
I've seen a number of science textbooks (school level as well as just more general) which state explicitly that marsupials aren't mammals. None originating from Australia (they couldn't get away with it!) but I suspect that's where the confusion comes from. Of course, I've also seen textbooks stating that only a few scientists accept evolution because there is no evidence to support it, so there you are.

"Mammal" as a concept was all nicely defined and everything, and then they discovered these annoyingly weird marsupials which fit all of the requirements for a mammal, but were still pretty strange. I can see why it was tempting to just push them off to the side. "They're technically mammals, but not really, you know."

Placentals-versus-marsupials -- a matter of temperament, maybe. For some people, "weird" is good, and exciting; for others, it's untidy and annoying and to be hushed-up and obscured as far as possible.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cabbageweevil on May 31, 2013, 03:08:51 PM
I have a chupacabra! OK, he's a Mexican Hairless dog (Xoloitzcuintli), but most reported "chupacabras" are probably Xolos.

I call him my little chupacabra when he's being cute.

Pictures! We need pictures!
I once used that breed to win a game. We had to name things in a category that started with a certain letter. No one else knew there was a dog breed that started with an X.

I couldn't keep from reflecting on what a wonderful score "xoloitzcuintli" could, with luck, get you in Scrabble (the board game). However -- besides the various possible reasons for which it would likely be disallowed; I cannot see any possible real word to which seven letters could be added, to make the marvellous breed-name.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Kariachi on May 31, 2013, 03:14:33 PM
I've seen a number of science textbooks (school level as well as just more general) which state explicitly that marsupials aren't mammals. None originating from Australia (they couldn't get away with it!) but I suspect that's where the confusion comes from. Of course, I've also seen textbooks stating that only a few scientists accept evolution because there is no evidence to support it, so there you are.

"Mammal" as a concept was all nicely defined and everything, and then they discovered these annoyingly weird marsupials which fit all of the requirements for a mammal, but were still pretty strange. I can see why it was tempting to just push them off to the side. "They're technically mammals, but not really, you know."

Placentals-versus-marsupials -- a matter of temperament, maybe. For some people, "weird" is good, and exciting; for others, it's untidy and annoying and to be hushed-up and obscured as far as possible.

Nothing is untidy as long as you have enough boxes and stack them right. It's laziness, pure and simple. "We don't want to have to figure these things out, so they obviously don't matter."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Dr. F. on May 31, 2013, 03:25:29 PM
I have a chupacabra! OK, he's a Mexican Hairless dog (Xoloitzcuintli), but most reported "chupacabras" are probably Xolos.

I call him my little chupacabra when he's being cute.

Pictures! We need pictures!
I once used that breed to win a game. We had to name things in a category that started with a certain letter. No one else knew there was a dog breed that started with an X.

I couldn't keep from reflecting on what a wonderful score "xoloitzcuintli" could, with luck, get you in Scrabble (the board game). However -- besides the various possible reasons for which it would likely be disallowed; I cannot see any possible real word to which seven letters could be added, to make the marvellous breed-name.

There's a photo of him with his former foster-sister in the Cuteliness thread: http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=119442.15
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Kariachi on May 31, 2013, 03:43:45 PM
I have a chupacabra! OK, he's a Mexican Hairless dog (Xoloitzcuintli), but most reported "chupacabras" are probably Xolos.

I call him my little chupacabra when he's being cute.

Pictures! We need pictures!
I once used that breed to win a game. We had to name things in a category that started with a certain letter. No one else knew there was a dog breed that started with an X.

I couldn't keep from reflecting on what a wonderful score "xoloitzcuintli" could, with luck, get you in Scrabble (the board game). However -- besides the various possible reasons for which it would likely be disallowed; I cannot see any possible real word to which seven letters could be added, to make the marvellous breed-name.

There's a photo of him with his former foster-sister in the Cuteliness thread: http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=119442.15

Awww, he's a cute little scruffy-mutt.  :)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Pioneer on May 31, 2013, 03:49:30 PM
This is a fun thread, and I want to join the fun.

1.  Twins.  My two youngest were a 'Buy One Get Another Full Price' Deal.  (Identical.)  They were once asked, "You two are twins, right?  Are you just twins, or are you also sisters?" 

2.  Geography.  My credit card was once declined at a grocery in Omaha, Nebraska.  I asked the cashier to suspend the sale and serve the customer next in line while I called the number on the back.  The credit card rep alerted me to fraudulent activity on my card!  I live in Iowa!  Someone was using my card in Nebraska!  I asked, "Do you how close Iowa and Nebraska are to one another?"  "No, how close are they?"  Probably not my shiniest eHell moment, but I responded, "There are parts of Iowa that are IN Nebraska. It's called Carter Lake, Iowa. The river shifted after the state lines were drawn."  She restored the use of my card.

3.  Percentages & Decimals.  Joking but dead-panning, I once told the principal at my childrens' elementary school, "I just read a study that claims that 50% of school administrators graduated in the bottom half of their class."  He was horrified.  (I was, in turn, horrified.)

4.  Dumb Signs.  Once in a motel pool, along with "Don't dive in shallow end" and other random disclaimers was a new-to-us warning.  "Please do not blow your nose in the pool."  My kids were aghast and asked why the sign was there.  I said, "Well, apparently it has happened and it annoys Management."

Carry on!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Shalamar on May 31, 2013, 04:04:37 PM
I've had a weird variation on the "twin" thing -someone who thought that my girls, who were born years apart, were twins.  To be fair, he didn't know that they were born in 1994 and 1997, and when they were young, they looked quite a bit alike.  Nevertheless, I was a bit nonplussed when I ran into him in the street and he asked "How are the twins?"   I said "What are you talking about?"  He looked at me oddly and said "Your daughters.  You know."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cwm on May 31, 2013, 04:22:36 PM
My sister and I get mistaken for twins.

Or when my friend V joins us, people think that V and I are sisters and my actual sister is the friend tagging along.

The sad thing is, if you look at facial structure and looks, sis and I are the closest match. If you look at skin tone and coloration, sis and V are the closest match. The only reason they think V and I are the sisters is because we're closer in height. It's bizarre.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: twiggy on May 31, 2013, 04:51:08 PM
I've had a weird variation on the "twin" thing -someone who thought that my girls, who were born years apart, were twins.  To be fair, he didn't know that they were born in 1994 and 1997, and when they were young, they looked quite a bit alike.  Nevertheless, I was a bit nonplussed when I ran into him in the street and he asked "How are the twins?"   I said "What are you talking about?"  He looked at me oddly and said "Your daughters.  You know."

My mom's dad died when she was young and they didn't stay in touch very well with his side of the family. There are 6 kids in the family, 5 girls, 1 boy, Mom is DD3. As an adult, she ran into someone in a small town and in doing the whole "I'm so-and-so's daughter/granddaughter/aunt" it came up that Mom was Gpa's daughter and the person she was talking to was his aunt. Aunt asked Mom how the twins were, and Mom was confused because there aren't any twins in her family. Mom came back to the house and told her oldest sister about the encounter, and Oldest Sister busted up laughing. She said "you are one of the twins." Apparently their dad's family thought that either DD2/DD3 (Mom) were twins, or else DD3 (Mom)/DD4 were twins, depending on who you asked. The thing is that there are 3 years between each DD, and the family wasn't sure which 2 girls were twins, just that Mom was one of them.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on May 31, 2013, 04:56:17 PM
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The kicker was that he included three titles that he never published.  If a student made reference to any of those, the paper was an automatic failure. 

I don't quite understand.  Why would he fail them for using those publications, even if he hadn't written them?  Wouldn't they still be good to use as reference for their papers?

Because they would not have been able to find them int he library to actually READ them (which they'd have to do before they could quote them)--they don't exist. And so he'd know that they'd made up anything they claimed was from that work.
It can be derived from context that they do not exist, but the OP only says that they are not published by the professor, not that the titles do not exist.
It's a fine point, but in academia, if the citation is not correct in all points, it is a citation to an article that does not exist. It doesn't matter if the professor made up the title of the article and the journal it was published in, or if he took someone else's article and substituted his name. * The point is, Dr. Jones did not publish an article by that title in that journal, as it said in his list of publications. Before you cite an article, you are supposed to have actually READ that article, and to include it in your paper without having read it shows that you are slopping through the job of doing the research for your paper.

*I doubt any professor would take an existing article, remove the author's name, and substitute his own- this might be construed as academic dishonesty by his colleagues. It would be far easier to explain taking credit for an article that never existed, than taking credit that's due to someone else.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: RingTailedLemur on May 31, 2013, 05:34:06 PM
I don't understand how an adult could fall for that.  How can you cite an article or journal if you don't take a quotation directly from it?  We're they just making up quotations?

I'd be furious if I was chasing a non-existent article for the sake of someone's test of people's honesty.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: greencat on May 31, 2013, 06:02:35 PM
Many students will pad their papers with references to articles they didn't actually read if they have to meet a minimum number of citations for the paper (many professors impose a minimum to make their students actually do real research instead of relying solely on the textbook and/or Wikipedia.)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Thipu1 on May 31, 2013, 06:05:52 PM
He wasn't the only Prof I knew who did something like this. 

Yes, the articles were completely fictional.  He didn't claim articles written by others as his own.  The titles never existed in any way, shape or form that he knew about.   

It isn't necessary to give citations from every source consulted for background material. The lack of these fictional titles in the bibliography was not proof of honesty on the part of the part of the student.  The inclusion of one or more was proof of dishonesty.

The fact that one was supposedly co-authored by Batson D. Seeling should have been a dead give-away. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: nutraxfornerves on May 31, 2013, 07:12:33 PM
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How can you cite an article or journal if you don't take a quotation directly from it? 
In scientific writing (the only version I know) it is quite common to write something like this:

Bean dip has been shown to have beneficial effects on mental health (Jones, 1983). Or: According to Jones (1983), bean dip is effective in reducing stress during social interactions.

The bibliography would include:
Jones, John Paul, 1983, Efficacy of Bean Dip Application in Reducing Stress , J. EHellness, 34:23. [Journal of Ehellness, volume 34, page 23]

So, you make an interesting assumption, based on the title of the (fictitious) journal article, and include it in your paper, rather than actually looking up and reading articles about bean dip.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Onyx_TKD on May 31, 2013, 07:27:00 PM
I don't understand how an adult could fall for that.  How can you cite an article or journal if you don't take a quotation directly from it?  We're they just making up quotations?

I'd be furious if I was chasing a non-existent article for the sake of someone's test of people's honesty.

Citations are given for information found in a particular source, even if the source isn't directly quoted. If I write that John Smith invented the Cold Fusion Bugzapper in 1997, then I need to indicate where I got that information, even though I'm not going to quote the source's exact words. I assume that the students wrote their papers based on information from other sources, such as the professor's lectures and/or other publications of his that they actually read (or at least skimmed), and cited additional publications they hadn't read to pad out the number of citations and make it look like they'd done more research. Or they got information from a source like Wikipedia that they knew wouldn't be accepted as a respectable reference and lied to make it sound more legit without actually doing the more involved research.

As for chasing non-existent articles--there's no reason to invest a lot of time in chasing down an article supposedly written by the professor of the class. Once the initial search failed, all they had to do was say "Hey, Prof. X, I can't find your article 'Bugzappers of the 20th Century' on the ASIE* website. Do you know where I could find a copy?" For a legit article, I would expect the professor to be able to tell the student where it could be obtained (or outright give them a copy--e.g., emailing them the pdf) or at minimum double-check the syllabus to make sure the problem wasn't a typo in the reference. For a fake article, the professor can tell them the truth and they can stop chasing it.

*That's the American Society for Insect Exterminators, of course. Note: All journals, papers, inventors, and inventions mentioned in this post are fictitious. Any resemblance to real journals, papers, inventors, or inventions, living or dead, is purely coincidental.  >:D
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Dr. F. on May 31, 2013, 07:38:59 PM
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How can you cite an article or journal if you don't take a quotation directly from it? 
In scientific writing (the only version I know) it is quite common to write something like this:

Bean dip has been shown to have beneficial effects on mental health (Jones, 1983). Or: According to Jones (1983), bean dip is effective in reducing stress during social interactions.

The bibliography would include:
Jones, John Paul, 1983, Efficacy of Bean Dip Application in Reducing Stress , J. EHellness, 34:23. [Journal of Ehellness, volume 34, page 23]

So, you make an interesting assumption, based on the title of the (fictitious) journal article, and include it in your paper, rather than actually looking up and reading articles about bean dip.

I *so* want to publish this in the next volume of the Journal of Irreproducible Results! Though the Journal of EHellness is pretty cool, too. Possibly we could cite it.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on May 31, 2013, 07:58:57 PM
My oldest two for the longest time got mistaken for twins though they're 18 months apart.  It started when my middle son entered toddlerhood and the two of them were rather close in height.  In all truth, they probably could have been easily mistaken for fraternal twins.  One woman, when I said "No, they're 18 months apart" she said "Oh, they're Irish twins."

My dad told me later when I repeated the conversation, "No, Irish twins generally tend to be around 10-13 months apart."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Betelnut on May 31, 2013, 08:00:13 PM
My sister, well over the age of 40, used the term "crocodile tears" to mean really big tear drops.  I was delighted to explain to her what the term "crocodile tears" really meant.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: CrazyDaffodilLady on May 31, 2013, 09:49:25 PM
A friend mentioned a story he'd heard about a daycare worker scrubbing a child's face with a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser.  I Googled it, and it turns out there's more than one instance of it happening.  Yikes, people, it's sand paper. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Nikko-chan on May 31, 2013, 10:00:04 PM
A friend mentioned a story he'd heard about a daycare worker scrubbing a child's face with a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser.  I Googled it, and it turns out there's more than one instance of it happening.  Yikes, people, it's sand paper.

not to mention a cleaning product... what ever happened to a warm washcloth and some water (possibly soap if the little one needs it)?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on May 31, 2013, 11:17:36 PM
I don't understand how an adult could fall for that.  How can you cite an article or journal if you don't take a quotation directly from it?  We're they just making up quotations?

I'd be furious if I was chasing a non-existent article for the sake of someone's test of people's honesty.
Laziness is a powerful motivator.
So you have a source that your professor wrote that's titled something like 'The Benefits of Aerobic Dance for Senior Citizens'. You're writing a paper about aerobic dance, or seniors, so you slide in the sentence : 'Aerobic dance has been shown to be effective for senior citizens (Jones, 2005).'

You don't have to chase, these days. You just go online to Academic Index, find that you can't find the article under Professor Jones' name, and then ask him in the next class if you can get a copy of the article from him since it's not available online.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: ladyknight1 on May 31, 2013, 11:18:52 PM
DH and I took a diving trip to Mexico many years ago and bought a guide book to learn more about the reefs we'd be diving.

One of the sections was about dos and don'ts while diving.  I was reading this and came across a passage that mentioned divers should not pull reef sharks out of their holes by the tail.

I remember looking incredulously at DH and said, "Why on EARTH would they need to tell people not to pull the tail of a SHARK???"

He merely said, "You'll see."

And I did.  In spite of our dive master giving us the same warnings, two people were caught doing it.  Apparently, they wanted to get a 'cool picture' of themselves with a shark.  It's a miracle the sharks didn't bite them.  According to the DM, most people do get a nasty bite. 

I'm still, "What the...WHAT?" over that, LOL.  Reef sharks will generally leave divers alone but like any wild animal, they will bite if provoked.  What would posses someone to go provoking an animal with that many teeth?

The same people who feed alligators or throw rocks at them.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: ladyknight1 on May 31, 2013, 11:23:34 PM
Many students will pad their papers with references to articles they didn't actually read if they have to meet a minimum number of citations for the paper (many professors impose a minimum to make their students actually do real research instead of relying solely on the textbook and/or Wikipedia.)

Is it telling that all of my current classes have a maximum number of citations per paper?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on May 31, 2013, 11:27:40 PM
Many students will pad their papers with references to articles they didn't actually read if they have to meet a minimum number of citations for the paper (many professors impose a minimum to make their students actually do real research instead of relying solely on the textbook and/or Wikipedia.)

Is it telling that all of my current classes have a maximum number of citations per paper?
Yes it is. Either you have a lot of very zealous fellow students, or a lot of professors who feel obliged to check out citations.  >:D
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: ladyknight1 on May 31, 2013, 11:28:36 PM
Upper level courses, so I think my professors are weary of citations.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cwm on May 31, 2013, 11:41:47 PM
Many students will pad their papers with references to articles they didn't actually read if they have to meet a minimum number of citations for the paper (many professors impose a minimum to make their students actually do real research instead of relying solely on the textbook and/or Wikipedia.)

Is it telling that all of my current classes have a maximum number of citations per paper?

My senior paper in high school had a minimum of 5 citations needed. Compare/contrast between two books. I used Lord of the Rings (and Silmarillion and the Hobbit) against Chronicles of Narnia and the Biblical aspects therein. So with a full LotR in one book, full Narnia in another, I had 5 primary sources. I had to weed out about 40 secondary sources and still had a two page bibliography. Other kids in my class had a hard time finding the 5 sources because they read brand spanking new books that didn't have any supporting literature on it. My paper was a walk in the park, as I love reading, so reading the source material that had already been written was super amusing.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jedikaiti on June 01, 2013, 12:54:53 AM
Many students will pad their papers with references to articles they didn't actually read if they have to meet a minimum number of citations for the paper (many professors impose a minimum to make their students actually do real research instead of relying solely on the textbook and/or Wikipedia.)

Is it telling that all of my current classes have a maximum number of citations per paper?

My senior paper in high school had a minimum of 5 citations needed. Compare/contrast between two books. I used Lord of the Rings (and Silmarillion and the Hobbit) against Chronicles of Narnia and the Biblical aspects therein. So with a full LotR in one book, full Narnia in another, I had 5 primary sources. I had to weed out about 40 secondary sources and still had a two page bibliography. Other kids in my class had a hard time finding the 5 sources because they read brand spanking new books that didn't have any supporting literature on it. My paper was a walk in the park, as I love reading, so reading the source material that had already been written was super amusing.

I did mine on Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance - it took me forever to dig up the good source material, but once I did, I hit the mother lode.

In college, I once pulled up an old issue of Playboy on microfilm to get a 1 column inch mention of a film director just so I could cite it in a paper. My professor didn't even blink.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: RingTailedLemur on June 01, 2013, 03:19:18 AM
Huh.  I was thinking you always had to quote directly from whatever source you use (or give a precise page number) to prove what you are saying.

It's been a while since my masters thesis!

Thanks, all.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: marcel on June 01, 2013, 10:55:04 AM
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The kicker was that he included three titles that he never published.  If a student made reference to any of those, the paper was an automatic failure. 

I don't quite understand.  Why would he fail them for using those publications, even if he hadn't written them?  Wouldn't they still be good to use as reference for their papers?

Because they would not have been able to find them int he library to actually READ them (which they'd have to do before they could quote them)--they don't exist. And so he'd know that they'd made up anything they claimed was from that work.
It can be derived from context that they do not exist, but the OP only says that they are not published by the professor, not that the titles do not exist.
It's a fine point, but in academia, if the citation is not correct in all points, it is a citation to an article that does not exist. It doesn't matter if the professor made up the title of the article and the journal it was published in, or if he took someone else's article and substituted his name. * The point is, Dr. Jones did not publish an article by that title in that journal, as it said in his list of publications. Before you cite an article, you are supposed to have actually READ that article, and to include it in your paper without having read it shows that you are slopping through the job of doing the research for your paper.

*I doubt any professor would take an existing article, remove the author's name, and substitute his own- this might be construed as academic dishonesty by his colleagues. It would be far easier to explain taking credit for an article that never existed, than taking credit that's due to someone else.
Mine and Shalamars point has nothing to do with how quotation in academia are formulated etc. at all, are Shalamar had at first misinterpreted the OP's ambigious wording and was commenting on that. If the OP had used the wording: [qoute]The kicker was that he included three titles that do not exist[/quote] there would have been no question at all.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on June 01, 2013, 11:13:27 AM
Huh.  I was thinking you always had to quote directly from whatever source you use (or give a precise page number) to prove what you are saying.

It's been a while since my masters thesis!

Thanks, all.
Well, there are several different styles of citations. in APA style (social sciences), if you're paraphrasing you just cite the author; you only need a page number if you've making a direct quote.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Miss Tickle on June 01, 2013, 05:06:01 PM
I was out for dinner with a couple of friends Thursday night and one of them pulled out a bobby-pin and put it in her hair.

I don't know if it was here or somewhere else, but recently I learned that the "right" way to put in a bobby-pin was flat side out. Blew my mind, so I wanted to return the favour, or at least let her know it was flipped over.

Me: Oh, you put your bobby-pin in backwards.

Her: What?

Me: Your bobby-pin, the wrinkly side is out.

Her: It's not supposed to go like that? Are you sure? (She removes both pins and flips them over)

Me: No, they work better the other way around, I know, I just found out myself. Messed up, right?

Her: But, I was in Ballet! For years! I always put the pointy side out to not catch on my hair!

Me: I know, and they fell out all the time, right?

Her: Yes, but (shakes her head) you're kidding me, right? They aren't slipping!

Ten minutes later she slaps me across the arm, in that way that friends do and says,

Her: I can't believe I'm 32 and I didn't know how to put in a bobby-pin until today. They still haven't moved. Mind blown.

After the movie (so, two or three hours later) she said the same thing again. We both agreed it was a silly thing to tell an adult.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: StarFaerie on June 01, 2013, 06:29:07 PM
I was out for dinner with a couple of friends Thursday night and one of them pulled out a bobby-pin and put it in her hair.

I don't know if it was here or somewhere else, but recently I learned that the "right" way to put in a bobby-pin was flat side out. Blew my mind, so I wanted to return the favour, or at least let her know it was flipped over.

Me: Oh, you put your bobby-pin in backwards.

Her: What?

Me: Your bobby-pin, the wrinkly side is out.

Her: It's not supposed to go like that? Are you sure? (She removes both pins and flips them over)

Me: No, they work better the other way around, I know, I just found out myself. Messed up, right?

Her: But, I was in Ballet! For years! I always put the pointy side out to not catch on my hair!

Me: I know, and they fell out all the time, right?

Her: Yes, but (shakes her head) you're kidding me, right? They aren't slipping!

Ten minutes later she slaps me across the arm, in that way that friends do and says,

Her: I can't believe I'm 32 and I didn't know how to put in a bobby-pin until today. They still haven't moved. Mind blown.

After the movie (so, two or three hours later) she said the same thing again. We both agreed it was a silly thing to tell an adult.

Well you live and learn. I didn't know that. 37 years and quite a few of them doing bellet and I never knew that. Thanks for the heads up (pun intended)
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Post by: Brisvegasgal on June 01, 2013, 06:46:02 PM
I have a couple of stories.
I once had to tell another adult that touching an electric fence will hurt because it uses electricity which hurts humans as well as animals.

I had to tell the same person not to stick a knife in the still switched on toaster.

When I was living in England there were many times I was told I couldn't be Australian because I didn't sound like Crocodile Dundee.  Some people struggled to understand regional accents even though they have quiet a few in the UK despite its size.

Once I had to explain to an American that there were two different ways to measure temperature and that in Australia 40 degrees is really hot and no it's not wise to try and hike from Sydney to Perth across the middle of the country in Summer.


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Post by: greencat on June 01, 2013, 10:25:15 PM
I only recently (within the last few years) learned that the little paper cups they have to dispense condiments into at fast food places fan out into a bowl shape.  Now I routinely amaze my friends by doing just that! 
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Post by: jilly on June 02, 2013, 02:56:59 AM
I only recently (within the last few years) learned that the little paper cups they have to dispense condiments into at fast food places fan out into a bowl shape.  Now I routinely amaze my friends by doing just that!

Really??? I'm going to have to try this and see if they are the same in the UK.
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Post by: faithlessone on June 02, 2013, 03:49:54 AM
I only recently (within the last few years) learned that the little paper cups they have to dispense condiments into at fast food places fan out into a bowl shape.  Now I routinely amaze my friends by doing just that!

Really??? I'm going to have to try this and see if they are the same in the UK.

They are! My cousin showed me. :D
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Post by: AmethystAnne on June 02, 2013, 10:54:21 AM
I was out for dinner with a couple of friends Thursday night and one of them pulled out a bobby-pin and put it in her hair.

I don't know if it was here or somewhere else, but recently I learned that the "right" way to put in a bobby-pin was flat side out. Blew my mind, so I wanted to return the favour, or at least let her know it was flipped over.

<snip>

Her: I can't believe I'm 32 and I didn't know how to put in a bobby-pin until today. They still haven't moved. Mind blown.

After the movie (so, two or three hours later) she said the same thing again. We both agreed it was a silly thing to tell an adult.

I'll be 59 next month. My mind is blown too.

BTW...thank you!  ;D
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Post by: AmethystAnne on June 02, 2013, 10:56:52 AM
I only recently (within the last few years) learned that the little paper cups they have to dispense condiments into at fast food places fan out into a bowl shape.  Now I routinely amaze my friends by doing just that!

I found out last month that you can use them to make bite-size cupcakes. Who knew?
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Post by: Snooks on June 02, 2013, 11:26:59 AM
I only recently (within the last few years) learned that the little paper cups they have to dispense condiments into at fast food places fan out into a bowl shape.  Now I routinely amaze my friends by doing just that!

I found out last month that you can use them to make bite-size cupcakes. Who knew?

I thought we were still talking about hair pins.
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Post by: Elfmama on June 02, 2013, 11:51:37 AM
I once had a couple of women (middle-aged) who couldn't quite grasp that Alaska still has high and low tides even in the summer when the sun is out so many hours of the day.  I gave up explaining when one of them actually said, "Yeah, I don't get it."
That no, it is not dark in Alaska for six months, and then pop! up comes the sun and it's light for six months.
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Post by: Elfmama on June 02, 2013, 12:16:44 PM

I misread that as, "women don't have potatoes"  :P

A friend of mine was in her first year of med school. The topic of the tutorial happened to be human puberty or something similar, and the tutor was kind of rushing through the obvious stuff that everyone knows to get to the more important details that they would need to know as doctors. But then one guy raised his hand and interrupted...

"Hang on, did you say that during menstruation, blood comes out constantly? For days?"
"Yes, that's pretty much the biggest symptom of menstruation. Anyway-"
"No, no, I mean, constantly? Come on!"
"What do you mean? Of course it's constant; they can't just turn it off and on for convenience anymore than you can turn your heart off when you feel like it!"

The guy's jaw hit the ground. Apparently he thought it was just bloody urine. He had no idea that it occurred outside bathroom visits. I don't know if he finished med school. I've heard worse misconceptions, but not from med students.
I knew a guy who thought that too.  It was in college. He and his girlfriend were having a huge fight over playing scrabble since she did not enjoy scrabble while having her period. He kept insisting that she was being mean and lying since everyone knows that women only bleed when they go to the bathroom. It was a GREAT shock to discover to him that women are not that lucky.

If that were the case, why would there be a need for maxi pads and tampons?  Although I guess somebody who is that clueless really doesn't think about those things. 
Actually, that point was included in the discussion and his defense was indeed an indignant, "Well, I never thought about that! Why would i?" Oh I don't know, because that reality would contradict a belief you have and a reasonably intelligent and/or curious person would want to get to the bottom of a contradiction.

Y'know - the more I think about it, the more I can actually imagine several types of young men not being aware of this. I don't think this is so out there. Perhaps if they've had a very sheltered upbringing, or grown up in an environment where such things are kept secret, or if they've never had a girlfriend, or didn't grow up with any women in the house. I'd imagine biology lessons cover that menstruation happens, but not all of its finer plot points (although it's been an awful long time since I was in school so I could be wrong).

Med students though? Not so much of a pass :)
DH was the other way around.  Recently I had to tell him that women do not urinate through the cervix/vagina. 
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Post by: Shalamar on June 02, 2013, 12:35:31 PM
My ex thought that, too.   And another ex thought - hmm, trying to put this delicately - that all women get maximum enjoyment out of "scrabble" the same way, and if his technique wasn't doing it for me, there was something wrong with me.    ::)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: PeterM on June 02, 2013, 03:18:09 PM
I have a couple of stories.
I once had to tell another adult that touching an electric fence will hurt because it uses electricity which hurts humans as well as animals.

A couple of my friends used to delight in tormenting one of their not-so-bright brothers. Dim brother once asked if peeing on an electric fence would shock you. They assured him that no, not a chance, there's not enough of a connection, go ahead and try it!

So Dim Brother tries it, and ZAP!

Wounded, both literally and emotionally, he turns to them and says it shocked me!

No, they insist, that's all wrong, must've been a freak accident, it'd never happen twice in a row, go ahead and try it again!

Needless to say, ZAP!
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Post by: JenJay on June 02, 2013, 04:37:15 PM
My mom loves to tell the story of a friend and an electric fence. The fence was wood with electric wire running along the top so it was safe to climb through, but not over, and at the gate there was an extra couple of inches of wire sticking out. Mom climbed through and warned her friend to be careful and not touch the extra bit of wire sticking out. Friend climbed through and felt a zap on her back. She then turned around, said "I don't have my glasses on, where is it?" as it zapped her again right on the end of the nose. She then said "Oh! There it is!" and grabbed it, getting a 3rd zap. Mom was dying laughing and her friend learned to stop touching the dang wire!

When we were in 12th grade a boy asked the health teacher how a pregnant woman pees without washing the baby out. Even if the two functions shared the same tube wouldn't you think the urine would enter under the uterus?!
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Post by: snowdragon on June 02, 2013, 04:45:05 PM


When we were in 12th grade a boy asked the health teacher how a pregnant woman pees without washing the baby out. Even if the two functions shared the same tube wouldn't you think the urine would enter under the uterus?!


  When I was about 14 I had to explain that you don't pee out of the same tube that enters the uterus. to my MOTHER. I had to pull an anatomy book out to prove it.   At that point my mother had given birth 3 times.  You'd think she'd know.
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Post by: JenJay on June 02, 2013, 04:57:01 PM


When we were in 12th grade a boy asked the health teacher how a pregnant woman pees without washing the baby out. Even if the two functions shared the same tube wouldn't you think the urine would enter under the uterus?!


  When I was about 14 I had to explain that you don't pee out of the same tube that enters the uterus. to my MOTHER. I had to pull an anatomy book out to prove it.   At that point my mother had given birth 3 times.  You'd think she'd know.

Yikes!!

I just thought of another one. I used to work with a lady named Deb who shared this story with me. -

Deb's parents married when they were 13 and 15 and she was born when they were 14 and 16. That first Christmas, when Deb was about 6 months old, her parents didn't fill the stockings because they assumed Santa would do it. The next day they were upset he hadn't and mentioned the slight to Deb's grandparents who explained the deal.

The following year, when Deb was 18 months old, her parents filled the stockings and went to bed. Shortly thereafter a sneaky Deb got up and got into the stockings, moving things around, rearranging who got what, etc. When her parents got up in the morning they were convinced that Santa had in fact come, seeing as how "he" had redistributed the gifts, and apparently it took quite a while for her grandparents to convince them that it had to have been Deb.  :D
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Post by: Girlie on June 02, 2013, 05:44:33 PM
This one was with a friend in college. She was making dinner in our apartment one night - Hamburger Helper, to be exact, and I saw her dump a tray of frozen hamburger meat into a frying pan, then immediately adding the water, noodles, and seasoning. I asked her what in the world she was doing, and asked why she didn't cook the meat first. "The directions didn't say to," she argued. I pointed out that the first instruction was to "brown the meat." She had no idea that that was actually an important step. Scarily enough, this was NOT the first time she'd made one of those meals.

Of course, this was also the friend who absolutely ruined one of my pots because she honestly, truly thought that cooked canned corn was supposed to be burned black. She was forbidden from ever making corn again.

A different friend, same apartment: she just could not understand why every time the dishwasher drawer closed, the little cleaning tablet that we used would fall out of the door. It frustrated her. So her solution: glue it in, of course! It boggled her mind to discover that you could actually just throw the little tablet in.
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Post by: greencat on June 02, 2013, 06:39:50 PM
This one was with a friend in college. She was making dinner in our apartment one night - Hamburger Helper, to be exact, and I saw her dump a tray of frozen hamburger meat into a frying pan, then immediately adding the water, noodles, and seasoning. I asked her what in the world she was doing, and asked why she didn't cook the meat first. "The directions didn't say to," she argued. I pointed out that the first instruction was to "brown the meat." She had no idea that that was actually an important step. Scarily enough, this was NOT the first time she'd made one of those meals.

Of course, this was also the friend who absolutely ruined one of my pots because she honestly, truly thought that cooked canned corn was supposed to be burned black. She was forbidden from ever making corn again.

A different friend, same apartment: she just could not understand why every time the dishwasher drawer closed, the little cleaning tablet that we used would fall out of the door. It frustrated her. So her solution: glue it in, of course! It boggled her mind to discover that you could actually just throw the little tablet in.

Actually, given that she was overcooking the corn, she was probably cooking the hamburger helper long enough to cook the frozen burger - the boiling liquid takes care of that pretty well, as long as you're stirring enough to break it up as it thaws.  It just doesn't taste (or look) quite as good.  I may have done that a few times myself - I fail at patience and defrosting.
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Post by: baglady on June 02, 2013, 07:44:15 PM


When we were in 12th grade a boy asked the health teacher how a pregnant woman pees without washing the baby out. Even if the two functions shared the same tube wouldn't you think the urine would enter under the uterus?!


  When I was about 14 I had to explain that you don't pee out of the same tube that enters the uterus. to my MOTHER. I had to pull an anatomy book out to prove it.   At that point my mother had given birth 3 times.  You'd think she'd know.

When I was about 7, my mother explained to me about Aunt Flo and said "It comes out your pee part." Caused me some serious anxiety a few years later when it was time to start using tampons.

I'm going to tell one on Bagman. He got very indignant when he heard the name "XYZ Union Free School District." He interpreted "union free" as similar to "sugar free" or "smoke free," and thought they were boasting about the fact that their staff wasn't unionized. I had to explain to him that "Union" meant unified -- as in, probably a consolidation of two or more school districts -- and that "Free" meant public -- as in, tuition-free.
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Post by: aka on June 02, 2013, 08:06:58 PM
 re: US Federal Income Taxes. More than once I have heard someone state that they are losing money when their income puts them into another tax bracket.  They mistakenly believe that the highest tax rate applies to all of their income, not just the portion of the income that falls into that bracket.  It drives me nuts how many people have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the system works.

Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Yarnspinner on June 02, 2013, 08:33:47 PM


When we were in 12th grade a boy asked the health teacher how a pregnant woman pees without washing the baby out. Even if the two functions shared the same tube wouldn't you think the urine would enter under the uterus?!


  When I was about 14 I had to explain that you don't pee out of the same tube that enters the uterus. to my MOTHER. I had to pull an anatomy book out to prove it.   At that point my mother had given birth 3 times.  You'd think she'd know.

When I was about 7, my mother explained to me about Aunt Flo and said "It comes out your pee part." Caused me some serious anxiety a few years later when it was time to start using tampons.

Adding on...I admit that I was in my early teens before I realized that a baby happens only if there is some major internal contact.  This was courtesy of one of those "informational" flicks shown to girls...which showed the male and the female on opposite sides of the room.  No, seriously....on one side of the film, the male cutaway figure was shown doing his part of the process....and then the 5perm actually flew across the screen to enter the (fully clothed) woman.  A classmate whispered to me that she didn't think she was athletic enough to get married because "Are we supposed to be on our backs with everything wide open?  How long are we supposed to stay like that?  Why does everyone say 53X is fun???"

However, I did know the difference between a vaginal canal, a uterus and a urethra.  This knowledge came in handy many years later when I had to have a hysterectomy.  Not because I knew how the surgery would go but because I could explain to an adult female friend that the uterus is not removed through "the pee-pee" area. 

And as long as I am on the subject of things from the surgery, I had a male nurse and a male anesthesiologist.  Before I went into surgery, I met them both.  They were really nice although the male nurse (very young, very nervous) seemed a little on the ditzy side.  They were both already in full surgical garb, including masks. The nurse introduced them as "I am Kenneth and your anesthesiologist is Ben."

They visited me later in the day after I had come out of anesthesia and was already being a less than model patient by wanting food, darnnit!

Kenneth and Ben walked in and Kenneth said to me "Do you remember us from the surgery?"  I said "Of course, I do.  You are Kenneth the nurse and that is Ben the anesthesiologist."

"Wow," said young Kenneth "you not only remembered our names and our jobs, but you got them assigned to the right person, too!  And we were already wearing masks and everything.  How were you able to tell us apart?"

Ben rolled his eyes at me and shook his head.   I said (Still pretty drugged up)  "Because, Kenneth, you are white and Ben is African American."  At which point Ben burst out laughing and Kenneth said "Oh, I am so dumb!"
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Post by: katycoo on June 02, 2013, 08:35:08 PM
I was out for dinner with a couple of friends Thursday night and one of them pulled out a bobby-pin and put it in her hair.

I don't know if it was here or somewhere else, but recently I learned that the "right" way to put in a bobby-pin was flat side out. Blew my mind, so I wanted to return the favour, or at least let her know it was flipped over.

Me: Oh, you put your bobby-pin in backwards.

Her: What?

Me: Your bobby-pin, the wrinkly side is out.

Her: It's not supposed to go like that? Are you sure? (She removes both pins and flips them over)

Me: No, they work better the other way around, I know, I just found out myself. Messed up, right?

Her: But, I was in Ballet! For years! I always put the pointy side out to not catch on my hair!

Me: I know, and they fell out all the time, right?

Her: Yes, but (shakes her head) you're kidding me, right? They aren't slipping!

Ten minutes later she slaps me across the arm, in that way that friends do and says,

Her: I can't believe I'm 32 and I didn't know how to put in a bobby-pin until today. They still haven't moved. Mind blown.

After the movie (so, two or three hours later) she said the same thing again. We both agreed it was a silly thing to tell an adult.

I wear mine wrinkly side out, but I've never had an issue with them slipping out?
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Post by: Piratelvr1121 on June 02, 2013, 09:06:59 PM
My mother told me to not tell my grandmother (her mom) that I used tampons because she didn't feel like having the argument that tampons will NOT have an affect on a girl's virginity.  Apparently Grandma had told Mom she should forbid me from using them because I'd lose my virginity if I did. 
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Post by: Hillia on June 02, 2013, 09:13:37 PM
Adding on...I admit that I was in my early teens before I realized that a baby happens only if there is some major internal contact.  This was courtesy of one of those "informational" flicks shown to girls...which showed the male and the female on opposite sides of the room.  No, seriously....on one side of the film, the male cutaway figure was shown doing his part of the process....and then the 5perm actually flew across the screen to enter the (fully clothed) woman. 


My best friend Bonnie and I destroyed a whole 'now you're a woman' class when we were in 4th grade (late 60's).  Our whole class had seen a very whitewashed film, similar to Yarnspinner's, about how the 'man's egg' and the 'woman's egg' joined together to make a baby.  We all debated hotly at recess how that process happened - our best guess was during a kiss.  The girls were pulled out for a separate film, sponsored by the Kotex company, and we were recruited by the boys to ask this important question and bring back an answer.  So we go off to the class, see the film, whatever, and when they asked for questions, I raised my hand and asked 'How does the man's egg get to the woman's egg?'  The mothers chaperoning the class turned red and moved on to the next question.  Bonnie tried, with the same result, and neither one of us was called on for the rest of the class.

My best friend at the time had the correct info, and shared it with me, but it seemed so ridiculous that I flatly refused to believe her.
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Post by: Julian on June 02, 2013, 09:38:07 PM
Oh Hillia, that's hilarious!

It reminds me of something that happened when I was a teenager.  My sister, aged around 7 (so I would have been around 15) asked as I was cooking dinner, a question about babies and marriage.  I seem to recall it was something quite specific, like 'Do you have to be married to have babies?'  I looked toward Mother Dearest, she rolled her eyes and made an 'it's all yours' gesture.  Gee. thanks, Mum...  So I started to come up with an age appropriate explanation, then Sis cut me off with 'I know all that, but do you have to be married to do it?'  I nearly died laughing inside!

Turns out Sis had been visiting her friend, same age, who had a much older brother who'd recently been married and lived with his DW with the parents.  After they moved out, they's apparently left some 'marital instruction' books behind, and the two little girls had read them, cover to cover, and probably knew more than I did!
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Post by: ladyknight1 on June 02, 2013, 10:00:27 PM


When we were in 12th grade a boy asked the health teacher how a pregnant woman pees without washing the baby out. Even if the two functions shared the same tube wouldn't you think the urine would enter under the uterus?!


  When I was about 14 I had to explain that you don't pee out of the same tube that enters the uterus. to my MOTHER. I had to pull an anatomy book out to prove it.   At that point my mother had given birth 3 times.  You'd think she'd know.

My mother, born in the 1940's, is of the generation that believes doctors are second only to saints. She has never and will never question a doctor. Doctors told her to feed all her children formula, so that is what she did. My mother would have questioned the anatomy book if it contradicted a doctor.
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Post by: kareng57 on June 02, 2013, 10:06:23 PM
My mother told me to not tell my grandmother (her mom) that I used tampons because she didn't feel like having the argument that tampons will NOT have an affect on a girl's virginity.  Apparently Grandma had told Mom she should forbid me from using them because I'd lose my virginity if I did.


My mother still believed that - late 1970s.  When she found out that I (virgin) was using tampons, I got "oh well, if you don't care..........."
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Post by: NyaChan on June 02, 2013, 10:20:30 PM
My mom believed that in the 2000s.  Still makes her uncomfortable that I started using them. 
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Post by: nuit93 on June 02, 2013, 11:07:53 PM
My mother told me to not tell my grandmother (her mom) that I used tampons because she didn't feel like having the argument that tampons will NOT have an affect on a girl's virginity.  Apparently Grandma had told Mom she should forbid me from using them because I'd lose my virginity if I did.


My mother still believed that - late 1970s.  When she found out that I (virgin) was using tampons, I got "oh well, if you don't care..........."

My stepdad told me (at the dinner table) that I shouldn't let other people find out I was using tampons, or I'd develop a reputation.  This was in the late 90's, I had thought those attitudes died in my grandparents' time.
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Post by: katycoo on June 02, 2013, 11:09:15 PM
My mother told me to not tell my grandmother (her mom) that I used tampons because she didn't feel like having the argument that tampons will NOT have an affect on a girl's virginity.  Apparently Grandma had told Mom she should forbid me from using them because I'd lose my virginity if I did.


My mother still believed that - late 1970s.  When she found out that I (virgin) was using tampons, I got "oh well, if you don't care..........."

My stepdad told me (at the dinner table) that I shouldn't let other people find out I was using tampons, or I'd develop a reputation.  This was in the late 90's, I had thought those attitudes died in my grandparents' time.

While I'm not concerned about a "reputation" I'm not envisioning many situations where my choice of feminine hygeine products would come up...
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Post by: Minmom3 on June 02, 2013, 11:12:47 PM
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While I'm not concerned about a "reputation" I'm not envisioning many situations where my choice of feminine hygeine products would come up...

Especially with a male parental figure being part of the discussion!  Oh, NO, no, no, no.  Mortification ensues!   :o
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Post by: nuit93 on June 02, 2013, 11:16:37 PM
My mother told me to not tell my grandmother (her mom) that I used tampons because she didn't feel like having the argument that tampons will NOT have an affect on a girl's virginity.  Apparently Grandma had told Mom she should forbid me from using them because I'd lose my virginity if I did.


My mother still believed that - late 1970s.  When she found out that I (virgin) was using tampons, I got "oh well, if you don't care..........."

My stepdad told me (at the dinner table) that I shouldn't let other people find out I was using tampons, or I'd develop a reputation.  This was in the late 90's, I had thought those attitudes died in my grandparents' time.

While I'm not concerned about a "reputation" I'm not envisioning many situations where my choice of feminine hygeine products would come up...

Short of someone seeing me buy them at the store or one falling out of my purse, I couldn't either.

I just pointed out that we learned otherwise in health class several years prior and that yes, the boys and girls were learning about this together in the same class.

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Post by: nuit93 on June 02, 2013, 11:17:28 PM
clipped

While I'm not concerned about a "reputation" I'm not envisioning many situations where my choice of feminine hygeine products would come up...

Especially with a male parental figure being part of the discussion!  Oh, NO, no, no, no.  Mortification ensues!   :o

To say he had boundary issues would be a bit of an understatement...
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Post by: Miss Tickle on June 03, 2013, 12:37:44 AM
I was out for dinner with a couple of friends Thursday night and one of them pulled out a bobby-pin and put it in her hair.

I don't know if it was here or somewhere else, but recently I learned that the "right" way to put in a bobby-pin was flat side out. Blew my mind, so I wanted to return the favour, or at least let her know it was flipped over.

Me: Oh, you put your bobby-pin in backwards.

Her: What?

Me: Your bobby-pin, the wrinkly side is out.

Her: It's not supposed to go like that? Are you sure? (She removes both pins and flips them over)

Me: No, they work better the other way around, I know, I just found out myself. Messed up, right?

Her: But, I was in Ballet! For years! I always put the pointy side out to not catch on my hair!

Me: I know, and they fell out all the time, right?

Her: Yes, but (shakes her head) you're kidding me, right? They aren't slipping!

Ten minutes later she slaps me across the arm, in that way that friends do and says,

Her: I can't believe I'm 32 and I didn't know how to put in a bobby-pin until today. They still haven't moved. Mind blown.

After the movie (so, two or three hours later) she said the same thing again. We both agreed it was a silly thing to tell an adult.

I wear mine wrinkly side out, but I've never had an issue with them slipping out?

I don't know about you, but my friend and I both have thin, fine, straight hair. We both noticed right away the difference in the feel of the bobby-pins, and how long they stayed in place without hairspray or anything.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: gypsy77 on June 03, 2013, 02:08:48 AM
re: US Federal Income Taxes. More than once I have heard someone state that they are losing money when their income puts them into another tax bracket.  They mistakenly believe that the highest tax rate applies to all of their income, not just the portion of the income that falls into that bracket.  It drives me nuts how many people have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the system works.

 Are you sure they're not referring to the phenomenon where your raise bumos you up to the next tax bracket,  but the higher rate of taxation makes your actual take home pay less?

For example, if I make $100, and get taxed $10 out of that, I take home $90. I get a raise to $105, and now get taxed $20, so my take home becomes $85.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Raintree on June 03, 2013, 02:25:50 AM
I was a "mature student" and when I started out, not everyone had computers. I finally got a computer about halfway through my studies, having only used the library ones and finally finding it necessary to have one at home. In short, when I started out it really wasn't all that weird not to own a computer, but by the time I graduated, it had become pretty much mandatory.

So during my studies I expressed surprise to a much younger classmate that with one click of the mouse you could see how many words you'd typed in a Word document (I'd actually been using Word for a few years already too). Useful to know when you're required to write, say, a 1000-word paper.  She was indignant: "How could you not know that? I mean, how else would you know how many words you had?"

I explained that the standard way before had been to count out the average number of words in a line, and lines per page, and do the math for a pretty close estimate. And that is what I'd been doing all along. She thought that was ridiculous, and nobody would ever have done it that way. I had to argue with her that yes, really, people had done it that way for years.

So really we each had a silly thing to explain to each other that adults should know. She had to explain to me that you don't have to physically count words when typing something on a computer, and I had to explain to her that people had managed just fine before without computers by the method described above.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on June 03, 2013, 05:50:38 AM
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While I'm not concerned about a "reputation" I'm not envisioning many situations where my choice of feminine hygeine products would come up...

Especially with a male parental figure being part of the discussion!  Oh, NO, no, no, no.  Mortification ensues!   :o

To say he had boundary issues would be a bit of an understatement...

My dad told me on the way up to my aunt's wedding that I shouldn't dance because it was my time of the month. My mom told me later "Ignore him." 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: stitchygreyanonymouse on June 03, 2013, 08:58:36 AM
re: US Federal Income Taxes. More than once I have heard someone state that they are losing money when their income puts them into another tax bracket.  They mistakenly believe that the highest tax rate applies to all of their income, not just the portion of the income that falls into that bracket.  It drives me nuts how many people have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the system works.

 Are you sure they're not referring to the phenomenon where your raise bumos you up to the next tax bracket,  but the higher rate of taxation makes your actual take home pay less?

For example, if I make $100, and get taxed $10 out of that, I take home $90. I get a raise to $105, and now get taxed $20, so my take home becomes $85.

… you’re exhibiting what aka was talking about. They way our federal taxes work, it would be:

10% tax on $100 = $10, so $90 take home. 20% tax on > $100 (everything above the tax bracket below), but still 10% on <= $100 = $10 + $1 (20% of $5) = $94 take home.

The only time a tax bracket bump might result in less take home pay is if the bulk of your income is bonus-based, because bonuses are generally withheld at the highest rate (reconciled when you do your taxes the following year). So, in theory, you might see a lower take home if your bonus causes your periodic income to be in a higher bracket. Your base pay is still being taxed at the same rate as it always is.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: camlan on June 03, 2013, 09:44:01 AM
I was a "mature student" and when I started out, not everyone had computers. I finally got a computer about halfway through my studies, having only used the library ones and finally finding it necessary to have one at home. In short, when I started out it really wasn't all that weird not to own a computer, but by the time I graduated, it had become pretty much mandatory.

So during my studies I expressed surprise to a much younger classmate that with one click of the mouse you could see how many words you'd typed in a Word document (I'd actually been using Word for a few years already too). Useful to know when you're required to write, say, a 1000-word paper.  She was indignant: "How could you not know that? I mean, how else would you know how many words you had?"

I explained that the standard way before had been to count out the average number of words in a line, and lines per page, and do the math for a pretty close estimate. And that is what I'd been doing all along. She thought that was ridiculous, and nobody would ever have done it that way. I had to argue with her that yes, really, people had done it that way for years.

So really we each had a silly thing to explain to each other that adults should know. She had to explain to me that you don't have to physically count words when typing something on a computer, and I had to explain to her that people had managed just fine before without computers by the method described above.

When I took typing way back in 1976, we were taught the average typed page had approximately 250 words on it, in pica type. Elite type had a few more. (Pica=12 point font; Elite=10 point font.) I was also taught how to center a title on the page (count the letters and spaces in the title, divide by 2, and then backspace that number of spaces from the exact center of the page), and how to make a template so that you could stop typing with enough room left at the bottom of the page for the footnotes that belonged on that page.

So much easier to click on the "center" button, and now standards have changed so that footnotes are all at the end of the document.

I've learned so much, that is now totally useless.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Luci on June 03, 2013, 09:50:39 AM
I've learned so much, that is now totally useless.

I was going through some really old papers the other day and came across the guide I use to put under the paper I was typing so I could get my footnotes lined up properly! I'm not even sure I could use it today if I had to.

That, and slide rules!

But my very favorite advancement it how easy it is to go back and correct an error. Best thing since Erasable paper and Whiteout.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: camlan on June 03, 2013, 09:56:11 AM
I've learned so much, that is now totally useless.

I was going through some really old papers the other day and came across the guide I use to put under the paper I was typing so I could get my footnotes lined up properly! I'm not even sure I could use it today if I had to.

That, and slide rules!

But my very favorite advancement it how easy it is to go back and correct an error. Best thing since Erasable paper and Whiteout.

My vote would be for spellcheck. But leaving Erasable paper behind is a close second.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Elfmama on June 03, 2013, 10:53:36 AM

Adding on...I admit that I was in my early teens before I realized that a baby happens only if there is some major internal contact.  This was courtesy of one of those "informational" flicks shown to girls...which showed the male and the female on opposite sides of the room.  No, seriously....on one side of the film, the male cutaway figure was shown doing his part of the process....and then the 5perm actually flew across the screen to enter the (fully clothed) woman. 

I am reminded of those medieval/Renaissance paintings, that show the Virgin Mary conceiving through her EAR.  Because when God said the Word, the Word flew into her ear, right? Nothing so messy as this slot A, tab B, and stuff left behind...

(http://mozilla0211.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/annunciation.jpg)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on June 03, 2013, 11:02:08 AM
While I'm not concerned about a "reputation" I'm not envisioning many situations where my choice of feminine hygeine products would come up...
When you're digging around in your purse, and a tampon flips out?
When your cat comes down the hallway, twirling a baton? >:D
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on June 03, 2013, 11:59:02 AM
While I'm not concerned about a "reputation" I'm not envisioning many situations where my choice of feminine hygeine products would come up...
When you're digging around in your purse, and a tampon flips out?
When your cat comes down the hallway, twirling a baton? >:D

My friend once told me about her cat walking into her parlor with a sanitary napkin in his mouth.  Thankfully she lives alone and no one was visiting her at the time or she would have been really embarrassed.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Blondie on June 03, 2013, 12:29:22 PM
I just had one- A friend is house hunting and told me that he didn't need a dishwasher as he had never used one- his parents were "Morally Opposed" to them.

Blonde quick thought behind the scenes- "Morally Opposed? He must be using that flippantly- no one is morally opposed to a dishwasher, well maybe Amish, but that should be it, I know he isn't Amish, he is Jewish, is there a chance that they are really Orthodox, no... I have been to the house, one of everything- oh quick! Do something, laugh, he must be using it flippantly and is staring at me now expecting an answer... "

"Hahahaha"

Cue his blank look. "Whats funny?"

More Blonde thought- "Oh no. They really are actually morally opposed to a dishwasher..."

So I asked. Turns out he had no idea what it was to be morally opposed to something. He is smart, knows the meaning of both words, but never put it together for meanings sake. He thought it meant to just not do it. Want to lose weight? Morally opposed to calories. Don't like cabbage? Morally opposed to its existence. It did make me wonder what other wonderful conversations I had missed...


Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Twik on June 03, 2013, 12:35:27 PM
When I took typing way back in 1976, we were taught the average typed page had approximately 250 words on it, in pica type. Elite type had a few more. (Pica=12 point font; Elite=10 point font.) I was also taught how to center a title on the page (count the letters and spaces in the title, divide by 2, and then backspace that number of spaces from the exact center of the page), and how to make a template so that you could stop typing with enough room left at the bottom of the page for the footnotes that belonged on that page.

So much easier to click on the "center" button, and now standards have changed so that footnotes are all at the end of the document.

I've learned so much, that is now totally useless.

Yes, but I bet you know how to tab. I have seen major blow-ups in the office about misaligned text, because people would simply space things over, instead of setting tabs. It seemed to me that people who had learned on a typewriter usually had been taught how to set tabs, while people who had started keyboarding (without specific training in word processing) had no idea what they were for.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Twik on June 03, 2013, 12:38:52 PM

Adding on...I admit that I was in my early teens before I realized that a baby happens only if there is some major internal contact.  This was courtesy of one of those "informational" flicks shown to girls...which showed the male and the female on opposite sides of the room.  No, seriously....on one side of the film, the male cutaway figure was shown doing his part of the process....and then the 5perm actually flew across the screen to enter the (fully clothed) woman. 

I am reminded of those medieval/Renaissance paintings, that show the Virgin Mary conceiving through her EAR.  Because when God said the Word, the Word flew into her ear, right? Nothing so messy as this slot A, tab B, and stuff left behind...

(http://mozilla0211.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/annunciation.jpg)

Even that makes more sense (and is less likely to terrify tweenagers) than pregnancy resulting from two humans on opposite sides of the room!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Shalamar on June 03, 2013, 12:39:16 PM
YES.  That drives me crazy.  Misaligned text is one of my pet peeves!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Ereine on June 03, 2013, 01:02:57 PM
I do a lot of typesetting and have discovered that most people are pretty bad at typing. The best was a woman who had probably trained on typewriters and hit Enter at the end of each line. There are also people who do first-line indents with spaces and people who manually hyphenate.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: oogyda on June 03, 2013, 01:48:02 PM
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While I'm not concerned about a "reputation" I'm not envisioning many situations where my choice of feminine hygeine products would come up...

Especially with a male parental figure being part of the discussion!  Oh, NO, no, no, no.  Mortification ensues!   :o

My dad had to deal with me during my second "time" alone and in a semi traveling several states.  He was very understanding and quite knowledgable.  I appreciated that. 

Oogydad put up with the discussions since he was the only male.  I would hate to think our girls would be mortified discussing anything with their father. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: blueyzca01 on June 03, 2013, 01:50:24 PM
Oh Hillia, that's hilarious!

It reminds me of something that happened when I was a teenager.  My sister, aged around 7 (so I would have been around 15) asked as I was cooking dinner, a question about babies and marriage.  I seem to recall it was something quite specific, like 'Do you have to be married to have babies?'  I looked toward Mother Dearest, she rolled her eyes and made an 'it's all yours' gesture.  Gee. thanks, Mum...  So I started to come up with an age appropriate explanation, then Sis cut me off with 'I know all that, but do you have to be married to do it?'  I nearly died laughing inside!

Turns out Sis had been visiting her friend, same age, who had a much older brother who'd recently been married and lived with his DW with the parents.  After they moved out, they's apparently left some 'marital instruction' books behind, and the two little girls had read them, cover to cover, and probably knew more than I did!

Growing up Catholic in the 70s, I had it drilled into my head that only "a husband and a wife" can make a baby.  I continually asked the adults around me "How does your body know that you're married??" And no one had a good answer...mostly I remember them saying, "It just does."

And I really remember when I announced to my mother that I finally realized that 'you don't have to be married to get pregnant!"  Her response?

"OH YES YOU DO!!!!!"
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: PeterM on June 03, 2013, 02:10:25 PM
Growing up Catholic in the 70s, I had it drilled into my head that only "a husband and a wife" can make a baby.  I continually asked the adults around me "How does your body know that you're married??" And no one had a good answer...mostly I remember them saying, "It just does."

And I really remember when I announced to my mother that I finally realized that 'you don't have to be married to get pregnant!"  Her response?

"OH YES YOU DO!!!!!"

This kind of thing drives me insane. It's exactly the same as all the people who honest and truly believe you can't get pregnant your first time, or you can't catch an STD if you're a "good girl" or whatever. Biology doesn't care about morality, at all, and pretending it does is criminally negligent.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Arrynne on June 03, 2013, 02:58:59 PM
I use the point to puncture the lids of juicy stuff to pour off and save the juice, then I can use a regular canopener to  take the lid off without mess.

I also use them to puncture only for broth and condensed milk.  For that, I puncture the can as much as it will go, then halfway around make a tiny puncture to let the air in for smooth pouring from the larger hole.

I honestly didn't know there is another was to do it! Maybe I should put that in Kitchen Tips thread!

I never though of puncturing the lid to drain off the juice and then opening the can.  I always undo the lid then hold it in place while the liquid drains off.  I like your way better.  I'll need to try that next time I open a can of pineapple. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Arrynne on June 03, 2013, 03:02:28 PM
Not something that is common knowledge, but it has come in handy for me and may for you as well.

If your car starts overheating, open the windows all the way and turn the defroster on high and as hot as it will go. It only helps if the car is moving, but can get you miles down the road to a service station.

Slight correction.  Turn the -HEATER- on high.   The defroster will turn on the A/C in some cars and compound your overheating issue. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Free Range Hippy Chick on June 03, 2013, 05:07:09 PM
When my DH, aged 50, had his first pair of reading glasses, he suddenly learned that all the things I had been saying to him for 30 years (and that I had known for 45 years) were TRUE! You can't look for your glasses if you haven't got your glasses on... your glasses are always in the other jacket/handbag/room/side of the bed/whatever...

And my personal favourite: that the reason it seems to be unusually dark in here is that the balsam infused tissues are not good for cleaning lenses with, and will leave you peering through a thick greasy fog.

Welcome to my world, darling.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: snowflake on June 03, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
While I'm not concerned about a "reputation" I'm not envisioning many situations where my choice of feminine hygeine products would come up...
When you're digging around in your purse, and a tampon flips out?
When your cat comes down the hallway, twirling a baton? >:D

Just to interject that a few months ago my toddler grabbed a tampon out of my purse in a public place.  He was dancing around while chewing on it.  Apparently, they make great teethers!  I'm pretty open so I wasn't embarrassed.  I was mostly peeved that he wouldn't pose well with it so I could get a picture.

Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on June 03, 2013, 05:39:35 PM
Tampons are soo the purrfectly sized cat toy, I've even seen cat toys that appear to be tampon tubes with pompoms glued on the ends. Hmmm...maybe I should just tape some tubes so they don't collapse, spray paint them, and use them as cat toys!
I might add that since my pets had ME spayed, I no longer have any other use for them...
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jedikaiti on June 03, 2013, 05:43:28 PM
I'd skip the spray paint, it could be toxic to the fuzzy ones.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: snowflake on June 03, 2013, 05:55:34 PM
In the early 90s, I got that attitude from a roommate.  Her mother had told her that her husband would dump her on their wedding night if he discovered she had been wearing tampons.  Because how could he be sure?

My own mother told me that periods were so distressing to a proper man.  She said a man who was at ease with menstruation was sleazy and no-good.  And then at the tender age of 17, I had a boyfriend who told me to put up my feet while he ran to the store for me to get more tampons.  Mom was horrified, but it's hard not to get over that hang-up considering the circumstances.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Bluenomi on June 03, 2013, 05:59:03 PM
Oh Hillia, that's hilarious!

It reminds me of something that happened when I was a teenager.  My sister, aged around 7 (so I would have been around 15) asked as I was cooking dinner, a question about babies and marriage.  I seem to recall it was something quite specific, like 'Do you have to be married to have babies?'  I looked toward Mother Dearest, she rolled her eyes and made an 'it's all yours' gesture.  Gee. thanks, Mum...  So I started to come up with an age appropriate explanation, then Sis cut me off with 'I know all that, but do you have to be married to do it?'  I nearly died laughing inside!

Turns out Sis had been visiting her friend, same age, who had a much older brother who'd recently been married and lived with his DW with the parents.  After they moved out, they's apparently left some 'marital instruction' books behind, and the two little girls had read them, cover to cover, and probably knew more than I did!

Growing up Catholic in the 70s, I had it drilled into my head that only "a husband and a wife" can make a baby.  I continually asked the adults around me "How does your body know that you're married??" And no one had a good answer...mostly I remember them saying, "It just does."

And I really remember when I announced to my mother that I finally realized that 'you don't have to be married to get pregnant!"  Her response?

"OH YES YOU DO!!!!!"

My youngest sister just assumed you needed to be married to have a baby. She was flower girl for my cousin and at her wedding asked when she was getting her baby since she figured she was now married, the baby should turn up straight away!

She worked out that being married wasn't required to have a baby when an uncle and his girlfriend had one a few years later. Thankfully she's worked it all out now!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kareng57 on June 03, 2013, 06:02:25 PM
I do a lot of typesetting and have discovered that most people are pretty bad at typing. The best was a woman who had probably trained on typewriters and hit Enter at the end of each line. There are also people who do first-line indents with spaces and people who manually hyphenate.


Actually, I kept hitting Enter when I was first learning Word.  I "knew" on one level that it wasn't necessary, but it was such a hard habit to break.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Kimblee on June 03, 2013, 06:39:04 PM
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While I'm not concerned about a "reputation" I'm not envisioning many situations where my choice of feminine hygeine products would come up...

Especially with a male parental figure being part of the discussion!  Oh, NO, no, no, no.  Mortification ensues!   :o

To say he had boundary issues would be a bit of an understatement...

My stepdad knew my prefrences... and would keep an eye on sales so he could snap up my brand whenever it was cheap or came with a cool "freebie" (mostly little wristlet travel cosmetic cases. Once it was a BIG makeup bag and he fought someone who tried to take it out of his cart. Sadly i lost the bag when we moved. I'd love to have it now, since it was really pretty and colorful. Plus it would be a bit of him.

Once a family friend was teasing him about it and about how I had him trained to buy the expensive stuff. He had a few beers in him by this time and answered "We've got a system. I buy her whatever she says she needs and I don't have to think about it. I'd buy 'em gold plated if she promises it'll make her stop crying over the Hallmark commercials!"

When a family member accused him of being "too interested in my private functions" he slugged him into a rose bush. Stepdad loved a good laugh, but he had no sense of humor for that kind of implication.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: katycoo on June 03, 2013, 07:33:45 PM
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While I'm not concerned about a "reputation" I'm not envisioning many situations where my choice of feminine hygeine products would come up...

Especially with a male parental figure being part of the discussion!  Oh, NO, no, no, no.  Mortification ensues!   :o

To say he had boundary issues would be a bit of an understatement...

My dad told me on the way up to my aunt's wedding that I shouldn't dance because it was my time of the month. My mom told me later "Ignore him."

And your Dad knew that, why?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: camlan on June 03, 2013, 07:39:24 PM
Growing up Catholic in the 70s, I had it drilled into my head that only "a husband and a wife" can make a baby.  I continually asked the adults around me "How does your body know that you're married??" And no one had a good answer...mostly I remember them saying, "It just does."

And I really remember when I announced to my mother that I finally realized that 'you don't have to be married to get pregnant!"  Her response?

"OH YES YOU DO!!!!!"

This kind of thing drives me insane. It's exactly the same as all the people who honest and truly believe you can't get pregnant your first time, or you can't catch an STD if you're a "good girl" or whatever. Biology doesn't care about morality, at all, and pretending it does is criminally negligent.

I got pretty much the exact reaction from my mother. Try this interpretation--other girls might get pregnant before they are married, but YOU are my daughter and you will NOT have sex before marriage.

Not a denial of biology over morality, but a statement that "you," her daughter had darn well better not get pregnant before marriage. My mom, and I suspect blueyzca01's mom, knew very well that babies could happen to unmarried women. The "Oh, yes, you do!" was aimed at making sure it didn't happen to their daughters.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: gramma dishes on June 03, 2013, 07:57:30 PM
...   "Mammal" as a concept was all nicely defined and everything, and then they discovered these annoyingly weird marsupials which fit all of the requirements for a mammal, but were still pretty strange. I can see why it was tempting to just push them off to the side. "They're technically mammals, but not really, you know."

I didn't know they were mammals.  I thought marsupials were a class of animal all by themselves. 

I thought mammals all had boobs of some kind or another, you know with regular ordinary nipples!   :-[

So thank you, everyone who has joined this conversation!  My science/biology/zoology lesson for today on Ehell!   ;D
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: blewellyn on June 03, 2013, 07:59:34 PM
My sister, well over the age of 40, used the term "crocodile tears" to mean really big tear drops.  I was delighted to explain to her what the term "crocodile tears" really meant.

hmmmph!  I'm over 60 and I just googled it because I always thought it meant large tear drops.  How embarrassing.

B
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: gramma dishes on June 03, 2013, 08:00:29 PM
A friend mentioned a story he'd heard about a daycare worker scrubbing a child's face with a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser.  I Googled it, and it turns out there's more than one instance of it happening.  Yikes, people, it's sand paper.

LOL!  The do-it-yourself dermabrasion?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Dr. F. on June 03, 2013, 08:03:42 PM
I do a lot of typesetting and have discovered that most people are pretty bad at typing. The best was a woman who had probably trained on typewriters and hit Enter at the end of each line. There are also people who do first-line indents with spaces and people who manually hyphenate.


Actually, I kept hitting Enter when I was first learning Word.  I "knew" on one level that it wasn't necessary, but it was such a hard habit to break.

Oof. Should we even discuss how difficult it is to drop the habit of two spaces after a period?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Slartibartfast on June 03, 2013, 08:05:37 PM
I do a lot of typesetting and have discovered that most people are pretty bad at typing. The best was a woman who had probably trained on typewriters and hit Enter at the end of each line. There are also people who do first-line indents with spaces and people who manually hyphenate.


Actually, I kept hitting Enter when I was first learning Word.  I "knew" on one level that it wasn't necessary, but it was such a hard habit to break.

Oof. Should we even discuss how difficult it is to drop the habit of two spaces after a period?

Etsy drives me nuts with this - when I write a new listing, Etsy automatically deletes the second space after each period and deletes any extra hard returns.  I meant for those two spaces to be there, darnit!  Give them back!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: jedikaiti on June 03, 2013, 08:06:14 PM
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While I'm not concerned about a "reputation" I'm not envisioning many situations where my choice of feminine hygeine products would come up...

Especially with a male parental figure being part of the discussion!  Oh, NO, no, no, no.  Mortification ensues!   :o

To say he had boundary issues would be a bit of an understatement...

My stepdad knew my prefrences... and would keep an eye on sales so he could snap up my brand whenever it was cheap or came with a cool "freebie" (mostly little wristlet travel cosmetic cases. Once it was a BIG makeup bag and he fought someone who tried to take it out of his cart. Sadly i lost the bag when we moved. I'd love to have it now, since it was really pretty and colorful. Plus it would be a bit of him.

Once a family friend was teasing him about it and about how I had him trained to buy the expensive stuff. He had a few beers in him by this time and answered "We've got a system. I buy her whatever she says she needs and I don't have to think about it. I'd buy 'em gold plated if she promises it'll make her stop crying over the Hallmark commercials!"

When a family member accused him of being "too interested in my private functions" he slugged him into a rose bush. Stepdad loved a good laugh, but he had no sense of humor for that kind of implication.

I like your stepdad.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Tea Drinker on June 03, 2013, 08:34:57 PM
I do a lot of typesetting and have discovered that most people are pretty bad at typing. The best was a woman who had probably trained on typewriters and hit Enter at the end of each line. There are also people who do first-line indents with spaces and people who manually hyphenate.


Actually, I kept hitting Enter when I was first learning Word.  I "knew" on one level that it wasn't necessary, but it was such a hard habit to break.

Oof. Should we even discuss how difficult it is to drop the habit of two spaces after a period?

Etsy drives me nuts with this - when I write a new listing, Etsy automatically deletes the second space after each period and deletes any extra hard returns.  I meant for those two spaces to be there, darnit!  Give them back!

Try using the code for a non-breaking blank space: &nbsp; You can put two or more of them in a row for more space.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kareng57 on June 03, 2013, 08:43:07 PM
I do a lot of typesetting and have discovered that most people are pretty bad at typing. The best was a woman who had probably trained on typewriters and hit Enter at the end of each line. There are also people who do first-line indents with spaces and people who manually hyphenate.


Actually, I kept hitting Enter when I was first learning Word.  I "knew" on one level that it wasn't necessary, but it was such a hard habit to break.

Oof. Should we even discuss how difficult it is to drop the habit of two spaces after a period?


I know.  Not too long ago I completed an online typing test (for an employment agency) - my speed was okay, but nowhere near my usual.  After I got the result, I was wondering whether it was counting my two-spaces-after-period as a mistake, each time.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: gramma dishes on June 03, 2013, 08:46:40 PM
I do a lot of typesetting and have discovered that most people are pretty bad at typing. The best was a woman who had probably trained on typewriters and hit Enter at the end of each line. There are also people who do first-line indents with spaces and people who manually hyphenate.


Actually, I kept hitting Enter when I was first learning Word.  I "knew" on one level that it wasn't necessary, but it was such a hard habit to break.

Oof. Should we even discuss how difficult it is to drop the habit of two spaces after a period?
 

You're not supposed to space twice after a period?   :o
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kareng57 on June 03, 2013, 08:50:38 PM
I do a lot of typesetting and have discovered that most people are pretty bad at typing. The best was a woman who had probably trained on typewriters and hit Enter at the end of each line. There are also people who do first-line indents with spaces and people who manually hyphenate.


Actually, I kept hitting Enter when I was first learning Word.  I "knew" on one level that it wasn't necessary, but it was such a hard habit to break.

Oof. Should we even discuss how difficult it is to drop the habit of two spaces after a period?
 

You're not supposed to space twice after a period?   :o


Apparently not, according to some authorities.  The "two spaces" came from the era when, with typewriters, all characters took up with same amount of space (whether it was Pica or Elite).  Now, with any format, it's all customised i.e. an "i" takes up less space than a "w" so a large break-period after a period is no longer needed.  Does that explanation make sense?  (If not it's because I'm still trying to figure it out myself).
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: gramma dishes on June 03, 2013, 08:56:24 PM
I guess it does make sense - sort of.  But it still comes as a total surprise to me.  I kind of like that extra space there.  To me, it makes things easier to read.   :-\
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cwm on June 03, 2013, 09:10:06 PM
I guess it does make sense - sort of.  But it still comes as a total surprise to me.  I kind of like that extra space there.  To me, it makes things easier to read.   :-\

I know on most Android phones when you're texting and put two spaces in it'll automatically add a period to end the sentence. I'm not sure if it does that in word processing software, but I seem to remember something doing it and I really didn't want it to and I got really mad with the program, but it could have been years ago.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: KenveeB on June 03, 2013, 09:52:01 PM
Yeah, I had to retrain myself in the past few years to just do one space. But now I'm used to it and have a hard time going back to the double.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: CuriousParty on June 03, 2013, 10:23:45 PM
I gave up retraining myself and just do a "Find and Replace" as part of my final edit.

Lazy, I know....
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kareng57 on June 03, 2013, 10:29:32 PM
I gave up retraining myself and just do a "Find and Replace" as part of my final edit.

Lazy, I know....


Good solution, doesn't sound lazy at all to me!

I'm 56 and am not optimistic about finding another job, but I will definitely keep this in mind (though of course I know it won't work on a typing test).
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on June 03, 2013, 10:36:42 PM
I'd skip the spray paint, it could be toxic to the fuzzy ones.
Good point. I could use colored duct tape. :)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Calistoga on June 04, 2013, 12:19:31 AM
These are actual conversations I've had at work in the last few months.

Girl: What kind of veggies are in our veggie soup?
Me: Corn, celery, zuchinni-
Girl: What's zuchinni?!
Me: It's a veggie. It's squash.
Girl: REALLY?!
Me: Why would I lie about that?
-
Girl: Is celery a vegetable?
Me: No. Celery runs wild on the plains of Africa, and the African Celery hunters chase it down with spears.
-
Girl: Can you get AIDs from money?
-
Boy: Why is it called carrot cake?
Me: Because...it's made with carrots.
-

Boy: Does bacon come on the bacon potato?
-
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: NyaChan on June 04, 2013, 12:28:37 AM
These are actual conversations I've had at work in the last few months.

Girl: What kind of veggies are in our veggie soup?
Me: Corn, celery, zuchinni-
Girl: What's zuchinni?!
Me: It's a veggie. It's squash.
Girl: REALLY?!
Me: Why would I lie about that?
-
Girl: Is celery a vegetable?
Me: No. Celery runs wild on the plains of Africa, and the African Celery hunters chase it down with spears.
-
Girl: Can you get AIDs from money?
-
Boy: Why is it called carrot cake?
Me: Because...it's made with carrots.
-

Boy: Does bacon come on the bacon potato?
-


That reminds me of an Aziz Ansari joke where he describes overhearing 50Cent ordering grapefruit juice and asking why it wasn't purple. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: KenveeB on June 04, 2013, 07:11:49 AM
Boy: Why is it called carrot cake?
Me: Because...it's made with carrots.

Well, coffee cake isn't made with coffee. That sounds like a reasonable question to me if you're not a cook.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: ladyknight1 on June 04, 2013, 07:15:57 AM
It's called carrot cake because cake decorators love to draw silly icing carrots on top of it.  ;D

DS, while not quite an adult, thought double spacing meant he had to press space twice between each word. I helped him fix it.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Free Range Hippy Chick on June 04, 2013, 08:32:41 AM

Well, coffee cake isn't made with coffee. That sounds like a reasonable question to me if you're not a cook.

OK, now I'm confused. My coffee cake is made with coffee. What do you make coffee cake with?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Amava on June 04, 2013, 08:35:39 AM

Well, coffee cake isn't made with coffee. That sounds like a reasonable question to me if you're not a cook.

OK, now I'm confused. My coffee cake is made with coffee. What do you make coffee cake with?

Mine too.
But I think it can also be a name for "cake to accompany a cup of coffee".
I know there are also "koffiekoeken" (pastries like these http://www.bakkerijheylen.be/_fotos_koffiekoeken.htm for example) in my language that do not contain coffee.
But what I call coffee cake is cake made out of some brownie-like dough with a strong cup of coffee added to it.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Outdoor Girl on June 04, 2013, 08:37:03 AM
I do a lot of typesetting and have discovered that most people are pretty bad at typing. The best was a woman who had probably trained on typewriters and hit Enter at the end of each line. There are also people who do first-line indents with spaces and people who manually hyphenate.


Actually, I kept hitting Enter when I was first learning Word.  I "knew" on one level that it wasn't necessary, but it was such a hard habit to break.

Oof. Should we even discuss how difficult it is to drop the habit of two spaces after a period?
 

You're not supposed to space twice after a period?   :o


Apparently not, according to some authorities.  The "two spaces" came from the era when, with typewriters, all characters took up with same amount of space (whether it was Pica or Elite).  Now, with any format, it's all customised i.e. an "i" takes up less space than a "w" so a large break-period after a period is no longer needed.  Does that explanation make sense?  (If not it's because I'm still trying to figure it out myself).

I can't break myself of the two space habit, either.  But one of the other reasons for it is if you end your sentance and it falls at the end of the line of text, the extra space will cause a one space indent on the next line.  With a typewriter, this was never a problem.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cwm on June 04, 2013, 08:40:35 AM

Well, coffee cake isn't made with coffee. That sounds like a reasonable question to me if you're not a cook.

OK, now I'm confused. My coffee cake is made with coffee. What do you make coffee cake with?

Mine too.
But I think it can also be a name for "cake to accompany a cup of coffee".
I know there are also "koffiekoeken" (pastries like these http://www.bakkerijheylen.be/_fotos_koffiekoeken.htm for example) in my language that do not contain coffee.
But what I call coffee cake is cake made out of some brownie-like dough with a strong cup of coffee added to it.

Coffee cake is a common cake or sweetbread available in many countries. The term "coffee cake" can refer to any of the following:
 A class of cakes intended to be eaten alongside coffee (for example, as part of a breakfast meal) or that may be eaten during a "coffee break" or offered to guests as a gesture of hospitality on or around a coffee table. Under this definition, a coffee cake does not necessarily contain coffee. They are typically single layer cakes that may be square or rectangular like a Stollen or loaf-shaped rectangular cakes, or they may be ring shaped. Coffee cakes may be flavored with cinnamon or other spices, seeds, nuts and fruits. These cakes sometimes have a crumbly or crumb topping called streusel and/or a light glaze drizzle. Some similarity to teacakes may be found, though teacakes can be individually sized baked items served with tea.
 A cake, often sponge cake, which is made with coffee or has a coffee flavor.

Via: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake)

When I think of coffee cake, I think of the first one, it's a sweet cake pastry with cinnamon and crumblies on top. When you add fruit to it, it's called a Danish.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: MommyPenguin on June 04, 2013, 08:46:10 AM
I didn't think doing two spaces would cause an extra space at the beginning of the next line!  What program does it do that in?  I don't like the look of a single space; I think it makes it harder to read longer paragraphs.  I'm sticking to two until/unless it becomes ungrammatical to use two.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Free Range Hippy Chick on June 04, 2013, 08:51:16 AM

Coffee cake is a common cake or sweetbread available in many countries. The term "coffee cake" can refer to any of the following:
 A class of cakes intended to be eaten alongside coffee (for example, as part of a breakfast meal) or that may be eaten during a "coffee break" or offered to guests as a gesture of hospitality on or around a coffee table. Under this definition, a coffee cake does not necessarily contain coffee. They are typically single layer cakes that may be square or rectangular like a Stollen or loaf-shaped rectangular cakes, or they may be ring shaped. Coffee cakes may be flavored with cinnamon or other spices, seeds, nuts and fruits. These cakes sometimes have a crumbly or crumb topping called streusel and/or a light glaze drizzle. Some similarity to teacakes may be found, though teacakes can be individually sized baked items served with tea.
 A cake, often sponge cake, which is made with coffee or has a coffee flavor.

Via: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake)

When I think of coffee cake, I think of the first one, it's a sweet cake pastry with cinnamon and crumblies on top. When you add fruit to it, it's called a Danish.

Right. To me, coffee cake is a coffee flavoured sponge cake with coffee flavoured icing, same as chocolate cake is flavoured with chocolate and lemon cake is flavoured with lemon. Cake to have with coffee is just... cake, and might be any flavour.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Free Range Hippy Chick on June 04, 2013, 08:54:04 AM
Oh yes, and to me sweetbread isn't a bakery product at all! It's cooked pancreas or thymus, usually veal or lamb, and utterly disgusting.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Outdoor Girl on June 04, 2013, 08:54:57 AM
I didn't think doing two spaces would cause an extra space at the beginning of the next line!  What program does it do that in?  I don't like the look of a single space; I think it makes it harder to read longer paragraphs.  I'm sticking to two until/unless it becomes ungrammatical to use two.

I've had it happen here in Ehell, in texts and in Word.  It doesn't happen very often, which makes it even harder to break the habit.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Blondie on June 04, 2013, 09:11:20 AM
I have to admit (and out myself in this thread) I have never heard of putting two spaces after a period. Is it something that happened with typewriters only?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Kariachi on June 04, 2013, 09:14:52 AM

Well, coffee cake isn't made with coffee. That sounds like a reasonable question to me if you're not a cook.

OK, now I'm confused. My coffee cake is made with coffee. What do you make coffee cake with?

Mine too.
But I think it can also be a name for "cake to accompany a cup of coffee".
I know there are also "koffiekoeken" (pastries like these http://www.bakkerijheylen.be/_fotos_koffiekoeken.htm for example) in my language that do not contain coffee.
But what I call coffee cake is cake made out of some brownie-like dough with a strong cup of coffee added to it.

Coffee cake is a common cake or sweetbread available in many countries. The term "coffee cake" can refer to any of the following:
 A class of cakes intended to be eaten alongside coffee (for example, as part of a breakfast meal) or that may be eaten during a "coffee break" or offered to guests as a gesture of hospitality on or around a coffee table. Under this definition, a coffee cake does not necessarily contain coffee. They are typically single layer cakes that may be square or rectangular like a Stollen or loaf-shaped rectangular cakes, or they may be ring shaped. Coffee cakes may be flavored with cinnamon or other spices, seeds, nuts and fruits. These cakes sometimes have a crumbly or crumb topping called streusel and/or a light glaze drizzle. Some similarity to teacakes may be found, though teacakes can be individually sized baked items served with tea.
 A cake, often sponge cake, which is made with coffee or has a coffee flavor.

Via: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake)

When I think of coffee cake, I think of the first one, it's a sweet cake pastry with cinnamon and crumblies on top. When you add fruit to it, it's called a Danish.

In my area that's more readily called a 'streusel cake', and it is delicious.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: ladyknight1 on June 04, 2013, 09:29:36 AM
It's called carrot cake because cake decorators love to draw silly icing carrots on top of it.  ;D

Don't forget the carrot jockies!!
http://www.cakewrecks.com/home/2008/6/22/naked-mohawk-baby-carrot-jockeys.html

Carrots must be there first!  ;D
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Outdoor Girl on June 04, 2013, 09:31:10 AM
I have to admit (and out myself in this thread) I have never heard of putting two spaces after a period. Is it something that happened with typewriters only?

Yes.  Those of us who learned to type on a typewriter will put in two spaces after a period.  Those of you who grew up learning to type on a computer keyboard probably on put in one.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Pen^2 on June 04, 2013, 09:38:43 AM
I have to admit (and out myself in this thread) I have never heard of putting two spaces after a period. Is it something that happened with typewriters only?

A typewriter thing, yes.

I have a number of books from 1920 and earlier which were typeset this way. The old typesetting and the smell of musty paper always feel nostalgic.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cwm on June 04, 2013, 09:48:10 AM
I have to admit (and out myself in this thread) I have never heard of putting two spaces after a period. Is it something that happened with typewriters only?

Yes.  Those of us who learned to type on a typewriter will put in two spaces after a period.  Those of you who grew up learning to type on a computer keyboard probably on put in one.

Not necessarily. I learned how to type on Mario Teaches Typing (back on an old IBM PS/1, and man do I miss that thing...) and it always taught me two spaces. All through elementary and middle school I was taught two spaces. In high school, my English teachers started getting on everyone's case because they were using two spaces between sentences and it was padding their papers. Everyone in my high school class started learning on computers, but until proportional typefaces became common, it was the standard. In middle school, the spool printers and word processing software at school still only had monospace type, and most people didn't have home computers/printers yet, especially not ones with those fancy fonts.

Personally, it wasn't until we got Windows 95 that I realized there WERE different fonts on a computer, so before that it was still double space between sentences for me.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: RebeccainGA on June 04, 2013, 10:15:19 AM
Ignorance is excusable. Willful ignorance needs to be beaten to death with the Shovel of Knowledge.

Oh, this is good!  I'm stealing it NOW!

That is an awesome line. If I knew it wouldn't get me in trouble, I'd post this at work.

I probably wouldn't get in trouble - and if I did, it'd be more of a 'gee, why didn't you post that EARLIER??', so it's going on the wall.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: twiggy on June 04, 2013, 10:34:35 AM
I have to admit (and out myself in this thread) I have never heard of putting two spaces after a period. Is it something that happened with typewriters only?

Yes.  Those of us who learned to type on a typewriter will put in two spaces after a period.  Those of you who grew up learning to type on a computer keyboard probably on put in one.

I took a computer keyboarding class in Jr. High, 1998 and we were taught 2 spaces after a period. By the time I got to high school it was wrong
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: camlan on June 04, 2013, 10:51:59 AM
I do a lot of typesetting and have discovered that most people are pretty bad at typing. The best was a woman who had probably trained on typewriters and hit Enter at the end of each line. There are also people who do first-line indents with spaces and people who manually hyphenate.


Actually, I kept hitting Enter when I was first learning Word.  I "knew" on one level that it wasn't necessary, but it was such a hard habit to break.

Oof. Should we even discuss how difficult it is to drop the habit of two spaces after a period?

Etsy drives me nuts with this - when I write a new listing, Etsy automatically deletes the second space after each period and deletes any extra hard returns.  I meant for those two spaces to be there, darnit!  Give them back!

Try using the code for a non-breaking blank space: &nbsp; You can put two or more of them in a row for more space.

In MS Word, you can also go to Insert/Symbol/Special Characters and choose the non-breaking space. Probably won't help with Etsy, though.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: RebeccainGA on June 04, 2013, 10:55:04 AM

ETA: Ooh, forgot a good one. No, Australian Aboriginals are not correctly called African-Americans! Sheesh!

I recall reading a news story a few years ago where a man protested a US university's financial aid office. He was an Australian Aboriginal and refused to fill out the portion of the form concerning race. He argued he was certainly NOT Caucasian, NOT Native American, NOT Hispanic, NOT Asian, and neither African nor American.

I had a professor in college whose parents were from Egypt. He liked to joke he was African American. Technically correct though!  ;D

I had a friend in college who was from South Africa, third generation in her family from there (so both she and her parents were born in Africa). She had emigrated to the US. She was then, truly, African American, and put that down on all of her forms.

She was also as pale skinned as humanly possible without albinism, had white blonde hair and blue eyes. So were her parents.

Made it REALLY interesting when the did the automatic roommate assignments, since they were still doing them by race at the time. She and her (militant Nation of Islam) roommate did not get along, from the moment they met - you couldn't dream up a worse situation.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: KenveeB on June 04, 2013, 12:46:28 PM
Coffee cake is a common cake or sweetbread available in many countries. The term "coffee cake" can refer to any of the following:
 A class of cakes intended to be eaten alongside coffee (for example, as part of a breakfast meal) or that may be eaten during a "coffee break" or offered to guests as a gesture of hospitality on or around a coffee table. Under this definition, a coffee cake does not necessarily contain coffee. They are typically single layer cakes that may be square or rectangular like a Stollen or loaf-shaped rectangular cakes, or they may be ring shaped. Coffee cakes may be flavored with cinnamon or other spices, seeds, nuts and fruits. These cakes sometimes have a crumbly or crumb topping called streusel and/or a light glaze drizzle. Some similarity to teacakes may be found, though teacakes can be individually sized baked items served with tea.
 A cake, often sponge cake, which is made with coffee or has a coffee flavor.

Via: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake)

When I think of coffee cake, I think of the first one, it's a sweet cake pastry with cinnamon and crumblies on top. When you add fruit to it, it's called a Danish.

Yes, that's what I was thinking of. Funny, I even double-checked a few recipes online to make sure it wasn't some weird local quirk before posting that. :)  A coworker once brought in a coffee-flavored cake and just called it "coffee cake", and didn't understand why people were confused when they tasted the coffee.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: blueyzca01 on June 04, 2013, 12:56:32 PM
Growing up Catholic in the 70s, I had it drilled into my head that only "a husband and a wife" can make a baby.  I continually asked the adults around me "How does your body know that you're married??" And no one had a good answer...mostly I remember them saying, "It just does."

And I really remember when I announced to my mother that I finally realized that 'you don't have to be married to get pregnant!"  Her response?

"OH YES YOU DO!!!!!"

This kind of thing drives me insane. It's exactly the same as all the people who honest and truly believe you can't get pregnant your first time, or you can't catch an STD if you're a "good girl" or whatever. Biology doesn't care about morality, at all, and pretending it does is criminally negligent.

I got pretty much the exact reaction from my mother. Try this interpretation--other girls might get pregnant before they are married, but YOU are my daughter and you will NOT have sex before marriage.

Not a denial of biology over morality, but a statement that "you," her daughter had darn well better not get pregnant before marriage. My mom, and I suspect blueyzca01's mom, knew very well that babies could happen to unmarried women. The "Oh, yes, you do!" was aimed at making sure it didn't happen to their daughters.

You got it Camlan! There was no reason for anyone to get pregnant before marriage because we don't do that in our family.

The joke was on her though...in 1999 my youngest, UNMARRIED sister got pregnant.  I remember smirking and telling my mom, "so, I guess we DO do that in our family!"
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Virg on June 04, 2013, 01:57:18 PM
blueyzca01 wrote:

"Growing up Catholic in the 70s, I had it drilled into my head that only "a husband and a wife" can make a baby.  I continually asked the adults around me "How does your body know that you're married??" And no one had a good answer...mostly I remember them saying, "It just does.""

See, I have to agree with PeterM that this is a really bad idea.  I get the underlying concept that they were trying to instill a moral character into you, but your question shows why that's exactly the wrong way to do it.  They should have said that only a husband and wife should make a baby if that's what they wanted you to follow, because their statement is more likely to cause an unexpected pregnancy, when someone takes it literally and decides that she can do whatever she wants with her boyfriend because only married people can make a baby.

Virg
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: TootsNYC on June 04, 2013, 02:12:08 PM
I guess it does make sense - sort of.  But it still comes as a total surprise to me.  I kind of like that extra space there.  To me, it makes things easier to read.   :-\

Art directors got their hooks into things here. In typeset copy, if you use two spaces after the period, you get odd little white "lakes." So in desktop publishing, they are verboten (at least, if you've got an art director).

And that prohibition transferred over to other word-processing things.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cwm on June 04, 2013, 02:25:00 PM

ETA: Ooh, forgot a good one. No, Australian Aboriginals are not correctly called African-Americans! Sheesh!

I recall reading a news story a few years ago where a man protested a US university's financial aid office. He was an Australian Aboriginal and refused to fill out the portion of the form concerning race. He argued he was certainly NOT Caucasian, NOT Native American, NOT Hispanic, NOT Asian, and neither African nor American.

I had a professor in college whose parents were from Egypt. He liked to joke he was African American. Technically correct though!  ;D

I had a friend in college who was from South Africa, third generation in her family from there (so both she and her parents were born in Africa). She had emigrated to the US. She was then, truly, African American, and put that down on all of her forms.

She was also as pale skinned as humanly possible without albinism, had white blonde hair and blue eyes. So were her parents.

Made it REALLY interesting when the did the automatic roommate assignments, since they were still doing them by race at the time. She and her (militant Nation of Islam) roommate did not get along, from the moment they met - you couldn't dream up a worse situation.

Yeah, we had an African-American from Johannesburg who transferred to our high school. I distinctly remember one of the assistant principals arguing with him that he couldn't be AA, he was white and British!  :o

Then again, I'm the odd one out of anyone I know, I'm from the Midwest USA and can tell the difference between NZ and Aussie accents, and Welsh, Scottish, Irish, and various accents from around England. I totally surprised one customer at a job by asking which island he was from, because I thought it was obvious he was from NZ, but every single other person in the room had pegged him as a Londoner. He shook my hand and thanked me for being the first person in the USA to ever get it right.
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Post by: Shalamar on June 04, 2013, 03:38:09 PM
Anyone else dying to quote Mean Girls?

"If you're from Africa - why are you white?"
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Post by: camlan on June 04, 2013, 05:31:10 PM

Then again, I'm the odd one out of anyone I know, I'm from the Midwest USA and can tell the difference between NZ and Aussie accents, and Welsh, Scottish, Irish, and various accents from around England. I totally surprised one customer at a job by asking which island he was from, because I thought it was obvious he was from NZ, but every single other person in the room had pegged him as a Londoner. He shook my hand and thanked me for being the first person in the USA to ever get it right.

I once broke my own rule about asking people where they were from for a young man who was checking out books at the university library where I worked. His accent said one place, his pronunciation pointed to a different continent altogether. He asked me to guess, and I said that I couldn't--his accent sounded Australian, but he pronounced some words like a Canadian.

He started to laugh and told me that he grew up in Canada and his family emigrated to Australia when he was 15. He told me I was the only person to guess correctly.
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Post by: emwithme on June 04, 2013, 06:15:54 PM
Growing up Catholic in the 70s, I had it drilled into my head that only "a husband and a wife" can make a baby.  I continually asked the adults around me "How does your body know that you're married??" And no one had a good answer...mostly I remember them saying, "It just does."

And I really remember when I announced to my mother that I finally realized that 'you don't have to be married to get pregnant!"  Her response?

"OH YES YOU DO!!!!!"

This kind of thing drives me insane. It's exactly the same as all the people who honest and truly believe you can't get pregnant your first time, or you can't catch an STD if you're a "good girl" or whatever. Biology doesn't care about morality, at all, and pretending it does is criminally negligent.

I got pretty much the exact reaction from my mother. Try this interpretation--other girls might get pregnant before they are married, but YOU are my daughter and you will NOT have sex before marriage.

Not a denial of biology over morality, but a statement that "you," her daughter had darn well better not get pregnant before marriage. My mom, and I suspect blueyzca01's mom, knew very well that babies could happen to unmarried women. The "Oh, yes, you do!" was aimed at making sure it didn't happen to their daughters.

You got it Camlan! There was no reason for anyone to get pregnant before marriage because we don't do that in our family.

The joke was on her though...in 1999 my youngest, UNMARRIED sister got pregnant.  I remember smirking and telling my mom, "so, I guess we DO do that in our family!"

My BFF's family is catholic, but her parents got together when they were 14 and 15 (and made BFF's big sister).  BFF couldn't work out for Many Years how her sister was at their parents' wedding.  It just Did.Not.Compute. 
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Post by: SheltieMom on June 04, 2013, 06:42:06 PM
I taught computer literacy classes in middle school from 1980 to 2006. When we were told we had to start teaching 1 space at the end of a sentence, you would have thought the world was ending. The reason we were given was that proportional fonts made the second space unnecessary, and the business world wanted them gone because to a computer a space took up just as much memory as any other character. As this was in a time when memory was measured in K (thousands), and everything had to be stored on "floppy" disks which held 720 KB, those extra spaces were lost memory capacity.
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Post by: Asharah on June 04, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
I think somewhere here is a story where the kid had been told the "when a man and a woman love each other very much they get married and God sends them a baby" story. She repeated it to another kid her announced, "My Mom and Dad were never married and they hate each other.  >:D
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: StarFaerie on June 05, 2013, 05:57:52 AM
Coffee cake is a common cake or sweetbread available in many countries. The term "coffee cake" can refer to any of the following:
 A class of cakes intended to be eaten alongside coffee (for example, as part of a breakfast meal) or that may be eaten during a "coffee break" or offered to guests as a gesture of hospitality on or around a coffee table. Under this definition, a coffee cake does not necessarily contain coffee. They are typically single layer cakes that may be square or rectangular like a Stollen or loaf-shaped rectangular cakes, or they may be ring shaped. Coffee cakes may be flavored with cinnamon or other spices, seeds, nuts and fruits. These cakes sometimes have a crumbly or crumb topping called streusel and/or a light glaze drizzle. Some similarity to teacakes may be found, though teacakes can be individually sized baked items served with tea.
 A cake, often sponge cake, which is made with coffee or has a coffee flavor.

Via: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake)

When I think of coffee cake, I think of the first one, it's a sweet cake pastry with cinnamon and crumblies on top. When you add fruit to it, it's called a Danish.

Yes, that's what I was thinking of. Funny, I even double-checked a few recipes online to make sure it wasn't some weird local quirk before posting that. :)  A coworker once brought in a coffee-flavored cake and just called it "coffee cake", and didn't understand why people were confused when they tasted the coffee.

And don't forget Tea Cakes. I've never known anyone to put tea in them. Rather they are eaten for tea the meal.
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Post by: Anniissa on June 05, 2013, 06:03:22 AM
Coffee cake is a common cake or sweetbread available in many countries. The term "coffee cake" can refer to any of the following:
 A class of cakes intended to be eaten alongside coffee (for example, as part of a breakfast meal) or that may be eaten during a "coffee break" or offered to guests as a gesture of hospitality on or around a coffee table. Under this definition, a coffee cake does not necessarily contain coffee. They are typically single layer cakes that may be square or rectangular like a Stollen or loaf-shaped rectangular cakes, or they may be ring shaped. Coffee cakes may be flavored with cinnamon or other spices, seeds, nuts and fruits. These cakes sometimes have a crumbly or crumb topping called streusel and/or a light glaze drizzle. Some similarity to teacakes may be found, though teacakes can be individually sized baked items served with tea.
 A cake, often sponge cake, which is made with coffee or has a coffee flavor.

Via: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake)

When I think of coffee cake, I think of the first one, it's a sweet cake pastry with cinnamon and crumblies on top. When you add fruit to it, it's called a Danish.

Yes, that's what I was thinking of. Funny, I even double-checked a few recipes online to make sure it wasn't some weird local quirk before posting that. :)  A coworker once brought in a coffee-flavored cake and just called it "coffee cake", and didn't understand why people were confused when they tasted the coffee.

And don't forget Tea Cakes. I've never known anyone to put tea in them. Rather they are eaten for tea the meal.

But you do get Tea Bread which is made with dried fruit soaked in tea and is basically a loaf cake made with tea.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: stitchygreyanonymouse on June 05, 2013, 08:36:04 AM
I think somewhere here is a story where the kid had been told the "when a man and a woman love each other very much they get married and God sends them a baby" story. She repeated it to another kid her announced, "My Mom and Dad were never married and they hate each other.  >:D

I was never the OP of a story like that on here, but when my very religious family tried pulling that one on me as a kid, I had to point out that my parents were never married.  ::)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: audhs on June 05, 2013, 11:24:37 AM
I had to tell my 60 something year old mother that yeast infections are caused by more things than just s-x.  This was after seeing her horrified look when I told her my oldest dd's bad case of diaper rash was a yeast infection.
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Post by: cwm on June 05, 2013, 11:29:43 AM
I had to tell my 60 something year old mother that yeast infections are caused by more things than just s-x.  This was after seeing her horrified look when I told her my oldest dd's bad case of diaper rash was a yeast infection.

See, here I was, the crazy one thinking yeast infections were caused by, y'know, yeast and stuff.

Then again, I've been around kids with bad diaper rash/infections for a while, so I know how it happens.
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Post by: audhs on June 05, 2013, 11:31:34 AM
I had to tell my 60 something year old mother that yeast infections are caused by more things than just s-x.  This was after seeing her horrified look when I told her my oldest dd's bad case of diaper rash was a yeast infection.

See, here I was, the crazy one thinking yeast infections were caused by, y'know, yeast and stuff.

Then again, I've been around kids with bad diaper rash/infections for a while, so I know how it happens.

My mom had 4 kids and dd was her 6th grandchild.  No clue how it never came up before.
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Post by: twiggy on June 05, 2013, 11:35:54 AM
DH's elderly great-aunt was scandalized when she found out that she had a yeast infection under her brea$t. She told SIL, a nurse, "but I never put bread there!!!
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Post by: WillyNilly on June 05, 2013, 11:42:20 AM
Yeast infections, jock itch and athlete's foot are all various yeast infections. Yeast simply = fungus. And people can get it any where, especially in folds of skin where there might be sweat/moisture - so between toes and genitals, but also armpits, under breasts, in the ear or in skin folds on very obese people.
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Post by: snowflake on June 05, 2013, 02:24:32 PM
Anyone else dying to quote Mean Girls?

"If you're from Africa - why are you white?"

This reminds me of one.  Back in the Harry Potter craze, I was chatting at lunch about the latest book and someone broke in to say, "You know what I don't get?" in this condescending tone.  I was fully expecting her to point out an inconsistency in the magic (of which there are many).  But instead she says, "How can there be a Chinese person in England?  I thought it was because there weren't any other schools of magic, but there are.  So what is Harry's love interest doing there?"  (This was after book 4 so he was all about Cho Chang.)

I was about to say, "If you walk down the streets of London, you'll see lots of different races just like you do in New York."  But I was hesitating because I didn't want it to come out sounding like: "I've been to London and you haven't, you rube." 

So she continues:  "I suppose before she was a witch, maybe she could have been brought there as a slave?"

At that point I wasn't sure whether to start explaining the whole idea of immigration to her or just start weeping at the state of her education.
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Post by: Asharah on June 05, 2013, 03:13:17 PM
I remember when my neice's son had an operation coming up, I was discussing blood types with BIL (baby's grandfather) with my mother there. Mom said she was type "O" but didn't know if she was positive or negative. (Baby was negative.) I told her if she was negative, her doctor would have said something to her at some point, since women of her time her were RH negative had to either find a spouse who was also RH negative or face a lifetime of pregnancy complications. (Mom had 6 kids.) O(f course these days, they just give them shots to solve the problem.
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Post by: ladyknight1 on June 05, 2013, 03:18:06 PM
Yes, I was the unlucky one to receive said shots. I am B-, DH is O+, DS is O+.

I work at a university, all my co-workers also work at said university. While our work is important and many times it is rewarding, no one works here for the pay alone. I had to explain to a co-worker the benefit of retiring at a higher salary. The way our pension plan works, you get paid your retirement benefits at the rate of the last position you held before retiring. So, it greatly benefits an employee to move up as they work here.
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Post by: Moray on June 05, 2013, 03:22:34 PM
DH's elderly great-aunt was scandalized when she found out that she had a yeast infection under her brea$t. She told SIL, a nurse, "but I never put bread there!!!

LOL, did she think women who got vaginal yeast infections were walking around with dinner rolls in their panties?
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Post by: ladyknight1 on June 05, 2013, 03:33:41 PM
Moray, do you mean that women don't walk around with dinner rolls in their panties? I thought it was a requirement.  :P
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Post by: Moray on June 05, 2013, 03:36:46 PM
Moray, do you mean that women don't walk around with dinner rolls in their panties? I thought it was a requirement.  :P

Have I been doing this "female" thing all wrong for 26 years?! MY LIFE IS A LIE!!!!!
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Post by: ladyknight1 on June 05, 2013, 03:39:23 PM
I am shaking in my office chair from laughter.

This is right up there with my dear father, who will argue until the end of time that OTC and prescription medication aren't drugs. Drugs are bad, so a doctor would never prescribe them!  :'(
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Post by: Snooks on June 05, 2013, 03:49:09 PM
Yes, I was the unlucky one to receive said shots. I am B-, DH is O+, DS is O+.

Another one of my reasons to stay child free, pesky funny blood...
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Post by: Elfmama on June 05, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
Yes, I was the unlucky one to receive said shots. I am B-, DH is O+, DS is O+.

I work at a university, all my co-workers also work at said university. While our work is important and many times it is rewarding, no one works here for the pay alone. I had to explain to a co-worker the benefit of retiring at a higher salary. The way our pension plan works, you get paid your retirement benefits at the rate of the last position you held before retiring. So, it greatly benefits an employee to move up as they work here.
A- here. One of the reasons that I never had a third child (besides the 9-month-all-day "morning sickness") was because DD2 was born in Italy.  I didn't get the shot that time, and no one understood me when I tried to find out what DD's blood type was. I asked her pediatrician, and got a really snotty "We won't draw blood on an infant just to satisfy the mother's curiosity." I wasn't willing to risk losing an infant.  By the time I found out that she was also A-, I'd already had a tubal ligation.
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on June 05, 2013, 09:06:03 PM
How does that work exactly? I'm O+ and DH is B+. Does that work out better? I know I can give him blood but I can't have his.
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Post by: BB-VA on June 05, 2013, 09:10:52 PM
The Rh factor is what is important.  If a woman is Rh- and her SO is Rh+, the odds are that any children they have will also be Rh+.  This could cause the woman to develop antibodies against her future children, unless she receives an injection to counteract the antibodies immediately after the child is born. 

My mother was Rh-, I am Rh+, born before the injection was available.  Fortunately for me, I was her first (only) child.  The antibodies increase with future pregnancies.
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Post by: VorFemme on June 05, 2013, 09:38:16 PM
Mom is O-.  Dad is O+.  We four kids are O+ for half (me and one brother - not sure which one) and O- (Lil Sis and the other brother - not sure which one).  Mom never mentioned jaundice issues with either brother - so the one that she lost must have also been O-.  Or somehow she didn't get exposed to Rh+ blood, anyway.....her tubes got tied at that point because they had PLANNED on having four kids.....(four full-term pregnancies, two suspected ones that ended early enough to make her unsure if she'd been pregnant or just skipped a period - but since these were in the 1950s and 1961.....most likely were not "just a skipped period").  Just one that didn't implant......
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Post by: Softly Spoken on June 05, 2013, 09:47:25 PM
Yep - adults will know stuff if they live it.  ;)

My older brother (3rd of us 4 kids) is deaf, most likely because of the rh factor. I was born deaf in one ear. I am actually listed (anonymously) in some old medical textbook somewhere as a case study - they gave me in-utero blood transfusions to counter the fact that my mom's rh was different than mine. It apparently worked but I was sick of getting poked and decided to get the heck out of dodge and arrived 10 weeks early. :P


Back on topic: I notice based on PPs stories that there seems to be two sub groups of this thread topic - I would call one Common Knowledge and one Common Sense. Some things you would never think had to be said, until they lead to something like a trip to the hospital or the addition of intelligence-insulting warnings/directions on various places and commercial products. Some knowledge is regional/specialized/experience-based and so it isn't as far-fetched to have to explain it to someone.

On the vein of things you can go a strangely long time without knowing: my brother was self-taught on the computer. He has built his own and can remember DOS language, etc. He never knew that you could select multiple files buy clicking the first and last while holding the [shift] key. Until I told him about it, he had been manually selecting individual music files to copy/delete/move, and he has a huge music collection on his PC. We both were like  :o.

There are so many things we will never know if no one tells us! ;)

~*~*~*

*Edited because 2 1/2 months i.e. 10 weeks got smashed together in my head  :-[. I sounded like I was defying the natural order with my birth. Fixed that.  :P
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Post by: twiggy on June 05, 2013, 09:56:45 PM
Yep - adults will know stuff if they live it.  ;)

My older brother (3rd of us 4 kids) is deaf, most likely because of the rh factor. I was born deaf in one ear. I am actually listed (anonymously) in some old medical textbook somewhere as a case study - they gave me in-utero blood transfusions to counter the fact that my mom's rh was different than mine. It apparently worked but I was sick of getting poked and decided to get the heck out of dodge and arrived 10 months early. :P


Back on topic: I notice based on PPs stories that there seems to be two sub groups of this thread topic - I would call one Common Knowledge and one Common Sense. Some things you would never think had to be said, until they lead to something like a trip to the hospital or the addition of intelligence-insulting warnings/directions on various places and commercial products. Some knowledge is regional/specialized/experience-based and so it isn't as far-fetched to have to explain it to someone.

On the vein of things you can go a strangely long time without knowing: my brother was self-taught on the computer. He has built his own and can remember DOS language, etc. He never knew that you could select multiple files buy clicking the first and last while holding the [shift] key. Until I told him about it, he had been manually selecting individual music files to copy/delete/move, and he has a huge music collection on his PC. We both were like  :o.

There are so many things we will never know if no one tells us! ;)

do you mean weeks?
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Post by: gramma dishes on June 05, 2013, 10:02:51 PM

...    It apparently worked but I was sick of getting poked and decided to get the heck out of dodge and arrived 10 months early. :P

do you mean weeks?

LOL!  I noticed that too and just assumed she was trying to be funny!
Like "So scared of that huge needle that I tried to retract back into the ovary from whence I came."    ;D
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Post by: Bluenomi on June 05, 2013, 10:08:45 PM
Ahh yes the joys that come with being a negative blood type when pregnant. 2 shots of anti D while pregnant and an extra shot after DD arrived and was a positive blod type. Thankfully these days they test for it early in pregnancy so it generally doesn't cause any issues. Since those issues can range from a mild case of jaundice after birth to early miscarriage, it's pretty important to know!

It's one of those things that unless it effects you, you don't really have any reason to know about it.
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Post by: SheltieMom on June 05, 2013, 10:37:24 PM
My mother was the 5th of 8 children. At that time, of course, Rh factor was unknown. (She was born in 1931) The child born just before her had severe developmental delays, we now believe to have been caused by Rh problems. Amazingly, the last 4 children, including my mother, were all Rh-, and had no problems.
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Post by: kareng57 on June 05, 2013, 11:08:59 PM
Mom is O-.  Dad is O+.  We four kids are O+ for half (me and one brother - not sure which one) and O- (Lil Sis and the other brother - not sure which one).  Mom never mentioned jaundice issues with either brother - so the one that she lost must have also been O-.  Or somehow she didn't get exposed to Rh+ blood, anyway.....her tubes got tied at that point because they had PLANNED on having four kids.....(four full-term pregnancies, two suspected ones that ended early enough to make her unsure if she'd been pregnant or just skipped a period - but since these were in the 1950s and 1961.....most likely were not "just a skipped period").  Just one that didn't implant......

It was never that cut-and-dried, no matter what.  Even when Haemolytic Disease of the Newborn was at its height (through about the late 1930s through 1960s) only a minority of Rh negative women carrying Rh positive foetuses became sensitized and therefore developed antibodies.  The problem was that there was no way to predict who would, and who would not, become sensitized.  (Of course that's the same situation now, the difference is that the RhoGam vaccine is given to all Rh negative women giving birth to an Rh positive foetus.)

*By "at its height" I certainly don't mean to imply that it had never existed before.  Of course it had, but for centuries it had meant unexplained miscarriages/stillbirths/early infant deaths.  Once it was recognised, for a long time there was little that anyone could do to prevent it.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: ladyknight1 on June 06, 2013, 08:04:17 AM
I had to tell someone not to drive with their hazard lights on in the rain. It confuses other drivers, who may think the car is on the shoulder.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on June 06, 2013, 08:52:02 AM
DH and I are both A+ which will work out nicely if either of us ever need a transfusion.  When my second son was born my DH wanted to find out what his blood type was.

My mother knew he was A+ as well and said nastily "Are you questioning the paternity because with you both being A+, all your children will be A+!"

Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: wolfie on June 06, 2013, 08:55:57 AM
DH and I are both A+ which will work out nicely if either of us ever need a transfusion.  When my second son was born my DH wanted to find out what his blood type was.

My mother knew he was A+ as well and said nastily "Are you questioning the paternity because with you both being A+, all your children will be A+!"

Not necessarily. Your kids could be O+ too.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on June 06, 2013, 08:59:37 AM
I kind of wondered that, after thinking about genetics. I don't know what MIL's blood type is but I do know my father is O+ and my mother's A+.  Clearly one of DH's parents was A+ but I don't know and I doubt DH knows which one it was.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: PastryGoddess on June 06, 2013, 09:05:30 AM
I had to tell someone not to drive with their hazard lights on in the rain. It confuses other drivers, who may think the car is on the shoulder.

That's not true everywhere

In my area if the rain is very very heavy, people will drive on the highway with their hazard lights on.  I've only seen it happen during daytime thunderstorms, never at night.  I've never seen anyone drive with their hazards on local streets when the rain is really heavy.

Also in my area people who are hauling something on their car will drive slowly on the highway in the right most lane with their hazards on as well. 
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Post by: wolfie on June 06, 2013, 09:08:00 AM
I kind of wondered that, after thinking about genetics. I don't know what MIL's blood type is but I do know my father is O+ and my mother's A+.  Clearly one of DH's parents was A+ but I don't know and I doubt DH knows which one it was.

My mother is O+ and my father is B+ but all us kids are O+. You are probably AO, so your kids could be O if your husband is also AO. If he is AA then they would have to be A. (But their kids could be A or O or B depending on what their spouse is)
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on June 06, 2013, 09:09:52 AM
I keep meaning to get myself a kit so I can find out what my blood type is, just out of interest.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: siamesecat2965 on June 06, 2013, 09:10:29 AM
I had to tell someone not to drive with their hazard lights on in the rain. It confuses other drivers, who may think the car is on the shoulder.

That's not true everywhere

In my area if the rain is very very heavy, people will drive on the highway with their hazard lights on.  I've only seen it happen during daytime thunderstorms, never at night.  I've never seen anyone drive with their hazards on local streets when the rain is really heavy.

Also in my area people who are hauling something on their car will drive slowly on the highway in the right most lane with their hazards on as well.

I saw it as well one night last summer during a huge torrential thunderstorm, in the dark, where you could not see more than a foot in front of you. Its helpful, esp on the highway, so you know people have slowed down to a very slow crawl, and hopefully no one will smash into them.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Luci on June 06, 2013, 09:21:41 AM
I had to tell someone not to drive with their hazard lights on in the rain. It confuses other drivers, who may think the car is on the shoulder.

That's not true everywhere

In my area if the rain is very very heavy, people will drive on the highway with their hazard lights on.  I've only seen it happen during daytime thunderstorms, never at night.  I've never seen anyone drive with their hazards on local streets when the rain is really heavy.

Also in my area people who are hauling something on their car will drive slowly on the highway in the right most lane with their hazards on as well.

I saw it as well one night last summer during a huge torrential thunderstorm, in the dark, where you could not see more than a foot in front of you. Its helpful, esp on the highway, so you know people have slowed down to a very slow crawl, and hopefully no one will smash into them.

In some states, we must turn our headlights on (dim) when it is raining. Some cars are now programmed for the headlights to turn on automatically when the windshield wipers are turned on if they are not on all the time anyway. We've had two cars where the lights are always on.)
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Post by: ladyknight1 on June 06, 2013, 09:25:01 AM
I had to tell someone not to drive with their hazard lights on in the rain. It confuses other drivers, who may think the car is on the shoulder.

That's not true everywhere

In my area if the rain is very very heavy, people will drive on the highway with their hazard lights on.  I've only seen it happen during daytime thunderstorms, never at night.  I've never seen anyone drive with their hazards on local streets when the rain is really heavy.

Also in my area people who are hauling something on their car will drive slowly on the highway in the right most lane with their hazards on as well.

I saw it as well one night last summer during a huge torrential thunderstorm, in the dark, where you could not see more than a foot in front of you. Its helpful, esp on the highway, so you know people have slowed down to a very slow crawl, and hopefully no one will smash into them.

You might want to check your state laws, as it is illegal here. http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/laws/hazard-light-use/ (http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/laws/hazard-light-use/)
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Post by: WillyNilly on June 06, 2013, 09:27:20 AM
I had to tell someone not to drive with their hazard lights on in the rain. It confuses other drivers, who may think the car is on the shoulder.

If they are driving super slowly - rain or no rain - they should have their hazards on. I think the extremely dangerous and wrong action here is to assume "hazards on = on the shoulder". A car with a problem can sometimes still move, just not quickly - best to put one''s hazards on and get to somewhere safe to address the issue.
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Post by: Virg on June 06, 2013, 10:16:17 AM
SheltieMom wrote:

"I taught computer literacy classes in middle school from 1980 to 2006. When we were told we had to start teaching 1 space at the end of a sentence, you would have thought the world was ending. The reason we were given was that proportional fonts made the second space unnecessary, and the business world wanted them gone because to a computer a space took up just as much memory as any other character. As this was in a time when memory was measured in K (thousands), and everything had to be stored on "floppy" disks which held 720 KB, those extra spaces were lost memory capacity."

This sort of "reasoning" happened a lot when computers were newer.  The reasoning that double spacing sentences consumed too much file space doesn't fit with reality and it never did, but because people were unfamiliar with computers and how data is stored, they came up with this sort of logic to give their practice better credibility.

Virg
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Post by: Outdoor Girl on June 06, 2013, 10:19:47 AM
DH and I are both A+ which will work out nicely if either of us ever need a transfusion.  When my second son was born my DH wanted to find out what his blood type was.

My mother knew he was A+ as well and said nastily "Are you questioning the paternity because with you both being A+, all your children will be A+!"

Not necessarily. Your kids could be O+ too.

They could also turn up A- or O-, if both parents are +-.  My Dad is O+, my Mom is A+, I'm A-.  (And there is no question about my parentage.   ;))
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Post by: nutraxfornerves on June 06, 2013, 10:28:49 AM
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I keep meaning to get myself a kit so I can find out what my blood type is, just out of interest.
If you are eligible to donate blood, you can find out for free by doing just that.
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on June 06, 2013, 10:32:17 AM
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I keep meaning to get myself a kit so I can find out what my blood type is, just out of interest.
If you are eligible to donate blood, you can find out for free by doing just that.

I'm not.
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Post by: wolfie on June 06, 2013, 10:33:08 AM
DH and I are both A+ which will work out nicely if either of us ever need a transfusion.  When my second son was born my DH wanted to find out what his blood type was.

My mother knew he was A+ as well and said nastily "Are you questioning the paternity because with you both being A+, all your children will be A+!"

Not necessarily. Your kids could be O+ too.

They could also turn up A- or O-, if both parents are +-.  My Dad is O+, my Mom is A+, I'm A-.  (And there is no question about my parentage.   ;))

I didn't know the +- were mixed too! Learn something new every day!
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Post by: camlan on June 06, 2013, 10:43:50 AM
SheltieMom wrote:

"I taught computer literacy classes in middle school from 1980 to 2006. When we were told we had to start teaching 1 space at the end of a sentence, you would have thought the world was ending. The reason we were given was that proportional fonts made the second space unnecessary, and the business world wanted them gone because to a computer a space took up just as much memory as any other character. As this was in a time when memory was measured in K (thousands), and everything had to be stored on "floppy" disks which held 720 KB, those extra spaces were lost memory capacity."

This sort of "reasoning" happened a lot when computers were newer.  The reasoning that double spacing sentences consumed too much file space doesn't fit with reality and it never did, but because people were unfamiliar with computers and how data is stored, they came up with this sort of logic to give their practice better credibility.

Virg

This explanation at least sounds better than the one I came up with. I had no idea why the second space had been dropped and no one could tell me.

But it happened right around the time companies were giving all employees their own computers, and I figured it came from all those people who used to have secretaries typing for them but who now had to type their own documents. So they were trying to eliminate as many keystrokes as possible.

And it was around the same time that footnotes and references in academic writing became more streamlined. I figured it was for the same reason--when the authors had to type it all themselves, they eliminated a lot of the fussy commas, semicolons, spacing and other unnecessary bits in the references.
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Post by: Virg on June 06, 2013, 11:44:14 AM
camlan wrote:

"But it happened right around the time companies were giving all employees their own computers, and I figured it came from all those people who used to have secretaries typing for them but who now had to type their own documents. So they were trying to eliminate as many keystrokes as possible."

I suspect it had more to do with fonts that looked decent with single spaces.  As a side note, no matter who types a document it's still the same number of keystrokes, so single spacing won't help in that regard either.

Virg
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Post by: wolfie on June 06, 2013, 11:46:49 AM
camlan wrote:

"But it happened right around the time companies were giving all employees their own computers, and I figured it came from all those people who used to have secretaries typing for them but who now had to type their own documents. So they were trying to eliminate as many keystrokes as possible."

I suspect it had more to do with fonts that looked decent with single spaces.  As a side note, no matter who types a document it's still the same number of keystrokes, so single spacing won't help in that regard either.

Virg

Sure it will - because it is acceptable for you to have to type 200 characters, but I don't want to type that many! ;-D
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: VorFemme on June 06, 2013, 01:35:34 PM
Note - food service regulations may vary in YOUR area.  I am going by the food service regulations in effect in Texas, USA, at the time of the story.

Retired military, second career as a teacher, a little over six foot tall, grown man was refilling his used plate at the buffet.  I pointed out the sign (marked with relevant health code citation) that requested that everyone get a clean plate every time they came back to the buffet.

He'd never seen similar signs, as they were posted below chest level for him....or even belt level (so that shorter people or children under twelve years old could read them).  Another sign requested that all children under a certain age (usually ten years) have a parent or other person go with them to the buffet, to "help them".  As I've seen six year olds "helping" younger kids by grabbing rolls, pizza, or even fried chicken with their hands  :P.....I don't have any problem with someone OLDER helping younger kids.

Just make sure that the older person remembers to use the spoons, tongs, or other serving utensils..... :P :o ??? And a clean plate....
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Post by: Browyn on June 06, 2013, 01:44:46 PM
My mother was the 5th of 8 children. At that time, of course, Rh factor was unknown. (She was born in 1931) The child born just before her had severe developmental delays, we now believe to have been caused by Rh problems. Amazingly, the last 4 children, including my mother, were all Rh-, and had no problems.

my Aunt (my Dad's sister) is Rh-.  back in the 50's she had 3 children (Rh-) without a problem then #4 (Rh+) was jaundice and nothing but lost prgnancies and stillbirths after that.  So I knew a lot about this growing up.  My Mom and Dad were both Rh- as am I.  I am B-, DH is O+ and DS is B+.  I had the shots during the pregnancy and knew I needed one more within 48 (?) hours of his birth.  When I asked the nurse after I had him they were like, "oh you don't need to know, the pediatrician will find out eventually, etc..." then I explained I was Rh-.  They were back within a couple of hours in my room with a shot for me.
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Post by: ClaireC79 on June 06, 2013, 01:49:46 PM
It's 72 hours for the injection.

BTW some places will not type for blood group in these situation - just for the rhesus factor so you'd know if +ve or -ve but not A, B, AB or O
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Post by: gramma dishes on June 06, 2013, 01:59:56 PM

...   my Aunt (my Dad's sister) is Rh-.  back in the 50's she had 3 children (Rh-) without a problem then #4 (Rh+) was jaundice and nothing but lost pregnancies and stillbirths after that.  So I knew a lot about this growing up.  My Mom and Dad were both Rh- as am I.  I am B-, DH is O+ and DS is B+.  I had the shots during the pregnancy and knew I needed one more within 48 (?) hours of his birth.  When I asked the nurse after I had him they were like, "oh you don't need to know, the pediatrician will find out eventually, etc..." then I explained I was Rh-.  They were back within a couple of hours in my room with a shot for me.

I'm amazed that your OB/GYN didn't have that written in bright red letters and giant print right there on your medical records.  It's really his/her responsibility to know that his patient will be requiring that shot and order it for them!  (Isn't it?)
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Post by: Browyn on June 06, 2013, 02:17:04 PM

...   my Aunt (my Dad's sister) is Rh-.  back in the 50's she had 3 children (Rh-) without a problem then #4 (Rh+) was jaundice and nothing but lost pregnancies and stillbirths after that.  So I knew a lot about this growing up.  My Mom and Dad were both Rh- as am I.  I am B-, DH is O+ and DS is B+.  I had the shots during the pregnancy and knew I needed one more within 48 (?) hours of his birth.  When I asked the nurse after I had him they were like, "oh you don't need to know, the pediatrician will find out eventually, etc..." then I explained I was Rh-.  They were back within a couple of hours in my room with a shot for me.

I'm amazed that your OB/GYN didn't have that written in bright red letters and giant print right there on your medical records.  It's really his/her responsibility to know that his patient will be requiring that shot and order it for them!  (Isn't it?)

I had an emergency c section at 4 in the morning and 10 weeks early.  They were probably still getting caught up on my records.  The hospital was awesome and my 2 pound preemie is a healthy bright normal 8 year old.

edit to fix the quote tree
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Post by: Hazmat on June 06, 2013, 02:34:04 PM
Yes, we do, in fact, vote for Senators.

Only since 1913.  Before then, they were elected by the state legislature:
"The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, chosen by the legislature thereof for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Direct_Election_Senators.htm (http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Direct_Election_Senators.htm)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Lexophile on June 06, 2013, 02:40:47 PM
Oh I have two really, really good ones.

I had a friend (about 22 yo) whose boyfriend was having problems with his housemates. He wanted to get out of his lease because the house was a dump. She made the comment that they had evidence there were rats in the basement of the house. She commented that they were, "probably laying eggs down there." I had to explain to her that rats don't lay eggs.

The best one, though, was when I was in college and watching tv with a friend. She was surfing the channels and we briefly saw a commercial advertising the Rolling Stones and the tour they were about to embark upon. I made some snide comment like, "Oh, look. It's the tour of the geriatrics."

No lie, my friend turned to me without batting an eyelash and said, "I don't even know who Jerry Atrix is."
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Post by: HelenB on June 06, 2013, 04:54:17 PM
Just after we'd left college, a friend called me because she was confused about something she was trying to cook.  It called for a diced up clove of garlic, but she couldn't figure out how to dice it.  She told me that she'd purchased something in a bottle, so I thought it was chopped garlic, so told her she'd just need to spoon some out.

She told me that it didn't look right.  I got her to describe what she'd bought:  small, round, brown, smelled spicy.

She'd never known that there was a difference between cloves of garlic and whole cloves (the spice). ;)
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on June 06, 2013, 04:56:41 PM
Just after we'd left college, a friend called me because she was confused about something she was trying to cook.  It called for a diced up clove of garlic, but she couldn't figure out how to dice it.  She told me that she'd purchased something in a bottle, so I thought it was chopped garlic, so told her she'd just need to spoon some out.

She told me that it didn't look right.  I got her to describe what she'd bought:  small, round, brown, smelled spicy.

She'd never known that there was a difference between cloves of garlic and whole cloves (the spice). ;)

Someone I knew mixed up what a "clove" and a "bulb" of garlic were.  Thankfully he was put right, or that could have been a rather unpleasant dinner.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: marcel on June 06, 2013, 05:29:31 PM
I have to admit (and out myself in this thread) I have never heard of putting two spaces after a period. Is it something that happened with typewriters only?

Yes.  Those of us who learned to type on a typewriter will put in two spaces after a period.  Those of you who grew up learning to type on a computer keyboard probably on put in one.
Still the question is if this is also a cultural thing, because I have learned typing on a typewriter and had at least 2 different classes, but I have never learned or heard of people learning to use two spaces.

The two spaces also does not make sense to me, exactly because you already have the period first, which essentialy creates a space, and thn the space, so you are creating a really big (3 spaces) gap with two spaces in my opinion.
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Post by: jedikaiti on June 06, 2013, 05:51:49 PM
Just after we'd left college, a friend called me because she was confused about something she was trying to cook.  It called for a diced up clove of garlic, but she couldn't figure out how to dice it.  She told me that she'd purchased something in a bottle, so I thought it was chopped garlic, so told her she'd just need to spoon some out.

She told me that it didn't look right.  I got her to describe what she'd bought:  small, round, brown, smelled spicy.

She'd never known that there was a difference between cloves of garlic and whole cloves (the spice). ;)

Someone I knew mixed up what a "clove" and a "bulb" of garlic were.  Thankfully he was put right, or that could have been a rather unpleasant dinner.

I didn't know how many cloves to a bulb.

That chicken with "40 cloves" could kill Dracula at 100 yards.
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Post by: baglady on June 06, 2013, 06:05:07 PM
Just after we'd left college, a friend called me because she was confused about something she was trying to cook.  It called for a diced up clove of garlic, but she couldn't figure out how to dice it.  She told me that she'd purchased something in a bottle, so I thought it was chopped garlic, so told her she'd just need to spoon some out.

She told me that it didn't look right.  I got her to describe what she'd bought:  small, round, brown, smelled spicy.

She'd never known that there was a difference between cloves of garlic and whole cloves (the spice). ;)

Someone I knew mixed up what a "clove" and a "bulb" of garlic were.  Thankfully he was put right, or that could have been a rather unpleasant dinner.

I did the same thing. Fortunately, it was tomato sauce for an organization's spaghetti supper (everyone in the organization was required to contribute a gallon), and it got mixed in with many other gallons of (presumably less garlicky) sauce.
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Post by: kherbert05 on June 06, 2013, 06:19:27 PM
I think somewhere here is a story where the kid had been told the "when a man and a woman love each other very much they get married and God sends them a baby" story. She repeated it to another kid her announced, "My Mom and Dad were never married and they hate each other.  >:D


That was my oldest niece (Sister's Stepdaughter).
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: kherbert05 on June 06, 2013, 06:21:06 PM
Coffee cake is a common cake or sweetbread available in many countries. The term "coffee cake" can refer to any of the following:
 A class of cakes intended to be eaten alongside coffee (for example, as part of a breakfast meal) or that may be eaten during a "coffee break" or offered to guests as a gesture of hospitality on or around a coffee table. Under this definition, a coffee cake does not necessarily contain coffee. They are typically single layer cakes that may be square or rectangular like a Stollen or loaf-shaped rectangular cakes, or they may be ring shaped. Coffee cakes may be flavored with cinnamon or other spices, seeds, nuts and fruits. These cakes sometimes have a crumbly or crumb topping called streusel and/or a light glaze drizzle. Some similarity to teacakes may be found, though teacakes can be individually sized baked items served with tea.
 A cake, often sponge cake, which is made with coffee or has a coffee flavor.

Via: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_cake)

When I think of coffee cake, I think of the first one, it's a sweet cake pastry with cinnamon and crumblies on top. When you add fruit to it, it's called a Danish.

Yes, that's what I was thinking of. Funny, I even double-checked a few recipes online to make sure it wasn't some weird local quirk before posting that. :)  A coworker once brought in a coffee-flavored cake and just called it "coffee cake", and didn't understand why people were confused when they tasted the coffee.

And don't forget Tea Cakes. I've never known anyone to put tea in them. Rather they are eaten for tea the meal.
Amelia Bedelia did - but she made some other cakes that saved the day.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: gramma dishes on June 06, 2013, 07:46:49 PM


Someone I knew mixed up what a "clove" and a "bulb" of garlic were.  Thankfully he was put right, or that could have been a rather unpleasant dinner.

I did that when I was first married.  You could smell garlic throughout the entire apartment building for days!  God love my husband, he ate the stuff.  And survived!  ;D
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Post by: Outdoor Girl on June 06, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
I didn't know how many cloves to a bulb.

It varies.  Some of my home grown stuff, I only get 4 cloves out of one bulb.  Granted, they're large cloves.  In commercial garlic, there's usually 6 to 10 smaller cloves.
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Post by: BB-VA on June 06, 2013, 09:37:41 PM
I kind of wondered that, after thinking about genetics. I don't know what MIL's blood type is but I do know my father is O+ and my mother's A+.  Clearly one of DH's parents was A+ but I don't know and I doubt DH knows which one it was.

My mother is O+ and my father is B+ but all us kids are O+. You are probably AO, so your kids could be O if your husband is also AO. If he is AA then they would have to be A. (But their kids could be A or O or B depending on what their spouse is)

My mother was B- and Dad was A+.  I didn't know Mother's blood type until until I got pregnant (Mother died when I was 3).    I had just a little bit of a freakout when Dad told me - I knew I was A but didn't know the Rh type as the college lab where I did the typing didn't have the Rh factor chemicals.  Fortunately, I turned out to be A+, as are my husband and our daughter (second most common type).  I think my FIL was A+ as well, but I don't know my MIL's type.
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Post by: jedikaiti on June 07, 2013, 12:27:08 AM
I didn't know how many cloves to a bulb.

It varies.  Some of my home grown stuff, I only get 4 cloves out of one bulb.  Granted, they're large cloves.  In commercial garlic, there's usually 6 to 10 smaller cloves.

Yea, I bought a bunch that looked like they had 5-6 cloves each, from the outside. More like 10. I thought maybe they were just unusually small (I had previously only cooked with jars of diced garlic, so I had no idea) and used a bunch.

Dracula killing chicken, no joke.
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Post by: Pen^2 on June 07, 2013, 01:31:14 AM
On the blood type thing... I was once teaching a year 10 general science class about the immune system, and we did two lessons just on blood types. They learnt how they are inherited and who can donate blood to whom. All good right?

One of the students was adopted. No big deal, except that his adoptive parents had made the decision never to tell him (and he was 16 at this point). He realised that since he was AB but both of his parents were O, then even Bombay syndrome (a rare genetic thing that basically masks blood types) couldn't explain it. I found all this out after unexpectedly receiving an angry phone call from his mother: how dare I teach him the kind of general knowledge which he could easily have found independently in any public library science textbook or Wikipedia which would not only make their lie to him apparent, but also show how poorly they had thought it out by revealing telling things like their bloodtypes to him!?

But you know. Shame on me. They want their child educated, just not educated enough for him to realise their lies, I guess.
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Post by: Venus193 on June 07, 2013, 05:41:42 AM
By the gods, the depth of people's attempts at control never cease to amaze me.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: scotcat60 on June 07, 2013, 05:59:57 AM
Quote from: Blondie on June 04, 2013, 10:11:20 AM
I have to admit (and out myself in this thread) I have never heard of putting two spaces after a period. Is it something that happened with typewriters only?

Yes.  Those of us who learned to type on a typewriter will put in two spaces after a period.  Those of you who grew up learning to type on a computer keyboard probably on put in one.
Still the question is if this is also a cultural thing, because I have learned typing on a typewriter and had at least 2 different classes, but I have never learned or heard of people learning to use two spaces.

When I learned to type in 1970, I was told to leave one space after the full stop.  I never heard the two space  rule. I was also taught to type a lower case "l" instead of the numeral 1, because not all typewriters had that numeral on the keyboard. The small portable typewriter I had at home did not. When I started work, and was given a typewriter with a "1" on the keyboard, I had to have a rethink, as using this was the house style in the office. I was also taught to type addresses in block form, but older letters used the indent form, and I had been taught that at primary school when addressing envelopes by hand. It's just what is fashionable in some cases.
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Post by: Dazi on June 07, 2013, 06:02:37 AM
I'm always surprised at the number of woman who take oral contraceptives that are not aware taking antibiotics decreases their effectiveness. 

Every doctor and pharmacist I know goes over and over and over that point.  Yet I cannot even begin to tell you how many young woman I have known that are SHOCKED when they find out they are pregnant soon after a round of antibiotics.  I really thought it was common knowledge.
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Post by: MariaE on June 07, 2013, 06:25:08 AM
I'm always surprised at the number of woman who take oral contraceptives that are not aware taking antibiotics decreases their effectiveness. 

Every doctor and pharmacist I know goes over and over and over that point.  Yet I cannot even begin to tell you how many young woman I have known that are SHOCKED when they find out they are pregnant soon after a round of antibiotics.  I really thought it was common knowledge.
Nope - not common knowledge. At least this is the first I've heard of it. However, if a doctor was to tell me that you can bet I'd pay attention!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jones on June 07, 2013, 06:42:54 AM
My first typing and basic computer class was in 1999. I was taught the two-space-after-a-period thing. The computer flagged an error if I didn't have the extra in there. As I'd previously done some self teaching and had to relearn that, it was pretty irritating.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Carotte on June 07, 2013, 06:44:29 AM
I'm always surprised at the number of woman who take oral contraceptives that are not aware taking antibiotics decreases their effectiveness. 

Every doctor and pharmacist I know goes over and over and over that point.  Yet I cannot even begin to tell you how many young woman I have known that are SHOCKED when they find out they are pregnant soon after a round of antibiotics.  I really thought it was common knowledge.

It should be common knowledge to girls using oral contraceptives, but, I just checked mine's info pamphlet, and there's nothing about antibiotics. It tells you to tell your doctor/pharmacist if you've taken other drugs, but then it only gives a list off drugs that sounds like names of pokemons, not 'class' of drugs like antibiotics. No way I would remember them only from this pamphlet. So yeah, it falls to the doctor and pharmacist, you can only hope the girl tells them what she's taking then. And actually listen.

What isn't on the pamphlet either (on this one or the previous one I had) is that you don't have 'real' menstruation when you take the pill, they're fake one that are no indication whatsoever to your pregnant/not pregnant statue. No one had told me about it either, had to read it on the internet.(big downside, I'm a natural worrier, I don't care if there's no reason for it to have failed, I'd use a pregnancy test every week if it was possible..)

But I'm always amazed at the amount of misinformation and pure cluelessness (and stupidity sometimes) that you get on health related forums when it comes to this... "lulz, I had intercourses with my boyfriend 3 weeks ago but I only took my pill twice this month and I think the condom broke, and my period is late by two weeks, do you think I could be pregnant?*"  :o

*horrible spelling left out for our sanity sake.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: lowspark on June 07, 2013, 08:05:47 AM
Quote from: Blondie on June 04, 2013, 10:11:20 AM
I have to admit (and out myself in this thread) I have never heard of putting two spaces after a period. Is it something that happened with typewriters only?

Yes.  Those of us who learned to type on a typewriter will put in two spaces after a period.  Those of you who grew up learning to type on a computer keyboard probably on put in one.
Still the question is if this is also a cultural thing, because I have learned typing on a typewriter and had at least 2 different classes, but I have never learned or heard of people learning to use two spaces.

When I learned to type in 1970, I was told to leave one space after the full stop.  I never heard the two space  rule. I was also taught to type a lower case "l" instead of the numeral 1, because not all typewriters had that numeral on the keyboard. The small portable typewriter I had at home did not. When I started work, and was given a typewriter with a "1" on the keyboard, I had to have a rethink, as using this was the house style in the office. I was also taught to type addresses in block form, but older letters used the indent form, and I had been taught that at primary school when addressing envelopes by hand. It's just what is fashionable in some cases.

Regarding the bolded above, typing a lower case "L" instead of the number one .... Yes! I had forgotten all about that!! It was not something I was taught in school though. The typewriters at school that I learned how to type on, circa 1973, had 1s. But the typewriter we had at home that my father used did not and we always used an "l". The funny thing is, it didn't even seem odd. It's just how it was done. I still have that typewriter, it sits on my bookshelves on display. I'm going to look at that missing "1" tonight!

And yeah, I was taught to put two spaces after the period. It was never explained why, that's just "how it was done". You got counted off on your timed writings if you only put one space. It took me about an ounce of retraining when I first started using computers to just hit the spacebar once. Not that hard really.

And here's a bit of trivia, not sure if it fits the category or not, but it fits in with the typewriter discussion theme. The reason for the order of the letters on the QWERTY keyboard is to minimize the probability of the keys hitting each other on the way to and from striking the paper, thus reducing the risk of a jam. Unfortunately, we are stuck with this configuration to this day instead of one which would minimize finger movement and increase efficiency and speed.

Anyone who ever did type on one of those old typewriters can probably remember they keys jamming. They evenutally replaced those keys with the rotating ball, which at that point, already made the QWERTY obsolete.

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Post by: HelenB on June 07, 2013, 08:40:03 AM
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... I was also taught to type a lower case "l" instead of the numeral 1, because not all typewriters had that numeral on the keyboard. The small portable typewriter I had at home did not.

My dad had been taught to use the lower case "l" for one and upper case "O" for zero.  We were both taking a computer programming class at the same time (me in high school, him with the military).  I had to tell him that while the human eye could see "l" and "1" as the same thing,  the computer wouldn't -- to the computer they were completely and obviously different.  He had to break a lifetime's typing habit to get his programs to run.
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Post by: Hillia on June 07, 2013, 08:44:17 AM
I learned to type in 1981, and we were taught the 2 space rule, how to set tabs, and how to center as a PP mentioned.  We also learned how to properly fold a letter: for a legal sized envelope, it was in thirds with the folds going in opposite directions, so when you held the letter at the top (and it should be inserted into the envelope so that the recipient naturally takes hold of the top edge) it naturally unfolds into reading position, not the 'both ends in to the middle' method that is typical today.  For a letter sized envelope, you folded in half crossways, then in thirds, so that again, it fell open with as few 'unfoldings' as possible.  And you didn't match the corners, you left about 1/4" at the top to form an easy to grab edge.

We also learned about the letter "l" for "1", and were sternly cautioned to never, ever cheat and use the percent sign % instead of 'c/o' for 'care of'.
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Post by: stitchygreyanonymouse on June 07, 2013, 08:51:44 AM
And here's a bit of trivia, not sure if it fits the category or not, but it fits in with the typewriter discussion theme. The reason for the order of the letters on the QWERTY keyboard is to minimize the probability of the keys hitting each other on the way to and from striking the paper, thus reducing the risk of a jam. Unfortunately, we are stuck with this configuration to this day instead of one which would minimize finger movement and increase efficiency and speed.

Anyone who ever did type on one of those old typewriters can probably remember they keys jamming. They evenutally replaced those keys with the rotating ball, which at that point, already made the QWERTY obsolete.

The factual basis of that trivia is up for debate, and to date, no clearly more efficient key arrangement has been proposed—research claiming that DVORAK is better is often called into question, particularly since the original research was done by the inventor himself.

Likewise, even with QWERY, typewriters from as recent as the 70s and 80s would jam if you were a fast enough typist. I know I jammed them more than once. I’d think its stronghold has more to do with the trouble of retraining all the current typists, and the cost of replacing all the existing technology.

One of many resources about the correctness of the QWERTY myth: http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/design/2013/05/fact-of-fiction-the-legend-of-the-qwerty-keyboard/ (http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/design/2013/05/fact-of-fiction-the-legend-of-the-qwerty-keyboard/)

Oh, count me as another double-to-single space retrainer, even though I never even took an official keyboarding class. I learned the double space from a secretary coursework book that my grandmother had laying around that I decided to go through and do the exercices on. Now that my phone will insert a period if I double space, there’s a whole new paradigm to learn.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: WillyNilly on June 07, 2013, 09:00:40 AM
I'm always surprised at the number of woman who take oral contraceptives that are not aware taking antibiotics decreases their effectiveness. 

Every doctor and pharmacist I know goes over and over and over that point.  Yet I cannot even begin to tell you how many young woman I have known that are SHOCKED when they find out they are pregnant soon after a round of antibiotics.  I really thought it was common knowledge.
Nope - not common knowledge. At least this is the first I've heard of it. However, if a doctor was to tell me that you can bet I'd pay attention!

What amazes me is the number of women who take the Pill and don't read the insert. The Pill is an amazing drug, but its also a very serious one. Regardless of a Dr or pharmacist mentioning the effects of antibiotics on the Pill's effectiveness there is no excuse for not knowing - every packet of Pills comes with an information insert and any woman who ingests the Pill without reading (or annually re-reading) that insert is truly doing herself a great disservice. Antibiotics aren't the only thing that can reduce the Pill's effectiveness.
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Post by: lowspark on June 07, 2013, 09:41:25 AM
And here's a bit of trivia, not sure if it fits the category or not, but it fits in with the typewriter discussion theme. The reason for the order of the letters on the QWERTY keyboard is to minimize the probability of the keys hitting each other on the way to and from striking the paper, thus reducing the risk of a jam. Unfortunately, we are stuck with this configuration to this day instead of one which would minimize finger movement and increase efficiency and speed.

Anyone who ever did type on one of those old typewriters can probably remember they keys jamming. They evenutally replaced those keys with the rotating ball, which at that point, already made the QWERTY obsolete.

The factual basis of that trivia is up for debate, and to date, no clearly more efficient key arrangement has been proposed—research claiming that DVORAK is better is often called into question, particularly since the original research was done by the inventor himself.

Likewise, even with QWERY, typewriters from as recent as the 70s and 80s would jam if you were a fast enough typist. I know I jammed them more than once. I’d think its stronghold has more to do with the trouble of retraining all the current typists, and the cost of replacing all the existing technology.

One of many resources about the correctness of the QWERTY myth: http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/design/2013/05/fact-of-fiction-the-legend-of-the-qwerty-keyboard/ (http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/design/2013/05/fact-of-fiction-the-legend-of-the-qwerty-keyboard/)

Oh, count me as another double-to-single space retrainer, even though I never even took an official keyboarding class. I learned the double space from a secretary coursework book that my grandmother had laying around that I decided to go through and do the exercices on. Now that my phone will insert a period if I double space, there’s a whole new paradigm to learn.

That was an interesting article. Maybe we'll never know the actual truth of the origin of QWERTY but I will say that just because that design isn't the most efficient way to avoid jams in the old style typewriter, that doesn't mean it wasn't their intent. In other words, they might have meant to accomplish that but weren't as successful as they could have been.

I'm not sure I buy the telegraph operator story as it just seems sort of contrived to me. But again, we'll probably never know.

It seems to me that it wouldn't be all that hard to create a new, more efficient keyboard and train new users (kids!) to use it to the point where maybe 50 years from now, QWERTY could become a relic for oldies (like me!) and 100 years from now, it could become extinct. But there's got to be enough money in it to make it worth someone's time and effort. Who knows if it will ever happen.
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Post by: ladyknight1 on June 07, 2013, 09:42:20 AM
I can vouch for the truth of the antibiotics canceling out birth control pills. That is why DS is here.  ;D

If they changed the keyboards, I would be sunk. I can type without looking at the keys and have been doing so for 34 years! DH would be alright with it, as he hunts and pecks anyway.
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Post by: Slartibartfast on June 07, 2013, 09:46:25 AM
It seems to me that it wouldn't be all that hard to create a new, more efficient keyboard and train new users (kids!) to use it to the point where maybe 50 years from now, QWERTY could become a relic for oldies (like me!) and 100 years from now, it could become extinct. But there's got to be enough money in it to make it worth someone's time and effort. Who knows if it will ever happen.

Yeah, because that totally worked for new math and for the metric system  :P

(Okay, okay, the rest of the world seems to understand the metric system just fine - we Americans like being special, I guess?)
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Post by: cwm on June 07, 2013, 09:53:08 AM
I can vouch for the truth of the antibiotics canceling out birth control pills. That is why DS is here.  ;D

If they changed the keyboards, I would be sunk. I can type without looking at the keys and have been doing so for 34 years! DH would be alright with it, as he hunts and pecks anyway.

I don't bother looking either, which caused some interesting things at college. My roommate, as a joke, changed some of the keys on my keyboard. I didn't notice because I don't look, but when someone else had to borrow my computer to send an email to their professor, the email came out all sorts of mangled. It took me a while to get everything back to where it was supposed to go because I had to sit there and THINK about where the keys went. That was a fun bit of time.
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Post by: Carotte on June 07, 2013, 10:06:20 AM
I'm always surprised at the number of woman who take oral contraceptives that are not aware taking antibiotics decreases their effectiveness. 

Every doctor and pharmacist I know goes over and over and over that point.  Yet I cannot even begin to tell you how many young woman I have known that are SHOCKED when they find out they are pregnant soon after a round of antibiotics.  I really thought it was common knowledge.
Nope - not common knowledge. At least this is the first I've heard of it. However, if a doctor was to tell me that you can bet I'd pay attention!

What amazes me is the number of women who take the Pill and don't read the insert. The Pill is an amazing drug, but its also a very serious one. Regardless of a Dr or pharmacist mentioning the effects of antibiotics on the Pill's effectiveness there is no excuse for not knowing - every packet of Pills comes with an information insert and any woman who ingests the Pill without reading (or annually re-reading) that insert is truly doing herself a great disservice. Antibiotics aren't the only thing that can reduce the Pill's effectiveness.

Like I said earlier, my insert couldn't be less clear, you have to know the name of the molecule for it to be any usefull. Would I have retained that antibiotics would make the pill useless, yes. Did I retained that rifabutine, rifampicine and griséofulvine would make it useless? no. I didn't.
If I used modafinil or topiramate it would probably have clicked, since they are long-term medications for epilepsy (from what I could gather from a quick glance).
So my point is, I still blame the user for not seeking knowledge, the problem is tri-fold (wrote a 60 page paper on that), but I also blame the manufactures of my pill.
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Post by: Pen^2 on June 07, 2013, 10:12:18 AM
I'm always surprised at the number of woman who take oral contraceptives that are not aware taking antibiotics decreases their effectiveness. 

Every doctor and pharmacist I know goes over and over and over that point.  Yet I cannot even begin to tell you how many young woman I have known that are SHOCKED when they find out they are pregnant soon after a round of antibiotics.  I really thought it was common knowledge.

I think a lot of people don't bother to understand the medicines and things they take. I've had plenty of people tell me to take antibiotics to rid myself of a cold virus  ::) and I knew at least one person who said, "my foot feels so much better after that X-ray!"
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Post by: TootsNYC on June 07, 2013, 10:30:03 AM
It seems to me that it wouldn't be all that hard to create a new, more efficient keyboard and train new users (kids!) to use it to the point where maybe 50 years from now, QWERTY could become a relic for oldies (like me!) and 100 years from now, it could become extinct. But there's got to be enough money in it to make it worth someone's time and effort. Who knows if it will ever happen.

Especially now that so many keyboards are separate items and are connected to an electronic computing device of some sort, which could be told to recognize the alternate keyboard setting OR the original.

So even on the same computer, you could buy a second (alternate) keyboard for your kid to you, and you could switch back and forth.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on June 07, 2013, 10:39:26 AM
I can vouch for the truth of the antibiotics canceling out birth control pills. That is why DS is here.  ;D

If they changed the keyboards, I would be sunk. I can type without looking at the keys and have been doing so for 34 years! DH would be alright with it, as he hunts and pecks anyway.

I was just thinking that myself.  The QWERTY set up works naturally for me by now and I can type rather fast and without looking at my hands.
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Post by: lowspark on June 07, 2013, 10:48:01 AM
It seems to me that it wouldn't be all that hard to create a new, more efficient keyboard and train new users (kids!) to use it to the point where maybe 50 years from now, QWERTY could become a relic for oldies (like me!) and 100 years from now, it could become extinct. But there's got to be enough money in it to make it worth someone's time and effort. Who knows if it will ever happen.

Especially now that so many keyboards are separate items and are connected to an electronic computing device of some sort, which could be told to recognize the alternate keyboard setting OR the original.

So even on the same computer, you could buy a second (alternate) keyboard for your kid to you, and you could switch back and forth.

Exactly. It would just be a matter of installing some software and having an extra usb cord plugged in. I think it's just a matter of time before someone does this.

And I don't think there is any fear that the QWERTY would just suddenly disappear overnight. It would be a gradual process whereby the new keyboards would eventually be outselling the QWERTYs till the demand for QWERTYs just dwindled down to nothing.
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Post by: Onyx_TKD on June 07, 2013, 11:01:30 AM
And here's a bit of trivia, not sure if it fits the category or not, but it fits in with the typewriter discussion theme. The reason for the order of the letters on the QWERTY keyboard is to minimize the probability of the keys hitting each other on the way to and from striking the paper, thus reducing the risk of a jam. Unfortunately, we are stuck with this configuration to this day instead of one which would minimize finger movement and increase efficiency and speed.

Anyone who ever did type on one of those old typewriters can probably remember they keys jamming. They evenutally replaced those keys with the rotating ball, which at that point, already made the QWERTY obsolete.

The factual basis of that trivia is up for debate, and to date, no clearly more efficient key arrangement has been proposed—research claiming that DVORAK is better is often called into question, particularly since the original research was done by the inventor himself.

Likewise, even with QWERY, typewriters from as recent as the 70s and 80s would jam if you were a fast enough typist. I know I jammed them more than once. I’d think its stronghold has more to do with the trouble of retraining all the current typists, and the cost of replacing all the existing technology.

One of many resources about the correctness of the QWERTY myth: http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/design/2013/05/fact-of-fiction-the-legend-of-the-qwerty-keyboard/ (http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/design/2013/05/fact-of-fiction-the-legend-of-the-qwerty-keyboard/)

Oh, count me as another double-to-single space retrainer, even though I never even took an official keyboarding class. I learned the double space from a secretary coursework book that my grandmother had laying around that I decided to go through and do the exercices on. Now that my phone will insert a period if I double space, there’s a whole new paradigm to learn.

That was an interesting article. Maybe we'll never know the actual truth of the origin of QWERTY but I will say that just because that design isn't the most efficient way to avoid jams in the old style typewriter, that doesn't mean it wasn't their intent. In other words, they might have meant to accomplish that but weren't as successful as they could have been.

I'm not sure I buy the telegraph operator story as it just seems sort of contrived to me. But again, we'll probably never know.

It seems to me that it wouldn't be all that hard to create a new, more efficient keyboard and train new users (kids!) to use it to the point where maybe 50 years from now, QWERTY could become a relic for oldies (like me!) and 100 years from now, it could become extinct. But there's got to be enough money in it to make it worth someone's time and effort. Who knows if it will ever happen.

One of the beauties of computers is that you don't have to use the keyboard layout printed on your physical keyboard. You can tell your computer to interpret the keys as a different layout. For example, for Windows: http://www.microsoft.com/enable/training/windowsxp/keyboardlayout.aspx (http://www.microsoft.com/enable/training/windowsxp/keyboardlayout.aspx). If you don't like QWERTY, you can switch very easily. No need to wait for a large-scale shift.
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Post by: Virg on June 07, 2013, 11:07:30 AM
lowspark wrote:

"It seems to me that it wouldn't be all that hard to create a new, more efficient keyboard and train new users (kids!) to use it to the point where maybe 50 years from now, QWERTY could become a relic for oldies (like me!) and 100 years from now, it could become extinct. But there's got to be enough money in it to make it worth someone's time and effort. Who knows if it will ever happen."

The problem with this is that there really needs to be a motivating factor driving this change, and that motivation just isn't there.  There are plenty of arguments to be made about more efficient keyboard designs, but those arguments almost always fail to address the fact that the vast majority of keyboard users don't type at a fast enough speed that the QWERTY layout interferes with their ability to interface, so gains in efficiency and speed just don't motivate people enough to bother changing.  It's exactly the same problem that the adoption of the Metric system suffered here in the U.S., where people didn't have any deep need for a different system of weights and measures so there was little motivation to drive the change.  You could try to force the change by training kids on a new keyboard layout in school, but then they'll go home and sit down at their home machines with the old layout.  Sure, they could just hook up a second keyboard but what will convince mom and dad to go buy that second keyboard and deal with two of them?  And then you'll get to deal with parents who balk at the change because they don't see the point in learning a new layout.

Virg
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Post by: TootsNYC on June 07, 2013, 11:10:07 AM
Virg has a point. (It's why the metric system hasn't really caught on for most people's daily lives--there's just no benefit to switching.)

I've heard that in some intensive data-entry jobs, there *are* alternate keyboards. And in those situations, the benefit is strong enough for people to learn the other keyboard.

But in most people's daily lives, they don't really need to type that much faster anyway.
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Post by: nuit93 on June 07, 2013, 11:21:07 AM
I'm always surprised at the number of woman who take oral contraceptives that are not aware taking antibiotics decreases their effectiveness. 

Every doctor and pharmacist I know goes over and over and over that point.  Yet I cannot even begin to tell you how many young woman I have known that are SHOCKED when they find out they are pregnant soon after a round of antibiotics.  I really thought it was common knowledge.

I learned it in high school health class, years before I needed to go on it myself...unfortunately, with "abstinence-only" education being fairly common in the U.S., I'm not surprised that so many young women aren't aware of this.
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Post by: lowspark on June 07, 2013, 11:21:53 AM
You may have a point. I don't really have a dog in this race. I'm completely and irrevocably married to QWERTY. It just sort of interests me.

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the vast majority of keyboard users don't type at a fast enough speed that the QWERTY layout interferes with their ability to interface

I maybe misinterpretting that statement but isn't the very fact that most people don't type fast enough specifically due to the layout of the keyboard? In other words, those very people would indeed type much faster if the keyboard were set up better. Theoretically of course. And (if it is indeeed true) then therein lies the incentive.
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Post by: TootsNYC on June 07, 2013, 11:27:53 AM
No--it's that they haven't trained for speed.

I have typed at 140 wpm in the past, on QWERTY. But that's because I trained in typing class (up to 90pm then, when everybody else was excited about hitting 65) and on the job when I composed on a non-electric typewriter.

I got proficient at grouping words MENTALLY into sets of letters (i.e. sets of fingerstrokes), and so I'm very fast.

But I am almost always the fastest typist around.

However, even though I am markedly faster than other people, it really doesn't offer me any benefit over my slower coworkers, because we don't type that much at a time. Few of us do raw data entry--we compose emails; we write articles. We have to think as we type, and that actually slows us down. (It slows ME down--I only hit the high speeds when I'm transcribing.)
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Post by: Kimblee on June 07, 2013, 11:39:43 AM
On the blood type thing... I was once teaching a year 10 general science class about the immune system, and we did two lessons just on blood types. They learnt how they are inherited and who can donate blood to whom. All good right?

One of the students was adopted. No big deal, except that his adoptive parents had made the decision never to tell him (and he was 16 at this point). He realised that since he was AB but both of his parents were O, then even Bombay syndrome (a rare genetic thing that basically masks blood types) couldn't explain it. I found all this out after unexpectedly receiving an angry phone call from his mother: how dare I teach him the kind of general knowledge which he could easily have found independently in any public library science textbook or Wikipedia which would not only make their lie to him apparent, but also show how poorly they had thought it out by revealing telling things like their bloodtypes to him!?

But you know. Shame on me. They want their child educated, just not educated enough for him to realise their lies, I guess.

A friend of mine's parents made the decission not to tell his brothers that they're adopted. Because their mosque told them that it could be hurtful to the children to know this and that there is plenty of time once they are adults to discover this, once they are older and can understand as adults that they are still very loved.

The problem? Other than the three youngest (adopted) brothers, the rest of the family are very middle eastern. They three youngest: One is pretty obviously biracial (Black and Asian as far as we can tell) and the other two are utterly white. Once is a grey eyed blonde, one is a blue eyed red head. Oh, and the older of the three was adopted at age six. One thing is true though, they ARE very loved. And their parents are determined not to admit to the whole adoption thing. Even to those of us who have known the family since before the adoption.

Something tells me they're gonna figure it out before adulthood...

Cute fact: The six year old hated the name he was given as a baby. HATED it. So after he was adopted he got a name change and was given a choice what name he wanted. He wanted to share his new daddy's name, so now he does. His father is of course, terribly proud of this fact.
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Post by: Sharnita on June 07, 2013, 11:41:17 AM
I'm always surprised at the number of woman who take oral contraceptives that are not aware taking antibiotics decreases their effectiveness. 

Every doctor and pharmacist I know goes over and over and over that point.  Yet I cannot even begin to tell you how many young woman I have known that are SHOCKED when they find out they are pregnant soon after a round of antibiotics.  I really thought it was common knowledge.

I learned it in high school health class, years before I needed to go on it myself...unfortunately, with "abstinence-only" education being fairly common in the U.S., I'm not surprised that so many young women aren't aware of this.

A lot of women don't take it as birth control but rather to treat other issues.  Regardless of why somebody is taking it one would hope that if their doctor and/or pharmacist knew they were taking it and had a script for antibiotics the issue wold be addressed. Even if you "knew" about the conflict you might not consider it when you are sick, recovering from surgery, etc.
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Post by: Outdoor Girl on June 07, 2013, 12:10:38 PM
On the blood type thing... I was once teaching a year 10 general science class about the immune system, and we did two lessons just on blood types. They learnt how they are inherited and who can donate blood to whom. All good right?

One of the students was adopted. No big deal, except that his adoptive parents had made the decision never to tell him (and he was 16 at this point). He realised that since he was AB but both of his parents were O, then even Bombay syndrome (a rare genetic thing that basically masks blood types) couldn't explain it. I found all this out after unexpectedly receiving an angry phone call from his mother: how dare I teach him the kind of general knowledge which he could easily have found independently in any public library science textbook or Wikipedia which would not only make their lie to him apparent, but also show how poorly they had thought it out by revealing telling things like their bloodtypes to him!?

But you know. Shame on me. They want their child educated, just not educated enough for him to realise their lies, I guess.

A friend of mine's parents made the decission not to tell his brothers that they're adopted. Because their mosque told them that it could be hurtful to the children to know this and that there is plenty of time once they are adults to discover this, once they are older and can understand as adults that they are still very loved.

The problem? Other than the three youngest (adopted) brothers, the rest of the family are very middle eastern. They three youngest: One is pretty obviously biracial (Black and Asian as far as we can tell) and the other two are utterly white. Once is a grey eyed blonde, one is a blue eyed red head. Oh, and the older of the three was adopted at age six. One thing is true though, they ARE very loved. And their parents are determined not to admit to the whole adoption thing. Even to those of us who have known the family since before the adoption.

Something tells me they're gonna figure it out before adulthood...

Cute fact: The six year old hated the name he was given as a baby. HATED it. So after he was adopted he got a name change and was given a choice what name he wanted. He wanted to share his new daddy's name, so now he does. His father is of course, terribly proud of this fact.

Friend of mine didn't find out she was adopted until the day of her mother's funeral and it wasn't her family that told her; a friend of her older sister's let something slip.  No matter whether you decide to tell them as a child or as they are older, that's the key:  TELL them.  Her younger brother is also adopted and figured it out when he was about 13.  I can't believe they didn't tell her at the same time.

The bolded made me laugh.  Ya think?   ;D
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Post by: jedikaiti on June 07, 2013, 12:11:49 PM
I'm always surprised at the number of woman who take oral contraceptives that are not aware taking antibiotics decreases their effectiveness. 

Every doctor and pharmacist I know goes over and over and over that point.  Yet I cannot even begin to tell you how many young woman I have known that are SHOCKED when they find out they are pregnant soon after a round of antibiotics.  I really thought it was common knowledge.

It should be common knowledge to girls using oral contraceptives, but, I just checked mine's info pamphlet, and there's nothing about antibiotics. It tells you to tell your doctor/pharmacist if you've taken other drugs, but then it only gives a list off drugs that sounds like names of pokemons, not 'class' of drugs like antibiotics. No way I would remember them only from this pamphlet. So yeah, it falls to the doctor and pharmacist, you can only hope the girl tells them what she's taking then. And actually listen.

I think the doc actually mentioned the antibiotics thing to me when I first started taking the pill, as did the pharmacist. Plus reminders whenever I've been on antibiotics regardless of what variety of contraceptive I might or might not be using at the time. More of a "you could theoretically be on the pill and me (meaning prescribing doc/pharmacist) not know it, so I'm going to make sure you know, just in case."
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Post by: Kimblee on June 07, 2013, 12:17:34 PM
On the blood type thing... I was once teaching a year 10 general science class about the immune system, and we did two lessons just on blood types. They learnt how they are inherited and who can donate blood to whom. All good right?

One of the students was adopted. No big deal, except that his adoptive parents had made the decision never to tell him (and he was 16 at this point). He realised that since he was AB but both of his parents were O, then even Bombay syndrome (a rare genetic thing that basically masks blood types) couldn't explain it. I found all this out after unexpectedly receiving an angry phone call from his mother: how dare I teach him the kind of general knowledge which he could easily have found independently in any public library science textbook or Wikipedia which would not only make their lie to him apparent, but also show how poorly they had thought it out by revealing telling things like their bloodtypes to him!?

But you know. Shame on me. They want their child educated, just not educated enough for him to realise their lies, I guess.

A friend of mine's parents made the decission not to tell his brothers that they're adopted. Because their mosque told them that it could be hurtful to the children to know this and that there is plenty of time once they are adults to discover this, once they are older and can understand as adults that they are still very loved.

The problem? Other than the three youngest (adopted) brothers, the rest of the family are very middle eastern. They three youngest: One is pretty obviously biracial (Black and Asian as far as we can tell) and the other two are utterly white. Once is a grey eyed blonde, one is a blue eyed red head. Oh, and the older of the three was adopted at age six. One thing is true though, they ARE very loved. And their parents are determined not to admit to the whole adoption thing. Even to those of us who have known the family since before the adoption.

Something tells me they're gonna figure it out before adulthood...

Cute fact: The six year old hated the name he was given as a baby. HATED it. So after he was adopted he got a name change and was given a choice what name he wanted. He wanted to share his new daddy's name, so now he does. His father is of course, terribly proud of this fact.

Friend of mine didn't find out she was adopted until the day of her mother's funeral and it wasn't her family that told her; a friend of her older sister's let something slip.  No matter whether you decide to tell them as a child or as they are older, that's the key:  TELL them.  Her younger brother is also adopted and figured it out when he was about 13.  I can't believe they didn't tell her at the same time.

The bolded made me laugh.  Ya think?   ;D

The oldest HAS to know... I mean, he was adopted at six years old AND chose his own name. The littler boys I'm not so sure about. My friend says his parents aren't big on lying, so I'm pretty sure if they kids came right out and asked "Am I Adopted?" they'd tell the truth, but for now they aren't admitting to anything. And are claiming the blonde looks just like his mother.

Strangely, if you ignore the coloring, he kinda does.
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Post by: blue2000 on June 07, 2013, 12:37:47 PM

The oldest HAS to know... I mean, he was adopted at six years old AND chose his own name. The littler boys I'm not so sure about. My friend says his parents aren't big on lying, so I'm pretty sure if they kids came right out and asked "Am I Adopted?" they'd tell the truth, but for now they aren't admitting to anything. And are claiming the blonde looks just like his mother.

Strangely, if you ignore the coloring, he kinda does.

My adopted niece is Chinese. We have no Asian ancestry at all, but when my brother first got pics just before the adoption, a common reaction was "She has your hair!" Bro still jokingly calls her his 'mini-me', although now she's almost a teen and rolls her eyes at it. ;D
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Post by: Lynn2000 on June 07, 2013, 12:46:49 PM
I'm always surprised at the number of woman who take oral contraceptives that are not aware taking antibiotics decreases their effectiveness. 

Every doctor and pharmacist I know goes over and over and over that point.  Yet I cannot even begin to tell you how many young woman I have known that are SHOCKED when they find out they are pregnant soon after a round of antibiotics.  I really thought it was common knowledge.

Add me to the list of people who had no clue about this, but probably should. Actually, just a few weeks ago I was taking some antibiotics, for the first time in years, and I looked the specific drug up on the Internet and read the insert that came with the antibiotics (to see if there might be any odd side effects), and nowhere did it talk about a conflict with the Pill. Fortunately I'm not in a position where I could have gotten pregnant, but it bothers me that such important information isn't conveyed better.

On the two-spaces-after-a-period thing: I learned that for the first time in high school. We were typing on computers, but it was WordPerfect (pre-Microsoft Office) and it's possible the font was one where each letter took up the same amount of space. I had a couple teachers (quite young, actually) who were fanatic about it and would take off points if you forgot the extra space. I had never been taught that before and kind of hated it. Once I got to college no one cared so I went back to one space (and the fonts were proportional by then).
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Post by: Sharnita on June 07, 2013, 12:51:50 PM

The oldest HAS to know... I mean, he was adopted at six years old AND chose his own name. The littler boys I'm not so sure about. My friend says his parents aren't big on lying, so I'm pretty sure if they kids came right out and asked "Am I Adopted?" they'd tell the truth, but for now they aren't admitting to anything. And are claiming the blonde looks just like his mother.

Strangely, if you ignore the coloring, he kinda does.

My adopted niece is Chinese. We have no Asian ancestry at all, but when my brother first got pics just before the adoption, a common reaction was "She has your hair!" Bro still jokingly calls her his 'mini-me', although now she's almost a teen and rolls her eyes at it. ;D

Sometimes you genuinely don't think about it.  I have friends who have daughters who are adopted and are one race and sons who are biologic.  When daughter got married and had a son I coomented hat he looked just like her brother, never thinking that there was np biologic link at all. And strangely, nephew did look like his uncle in baby pictures.
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Post by: KenveeB on June 07, 2013, 01:01:10 PM

The oldest HAS to know... I mean, he was adopted at six years old AND chose his own name. The littler boys I'm not so sure about. My friend says his parents aren't big on lying, so I'm pretty sure if they kids came right out and asked "Am I Adopted?" they'd tell the truth, but for now they aren't admitting to anything. And are claiming the blonde looks just like his mother.

Strangely, if you ignore the coloring, he kinda does.

My adopted niece is Chinese. We have no Asian ancestry at all, but when my brother first got pics just before the adoption, a common reaction was "She has your hair!" Bro still jokingly calls her his 'mini-me', although now she's almost a teen and rolls her eyes at it. ;D

Sometimes you genuinely don't think about it.  I have friends who have daughters who are adopted and are one race and sons who are biologic.  When daughter got married and had a son I coomented hat he looked just like her brother, never thinking that there was np biologic link at all. And strangely, nephew did look like his uncle in baby pictures.

People always comment on my looking like my sisters, but they're adopted. My mom once went on and on about how much my friend looks like her mother, but Friend is adopted.
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Post by: cwm on June 07, 2013, 01:17:06 PM
I've tried explaining to a friend, but to no avail.

Just because DD2 has a gluten allergy, she does not automatically have Celiac. (Doctor has said she doesn't, actually.) Also, genetically inherited diseases don't work like you think they do. Just because DD2 has a gluten allergy and it's inherited, it does not mean that DD1 has Celiac, or that you and your husband both have it now as well, because she had to have gotten it from somewhere, right? Um, no. Sorry. Genetics isn't on your side in this case.
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Post by: Elisabunny on June 07, 2013, 03:02:44 PM
On the blood type thing... I was once teaching a year 10 general science class about the immune system, and we did two lessons just on blood types. They learnt how they are inherited and who can donate blood to whom. All good right?

One of the students was adopted. No big deal, except that his adoptive parents had made the decision never to tell him (and he was 16 at this point). He realised that since he was AB but both of his parents were O, then even Bombay syndrome (a rare genetic thing that basically masks blood types) couldn't explain it. I found all this out after unexpectedly receiving an angry phone call from his mother: how dare I teach him the kind of general knowledge which he could easily have found independently in any public library science textbook or Wikipedia which would not only make their lie to him apparent, but also show how poorly they had thought it out by revealing telling things like their bloodtypes to him!?

But you know. Shame on me. They want their child educated, just not educated enough for him to realise their lies, I guess.

A friend of mine's parents made the decission not to tell his brothers that they're adopted. Because their mosque told them that it could be hurtful to the children to know this and that there is plenty of time once they are adults to discover this, once they are older and can understand as adults that they are still very loved.

The problem? Other than the three youngest (adopted) brothers, the rest of the family are very middle eastern. They three youngest: One is pretty obviously biracial (Black and Asian as far as we can tell) and the other two are utterly white. Once is a grey eyed blonde, one is a blue eyed red head. Oh, and the older of the three was adopted at age six. One thing is true though, they ARE very loved. And their parents are determined not to admit to the whole adoption thing. Even to those of us who have known the family since before the adoption.

Something tells me they're gonna figure it out before adulthood...

Cute fact: The six year old hated the name he was given as a baby. HATED it. So after he was adopted he got a name change and was given a choice what name he wanted. He wanted to share his new daddy's name, so now he does. His father is of course, terribly proud of this fact.

Friend of mine didn't find out she was adopted until the day of her mother's funeral and it wasn't her family that told her; a friend of her older sister's let something slip.  No matter whether you decide to tell them as a child or as they are older, that's the key:  TELL them.  Her younger brother is also adopted and figured it out when he was about 13.  I can't believe they didn't tell her at the same time.

The bolded made me laugh.  Ya think?   ;D

A couple of kids I grew up with didn't find out they were adopted until their parents divorced.  It came out during the custody discussions.
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Post by: Shalamar on June 07, 2013, 03:06:58 PM
My friend's sister didn't realize that she was born before her parents married until their 25th wedding anniversary.  She sat at the table with a look of dawning dismay on her face, saying "Wait a minute ... I'm 26!"  Her parents gaped at her and said "You seriously never figured that out until now?"
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Post by: Elfmama on June 07, 2013, 04:06:04 PM
I had to tell DH only a few years ago that meat is the muscle tissue of an animal.  He tried to argue that meat was something else, called "flesh."  When asked "OK, then where in this anatomy chart is the 'flesh' and where does the muscle tissue go after the animal is butchered?" he got the biggest Cat Butt Face and started yelling about how I always have to be right.  ;D
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Post by: Jocelyn on June 07, 2013, 05:21:40 PM
I'm always surprised at the number of woman who take oral contraceptives that are not aware taking antibiotics decreases their effectiveness. 

Every doctor and pharmacist I know goes over and over and over that point.  Yet I cannot even begin to tell you how many young woman I have known that are SHOCKED when they find out they are pregnant soon after a round of antibiotics.  I really thought it was common knowledge.
Nope - not common knowledge. At least this is the first I've heard of it. However, if a doctor was to tell me that you can bet I'd pay attention!
On the lighter side:
I had a friend who was in this situation, so she sent her husband to buy condoms, just in case. He went into the grocery store (with a pharmacy) but came out, saying he was just too embarrassed and what would people think if they saw him buying them? That you're a married man? was her reply. She marched into the store, went back to the pharmacy, grabbed a bag of condoms (this store put them in prescription drug bags, for modesty's sake) and carried them up to the cashier. Where they didn't ring up. The bar code didn't work. So the cashier got on the speaker and said, 'PRICE CHECK ON CONDOMS!'
Her husband said he knew he was in trouble when he saw her exit the store, just from the way she was walking. She jerked open the door, threw the bag at him and said, 'There they are- not that you'll be needing them!' ;D
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Post by: Piratelvr1121 on June 07, 2013, 06:24:34 PM
My mother admitted she was jealous that DH had no problem picking up sanitary napkins for me at the store when I needed them.   Apparently, with the exception of once when my father told me to not dance because it was that time, my dad desperately wanted pretend that just doesn't happen.

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Post by: Venus193 on June 07, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
Once upon a time there was a discussion on another board where the subject of cond0ms came up and someone posted that although he lived in Brooklyn when he was 17 he would drive to New Jersey to shop for them once a month.

Which conclusively proves that there were no "good old days."
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Post by: kherbert05 on June 07, 2013, 07:09:36 PM
About not telling kids the truth about adoption - I just don't get it. My cousin was adopted, stories about when we brought Margret home were just like the stories of when Kimberly was born retold with regularity. I honestly don't remember "learning" she was adopted. When they were little Margret's dausghter and my oldest niece were two peas in a pod.


I had them one day and this lady asked if they were twins and commented how adorable they were. Earlier that day they had asked me how they were cousins and I had told them they were 3rd cousin's by Sis's marriage to BIL. So they told the lady We are 3rd cousins because Her (ON) dad married My (Cousin's) Mom's cousin - and my Mom is adopted. We look alike because we love each other -with a big hug the way only 6 - 7 yo kids can. The lady burst out laughing.


I've had 2 kids have their adoptions finalized while in my class one 11 yo the other 8 yo. They both also changed their first names because they hated them.


The 11 yo came literally dancing into class. He hugged me and said now my name is LEGALLY (new name) we don't have to use old name on my report card. (I had no choice it was computer generated).


The 8 yo announced to the class - I got my adoption finalized yesterday Now My name is (New first name) please call me that. It took a week - but the kids and I got the new name in our heads.


I had another student that had been adopted before coming to my class. I can't remember how it came up but he made it very clear he felt special because his parents chose him and his brothers. 
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Post by: Piratelvr1121 on June 07, 2013, 07:32:51 PM
I have 6 adopted cousins.  One set is from Mexico, one from Vietnam and another from Colombia.  None of them look like their parents and have known they were adopted their whole lives.  I don't know about my cousins adopted from Colombia, but my Mexican and Vietnamese cousins have gone on vacations with their parents to the countries they're from, even visited the orphanages where they lived prior to being adopted.
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on June 07, 2013, 08:58:23 PM
Virg has a point. (It's why the metric system hasn't really caught on for most people's daily lives--there's just no benefit to switching.)

Tell that to anyone who uses the metric system.
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Post by: Jocelyn on June 07, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
Virg has a point. (It's why the metric system hasn't really caught on for most people's daily lives--there's just no benefit to switching.)

Tell that to anyone who uses the metric system.
I've used the metric system in labs enough to be comfortable with it and its merits. But in the rest of my life, there's no benefit in having to buy new measuring cups and sewing tools, and having to do the conversion on recipes and crafts patterns. Even if the US went metric, I'd still keep on using the English system for a lot of things. :)
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Post by: Ereine on June 08, 2013, 12:13:35 AM
Most of my sewing and measuring things include both metric and English measurements. And we don't really even use the English system, I assumed that was common. It is handy when using American recipes.
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Post by: Nikko-chan on June 08, 2013, 02:44:12 AM

I've had 2 kids have their adoptions finalized while in my class one 11 yo the other 8 yo. They both also changed their first names because they hated them.


The 11 yo came literally dancing into class. He hugged me and said now my name is LEGALLY (new name) we don't have to use old name on my report card. (I had no choice it was computer generated).


The 8 yo announced to the class - I got my adoption finalized yesterday Now My name is (New first name) please call me that. It took a week - but the kids and I got the new name in our heads.


I had another student that had been adopted before coming to my class. I can't remember how it came up but he made it very clear he felt special because his parents chose him and his brothers.


I've got something in my eye. That is so sweet.
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on June 08, 2013, 03:10:31 AM
Most of my sewing and measuring things include both metric and English measurements. And we don't really even use the English system, I assumed that was common. It is handy when using American recipes.

I find American recipes quite frustrating, because they ask for "cups" of everything.  I have no idea how much that is and websites seem to disagree on how much a cup of various items is as well.
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Post by: Ereine on June 08, 2013, 03:24:02 AM
I just bought a measuring cup with deciliters pn one side and cups on the other, it makes it simple.
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on June 08, 2013, 03:36:45 AM
I just bought a measuring cup with deciliters pn one side and cups on the other, it makes it simple.

I haven't seen (in the shops) any measuring devices with "cups" marked, that is the problem.  Where did you get it?
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Post by: redcat on June 08, 2013, 03:40:11 AM
I've seen sets in specialist kitchen stores, or the kitchen department of John Lewis.
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Post by: Ereine on June 08, 2013, 03:51:51 AM
Maybe the stores that sell that kind of thing here are different but here they seem to be everywhere. I actually trouble buying measuring spoons because all of the really cute ones (like these ones (http://www.josephjoseph.com/product/view/507) which are actually British) only had cups and even if they also tell the metric equivalent I don't often need to measure 85 ml so they're pretty useless.
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on June 08, 2013, 03:59:16 AM
Thank you!
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on June 08, 2013, 04:08:23 AM
If all you're using is cups and teaspoons it can be about ratio and works out just as well.
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Post by: Snooks on June 08, 2013, 04:40:53 AM
I come unstuck when it comes to sticks of butter and cups of butter but for dry ingredients I bought myself some US cups from Amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/TALA-KITCHEN-MEASURING-SET-7PCE/dp/B000TAU3JE/ref=sr_1_2?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1370684398&sr=1-2&keywords=measuring+cups
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Post by: cabbageweevil on June 08, 2013, 05:15:52 AM
Most of my sewing and measuring things include both metric and English measurements. And we don't really even use the English system, I assumed that was common. It is handy when using American recipes.

I find American recipes quite frustrating, because they ask for "cups" of everything.  I have no idea how much that is and websites seem to disagree on how much a cup of various items is as well.

Likewise, I find the "cups" thing in recipes, a bit getting-head-round-troublesome. (Thanks for posters' various advice / suggestions.)  I have a cookery book which states "1 American cup = 8 fluid ounces = 250ml", and tend to go by that.

There's a book of Indian recipes which I have: the author includes many potentially lovely recipes, but they tend to be highly complicated, and she's apt to be a bit sloppy and inconsistent in the setting-out of them. And while, in the main, she gives quantities in metric figures and pounds-and-ounces, in parallel; she occasionally and randomly puts things in terms of "cups", instead. Way to drive the user round the bend...
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Post by: MariaE on June 08, 2013, 06:54:40 AM
My biggest problem is when recipes (regardless of nationality) call for one can of this, one cube of that or one package of something else... without saying how much is in a can, a cube or a package!!!
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Post by: Pen^2 on June 08, 2013, 08:11:42 AM
My biggest problem is when recipes (regardless of nationality) call for one can of this, one cube of that or one package of something else... without saying how much is in a can, a cube or a package!!!

Ooh yes, this is very frustrating!

1 cup of sugar; 2 tbs water; 1 bottle pasta sauce...

What size is the bottle supposed to be!?  >:(


Back on topic, I recall a woman in the supermarket asking a worker where the pecans were. She was subsequently directed to the tinned peas  ::)
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Post by: Luci on June 08, 2013, 08:16:42 AM
My biggest problem is when recipes (regardless of nationality) call for one can of this, one cube of that or one package of something else... without saying how much is in a can, a cube or a package!!!

This! There are so many sizes of cans, and the standards have changed a little over the years that when I use one of those recipes, I note on the card/ book the ounces. In most savory recipes, the difference of an ounce or two won't make much of a difference. I change a lot of recipes anyway with 'more garlic' and '1/2 amount of salt' notations after the first time.

I often find a metric recipe and if I decide to use it, I note the imperial measurements after using a converter program online.  I also have a diet scale the can go with either ounces or grams. All of my measurers of a cup or over have both units written on them, as do most of my length rulers, so it's pretty easy. (I've never lived anywhere but the midwest US.)
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Post by: Jocelyn on June 08, 2013, 10:54:29 AM
Most of my sewing and measuring things include both metric and English measurements. And we don't really even use the English system, I assumed that was common. It is handy when using American recipes.

I find American recipes quite frustrating, because they ask for "cups" of everything.  I have no idea how much that is and websites seem to disagree on how much a cup of various items is as well.
That's because it varies, on how much a cup of something is. :)
A liquid cup is 240 ml. Dry ingredients vary more because they pack into a cup differently. For example, with brown sugar you pack it into the cup as tightly as possible, whereas flour may be measured 'loosely'.
I wouldn't even try making metric recipes without using metric measuring cups. That's why I have no real motivation to switch to metric, because I'd have to buy new measuring cups and spoons, and possibly even new pans, to be able to replicate the conditions under which the recipe was tested. And then there's the oven: it has its degree measurements in farenheit!
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Post by: Jocelyn on June 08, 2013, 10:57:02 AM
My biggest problem is when recipes (regardless of nationality) call for one can of this, one cube of that or one package of something else... without saying how much is in a can, a cube or a package!!!
]


Worse yet, a lot of manufacturers are making their packages smaller, to avoid raising the price. So recipes that were derived in the 1950s and 1960s were made for a package that contained a pound...and now the package contains 12 oz.
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Post by: marcel on June 08, 2013, 11:11:16 AM
Most of my sewing and measuring things include both metric and English measurements. And we don't really even use the English system, I assumed that was common. It is handy when using American recipes.

I find American recipes quite frustrating, because they ask for "cups" of everything.  I have no idea how much that is and websites seem to disagree on how much a cup of various items is as well.
That's because it varies, on how much a cup of something is. :)
A liquid cup is 240 ml. Dry ingredients vary more because they pack into a cup differently. For example, with brown sugar you pack it into the cup as tightly as possible, whereas flour may be measured 'loosely'.
I wouldn't even try making metric recipes without using metric measuring cups. That's why I have no real motivation to switch to metric, because I'd have to buy new measuring cups and spoons, and possibly even new pans, to be able to replicate the conditions under which the recipe was tested. And then there's the oven: it has its degree measurements in farenheit!
You may be able to find metric measuring cups somewhere but it would not make sense to buy them, you see, people do not use volume to measure solids over here, we use weight instead because that is much less ambigious.

In weight 100 gram of flour is 100 gram of flour regardless of how tight you pack it, I can understand that people do not want to go to the trouble of going to metric metric (Though it would be a kindness to the young and future generations if you did) What I will never understand is why Americans keep measuring solids in volume instead of weight.
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Post by: The Opinionator on June 08, 2013, 12:17:23 PM
I just bought a measuring cup with deciliters pn one side and cups on the other, it makes it simple.

I haven't seen (in the shops) any measuring devices with "cups" marked, that is the problem.  Where did you get it?
I've also found a measuring cups and spoons set in Poundland.  :D
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Post by: Ereine on June 08, 2013, 12:41:52 PM
Most of my sewing and measuring things include both metric and English measurements. And we don't really even use the English system, I assumed that was common. It is handy when using American recipes.

I find American recipes quite frustrating, because they ask for "cups" of everything.  I have no idea how much that is and websites seem to disagree on how much a cup of various items is as well.
That's because it varies, on how much a cup of something is. :)
A liquid cup is 240 ml. Dry ingredients vary more because they pack into a cup differently. For example, with brown sugar you pack it into the cup as tightly as possible, whereas flour may be measured 'loosely'.
I wouldn't even try making metric recipes without using metric measuring cups. That's why I have no real motivation to switch to metric, because I'd have to buy new measuring cups and spoons, and possibly even new pans, to be able to replicate the conditions under which the recipe was tested. And then there's the oven: it has its degree measurements in farenheit!
You may be able to find metric measuring cups somewhere but it would not make sense to buy them, you see, people do not use volume to measure solids over here, we use weight instead because that is much less ambigious.

In weight 100 gram of flour is 100 gram of flour regardless of how tight you pack it, I can understand that people do not want to go to the trouble of going to metric metric (Though it would be a kindness to the young and future generations if you did) What I will never understand is why Americans keep measuring solids in volume instead of weight.

I don't think that's restricted to Americans. Measuring the weight is better (though my kitchen scales are vintage and not at all exact) but almost all Finnish recipes use volume (usually deciliters and liters). From what I can find Swedes seem to do it as well (not surprising as we usually get that sort of traditions from them) and a random Norwegian recipe site I found uses both.
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Post by: jpcher on June 08, 2013, 12:45:24 PM
Back on topic, I recall a woman in the supermarket asking a worker where the pecans were. She was subsequently directed to the tinned peas  ::)

LOL! I had to think about that for a minute.

Which brings up another question of pronunciation . . .

is pecan pronounced

p-CAN

or

p-CON

Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: VorFemme on June 08, 2013, 12:58:36 PM
Back on topic, I recall a woman in the supermarket asking a worker where the pecans were. She was subsequently directed to the tinned peas  ::)

LOL! I had to think about that for a minute.

Which brings up another question of pronunciation . . .

is pecan pronounced

p-CAN

or

p-CON



Depending on where you are - both ways.

I've also heard it with a soft e - peh-con or peh-can, rather than the hard e in pea-con or pea-can.

I've never heard the can part sounded out as cane...no telling what someone from an area without pecan trees would try calling them, though.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on June 08, 2013, 04:07:02 PM
What I will never understand is why Americans keep measuring solids in volume instead of weight.
Because a measuring cup remains the same size, year after year, whereas scales will get miscalibrated over time?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Snooks on June 08, 2013, 04:08:41 PM
What I will never understand is why Americans keep measuring solids in volume instead of weight.
Because a measuring cup remains the same size, year after year, whereas scales will get miscalibrated over time?

But as someone else pointed out it depends how tightly you pack the cup.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Outdoor Girl on June 08, 2013, 04:24:43 PM
But if you are consistent with your measurements every time you make the recipe, it works out.  You can adjust your liquid volume a bit if you have to.  Bread purists swear that you have to weigh your flour to get good quality bread every time.  I use cup measures and have never had a batch flop (unless the yeast was too old and I didn't proof it properly).  What I do, though, is shove the cup down into the middle of the flour, lift it out and level it off by running a knife or my finger across the top.  So every cup of flour I use is going to be pretty close to the same weight.  I don't shake the cup or pound it on the counter, which would settle the flour and let the cup measure more than I intended.

And if you use the same cup to measure your liquids that you use to measure your solids, then everything is reasonably proportional.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Julian on June 08, 2013, 05:41:58 PM
For years I've used one of these - a measuring cone which converts volume to weight depending on the substance being measured.  They're easy to use, and many have both metric and imperial measurements on them.


http://www.getprice.com.au/Cooks-Dry-Measuring-Cone-Gpnc_251--41989765.htm (http://www.getprice.com.au/Cooks-Dry-Measuring-Cone-Gpnc_251--41989765.htm)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Jocelyn on June 08, 2013, 06:01:31 PM
   Bread purists swear that you have to weigh your flour to get good quality bread every time.   
My mother once told me that my grandmother never used a recipe for making bread- she just made it. Until one day when she broke her bowl, and for awhile after that, the bread wasn't as good, until she learned how much of each ingredient to put into the new bowl!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Katana_Geldar on June 08, 2013, 07:10:48 PM
Measuring accurately is no substitute in knowing how something is meant to be. Particularly with dough if I'm making scones or pastry. It needs to feel right.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Elfmama on June 08, 2013, 08:13:10 PM
My biggest problem is when recipes (regardless of nationality) call for one can of this, one cube of that or one package of something else... without saying how much is in a can, a cube or a package!!!
It can be equally frustrating when it's done here, too.  I tried to help a friend redact an old family recipe from her DH's late grandmother.  "Take a 50-cent box of vanilla wafers, mush them up, put them in the blue bowl and add milk until it looks right."
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: RegionMom on June 08, 2013, 08:16:25 PM
My granny used to make drop biscuits in a brown wooden bowl that she kept in a cupboard, always with a lining of flour. 

she just dabbled a bit of this, a gob of that, and mixed it by hand.  Sooooo good!!

I so wanted that bowl after she died, but alas, it was already gone.  I hope whoever got it actually uses it.

I do have many of her recipes, and I sat down with her years ago and went over the sizes of cans and boxes so I would know. 

 :)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: menley on June 09, 2013, 05:19:43 AM
My biggest problem is when recipes (regardless of nationality) call for one can of this, one cube of that or one package of something else... without saying how much is in a can, a cube or a package!!!
It can be equally frustrating when it's done here, too.  I tried to help a friend redact an old family recipe from her DH's late grandmother.  "Take a 50-cent box of vanilla wafers, mush them up, put them in the blue bowl and add milk until it looks right."

My mom had the same issue with my dad's mother's recipes! She had lots of traditional family recipes from their home country, but they were all things like "Use a dime's worth of salt" and "mix a few handfuls of flour into an egg or two until the consistency is right." If she had been able to try baking them with her when my grandmother still had her memory, it would have been one thing - she could've seen what was meant - but my grandmother had Alzheimer's and by the time we came across the recipes, she couldn't be trusted in the kitchen for safety reasons. It's really quite sad because she was apparently legendary in her hometown for her pastries.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: BB-VA on June 09, 2013, 06:45:25 AM
Alton Brown ("Good Eats") preferred measuring dry ingredients by weight instead of volume.

I have an old edition of the "Mennonite Community Cookbook".  The cookbook was compiled from family recipes and each recipe was "calibrated" to use modern measurements.  The author included comments about some of the measurements she found - one of which was 10 "blubs" of molasses.  She also comments on an older lady who, in telling her how to make cookies, told her to add flour until it looks right, but not to add too much because then the cookies would be too dry.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on June 09, 2013, 06:56:23 AM
Gigi, my maternal grandmother, was an amazing cook. I still miss her deviled crab. I've seen deviled crab cakes available in the grocery store and everytime I look at them I think "they won't be as good as Gigi's." 

When I was a child she once made up a cookbook of not only her recipes but those of her family members.  She had them contribute recipes and had it all printed and typed up and I got my own copy that she signed for me. :)   I still have it and have used it to make a crab dip that's delicious, and her deviled crabs were quite spicy but that's what made them so good.  I remember one year when DH and I were living in California because he was stationed there, and Gigi mentioned to me that she'd made her deviled crabs.  (she lived on the East coast and there was no way to get back home anytime soon).  I told her she'd made my mouth water so she mailed quite a bit out to me. :)

I tried making them once but since we couldn't afford real crab meat at the time I used the fake stuff and it wasn't bad but it just wasn't the same.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: TootsNYC on June 09, 2013, 09:26:30 AM
Most of my sewing and measuring things include both metric and English measurements. And we don't really even use the English system, I assumed that was common. It is handy when using American recipes.

A great many of ours do, too--and it's useful when using European recipes.
But the smaller measuring spoons and the dry measuring cups are one-system only.

And all our recipes are written that way (as you point out).


I remember once finding an op-ed piece of some sort written by someone who advocated the "use the scale" method of measurement. He said that *it was a conspiracy* to keep the recipes in magazines, cookbooks, etc., in the imperial system.

Since at the time I worked for a high-profile publisher of food magazines and cookbooks, I got a huge kick out of it.


My biggest problem is when recipes (regardless of nationality) call for one can of this, one cube of that or one package of something else... without saying how much is in a can, a cube or a package!!!
It can be equally frustrating when it's done here, too.  I tried to help a friend redact an old family recipe from her DH's late grandmother.  "Take a 50-cent box of vanilla wafers, mush them up, put them in the blue bowl and add milk until it looks right."

At that same publishing company, they wanted to drop the "1/2 cup" and just start saying, "1 stick of butter." I guess for now everybody would know, but it just really bothered me, as a copyeditor.

"Stick" is not a universally agreed-upon unit of measurement.


My mother tells the story of her best friend's mom, who made the most wonderful biscuits. Until the coffee cup she was using to measure broke, and the new one she got was a different size and held a different volume of flour.

And I once read a mystery where the heroine ran a bakery, and there were recipes sprinkled throughout the book. She measured her flour by PACKING IT into the cup very firmly. I thought that would probably be a more accurate way to measure flour by volume than sifting it is.

I had a never-fail choc.chip cookie recipe that suddenly started going wonky. I couldn't figure it out. I theorized that I was not getting the right amount of flour, so I started measuring, then weighing what I was measuring. I discovered that actually it was pretty consistent. (Turned out to be that I'd forgotten the 30 seconds that belonged on the cooking time--I had a timer that would keep the minutes for the next batch, but lose the seconds.)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: camlan on June 09, 2013, 09:36:09 AM

My mother tells the story of her best friend's mom, who made the most wonderful biscuits. Until the coffee cup she was using to measure broke, and the new one she got was a different size and held a different volume of flour.



My dear sister-in-law was kind enough to give me the recipe for her apple pie. But her measurements were in coffee cups and tea cups! So I had to ask my brother to convert the cups to something I could use. Because they live overseas, all their measuring cups are in MLs. So once I got the conversion from my brother, I then had to convert MLs to cups.

The pie tastes nice, but not exactly the same as SILs. It's either my cooking skills, the numerous measurement conversions or that the ingredients I can get over here aren't exactly the same as what she can get over there.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Carotte on June 09, 2013, 10:57:58 AM

At that same publishing company, they wanted to drop the "1/2 cup" and just start saying, "1 stick of butter." I guess for now everybody would know, but it just really bothered me, as a copyeditor.

"Stick" is not a universally agreed-upon unit of measurement.

That would not be cool for those, like me, that have to convert everything. Even a cup of butter is a weird concept, even room temp butter would be a pain to cut in little bits to fill up a cup, squashing it so that it's packed, then emptying the cup and having to clean all the greasy residue.

I printed a handy little guide with metric/imperial measures, C° and F°, and what one cup of flour/sugar/butter/rice.. is in grams, and Oz to Grams...
It's really usefull, I get most of my recipes from tastespotting (and thus mostly english blogs) and since I moved out without taking the measuring cups, I just write it down with the conversion.

My guide is the one from here: http://www.everest.co.uk/products/kitchens/kitchen-cheat-sheet/ (http://www.everest.co.uk/products/kitchens/kitchen-cheat-sheet/)
free download possible.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: nutraxfornerves on June 09, 2013, 11:01:10 AM
Getting back to the topic, but still about cooking.

Cookbook author and cooking teacher Marion Cunningham wrote a column about novices in the kitchen, and underestimating how words can be taken literally.
Quote
When we were exploring the produce section of the supermarket, for example, I asked the students if anyone had bought and used green onions. One student replied that she had--but she had cut the white part off and discarded it because onions are called "green" onions.

Since green onions go by other names in other places,here's a picture:
(http://www.safeway.com/CMS/assets/media/HealthyLiving/NutritionGuide/FreshVegetables_NutritionGuide_GreenOnions_020112.jpg?01AD=3Co_YcDuIaTYaBXAN5De8LalskLfvhtwiorW9KZP1iDpx5C4zDX4MMw&01RI=ABC7879A649D1E8&01NA=na)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Hillia on June 09, 2013, 11:52:52 AM

At that same publishing company, they wanted to drop the "1/2 cup" and just start saying, "1 stick of butter." I guess for now everybody would know, but it just really bothered me, as a copyeditor.

"Stick" is not a universally agreed-upon unit of measurement.

That would not be cool for those, like me, that have to convert everything. Even a cup of butter is a weird concept, even room temp butter would be a pain to cut in little bits to fill up a cup, squashing it so that it's packed, then emptying the cup and having to clean all the greasy residue.

I printed a handy little guide with metric/imperial measures, C° and F°, and what one cup of flour/sugar/butter/rice.. is in grams, and Oz to Grams...
It's really usefull, I get most of my recipes from tastespotting (and thus mostly english blogs) and since I moved out without taking the measuring cups, I just write it down with the conversion.

My guide is the one from here: http://www.everest.co.uk/products/kitchens/kitchen-cheat-sheet/ (http://www.everest.co.uk/products/kitchens/kitchen-cheat-sheet/)
free download possible.

In the US butter typically comes wrapped in individual sticks containing 1/2 cup each  The wrappers are marked off in tablespoons so you can easily cut off a smaller amount.

However, as mentioned, this is not universal; I have bought butter that came wrapped in 4 tablespoon sticks.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on June 09, 2013, 12:35:36 PM
I've come across some Irish recipes that had me looking online for equivalents, such as soda bread or brown bread recipes. They turned out deliciously and I ended up making notes on my recipe.

Also I can understand the stick of butter issue.  Now and then, since it's more pricey than usual butter, I treat myself to some Kerrygold Irish butter.  I think it's about $5, but it's thicker than your usual stick so I have to look at the little measurements on the side to use the right amount. 
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: ladyknight1 on June 09, 2013, 12:39:07 PM
When we need a large quantity of butter, I buy it in a 4 lb pack of pound blocks. I use a bench knife to divide the one I am working on, and use a scale when baking to ensure perfect results.

I have had to tell my fellow college students that the group discussion portion of our class discussion posts (online) is part of the grade. We are all required to discuss the topic in order to receive full credit. The other students are extremely resistant to the idea, so the discussion board looks like a monologue! I want to keep my A, which is hard to attain in a 3000 level, 6-week, summer course!
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Browyn on June 09, 2013, 12:49:54 PM
I have two of these (a large and a small) and I think mine are from Alton Brown's collection.  They have metric as well as old fashioned measurements on them.

http://tinyurl.com/push-measure-cup

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21Kchk0yHJL.jpg)

They are so good for things like shortning, peanut butter, anything sticky and I bet they would be good for butter too.

Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: WillyNilly on June 09, 2013, 01:36:52 PM
I just re-encountered this bit that I think every adult should know... but a surprising number either don't seem to know or don't care about: double doors for temperature control.  Aka: when holding a door is the rude thing to do.

Often in the winter or yesterday at a spa with numerous saunas, including an "ice sauna", there are two doors, and inner and outer. These are to keep the cold out (or in). So you go through one, let it close (or at least mostly close) and then you open the next. But invariably there are people who open the first door - as wide as possible no less - and hold it wide open for the next person while opening the next door - as widely as possible - thus holding both doors wide open. Very often this is the same person, or group of persons, who like to stop and chat while holding the doors open, or pause to hold the doors (both) for a straggler. Its incredibly rude in its selfishness, and quite honestly just stupid behavior - do people honestly not realize there is a reason for the two sets of doors? I mean even if you've never seen it before, it seems like common sense to figure out.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: camlan on June 09, 2013, 05:56:34 PM
Passed on this little lesson today.

Gasoline is flammable. It is also not a good idea to attempt to increase the amount of fire in your charcoal grill by holding a can of gas over the flames and pouring it on.

Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: cwm on June 09, 2013, 06:24:22 PM
I just re-encountered this bit that I think every adult should know... but a surprising number either don't seem to know or don't care about: double doors for temperature control.  Aka: when holding a door is the rude thing to do.

Often in the winter or yesterday at a spa with numerous saunas, including an "ice sauna", there are two doors, and inner and outer. These are to keep the cold out (or in). So you go through one, let it close (or at least mostly close) and then you open the next. But invariably there are people who open the first door - as wide as possible no less - and hold it wide open for the next person while opening the next door - as widely as possible - thus holding both doors wide open. Very often this is the same person, or group of persons, who like to stop and chat while holding the doors open, or pause to hold the doors (both) for a straggler. Its incredibly rude in its selfishness, and quite honestly just stupid behavior - do people honestly not realize there is a reason for the two sets of doors? I mean even if you've never seen it before, it seems like common sense to figure out.

I see this all the time at the zoo too, in the aviaries. I had to explain to some random woman WHY they did this with free-roaming animals in the enclosures. It only came up because her young child had read the notice on the door to let one set close before opening the other. She really thought it was to limit the number of people going in at once. I had to calmly explain (directly to her child, loud enough for her to hear) that it was because they didn't want any of the animals running away.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Softly Spoken on June 09, 2013, 06:25:43 PM
Passed on this little lesson today.

Gasoline is flammable. It is also not a good idea to attempt to increase the amount of fire in your charcoal grill by holding a can of gas over the flames and pouring it on.

 :o

I...I think we've officially morphed into a new Brain Hurt thread.  :P  ;)
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Sharnita on June 09, 2013, 07:33:48 PM
Passed on this little lesson today.

Gasoline is flammable. It is also not a good idea to attempt to increase the amount of fire in your charcoal grill by holding a can of gas over the flames and pouring it on.

Was anybody seriously hurt or were you able to pass this information on before anything bad happened?
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on June 09, 2013, 07:36:30 PM
I hope before and that the one holding the gas can wasn't one of those "Hold my beer and watch this!" sorts.
Title: Re: An Adult Should Really Know This - Silly Things You've Had to Tell People
Post by: blue2000 on June 09, 2013, 07:47:45 PM

At that same publishing company, they wanted to drop the "1/2 cup" and just start saying, "1 stick of butter." I guess for now everybody would know, but it just really bothered me, as a copyeditor.

"Stick" is not a universally agreed-upon unit of measurement.

That would not be cool for those, like me, that have to convert everything. Even a cup of butter is a weird concept, even room temp butter would be a pain to cut in little bits to fill up a cup, squashing it so that it's packed, then emptying the cup and having to clean all the greasy residue.

I printed a handy little guide with metric/imperial measures, C° and F°, and what one cup of flour/sugar/butter/rice.. is in grams, and Oz to Grams...