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Title: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Sanity Lost on September 11, 2013, 07:43:22 PM
I didn't want to derail the Snowflakes thread. I have 3 kids (11, 9 and not quite 2). There are movies that while advertised for adults I feel are fine for the older boys to watch. But this is because A. I know my kids and B. I research the movies beforehand. Now there are some that have still caught me by surprise; but not because I wasn't paying attention. There are also some kids movies that my guys are not allowed to watch; because I don't think that they would react well to them.

Adult movies that I approved:
Avengers
Pacific Rim
Battleship
Transformers (the 1st only)
All 3 Men in Black movies
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Robin Hood (Mel Brooks & Kevin Costner Versions)
POTC - all 3 movies

Marketed to kids that surprised me and are on the "no" list now:
Monster House (scared the bejeebers out of me!)
ParaNorman
Coraline

Marketed to kids that are on the no list  off the bat
The incredible Mr. Fox
The Golden Compass


What movies do you approve or disapprove of?
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: cabbagegirl28 on September 11, 2013, 08:11:37 PM
I don't have kids yet, but this is my short, incomplete list of approved/not approved (aside from movies which are normally considered children's movies):

Approved
Ben-Hur; violinp and I watched this from the time we were small and were never really traumatized by it. The scene after the chariot race made me very sad as a little kid, but I understand it better now as a young adult.
Lola rennt (Run, Lola, Run); the only reason this is rated R is because most of the swears were translated as the word that rhymes with duck

Not Approved
Cabaret; I would rather my potential kids see the show as it was meant to be seen. It isn't a PG story, and it's really terrifying for children.
Fiddler on the Roof; The end of this (not the very end, the storyline with the third daughter) terrified me when I was a kid. The ghosts stuff didn't bother me because it was so goofy. But the Chava storyline upset and frightened me a lot, and I worried that that would happen to me if I messed up. I was a little kid; I didn't make sense.
O Brother, Where Art Thou: The Klan scene terrified me at 16 years old. I  know I'm a scaredy-cat with some stuff, but that was just too much.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Girlie on September 11, 2013, 09:08:10 PM
I don't have kids, but there are movies that are so much a part of my husband's and my own upbringing that I cannot imagine them not belonging in my children's lives. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and the Pink Panther movies are on that list, as are the Men in Black movies, Jurassic Park, and the edited t.v. version of Titanic.

Movies I don't watch and would not allow my children to watch - anything horror-genre. There are a few M. Night Shyamalan (sp?) movies I might approve if age-appropriate (like Signs), but that one where the girl's head spins around or people are mauled by vampires or Freddy kills them in their dreams.... No. Absolutely not.

Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: daisy1679 on September 11, 2013, 09:22:09 PM
We allow my kids (both boys, ages 4 & 7 this month) to watch pretty much anything we watch - which is mostly action movies. They love Transformers, POTC, and Indiana Jones. About the only thing I would probably say no to is horror, but we don't watch them so it's never been an issue. I can't think of any "kids" movie I have refused to let them see, although watching some of the older Disney movies I wonder how they got their G reputation (Seriously, Dumbo gets drunk and hallucinates, and that is appropriate for children?).
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Slartibartfast on September 11, 2013, 09:28:32 PM
Babybartfast loves "Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog" almost as much as I do - we've been watching it together since before she really knew there were other options :)  (It's my "house-cleaning" soundtrack . . .)

Can I add in "movies that are fine for my 5-year-old but scared the bejeebus out of me?"  Because "Ghostbusters" is on that list.  It was DH's favorite movie when he was 5, but Slimer coming through the wall in Ghostbusters II gave me nightmares for years.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: jedikaiti on September 11, 2013, 09:31:12 PM
I first saw 2001: A Space Odyssey when I was about 5. I loooved it, but some of the music scared me (specifically the Requiem that plays when you see the Monolith). I was watching it in the basement with my Dad, and every time that music came up, I'd run upstairs to Mom. Then I'd get curious and creep back downstairs. And run back up when the music came up. :-)
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: alkira6 on September 11, 2013, 09:38:27 PM
I didn't want to derail the Snowflakes thread. I have 3 kids (11, 9 and not quite 2). There are movies that while advertised for adults I feel are fine for the older boys to watch. But this is because A. I know my kids and B. I research the movies beforehand. Now there are some that have still caught me by surprise; but not because I wasn't paying attention. There are also some kids movies that my guys are not allowed to watch; because I don't think that they would react well to them.

Adult movies that I approved:
Avengers
Pacific Rim
Battleship
Transformers (the 1st only)
All 3 Men in Black movies
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Robin Hood (Mel Brooks & Kevin Costner Versions)
POTC - all 3 movies

Marketed to kids that surprised me and are on the "no" list now:
Monster House (scared the bejeebers out of me!)
ParaNorman
Coraline

Marketed to kids that are on the no list  off the bat
The incredible Mr. Fox
The Golden Compass


What movies do you approve or disapprove of?

Funny you should say Avengers - out of all the things my nephews could have paid attention to, they had to ask me what a "mewling quim" was.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Asharah on September 11, 2013, 09:40:14 PM
We allow my kids (both boys, ages 4 & 7 this month) to watch pretty much anything we watch - which is mostly action movies. They love Transformers, POTC, and Indiana Jones. About the only thing I would probably say no to is horror, but we don't watch them so it's never been an issue. I can't think of any "kids" movie I have refused to let them see, although watching some of the older Disney movies I wonder how they got their G reputation (Seriously, Dumbo gets drunk and hallucinates, and that is appropriate for children?).
It was unintentional, the alcohol got spilled into his water.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: jedikaiti on September 11, 2013, 09:45:11 PM
I lack kids, so this is theoretical, but the bolded are ones I think I would be OK with.


Adult movies that I approved:
Avengers
Pacific Rim
Battleship
Transformers (the 1st only)
All 3 Men in Black movies
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Robin Hood (Mel Brooks & Kevin Costner Versions)
POTC - all 3 movies


Marketed to kids that surprised me and are on the "no" list now:
Monster House (scared the bejeebers out of me!)
ParaNorman
Coraline

Marketed to kids that are on the no list  off the bat
The incredible Mr. Fox
The Golden Compass

My DH and I are both pretty nerdy, so it's safe to say that the kids will know Star Wars (and probably Star Trek) quite well by the time they're ready for school. :-) Also, if we go into TV series, Doctor Who as well. Well, maybe not some episodes. I can see the Weeping Angels being far too much for some kids.

I'd also let them see Indiana Jones, and Hunt for Red October. Maybe The Mummy if I don't think it would scare them too much.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: *inviteseller on September 11, 2013, 09:52:12 PM
I have a rule that if they want to watch something (we are big Netflix users) and I am iffy, I will watch it first and make a decision.  My girls are 7 & 18 so our viewings are eclectic, but little one handles things pretty good.  Little one is a huge Tim Burton fan and her favorite movie when she was 3 was Corpse Bride.  I don't have much control over the 18 yr old, but have steered her away from a few (American Psycho and Precious, which I love both), but I have made some mistakes in what I allowed thinking it would be ok for her (Wizard of Oz and Beetlejuice gave her nightmares the first time but she loves them now) and The Incredibles..I thought 'Disney cartoon..no problem' until we watched it when she was small and the bad guys are shooting at the kids!!!!  The Do Nots now in the house (for little one) :

Batman Trilogy - I lovelovelove them but they are too intense for her.  Well, basically anything with Christian Bale other than Pocahontas & Newsies
Jurassic Park- Again, a bit too intense, but she is almost there.
Lilo & Stitch- Her daddy died 2 years ago and she is still struggling with it and that movie just is too darn sad (yeah, I admit it, I cry!)


The movies that I let them watch

All the Pirates of the Caribbean
Almost all Tim Burton movies
Pink Panther movies
Original 3 Star Wars
Men in Black
Ghost Busters
And starting when older DD was about 13, Mel Brooks movies..we love History of the Word Part 1 and Young Frankenstein

 
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: violinp on September 11, 2013, 09:53:48 PM
I watched The Godfather at 13. My parents had told me there was scrabbling in it, but I was not at all prepared to see Sonny with the bridesmaid! :o And the horse scene was...shocking, even though I'd seen a fair amount of violence and gore up to that point.

I don't regret seeing that movie at that particular age, but parents of more sensitive souls should probably wait until their kids are well into their teens to show it.

I wouldn't be okay with my kids seeing Indiana Jones movies before preteen age, because the deaths are fairly gruesome (I watched them from behind my eyes until I was in high school) - then again, I wouldn't be okay with the Disney Hunchback of Notre Dame being shown before then either (adult concepts I'm not okay talking about and a man being sent to hell...yeah no.)
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: snowdragon on September 11, 2013, 10:59:02 PM
I was taken to see HELP! ( Beatle's Movie) When I was quite young. Young enough to believe that they were really going to chop off Ringo's finger. I had nightmares for years.  Therefor when I had my nephew full time and when I have my niece and nephew( 8 and 11, respectively )  I am quite strict about what I will allow them to watch.  We're a big Netflix family too

 

Banned

Golden Compass - I won't watch it myself, won't allow it in the house
O, Brother Where Art Thou -- I loved parts of it - but it's not meat for kids. ( the frog scene squicks me out)
A good portion of Disney
Horror/very violent/se*ualized movies.
Alfred Hitchcock
Hunger Games
Man in the Iron Mask
Planet of the Apes




OK-
StarWars
Harry Potter
Sister Act
Lord of the Rings
League of extraordinary Gentleman ( their parents let them watch it at home)
Once Upon a Time in China
Nightmare Before Christmas
A Christmas Carol
Several Shakespearean Plays
Footloose
Star Trek ( other than the Kahn Movies)
Ever After
National Treasure
Corpse Bride.
Indiana Jones

Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: guihong on September 11, 2013, 11:52:15 PM
I remember being dropped off at a movie with a friend when I was 10 (that dates me), and instead of seeing whatever we were supposed to see, we snuck into the other theater to see Glenda Jackson in A Touch Of Class  ;D.   

I saw all the Irwin Allen disaster films by the time I was 12-13.  They were frightening but not gory.

One time, The Blue Lagoon happened to come on TV but my mother hustled over to the set before any of the good parts ;).  How tame it seems now.  But "kids" movies like Bambi or even The Wizard of Oz terrified me.

I had one babysitter that I loved because she would let me come back downstairs and watch Flip Wilson  ;D.  He was considered very risque' for his time.

My kids are 13 and 15 now, but back in their littler days I was more strict:

Banned

South Park (movie, and the show)
The Simpsons movie (I hated Bart with the heat of 10,000 suns)
Any gruesome horror film on par with Friday the 13th (much later, I let them watch the original Halloween because it was considered a landmark film)
Most of Disney, partly for the dark themes and because of my own irritation of the woman rescued by a man storylines.
Alfred Hitchcock was banned until they got older and I could prepare them for The Birds or Vertigo.  I was trying to contrast those films with the Friday the 13th ilk
Any Madea movie, until they got older (only within the last year)

OK-

Original Star Wars
Night at the Museum
Gone With The Wind (in part; DD loved the swirling skirts at the dance and didn't care about the rest of it  ::))
Original Godzilla movies, or any of the 1970's Japanese monster movies. 
Bend it like Beckham
The Day After Tomorrow (when older)
Flushed Away








Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: mbbored on September 12, 2013, 12:07:32 AM
My mother had a rule where if it was based on a book and we could read the book on our own, understand it, and not get nightmares from it, we could see the movie. Which led to my brother and I reading Stephen King at 8 and 10, respectively, in order to see Jurassic Park.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Katana_Geldar on September 12, 2013, 01:00:52 AM
My mother had a rule where if it was based on a book and we could read the book on our own, understand it, and not get nightmares from it, we could see the movie. Which led to my brother and I reading Stephen King at 8 and 10, respectively, in order to see Jurassic Park.
Ummm, what has Stephen King got to do with Jurassic Park? As far as I know, Michael Chricton wrote it.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Pen^2 on September 12, 2013, 01:10:51 AM
My mother had a rule where if it was based on a book and we could read the book on our own, understand it, and not get nightmares from it, we could see the movie. Which led to my brother and I reading Stephen King at 8 and 10, respectively, in order to see Jurassic Park.

Michael Crichton, maybe?  ???

He was fantastic.

And I think that is an excellently perfect rule. I saw Planet of the Apes when I was 8 and loved it, and it was what first got me into physics via relativity. Yet even as an adult I still find Tom and Jerry to be horribly violent and don't enjoy it. And I shall never forget taking my 4 year old brother to see the Thomas the Tank Engine film which frightened him so much that we had to leave after something like 30 minutes (instead of being all about striving to be a "very useful engine," it's rather different: there's a train character with a crane/claw thing that he uses to smash and kill other trains). The variation between kids is tremendous, but the criterion of "Has read the book and still wants to see the film," is wonderfully succinct.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: mbbored on September 12, 2013, 01:12:11 AM
My mother had a rule where if it was based on a book and we could read the book on our own, understand it, and not get nightmares from it, we could see the movie. Which led to my brother and I reading Stephen King at 8 and 10, respectively, in order to see Jurassic Park.
Ummm, what has Stephen King got to do with Jurassic Park? As far as I know, Michael Chricton wrote it.

Thanks for catching that mistake. That's what I get for posting in a hurry while trying to clean the house on a not a lot of sleep.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Allyson on September 12, 2013, 03:15:43 AM
What's the objection behind Golden Compass? I ask because two posters mentioned it as definite no--I read the trilogy it was based on years ago, and watched the movie but don't have much recollection of it besides it not being that good compared to the books! Was there a controversy/bad thing in it I missed, or was it just scary/violent?
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Slartibartfast on September 12, 2013, 07:40:05 AM
What's the objection behind Golden Compass? I ask because two posters mentioned it as definite no--I read the trilogy it was based on years ago, and watched the movie but don't have much recollection of it besides it not being that good compared to the books! Was there a controversy/bad thing in it I missed, or was it just scary/violent?

It was originally intended to be the atheist response to the Chronicles of Narnia.  When the movies came out, there was a big to-do over the anti-religious themes in the film and how they would be confusing to kids raised in religious households - I'm assuming that's a big part of the objection.  (I haven't gotten around to reading the books yet, but I know our library had to buy many, many copies because they kept getting stolen "for the children's own good.")
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Cherry91 on September 12, 2013, 08:24:29 AM
I saw Jurassic Park at the age of three and had nightmares for years. Oddly I love the film now.  ;D

A good way to work out what would work for your children is to look up the official rating given to a film, as it usually tells you the reasons it's say, a PG instead of a U.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Pen^2 on September 12, 2013, 08:37:03 AM
What's the objection behind Golden Compass? I ask because two posters mentioned it as definite no--I read the trilogy it was based on years ago, and watched the movie but don't have much recollection of it besides it not being that good compared to the books! Was there a controversy/bad thing in it I missed, or was it just scary/violent?

It was originally intended to be the atheist response to the Chronicles of Narnia.  When the movies came out, there was a big to-do over the anti-religious themes in the film and how they would be confusing to kids raised in religious households - I'm assuming that's a big part of the objection.  (I haven't gotten around to reading the books yet, but I know our library had to buy many, many copies because they kept getting stolen "for the children's own good.")

THANK YOU now the books all make sense to me. The story was enjoyable and easy enough, and it obviously had a strong anti-dogmatic cult-like religion theme, but Atheist Narnia makes a lot of it seem less random now. I can't believe I didn't work this out myself.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Virg on September 12, 2013, 09:10:39 AM
Our list is based on what's too advanced/too scary so we've got quite a few splits on the list.  For example, my kids have never seen The Terminator but they've seen Terminator 2 many times because the first was really a horror film while the second was an action film.  For the same reason, they've never seen Alien but Aliens is a staple.  Generally, any movie that would qualify as a slasher film or "boo" movie tends to get left out, and movies that contain themes that they're too young to grasp don't get played either.  Language alone generally doesn't get a movie bumped because we've never had issues with them repeating words that they're not supposed to say in public, so stuff like My Cousin Vinny does get put in the player on occasion, but I'd never let them watch Blazing Saddles at their age (12 and 13).  Also, violence alone isn't necessarily a showstopper (I don't think I've ever used that word in literal context before!) as long as the story is compelling enough to allow it and it's not nightmare-inducing.  So Red Tails got a spin on movie night and so did Gettysburg and even Jaws.  But there are limits to that so I'd stop short of letting them see Saving Private Ryan or Enemy At The Gates even though the historical value of those films is immense.

Virg
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: bopper on September 12, 2013, 09:32:01 AM
This is why I say you can see PG-13 when you are 13, R when you are 17 because I don't want to have to figure out what is and isn't appropriate ...those lovely people at the movie association have done that for me.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: daisy1679 on September 12, 2013, 09:33:39 AM
We allow my kids (both boys, ages 4 & 7 this month) to watch pretty much anything we watch - which is mostly action movies. They love Transformers, POTC, and Indiana Jones. About the only thing I would probably say no to is horror, but we don't watch them so it's never been an issue. I can't think of any "kids" movie I have refused to let them see, although watching some of the older Disney movies I wonder how they got their G reputation (Seriously, Dumbo gets drunk and hallucinates, and that is appropriate for children?).
It was unintentional, the alcohol got spilled into his water.

I know that, we actually own the movie :) I still don't think that scene is really appropriate in a movie that is definitely marketed towards young children, even though I do admire Disney's ability to slide that "adult" stuff into their movies without any real protest from parents.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: MorgnsGrl on September 12, 2013, 09:39:38 AM
This is why I say you can see PG-13 when you are 13, R when you are 17 because I don't want to have to figure out what is and isn't appropriate ...those lovely people at the movie association have done that for me.

You might want to think about seeing "This Film Is Not Yet Rated" - it's about the Motion Picture Association of America's rating system and its effect on American culture. We found it pretty interesting and educational.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Film_Is_Not_Yet_Rated

I also like http://www.commonsensemedia.org/ if we're interested in a movie and trying to figure out if it's appropriate for our family. You can find out about things like swearing, depictions of alcohol and drug use, sexual content, etc.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Garden Goblin on September 12, 2013, 10:09:54 AM
Even at 6 I more or less leave it to him.  If it starts looking scary or more than he can handle, he shuts it off himself.

Many of the movies I was forbidden to watch as a kid (and for that matter, movies my mother was forbidden to watch as a kid) he eats up and loves.  The special effects haven't held up to the test of time, so he can easily tell things are fake and just pretend and so loves older scary movies.  I've got a 6 year old Vincent Price fan.  He doesn't care for Hitchcock though.  Monsters he likes, suspense he doesn't.

Basically, if he can see it happen in our living room (people having a beer, the occasional swear room, a glimpse of someone's butt, etc...) I tend not to be too concerned about him seeing it on film.

I don't mind things like the Golden Compass or Narnia for that matter because I like the idea of my kid pondering other viewpoints.  I'm actually more inclined to ban the average romantic comedy than I am something like Golden Compass.  Questioning your faith is okay, not letting a woman say no and stalking her because you are entitled to that big dang kiss is not.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Zilla on September 12, 2013, 10:15:39 AM
I have been pretty lax with my kids in terms of what they watch/read etc.  I do draw the line at nakedness and sex scenes.  Outright sex scenes like True Blood etc.  Plus they are at the age where they don't even want to see kissing so it isn't issue that I have to enforce.  ;D


As for violence, again if it's a Tarantino movie, I know it's all guts and blood and will tell them honestly it won't be something they like.  And they won't protest.


But they do adore action movies so blood/gore is to be expected.  Plus they adore survival fiction and video games.  One of their all times favorite movie is Sucker Punch of all things. 


They never have bad dreams and with shows like Face Off, it's easy to explain to them that the paranormal/demon/monster movies are all fake.  So they have a pretty high threshold for "scary" movies and love them too.  In fact my kid was terrified of Santa, but seriously terrified.  She would hear how Santa can enter any house any time and "check" on them or deliver presents.  And she thought he was going to kidnap her and turn her into an elf.  I told her Santa wasn't real and to ignore my mother who kept insisting he was. Sigh.  She slept with us for a few weeks around Christmas.  After that, no more Santa! lol
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: artk2002 on September 12, 2013, 10:26:52 AM
We allow my kids (both boys, ages 4 & 7 this month) to watch pretty much anything we watch - which is mostly action movies. They love Transformers, POTC, and Indiana Jones. About the only thing I would probably say no to is horror, but we don't watch them so it's never been an issue. I can't think of any "kids" movie I have refused to let them see, although watching some of the older Disney movies I wonder how they got their G reputation (Seriously, Dumbo gets drunk and hallucinates, and that is appropriate for children?).
It was unintentional, the alcohol got spilled into his water.

I know that, we actually own the movie :) I still don't think that scene is really appropriate in a movie that is definitely marketed towards young children, even though I do admire Disney's ability to slide that "adult" stuff into their movies without any real protest from parents.

Now I'd have a problem with the racial stereotypes of the crows. (Trivia: The head crow is voiced by the same man who did Jimminy Cricket.) Now that the boys are older, they can watch this and put the stereotype into context.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: GlitterIsMyDrug on September 12, 2013, 10:29:44 AM
My kids are dogs...we let them watch anything but they prefer anything dog centric. Or animal centric in general.

We were both raised to pretty much watch what we wanted, partner has an older brother and an older sister who liked to let her watch very scary movies at a very young age to "see her reaction" (they were quiet a bit older then her), now she loves horror movies.

For me I was allowed to watch anything as long as it wasn't too violent (no Terminator films for instance, my mom really can't handle violence at all), or something my mother hated. I still hear about how I made her sit through I Heart Huckabees. I remember being a kid and watching Beetle Juice, my grandpa didn't want me to watch it (he thought it'd be too scary), but I freakin loved it! Still do! And she took me to see American Pie when it first came out...I was...11 maybe 12...she didn't exactly know what it was about.

I'd probably any overly gory films (Saw franchise for example, I won't even watch them) are out right off the bat, but otherwise we'll see as we go along. I know when I was a kid my mother loved to use movies to "spark a discussion". For instance, The Little Mermaid. She gives up her voice to get legs and explore the world. What does this say about how our culture views women out on their own? Or when I got into Buffy, we'd discuss how one vampires not real, and then she made me read Dracula and research vampire popularity is the US. When I watched West Side Story with my grandma I ended up reading Romeo and Juliet...I was 9. Then I read Macbeth, the Taming of the Shrew, and A Midsummer Night's Dream. I'll probably end up doing something similar with my own kids.

One of my friend's kids, I do remember was terrified of...Toy Story. Specifically, Buzz Lightyear, when he was about 3. But he accidentally saw some of Texas Chainsaw Massacre (the remake), when his mom thought he was in bed, he just sat down and started watching. Cause Buzz...scary, Leather Face...nice friendly dude. Apparently.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: snowdragon on September 12, 2013, 11:04:32 AM
What's the objection behind Golden Compass? I ask because two posters mentioned it as definite no--I read the trilogy it was based on years ago, and watched the movie but don't have much recollection of it besides it not being that good compared to the books! Was there a controversy/bad thing in it I missed, or was it just scary/violent?

It was originally intended to be the atheist response to the Chronicles of Narnia.  When the movies came out, there was a big to-do over the anti-religious themes in the film and how they would be confusing to kids raised in religious households - I'm assuming that's a big part of the objection.  (I haven't gotten around to reading the books yet, but I know our library had to buy many, many copies because they kept getting stolen "for the children's own good.")


  The author is a bit more vehement than that. He stated openly that his books are about "Killing God" ( http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/12/1071125644900.html) and that he is "trying to undermine the  Christian  religion"("I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief. Mr. Lewis would think I was doing the devil's work."
(Wartofsky, Alona: 'The Last Word' in The Washington Post, 19 February 2001)) , he has been know to mock other people's  belief systems - especially Catholic beliefs.  I do not feel I need to support him in these endeavors, even by mere appearances
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Virg on September 12, 2013, 11:22:59 AM
snowdragon, I get your reasons why you'd avoid that movie, for the same reason that I get people who avoid movies like The Fountainhead or Woody Allen films or such.  My take on the thread was that is was a list of movies that most find inappropriate for kids but good for adults, such that I'd list movies here that I would or wouldn't allow my kids to watch due to content but that I'd watch myself.  That's why I was also a bit confused why The Golden Compass would end up on someone's banned list here.  I didn't recall anything in the movie that I found to be particularly improper for kids, presuming that one didn't find the message to be improper in general.  I wouldn't bother listing films I don't let my kids watch because I won't watch them myself, because that list would be huge.

Virg
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: SiotehCat on September 12, 2013, 12:26:38 PM
My DS is 13 now, but we have never stopped him from watching anything.

I have gotten funny looks and little remarks when DS was much younger and we would take him to a horror movie or other rated R movie. That doesn't bother me. They don't know my DS.

During opening night of The Watchmen, two people that looked like they could have been 18-19 were not allowed in the theater because they didn't have their ID's. But they let me and my DS(then 9)because I am his guardian. That didn't go over well.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Carotte on September 12, 2013, 12:44:51 PM
The way I see it the worst thing to do is not to allow a kid to watch any kind of movie (that might or might not be too much for them or above their age or whatever), but it's to do it and not talk it out with them.
There's few things that can or will scare them out for life if they've been explained to them in terms that they can understand.
And that's true even with movies that can seem inocuous to you. You never know what a kid will freak out about, Santa and clowns are the best exemple."
Maybe little Tim will be scared of the talking dog in the kids show and unphased by the violence in Pacific Rim...
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Yvaine on September 12, 2013, 01:06:13 PM
snowdragon, I get your reasons why you'd avoid that movie, for the same reason that I get people who avoid movies like The Fountainhead or Woody Allen films or such.  My take on the thread was that is was a list of movies that most find inappropriate for kids but good for adults, such that I'd list movies here that I would or wouldn't allow my kids to watch due to content but that I'd watch myself.  That's why I was also a bit confused why The Golden Compass would end up on someone's banned list here.  I didn't recall anything in the movie that I found to be particularly improper for kids, presuming that one didn't find the message to be improper in general.  I wouldn't bother listing films I don't let my kids watch because I won't watch them myself, because that list would be huge.

Virg

The thing with His Dark Materials is that (a) most of the controversial material isn't in book one, and (b) the filmmakers gutted the story anyway and cut a ton of stuff out, and due to it flopping they only made the one. So just from the movie it's hard to figure out what people were upset about. Me, I enjoyed the books and I wish they'd had the chance to make the other two, because I'm curious how they'd have done them--though I'm not sure they wouldn't have gutted them too.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: MrTango on September 12, 2013, 01:11:46 PM
This is why I say you can see PG-13 when you are 13, R when you are 17 because I don't want to have to figure out what is and isn't appropriate ...those lovely people at the movie association have done that for me.

I'm of the exact opposite opinion: I don't trust (or want) some committee somewhere to determine what is and what is not appropriate for my (hypothetical, at this point) children.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that my opinion is different.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Yvaine on September 12, 2013, 01:21:02 PM
Oh, here's an example--The King's Speech was rated R despite being a pretty tame movie with a nice inspirational message--it's because there's one scene where the protagonist rattles off a string of swearwords as an anti-stuttering tool. I'd let my imaginary kids see that movie at about 12, as in old enough to have learned all those words at school anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: SlitherHiss on September 12, 2013, 02:02:11 PM
Oh, here's an example--The King's Speech was rated R despite being a pretty tame movie with a nice inspirational message--it's because there's one scene where the protagonist rattles off a string of swearwords as an anti-stuttering tool. I'd let my imaginary kids see that movie at about 12, as in old enough to have learned all those words at school anyway.  ;D

Excellent example!

Funny that The King's Speech received the same rating as Quills, isn't it? I happily watched the first with my 13yo, and would have been fine with my youngest (DD8) seeing it, too, although she would have been bored to tears. The second? Well, I'm not sure I'll ever think my kids are old enough :D

Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Girly on September 12, 2013, 02:43:12 PM
This is why I say you can see PG-13 when you are 13, R when you are 17 because I don't want to have to figure out what is and isn't appropriate ...those lovely people at the movie association have done that for me.

I'm of the exact opposite opinion: I don't trust (or want) some committee somewhere to determine what is and what is not appropriate for my (hypothetical, at this point) children.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that my opinion is different.

Same here.

When I was 10, my mom and dad let me watch Aliens right before bedtime. I suggest you NOT do that.

My son is almost three, and I don't plan on exactly forbidding him to watch anything - with the exception of maybe the horror movies, and movies that have graphic sexual scenes. 'Regular' violence does not bother me, and if he's 7 and wants to watch The Avengers or something, I'd have no problem letting him.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: jtimenow on September 12, 2013, 02:48:01 PM
Alkira6 please don't laugh but I don't know what a "mewling quim" is either
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: SlitherHiss on September 12, 2013, 03:05:16 PM
Alkira6 please don't laugh but I don't know what a "mewling quim" is either

mewling = whining

quim = well, it's a very naughty word for vagina.

Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Firecat on September 12, 2013, 03:45:49 PM
Alkira6 please don't laugh but I don't know what a "mewling quim" is either

mewling = whining

quim = well, it's a very naughty word for vagina.

I wouldn't say it's a "very naughty" word, just an old-fashioned one - Elizabethan, maybe? But yes, Loki was, in essence, calling Black Widow a...hmmmm...very crude word beginning with "c."
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: SlitherHiss on September 12, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
Alkira6 please don't laugh but I don't know what a "mewling quim" is either

mewling = whining

quim = well, it's a very naughty word for vagina.

I wouldn't say it's a "very naughty" word, just an old-fashioned one - Elizabethan, maybe? But yes, Loki was, in essence, calling Black Widow a...hmmmm...very crude word beginning with "c."

That's what I meant, essentially. The modern equivalent is very crude, and it's clear by the context that that's exactly what he meant.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: asb8 on September 12, 2013, 05:10:13 PM
Listen the commentary track on the DVD. Joss was apparently very proud he slipped that past the censors.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Ms_Cellany on September 12, 2013, 05:17:17 PM
Listen the commentary track on the DVD. Joss was apparently very proud he slipped that past the censors.

He also did that in Firefly with "quim"and  "rutting."
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: GlitterIsMyDrug on September 12, 2013, 05:23:39 PM
Listen the commentary track on the DVD. Joss was apparently very proud he slipped that past the censors.

Oh that Joss...I very much adore him. Now I'm gonna have to go re-watch the Avengers cause I missed that apparently...and then watch the commentary...oh...darn.  ;)
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Katana_Geldar on September 12, 2013, 05:41:41 PM
Joss does that a lot, articulately in Buff with Spike and Giles.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: hobish on September 12, 2013, 06:29:19 PM
I cannot go past this thread without thinking, "You mean like The Green Door or Caligula?" Derp-a-derp.


What's the objection behind Golden Compass? I ask because two posters mentioned it as definite no--I read the trilogy it was based on years ago, and watched the movie but don't have much recollection of it besides it not being that good compared to the books! Was there a controversy/bad thing in it I missed, or was it just scary/violent?

It was originally intended to be the atheist response to the Chronicles of Narnia.  When the movies came out, there was a big to-do over the anti-religious themes in the film and how they would be confusing to kids raised in religious households - I'm assuming that's a big part of the objection.  (I haven't gotten around to reading the books yet, but I know our library had to buy many, many copies because they kept getting stolen "for the children's own good.")


  The author is a bit more vehement than that. He stated openly that his books are about "Killing God" ( http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/12/1071125644900.html) and that he is "trying to undermine the  Christian  religion"("I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief. Mr. Lewis would think I was doing the devil's work."
(Wartofsky, Alona: 'The Last Word' in The Washington Post, 19 February 2001)) , he has been know to mock other people's  belief systems - especially Catholic beliefs.  I do not feel I need to support him in these endeavors, even by mere appearances

No kidding. I thought they were just boring as all get out, but now I feel like I ought to give them another shot. Funny the things you learn here!
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: metallicafan on September 12, 2013, 07:31:20 PM
I have allowed my kids to watch:

Transformers
Fast and Furious
GhostRider
Star Wars
Iron Man

DH and I always watch with them so that we can explain what their seeing, the difference between real and make believe. 
I wouldn't let them watch horror movies.  No way.  I was about 10 when I watched the Exorcist by myself in the dark.  It scared the ehell out of me.  As an adult, however, it is my all time favorite horror movie!
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: katycoo on September 12, 2013, 07:35:37 PM
Movies I don't watch and would not allow my children to watch - anything horror-genre. There are a few M. Night Shyamalan (sp?) movies I might approve if age-appropriate (like Signs), but that one where the girl's head spins around or people are mauled by vampires or Freddy kills them in their dreams.... No. Absolutely not.

Hahaha I LOVED Freddy.  I was about 8 when my dad took me to see #6 in 3D at the movies.

I have no kids to make a decision for but ATEOTD different kids will cope with different themes.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on September 12, 2013, 08:10:58 PM


I don't mind things like the Golden Compass or Narnia for that matter because I like the idea of my kid pondering other viewpoints.  I'm actually more inclined to ban the average romantic comedy than I am something like Golden Compass.  Questioning your faith is okay, not letting a woman say no and stalking her because you are entitled to that big dang kiss is not.

I'm of the same mind when it comes to watching movies that have different spiritual beliefs than ours.  My personal feeling is that if one is exposed to other schools of thought and is given the freedom to think it over, it can only really help them in the end. Even if they choose to stay with their original form of spirituality, they'll still come away with some thoughts on what others believe and hopefully end up more understanding and respectful of other's beliefs.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Sebastienne on September 12, 2013, 08:13:15 PM
I cannot go past this thread without thinking, "You mean like The Green Door or Caligula?" Derp-a-derp.

Me too! As in, "I think Deep Throat might be a little too much for my 7 year old, but he'd really enjoy Planet of the Babes."


 
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: snowdragon on September 12, 2013, 11:19:21 PM
snowdragon, I get your reasons why you'd avoid that movie, for the same reason that I get people who avoid movies like The Fountainhead or Woody Allen films or such.  My take on the thread was that is was a list of movies that most find inappropriate for kids but good for adults, such that I'd list movies here that I would or wouldn't allow my kids to watch due to content but that I'd watch myself.  That's why I was also a bit confused why The Golden Compass would end up on someone's banned list here.  I didn't recall anything in the movie that I found to be particularly improper for kids, presuming that one didn't find the message to be improper in general.  I wouldn't bother listing films I don't let my kids watch because I won't watch them myself, because that list would be huge.

Virg

My take was that we were talking about films marketed to adults  that an kids might happen to like.  While that book might have been a YA book, the movie is more known by adults in my circles.  That said many of the children of parents in my circle know the movie are also of age that need sitters from time to time. One of the things I discuss before making an exception to having kids over, these days  is what types of movies they and I allow.

The last line in the OP was "What movies do you approve or disapprove of?"


So I included my lists of both -approved and disapproved ( or banned). :) 

I think there were a couple of us who listed Golden Compass in the disapproved list,,,and someone asked about reasons....we each explained our reasons.

Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: mechtilde on September 13, 2013, 03:32:12 AM
I get completely puzzled by the ratings system.

Take Doctor Who, for example. It gets shown on UK television at teatime and is aimed at families.

When it comes out on DVD some of them are rated 12. If it's that inappropriate then why isn't it shown after the watershed* at 9pm?

*Anything shown before 9pm is supposed to be appropriate for children to watch, even if it isn't actually aimed at children. After 9pm the content can have a more adult nature.


I tend to watch things and then decide. So my children love Babylon 5 but certainly haven't seen all of it!

As for children's films- my poor mother was bought Bambi on DVD a couple of years ago. She still hasn't watched it, having been very upset when she saw it at the cinema when it came out. It's still in the box, with the seal intact...
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Thipu1 on September 13, 2013, 08:51:43 AM
I've known people who had problems with 'The Sound of Music'. 

They let their children watch but cut it off after the Wedding scene.  Their rationale is that they didn't want the kid's to be 'disturbed' by the Nazis. 
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: cabbagegirl28 on September 13, 2013, 09:27:59 AM
I've known people who had problems with 'The Sound of Music'. 

They let their children watch but cut it off after the Wedding scene.  Their rationale is that they didn't want the kid's to be 'disturbed' by the Nazis.

As someone who had to read Number the Stars and watch The Devil's Arithmetic for English class at age 10, I can assure them that while what the Nazis did made me very sad, it's a part of history that kids need to know about. It's not as if watching that part of the movie is akin to making them watch The Boy in the Striped Pajamas.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: daen on September 13, 2013, 07:11:47 PM
I've known people who had problems with 'The Sound of Music'. 

They let their children watch but cut it off after the Wedding scene.  Their rationale is that they didn't want the kid's to be 'disturbed' by the Nazis. 

The Sound of Music was on TV every year around Christmas. Every year, my parents would let me watch until bedtime.
The last year I remember watching with them, "bedtime" was right after the wedding.

At the moment, I can't decide if it's more likely that they were protecting me, or that it really was bedtime.

Either way, I didn't get the whole story until I watched a kids' theatre production of it. Ironic, no?
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Sharnita on September 13, 2013, 07:17:58 PM
Yeah, I got sent to bed because it was just do late. I had seen other movies and tv shows that depicted Nazis, WW II, the Holocaust, etc. that were more explicit.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: drzim on September 14, 2013, 02:36:59 PM
I've known people who had problems with 'The Sound of Music'. 

They let their children watch but cut it off after the Wedding scene.  Their rationale is that they didn't want the kid's to be 'disturbed' by the Nazis. 

The Sound of Music was on TV every year around Christmas. Every year, my parents would let me watch until bedtime.
The last year I remember watching with them, "bedtime" was right after the wedding.

At the moment, I can't decide if it's more likely that they were protecting me, or that it really was bedtime.

Either way, I didn't get the whole story until I watched a kids' theatre production of it. Ironic, no?

This cracks me up---I was in *college* before I found out there was more to the Sound of Music after the wedding scene.  In my house, we were told it was over after the wedding scene and it made sense....
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: shhh its me on September 14, 2013, 03:12:11 PM
My rules were more about genere then particular movies.

Which my son understood the concept of fiction I was ok with many horror movies and scfi

But I was more strict about romantic comedies and action movies. I think it takes more maturity to see the unreality in a the stalking , cheating , 'he's a misogynistic womanizer but  2 weeks after meeting Miss right he;s really a great guy." then it does to understand the  Aliens and Freddy weren't  real.

So my son watched  Star Wars , Aliens , Evil Dead years before I would even  think about Pretty Woman  being appropriate.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Snooks on September 15, 2013, 10:14:11 AM
Problem is you can't always tell what will affect kids, I broke down watching Black Beauty in the cinema, still can't watch The Goonies and my mom apologised for letting me watch My Girl less than a year after my best friend had died.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Sebastienne on September 15, 2013, 10:36:04 AM
Problem is you can't always tell what will affect kids, I broke down watching Black Beauty in the cinema, still can't watch The Goonies and my mom apologised for letting me watch My Girl less than a year after my best friend had died.

Absolutely. The two most traumatic things I saw as a child were Bambi and the episode of All in the Family where Edith is attacked by a rapist. But we also watched a lot of MTV (not that we necessarily understood a lot of the "questionable" content in videos) and slasher films, which had nowhere near the same effect.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Virg on September 15, 2013, 01:11:59 PM
OK, Snooks, you got me there.  What's hard to watch about The Goonies?

Virg
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on September 15, 2013, 01:31:26 PM
Our older two have seen Down Periscope which does have some adult humor in it but they know not to repeat some of the things they've heard. Neither of them is comfortable with using curse words so we know that if we watch something which does involve cursing, they won't repeat it.

And while it's not really an adult movie they love the part of Deathly Hallows when Molly goes up against Bellatrix, and they love what she says but when they "repeat" it, they say "Not my daughter, you beep!"
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Snooks on September 15, 2013, 02:18:13 PM
OK, Snooks, you got me there.  What's hard to watch about The Goonies?

Virg

Sloth.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Betelnut on September 15, 2013, 02:20:28 PM
OK, Snooks, you got me there.  What's hard to watch about The Goonies?



It's a terrible movie?
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Sharnita on September 15, 2013, 02:43:52 PM
All In the Family is definitely not anything I'd let kids watch.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: mrs_deb on September 15, 2013, 05:52:20 PM
All In the Family is definitely not anything I'd let kids watch.

Really?  I was ~10 years old when it came out, and although I was only able to see it while visiting the US, our family always watched "Til Death Us Do Part", which was the original (UK) version.  It was always made perfectly clear to me that Archie/Alf and Mike were complete caricatures and that no sensible person really believed any of that or acted like that.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Sharnita on September 15, 2013, 05:57:20 PM
Yes, really.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Girlie on September 15, 2013, 09:49:00 PM
Movies I don't watch and would not allow my children to watch - anything horror-genre. There are a few M. Night Shyamalan (sp?) movies I might approve if age-appropriate (like Signs), but that one where the girl's head spins around or people are mauled by vampires or Freddy kills them in their dreams.... No. Absolutely not.

Hahaha I LOVED Freddy.  I was about 8 when my dad took me to see #6 in 3D at the movies.

I have no kids to make a decision for but ATEOTD different kids will cope with different themes.

I know not everyone is like me, but I happen to be pretty weird, in that when I see - or even hear a vivid description - of something terribly gross or violent, it sticks with me. For years. I can't get it out of my head, and the terrorizing thoughts come back at the most inopportune moments. I also suffered from night terrors as a child and young teen, and let me tell you - that's enough to make anyone never, ever want to allow their kids around anything scary.

I actually don't mind the bittersweet and historical movies so much - so something like The Sound of Music would never even cross my mind as a possible ban. For that matter, I loved Steal Magnolias when I was young (though I love it even more as an adult, because the emotions are so much more poignant from this side of life). I also adore Fried Green Tomatoes (but didn't truly understand what happened to the ex-husband until adulthood).
I also loved Grease and Dirty Dancing, but I think I'd probably hold off on those a little longer (teen years) simply for the scrabble messages present in both and the seriously anti-feminist message in Grease.
Something like Ever After, though? In a heartbeat!

Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Sebastienne on September 15, 2013, 11:05:59 PM
All In the Family is definitely not anything I'd let kids watch.

My parents liked to watch All in the Family reruns with us, starting around when my brother and I were 9 or 10, because it opened up some really good dialogue about issues like race, gender, and discrimination, which really were worth discussing as a family. But that one episode, which I caught after school one day on my own, haunted me for a really long time. Some things are not meant to have a laugh track, you know?
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Teenyweeny on September 16, 2013, 03:20:21 AM
Marketed to kids that are on the no list  off the bat
The incredible Mr. Fox
The Golden Compass

Ok, I get why some parents don't like The Golden Compass (it was a terrible film, but I loved all of the books as a kid), but I have to ask, why not Fantastic Mr Fox (which I assume is what you mean)?

Granted, I haven't seen the film, but I did read the book as a kid, and loved it! Is the film some kind of gritty reboot? I read the summary on wikipedia, and although it seems like they completely bastardized the plot (I suppose they'd have to, it was a very short book), I can't see anything to get offended by. Is it the stealing? The animal cruelty practiced by the farmers (although they are shown to be villains)? Is it the fact that farmers are cast as villains? I'm seriously scratching my head here.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Thipu1 on September 16, 2013, 09:13:07 AM
All In the Family is definitely not anything I'd let kids watch.

Really?  I was ~10 years old when it came out, and although I was only able to see it while visiting the US, our family always watched "Til Death Us Do Part", which was the original (UK) version.  It was always made perfectly clear to me that Archie/Alf and Mike were complete caricatures and that no sensible person really believed any of that or acted like that.

Actually, there are people just like Archie Bunker.  My father was outraged that All in the Family made fun of that'good, sensible man'. 
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Betelnut on September 16, 2013, 02:44:01 PM
I remember happily watching All in the Family and Monty Python's Flying Circus as a child. 
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 16, 2013, 03:52:13 PM
My parents were pretty lenient with me as a kid. My dad and I used to watch a lot of action and adventure movies together. My favorite movies were the Schwarzenegger Conan/Red Sonja trio (some dark stuff in those) and The Pirate Movie (rude humor). Every evening after school I watched reruns of Cheers and Night Court--my favorite character on Night Court was Dan the womanizer. Loved Grease and Dirty Dancing, too. This was elementary school, so <10 years old. A lot of the stuff that was just "talk" went over my head.

But we didn't watch Golden Girls or Mama's Family or that sitcom with Nell Carter because my mom didn't like the kind of humor in them. And movies tended to get turned off pretty fast if they had bad language (The Breakfast Club) or really explicit violence (RoboCop). Or animal death/violence, that was something I was really sensitive to--any kind of "animal movie" we just didn't even try, like Lassie or Milo & Otis. The flying monkeys in Wizard of Oz and the Ewok-killing scenes in Return of the Jedi traumatized me so much that I didn't watch either movie in full for about twenty-five years.

I was talking to my 11-year-old cousin the other day and she's started reading the Harry Potter books. She was telling me that the deal was, if she read the book first, she could then watch the movie based on the book, although that rule was going to change soon because the movies go from PG to PG-13 at, I think, number 4 or 5. And, recently she was unable to rewatch the first movie, because her 6-year-old sister was there and her parents thought it would be too much for her. Blew my mind, because I didn't remember my parents putting restrictions like that on me--of course I didn't have any siblings, either, so there was no second child to take into account. But I feel like with most things, it wasn't my parents saying, "No, you can't watch this," it was me saying, "No, I don't want to watch this." Maybe that just means they did their job well! ;)
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: Jones on September 16, 2013, 04:03:57 PM
Last week, DH and I were watching an older Schwarzenegger film. I told DD (turns 8 next month) to watch with us. She popped in and out but said she didn't care for it and went off to play computer Hangman. Taking away the forbidden aspect seems to have worked well for her; she doesn't feel she has to watch something just because she can, she knows it'll still exist if she's interested in it "someday", if that makes sense.

As a side note, my DS (2) loves everything dinosaur, including Discovery channel documentaries; on a whim I let him watch part of Jurassic Park, and, well, he was quickly hooked. He gets that some dinos are carnivores and you have to be careful around carnivores. He himself is very careful with cats; he's been scratched before and is very gentle for his age. No nightmares from him yet.
Title: Re: What adult movies would you allow your kids to see *SO of Snowflakes thread
Post by: cabbagegirl28 on September 16, 2013, 04:40:34 PM
My parents were pretty lenient with me as a kid. My dad and I used to watch a lot of action and adventure movies together. My favorite movies were the Schwarzenegger Conan/Red Sonja trio (some dark stuff in those) and The Pirate Movie (rude humor). Every evening after school I watched reruns of Cheers and Night Court--my favorite character on Night Court was Dan the womanizer. Loved Grease and Dirty Dancing, too. This was elementary school, so <10 years old. A lot of the stuff that was just "talk" went over my head.

But we didn't watch Golden Girls or Mama's Family or that sitcom with Nell Carter because my mom didn't like the kind of humor in them. And movies tended to get turned off pretty fast if they had bad language (The Breakfast Club) or really explicit violence (RoboCop). Or animal death/violence, that was something I was really sensitive to--any kind of "animal movie" we just didn't even try, like Lassie or Milo & Otis. The flying monkeys in Wizard of Oz and the Ewok-killing scenes in Return of the Jedi traumatized me so much that I didn't watch either movie in full for about twenty-five years.

I was talking to my 11-year-old cousin the other day and she's started reading the Harry Potter books. She was telling me that the deal was, if she read the book first, she could then watch the movie based on the book, although that rule was going to change soon because the movies go from PG to PG-13 at, I think, number 4 or 5. And, recently she was unable to rewatch the first movie, because her 6-year-old sister was there and her parents thought it would be too much for her. Blew my mind, because I didn't remember my parents putting restrictions like that on me--of course I didn't have any siblings, either, so there was no second child to take into account. But I feel like with most things, it wasn't my parents saying, "No, you can't watch this," it was me saying, "No, I don't want to watch this." Maybe that just means they did their job well! ;)

I'd catch the occasional episode of Golden Girls in my teen years (I'm a full-blown fan now), and all my mom said against it was, "Why are you watching a show about four old ladies?" To be fair, she and Dad had let violinp and me watch Johnny Quest when we were 7 and CSI when we were 9 (I saw the furries episode when I was 12, and that was a ton more traumatizing than hearing about Blanche's wild nights).

With the book/movie thing, my mom had to lay down the law sometimes. For example, I wanted to go see Passion of the Christ when she had to review the movie. I tried telling her that I'd read the story four different ways, and that I wouldn't scream at all. Mom, knowing better, told me no, and said later that the sound effects would have had me in tears. But in general, both violinp and I were really intelligent kids who knew when we shouldn't be watching certain movies or TV shows.

I distinctly remember Mom getting upset when I was a kid about Deadwood when I decided to watch an episode with Dad, but I told violinp a couple of days ago regarding that, "Honestly, if I wanted to listen to that many uses of the f-word, I'd go stub my toe instead." I wasn't really bothered by much that wasn't a horror movie or crime drama when I was a kid.