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Title: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: flickan on October 20, 2013, 05:20:00 PM
I'm asking this because we recently heard from an acquaintance who is fundraising for the expense of burying a relative.  Only friends are being solicited, none of them really know the relative, no one knows what the immediate family thinks of this, and the kicker is that she (the relative in question) is still alive but will probably pass soon.  It's a very sad situation and one we find very bizarre.

I've heard of collections being taken up for new homes, career changes, weddings, adoptions, etc but this seems to me so far outside the realm of bad taste that I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't heard it myself.

So what have you been asked to contribute to that you just couldn't believe?
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Wulfie on October 20, 2013, 05:26:10 PM
We have had panhandlers soliciting for Pot and Beer.  I had one throw a fit because I gave money to a charity group on the same corner and would not give him any. He kept following me screaming about how I needed to smoke a joint and loosen up.  I had to call the cops to get him to leave me alone.

Not sure about other areas but in Seattle I have seen about 10-15 people with variations on the same signs.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Slartibartfast on October 20, 2013, 06:25:31 PM
One of my high school peers sent out letters to a bunch of people in town (including my parents) to raise money for a semester in Australia.  Not doing service work or anything, just "I want to take a semester to travel around and learn stuff."  He didn't say so in the letter, but his parents were mostly paying for the trip - he was raising beer money.

My parents declined to donate, but IIRC he did go for a semester and partied a lot.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Katana_Geldar on October 20, 2013, 06:43:29 PM
Hat may have been unnecessary, if you're friendly enough here people will buy you beer.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: MOM21SON on October 20, 2013, 07:06:26 PM
Well, I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but I currently have a coworker that is currently asking people to borrow 11 grand from their 401K to loan him.

Of course he will make the payments. ::)
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: flickan on October 20, 2013, 07:09:23 PM
Well, I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but I currently have a coworker that is currently asking people to borrow 11 grand from their 401K to loan him.

Of course he will make the payments. ::)

11 grand!??  Is there even an explanation for that amount??
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: MOM21SON on October 20, 2013, 07:25:50 PM
Well, I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but I currently have a coworker that is currently asking people to borrow 11 grand from their 401K to loan him.

Of course he will make the payments. ::)

11 grand!??  Is there even an explanation for that amount??

Why sure there is.  See he borrowed from his and still owes 11 grand.  But his payments are getting him further in debt because he can't afford the payments.  So he wants to pay off his loan.  Why people are not falling over taking out loans to help him is beyond me.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Promise on October 20, 2013, 08:26:11 PM
Last summer a mom and her daughter knocked on my door asking me for money to help support her daughter in a beauty pageant. What???? And as I looked across the street, there was her dad and brother asking my neighbor for the same thing and showing her photo.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: whiterose on October 20, 2013, 08:46:02 PM
To help pay for someone's schooling for her to pursue a career in something related to the entertainment industry (specific details would be revealing too much info).

This was somebody who was an associational friend. Not my BFF or a close friend. She was not a stranger/online friend/friend of a friend- she was someone I had met IRL at an activity for a shared interest. We have several mutual friends in common. I have interacted with her IRL a few times at a few events for the interest we share- however, I have not seen her in a few years. We do not live in the same city. I do not have her current contact information (other than what is on her FB profile), nor do I know if she still has mine (has not changed). In conclusion, this is not somebody I interact with often- she is not very active in any of the social networking sites we belong to.

I had helped her before a few years earlier- I sent her a gift card to a store where they sell food/underwear/toiletries/medications- when she was in a less than optimal situation.

Had she been asking for help due to a medical emergency, I would have helped. Had she been going to school to study nursing or another high-demand career, I may have helped.

Also, I was asked specifically. She did not just put a general notice on FB. She did approach me specifically and individually. I do not know if she had assumed that because I sent her that kind of help for an emergency a few years earlier, I may have been one of her financially better off friends.

I declined.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Library Dragon on October 20, 2013, 08:54:52 PM
Acquaintances from church sent out an email asking for contributions to bring over 4 children from eastern European nation for a two week Christmas trip.  These are not orphans or kids who will get a better life out of the trip other than a trip to the USA.  Just 4 kids from a family they met on a trip to the country.  The amount sought? $9,000. 

Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: doodlemor on October 20, 2013, 09:11:00 PM
We knew of some people who were soliciting funds for their daughter and some others to go to London, UK, during spring break as missionaries.  They stated that [deity] had told them to go and save people.  We declined to contribute. 

The things that people claim that [deity] has told them to do always amaze me.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: mbbored on October 20, 2013, 09:31:13 PM
We knew of some people who were soliciting funds for their daughter and some others to go to London, UK, during spring break as missionaries.  They stated that [deity] had told them to go and save people.  We declined to contribute. 

The things that people claim that [deity] has told them to do always amaze me.

My cousins, who are members of the orange religion, routinely ask my mother, siblings, and I, who are members of the purple religion, to support them in mission trips to purple-ish countries, in order to convert the purple people to orange-ism.

They've been doing this for almost 20 years and are still consistently amazed that we say no.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Promise on October 20, 2013, 09:32:39 PM
We knew of some people who were soliciting funds for their daughter and some others to go to London, UK, during spring break as missionaries.  They stated that [deity] had told them to go and save people.  We declined to contribute. 

The things that people claim that [deity] has told them to do always amaze me.

While claiming God tells you to do something probably should have been left out, asking people in your church or close family to support you on a mission trip is quite common. It's ok to decline. But most missionaries have to raise support for long term missions as well. An example is establishing a non-profit ministry in another country and moving there to work with people.  They do this by going to different churches and sharing their future work. Every few years they come back home and go back to the supporting churches to report back on the work.

The reason people ask for money from others for short term trips is to get an idea how hard and humbling it is to ask others to support you if you believe missions work is your calling. My guess is that there was a specific work project they would do there. In my past, I did building projects (drywall, painting, etc.), children's ministry such as puppetry and storytelling, prayer walks - praying for people in different areas, as well as a day or two getting to know the culture.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: doodlemor on October 20, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
We knew of some people who were soliciting funds for their daughter and some others to go to London, UK, during spring break as missionaries.  They stated that [deity] had told them to go and save people.  We declined to contribute. 

The things that people claim that [deity] has told them to do always amaze me.

While claiming God tells you to do something probably should have been left out, asking people in your church or close family to support you on a mission trip is quite common. It's ok to decline. But most missionaries have to raise support for long term missions as well. An example is establishing a non-profit ministry in another country and moving there to work with people.  They do this by going to different churches and sharing their future work. Every few years they come back home and go back to the supporting churches to report back on the work.

The reason people ask for money from others for short term trips is to get an idea how hard and humbling it is to ask others to support you if you believe missions work is your calling. My guess is that there was a specific work project they would do there. In my past, I did building projects (drywall, painting, etc.), children's ministry such as puppetry and storytelling, prayer walks - praying for people in different areas, as well as a day or two getting to know the culture.

Please realize that I would never wish to detract from the valiant efforts and work of missionaries who do kind things for people, often in 3rd world countries.  Our church supports several people who bravely left this peaceful area and went to places without any conveniences to work among the poor.  I have the greatest admiration for missionaries, and you are among them, Promise.

The individuals who caused my ire did not have a definite plan of action, or if they did it was kept a secret.  They were also of high school age, not adults.  The soliciting was very hard sell and demanding, not like the "sharing" mentioned by you.  Their parents also were asking for funds.  Whether the parents were planning to go along to London I don't remember, but the $$$$ was not raised and they spent spring break somewhere else.

Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: *inviteseller on October 20, 2013, 11:07:21 PM
So, they just wanted to go on Spring Break, but they thought people would give more if they thought they were doing something worthwhile?  That is actually quite despicable because I know 2 girls who would go to 3rd world countries for a month every summer and build schools.  I donated to them..one time it was any old sporting equipment for them to take to the kids (got my DD;s soccer team involved in that and it felt good to see these little girls donating their outgrown shows and their older balls to underprivileged kids), sometimes it was toiletry items to stock up on to take to the villagers. 


I have a relative who, when he got his (still married) gf pregnant could not get on the phone quick enough to spread the good news that they didn't have any money and could we help them and her kids (3 or 4 of them) out in their time of need?  Funny how we all declined that opportunity.  And he is now mad that we are not jumping for joy that 4 months after the birth of that baby, the 2 jobless wonders have found out she is pregnant again.  He actually made a post about how no one helps them and we just all judge them unfairly.   :o
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: JeanFromBNA on October 20, 2013, 11:14:24 PM
I'm asking this because we recently heard from an acquaintance who is fundraising for the expense of burying a relative.  Only friends are being solicited, none of them really know the relative, no one knows what the immediate family thinks of this, and the kicker is that she (the relative in question) is still alive but will probably pass soon.  It's a very sad situation and one we find very bizarre.

I've heard of collections being taken up for new homes, career changes, weddings, adoptions, etc but this seems to me so far outside the realm of bad taste that I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't heard it myself.

So what havse you been asked to contribute to that you just couldn't believe?
I've solicited funds for a funeral and burial before.  Not everyone is prepared for final expenses or has family that can pay.  Why do you find this in "bad taste?" 
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Clareish on October 20, 2013, 11:29:54 PM
I'm asking this because we recently heard from an acquaintance who is fundraising for the expense of burying a relative.  Only friends are being solicited, none of them really know the relative, no one knows what the immediate family thinks of this, and the kicker is that she (the relative in question) is still alive but will probably pass soon.  It's a very sad situation and one we find very bizarre.

I've heard of collections being taken up for new homes, career changes, weddings, adoptions, etc but this seems to me so far outside the realm of bad taste that I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't heard it myself.

So what havse you been asked to contribute to that you just couldn't believe?
I've solicited funds for a funeral and burial before.  Not everyone is prepared for final expenses or has family that can pay.  Why do you find this in "bad taste?"

I'm unclear as to what part of someone else's lack of planning means a solicitation attempt, but here is what I found off-putting in the OP's story.

1. This is an acquaintance,
2. asking for money for a relative that the friends had not met,
3. they don't know what the immediate family thinks (which would make me suspicious that they don't know funds are being solicited, and might mean some accountability for that money. Is it actually going where the acquaintance says it is? is a top question here
4. The kicker: the person in question is still very much alive.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: flickan on October 21, 2013, 05:49:17 AM
I'm asking this because we recently heard from an acquaintance who is fundraising for the expense of burying a relative.  Only friends are being solicited, none of them really know the relative, no one knows what the immediate family thinks of this, and the kicker is that she (the relative in question) is still alive but will probably pass soon.  It's a very sad situation and one we find very bizarre.

I've heard of collections being taken up for new homes, career changes, weddings, adoptions, etc but this seems to me so far outside the realm of bad taste that I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't heard it myself.

So what havse you been asked to contribute to that you just couldn't believe?
I've solicited funds for a funeral and burial before.  Not everyone is prepared for final expenses or has family that can pay.  Why do you find this in "bad taste?"

For me there are a few things that put this over the line of bad taste.  Although acquaintance in question is not well off financially we are being asked to assume that there is not a single person in the family who can contribute for a funeral.  Frankly, we don't know anything about the family.  I definitely don't presume to know the financial situation of others but this is literally the only person in this family that we know and from what we've heard this is just one person asking friends from all over for the money.

This is not something who is a member of our community or who lives even close, we have never met the relative, had never before heard of the relative until it came up.  (for the record, I do not doubt the existence of the relative or the intent of the asking.)

The amounts being sought is high, as it would be for the expense of a burial in a cemetery with a headstone and a casket with a full viewing and all the works.  But while all people are entitled to be given respect in death I balk at the idea that people are entitled to this kind of funeral with all the trimmings.  There are less expensive options available for the family.  If no one in the family can front the money for a funeral with the works I don't understand why friends and casual acquaintances are being asked to do so informally by one member of the family.

Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Sharnita on October 21, 2013, 07:16:06 AM
I don't know that burial in a cemetary is that muvh of a "tri,ming", nor does some sort of headstone serm like a huge luxury.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: squashedfrog on October 21, 2013, 07:32:20 AM
We knew of some people who were soliciting funds for their daughter and some others to go to London, UK, during spring break as missionaries.  They stated that [deity] had told them to go and save people.  We declined to contribute. 

The things that people claim that [deity] has told them to do always amaze me.

Sorry am I missing something?  London?  They want to go to London, one of the most affluent and culturally diverse tourist cities in the world, for missionary reasons?   Did diety tell them which show in the west end too? ;-)

Edited to add "one of the most"
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Sharnita on October 21, 2013, 07:42:18 AM
Not all missionaries dig wells or build schools. Some simply share their beliefs and hope to convince othets, even affluent well-educated cosmopolitan types of the validity of their beliefs.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: squashedfrog on October 21, 2013, 08:21:15 AM
Not all missionaries dig wells or build schools. Some simply share their beliefs and hope to convince othets, even affluent well-educated cosmopolitan types of the validity of their beliefs.

Thanks for clarifying.  I actually honestly believed that missionary work was performed from the first world to third world or disaster areas.  This is why I like this site, you learn new things all the time. 

Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Kari on October 21, 2013, 08:33:05 AM
My company is owned by a wealthy family. They are known for throwing their wealth around in public, but pinching pennies when it comes to spending it on their employees in the form of raises, bonuses, time off, etc. A lot of full-timers have second jobs to pay the bills. One day we got a mass email that the owner's cousin (who wasn't associated with the company in any way) has passed away and that the family would be collecting money to plant a tree on the owner's home property.  All but a few people declined the offer.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: oogyda on October 21, 2013, 09:18:31 AM
Adult diapers.

An apparently homeless woman approached me in a Walmart/Target/Kmart type store's parking lot wanting adult diapers. 
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: cmurf1960 on October 21, 2013, 09:46:54 AM
A few years ago, my mother-in-law called and asked my husband to buy his college-aged niece (his sister's kid), a NEW car.  The kid's old car had died and hubby's sister could not afford to buy her another one.  Basically, they wanted to take the kid to a dealership, let her pick out a car, and put hubby on the hook for the monthly payments.

He said HELL TO THE NO.  For one thing, when he was that age, nobody bought HIM a car, new or used.  He had this little thing known as a JOB (which his niece does not have), bought himself an old junker van, and learned to fix it up himself.  These people also live in an area where there is decent public transportation, so why can't the kid take the bus until she can get a job and save for a car? 

Also, our current car was starting to die, and we were trying to decide if it was worth fixing, or if we should just replace it.   At the time, we could only afford one car payment, and we actually need a car because there is no public transit to his work.  He might have been willing to contribute something toward a used car, with the stipulation that niece get a job and pay her share.  He did not want to be tied to a debt for someone else.  But no, it had to be NEW, and getting a job was not an option, as she was SO BUSY with school.  Yeah, right, when hubby was at MIT, which IS a hard school, he still managed to work weekends.

We ended up buying a new car for ourselves, but never told his family (they live hundreds of miles away from us, thank goodness!), because then we'd never hear the end of it.  MIL ended up giving HER car to the niece and buying a new one for herself, then blamed hubby because she couldn't really afford the payments.  Well, if niece were willing to step up, look for a job that she can take the bus to (plentiful where they live) and accept help toward a used car, we would have helped.  As it was, she had to settle for Grandma's used car anyway.

I just get annoyed when people are so free to try to spend other people's money, but things change when they have to spend their own.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: JeanFromBNA on October 21, 2013, 09:59:02 AM
I don't know that burial in a cemetary is that muvh of a "tri,ming", nor does some sort of headstone serm like a huge luxury.
Parking my first (and final) POD right here.  I think that you're making uncharitable assumptions, flickan.  You aren't required to give at all, but even the simplest funeral and final expenses can cost more than the person has put aside.  My mother had no funeral and was cremated straight from the hospital, and it still cost $1700 back in 1998. 
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: mbbored on October 21, 2013, 10:03:30 AM
Not all missionaries dig wells or build schools. Some simply share their beliefs and hope to convince othets, even affluent well-educated cosmopolitan types of the validity of their beliefs.

Thanks for clarifying.  I actually honestly believed that missionary work was performed from the first world to third world or disaster areas.  This is why I like this site, you learn new things all the time.

The type my cousins do (which I mentioned upthread) involves standing on street corners, shouting and handing out pamphlets.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: flickan on October 21, 2013, 10:20:54 AM
I don't know that burial in a cemetary is that muvh of a "tri,ming", nor does some sort of headstone serm like a huge luxury.
Parking my first (and final) POD right here.  I think that you're making uncharitable assumptions, flickan.  You aren't required to give at all, but even the simplest funeral and final expenses can cost more than the person has put aside.  My mother had no funeral and was cremated straight from the hospital, and it still cost $1700 back in 1998.

The amount being asked for is well in excess of $1700.

I don't think anyone is entitled to the expense of a funeral or a plot or a gravestone.  If it were an issue of "I cannot even afford the cost of cremation" I might be a little more sympathetic, but this is asking for a full service burial.  And this is asking people who have never met the relative.  Surely if there are methods for and times when requesting money to take care of one's deceased is appropriate and acceptable this is not one of them.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Thipu1 on October 21, 2013, 10:21:39 AM
I don't want to sound like a cynic but the idea of teen-aged 'missionaries' soliciting money to spend Spring Break in London sounds a bit fishy. 

Will they be teaming up with an established mission of their denomination in London?  If that's the case I could see contributing to the cause. 

Will they just be heading out to Speaker's Corner and spouting forth?  If that's the case the answer will be a resounding 'Nope'. 

We don't see it much these days but it used to be a common practice for seminary students to do street-corner preaching. The idea was that it helped them hone their sermon and personal interaction skills.  However, these were people of University age. 

For High School students it sounds more like a lark than anything else and could be outright dangerous. 
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Twik on October 21, 2013, 10:34:01 AM
Regarding the missionaries to London, from a religious standpoint, large metropolitan cities are often areas where moral teachings are most in need. (For a reverse on the typical trope, the silent movie "Broken Blossoms" starts with a Chinese monk coming to the West to proselytize, because he believes its inhabitants are desperately in need of the peace he's found in Buddhism. Ultimately, the depravity in our society breaks him.)
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: nutraxfornerves on October 21, 2013, 10:45:27 AM
Many years ago, a street guy came up to me and cheerfully said "Hey, Big Momma! How 'bout you & me spend some of your spare change on a bottle of wine?"

A previous post of mine The Gimme Pig app (http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=129911.0)
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: lady_disdain on October 21, 2013, 10:47:59 AM
Adult diapers.

An apparently homeless woman approached me in a Walmart/Target/Kmart type store's parking lot wanting adult diapers. 

That is sad, not outrageous.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: nuit93 on October 21, 2013, 10:50:23 AM
I know a couple that seems to be constantly struggling financially and is almost always begging for something (with the promise that "we'll give back when we're back on our feet, we promise!"). 

Among the past requests:

-rent money so they don't get thrown out
-car repair/replacement so they can get to school
-tuition money for said school because they missed a financial aid deadline
-moving money so they can relocate

I haven't heard much from them recently.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: amylouky on October 21, 2013, 11:13:46 AM
Adult diapers.

An apparently homeless woman approached me in a Walmart/Target/Kmart type store's parking lot wanting adult diapers. 

That is sad, not outrageous.

POD. I think I might have actually bought them for her, if I was able. I suppose she could have been planning to return them for cash, but still.. can't imagine needing those and not being able to afford them.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: rose red on October 21, 2013, 11:54:16 AM
I think I told this before.  We passed a high school car wash for sports teams where the students hold up signs and yell at passing cars, which is normal.  The outrageous part is one girl screaming "I HAVE CANCER!!!!!!!" to passing motorists while her friends around her are laughing and having a good time.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: heartmug on October 21, 2013, 12:03:24 PM
I think I told this before.  We passed a high school car wash for sports teams where the students hold up signs and yell at passing cars, which is normal.  The outrageous part is one girl screaming "I HAVE CANCER!!!!!!!" to passing motorists while her friends around her are laughing and having a good time.

Yikes!


A certain SIL asked me, my sister and her 2 sisters to throw her a baby  shower for baby #4.  But she just hhhhaaadddd to have one.  (She used the line "but all babies should be celebrated.")  When her sister bought a new house they combined it - so it ended up being come see "Mary's" house and meet "Ann's" new baby.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: cwm on October 21, 2013, 12:13:58 PM
This comes with a bit of background. I'm finally on my feet, paying about 95% of my bills on my own at this point, though the past year has been really tough.

Years ago I had a box with over $1000 in costuming bits and bobs for a Ren Faire outfit. Everything got thrown out by my dad for a stupid reason.

Sis used to be well-off financially, but in the past few year has struggled. Mom pays her rent and helps with her bills. End BG.

I've been trying for years to find more costume pieces on the cheap for my Ren Faire costume. I'm trying to replace what I had, but I realize that it's going to take years at this point, as I have bills that come first. The other day I get a picture message from sis, showing off some sort of fur/leather legwear. She wants me to pick them up for her the next day when I'm at the Ren Faire because she can't afford them right now. Because she just spent nearly $200 on the rest of her outfit. Because, and these are her words, not mine, "I can't pay my bills anyway, so I've been saving up this fun money for an entire year to get my costume together."

I declined to purchase her costume piece. I did not mention that the $40 she wanted me to spend on her would actually pay two bills of mine.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: veryfluffy on October 21, 2013, 12:46:20 PM
Not all missionaries dig wells or build schools. Some simply share their beliefs and hope to convince othets, even affluent well-educated cosmopolitan types of the validity of their beliefs.

Thanks for clarifying.  I actually honestly believed that missionary work was performed from the first world to third world or disaster areas.  This is why I like this site, you learn new things all the time.

I've had "missionaries" (nice young American boys) come knocking at the door -- I live in a rural area about 100 miles from London. I told them they would have more luck converting people in England if it didn't involve giving up coffee, alcohol and especially tea.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: nuit93 on October 21, 2013, 12:54:28 PM
Not all missionaries dig wells or build schools. Some simply share their beliefs and hope to convince othets, even affluent well-educated cosmopolitan types of the validity of their beliefs.

Thanks for clarifying.  I actually honestly believed that missionary work was performed from the first world to third world or disaster areas.  This is why I like this site, you learn new things all the time.

I've had "missionaries" (nice young American boys) come knocking at the door -- I live in a rural area about 100 miles from London. I told them they would have more luck converting people in England if it didn't involve giving up coffee, alcohol and especially tea.

LOL!
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: hermanne on October 21, 2013, 02:16:17 PM
Not all missionaries dig wells or build schools. Some simply share their beliefs and hope to convince othets, even affluent well-educated cosmopolitan types of the validity of their beliefs.

Thanks for clarifying.  I actually honestly believed that missionary work was performed from the first world to third world or disaster areas.  This is why I like this site, you learn new things all the time.

I've had "missionaries" (nice young American boys) come knocking at the door -- I live in a rural area about 100 miles from London. I told them they would have more luck converting people in England if it didn't involve giving up coffee, alcohol and especially tea.

LOL!

Love it!
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: oogyda on October 21, 2013, 02:37:06 PM
Adult diapers.

An apparently homeless woman approached me in a Walmart/Target/Kmart type store's parking lot wanting adult diapers. 

That is sad, not outrageous.

POD. I think I might have actually bought them for her, if I was able. I suppose she could have been planning to return them for cash, but still.. can't imagine needing those and not being able to afford them.

I did buy them for her.  She cried. 

I had finished my shopping and was returning my cart to the corral when she approached me.  I suppose since my hair is more gray/white than anything else, she thought I might understand.  I asked her to come in with me and she declined.  Perhaps because she was dirty and smelled...but who knows.  So, I asked her what kind and what size and went back in for them.  She must have known the prices as the brand she requested was the least expensive of all of them.  I bought the 12 pack (choices were 6, 12 or 24) since the 24 pack was very bulky.   Less than $10 spent. 

I meant "outrageous" in the extraordinary or unconventional sense.....not in the overly entitled sense. 
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: GlitterIsMyDrug on October 21, 2013, 02:54:00 PM
Well I just got an mass email from my cousin asking if anyone would "donate" to her divorce fund. Then a reply all from her mom (also my cousin) stating that Glitter should be willing to "donate to the cause" as I was unwilling to let her live with me (for free, for as long as she wanted). Glitter is not amused.

See cousin is already divorced, so this isn't give me money so I can hire a lawyer. No, see she married a man who made good money and could support her in a nice lifestyle and she didn't have to work. But since she had an affair, per the pre-nup she signed, she don't get a gosh darn thing. So she wants the family to give her some money so she can "afford her lifestyle", her step-dad hooked her up with a job at his catering company, and she makes enough to pay for the basics but she can't afford to get her done, or her nails done, and she hasn't been shopping in AGES. She's living on mac n' chesse and hot dogs. It's very awful. Apparently.

I am at fault because when her mom said "Glitter, let your cousin live here" I said "No". Had I said yes, the money she makes could go to shopping and hair and nails and not boring old bills. I got my hair cut this weekend and posted up a picture of it. So since I can afford to get my hair done, I should be paying for her to get her hair done.  ::)

I just clicked reply all again and typed "No. And please remove me from your solicitation list", you're a grown up. Be a grown up.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: goldilocks on October 21, 2013, 04:30:02 PM
Last summer a mom and her daughter knocked on my door asking me for money to help support her daughter in a beauty pageant. What???? And as I looked across the street, there was her dad and brother asking my neighbor for the same thing and showing her photo.

That's probably not as bad as it looks on the surface.   My niece participates in beauty pageants.  She was in a fairly big one last year (state wide), and she was not allowed to pay her own fee.  Instead she had to raise "sponsors" to pay for the fee.   As far as I know, however, she didn't go to strangers but family members and friends.   Often the girls will have a business sponsor them for the advertising.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: aiki on October 21, 2013, 04:37:53 PM
My niece participates in beauty pageants.  She was in a fairly big one last year (state wide), and she was not allowed to pay her own fee.  Instead she had to raise "sponsors" to pay for the fee.   

What's the reasoning behind that?
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: GlitterIsMyDrug on October 21, 2013, 04:46:09 PM
I had a woman once ask me if I'd buy her some feminine hygiene products. It looked like she was living out of her car, though she looked clean so I'm guessing she'd just hit some hard times, I took her inside, handed her basket and told her to get what she needed (after some prodding from me we got soap, shampoo, ect). She was so grateful she was crying. She told me several people had said she'd "sell it for drugs", I can't imagine how that would work.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Slartibartfast on October 21, 2013, 05:00:34 PM
I had a woman once ask me if I'd buy her some feminine hygiene products. It looked like she was living out of her car, though she looked clean so I'm guessing she'd just hit some hard times, I took her inside, handed her basket and told her to get what she needed (after some prodding from me we got soap, shampoo, ect). She was so grateful she was crying. She told me several people had said she'd "sell it for drugs", I can't imagine how that would work.

"Psst - hey buddy!  Wanna buy some tampons?"

Okay, maybe not  :P
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: jedikaiti on October 21, 2013, 05:10:40 PM
I haven't heard of tampons, but I have heard on the news about people stealing laundry detergent to sell on. I'm not sure why laundry detergent is such a big draw, but apparently they steal the bottle (or box) and sell it for less than retail to make money.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: nuit93 on October 21, 2013, 05:12:22 PM
Maybe because household cleaning products (and also feminine hygiene supplies) can't be bought with food stamps?

I don't know why anyone would want to resell them for drugs though.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: MommyPenguin on October 21, 2013, 05:14:50 PM
I had a woman ask for some money to buy tampons with once.  I told her I could buy some for her, but then she wasn't interested.  I'm guessing that most people who are scamming would ask for the money for that purpose, rather than asking for the items themselves.  I suppose you could *maybe* return the stuff with a receipt, if you had it, but the chances of the buyer necessarily giving you the receipt seem low, so it seems less likely to me to be a scam if the person wants the actual items and not just the money.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: blue2000 on October 21, 2013, 05:18:03 PM
I had a woman once ask me if I'd buy her some feminine hygiene products. It looked like she was living out of her car, though she looked clean so I'm guessing she'd just hit some hard times, I took her inside, handed her basket and told her to get what she needed (after some prodding from me we got soap, shampoo, ect). She was so grateful she was crying. She told me several people had said she'd "sell it for drugs", I can't imagine how that would work.

It is pretty common to offload stolen/free items for a few bucks of drug money. Even shampoo or tampons. If people can't (or don't want) to pay full price, they might strike a deal with a beggar for cheap goods.

Having said that, it was very sweet of you to buy it for her. :)
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Kimblee on October 21, 2013, 05:39:26 PM
Last summer a mom and her daughter knocked on my door asking me for money to help support her daughter in a beauty pageant. What???? And as I looked across the street, there was her dad and brother asking my neighbor for the same thing and showing her photo.

A girl I know did that! Well, kinda. She didn't go door to door, she made a booth on the street corner(her aunt's street corner) and sold autographs, handmade jewelry, sodas and cupcakes, all with a huge glittery posterboard sign that said "Help [girl] get to [pageant name]! Every penny counts!" She had a "guest book" for people to write their names and addresses and nice wishes for her.

She raised her money, and won. And then went all over town handing out "thank you" bags with lip balm, a photo of her in her crown, pens and sash, and hand writen notes thanking people for their "belief" in a "small town girl's dream".

It was a nice bag... Even if I just wanted a couple cupcakes and a diet coke.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: jedikaiti on October 21, 2013, 05:42:28 PM
Now that's the way to do it!
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: hobish on October 21, 2013, 05:47:26 PM

When I was about 20 or so, the boyfriend-at-the-time and I were walking down South Street in Philly when a couple of guys around our age asked for $5 for The United Negro Pizza Fund. The boyfriend was so amused by their wit and honesty he gave it to them. I don’t think they even really needed it, they just wanted some pizza.  ;D
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: lady_disdain on October 21, 2013, 06:33:11 PM
Adult diapers.

An apparently homeless woman approached me in a Walmart/Target/Kmart type store's parking lot wanting adult diapers. 

That is sad, not outrageous.

POD. I think I might have actually bought them for her, if I was able. I suppose she could have been planning to return them for cash, but still.. can't imagine needing those and not being able to afford them.

I did buy them for her.  She cried. 

I had finished my shopping and was returning my cart to the corral when she approached me.  I suppose since my hair is more gray/white than anything else, she thought I might understand.  I asked her to come in with me and she declined.  Perhaps because she was dirty and smelled...but who knows.  So, I asked her what kind and what size and went back in for them.  She must have known the prices as the brand she requested was the least expensive of all of them.  I bought the 12 pack (choices were 6, 12 or 24) since the 24 pack was very bulky.   Less than $10 spent. 

I meant "outrageous" in the extraordinary or unconventional sense.....not in the overly entitled sense. 

Thank you for doing that.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: kherbert05 on October 21, 2013, 07:47:24 PM
My cousin apologized for other family members trying to pressure me into donating to his going on a mission fund. He knows exactly how I feel about people pushing religion on anyone. We agree to disagree (and I love him dearly) about many things. The fact he knows how I feel and doesn't push makes him dearer to me.


A couple of years before I had given both him and his sister money for their birthdays and Christmas because they were both going to school and working to save up enough money for a trip to backpack Europe.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: *inviteseller on October 22, 2013, 09:35:43 AM
I am in agreement with OP about the funeral solicitation.  The person isn't even dead yet, so it is not like a sudden tragedy (fire, accident), no one that is being solicited even knows this person, who may be mortified to find out their eventual passing is becoming a fund raising opportunity, and to give a dollar amount needed to be raised.  Most people, when setting up memorial accounts appreciate any amount and don't have a price tag.  Also, just because you want a big fancy funeral with all the trimmings doesn't mean everyone is obligated to make that happen.  When my ex husband died recently, his mother was so upset that no one was kicking in the money for the funeral her baby boy deserved..well, he had no money, she had no money, I had a small dollar amount to kick in but it had to be done with what they had which was a state paid cremation, a rental coffin for a 3 hour viewing, and eventual burial of his ashes with his mother.  Same as any other thing in life, you plan for what you can afford and so many people do pre paid so they can make payments and have the funeral of their desires.  The OP's solicitation email just sounds so darn off...and I am cynical enough to think they are using the dying relative as a way to pay their own bills.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: gramma dishes on October 22, 2013, 10:00:13 AM


...   She didn't go door to door, she made a booth on the street corner(her aunt's street corner) and sold autographs, handmade jewelry, sodas and cupcakes, all with a huge glittery posterboard sign that said "Help [girl] get to [pageant name]! Every penny counts!" She had a "guest book" for people to write their names and addresses and nice wishes for her.

...

To me, that's altogether different from walking door to door just asking for money.  This girl wasn't begging.  She worked hard for the money!! 

It also sounds like she was fantastic about following up with Thank Yous too.  Good for her!
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: cwm on October 22, 2013, 10:06:01 AM
Just remembered one from my mom. She got a letter from a cousin that she's fairly close to, and that Sis and I are close to. Cousin used to babysit for Sproglet on a regular basis, she's a great girl. Mom and Cousin's mom are also extremely close.

Anyway, this letter was a fundraising letter asking for money to go on a Missions trip to Costa Rica. Great, right? Except it was a form letter. No name, no personalization whatsoever, just a form letter. Mom said she's never been so hurt. If Cousin really wanted some money for fundraising, all she had to do was get on FB and message, or call, or email, or stop by. Mom would have been very generous if Cousin came and personally asked. As it was, she felt more like she was in a massive cattle call for money. I believe she declined to give, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: v33ly on October 22, 2013, 10:56:43 AM
This wasn't a direct solicitation, but one towards everyone in my town.

About a year ago, a well-known figure about town was struck by a car in one of those terrible, blameless accidents.  She wound up in the hospital and never made it home, she died two months ago.

Her son set up a newspaper ad and went around town soliciting donations for her medical care.  People donated because everyone loved her.  A few days later, her daughter (her primary caregiver) had to let people know that her mother's insurance was covering all treatment and the son was estranged.  And had convictions for theft.  As far as I know, no one got their money back.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: MindsEye on October 22, 2013, 11:43:24 AM
I had a woman once ask me if I'd buy her some feminine hygiene products. It looked like she was living out of her car, though she looked clean so I'm guessing she'd just hit some hard times, I took her inside, handed her basket and told her to get what she needed (after some prodding from me we got soap, shampoo, ect). She was so grateful she was crying. She told me several people had said she'd "sell it for drugs", I can't imagine how that would work.

Well, I don't know about bar soap or shampoo... but some types of powdered detergent are often used to "cut" certain types of drugs...
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: MindsEye on October 22, 2013, 11:50:10 AM
There is just no tasteful way of putting this...

... I had an acquaintance who was trying to crowd-fund a b00b job. 

Not because she had had cancer and needed a reconstruction... no... she just thought that hers were too small, wanted much bigger ones, and couldn't (or maybe didn't want to) pay for it on her own. 
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: shhh its me on October 22, 2013, 12:10:20 PM
  I misread the OP and thought I saw "buy a relative"

I think its a little uncharitable to judge so harshly with so much missing information.  You don't know that a family member can step up and pay for it. The person who is dying may be greatly distressed at the thought of not being buried.   Even the simplest funerals are expensive in the several thousands (with coffin , embalming , plot that's not counting a the simplest grave maker (bronze ? 8 x10 ish set in flat in the grass) was $250 15 years ago) Burials are required by some religions and I wouldn't have the heart to tell a  dying stranger "well there's not enough money for a gave for you so you're going to hell." let alone a relative, so while it may be in bad taste it may but sheer desperation in a desperate time.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: NestHolder on October 22, 2013, 01:43:57 PM
We knew of some people who were soliciting funds for their daughter and some others to go to London, UK, during spring break as missionaries.  They stated that [deity] had told them to go and save people.  We declined to contribute. 

The things that people claim that [deity] has told them to do always amaze me.

Sorry am I missing something?  London?  They want to go to London, one of the most affluent and culturally diverse tourist cities in the world, for missionary reasons?   Did diety tell them which show in the west end too? ;-)

Edited to add "one of the most"

I certainly don't think they would have found any converts—though they could have ranted awhile at Speakers Corner for the edification of the passing masses.

Going to "The Book of Mormon" while they were here would have been educational. 
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: cwm on October 22, 2013, 03:54:36 PM
There is just no tasteful way of putting this...

... I had an acquaintance who was trying to crowd-fund a b00b job. 

Not because she had had cancer and needed a reconstruction... no... she just thought that hers were too small, wanted much bigger ones, and couldn't (or maybe didn't want to) pay for it on her own.

I read a story earlier this year about a woman who got one on the NHS in England. It was to further her career as a model, and because her self-esteem was so terrible without it. Taxpayers ended up paying for it.

Well, wouldn't you know, they made them too big. And it was so hard for her to put up with all the catcalls on the street, and her modelling career didn't take off. So then she wanted the NHS to give her a reduction. For free. Because it was so terrible, what she had to go through, and now that her story was in the news for getting it done in the first place, she was getting hate mail and threats. So of course, let's have those angry taxpayers fund another surgery, it's the best idea, right?

Now please keep in mind I live half a world away from the UK and was only following this through the tabloids online (Daily Mail is a source of great entertainment because I don't believe half of it), but still, I have to wonder what was going through this girl's mind.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: #borecore on October 22, 2013, 04:58:52 PM
Just remembered one from my mom. She got a letter from a cousin that she's fairly close to, and that Sis and I are close to. Cousin used to babysit for Sproglet on a regular basis, she's a great girl. Mom and Cousin's mom are also extremely close.

Anyway, this letter was a fundraising letter asking for money to go on a Missions trip to Costa Rica. Great, right? Except it was a form letter. No name, no personalization whatsoever, just a form letter. Mom said she's never been so hurt. If Cousin really wanted some money for fundraising, all she had to do was get on FB and message, or call, or email, or stop by. Mom would have been very generous if Cousin came and personally asked. As it was, she felt more like she was in a massive cattle call for money. I believe she declined to give, but I'm not sure.

I understand your mother's disappointment, but it's entirely possible that they required the kids to give out names/addresses (or address the envelopes themselves) while actually at the church for the mission fundraising event. Peer pressure and all.

I know that's the way they made my peers do a bunch of similar fundraisers back in the day, anyway.

Once, I gave an umbrella to a person living on the street in the pouring rain, walked into a store, and when I walked out they asked me for cash.

Another time, in the same area (where a lot of teen runaways lived), I gave a group a pizza. They asked me for one with different toppings (not just cheese) and heckled me when I said that's all I had.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Idlewildstudios on October 22, 2013, 05:28:22 PM
A lady I work with does missionary work in Africa occasionally during her summers with her husband, which is fine.  What rubs me the way is that they buy tons of beaded necklaces from the local women really, really, REALLY cheaply.  They then bring the necklaces back and sell them to friends for a huge profit.  Which is also fine, but for the statement I've heard her say more than once... " those women have no idea how much these necklaces sell for here!  We're making a KILLING!"

I've declined to purchase any.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: flickan on October 22, 2013, 05:33:45 PM
A lady I work with does missionary work in Africa occasionally during her summers with her husband, which is fine.  What rubs me the way is that they buy tons of beaded necklaces from the local women really, really, REALLY cheaply.  They then bring the necklaces back and sell them to friends for a huge profit.  Which is also fine, but for the statement I've heard her say more than once... " those women have no idea how much these necklaces sell for here!  We're making a KILLING!"

I've declined to purchase any.

Wait a second... do you mean that she's selling them for her own personal profit?

Because I can see if she's selling them at a high markup for charity going back into the mission, that would make sense.  But to brag about profit she herself enjoys on these items seems... just... wow...
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: jedikaiti on October 22, 2013, 05:45:45 PM
Uncharitable, at the least.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Elfmama on October 22, 2013, 06:05:57 PM
DH's church asked for $$$$$ to send the pastor on an overseas tour.  Not to a 3rd-world country on a mission to help people, but to ANTARCTICA for a vacation!  They apparently got enough suckers willing to pay to send him there, but DH didn't give them a dime. 
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: nuit93 on October 22, 2013, 06:06:59 PM
DH's church asked for $$$$$ to send the pastor on an overseas tour.  Not to a 3rd-world country on a mission to help people, but to ANTARCTICA for a vacation!  They apparently got enough suckers willing to pay to send him there, but DH didn't give them a dime.

You know, when I think of vacation spots, I don't tend to think of places that could kill me from the cold alone.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: lady_disdain on October 22, 2013, 06:19:00 PM
DH's church asked for $$$$$ to send the pastor on an overseas tour.  Not to a 3rd-world country on a mission to help people, but to ANTARCTICA for a vacation!  They apparently got enough suckers willing to pay to send him there, but DH didn't give them a dime.

You know, when I think of vacation spots, I don't tend to think of places that could kill me from the cold alone.

I would love to go but I would rather pay for it myself. Perhaps they should give him a one-way ticket?
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Idlewildstudios on October 22, 2013, 06:42:15 PM
A lady I work with does missionary work in Africa occasionally during her summers with her husband, which is fine.  What rubs me the way is that they buy tons of beaded necklaces from the local women really, really, REALLY cheaply.  They then bring the necklaces back and sell them to friends for a huge profit.  Which is also fine, but for the statement I've heard her say more than once... " those women have no idea how much these necklaces sell for here!  We're making a KILLING!"

I've declined to purchase any.

Wait a second... do you mean that she's selling them for her own personal profit?

Because I can see if she's selling them at a high markup for charity going back into the mission, that would make sense.  But to brag about profit she herself enjoys on these items seems... just... wow...


Yep.  I'd have no issue if the money was used to fund another mission or some such.  But their past two trips have been to kayak in Hawaii.  Openly funded by their huge mark up on the necklaces.  Most people who buy them are given the impression the profit is for charity.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: hobish on October 22, 2013, 06:45:37 PM
A lady I work with does missionary work in Africa occasionally during her summers with her husband, which is fine.  What rubs me the way is that they buy tons of beaded necklaces from the local women really, really, REALLY cheaply.  They then bring the necklaces back and sell them to friends for a huge profit.  Which is also fine, but for the statement I've heard her say more than once... " those women have no idea how much these necklaces sell for here!  We're making a KILLING!"

I've declined to purchase any.

Wait a second... do you mean that she's selling them for her own personal profit?

Because I can see if she's selling them at a high markup for charity going back into the mission, that would make sense.  But to brag about profit she herself enjoys on these items seems... just... wow...


Yep.  I'd have no issue if the money was used to fund another mission or some such.  But their past two trips have been to kayak in Hawaii.  Openly funded by their huge mark up on the necklaces.  Most people who buy them are given the impression the profit is for charity.

Wow ... that's ... wow. I am dumbfounded.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: andi on October 22, 2013, 08:55:59 PM
We have had panhandlers soliciting for Pot and Beer.  I had one throw a fit because I gave money to a charity group on the same corner and would not give him any. He kept following me screaming about how I needed to smoke a joint and loosen up.  I had to call the cops to get him to leave me alone.

Not sure about other areas but in Seattle I have seen about 10-15 people with variations on the same signs.

Was gonna ask if you lived in Austin!  Used to see the pot ones quite often
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: jedikaiti on October 22, 2013, 10:16:53 PM
A lady I work with does missionary work in Africa occasionally during her summers with her husband, which is fine.  What rubs me the way is that they buy tons of beaded necklaces from the local women really, really, REALLY cheaply.  They then bring the necklaces back and sell them to friends for a huge profit.  Which is also fine, but for the statement I've heard her say more than once... " those women have no idea how much these necklaces sell for here!  We're making a KILLING!"

I've declined to purchase any.

Wait a second... do you mean that she's selling them for her own personal profit?

Because I can see if she's selling them at a high markup for charity going back into the mission, that would make sense.  But to brag about profit she herself enjoys on these items seems... just... wow...


Yep.  I'd have no issue if the money was used to fund another mission or some such.  But their past two trips have been to kayak in Hawaii.  Openly funded by their huge mark up on the necklaces.  Most people who buy them are given the impression the profit is for charity.

Perhaps a very polite, faux-innocent tactical guilt trip is in order?
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: cicero on October 23, 2013, 08:16:52 AM
Regarding the missionaries to London, from a religious standpoint, large metropolitan cities are often areas where moral teachings are most in need. (For a reverse on the typical trope, the silent movie "Broken Blossoms" starts with a Chinese monk coming to the West to proselytize, because he believes its inhabitants are desperately in need of the peace he's found in Buddhism. Ultimately, the depravity in our society breaks him.)
Be that as it may, somehow, I don't think a group of HS students on spring break in another country is the way to go.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: cicero on October 23, 2013, 08:22:37 AM
Last summer a mom and her daughter knocked on my door asking me for money to help support her daughter in a beauty pageant. What???? And as I looked across the street, there was her dad and brother asking my neighbor for the same thing and showing her photo.

A girl I know did that! Well, kinda. She didn't go door to door, she made a booth on the street corner(her aunt's street corner) and sold autographs, handmade jewelry, sodas and cupcakes, all with a huge glittery posterboard sign that said "Help [girl] get to [pageant name]! Every penny counts!" She had a "guest book" for people to write their names and addresses and nice wishes for her.

She raised her money, and won. And then went all over town handing out "thank you" bags with lip balm, a photo of her in her crown, pens and sash, and hand writen notes thanking people for their "belief" in a "small town girl's dream".

It was a nice bag... Even if I just wanted a couple cupcakes and a diet coke.
but that is totally classy! sounds like an updated "Lemonade stand" AND with thank you bags! good for her (I'm not into the whole beauty pageant scene but she sounds like she has brains AND beauty)
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: SCMagnolia on October 23, 2013, 08:46:28 AM
I worked with a man a while back who definitely had some issues with managing his finances.   His wife only worked here and there at part-time jobs for a couple weeks at a time, citing "medical issues" that kept her from standing/sitting/being awake/etc for too long a period of time.  He only worked part-time himself and was reluctant to take a second job because "who would watch the kids?" (Keep in mind, his wife would be home to watch them, but apparently, her "medical issues" didn't allow for that kind of work, either.)

Well, this man and his wife have 2 kids, one of which they decided had amazing football talent, and in order for him to have a shot at becoming a future NFL player,  they decided to pick up the family and move to a different school district that had a football team known for its success and the number of players that were offered college football scholarships.  This same school district is also known for having some of the highest taxes and being one of the most expensive places to live in our area.

Soooo....  Co-worker sends out an email to all his friends, acquaintances, and anyone he might possibly have seen on the street.  Pours out the whole story about their move and flat out ASKS FOR DONATIONS to subsidize their move, the deposit and first month's rent on their (much more expensive) apartment, and new furniture for their new (much larger and much more expensive) apartment. 

Fast forward several months.  Co-worker sends out another email about how rough things have been since their move -- his commute to work has doubled, as have his commuting costs.  Wife can't (more like won't) work, and they're in dire straits, having moved to this very expensive apartment in this very expensive school district to try to help their son get a football scholarship.  To top it all off, Christmas is coming and his kids REALLY DESERVE to have a nice Christmas.  Would any of us like to donate to their cause to help make sure his kids get the (insert name of very expensive, popular, impossible to find toys of the season here) that they want and deserve for being such good kids?  Co-worker managed to even send this email to our boss.

He was fired not long after he hit the send button.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Twik on October 23, 2013, 08:49:08 AM
A lady I work with does missionary work in Africa occasionally during her summers with her husband, which is fine.  What rubs me the way is that they buy tons of beaded necklaces from the local women really, really, REALLY cheaply.  They then bring the necklaces back and sell them to friends for a huge profit.  Which is also fine, but for the statement I've heard her say more than once... " those women have no idea how much these necklaces sell for here!  We're making a KILLING!"

I've declined to purchase any.

Wait a second... do you mean that she's selling them for her own personal profit?

Because I can see if she's selling them at a high markup for charity going back into the mission, that would make sense.  But to brag about profit she herself enjoys on these items seems... just... wow...

That's a shame, because it sounds like there could be a great opportunity for some sort of "fair trade" deal with the charity. Instead, it sounds like the woman has a great deal of contempt for the local people she's supposedly helping.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: MayHug on October 23, 2013, 09:09:21 AM
I have a co-worker that used to always be in dire straits with money. I've helped out a few times over the years when rent was due or the lights were going to be shut off. One time she came to me and asked if I had $75. (I don't loan money, I have only given when I was presented with a real need) I said I didn't have any cash on me was it something she needed right away I could go to the ATM? She said that the anti-virus on her computer was due and if it wasn't paid by the next day it would be turned off. (This was a few years ago) I declined and let her know of the free one I used with no problems. She was a little taken back, I had never turned her down before.

My boss ended up helping her learn to budget and she does well now.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: heathert on October 23, 2013, 09:34:36 AM
I'm asking this because we recently heard from an acquaintance who is fundraising for the expense of burying a relative.  Only friends are being solicited, none of them really know the relative, no one knows what the immediate family thinks of this, and the kicker is that she (the relative in question) is still alive but will probably pass soon.  It's a very sad situation and one we find very bizarre.

I've heard of collections being taken up for new homes, career changes, weddings, adoptions, etc but this seems to me so far outside the realm of bad taste that I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't heard it myself.

So what havse you been asked to contribute to that you just couldn't believe?
I've solicited funds for a funeral and burial before.  Not everyone is prepared for final expenses or has family that can pay.  Why do you find this in "bad taste?"

This is my thought as well. I know right now we are not prepared and God forbid something happen but if you don't have it, you don't have it. 
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: cwm on October 23, 2013, 09:49:05 AM
Just remembered one from my mom. She got a letter from a cousin that she's fairly close to, and that Sis and I are close to. Cousin used to babysit for Sproglet on a regular basis, she's a great girl. Mom and Cousin's mom are also extremely close.

Anyway, this letter was a fundraising letter asking for money to go on a Missions trip to Costa Rica. Great, right? Except it was a form letter. No name, no personalization whatsoever, just a form letter. Mom said she's never been so hurt. If Cousin really wanted some money for fundraising, all she had to do was get on FB and message, or call, or email, or stop by. Mom would have been very generous if Cousin came and personally asked. As it was, she felt more like she was in a massive cattle call for money. I believe she declined to give, but I'm not sure.

I understand your mother's disappointment, but it's entirely possible that they required the kids to give out names/addresses (or address the envelopes themselves) while actually at the church for the mission fundraising event. Peer pressure and all.

I know that's the way they made my peers do a bunch of similar fundraisers back in the day, anyway.

Once, I gave an umbrella to a person living on the street in the pouring rain, walked into a store, and when I walked out they asked me for cash.

Another time, in the same area (where a lot of teen runaways lived), I gave a group a pizza. They asked me for one with different toppings (not just cheese) and heckled me when I said that's all I had.

While this is a good point, I think what stung most was that she didn't otherwise hear from Cousin at all. Had Cousin called or messaged her personally it would have been different, but to get only the form letter and nothing else stung.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: scotcat60 on October 23, 2013, 10:44:54 AM
Waing for a bus, I and other travellers were solicted for money by a man who said he wanted money to go an visit his wife in hospital. When we declined, he stomped off into the nearby bookmakers. It was a long wait for the bus, and he didn't come out.  Being charitable - maybe they gave him work tidying up to earn the money for the bus fare.,,,,

As for proselytizing in the UK, the British are notoriously shy and awkward being asked about religion, and usually ignore anyone giving out leaflets, or holding meetings in the street in my experience, so good luck to any who try.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Twik on October 23, 2013, 11:03:09 AM
Regarding the missionaries to London, from a religious standpoint, large metropolitan cities are often areas where moral teachings are most in need. (For a reverse on the typical trope, the silent movie "Broken Blossoms" starts with a Chinese monk coming to the West to proselytize, because he believes its inhabitants are desperately in need of the peace he's found in Buddhism. Ultimately, the depravity in our society breaks him.)
Be that as it may, somehow, I don't think a group of HS students on spring break in another country is the way to go.

No, but if it's *that* sort of trip, London is probably one of the safer places they could go.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Ginger G on October 23, 2013, 12:07:51 PM
A few years ago, a coworker I barely knew asked me for $20 to fund some extracurricular activity for her daughter.  I was extremely stressed about my finances at the time because I just had to pay for an expensive life-saving surgery for my cat.  I told her I would give her $20 for her daughter's activity if she would give me $20 for my cat's surgery.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Miss Misery on October 23, 2013, 12:16:54 PM
The homeless woman who wanted me to buy something for her rash.   :o  Ummm.....yuck?

I declined.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: MommyPenguin on October 23, 2013, 12:35:19 PM
A lady I work with does missionary work in Africa occasionally during her summers with her husband, which is fine.  What rubs me the way is that they buy tons of beaded necklaces from the local women really, really, REALLY cheaply.  They then bring the necklaces back and sell them to friends for a huge profit.  Which is also fine, but for the statement I've heard her say more than once... " those women have no idea how much these necklaces sell for here!  We're making a KILLING!"

I've declined to purchase any.

Wait a second... do you mean that she's selling them for her own personal profit?

Because I can see if she's selling them at a high markup for charity going back into the mission, that would make sense.  But to brag about profit she herself enjoys on these items seems... just... wow...


Yep.  I'd have no issue if the money was used to fund another mission or some such.  But their past two trips have been to kayak in Hawaii.  Openly funded by their huge mark up on the necklaces.  Most people who buy them are given the impression the profit is for charity.

Wow ... that's ... wow. I am dumbfounded.

Wow, that's really sad!  And so not the way these things should go.  I used to belong to a church that did something similar in terms of buying things made by women in 3rd world countries (generally the women had been rescued from exploitation situations and were being trained in new jobs, etc.), and it sort of went the opposite way.  The things were probably slightly more expensive than you'd be able to buy the item for here, but all of the money went to the women back there (the church ate the costs of shipping, etc.), so that they could continue to buy supplies and such and get enough practice/exposure so that they could sell things where they were for cheaper, and sell them overseas for more.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Just Lori on October 23, 2013, 01:38:32 PM
Friends of ours participate in a student travel event that costs several thousands of dollars.  When their oldest child went, they sent out the standard letters asking for donations.  I'm not sure how that went, but they tried something new for the second child.  Both parents are skilled in something that people want - for the sake of the post, let's say he decorates cakes and she can change the oil in your car.  They sold raffle tickets for $10, and the winner would get either 10 custom made cakes or a couple years' worth of oil changes.  I bought a ticket.  I didn't win, but I felt better about doing that, rather than handing over $10.

A friend of a friend funded her mission trips by purchasing cloth from the native women.  She sewed them into cute little purses, sold them individually and paid for her next trip.  I bought a little purse, and it's perfect for those days when you need to carry your money and an ID, but you don't want to haul a purse.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Visiting Crazy Town on October 23, 2013, 01:53:31 PM
The homeless woman who wanted me to buy something for her rash.   :o  Ummm.....yuck?

I declined.

I would have bought her something for her rash, I  find myself feeling sad for her.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: GlitterIsMyDrug on October 23, 2013, 01:56:13 PM
Got a card today! From my friend's son (he's 9 now), nice little thank you for his birthday gift (giftcard to a video game store), hand written (and made), except on the bottom there was a typed bit. "So, I asked for an iPad for my birthday, mom said no. I've put in the letter to Santa, but boy the elves have a hard time building those just right. So I'm asking for donations so I can buy one of my very own!", wait...did a 9 year old, who doesn't believe in Santa and hasn't since he was 6 (long story, drunk grandpa) just hit me up for cash to get an iPad? Seriously?

I called mom. According to mom he's been bugging her for an iPad for some time now and she's been saying no. Finally, sick of it, she decided he could "raise" the money by begging friends and family to give him "donations" so he can buy it himself. She was so proud of this plan! Apparenlty this will teach him budgeting skills. I think it teaches him begging skills.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Amara on October 23, 2013, 02:22:24 PM
Wow, Glitter, that makes me see RED! I would be so mad at this attitude--teaching your kid to beg!?!--that I would immediately institute a cut direct. And I'd tell her why. This trend to begging, asking for donations, etc. infuriates me. And now this tops all that!

My father, who firmly believed in pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps--he was of the WWII generation--would be sickened too. This is a beyond-awful trend, and I hate, hate, hate it.  >:(
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: BeagleMommy on October 23, 2013, 02:50:38 PM
One of DH's coworkers went crying to another coworker begging to borrow a credit card because her heat was going to be shut off.

She and her husband live way above their means are are financed so high above their head that they may never be out of debt.

Anyway she was given the credit card number.  When the bill arrived, guess what she bought?  A satellite radio subscription for her husband's work truck.  She then got highly offended when the woman who loaned the credit card cancelled the subscription.  After all, driving across the state means you can't always get good radio.  ::)
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: cwm on October 23, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
Wow, Glitter, that makes me see RED! I would be so mad at this attitude--teaching your kid to beg!?!--that I would immediately institute a cut direct. And I'd tell her why. This trend to begging, asking for donations, etc. infuriates me. And now this tops all that!

My father, who firmly believed in pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps--he was of the WWII generation--would be sickened too. This is a beyond-awful trend, and I hate, hate, hate it.  >:(

I agree. It's one thing to ask for money for a missions trip or school trip (if you're asking in an appropriate way), but asking for donations for a luxury item? That's ridiculous.

I was always taught as a small child to send thank you gifts to people. If I wanted something specific, I was to save up the cash gifts I was given on gift-giving occasions and do extra chores around my house and my grandparents' houses to earn the rest. Usually my parents would give me the extra cash I needed after the next gift-giving holiday, but sometimes they didn't. I never expected it, I was always grateful when I could get what I had saved up for.

It's why I treasure my camera and my laptop so much. I had to save a lot of money and do a lot of research in order to get them. And while if someone asked me what I wanted for birthday or Christmas I'd tell them money to save up for a very large purchase, I never went out and asked for it, and I was never ungrateful with what I was given.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: goldilocks on October 23, 2013, 03:54:19 PM
One of DH's coworkers went crying to another coworker begging to borrow a credit card because her heat was going to be shut off.

She and her husband live way above their means are are financed so high above their head that they may never be out of debt.

Anyway she was given the credit card number.  When the bill arrived, guess what she bought?  A satellite radio subscription for her husband's work truck.  She then got highly offended when the woman who loaned the credit card cancelled the subscription.  After all, driving across the state means you can't always get good radio.  ::)

I'm going to have to question the wisdom of your DH's coworker who actually gave the credit card!
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Margo on October 23, 2013, 04:03:00 PM
Regarding the missionaries to London, from a religious standpoint, large metropolitan cities are often areas where moral teachings are most in need. (For a reverse on the typical trope, the silent movie "Broken Blossoms" starts with a Chinese monk coming to the West to proselytize, because he believes its inhabitants are desperately in need of the peace he's found in Buddhism. Ultimately, the depravity in our society breaks him.)
Be that as it may, somehow, I don't think a group of HS students on spring break in another country is the way to go.
I'm pretty sure thay could find large metropolitan cities in their own country (indeed, in their own State) and would be able to devote much more time and money to their mission than if they had to fund all that travel and accommodation...
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: GlitterIsMyDrug on October 23, 2013, 04:08:05 PM
Wow, Glitter, that makes me see RED! I would be so mad at this attitude--teaching your kid to beg!?!--that I would immediately institute a cut direct. And I'd tell her why. This trend to begging, asking for donations, etc. infuriates me. And now this tops all that!

My father, who firmly believed in pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps--he was of the WWII generation--would be sickened too. This is a beyond-awful trend, and I hate, hate, hate it.  >:(

Her mother (kid's grandma) is not impressed. Which is a very polite way of saying, she received a good old fashioned chewing out.

Here's the real kicker, every year I ask him what he wants for Christmas. He'll either tell me, or say he can't think of anything, in which case I send him money. This year I was thinking of getting him and his little sister (8) refurbished iPads. Partner knows she can get a good deal on some, and she'd make sure they were up to snuff, and then we were going to get some good (cool) cases and an iTunes gift card each. I think they'd help with their school work, and there are some apps I think he would really benefit from. But now...I'm hesitant. I know this idea is all mom, I know the typed note came from mom (he loves to hand write notes because it took him a long time to get legible hand writing, so it's huge he can do it now). But I don't want anyone getting the idea that this is a good idea.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: veronaz on October 23, 2013, 04:42:48 PM
Well, I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but I currently have a coworker that is currently asking people to borrow 11 grand from their 401K to loan him.

Of course he will make the payments. ::)

What nerve!!  Sheesh.  (I'm just now starting to read this thread, and I'm doing lots of eye-rolling and shaking my head.)

Several years ago a relative with whom I’d had no contact in years called and asked me to send money because they had no food.  I happened to know about this couple…….both made decent salaries, had a new house, 2 nice cars, always trying to keep up with the Joneses.  It was a short conversation – I told them to go to a food pantry in their city.

My cousin told me that after she received a personal injury settlement, the husband of a friend called and asked to borrow $8,000,,,,,,,explaining he needed it to settle debts because he was a compulsive gambler.  (Yeah, that would be a good person to loan money to.    ::) )
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Lady Snowdon on October 23, 2013, 05:16:41 PM
This isn't totally outrageous, but I got an email from my DH's uncle yesterday that I thought was funny.  Uncle Joe wrote that Jeremiah, his son, is selling Boy Scout wreaths again this year.  Jeremiah "wanted to contact you all personally to thank you for your orders last year and ask about this year, but he has been super busy".  We are to "carefully consider" our "holiday decoration needs" and respond by this weekend.  Jeremiah would really like us to buy wreaths this year, as he is signed up to go sailing in the Caribbean this coming summer, and 1/3 of the proceeds go to that.  I've never been sailing in the Caribbean in the summer, so I don't think this is a good inducement for people to buy wreaths. 
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Elfmama on October 23, 2013, 05:22:47 PM
And if you decline, will Uncle Joe try to lay on the guilt trip?  "Don't you want Jeremiah to ever have any fun?  Do you hate all kids, or just Jerry?"
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Lady Snowdon on October 23, 2013, 05:46:09 PM
And if you decline, will Uncle Joe try to lay on the guilt trip?  "Don't you want Jeremiah to ever have any fun?  Do you hate all kids, or just Jerry?"

WE wouldn't hear about it, but everyone else in the family would.  "LadySnowdon is such a bad influence on LordSnowdon!  We sent out the wreath email to them, just like we always do, and they ended up not ordering anything!  Jeremiah was soooo disappointed; he was really looking forward to seeing them when he delivered the wreath and all." 
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: veronaz on October 23, 2013, 06:02:30 PM
MOM21SON - Question:  Has anyone complained to management?  (about the guy wanting to borrow $11k from coworkers)
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Jules1980 on October 23, 2013, 06:16:02 PM
I don't want to sound like a cynic but the idea of teen-aged 'missionaries' soliciting money to spend Spring Break in London sounds a bit fishy. 

Will they be teaming up with an established mission of their denomination in London?  If that's the case I could see contributing to the cause. 

Will they just be heading out to Speaker's Corner and spouting forth?  If that's the case the answer will be a resounding 'Nope'. 

We don't see it much these days but it used to be a common practice for seminary students to do street-corner preaching. The idea was that it helped them hone their sermon and personal interaction skills.  However, these were people of University age. 

For High School students it sounds more like a lark than anything else and could be outright dangerous.

My sister's college ministry group used to go to Daytona Beach and the like for Spring Break as missionaries.  They would offer a free tipsy taxi service and hand out bibles and tracts. If the people felt like talking about either of the two they did, and if they didn'tm they just got them safely back to their hotels. 
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Jules1980 on October 23, 2013, 06:47:44 PM

When I was about 20 or so, the boyfriend-at-the-time and I were walking down South Street in Philly when a couple of guys around our age asked for $5 for The United Negro Pizza Fund. The boyfriend was so amused by their wit and honesty he gave it to them. I don’t think they even really needed it, they just wanted some pizza.  ;D

They so would have gotten pizza money from me for that.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: kherbert05 on October 23, 2013, 06:56:03 PM
Got a card today! From my friend's son (he's 9 now), nice little thank you for his birthday gift (giftcard to a video game store), hand written (and made), except on the bottom there was a typed bit. "So, I asked for an iPad for my birthday, mom said no. I've put in the letter to Santa, but boy the elves have a hard time building those just right. So I'm asking for donations so I can buy one of my very own!", wait...did a 9 year old, who doesn't believe in Santa and hasn't since he was 6 (long story, drunk grandpa) just hit me up for cash to get an iPad? Seriously?

I called mom. According to mom he's been bugging her for an iPad for some time now and she's been saying no. Finally, sick of it, she decided he could "raise" the money by begging friends and family to give him "donations" so he can buy it himself. She was so proud of this plan! Apparenlty this will teach him budgeting skills. I think it teaches him begging skills.
This is so wrong, and it is easy to do the right way. My cousin J was saving for an Ipad. He did odd jobs, gave up school snacks and saved that money (he was 8) . So when I contacted his Mom about his birthday she told me several toys and that he was saving. I split what I would normally spend. I got him a smallish toy - because 8 you need some toys on your birthday. The rest of what I normally would spend was a check made out to Mom (so no problems cashing) with for J's Ipad on it. Come Christmas we heard that he had saved enough money - so he got Itunes cards.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: zyrs on October 24, 2013, 12:10:07 AM
One of DH's coworkers went crying to another coworker begging to borrow a credit card because her heat was going to be shut off.

She and her husband live way above their means are are financed so high above their head that they may never be out of debt.

Anyway she was given the credit card number.  When the bill arrived, guess what she bought?  A satellite radio subscription for her husband's work truck.  She then got highly offended when the woman who loaned the credit card cancelled the subscription.  After all, driving across the state means you can't always get good radio.  ::)

I'm going to have to question the wisdom of your DH's coworker who actually gave the credit card!

I second Goldilocks questioning of your co-workers wisdom.  I would have probably helped out the 'borrower' by telling them about emergency programs for keeping the heat on or maybe asking for the account number for the heat company.  But I would never give someone my credit card number.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Carotte on October 24, 2013, 05:56:29 AM
. But now...I'm hesitant. I know this idea is all mom, I know the typed note came from mom (he loves to hand write notes because it took him a long time to get legible hand writing, so it's huge he can do it now). But I don't want anyone getting the idea that this is a good idea.

Maybe try to instill some good work value in him (since it seems his mother isn't...) and tell him you'd help out if he does some odd jobs around?
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: Outdoor Girl on October 24, 2013, 08:24:11 AM
One of DH's coworkers went crying to another coworker begging to borrow a credit card because her heat was going to be shut off.

She and her husband live way above their means are are financed so high above their head that they may never be out of debt.

Anyway she was given the credit card number.  When the bill arrived, guess what she bought?  A satellite radio subscription for her husband's work truck.  She then got highly offended when the woman who loaned the credit card cancelled the subscription.  After all, driving across the state means you can't always get good radio.  ::)

I'm going to have to question the wisdom of your DH's coworker who actually gave the credit card!

I second Goldilocks questioning of your co-workers wisdom.  I would have probably helped out the 'borrower' by telling them about emergency programs for keeping the heat on or maybe asking for the account number for the heat company.  But I would never give someone my credit card number.

I have offered to help someone out when they say they can't pay X bill.  But I tell them to get me their account information and I'll pay the bill directly.  You'd be surprised how many, 'Oh, that's OK, I'll manage' responses you get after that.  I think I've only ever had to follow through on my offer once and I got paid back!
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: BeagleMommy on October 24, 2013, 02:28:00 PM
One of DH's coworkers went crying to another coworker begging to borrow a credit card because her heat was going to be shut off.

She and her husband live way above their means are are financed so high above their head that they may never be out of debt.

Anyway she was given the credit card number.  When the bill arrived, guess what she bought?  A satellite radio subscription for her husband's work truck.  She then got highly offended when the woman who loaned the credit card cancelled the subscription.  After all, driving across the state means you can't always get good radio.  ::)

I'm going to have to question the wisdom of your DH's coworker who actually gave the credit card!

I second Goldilocks questioning of your co-workers wisdom.  I would have probably helped out the 'borrower' by telling them about emergency programs for keeping the heat on or maybe asking for the account number for the heat company.  But I would never give someone my credit card number.

I have offered to help someone out when they say they can't pay X bill.  But I tell them to get me their account information and I'll pay the bill directly.  You'd be surprised how many, 'Oh, that's OK, I'll manage' responses you get after that.  I think I've only ever had to follow through on my offer once and I got paid back!

Funny thing is, she's never asked DH for money.  I think she knows he'd laugh at her.  She always manages to find at least one soft-hearted soul every year that she can bamboozle into giving her money.  One man asked for a statement showing where to send the payment and she started spluttering and stammering trying to avoid showing a bill.  She tends to wear out friendships very quickly.
Title: Re: What's the most outrageous you've ever been solicited money for?
Post by: veronaz on October 24, 2013, 02:40:02 PM
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I'm going to have to question the wisdom of your DH's coworker who actually gave the credit card!

This.


Very poor judgment.

First of all, utility shutoffs are never a surprise.  One sees those coming for months, and utility companies have various options to try to work something out.

Also, there are social service agencies that help with those situations.

What the woman did (getting satellite) was fraudulent, however, the co-worker willingly gave up her credit card.  Hope she learned a lesson.