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General Etiquette => Etiquette of the Rich and Famous => Topic started by: veryfluffy on September 16, 2013, 08:53:25 AM

Title: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: veryfluffy on September 16, 2013, 08:53:25 AM
So this is in the UK papers this week:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2419551/Weathergirl-Sian-distraught-shes-barred-stepdaughters-lavish-wedding-Blairs-son.html

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/429661/Sian-Lloyd-puzzled-over-Euan-Blair-s-wedding-rejection

Briefly, former UK prime minister Tony Blair's eldest son marries his girlfriend of four years, Suzanne.

Her father's wife, Sian Lloyd (whom he met and married about six years ago, his marriage to the bride's mother having ended 13 years ago) was "disinvited" to the wedding, and told she would not be welcome at the Blair home, where the reception was to be held. This is despite having received an invitation (by name) previously.

Shows that even the great and good are incapable of behaving in a civilised manner?
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Zilla on September 16, 2013, 09:00:56 AM
Honestly I think it's rude of Sian to publicly disclose her disinvite making it all about her and tarnishing the otherwise lovely day for her step daughter. 


Yes it was rude to take back the invitation but it should have remained a private matter. 
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Sharnita on September 16, 2013, 09:46:35 AM
I would assume Tony Blair has no more say over this than her father does so I wouldn't attribute it to him. It sounds like private family business being made public.
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: blue2000 on September 16, 2013, 11:35:03 AM
One of the articles I read mentioned (briefly) that she was disinvited because she was insulting to one of the other parents, I think the bride's mother?

So she knows why she was not invited. But she is kicking up a fuss and pretending she doesn't. At one point I think she was even talking about crashing the wedding anyway ??? invite or not. But of course since she publicly announced that, I'm sure the bride and groom made sure she wasn't able to. I had to wonder from reading all that tripe if this was even the first offence. She sounds like a peach to deal with. :P
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Shoo on September 16, 2013, 11:56:50 AM
Because they had to have known this would go public, I imagine they had a VERY good reason for disinviting her.  They were apparently willing to suffer the fall-out for it, so she must have done something really bad to get disinvited. 
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: rose red on September 16, 2013, 01:10:52 PM
If one of my invited guests insult one of my parents, you bet they will be uninvited.  I can think of many reasons to disinvite someone so I'm not going to judge the couple without knowing the details.
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Twik on September 16, 2013, 01:15:44 PM
I have to say if you're suddenly disinvited, after being invited by name (and being the wife of the Bride to Be's father), there's some very serious trouble going on. And if she's talking about "crashing" the wedding anyway, it sounds like it was caused by her, originally.

Of course, a couple of centuries ago, the great would have solved this by sending her to a dungeon for a few decades, if not to the block. However, we *are* more civilized today, although the existence of the yellow press might argue otherwise.
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Winterlight on September 16, 2013, 01:24:44 PM
I don't think it's any reflection on Mr. Blair- he didn't ban her, the HC did.

I think less of her for announcing it and making private business public.
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Shoo on September 16, 2013, 02:13:56 PM
And really, what's a HC *supposed* to do?  Let the person who did something horrible to them come to the wedding and have to provide food and entertainment to her? 

Nobody should be penalized for inviting someone to their wedding.  If that person turns around and poops on them, that person DESERVES to be disinvited.

Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: English1 on September 17, 2013, 08:33:07 AM
But this is not a normal situation.

This is the ex Prime Minister of the UK.

She is a journalist.

The story coming out is that she recently interviewed Blair and, like a journalist should, didn't suck up to him as a future vaguely 'in-law', but did a normal interview, which included some criticism of him over the Iraq war. The interview is to be broadcast this week.

So..this is trickier than a normal family situation.

Should they have refused to do the interview because of their future connection (albeit a loose one?)
Should she never criticise him again, as a journalist, because of their loose connection?
Should the Blairs accept a separation between their professional and personal relationships?

Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Twik on September 17, 2013, 08:42:11 AM
I think there's a conflict of interest right off if she expects to be more than a puff interviewer. No matter how it goes, it's going to end badly for someone, possibly everyone.

In a perfect world, one might harshly drag one's future in-law (not sure what the "vaguely" is in reference to) over the coals in public, and both of you agree "nothing personal" afterwards. In real life, it's not that easy. Politicians still have feelings, and if you're going to take an adversarial approach in public, you'll have to expect it to rub off in private as well.

That's assuming this is the real problem. A woman who announces she's going to "crash" a wedding she's been told she isn't welcome at strikes me as someone who might very well have created other issues within her family.
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: *inviteseller on September 17, 2013, 09:20:57 AM
I hate when people air their dirty laundry for all to see.  And this new found love of going to the media to air your grievances tends to backfire, because 9 out of 10 times the whiners screaming they have been wronged are the instigators of the trouble in the first place.  And I personally feel she is committing professional Darwinism.  She could have just kept her mouth shut and let her absence been noted (and I'm sure it would have been) and when people asked why she wasn't there she could have just said one of our lines on here "Oh I'm not sure, you will have to ask the Blairs" then bean dip. Now, people are not going to want to give her interviews because of her behavior.   I have a feeling this woman is a pot stirrer.

And POD to Twik on this interview being a conflict of interest.
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: shhh its me on September 17, 2013, 10:22:31 AM
But this is not a normal situation.

This is the ex Prime Minister of the UK.

She is a journalist.

The story coming out is that she recently interviewed Blair and, like a journalist should, didn't suck up to him as a future vaguely 'in-law', but did a normal interview, which included some criticism of him over the Iraq war. The interview is to be broadcast this week.

So..this is trickier than a normal family situation.

Should they have refused to do the interview because of their future connection (albeit a loose one?)
Should she never criticise him again, as a journalist, because of their loose connection?
Should the Blairs accept a separation between their professional and personal relationships?

Assuming thats true and the only truth.  Being an adverse journalist is a good reason not to invite someone into your private home. ie
If Madona's daughter was about to marry the son of a paparazzi who weeks before the wedding sold pics of Madona I would expect them t be banned from her home as well.
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Twik on September 17, 2013, 10:23:48 AM
And this new found love of going to the media to air your grievances tends to backfire, because 9 out of 10 times the whiners screaming they have been wronged are the instigators of the trouble in the first place.

And pod to you for this.
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Library Dragon on September 17, 2013, 10:28:26 AM
I hate when people air their dirty laundry for all to see.  And this new found love of going to the media to air your grievances tends to backfire, because 9 out of 10 times the whiners screaming they have been wronged are the instigators of the trouble in the first place.  And I personally feel she is committing professional Darwinism.  She could have just kept her mouth shut and let her absence been noted (and I'm sure it would have been) and when people asked why she wasn't there she could have just said one of our lines on here "Oh I'm not sure, you will have to ask the Blairs" then bean dip. Now, people are not going to want to give her interviews because of her behavior.   I have a feeling this woman is a pot stirrer.

And POD to Twik on this interview being a conflict of interest.

Good points.  The appearance is to make the wedding all about her.  She could have been wronged the party, but by mentioning it casts her in a negative light. 
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Twik on September 17, 2013, 11:48:24 AM
Of course, it's easy to say "They banned me because I'm a hard-charging journalist," not "I was catty about the bride's biological mother, to the point we couldn't be in the same room together, and for some reason the bride wanted her biomom there instead of me."

I really wouldn't, as a journalist, try do an adversarial interview with my stepdaughter's FIL-to-be shortly before the wedding. Someone should have realized that this was not going to make for a happy reception.
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: MyFamily on September 17, 2013, 12:10:53 PM
But this is not a normal situation.

This is the ex Prime Minister of the UK.

She is a journalist.

The story coming out is that she recently interviewed Blair and, like a journalist should, didn't suck up to him as a future vaguely 'in-law', but did a normal interview, which included some criticism of him over the Iraq war. The interview is to be broadcast this week.

So..this is trickier than a normal family situation.

Should they have refused to do the interview because of their future connection (albeit a loose one?)
Should she never criticise him again, as a journalist, because of their loose connection?
Should the Blairs accept a separation between their professional and personal relationships?

But she's not a journalist.  As far as I can see online, she is called a 'weather girl' (hate the phrase, prefer meteorologist, but she may not have the actual degree to be called that) or "news presenter" (I read that to mean someone who reads the news reports off a teleprompter, not someone who does interviews).  So, if she did an interview with the Blairs, I could understand why they'd expect that it would be a fluff piece, because she doesn't have the history of doing hard pieces (at least as far as I could find - but then again, I also didn't spend more than 5 minutes looking).  I also can't find any mention of an interview on line...I can find an interview she gave where she made it clear she does not support Blair's actions in regard to the war in Iraq.
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Twik on September 18, 2013, 09:02:10 AM
A weatherperson? Oh, I can understand how that could cause issues, if she lured Blair into an interview "because we're faaaaamily", and then went all Anderson Cooper on him.

On the other hand, this may be *her* cover story, if the real story is that she was rude to/about the bride's mother. "Oh, it has nothing to do with the fact that I wanted to be walk the bride down the aisle with her father, and have her mother sit in the very back pew. No, it's the Blairs punishing me for my journalistic integrity."
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Queen of Clubs on September 23, 2013, 10:05:06 AM
I don't think she's a news presenter.  There are *two* Sian Lloyds - both of whom are Welsh.  One, Siān Mary Lloyd is an ITV weather forecaster and she's the one married to Jonathan Ashman.  Her IMDb profile is here:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0516135/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

The other is a Welsh news presenter, her name is Sian (no ^ above the 'a') and her IMDb profile is here:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4087482/?ref_=fn_al_nm_2

As for the actual issue at hand, it sounds as though the Blairs have refused to comment at all, while Siān has given a few interviews about it.  I think the happy couple must have had a really good reason for disinviting her, especially as they had to know it'd hit the media.
Title: Re: Tony Blair's son gets married - wife of bride's father barred from wedding
Post by: Twik on September 23, 2013, 10:19:02 AM
Whatever the truth of the matter, she will very likely never, ever get another chance to interview the Blairs. Talk about burning bridges both professionally and personally!