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Title: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 19, 2013, 08:29:47 PM
Don't be embarrassed if you love them! ;D Okay, maybe a little embarrassed, if you're like me and have two shelves and a drawer full of blank notebooks, plus dozens more stashed under the bed...

My most recent spree was at Target. They carry a line called "Green Inspired," which has blank notebooks and journals in different sizes and types. I haven't written in any yet, but the paper quality seems remarkably good, especially considering the price.

Another good place to look is Michael's, the hobby store. The dollar bins upfront are good for small, cheap notebooks; and my store at least has an aisle farther back of matching party favors in different themes, which often include hardback journals.

Also, Barnes & Noble has a line of journals in a couple different sizes, which are quite substantial and good quality. They always have them in the bargain section and they're usually very reasonably priced. They haven't changed the designs in a while, though, so I think I have them all as of right now.

My new thing is softcover notebooks of roughly 8.5x11 or A4 size, which are fairly thin, like maybe 25 sheets/50 pages. About a year ago I found this store at a mall called Typo (Cotton On is the main brand, for clothing) and they had six packs of A4 notebooks like this on sale. I bought a couple packs (12 notebooks) and have since used 10 of them. Perhaps I should mention I write stories in all of these notebooks. The Typo notebooks are perfect for giving a story a substantial start, but without the intimidation factor of cracking open a 200 page bound journal. I cannot apparently find these exact same things anywhere, but I've been looking for similar items.

Pens: I like gel pens and rollerballs best. My very favorite is the G2, followed by the Pilot Precise V5 (capped has a slight edge over retractable as I like to watch the ink in the window). Pentel Energels are nice too. I don't like pens that get blobby, OR that take too long to use up! I need the positive reinforcement of emptying pens to keep me going. ;D
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on September 19, 2013, 10:03:41 PM
I don't have quite that many empty journals, but I do tend to go through them pretty quickly.  I use them as my recipe books.  I like the G2's.  I have pretty bad writing, so I need journals that have college ruled pages rather than wide ruled pages.  I also can't use pens that are too fine.  my handwriting ends up looking like chicken scratch and then I can't read it.

I'll take pretty much any design as long as it isn't pink.  I despise the pink is for girls idea.

Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 19, 2013, 10:42:38 PM
Using them as recipe books is a cool idea! My mom has a composition notebook she uses for recipes she's made. She can either tape a printed copy of the recipe in it or write the ingredients down, and note any changes she made to it as well. It just goes by date, so it isn't perfectly organized, but she enjoys browsing through it.

As I said, I write stories in my journals/notebooks. My goal is always to type the stories later and throw the notebooks away (though I'm always woefully behind in typing). So, although I like having something nice to write in, ultimately I'm going to throw it away, so I don't want to spend a LOT of money on it.

Generally I like the fine-point pens, although I use a lot of mediums as well. Really fine needle-points can be novel for a while, but some kinds of paper just seem to swallow them up and the handwriting is hard to read because the lines are so fine. This seems to happen more on lower-quality paper, like your standard looseleaf filler. One of the many things I like about the G2's is that they seem to work well on a wide variety of papers--thick, thin, wide lines, small lines. Some of my friends don't like them, and gel pens in general, because they say they smear, but for whatever reason I don't seem to have much problem with that.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on September 19, 2013, 10:56:08 PM
Yeah,

It's actually how I keep track of things.  All of my recipe books are different.  So I know just by looking which recipe is in which book. 
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Mel the Redcap on September 19, 2013, 11:11:45 PM
Mmm, staaaationery. ;D

I love the buffalo notebooks from Typo, the A5 size with an elastic band holding the cover shut. I have... er... several. *shifty eyes* They keep going on sale!

I also adore the Zequenz 360o notebooks. They have the thin, strong, smooth paper I prefer (that doesn't let ink bleed through easily!) and are ruled or gridded with very narrow lines - I like 5mm lines (about 1/4") because I write small when I'm concentrating. You can also open them out flat or wrap the front around to the back without damaging the spine at all.

Moleskine notebooks are good too, but tend to be expensive! I got a bunch of A4 grid books on sale and have been using them to plan quilts.

Leuchtturm1917 are another brand I love but won't/can't buy at full price. Solid, hard-wearing hardcover notebooks in a bunch of different sizes and styles, with lovely paper, attached elastic band, and a ribbon bookmark sewn into the spine.

As for pens, I like very fine-tipped pens (goes with my teeny handwriting) with dark black ink. The Typo 'Spinout' pens are both good AND very cheap!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 19, 2013, 11:24:42 PM
I got some A5 Spinout notebooks from the Typo store, too! ;D They were on sale for a dollar--not sure I would have paid the US$5 price on the sticker, as they're pretty small.

I've been getting into Moleskine a bit, too. They ARE expensive. I like the look and feel of them, but one issue so far is that the lines are almost too small for me--college-ruled is fine, but these really require that I make sure I have a fine-point pen and some concentration! :) My handwriting ranges all over the place in size, depending on how tired/relaxed I am--looking through a whole notebook it sometimes looks like several different people have been writing in it! :D

I put a Leuchtturm1917 large ruled notebook on my Amazon list just now! The real purpose of this thread emerges, mwhahaha... I don't get why "large" so often means what I consider less than full-sized, though. The "large" notebook here is about 6" x 8" whereas to me the largest size ought to be 8.5x11 or A4. Same with Moleskine--their "extra large" Cahier notebook is the biggest they have, and it's only 7.5x10, so almost what I would call standard size, but not quite.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Ereine on September 20, 2013, 12:05:24 AM

I keep buying blank notebooks in the hope that I'll turn into someone who keeps sketch journals but so far it hasn't happened. I like unlined pages even for writing, I don't mind if my lines end up crooked, I don't like the look of lined pages. I bought some cheap notebooks that have nice bamboo paper, very smooth. They also had nice brown paper covers so I can draw on them too.

Ikea launched their paper stuff recently, they had some nice looking and cheap things, I don't know about the quality.

I only like black Uniball micro pens for writing. The ink dries quickly and doesn't smear and it's pretty fine and I can't ruin the tip by pressing too hard. For drawing I like quite fine Neopiko pens (I've also quite many of their markers, which I never use).
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: poundcake on September 20, 2013, 06:46:22 AM
I have notebooks for classes, smaller ones for conferences, ones for story ideas and outlines, and, of course, ones for journaling. I stocked up on some of these last year, because they're awesome:

http://www.mymaido.com/236-kyokuto-guildford-edinburgh-cambridge-notebooks

Also, the only appropriate pens are medium-point blue. Those fine-tip ones are an abomination.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Thipu1 on September 20, 2013, 07:45:42 AM
Are there any other lovers of paper clips among us? 

I have German, Italian, brass and scads of different plastic kinds.  The gem of my collection is one from 'Enron Gas Services'. 
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: HGolightly on September 20, 2013, 07:51:01 AM
I love this thread! I am a stationary addict and my vice is pens. Being a dyslexic leftie I am very particular a out pens. They have to be inky, archival pens with a very fine tip (otherwise I drag my hand through when I write smearing the ink). Last year our local discount store cleared out the sharpie fine line pens for fifty cents a pack! I bought all they had. This year I found the same pens at Target in purple and turquoise which kinda rock.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: atirial on September 20, 2013, 08:46:31 AM
Hello, my name is atirial and I'm a stationary addict. I have piles of notebooks, mostly filled, but I can never find the note I need when I need it. There are three unopened boxes of Bic Biros on the desk behind me, and a pile of empty notebooks on my computer...

I think I need help.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 20, 2013, 09:24:00 AM
Hello, my name is atirial and I'm a stationary addict. I have piles of notebooks, mostly filled, but I can never find the note I need when I need it. There are three unopened boxes of Bic Biros on the desk behind me, and a pile of empty notebooks on my computer...

I think I need help.

You just need help getting organized! ;) I like Post-it notes and tape flags for making quick bookmarks in a notebook. Both the regular paper Post-it notes and the more plastic-y flags come in various sizes, depending on what you need. They even have extra-stiff flags that are meant to replace the tabs on tabbed divider sheets.

Oh, paperclips... I had to stop buying them, and tell my mom to stop buying them for me, because I just wasn't using them fast enough. I like the plastic-coated ones in bright colors and patterns. One of the office supply stores around here has a station kind of like the Jelly Belly or colored M&Ms dispensers at candy stores--they have paperclips, pushpins, butterfly clips, etc. in half a dozen bright colors, each thing and color in its own bin, and empty containers of various sizes and shapes that you can fill with whatever you want. Seriously, it kind of makes me drool. But I have about three of those giant containers of colorful paperclips that I've never even opened, so I need to restrain myself. :(

Kyokuto notebooks... I checked out the link, how awesome! They don't seem to really have them at Amazon (my dealer of choice), but I might buy them from the Maido website. They seem reasonably priced, and free shipping over $25!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Thipu1 on September 20, 2013, 09:43:27 AM
This thread IS great fun. 

A while back we were able to secure colored staples.  We had them in red, pink, blue, yellow and green.  When readers used the Ref desk stapler for their Photocopies they often did a double take. 

The library also had a vintage stapler.  It held a roll of wire that it would cut and fold into a staple. 

Wouldn't it be neat of there was an office supply museum somewhere?
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Sapphire23 on September 20, 2013, 10:22:30 AM
This thread IS great fun. 

A while back we were able to secure colored staples.  We had them in red, pink, blue, yellow and green.  When readers used the Ref desk stapler for their Photocopies they often did a double take. 

The library also had a vintage stapler.  It held a roll of wire that it would cut and fold into a staple. 

Wouldn't it be neat of there was an office supply museum somewhere?

You mean like this?  http://www.officemuseum.com/exhibits.htm
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: cwm on September 20, 2013, 10:23:20 AM
Yay, I'm not the only leftie with pen issues! The hardest part is trying to learn actual calligraphy. I've since pretty much given up, the leftie nibs are nearly three times as expensive as standard and I have to wait for things to dry fully before moving on to the next stroke, which ruins the whole flowing aspect of it.

I love notebooks and pens too. At work they provide us with steno notebooks, which are good enough for all the notes and random things at work. I'm much partial to large spiral notebooks (5 subject, usually) college rule. The multiple subjects are for the multiple things I need notebooks for. When I was in college, a 5 subject notebook lasted me for two classes because the other three subjects were journals, poetry, fiction, recipes, whatever else happened to fill it.

As far as pens go, I love the G2 pens. Also, Pilot B2P is really nice. I also really like Uni Ball 207s. I've actually got one of each I use every day (different colors) and they're by far my favorite pens. Now if only I could order ink cartridges in various colors for each of them, I'd be set. As it is I traded out the ink on my G2s, the black pen has red ink. Apparently it makes it much less likely that someone will steal the pen and keep it. I'm the only one in the office who's done that, so if mine goes missing and someone else has another black pen with red ink without a corresponding red pen and black ink, I'll know who to blame.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 20, 2013, 10:35:59 AM
I love the idea of colored staples! I'm not sure I've ever seen any, but I don't staple things too much, so I might not have looked hard.

I will check out the Pilot B2P pens. I always see the big advertisement of "made of recycled plastic bottles!" and I wonder if that's just a big gimmick, like the pens don't actually work that well. I'm glad to have a recommendation for them!

I like the Uniball Signo pens--I think maybe those are same as 207? They really got me on their new BLX line, though. ::) "Revolutionary new colors!" I guess I thought they'd discovered a new wavelength of light or something? They call them "black-infused red," "black-infused green," "black-infused blue..." Black-infused green is... black. Black-infused blue is... black. Black-infused red is... a muddy brown. At least, this is my experience with them, on a variety of papers. Don't get me wrong, the actual pen is nice and writes well, I just wouldn't have spent the extra money for the "new" colors if I'd known.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Thipu1 on September 20, 2013, 10:36:28 AM
This thread IS great fun. 

A while back we were able to secure colored staples.  We had them in red, pink, blue, yellow and green.  When readers used the Ref desk stapler for their Photocopies they often did a double take. 

The library also had a vintage stapler.  It held a roll of wire that it would cut and fold into a staple. 

Wouldn't it be neat of there was an office supply museum somewhere?

You mean like this?  http://www.officemuseum.com/exhibits.htm

Thank you.  It looks like the perfect place to spend a rainy afternoon.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: GlitterIsMyDrug on September 20, 2013, 10:53:30 AM
My partner recently gave me the best gift in the world. She said "Ya know Glitter, my office at work, it's blah. Can you pick me up some fun office stuff?"...she gave me a reason to spend hours in office supply stores!!! I mean, I did it anyways, but now I had an excuse!!!!

I love office supplies. It's kind of a thing in my family. Staplers, pens, I have a box filled with spiral notebooks, folders, binders. I get more excited then I should when I see school supplies roll out. I keep saying I'm gonna go back to school just to have a reason to buy school supplies. Though this year I got to have some fun, a friend of mine is a teacher so I asked if I could donate things to her class room, she said yes and oh boy! She teaches second grade, so you still get to buy the fun stuff!

I think I spent more time decorating my home office then my bedroom.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: daen on September 20, 2013, 11:01:33 AM
I love browsing stationery, but rarely buy anything.

However...
I spent some time testing out various pens when I started doing an accounting course that required me to handwrite various ledgers. My go-to pens had a hideous tendency to drop blots on the ledger paper.
A friend of mine had a selection of pens of various makes that he'd collected over the years, and he handed them over for my deliberations. I settled on a nice Parker (bottom of the line, so around $8 each, if I recall - but a distinct step up from the black finetip Papermate pens that I bought for $10 a box), and I buy an extra every so often.

I put together a writer's kit for my sister for her birthday - a Parker, a wooden box full of slips with writing prompts on it,  a Staples-brand little notebook with a matching pen slipped through the loop on the binding, and (I think) a larger notebook as well. I bought a mini-notebook and pen for myself at the same time, and it has seen so much use this year - it fits nicely in my purse or my knitting bag, so grocery lists and tracking the rows on the current knitting pattern both happen inside. Sadly, the binding isn't wonderful: pages have come loose, and I've had to reinforce the loop for the pen. It's been worth the dollar I spent on it, though...

One of the benefits of this workplace is that we have a big supply shelf in the mailroom, and we can help ourselves to whatever we need. As a result, I've tried out a few pens new to me, and have become rather fond of a black rollerball pen. I'd specify make and model, but in order to keep it at my desk, I ended up taping a fake daffodil to the top of the pen so that no one could possibly mistake it for his/her own and walk away with it. The tape obscures all the writing on the clip except G-2. On the plus side, I was able to keep track of the pen long enough to run it dry, then start on a second (also daffodil-bedizened).
The standard notebook on the supply shelf is 7.75x5", coil bound, green paper (narrow ruled with blue lines), 70 pages, and I've grown rather fond of that as well. I don't think I'd buy one for personal use, though - it's too strongly associated with work.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Syfygeek on September 20, 2013, 11:21:07 AM
I love this thread!

My go to pen is the Sharpie Pen, but only the retractable ones. It's thicker than a regular pen and makes it easier to grip for me. Second is tied between Pilot G2 fine point and Pentel RSVP medium.

My boss likes to sign documents with a "nice pen" so I get him the Varsity disposable fountain pen, writes like a fountain pen, and is about 2 bucks. So when he loses it, it's no big deal.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: ladyknight1 on September 20, 2013, 12:02:30 PM
At work and at home, I must have:

Metal (!) Swingline stapler
Tape dispenser
At least 3 sizes and colors of Post-It notes
Fiskars scissors

I love very fine pens, .3 - .5 are my favorites. I like the Pilot Precise V5 retractables best, since I don't have to worry about losing the cap. I also have a large collection of Staedtler pens and highlighters.

My favorite paper is a heavy bond, college ruled and perforated spiral notebook with a plastic cover and heavy cardboard back. Mead makes a professional line that meets my requirements and those are sold at warehouse stores in packs of 4 for $11 US.

For school, I go at the beginning of the fall semester and buy different color covered spiral notebooks, enough for one each for all my classes and all of DS' high school classes. I have the Post-It labels and label tape to label each one for organization.

I don't like notebooks with dividers.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: jaxsue on September 20, 2013, 12:08:50 PM
I love office supplies! And I don't even work in an office.  :)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Sirius on September 20, 2013, 12:17:11 PM
It's nice to see that I'm not the only one who buys pens by the package and notebooks by the gross. 

Right now I've got 6 of the Phat pads on my desk, little notebooks that are 6.875 in x 4.875 inch.  I use them for transcription words.  One has a list of my shortcuts, and two others have pages I made up for particular procedures with shortcuts.  Yet another is full of obscure terms I've encountered.  I usually hear a few a week, so I can go through a notebook like this in a year or so.  When I was the church's music leader I used notebooks like these to list the hymns, solos, etc. since they fit on the podium much better than full-sized notebooks. 

I prefer the wider ruled paper and medium point pens, because I've always had large handwriting.  Right now I'm writing with a Bic round Stic pen.  They work just fine for me.  My favorite "fancy" pens are the R2 INC ones I get at the dollar store.  For a long time they only came in blue and black, but this past summer I found them in bright colors. 

I've also got a bunch of diaries.  I've started keeping one on my desk to write my thoughts as I'm working; it's rather "stream of consciousness" in style, but great to record the last job number of the previous day so I can see where we are.  I also write down non-work items that are important, like strange weather or when the letter carrier complained about the bushes needing to be trimmed.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: jayhawk on September 20, 2013, 01:21:08 PM
My dad worked at an office supply store when I was growing up. It was in an old building downtown. The smell of ink brings me back in an instant! They sold and serviced mimeograph machines (later copiers) and adding machines in the back and had pens, pencils, etc. in the front. 

I don't dare go into Office Max or Office Depot (we don't have a Staples here) without a very short list.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 20, 2013, 01:44:39 PM
It was definitely the back-to-school sales that broke me this year! I was doing so well trying to use up the notebooks I already have. But then I cracked and bought a few new notebooks, and next thing you know, I'm doing a sweep of all the office supply stores in town. Gordman's used to have some nice stationary for cheap, but it seems like they've gotten rid of it all. TJ Maxx had some nice journals on sale, though. I've come to quite like the brand C.R. Gibson--they have several different types of bound journals that are pretty to look at and seem to have good quality paper.

I am such a sucker for any journal with a pretty collage on it. ::) They're often about cities, mostly Paris for some reason--silhouette of the Eiffel Tower, some handwritten French words, perhaps a bird or flower or bicycle... A lot of my long-sleeved t-shirts are like that, too. I must have half a dozen shirts exalting Paris.

Oh, Joann Fabrics was a good place for journals, too. They also have "dollar bins," although a lot of stuff is actually more than a dollar, although not much more. I think mostly they had the spiral-bound journals with hard covers.

I used a Sharpie pen I picked up somewhere, and it wasn't really my cup of tea. It wasn't as fine a point as I'd expected and I didn't like the way it got fainter and fainter as it was used up. That kind of drives me crazy, because it's often such a gradual thing that I don't notice it right away, then I flip back through several pages like, "How did I put up with this!?" But, so many other people seem to like them, that I might try a few more. Maybe I just got a dud or something.

I also recently tried a Zebra G-301 retractable gel pen and quite liked it. They're a little more expensive because they're made of steel (?? I'm not building a skyscraper here!) and you're supposed to refill them. My dad LOVES refillable pens. I dunno, I have a short attention span and I get bored if a pen lasts too long.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Thipu1 on September 20, 2013, 02:03:51 PM
I know this is strange but I often think a notebook appeals because it's literally a tabula rasa.

  The cover, the style, the paper all suggest a certain personality but you never know exactly how it will turn out.  A Celtic style may wind up holding recipes.  A Chinese style may become a place to  think out messages before posting on E-Hell. The modest black and white marble version that you bought because it was so cheap may become the repository of you most profound thoughts. 

In a way, notebooks can be like children.  You intend they'll turn out one way but the reality is often something very different. 
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: cwm on September 20, 2013, 02:04:54 PM
Usually I have a mishmash of pens because I've been doing the whole "buy what I can afford" routine for a while, which isn't much. Last year there was a day where about twelve or thirteen vendors of office supplies came through our office and EVERYONE went through. Got pens, highlighters, papers, stickers, all sorts of things. That's where I got a lot of the pens I use now. And after we went we were all told by one of the managers that the vendors were ONLY for those who had purchasing power. Meaning about ten people in the entire building. They had twice as many large pizzas for those who came through. I'm pretty sure the vendors were counting on normal people coming through and speaking up to the people with the purchasing power in favor of what they wanted.

The coolest thing I picked up was a Sharpie Gel Highlighter. I took that one home because EVERYONE wanted one, and I knew mine would be stolen otherwise. It's seriously awesome, it doesn't bleed through the page and is dry to begin with, so it doesn't smear. If you leave it uncapped, all you have to do is rinse it off and it's clean again, and it never really dries out because it's not based on ink. It got me all sorts of geeked out.

And yes, the UniBall I mentioned is the Signo, it's just so well played with that the Signo is gone and the only clue I had left on it was the 207.

The only problem I have with the B2P is that there's no grip on it, so if you do a lot of writing all at once and you're used to a softer grip, you'll have to get another grip to add on to it, but it's otherwise a really awesome pen. I actually take the tip off and play with it when I'm bored and waiting for some sort of computer component to load because I can't keep my hands still. Actually, I disassemble most of my pens on a regular basis, so a pen that's easy to take apart and put back together is a definite plus for me!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: ladyknight1 on September 20, 2013, 02:08:49 PM
I love refillable pens. I have a collection of Lamy pens and fountain pens too.  ;D
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: rose red on September 20, 2013, 02:15:09 PM
I love office supplies.  I, too, have quite a pen collection; everything from Hello Kitty to ones like Cross brand.  Pens are my to go vacation souvenirs.  I love cute or pretty notebooks too.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: BeagleMommy on September 20, 2013, 02:47:39 PM
I journal in spiral-bound, college-ruled notebooks (usually larger ones).  After years of government work I can't use anything but a standard issue medium point black ball-point pen.  My hand just doesn't respond to anything else.  I'm looking for a fountain pen that I like, but haven't found the right one yet.

Last year DH bought me a stunningly beautiful journal covered in hand-tooled leather with cotton fiber paper.  It's so beautiful that I haven't used it yet.  If I use it, I won't have it to use (does that make sense).

I stock up on pretty writing paper when I can find it.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: norrina on September 20, 2013, 02:55:29 PM
I love all things office. I especially like Post-It products. I have notes in varying sizes, flags, tabs... I have two boxes of random Post-It's, notebooks, index cards, pens, highlighters, etc. that I have accumulated over the years. And in the past year I have opened my own law practice, and am having to remind myself that just because an office product is a business expense now, doesn't mean I need it, and if I don't buy it I might actually turn a profit.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: rose red on September 20, 2013, 03:02:13 PM
I journal in spiral-bound, college-ruled notebooks (usually larger ones).  After years of government work I can't use anything but a standard issue medium point black ball-point pen.  My hand just doesn't respond to anything else.  I'm looking for a fountain pen that I like, but haven't found the right one yet.

Last year DH bought me a stunningly beautiful journal covered in hand-tooled leather with cotton fiber paper.  It's so beautiful that I haven't used it yet.  If I use it, I won't have it to use (does that make sense).

I stock up on pretty writing paper when I can find it.

Well, yeah.  You mean to tell me there are people out there who thinks it doesn't make sense? :o ;)

Some things are just so perfect and beautiful you don't want to "taint" it by writing/drawing the wrong thing.  I have several journals with pages ripped out because I no longer liked the content, but it was never the same.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: ladyknight1 on September 20, 2013, 03:13:20 PM
I have an elephant bamboo journal, made from recycled dung. It is too beautiful to use.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: LazyDaisy on September 20, 2013, 03:39:48 PM
I can't explain my obsession with paper, especially those expensive ($1 per sheet) fancy scrapbooking papers found at craft stores like Michael's. I don't even scrapbook and I have a cupboard full of colored, patterned and textured paper squirreled away for some eventual undetermined use. [Sigh] Once upon a time paper manufacturers would give out free paper sample books to graphic designers and printers, and I've kept ALL of them for 15 years. These papers are no longer in production and the sample sizes are never bigger than say 5"x7"-ish. My absolute favorite paper is called Touché (by Fibermark). It feels like...rose petals. Really. I admit I kinda...pet the paper. It's shockingly expensive and I actually got to use it on a project once.

Years ago, in Target I found a ruled index card notebook. The cards were screwed together in the upper left corner (so they could fan out), perforated so I could tear them out if necessary without the whole stack coming apart, had different colored bars on the edge -- like for color coded sections, and it had an attached rubber band closure and a bright green cover. I love that thing, and I don't even know why. I don't use it for recipes or anything. It's mostly empty. I can't find them anywhere -- even on Amazon all I see are spiral bound index card notebooks in white and I'm sad. I don't even know who manufactured it -- I think it may have been a Target brand.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Mel the Redcap on September 20, 2013, 04:38:49 PM
Last year DH bought me a stunningly beautiful journal covered in hand-tooled leather with cotton fiber paper.  It's so beautiful that I haven't used it yet.  If I use it, I won't have it to use (does that make sense).

Well, yeah.  You mean to tell me there are people out there who thinks it doesn't make sense? :o ;)

Some things are just so perfect and beautiful you don't want to "taint" it by writing/drawing the wrong thing.  I have several journals with pages ripped out because I no longer liked the content, but it was never the same.

I got fed up with my own tendency to leave sketchbooks 'pristine' and started off my latest unlined notebook with a random drawing of a flower, just to make it feel used.  ;)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: joraemi on September 20, 2013, 04:44:53 PM
Just stop it.  you *knew* all of us office supply junkies would have to read this thread!

I came by my addiction honestly - I inherited it from my mother.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Adios on September 20, 2013, 06:54:32 PM
I know this is strange but I often think a notebook appeals because it's literally a tabula rasa.

  The cover, the style, the paper all suggest a certain personality but you never know exactly how it will turn out.  A Celtic style may wind up holding recipes.  A Chinese style may become a place to  think out messages before posting on E-Hell. The modest black and white marble version that you bought because it was so cheap may become the repository of you most profound thoughts. 

In a way, notebooks can be like children.  You intend they'll turn out one way but the reality is often something very different.

Thipu1, this is a brilliant insight!  I just read it about 3 times and spent time really thinking about what you said - thank-you.

Okay, I'm going to out myself as a http://www.smythson.com fan.  Their notebooks are really really expensive, but they come in a pale blue box with tissue paper - so you know how special they are.  I only own two, one I got from ebay but the other I saved up for and bought from the website.  I like to open the box, rustle the tissue paper and look at the notebooks - obviously they are too good to write in  ;) .
I dream of coming up with the approx. $700 I'd need to get a monogrammed diary.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: amandaelizabeth on September 20, 2013, 07:02:47 PM
I nearly always write with a fountain pen, so my work jotters need to be a high quality smooth paper.  The only ones i can find are a french school jotter which means that a visit to New Caledonia (our nearest French territory)  is necessary on a regular basis.  What an excellent reason for a holiday.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Tea Drinker on September 20, 2013, 07:06:22 PM
I'm another fan of the G2 pens. They come in several colors I like (I have blue, red, green, black, and purple in my pen cup, along with one mechanical pencil and one goose feather), and they're relatively inexpensive. Not ten for $3 cheap, but not $30/pen either.

I used to like the plain blue Papermate ballpoint pens, which were that cheap, but then I couldn't find them, and when I found some a couple of years ago they seemed to have changed the design or manufacture. I can accept that the barrel is a different color, but the point doesn't flow as smoothly as it used to.

I had a bunch of the black-and-color glitter pens at one point, in a variety of colors, but I barely used them, and they eventually dried out. I threw out four or five when I was packing to move last winter, and haven't replaced them.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 20, 2013, 08:40:20 PM
LazyDaisy, the scrapbooking paper and index card notebook sound awesome! I would probably have to buy the latter if I saw it, too, even though I don't really use index cards very often. Actually, right now I'm using index cards to write my weekly chore list on, then I mark things off as I accomplish them. So far I've been keeping the completed cards, sort of badges of honor I guess. You never know when something is going to be perfect for your need!

Something more decorative and even unique, like the scrapbooking paper, can be difficult to use, though. Sometimes you just have to take the plunge on something special. Homemade holiday cards, maybe with a photo framed by solid paper on a patterned background?

How about... crayons?? I love Crayolas. I was one of those kids who rearranged all the crayons into color groups and then insisted they all had to be put back in the right place. When I was a kid, the box of 64 colors came out and it was wonderful! And hard to find at first. Now the kiddies have boxes of 96 and 120 all over the place. They don't know what we had to suffer, with only 64 different colors! ;) I actually have a 96-count box in my desk drawer right now... I have a couple of coloring books and sometimes I do that to de-stress while watching TV.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on September 21, 2013, 12:14:23 AM
I'm having a hard time finding narrow ruled spiral journals.  I love them because you can open them up flat.  I have a few that are wide ruled and I use them, but I would love a narrow ruled journal.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Thipu1 on September 21, 2013, 09:34:37 AM
I nearly always write with a fountain pen, so my work jotters need to be a high quality smooth paper.  The only ones i can find are a french school jotter which means that a visit to New Caledonia (our nearest French territory)  is necessary on a regular basis.  What an excellent reason for a holiday.

Have you tried Clairefontaine notebooks?  Given the quality of the paper they aren't terribly expensive.  They're also widely available online. 
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Carotte on September 21, 2013, 12:14:12 PM
How about... crayons?? I love Crayolas.

Ahh, crayolas, the smell of my childhood. Which is weird because they don't sell them anymore here. Crayola as a brand is widely available, but no more wax crayons, only some jumbo ones for little kids. That's why I had a friend of my mother bring me a 64c box from the US :).
I never use them, but that wasn't the point anyway :)

Last year I had to order a 10 count box of notebook because they are unavailable in stores, it was the only way to get them, so I first made sure I could sell back a few to friends, I still have 4 or 5 of them unused.
They're Rhodia Dot paper, they're not lined or with a grid but with dots in a faint color every O.5cm, the perfect fit for me who use it for technical sketches but also to write or draw, and at least half the price of Moleskine (who doesn't have dot paper anyway).

As a smaller notebook I use a small Moleskine, the kind with 32 pages and the last 16 are detachable. In goes everything I might need to keep track of for a short period of time, drawing ideas, list...

I came to understand that fountain pens are not as widely available and used everywhere else but in France?
Here we get our first fountain pen when we enter middle school (around 10/11 y/old), that's when you know you're a big kid! (some primary school teacher let you use one unless you have terrible handwriting or smudge it all over).
And maybe 75% of students will use one until the end of their studies.

Speaking of not available, the bane of my existence is that I was in Japan for a couple of months, found great pens ad mechanical pencils and wonderfull office supplies that you just cannot find elsewhere  :-\.
At least in the US you can order from jetpens.com, but the shipping is a bit too much for me in Europe.
Japan seems to also be the only country where they know about 0.3mm 2B pencil leads, which is a shame, a shame I tell you!
 
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: faithlessone on September 21, 2013, 03:52:49 PM
Ugh, I am addicted to office supplies!!!

My secondary school (high school) was a boarding school, and it had a "stationery hut" - this little shed-like room tucked on the edge of campus, run by the terrifying wife of one of the teachers, Mrs M. It contained every stationery item a student could possibly need - pens, pencils, folders, paper, notebooks, erasers, crayons, rubber bands, paperclips, sellotape, even stuff like hole punches and staplers. You could buy anything you liked, and either pay cash or put it on a sort of tab that would get added to your fees at the end of the year. I may or may not have had a lecture from my parents at the end of Y11 about my addiction to pens!

Both my favourite pen and pencil are products that I used to buy at the school stationery hut! My favourite pens are Stabilo point 88 ones. They come in a ridiculous number of colours, and I think I have most of them!! I love fineliners with a crazy passion. They're just perfect for absolutely everything.

My favourite pencils are Zebra 0.5 Mechanical Pencils. They're refillable, which is important to me, and are lovely to use - not too thin, not too thick. I have a stash of about 30, because I found them for crazy cheap on sale, and couldn't resist buying loads.

Lastly, I love shorthand notebooks. So much. They're simple enough that I don't mind ripping pages out, but they can hold a lot of scribblings. ;D
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Julian on September 21, 2013, 07:26:20 PM
I should never, ever be allowed in an Officeworks without a minder...  and it's not just the stationery, but the boxes, organisers, filing stuff, cute shaped paperclips...  argh! 

We're lucky enough to have a fountain pen maker, who is a regular at the markets.  Hand-turned, wood or coloured resin.  They're superb.  He also makes matching ball-point and pencil versions. 

I own both a Chinese and western calligraphy sets.  I have no idea why I bought the Chinese set, but it's gorgeous, with a carve-your-own seal, brush, ink stone etc. 

There is now an old fashioned printing shop that's opened in the nearby small town.  I have drooled through the window but have yet to step inside - it may be expensive. 

Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Mel the Redcap on September 21, 2013, 07:55:30 PM
Speaking of not available, the bane of my existence is that I was in Japan for a couple of months, found great pens ad mechanical pencils and wonderfull office supplies that you just cannot find elsewhere  :-\.
At least in the US you can order from jetpens.com, but the shipping is a bit too much for me in Europe.
Japan seems to also be the only country where they know about 0.3mm 2B pencil leads, which is a shame, a shame I tell you!

I spent a year in Japan as part of my degree course, and it was wonderful! I love grid and dot paper notebooks, and because of the way their writing system works that's most of what you get there. ;D It's one reason I love the Leuchtturm1917 notebooks, they have grid and dot versions of all their sizes.

I've found 0.3mm mechanical pencils and leads here in Australia, but they're rare. I stock up whenever I find a store that has them!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: ladyknight1 on September 21, 2013, 09:10:36 PM
I have a whole set (or two) of the Stabilo markers.

I also love the Twist-erase pencils in 0.5 mm.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on September 21, 2013, 09:53:51 PM
I used to do calligraphy in high school, but I stopped in college.  I still have a hard time walking away from ink and nibs when I see them on sale.  The ironic thing is my actual handwriting is atrocious, but somehow I managed to do beautiful calligraphy
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Thipu1 on September 22, 2013, 09:06:37 AM
I worked with a eminent scholar who had odd ideas about stationery.

He loved to take notes on shirt cardboards. Every time someone bought a new shirt, the presentation would be made and he would be very pleased. 

He also raved about the wonderful quality of the rubber bands used by the USPS.

Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on September 22, 2013, 01:32:04 PM
I love US Government pens.  They are hard to find, but they had a white barrel and came in blue and black.  There was another version that was click pen with a black and silver barrel. 

My mother used to raid the supply closet when I ran out of pens for school
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Chonsil on September 22, 2013, 02:58:25 PM
Used to love stocking up on school supplies and picking pens and paper.

This is a lovely company:
http://www.bureaudirect.co.uk/
Can't necessarily afford the products on a whim, but it's fun to subscribe to their newsletter and get weekly updates with various interesting products available. They also do a stationery hamper that I dream of one day being able to gift to my husband (at £350, it's not exactly going to happen any day soon!)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: ladyknight1 on September 23, 2013, 07:46:24 AM
I love paperclips as well. My favorites are vinyl coated metal and striped!

I found the Pilot V5 Retractables in a multi-color set last night. Snapped them up quick!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 23, 2013, 09:27:31 AM
Used to love stocking up on school supplies and picking pens and paper.

This is a lovely company:
http://www.bureaudirect.co.uk/
Can't necessarily afford the products on a whim, but it's fun to subscribe to their newsletter and get weekly updates with various interesting products available. They also do a stationery hamper that I dream of one day being able to gift to my husband (at £350, it's not exactly going to happen any day soon!)

Yum! A new website to drool over...

Okay, I will confess to the silliest office supply thing I've bought lately. Roaring Spring 77517 Exam Books, wide ruled, 8 sheets/16 pages, 8.5x11in, also known as "blue books" sometimes used in school exams... a package of 50 of them. For, like, $15 from Amazon. I admit, I haven't used one yet. But, I think I will use them when I'm starting a new story, and I don't know if it will get very far. The kind of story I might have started on looseleaf paper. If it fills 16 pages of standard-size paper, it will graduate to the next level of notebook, maybe a smaller but thicker spiral or bound notebook.

I'm very excited about it. I picture these floppy blue books filling up my filing cabinet of "full notebooks" and then making their way to the burn bag after I've typed them. ;D
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 23, 2013, 03:52:47 PM
I went to the Bureau Direct website. I WANT IT ALL! ;D I especially love the Clairefontaine 1951 notebooks. It seems like they might be the size of composition notebooks in the US. And I love the colors of the Pantone notebooks.

For true pen fans, there is the Pen Addicts blog. They are maybe a little hardcore for me, I have my favorites but I think my tastes are too lowbrow for them. ;)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Carotte on September 23, 2013, 05:21:06 PM
I went to the Bureau Direct website. I WANT IT ALL! ;D I especially love the Clairefontaine 1951 notebooks. It seems like they might be the size of composition notebooks in the US. And I love the colors of the Pantone notebooks.

For true pen fans, there is the Pen Addicts blog. They are maybe a little hardcore for me, I have my favorites but I think my tastes are too lowbrow for them. ;)

Oh this is baaaddd, baddd, such a nice selection and only a friend's trip back to France away  (he's in the UK so I could get free shipping and hand delivery :) )

As for the 1951 notebook seems like there's an A4 and an A5 one, I don't know the size of composition notebooks.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 24, 2013, 10:29:01 AM
Here's another one (a US company I think):

http://www.europeanpaper.com (http://www.europeanpaper.com)

Drool...

It's so silly. It's just paper. But I want it all!!!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: LazyDaisy on September 24, 2013, 10:59:12 AM
I love all of the odd (well odd in the US) sizes for notebooks. Just browsing through quickly...they don't even have an 8.5" x 11"
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Kimblee on September 24, 2013, 11:40:45 AM
I have a major stationary addiction.

Fountain pens are my favorite form of writing... too bad the majority of paper available around here bleeds ink right through. :(  I try to find higher quality paper but it seems like ordering online is my only option.

But I collect every fountain pen i can get my hands on, although I think sometimes the cheaper ones write nicer than my expensive ones.

And notebooks... erm, no comment. *nudges box of partially used notebooks shut while whistling* I have blank book syndrome... once my pen touches the paper, the book is "tainted" and imperfect forever.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Chelsealady on September 24, 2013, 01:52:34 PM
I have an unnatural desire for this post it note holder.

 http://www.amazon.com/Pop-up-Dispenser-Includes-Alternating-Colored/dp/B003VNE25M

If you don't want to click, it is a black purse.  A purse!!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 24, 2013, 02:02:09 PM
Here is a paper size chart I thought might be interesting: http://www.dpandi.com/paper/ (http://www.dpandi.com/paper/)

Wikipedia also has some interesting info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size)

A4 is roughly, but not exactly, equivalent to the "standard" US paper size of 8.5 inches x 11 inches. That's the size of spiral notebooks or looseleaf paper we often use in school, for example. A4 is more like 8.3x11.7 inches, or 210x297mm.

A composition book in the US is one of those bound books often with a marbled black-and-white cover which measures about 7.5 inches by 9.5 inches; it often has about 100 sheets (200 pages). B5 is somewhat close to this--6.9x9.8 inches or 176x250mm. A5 is a bit smaller, 5.8x8.3 inches or 149x210mm.

Sometimes I get taken in by notebooks with pretty covers and a low price (online), then I look at the size and realize, "Oh, that's kind of... tiny, actually." I'm not really into the very small notebooks, like the kind reporters in old movies have that fit in the palm of their hand for taking notes. That's maybe 2 inches wide by 3 or 4 inches high--something like an A7 or A8. Though, I do have some little tiny composition books with marbled covers which are about that size, and they are very cute--it's just hard to figure out what to do with them. They aren't very good for writing stories in, for example. In the past I used to always carry one around for writing down story ideas as they came to me, but that hasn't been so necessary in the last few years, for some reason.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: mime on September 24, 2013, 04:32:16 PM
I like the Pilot G2 pens as well. They come in a multi-color pack for a good price at our warehouse club. I'll have to get my hands on the Uniball Signo now.

As an indulgence, I like the TWSBI fountain pen. It is a really great-feeling pen. I use J Herbin inks and change the color every time I refill so I have some variety.

I've learned to do bookbinding so I make my own journals, but I haven't found "the one" when it comes to paper yet. For now I like Neenah Classic Laid because of the texture.

Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: LazyDaisy on September 24, 2013, 05:28:44 PM
so was browsing around just now and saw these...

http://fab.com/product/peeping-notebook-set-ii-413676/?ref=browse&pos=8


I WANT ONE!

edited to add this too: http://fab.com/product/margiela-claustrophobic-jrnl-sm-434353/?ref=browse&pos=28
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 25, 2013, 02:36:05 PM
Another website for pen and paper fans...

http://apenchantforpaper.blogspot.com/ (http://apenchantforpaper.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on September 25, 2013, 04:46:20 PM
my credit card is begging you all to please stop.  I'm pretty sure it's in a corner rocking right now :D
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: dawbs on September 25, 2013, 04:48:46 PM
I used to do calligraphy in high school, but I stopped in college.  I still have a hard time walking away from ink and nibs when I see them on sale.  The ironic thing is my actual handwriting is atrocious, but somehow I managed to do beautiful calligraphy

I'm with you on this--I think that my brain draws a distinction between 'writing' and 'lettering'--they're not the same thing (kinda like how 'drawing' isn't the same as 'biology diagram'--you get in trouble for shading on the latter :)

I'm actually currently 'shopping' for pre-lined calligraphy paper--with ERASABLE lines.  Because my last project took me 3x as much time to 'line' as it did to write!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on September 25, 2013, 07:18:28 PM
I used to do calligraphy in high school, but I stopped in college.  I still have a hard time walking away from ink and nibs when I see them on sale.  The ironic thing is my actual handwriting is atrocious, but somehow I managed to do beautiful calligraphy

I'm with you on this--I think that my brain draws a distinction between 'writing' and 'lettering'--they're not the same thing (kinda like how 'drawing' isn't the same as 'biology diagram'--you get in trouble for shading on the latter :)

I'm actually currently 'shopping' for pre-lined calligraphy paper--with ERASABLE lines.  Because my last project took me 3x as much time to 'line' as it did to write!

ahem...you're not helping ;)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Thipu1 on September 26, 2013, 08:16:56 AM
so was browsing around just now and saw these...

http://fab.com/product/peeping-notebook-set-ii-413676/?ref=browse&pos=8


I WANT ONE!

edited to add this too: http://fab.com/product/margiela-claustrophobic-jrnl-sm-434353/?ref=browse&pos=28

These things are beautiful! However, I think they'd be better seen as art objects than as useful
stationery. 
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Venus193 on September 26, 2013, 09:07:06 AM
I bought some interesting items recently in the Met's gift shop:

(http://www.metoperashop.org/prodimages/352-DEFAULT-m.jpg)

(http://www.metoperashop.org/prodimages/25-DEFAULT-m.jpg)

I also have the business card case:

(http://www.metoperashop.org/prodimages/39-DEFAULT-m.jpg)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 26, 2013, 10:58:12 AM
I bought some interesting items recently in the Met's gift shop:

How elegant!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: LazyDaisy on September 26, 2013, 12:54:47 PM
so was browsing around just now and saw these...

http://fab.com/product/peeping-notebook-set-ii-413676/?ref=browse&pos=8


I WANT ONE!

edited to add this too: http://fab.com/product/margiela-claustrophobic-jrnl-sm-434353/?ref=browse&pos=28

These things are beautiful! However, I think they'd be better seen as art objects than as useful
stationery.
To me the creativity of the notebooks would inspire creative writing or sketching while still being completely useful as notebooks -- there is plenty of space to write. The claustrophobic one would be interesting -- you could separate one page on the right binding, and the next page on the left, to open up a 3-page spread for writing or drawing. I can see how the peeping notebook would probably appeal to children more than adults though. I know they are more expensive than a regular lined notebook from someplace like Target, but not so much that I would gasp at actually using them.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Syfygeek on September 26, 2013, 02:01:40 PM
I have an unnatural desire for this post it note holder.

 http://www.amazon.com/Pop-up-Dispenser-Includes-Alternating-Colored/dp/B003VNE25M

If you don't want to click, it is a black purse.  A purse!!

I have that on my desk! During our recent purge of dead office equipment and fixtures, I carried it around with me flagging things to toss. So handy!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 26, 2013, 02:17:50 PM
I think I could qualify as one of their "Notebook Addicts of the Week":

http://www.notebookstories.com/ (http://www.notebookstories.com/)

 :P

ETA: Another brand I like (I was reminded by the link to the brand's website on the above blog) is C.R. Gibson. Sometimes "Markings by C.R. Gibson." They do pretty good quality journals both bound and spiral, and are reasonably priced--I've found them at Wal-Mart, office supply stores, and Barnes & Noble. Some have the faux leather cover, magnetic closures, fun things like that. Maybe the person who was looking for narrow-ruled spiral journals could check them out--I don't remember the spacing on the journals I have, but it's possible they might work.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on September 26, 2013, 05:03:15 PM
I think I could qualify as one of their "Notebook Addicts of the Week":

http://www.notebookstories.com/ (http://www.notebookstories.com/)

 :P

ETA: Another brand I like (I was reminded by the link to the brand's website on the above blog) is C.R. Gibson. Sometimes "Markings by C.R. Gibson." They do pretty good quality journals both bound and spiral, and are reasonably priced--I've found them at Wal-Mart, office supply stores, and Barnes & Noble. Some have the faux leather cover, magnetic closures, fun things like that. Maybe the person who was looking for narrow-ruled spiral journals could check them out--I don't remember the spacing on the journals I have, but it's possible they might work.

That was me.  I have a couple walmarts near me as well as a B&N. 
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 27, 2013, 09:11:44 AM
^Cool! I hope they work for you. I assume you're looking for a "nice" spiral journal as opposed to, say, a Mead spiralbound notebook like you can get at Wal-Mart for 17 cents during school supply sales. Because those come in narrower college-ruled versions all the time. There are also some brands of nice bound journals that are stitched such that they lay flat(ter)--might take some experimenting to find one that works just right, though. If they don't lay flat for me I just crack 'em... and that's why I can't have nice things. ::)  :P
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: suekel on September 27, 2013, 11:05:06 AM
I've always loved office supplies.  Back to school was always so exciting, with new notebooks, folders, pens etc.  Everything would be pristine, unwritten in - it made it seem like anything was possible that year. 

I also loved buying stationary as a teen, all different kinds.  I still have some that I've had since I was in my mid teens, and I am 47 now.   From  thick paper with bold designs to dainty, super thin sheets with barely visible floral designs, I loved it all. 

As for pens, I am not so concerned with brand, but for me they must be not fine tipped, and most important of all, they must be fat.  I don't like using normal thickness pens, for some reason the rounder ones feel more comfortable in my hand. 

Lastly, are you all ready to be jealous now?  I work for the company that makes Post-It Notes.  Our supply room is an absolute dream of every kind and color Post-It you could want.  My favorite are the 6" by 4" lined note pads, preferably in blue.  We also have all the fun dispensers, themed Post-Its and other accessories available at a considerable discount in our company store, which is just a couple flights of stairs below me.  My actual job has nothing to do with the manufacture or sale of Post-Its, but it sure is a nice fringe benefit.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Venus193 on September 27, 2013, 11:56:29 AM
I'm a roller ball fan and I use more blue than any other color.  It does annoy me, though, that it's often necessary to wait for the ink to dry on things like checks and greeting cards.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on September 27, 2013, 12:33:43 PM
^Cool! I hope they work for you. I assume you're looking for a "nice" spiral journal as opposed to, say, a Mead spiralbound notebook like you can get at Wal-Mart for 17 cents during school supply sales. Because those come in narrower college-ruled versions all the time. There are also some brands of nice bound journals that are stitched such that they lay flat(ter)--might take some experimenting to find one that works just right, though. If they don't lay flat for me I just crack 'em... and that's why I can't have nice things. ::)  :P

My thing is the size.  I like the smaller books for my journals, rather than a full size 8x11 notebook.  I need to learn how to bind books :)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Luci on September 27, 2013, 12:48:34 PM
I also like the filled-out notebooks! The way they are slighty unflat, not really wrinkled. The way my handwriting is different beacause of my moods or level of emergency. The different writing implements used causing variations. Sometimes I just run my hand over the pages for the tactile experience.

I don't write, and the journaling I do is actually notes on the edges of my food diary. It is fun to go back to see the slow progression of weight loss and how well I stuck to my food plan and the meals out, and where I simply failed.

I also loved seeing the mass of notes I took for courses. The hours I spent in class, the differences in abbreviations I used and the handwriting are all interesting and fulfilling to me.

So I bought new notebooks today and a set of pens. And it's this thread's fault.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 27, 2013, 01:51:47 PM
I also like the filled-out notebooks! The way they are slighty unflat, not really wrinkled. The way my handwriting is different beacause of my moods or level of emergency. The different writing implements used causing variations. Sometimes I just run my hand over the pages for the tactile experience.

I don't write, and the journaling I do is actually notes on the edges of my food diary. It is fun to go back to see the slow progression of weight loss and how well I stuck to my food plan and the meals out, and where I simply failed.

I also loved seeing the mass of notes I took for courses. The hours I spent in class, the differences in abbreviations I used and the handwriting are all interesting and fulfilling to me.

So I bought new notebooks today and a set of pens. And it's this thread's fault.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

I blame this thread on some upcoming purchases I'm planning. Between European Paper, JetPens, and My Maido, I've picked out a few things I want and it's just a matter of seeing how badly my restraint fails when I actually sit down to buy something. European Paper appears to have the biggest selection of paper, but I've also noticed they seem to be the most expensive--they overlapped with JetPens on a couple items, and JetPens had them cheaper. But, where My Maido overlapped with JetPens, My Maido was cheaper, but they have the smallest selection overall. Oh trust me, I've made lists and diagrams and so forth already. ;) For JetPens the strength seems to be the ability to buy single pens of lots of different types and colors. I might get 10 individual pens, each different, in my favorite color to see how I like them. I would stick to the cheaper pens so that would probably be roughly $20, is all.

JetPens is also good at bundles of paper. One single notebook might be $8.00, which seems a bit silly to me, but then you can buy a bundle of 10 of those notebooks (all the same color though) for $35.00, which more than halves the cost per notebook. So if you know you like something and want a lot of it (all in the same color though, you can tell this bothers me), that's a pretty good deal.

I really, really want the Clairefontaine 1951 B5 notebooks. I want one in every color. I want two in every color, and I want to stack them in the rainbow like they do on the websites. But, I will start with buying a pack of two in the same color from JetPens. Because you never know. My mom is as obsessed with yarn as I am with notebooks, and we browse yarn sites and drool over things together. ;) There was a yarn that looked really good on the screen and came in many beautiful colors, and with great wisdom and restraint she decided to only buy one skein of it to get a better look. Turns out, it's too thin for her, even though the official "thickness number" looked good. So, just imagine the disappointment if she'd ordered the two dozen colors we wanted, and found it was too thin. :( So with that lesson in mind I am willing to start small, one notebook from each company I like to see if they are really what I want. And, just owning them is not necessarily the end, I really ought to write on them first before investing in more.

Take Black & Red, for example. They have this brand at office supply stores and they look pretty classy. Nice hard covers, spiral or bound. But the paper is a little... slick, is how I would describe it. My gels and roller balls smear more on it, and I don't tend to smear when I write. So after using one of their notebooks I'm going to give the others a pass.

I like the tactile sensation of feeling my written-in notebooks too. :) I think that's why I really prefer composing in a notebook as opposed to on the computer, even though it would be so much more practical to go straight to the computer. I like to flip through the pages, feel the indentation of the handwriting, look at where my handwriting got sloppy and think, "Oh yeah, I was trying to write in the car on the way to..." Sometimes I just go through and look at/feel the notebooks I have, even the ones I haven't used yet, and think, "I'm gonna get you soon!"  :D
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on September 27, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
THere is no such thing as the wrong yarn.  You just have to find a new project. 
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on September 27, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
THere is no such thing as the wrong yarn.  You just have to find a new project.

LOL! True. Well, in this case, with her arthritis, she has trouble working with the thinner yarn, because she likes to make the tightly-knit scarf patterns. So, it wouldn't have been right for her. I'm sure someone else would really love it... Now I can't remember the brand or the site where she got it, though.  :P

The weirdest paper I've written on was this little notebook I got at a conference. They always give us a notebook to encourage us to pay attention and take notes, you know. This one was made of, I think, a combination of stone and recycled plastic. It was... not good. The paper had this weird, plastic-y slickness and it was slightly stretchy, too. The gels and roller balls really smeared on it because ink just couldn't soak into the paper very well. And, because it was stretchy, it sort of... warped as it was written in. It was almost hard to write on the back of a page because it was so deeply indented from the writing on the front. And it smelled weird, too.  :P

Someone mentioned the elephant poo paper--I've seen that around. Usually those journals don't have lines, though, IME--they look like they're more for sketches or small scrapbooks or for people who can write without needing lines. :) I have one really nice notebook someone gave me as a gift, that was handmade in Nepal I think--the pages are super thick, no lines, beautiful multi-colored cover. I'm like, wow, this is so beautiful, and completely not anything I would actually use. I might give it away as a gift, if I can remember who gave it to me so I don't give it back to them... ::)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: GlitterIsMyDrug on October 02, 2013, 06:17:39 PM
I like the tactile sensation of feeling my written-in notebooks too. :) I think that's why I really prefer composing in a notebook as opposed to on the computer, even though it would be so much more practical to go straight to the computer. I like to flip through the pages, feel the indentation of the handwriting, look at where my handwriting got sloppy and think, "Oh yeah, I was trying to write in the car on the way to..." Sometimes I just go through and look at/feel the notebooks I have, even the ones I haven't used yet, and think, "I'm gonna get you soon!"  :D

Yes! YES! YES! YES! YES!

Partner cannot figure this out because I'm pretty tech-savvy person and typically embrace new technology (not the first go-round, but by the third I'm on-board, like the first iPhone, nope, but I love my 4s), but when it's time for me to write, I pull out a spiral notebook and get to work. It's....better. I can't just go straight to computer. I need my notebooks.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Thipu1 on October 02, 2013, 08:15:00 PM
I thoroughly agree. 

There is a sensual aspect to writing on paper that you don't find when writing directly into a computer.  The paper,  the pen and the choreography of writing contribute to the article in a way that's hard to describe.

I know it sounds crazy but something written with a Bic in a marble composition book may feel like tap-dancing. Something written with a good pen in a Clairefontaine may feel like figure-skating.     

The same goes for reading. I still have several books I bought in 1971 when I visited the Soviet Union.  It may be the ink, it may be the paper or it may be the glue used in the binding but they all
 have a distinctive scent.  The scent isn't offensive but it has colored my interpretation of Russian literature ever since.  I can pick up an American edition of 'Anna Karenina' and smell it. 
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 03, 2013, 09:46:33 AM
Yes, exactly! With a good pen and paper, where I don't really have to think about how well either is going work, it's almost like the story writes itself sometimes. I'm easy, I really love the Pilot G2 pens--I love how writing with them is almost, in my mind, like painting or doing calligraphy. I just like looking at the writing.

To me, the blank notebooks are not really about having something to be kept pristine--though I can certainly understand that feeling--for me it's more like, they're the vessels for stories waiting to be written. And that's really exciting for me.

Thanks to this thread, I'm getting some fancy notebooks for the holidays! ;D My mom and I picked out some stuff from both European Paper and JetPens, and I found a couple of good deals on Amazon as well. I got one or two notebooks from several different brands which I'd never used before: Rhodia, Leuchtturm, Maruman, Clairefontaine, Kokuyo, Apica, Kyokuto. And a bunch of individual pens to try. Sorry, don't mean to brag! I never really knew about these brands and sites before this thread, and since my mom and I tend to be obsessive about stuff (you should see all the YARN I'm getting her for Christmas), we tend to go a little wild!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: betty on October 03, 2013, 11:20:37 AM
I love fancy journals and notebooks, but can not buy them. I won't use them: I never seem to have something special enough to write to warrant using such a special notebook.  :-\  And once one is written in, it is never the same.

I do use a ton of basic note pads (letter-size, white, lined, attached at the top). Each project gets its own note pad. Currently I have 13 active note pads on my desk. When a project is done, I tear out the pages and either save them or recycle, and then the note pad goes back on the pile for another project.

My other favorite supply is those plastic envelope/folders with gussets that have a closure (velcro or string-and-button). With the gussets popped out, they fit a note pad plus hold all the random assorted bits of papers, business cards, CDs, and what-have-you that go with a project.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 03, 2013, 12:10:03 PM
My other favorite supply is those plastic envelope/folders with gussets that have a closure (velcro or string-and-button). With the gussets popped out, they fit a note pad plus hold all the random assorted bits of papers, business cards, CDs, and what-have-you that go with a project.

You reminded me, I love folders like what you describe but with multiple pockets. I forget what they're called... accordion files, maybe? The biggest I've ever seen had, I think, 31 pockets (maybe 32), for people who need to file things by the day of the month. Usually they are more like 12 pockets or something. They are pretty expensive, though! I use them for organizing story ideas, or different bits of one large universe (stories here, story ideas there, general notes in this pocket, drawings in that pocket, etc.). I've only ever had the paper/cardboard ones, never the plastic--in the store the plastic ones always feel more flimsy to me, but since the paper ones I use get so beat up, maybe the plastic would actually be more durable over the long haul.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Arila on October 03, 2013, 12:32:52 PM
I thought I was weird that I could spend hours (literally) looking at all the pens/markers/pencils at Staples or Michaels or even the big warehouse electronics store. I love them! So hard to resist buying them all. :)

I'm home! :)

My favorite kind of notebook is medium sized (5"x 7" ish), with hard, leather-covered covers, and an elastic top-to-bottom strap.

I like really fine ink-looking pens that don't sit on top of the paper, but also don't bleed through the paper. It's a really hard balance between the writing implement and the paper and hard to get right.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lady Snowdon on October 03, 2013, 12:49:01 PM
I love love love office supplies!  Especially pens.  I agree with the PP's who like the G2 Rollerball pens - those are great!  Another random pen that I love is, strangely enough, the cheap pens that my workplace supplied.  Basic Staples brand called OptiFlow and I just adore them.  They don't dry out even if you leave the caps off, the ink flows easily, the barrels aren't so big that I can't get a grip on them...they're awesome.  I practically hoarded them at work!

I love notebooks as well, but I buy and use notebooks far less than I do pens.  I'm still searching for the right size and shape, I think. 

This may sound weird, but one of my favorite things about writing vs using a computer is the different sounds that you get with different pens and paper.  For example, if you're using a felt tip pen, it sometimes scratches a little bit against the page.  And if you're using a Bic pen, it sometimes sticks to the page a bit and almost pops off. 
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: ladyknight1 on October 03, 2013, 03:00:20 PM
I love stickers and stamps as well. Don't get me started on notecards.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 03, 2013, 03:30:40 PM
GASP. I forgot about stickers and stamps! ;D I mean stamps like rubber stamps, where you ink them on a pad and then make the image on paper. Sealing wax with a signet ring or something also looks cool, in the movies anyway. ;)

I really like stickers. I have a bunch and I just can't figure out what to use them on. I used to put small ones in the margins of real paper letters I sent to people, or decorate a blank card with them and send it to someone. Maybe use a few to seal an envelope shut. Sometimes I've also cut a few out (still on the wax paper backing) and mailed them to my younger relatives inside a card as a little present. That's always a nice surprise to get when you're a kid.

Okay, but then what to do with the other 90%? :P

My mom is more into stamps than I am, but neither of us are into them enough to really know what to do with them, either. I love looking at the designs and examples but they never come out that crisp and clear when *I* use them, so... A friend of mine had a kind of unusual "theme" for her child's nursery, so she got a couple of stamps that matched it and uses them to decorate the TY notes she sends out in his name (he's 2). Actually she's not very crafty so I think the idea was better in theory than in execution for her, but I think it's still a cute idea, if it's something you're going to use at fairly regular intervals (every birthday and Christmas, for example).
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Venus193 on October 03, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Sealing wax and stamps.... way cool.  How about cocktail napkins?  I have a few packages of ones from Lincoln Center gift shops and can't bring myself to use them:

(http://www.musicroom.fr/images/catalogue/fullsize/AIMG7400.jpg)

(http://rlv.zcache.com/wolfgang_amadeus_mozart_printed_napkins-r01729fdc989246abbf90cfe6a034a507_2cf00_8byvr_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 04, 2013, 09:13:29 AM
What beautiful napkins! I wouldn't want to use those either. How could I let someone dirty them? ;)

My friend found some cute paper napkins that were printed like lined notebook paper, and she used them at an event she was having with a school supplies theme, which included giving away highlighters, post-it notes, etc.. :) So maybe you just need the right event, for it to be worth it.

I also like... hmm, not sure what word I want... but, like, those little cubes of note paper that sit on your desk and you grab one and write a quick note on it. Like scrap paper, but purpose-made. And not sticky. I had a bunch at home of all types--the rainbow spiral, some fancy ones that are quite large with a flip-up cover. Sometimes they come with a pen that goes through a hole in the corner of the paper and keeps them all together. I've been bringing a couple of stacks to work and using them there--sometimes I need something bigger than a post-it note/not sticky, but smaller than my steno pad, that I can easily throw away later. I had a pad an inch thick and I'm getting close to the end of it.

I also keep one on my kitchen counter at home, and write down groceries as I think of them. That one is really quite large--you could easily use it as stationary instead and write a TY note on it or something. And the paper quality is really amazing and thick. It feels slightly wasted just to be used for my groceries and then cut into little squares because the whole grocery list doesn't take a page... but then again, it wasn't being used at all before, so...
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Thipu1 on October 04, 2013, 09:19:39 AM
Oh, the rainbow spirals!  I love those. 

We have daily calendars and use those for grocery lists and such. 
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Kimblee on October 04, 2013, 11:39:30 PM
I just bought a paper making kit! (A little cheap one, like for kids, but its a start.) to make your pulp you tear up old papers, put them in an empty soda bottle and add water, apparently 24-72 hours later (you have to shake it every 12 hours or so, I'm gonna shake mine every time i pass it) you have pulp and can make paper.

All my old notebooks I need to throw away but couldn't bear to? Gonna be my NEW notebook! (That's the plan anyway. ;) )
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: mime on October 05, 2013, 01:47:05 PM
I just bought a paper making kit! (A little cheap one, like for kids, but its a start.) to make your pulp you tear up old papers, put them in an empty soda bottle and add water, apparently 24-72 hours later (you have to shake it every 12 hours or so, I'm gonna shake mine every time i pass it) you have pulp and can make paper.

All my old notebooks I need to throw away but couldn't bear to? Gonna be my NEW notebook! (That's the plan anyway. ;) )

You can speed up the process by putting the paper and water in a blender-- then you're ready to pull sheets in minutes. I have a friend who does colored pencil art, and keeps the shavings every time she sharpens her pencils to use as inclusions in her paper. It makes pretty paper!

Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Julian on October 05, 2013, 06:55:28 PM
There is an odd little shop that opened up in town around 12 months ago, that I have wanted to go into, but avoided, because it's full of high-end stationery.  Well, I went in the other day.

It is set up like an old-fashioned print shop at the rear, the front is full of some of the most fabulous niche products.  Fountain pens, wax seals and wax, pencils, pens, notebooks, labels, book marks...  printed books with full-page glossy reproductions of wallpaper designs from all over the world, gift wrap in amazing designs, batik printed paper, the most gorgeous Japanese prints.  Desk organisers.  Antique filing cabinets.  Old print blocks.  Paper twine in every colour you can imagine.

I walked through and kept my hands in my pockets.  It was like Aladdin's cave of stationery.  Sob!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on October 05, 2013, 07:21:30 PM
*drool*
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Venus193 on October 05, 2013, 09:08:08 PM
Believe it or not, there are also pocket tissues with the music notation on them.

(http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/g69hy.ya6bn/v/vspfiles/photos/565914-2.jpg?1315391964)

But I'd like to have this:

(http://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/5170244/il_fullxfull.368208187.jpg)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: ladyknight1 on October 07, 2013, 06:48:28 PM
We got our passports and they are really pretty, with landmarks on the pages.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: GlitterIsMyDrug on October 08, 2013, 10:46:22 AM
I own those tissues...haven't used them.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Syfygeek on October 08, 2013, 11:04:05 AM
I've always loved office supplies.  Back to school was always so exciting, with new notebooks, folders, pens etc.  Everything would be pristine, unwritten in - it made it seem like anything was possible that year. 

I also loved buying stationary as a teen, all different kinds.  I still have some that I've had since I was in my mid teens, and I am 47 now.   From  thick paper with bold designs to dainty, super thin sheets with barely visible floral designs, I loved it all. 

As for pens, I am not so concerned with brand, but for me they must be not fine tipped, and most important of all, they must be fat.  I don't like using normal thickness pens, for some reason the rounder ones feel more comfortable in my hand. 

Lastly, are you all ready to be jealous now?  I work for the company that makes Post-It Notes.  Our supply room is an absolute dream of every kind and color Post-It you could want.  My favorite are the 6" by 4" lined note pads, preferably in blue.  We also have all the fun dispensers, themed Post-Its and other accessories available at a considerable discount in our company store, which is just a couple flights of stairs below me.  My actual job has nothing to do with the manufacture or sale of Post-Its, but it sure is a nice fringe benefit.

Yep, jealous. I want to shop at your company store!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 10, 2013, 10:12:43 AM
Awesome ideas! The high-end stationary store sounds so cool. I love looking at stores like that, but with everything being so expensive, I never end up buying anything. Considering I'm going to write in the notebooks, and enjoy that, but eventually throw them away, I just don't feel like I ought to spend $20+ on just one. For those who, say, actively journal and keep all the books, I think it would be pretty cool.

There's a chain called Papyrus that I see sometimes--there's one in this mall that I go to about once a year. When I first started going, maybe ten years ago, they had a lot more notebooks, but lately it seems like they're almost entirely boxes of cards, like for thank you cards or Christmas cards. And they have a big corner where you can order custom invitations, like for a wedding. It seems like their business is going in that direction now, which is cool for people who need those, but not really what I'm looking for.

Making paper and books is fun, too! A friend of mine was into that for a while. She made me a cute little book that she stitched together herself, which I still use to make odd notes in.

This week I filled up a bound journal I was writing in, an older one about 8" x 5" with a blue fuzzy cover. I have continued the story in a plain old Mead Five Star hardbound composition book--not very snazzy, but it has 100 pages/200 sheets and I thought the story deserved this after filling three smaller notebooks. I finished off three Uniball Jetstream pens in a row--I think they're ballpoints, but very smooth. Two were the new BLX types and I have to take back what I said before, the "black-infused blue" ink was a lovely dark turquoise and the "black-infused purple" ink was, well, purple. They also wrote for a good long time and, as I said, were quite smooth for ballpoints. However, I wasn't completely satisfied with them, as they started to get gummy at the tips; and from about halfway through their use, the ink began to come out inconsistently, such that the writing would be light, then dark, then light, then dark, like it was about to run out any second. I don't like thinking more about the pen than the writing, you know?

Now I'm using a ballpoint I got from a work conference, unknown make. It has a heavy metal barrel, which is a little more weighty than I'd like, but I'm sure it will be fine for the time being.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Mel the Redcap on October 11, 2013, 05:16:44 AM
http://pepespaperie.com.au

This is where I spend a LOT of my drooling-over-stationery time. >:D We got our wedding invitations done there, and I've bought an awful lot of pretty pretty notebooks from them...
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 11, 2013, 09:12:01 AM
http://pepespaperie.com.au

This is where I spend a LOT of my drooling-over-stationery time. >:D We got our wedding invitations done there, and I've bought an awful lot of pretty pretty notebooks from them...

NOOOOOOOO!!!! Okay, the only thing that saves me is that it's based in Australia, and although I couldn't quickly find their shipping policy, I'm going to assume the cost would be astronomical to send things to me in the US. BTW, I placed an order with JetPens last night for assorted little memo books and random pens--TO GIVE TO OTHERS--for Christmas.

This place, on the other hand, is US-based...

http://katespaperie.com/ (http://katespaperie.com/)

ETA:

http://www.jennibick.com/ (http://www.jennibick.com/)

http://www.lovenotebooks.com/ (http://www.lovenotebooks.com/)

You're welcome. ;)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on October 11, 2013, 09:40:27 AM
http://pepespaperie.com.au

This is where I spend a LOT of my drooling-over-stationery time. >:D We got our wedding invitations done there, and I've bought an awful lot of pretty pretty notebooks from them...

NOOOOOOOO!!!! Okay, the only thing that saves me is that it's based in Australia, and although I couldn't quickly find their shipping policy, I'm going to assume the cost would be astronomical to send things to me in the US. BTW, I placed an order with JetPens last night for assorted little memo books and random pens--TO GIVE TO OTHERS--for Christmas.

This place, on the other hand, is US-based...

http://katespaperie.com/ (http://katespaperie.com/)

ETA:

http://www.jennibick.com/ (http://www.jennibick.com/)

http://www.lovenotebooks.com/ (http://www.lovenotebooks.com/)

You're welcome. ;)

YOU ARE EVIL
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 11, 2013, 09:51:40 AM
http://pepespaperie.com.au

This is where I spend a LOT of my drooling-over-stationery time. >:D We got our wedding invitations done there, and I've bought an awful lot of pretty pretty notebooks from them...

NOOOOOOOO!!!! Okay, the only thing that saves me is that it's based in Australia, and although I couldn't quickly find their shipping policy, I'm going to assume the cost would be astronomical to send things to me in the US. BTW, I placed an order with JetPens last night for assorted little memo books and random pens--TO GIVE TO OTHERS--for Christmas.

This place, on the other hand, is US-based...

http://katespaperie.com/ (http://katespaperie.com/)

ETA:

http://www.jennibick.com/ (http://www.jennibick.com/)

http://www.lovenotebooks.com/ (http://www.lovenotebooks.com/)

You're welcome. ;)

YOU ARE EVIL

I KNOW! I'm evil to myself. I want those Paperthinks notebooks, SOLELY because they come in so many colors and I want to stack/line them up in a rainbow like they are in the pictures. Lovenotebooks has the biggest selection of products from this line, I think, but from what I could see all three sites have about the same prices. Amazon had a few when I searched there also.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 14, 2013, 10:07:52 AM
I am such a bad person. I am enabled by the people around me, though. ;D I went to Office Max this weekend and picked up a few new notebooks--some pretty composition books, just the standard sort, but also a couple of nice journals by C.R. Gibson that were on sale. You never know what you will find on the clearance rack!

I also saw that the company Tul (which sometimes has an accent mark over the U--I think it's pronounced tool) has branched out into pens. I bought some of their highlighters for work a couple years ago and they're still liquid and very nice. At Office Max I saw they had both gel pens and rollerball pens, so I picked up a four-pack of the gels in blue/green/red/purple. I haven't tried them yet because I am committed to using up the plain black ballpoint I'm using right now, which came from a conference... but soon!

Does anyone else have to use up a pen before going on to the next one? I usually do, though occasionally I get tired of some pen that just lasts forever and I chuck it back in my pen can and get a new one. Or, if I actively don't like a pen, I'll get rid of it rather than use it up--life is too short to write with bad pens! ;D
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: ladyknight1 on October 14, 2013, 10:29:59 AM
No, I immediately try pens out so I know if they go in the desk cup (where are the carpy ones end up) or in my personal stash. I use them interchangeably as I go along.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Carotte on October 14, 2013, 10:48:03 AM

Does anyone else have to use up a pen before going on to the next one? I usually do, though occasionally I get tired of some pen that just lasts forever and I chuck it back in my pen can and get a new one. Or, if I actively don't like a pen, I'll get rid of it rather than use it up--life is too short to write with bad pens! ;D

Years ago (around 4 or 5 years) I bought a 10 pack of regular Bic ballpoint pens, stuck a little label with numbers 1 through 10 and released them into the "wild", aka, my bedroom at my then parents' place.
I've moved in with my SO now, but if I were to really look for them in my old bedroom (aka the new storage space  ::)) I'd probably only find 5 or 6 of them, not one got used up until empty, so I'd hate to have to wait for a pen to be empty!
Funny thing with this "catch and release" was that the label was quite unique, no way anyone would have the same, I'm still boggled at how my dentist came to use one of them. I had probably lost it in her waiting room, but never asked her what number was on it so I would know  :P, I didn't want to seem like I was asking for a simple black pen back.

I still have pencils and pens and markers from that time when I was in art school, and most still have their electrical tape wound around that I used to mark my stuff. It does come in handy when everyone pretty much have the same stuff and some are not as civilised as you'd wish: I still remember at the end of a class, a classmate saying "oh, here's my not-so-cheap pen!" and me telling him something along the lines off "pull the other one, it also has my name on it"  ::) >:(
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Venus193 on October 14, 2013, 10:55:11 AM
Just bought this in Staples the other day:

(http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/Staples/s0768780_sc7?$splssku$)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Luci on October 14, 2013, 11:40:06 AM
I used to do the "catch and release" thing, too. When we signed credit slips instead of using the electronic pads, I would use my own pen that I was tired of and forget it.  :)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 14, 2013, 12:10:08 PM
What an awesome tape dispenser!! I kind of want to get that for work. My boss is very anti-alcoholic beverages so I'm sure she would find a way to indirectly ask me to remove it. ;)

At Office Max this weekend I also picked up a pencil cup on clearance. It is actually square, divided into four sections, and made of that metal mesh stuff. In purple. I was using an old mug on my counter to corral my random, grocery list-making pens, but now I can use this!

Also... did you know Pantone, the color people, make journals? There's only three on their website, though--one pink, one orange, and one with many squares of color on it. What a missed opportunity! If they had a rainbow of them I would be sorely tempted to get several...
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: ladyknight1 on October 14, 2013, 04:52:10 PM
This isn't really an office supply, but we now have a Container Store near us. I bought an awesome waterproof file box, pretty colored hanging file folders, angled Post-it tabs for the folders and a desk organizer. It is so pretty!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 14, 2013, 05:59:03 PM
This isn't really an office supply, but we now have a Container Store near us. I bought an awesome waterproof file box, pretty colored hanging file folders, angled Post-it tabs for the folders and a desk organizer. It is so pretty!

Oh, I think it counts! :) That reminds me, at Office Max I saw some decorated file folders--instead of solid colors they had flower patterns on them. So pretty! But really something I have no potential use for--I am already committed to throwing out excess folders as they get beat up. I have literally been hanging on to some for twenty years. Something's got to go!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Carotte on October 15, 2013, 05:53:43 AM
Oh, I think it counts! :) That reminds me, at Office Max I saw some decorated file folders--instead of solid colors they had flower patterns on them. So pretty! But really something I have no potential use for--I am already committed to throwing out excess folders as they get beat up. I have literally been hanging on to some for twenty years. Something's got to go!

I was a bit irrationally cross with my SO when he came back from the other side of the world with the folder I had reluctantly loaned him all beaten-up.
It's nothing special, a very basic cardboard folder, but it's been going strong since at least 1996 (the only date on it). It probably wasn't used all throughout that time but still  :(
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 15, 2013, 09:10:27 AM
Well, *I* don't find it irrational! ;D

Yesterday I checked out the Piccadilly website. This brand has been called "the poor man's Moleskine" and indeed they have a couple lines of notebooks that look rather like Moleskines. I found them at a discount book store the other day and picked some up--haven't tried them yet, but I'm sure they'll be fine for my purposes, and so colorful! :)

But--anyone who hangs around the Barnes & Noble bargain rack perusing their discount notebooks (usually spiral, hard cover, about 5"x7" although they also have larger 8.5"x11" ones) will recognize the patterns of their other notebooks! :) They have several dozen patterns/pictures and they use these on spiral and bound notebooks of all sizes, even the nice ones with magnetic closures. Then I suppose retailers buy whatever they think will appeal to their customers. I've been getting the bargain rack B&N notebooks for years and I really like them--I think the paper quality is rather good, they're a substantial size (both height/width and page number), and a great price (the 5"x7" ones are often in the $5.99 range I think). So I'm pleased to discover they belong to a brand I've actually heard of.

Piccadilly is allegedly sold in a couple other chains near me besides B&N, so I'm going to go hunting soon and see what I find. ;)
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: ladyknight1 on October 15, 2013, 11:16:35 AM
Piccadilly - I have three of the thin stitch-bound notebooks in black and one blue thick notebook with an elastic strap. The paper is a soft ivory, so very different from most notebooks I have.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 16, 2013, 01:35:00 PM
Oh the excitement!!! A website called Hyatt's has many Pantone notebooks available. :D

http://www.hyatts.com/pantone/pantone-universe-notebooks-2.5101 (http://www.hyatts.com/pantone/pantone-universe-notebooks-2.5101)

Some of them need to come home with me.

I will say, though, that I bought what they call the "artist and writers notebook" on Amazon, and while it is beautiful, it is unlined. I prefer lines. I will try to write in it anyway. It has two to three different Pantone color chips on the lower outside corner of each page, and sometimes whole pages are a solid color or shades of a color. I look forward to writing in it, but they did not really make it clear it was unlined...
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on October 16, 2013, 01:50:38 PM
As if I needed this website right now!  They are sooo sooo pretty though
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 16, 2013, 01:57:05 PM
Mwhahaha! They have other notebooks, too. There's a huge Rhodia selection, Decomposition notebooks, Leuchtturm, Moleskine, a few others. It was a bit hard to get there--I clicked the big red Art button, then on the menu on the left if you hover over "Papers" submenus will pop up, some with brand names and some with more general categories. I had to look carefully at the descriptions to see whether something was lined or not.

I may make an account there. I hope they have a wish list function, that makes it so much easier for me to play around and eventually build up to ordering something...
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: PastryGoddess on October 16, 2013, 04:58:56 PM
lalalalalalalalalalalalalala....I can't hear yoooooooooooou

must......not......look...any...more
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Julian on October 16, 2013, 06:12:04 PM
http://www.flywheel.net.au/ (http://www.flywheel.net.au/)

That shop in Nearby Town I mentioned.

Sorry, Pastry Goddess!
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: GLaDOS on October 16, 2013, 07:23:50 PM
I love notebooks and pens! I really love using cloth-bound, 40-sheet B5 notebooks for classes. I can fill them up in a semester, and having the cloth binding means extra incentive to make every class so I don' t have missing pages or out of order notes :P

I also keep a dotted Rhodia webbie journal, and my pride and joy is a Pilot Vanishing Point with raden that looks like the night sky. It was a birthday present from my parents.

JetPens is so hard to resist, but there's also TokyoPenShop.com (http://TokyoPenShop.com) which offers a few larger sizes, like .7 and 1.0. I love the Pilot Juice pens for every day stuff at work. They're really cheap, last forever, and have gorgeous, bright, pigmented colors. And my other current favorite is the Signo RT1 UMN-155. Thin black lines that are super smooth.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 16, 2013, 07:44:37 PM
Awesome, more websites to drool over! ;D
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: mrs_deb on October 17, 2013, 04:48:53 PM
I have a weakness for shiny/glittery/sparkly coloured pens and binder clips.  Kind of like a magpie.  I take minutes for a group; one of the members has a sparkly bright green pen and he gestures with it when he talks.  I have a hard time concentrating...one of these days he's going to put it down and walk away and HA HA!  IT WILL BE MINE!

Um, sorry.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: LazyDaisy on October 17, 2013, 06:31:21 PM
A lady in my department is responsible for ordering promotional items to give away at faires and other events. She ordered thousands of pens with our university logo on them -- simple and boring enough -- but she didn't realize that she'd ordered pens that are about 2x's the normal size for a ballpoint pen. The barrel is about an inch across at the widest point and it's about 7.25 inches long. They're GIANT pens, and I love them. oooooo big pens. She was so upset when she first received them but she orders them on purpose now. Promotional items are usually notorious cheaply made and break easily but these are surprisingly smooth and comfortable. I think they're a hit at faires too, but I only care about having my own stash of big giant pens.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 18, 2013, 10:19:44 AM
I empathize with both of you! When I see awesome pens or notebooks I feel like this primal part of my lizard brain is starting to take control and perhaps override my common sense and politeness.  :-\ I am not alone in this, although compared to the people I see at my work conferences every year, I think I do a much better job controlling myself! I at least stand there and talk to the vendors about their products first, and then ask if I can have one of these and one of those if they don't offer, and I say thank you. Basic kindergarten manners.

I remember once I was talking to a vendor and this other person came along and swept all the goodies on the vendor's little table into their bag, and walked off--candy, pens, highlighters, post-it notes. It was so fast there wasn't even time to say anything. Obviously they had a lot of experience at this! The vendor and I just stared at them, then at each other. Okay, so the vendor had more boxes of stuff under the table, but honestly! You'd think people needed to supply their whole office, or feed their entire household, from just the free stuff they scavenged at conferences. ::)

In other news, I went to Barnes & Noble last night. I knew it would be dangerous going in. I was prepared to face the Piccadilly notebooks with the prints on them, as I already own several, but I forgot about their Moleskine-esque notebooks. So... four of them came home with me. I got an "essential" notebook in large, which was roughly 8.5"x11" (probably a bit smaller) with a flexible cover; an "essential" medium notebook, which had a hardcover and was maybe 5"x7"; a faux-leather notebook about the same size (only a dollar more for the fake leather!); and a three-pack of softcover notebooks, maybe 4"x6" in red, tan, and black. The first three notebooks I got were the light teal color. They only had that and black--if they'd had more colors I probably would've bought them, too.

B&N has so many notebooks! They also sell actual Moleskine, quite a variety of them; plus they had a Paris and London-themed display of items that included some Cavallini notebooks. And they had little four-packs of notebooks by Jonathan Adler--just small enough that I could force myself to put them back down. And they were kind of paisley too, I really dislike paisley. Plus all their really nice notebooks for $15 and up, which my store artfully arranges by color family.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: rose red on October 18, 2013, 12:24:25 PM
LazyDaisy's story about the fat office pens remind me of a story that can also go into the SS and Moocher threads.  When I started in a brand new created department, the downtown office sent us fat comfortable pen and pencil sets with the department logo.  There were only enough for each member of the department to get one set, and they were highly coveted.  We left them on top of our desks because our room was locked at night.  Well, one weekend there was a meeting of the higher ups in that room.  On Monday, all our pens were gone >:(.  Maybe they weren't stolen on purpose, but who goes to a meeting without pen and paper?  And all of them were taken (about 7).  Those pens were so awesome and I still miss mine.

I love office supplies and that's my sad story.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 21, 2013, 02:56:20 PM
rose red, that is a terrible story! It is really poor form for the higher-up to mooch office supplies from their underlings. Spend a little money and get your own! :(

Reporting back on the Tul fine-point gel pens I bought the other day. I have almost used up the purple one. Overall, it's okay, nothing to complain about really, but I probably wouldn't bother buying them again. The point is very fine; it doesn't bleed/show through the paper, even though I'm just using a Mead 5 Star composition book; it doesn't write quite as smoothly as, say, a Pilot G2. I like that I can take the pen apart and see how much ink is left. I always seem to do that first thing with pens! My mom says I would always undress baby dolls right away, too... I guess I want to see what I'm getting! ;D

I passed the halfway point in the composition book last night, BTW. Always an accomplishment!

Also, in the tiny Office/School Supply section at Meijer, I found Leuchtturm1917 notebooks in two different sizes and four different colors, on clearance. The larger ones were 11.49--I see them online for more like $15+.
Title: Re: Pens, Paper, Office Supplies
Post by: Lynn2000 on October 23, 2013, 03:53:24 PM
Finished off the purple Tul 0.5mm gel pen. It was, as I mentioned, alright and I'll use the other three I got, but I probably won't buy it again. It did one more annoying thing: towards the end it started to get subtly fainter/thinner, yet kept writing for many pages--I could look at my most recent page and flip back ten to see that the ink was notably darker earlier. That really irritates me. I want a pen that will write consistently and then just die--at most the fade-out should only be a few lines. Of course I hang on to pens until I've used every molecule of ink in the barrel--a less obsessive person could probably chuck them as soon as they started to suspect it was running out! :)

Now I'm using a pen I got from JetPens. It's a Yasutomo Y&C Gel Stylist pen, 0.5mm, in violet. Very fine tip, slightly more pinkish color compared to the Tul purple, and bit wetter. Still works fine on the plain ol' Mead Five Star paper, though you can see it through the paper a slight bit more. So far I like it better because it writes more smoothly. I like to hold the pen close to the tip, though, and on this pen there's these hard plastic ridges right above the tip--the official finger grip starts beyond that. So I don't know how it will do for long-term use. I'm kind of laughing at myself because I was all excited about using this gel pen from JetPens, from Japan I guess, like it would be some kind of revolutionary writing tool, and it's... a purple gel ink pen. ::) Perfectly fine so far, no shifting of the heavens, though. Well, when I get home tonight I'll see if it's written a novel for me while I've been at work today, LOL!