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Title: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: 123sandy on November 18, 2013, 08:08:20 AM
When I make a sandwich I butter the bread then add the fillings. This is the way everybody in my family makes sandwiches/rolls. I assumed this was common but when chatting to someone about it they not only had never heard of buttering the bread, they found the idea disgusting!

So, do you butter your sandwich bread?
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: staceym on November 18, 2013, 08:10:21 AM
When I make a sandwich I butter the bread then add the fillings. This is the way everybody in my family makes sandwiches/rolls. I assumed this was common but when chatting to someone about it they not only had never heard of buttering the bread, they found the idea disgusting!

So, do you butter your sandwich bread?

you mean a sandwich that has lunch meat?  No, never put butter on a sandwich except if I'm making a grilled cheese.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Harriet Jones on November 18, 2013, 08:15:36 AM
No, I don't think it's a very "US" thing to do.  I've heard of it before, though...

Do you put any other condiment on the bread, like mayo or mustard?
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: 123sandy on November 18, 2013, 08:16:50 AM
When I make a sandwich I butter the bread then add the fillings. This is the way everybody in my family makes sandwiches/rolls. I assumed this was common but when chatting to someone about it they not only had never heard of buttering the bread, they found the idea disgusting!

So, do you butter your sandwich bread?

you mean a sandwich that has lunch meat?  No, never put butter on a sandwich except if I'm making a grilled cheese.

Yes, an untoasted sandwich with meat/cheese/salad etc.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Paper Roses on November 18, 2013, 08:17:17 AM
I had completely forgotten about it, but my mother did that!  As a child, I didn't like butter, so she didn't make my sandwiches that way and it just never occurred to me to do it - unless it's a hot sandwich, or the bread has been toasted.

Wow - blast from the past!
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: TaurusGirl on November 18, 2013, 08:17:48 AM
I butter the outside of the bread for grilled cheese, and the inside of the bread for a toasted BLT. Aside from those two, it's mustard only for me! (Unless it's turkey, then it's mayo and pepper).
:)
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: MariaE on November 18, 2013, 08:17:57 AM
I always did while growing up. After I moved away from home I don't always actually have butter in the house, so not any longer. I still think with butter is more luxurious though :)

Only a thin layer though - we have a concept in Denmark of "tooth butter" (=so thick a layer you can see tooth marks after taking a bite), and I find that utterly disgusting. Fortunately it's falling out of favour, but whenever my in-laws serve sandwiches I have to find a way to subtly remove half the butter before I can stomach taking a bite.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: marcel on November 18, 2013, 08:21:52 AM
I believe that it is not common in the US. For asfar as i know it is common in most European countries. Definitely in The Netherlands and i have seen it done in other countries as well.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Psychopoesie on November 18, 2013, 08:22:50 AM
 Most people I know butter* the bread when making sandwiches. With the exception of people who were on diets (and trying to reduce fat intake), I am struggling to think of anyone I know who doesn't. Bought sandwiches (at cafes, etc) are the same.

Australia's a big place, with lots of different food traditions, so maybe there are some people who don't. I just haven't met them. :)

*same term covers margarine as well as butter.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Lady Snowdon on November 18, 2013, 08:28:29 AM
I'd never heard of this growing up.  I found out about it when I went to London for a few weeks and ordered a chicken sandwich.  I was very startled to discover it was buttered, but absolutely loved it!  I normally don't make sandwiches at this time, but when I do, I put a very thin layer of butter (or margarine) on. 
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Redsoil on November 18, 2013, 08:33:35 AM
Not only buttered, but LOTS o' butter!  The whatever filling/topping I want (yes, including peanut butter on the butter).

A favourite - 1 slice white bread, stacks of butter spread on it, whack tomato sauce all over it.  Eat.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Psychopoesie on November 18, 2013, 08:36:07 AM
Not only buttered, but LOTS o' butter!  The whatever filling/topping I want (yes, including peanut butter on the butter).

A favourite - 1 slice white bread, stacks of butter spread on it, whack tomato sauce all over it.  Eat.

Yum. :)
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Margo on November 18, 2013, 08:38:04 AM
I'm in the UK and would say it is the norm here - certainly if you buy a pre-packaged sandwich it would have butter (well, usually margarine) .

My sister's in-laws don't - my BiL's parents are both old enough to have grown up during the war and have always operated on a 'butter OR jam' basis (which when fat was very strictly rationed would make sense) and they have never broken the habit.

We think my BiL is slightly odd for *not* having any butter on his toast-and-marmalade, he thinks we're slightly odd for having both.

I personally don't always use butter - it depends what kind of sandwich I'm making (I don't bother f I'm having something gloopy like jam or peanut butter.) but I would see it as a standard part of making a sandwich.

(PS - I don't want your tomaot sauce sandwich, - my favourite is fresh, crusty white bread, real butter, cold roast beef, tomato and little bit of wholegrain mustanrd. Pure bliss)
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Hmmmmm on November 18, 2013, 08:39:04 AM
Only butter my bread for sandwiches if making  one that will be grilled and I butter the outside.

Mustard or mayonaise is the preferred spreads for a standard sandwich.

I do remember my mom making tea sandwiches for showers that she'd use butter for but don't remember the type.

Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Virg on November 18, 2013, 08:39:14 AM
The only time I ever butter sandwich bread is for grilled cheese, to brown it properly.  Beyond that I've never put butter on a sandwich.

Virg
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Ampersand on November 18, 2013, 08:52:36 AM
I always thought that was the norm too. To the point that when I'm ordering a sandwich I automatically say "x filling, no butter please!" and about 20% of the time they'll butter it by mistake anyway.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: MommyPenguin on November 18, 2013, 08:53:40 AM
I've read it in books, but never known anybody who does it in person.  I'm in the U.S., so yes, perhaps it's not really an American thing, but done elsewhere?
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: cabbagegirl28 on November 18, 2013, 08:59:58 AM
I used to eat butter and cheese sandwiches when I was really little, but the thought of eating butter on my sandwich now (besides using it for grilled cheese) kinda makes me queasy.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Twik on November 18, 2013, 09:05:49 AM
Butter keeps the bread from becoming soggy if you use a moist filling. (Kitchen tip from my mom)
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: turtleIScream on November 18, 2013, 09:21:56 AM
I am from the US - Midwest. As a kid, I always buttered my sandwiches; I much preferred that to mayo, mustard, or ketchup. I now prefer mayo, but will occasionally use butter instead. And in our house, toast with jam has to be buttered first.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Yvaine on November 18, 2013, 09:26:31 AM
Only if I'm toasting the bread for the sandwich, because the butter makes the toast softer. If I'm making a sandwich of cold fillings on cold bread, no. That said, when eating a sandwich "out," a lot of times the roll/bun/whatever comes buttered.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Hillia on November 18, 2013, 09:27:05 AM
I remember my grandmother (born 1905) buttering sandwiches instead of using mayo/mustard.  A salami sandwich with butter stands out in my mind!  She was raised by her Irish immigrant grandparents, and always lived on a farm - sounds like butter is a common sandwich condiment in some places, plus her grandfather was a notoriously cheap man, who would never have gone for buying condiments at the store when they had plenty of butter right there, and would not have been OK at all with using valuable eggs to make mayonnaise.  Wasn't mayonnaise considered a 'luxury' sauce in the early 1900's?
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Outdoor Girl on November 18, 2013, 09:28:41 AM
Mustard will dry out the bread if you aren't eating the sandwich right away.  So if I'm packing a sandwich, I'll butter the piece of bread that the mustard goes on to keep it from drying out.

I'll put butter on one piece of bread, mayo or Miracle Whip on the other for a turkey sandwich.  Along with some cranberry orange relish.  Yum!

If whatever I'm putting on the bread is somewhat spreadable, I don't use any butter - peanut butter, egg salad.  But if it is lunchmeat, I'll sometimes butter one piece of bread.  If the bread is really fresh, I don't bother.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: mime on November 18, 2013, 09:38:27 AM
My grandparents (born just before 1900 in the Midwest US with strong ties to their Norwegian roots, if any of that helps explain anything) put butter on bread before making anything. In fact, they put butter on other bread-like products before adding fillings or meat: hamburger/hot dogs, crackers, pastries/sweet rolls, lefse...

My parents did it a little-- I remember it on our PB&J sandwiches, but my brother and I don't do it at all. I think he and I were grossed out by butter on our hot dogs.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: siamesecat2965 on November 18, 2013, 09:43:36 AM
Not only buttered, but LOTS o' butter!  The whatever filling/topping I want (yes, including peanut butter on the butter).

 

My father used to do this with peanut butter, and did the "tooth butter" as described above. It honestly made my stomach turn. The only time I put any butter on sandwiches is on the outside, if i'm making grilled cheese. But never inside.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Lynnv on November 18, 2013, 09:44:08 AM
Not unless it is a toasted sandwich (grilled cheese, etc).  Most of my non PB&J sandwiches get mustard.

I did read about the practice in a book when I was a kid and tried it.  With PB&J it is fine, but it doesn't make enough difference to me that I am willing to bother.  I don't much like it with savory sandwiches that aren't being grilled.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: starry diadem on November 18, 2013, 09:51:49 AM
When I make a sandwich I butter the bread then add the fillings. This is the way everybody in my family makes sandwiches/rolls. I assumed this was common but when chatting to someone about it they not only had never heard of buttering the bread, they found the idea disgusting!

So, do you butter your sandwich bread?

Of course. It's the only way to make a sandwich.  :D

I wouldn't add butter to something like a tuna mayonnaise sandwich, but a standard ham or cheese or chicken? You betcha.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Luci on November 18, 2013, 09:59:22 AM
I am English-Irish ancestery - no butter on the inside of the sandwich, even though my mom was raised on a dairy farm.

Lucas is Swiss-German - buttered the inside.

He is one of four children, and now there is only one of them that asks for butter when I make a meal of soup and sandwich, and the only person I know who asks, no matter how they were raised. We are now in our 60s and 70s.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: newbiePA on November 18, 2013, 10:00:37 AM
The first place I saw this was when traveling in the UK.  I am from the NE U.S., and currently live in the south.  My parents are first generation immigrants, Italy and India.  I do butter the outside of grilled cheese, before cooking.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: TootsNYC on November 18, 2013, 10:03:50 AM
The texture of the topping and the choice of bread greatly affects whether I butter or not. I like butter for adding moisture to sandwiches, and in some instances, I don't think you need it.

I butter toast under peanut butter (I didn't use to, but I've started recently). I don't butter bread under peanut butter.

I apply mayo on bread under meat; I apply butter on toast under meat.

I had heard of putting butter under peanut butter on bread, but it has always seemed silly to me.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: #borecore on November 18, 2013, 10:06:50 AM
The idea of peanut butter with butter makes my stomach turn. No thanks!

I do not butter bread unless I'm having plain toast or cinnamon toast or garlic toast. Sometimes I even just toast my bread unbuttered for "grilled cheese."


I don't much like condiments, though I'll add mustard if it's not the bright yellow stuff and is on a sandwich that compliments it, and I might add hummus or another thick spread (avocado is all I can think of at the moment) sometimes.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: rose red on November 18, 2013, 10:07:15 AM
I've never done this and don't know anyone who does this.  Although I don't ask what others put on their sandwich so maybe I do know people who do this ;D.  I'm not a big fan of butter anyway, except maybe on baked potatoes and corn.  I don't even butter rolls or toast.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: nutraxfornerves on November 18, 2013, 10:18:19 AM
I once looked up the US preference for mayonnaise over butter on sandwiches. Adapted from a post of mine on another forum--

The core spread is often mayonnaise, although not usually with peanut butter. (When I was a teenager, I had a job as a daytime babysitter for a family. One kid wanted peanut butter & mayonnaise sandwiches for lunch every day.) Mustard runs second. A 2011 survey (admittedly sponsored by a mayonnaise company), found that "When it comes to condiments, nearly two in three (61 percent) would choose mayo over mustard (22 percent) or oil and vinegar (8 percent) if they could only use one type of condiment on their sandwiches for the rest of their lives."

I think that mayo as a sandwich spread is a relatively new thing. My older cookbooks, such as the 1940's Joy of Cooking,almost always call for butter. The The Oxford Companion to American Food and Drink says that butter was the most common sandwich spread until the early 20th Century, when commercial mayo, which was a lot more stable than homemade, became available and affordable.

My old cookbooks talk about butter being used to keep filling from soaking into the bread. However, the fillings weren't meat and cheese. The sandwiches are more of the dainty "tea" variety, with fillings like cucumber or watercress or fish paste or jam. The Oxford book says that the invention of commercial pre-sliced bread stimulated the idea sandwiches as a kids lunch--the kids could slap some boloney on bread slathered with mustard or mayo, without having to go near a sharp knife. An easy-to-make and portable lunch was also popular with workers, who were increasingly unable to go home for a hot lunch.

Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Ms_Cellany on November 18, 2013, 10:20:56 AM
As a kid, I made sandwiches of peanut butter, butter, and honey.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: zyrs on November 18, 2013, 10:25:36 AM
Butter keeps the bread from becoming soggy if you use a moist filling. (Kitchen tip from my mom)

This - have always buttered the bread first.  Grew up in the Pacific Northwest, so maybe it's regional.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Kaypeep on November 18, 2013, 10:44:07 AM
I'm from the US but when I went to London I noticed the buttered bread for sandwiches thing, and it didn't bother me.  I've taken to doing it myself here, but it depends on the sandwich.  I like ham and cheese with butter, or chicken cutlet sandwiches with melted cheese and butter.  I'll then sprinkle some garlic salt on the butter for that one.  Turkey and cheese is also good with butter, but not if I'm putting lettuce and tomato on it.  Then I go for mayo.  For italian meat sandwiches (salami, capicolla, etc.) I skip spreads and just put roasted peppers on them, for moisture and to balance the salt in the meat.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Pen^2 on November 18, 2013, 11:02:30 AM
If I'm making a sandwich with a soggy filling, like chili con carne (don't judge me!), then I'll butter the bread because it helps maintain structural integrity so the bread won't fall apart. It depends on the filling. For something like lettuce, tomato, and ham, though, I'll often not bother, unless I'm in the mood for that specific taste. This is more because I'm lazy than anything else. DH prefers it buttered, though, so if I'm making sandwiches for both of us, then I'll butter at least one.

I once had vegemite without butter and it was horrid. It really depends on the filling and your taste preferences.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: guihong on November 18, 2013, 11:16:51 AM
Maybe this is a stupid question, but is there a difference between mayo and Miracle Whip?

I love a thick PB & J, but I'm not fond of butter itself.  My mom would make BLT's but without butter. 

I do remember how she made fancy little cucumber sandwiches with some kind of butter or spread, then trimmed off the crusts.  Somehow, she could peel and cut the cucumbers into pretty shapes as well. 
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Outdoor Girl on November 18, 2013, 11:28:02 AM
Maybe this is a stupid question, but is there a difference between mayo and Miracle Whip?

Are you trying to start a war?   ;D

Proponents for one or the other tend to hold very strongly to their opinions.

I'm a Miracle Whip girl for the very few times I use something like that.  I find it has more flavour.  But mayo is less processed, when you read the label - less chemically things in it.  It is mostly just eggs and oil, I think.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Yvaine on November 18, 2013, 11:29:29 AM
Maybe this is a stupid question, but is there a difference between mayo and Miracle Whip?

Yes, and each has its devoted adherents.  ;D Miracle Whip is sweeter, IMO, which is either good or bad depending on what you like.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: EMuir on November 18, 2013, 11:35:10 AM
Western Canada here, and every sandwich has butter on the inside, except for grilled cheese, where it's on the outside.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Hillia on November 18, 2013, 11:35:52 AM
The Oatmeal has a pretty definite, pretty gross opinion that is firmly in the mayonnaise camp.

My understanding is that real mayo contains eggs, so it must be refrigerated after opening.  Miracle Whip or generic 'salad dressing' does not, so it can be stored in the cupboard.  I prefer mayo, which to me has a creamier, more savory taste.  Miracle Whip does have a definite mild bite to it, a little more tangy.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: daen on November 18, 2013, 11:46:08 AM
At this point in my life, I prefer mayo in my sandwiches. Toasted sandwiches may be buttered on one side, but not always. Toast is buttered unless peanut butter is involved.

There are some people I know who are firmly in the "one spread per bread" camp, so one chooses either butter or jam for one's toast.

I've been on three tours where I was billeted in someone's home for the night, and mine host provided a bag lunch for the next day. The variety of sandwich-making protocols is surprising. My best billet, hands down, interviewed me the night before to ask exactly how many sandwiches I wanted, and how to build them: white/brown/rye bread? dinner roll? turkey, roast beef, or bologna? mustard/mayo/butter/ketchup? I think the only thing she didn't ask was if I preferred the sandwich cut vertically, horizontally, or on the diagonal.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Jones on November 18, 2013, 11:50:49 AM
I have never had a sandwich with butter, unless it was grilled, and even then I generally use the Pam spray to get an even color instead.

I tend to skimp on sandwich dressings, all the way around, though. Spicy mustard OR mayo, OR Muracle Whip, and just a lite spread of whatever it is anyway.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: MindsEye on November 18, 2013, 12:03:01 PM
Butter keeps the bread from becoming soggy if you use a moist filling. (Kitchen tip from my mom)

This!  This is how my Mom used to make my sandwiches when I was in grade school.  Butter the bread (butter inside) and fill with cheese, onions, meat, and lettuce.  I haven't had a sandwich like that in years... I am not much of a sandwich person these days...

I was born in (and grew up in and currently live in) the US Midwest.  Ohio, to be specific.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: DragonKitty on November 18, 2013, 12:44:11 PM
Growing up, we used to get butter with jam on it, or more common, butter with sugared cinnamon on our bread or toast.

I've heard of the 'spread to prevent moisture leeching into the bread" thing.

I grew up with Kraft's Mayo, and could not stand the taste.  Still don't, but when other brands finally became available in our area, I had to admit to my husband that I liked the other brands taste.  But I still tend away from mayo, and am staunchly in favor of mustard, almost any kind of it, even the yellow stuff.  We do have a wasabi mustard that is really good.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: JenJay on November 18, 2013, 12:50:38 PM
My grandmother made the most delicious PB&Js with homemade strawberry freezer jam, peanut butter and butter. I've never been able to replicate them.

Other than that, unless I'm grilling it, I've never buttered a sandwich. I LOVE butter so I may just try it!
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: jaxsue on November 18, 2013, 12:53:25 PM
Growing up, we put margarine (vile stuff, don't touch it now!) and mayo on the bread before putting the meat on it. We got a lot of ribbing for that. Now I only use mustard, to save calories/fat.

I was raised in the upper midwest, but my parents are English Canadian. Could that be why we were different from the people around us?
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: jaxsue on November 18, 2013, 12:54:19 PM
As a kid, I made sandwiches of peanut butter, butter, and honey.

I had those sandwiches, too. Delicious!  8)
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: jaxsue on November 18, 2013, 12:55:37 PM
My grandmother made the most delicious PB&Js with homemade strawberry freezer jam, peanut butter and butter. I've never been able to replicate them.

Other than that, unless I'm grilling it, I've never buttered a sandwich. I LOVE butter so I may just try it!

Have you tried grilling a PB&J, like you do a grilled cheese? It's really good!
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: daen on November 18, 2013, 12:59:21 PM
*sigh* Now I want a sandwich, and there's no bread in the house...
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: nutraxfornerves on November 18, 2013, 01:06:05 PM
Miracle Whip was developed by Kraft in the 1930s, as a less expensive alternative to mayo. It was also marketed as a stand-alone salad dressing. It got its name from a fancy emulsifying machine.

The primary difference between Miracle Whip & commercial mayo is that MW contains sugar and corn syrup, vinegar,  and other flavorings to make it sweet & tangy. (Right now, Kraft is advertising it as "sweet and loud.")  Both contain eggs and oil, usually soybean, but may has a higher amount of eggs.

In the US, Miracle Whip vs. mayo arguments can reach the proportions of Marmite vs. Vegemite.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Outdoor Girl on November 18, 2013, 01:11:02 PM
Growing up, we put margarine (vile stuff, don't touch it now!) and mayo on the bread before putting the meat on it. We got a lot of ribbing for that. Now I only use mustard, to save calories/fat.

I was raised in the upper midwest, but my parents are English Canadian. Could that be why we were different from the people around us?

I don't think so - mayo isn't that common in my circles and I live near where your parents are from, I think.  Margarine was common - butter used to be much more expensive, comparatively, than margarine.

For the longest time, my parents bought smuggled margarine.  Smuggled in from Quebec.  In Ontario, it couldn't be 'butter' coloured; it had to be left white or coloured really darkly.  But Quebec didn't have those laws.  And since we were often in the Ottawa valley, visiting family, we'd load up and freeze it.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Amara on November 18, 2013, 01:59:33 PM
My mom always buttered her sandwiches but once I hit my pre-teen years I let her know I didn't want butter on it. My sole exception is buttering the outside of grilled cheese sandwiches for grilling.

As for Miracle Whip, Mom used that on coleslaw rather than mayonnaise. I preferred the vinegary tang of it in the salad but now I don't use it since I don't particularly like either of those two in coleslaw. Too sweet for my taste.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: blue2000 on November 18, 2013, 02:01:37 PM
I always did while growing up. After I moved away from home I don't always actually have butter in the house, so not any longer. I still think with butter is more luxurious though :)

Only a thin layer though - we have a concept in Denmark of "tooth butter" (=so thick a layer you can see tooth marks after taking a bite), and I find that utterly disgusting. Fortunately it's falling out of favour, but whenever my in-laws serve sandwiches I have to find a way to subtly remove half the butter before I can stomach taking a bite.

I need to move to Denmark. I'm drooling!

I don't have butter in the house, and don't make a lot of sandwiches, but I would have no problem with adding it. I love butter.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: KimberlyM on November 18, 2013, 04:58:22 PM
Butter keeps the bread from becoming soggy if you use a moist filling. (Kitchen tip from my mom)

This - have always buttered the bread first.  Grew up in the Pacific Northwest, so maybe it's regional.

Pacific NW here too...never heard of buttering a sandwich until I opened this thread.  I use mustard, the yellow kind, on everything.  HATE mayo and miracle whip, and use ketchup only to dip fries in. 

I use to make sandwiches as a kid (when my mom was out, it would never have passed her!) with butter and sugar and cinnamon.  Occasionally toast with butter and that powdered hot cocoa mix stuff. But that's the closest I ever came and it was mostly a result of growing up in a house with no sugar. My bro was hyperactive and my mom is allergic to white flour and sugar. 
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: TootsNYC on November 18, 2013, 05:02:41 PM
Maybe this is a stupid question, but is there a difference between mayo and Miracle Whip?

Yes, and each has its devoted adherents.  ;D Miracle Whip is sweeter, IMO, which is either good or bad depending on what you like.

I find Miracle Whip to be softer, less able to hold a dollop shape, for example.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: Thipu1 on November 18, 2013, 05:11:16 PM
My mother always buttered the bread when she made sandwiches.  This is probably because, when she made sandwiches, they were intended to be eaten a few hours later.  Without butter as a gasket of sorts, fresh tomato sandwiches would soon become pitiful, little inedible pink lumps.   

We don't butter the bread when we make sandwiches.  Depending on the filling, we do spread mayonnaise, mustard or ketchup on the bread. 
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: MrsJWine on November 18, 2013, 05:15:21 PM
Seems pretty normal to me. I always do it. I admit, I'm kind of a butter fanatic, but growing up, this was how it was always done--not just within my family, but with church potlucks and funerals and neighborhood gatherings.
Title: Re: I thought everyone did it this way...
Post by: kherbert05 on November 18, 2013, 05:46:02 PM
Canadian Family does - and they largely kept the butter they were using in a covered container in the pantry.*

Texas Family does not butter is kept in the refrigerator and is not very spreadable unless put out ahead of time to soften. Mom (Canadian) changed her habits after moving south. In part because she was worried about the sandwich spoiling in the heat. The exception was jelly sandwiches they always had soft butter on them - but we weren't allowed them for school lunches. School lunches had mustard or were dry.

*The habit of putting butter on bread before putting filling or other spreads on bread led to Notes being posted while I visited (every 2 to 3 years)  that said "DO NOT MIX PEANUT BUTTER AND BUTTER". This was after my parents had to snatch the butter way from me or get me a brand new plate of food because they realized that Uncle/Aunt/Nanna had used the same knife for butter and peanut butter just wiping it clean in between. I'm used to not being able to eat jelly at other people's house because of the wipe the knife use it again thing but butter just wasn't on my radar as a kid.
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on November 18, 2013, 06:04:23 PM
I love butter on bread to the point where I love a slice of fresh bread and butter.

People don't butter sandwiches? ???
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Post by: katycoo on November 18, 2013, 06:13:44 PM
yes - its the norm in Australia.  When my family lived in America we noticed mayo was more common.  This was distressing when eating at other peoples homes as I didn't like mayo then...
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Post by: kckgirl on November 18, 2013, 06:21:55 PM
I use butter on turkey sandwiches. I absolutely hate hate hate mayonnaise, and my mother added butter because she thought the sandwiches made with leftover turkey would be too dry. That's the only sandwich with butter in my kitchen.

Ham gets mustard (or just cheese, lettuce, and tomato). If I was going to grill the bread (like some hamburger joints do), I would probably butter the roll first.
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on November 18, 2013, 06:28:51 PM
Mayo can be a bit iffy if it's not store brought. The risk of listeria and salmonella is rather significant in raw eggs.

A lot of places are being gourmet by making their own mayonnaise. This is annoying, IMHO , I can't have raw eggs.
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Post by: Mergatroyd on November 18, 2013, 07:38:36 PM
Bread and butter is yummy, and even more so when it has jam on top! As for sandwiches I will put miracle whip on instead of butter if it is something like crab or fish. My kids love peanut butter and honey, with butter on the honey side. 
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Post by: zainabzks on November 18, 2013, 07:39:54 PM
I used to eat butter and sugar sandwiches as a kid. I loved them! This thread brings back sweet memories. :)
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Post by: Julian on November 18, 2013, 08:18:19 PM
I love a little bread on my butter!   ;)
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Post by: Promise on November 18, 2013, 09:41:07 PM
I butter the outside of bread for grilled sandwiches, but that's about it. I do butter bread for toast or if I want a butter and jelly sandwich - which again is usually tossed bread first. For meat, I use mayo, hummus, Miracle Whip and sometimes I'll use cream cheese with turkey.
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Post by: daen on November 18, 2013, 10:04:11 PM
I butter the outside of bread for grilled sandwiches, but that's about it. I do butter bread for toast or if I want a butter and jelly sandwich - which again is usually tossed bread first. For meat, I use mayo, hummus, Miracle Whip and sometimes I'll use cream cheese with turkey.

Ooh... cream cheese, turkey, and cranberry sauce sandwiches.
(Darn it, I'm craving sandwiches again. And there's still no bread in the house.)
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Post by: Bijou on November 18, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
I thought that was done when you want to keep something from soaking into the bread.  I like it either way.  Sometimes I just like butter and the filling or just mayo and the filling.  Or just bread and butter.
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Post by: sammycat on November 19, 2013, 03:58:22 AM
I love butter on bread to the point where I love a slice of fresh bread and butter.

People don't butter sandwiches? ???

Dittto. Australia/NZ born and raised here.

I'd never heard of (or seen) bread/sandwiches without butter or margarine until this thread. I just can't imagine it....
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Post by: sammycat on November 19, 2013, 03:59:24 AM
Most people I know butter* the bread when making sandwiches. With the exception of people who were on diets (and trying to reduce fat intake), I am struggling to think of anyone I know who doesn't. Bought sandwiches (at cafes, etc) are the same.

Australia's a big place, with lots of different food traditions, so maybe there are some people who don't. I just haven't met them. :)

*same term covers margarine as well as butter.

Me either.
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Post by: cicero on November 19, 2013, 04:33:11 AM
I don't ever have butter in the house unless i need for baking and then i'll buy one package (otherwise i'll just eat and eat and eat toast and butter). I never buy margerine anymore.

Growing up, we used to use margerine on sandwiches (like for cheese or sliced egg) but not for meat sandwiches (those got mayo or mustard). since then, i've branched out to other types of spreads like roasted tomatoe or tapanade so I will use those or mustard, not butter or marg
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Post by: Brisvegasgal on November 19, 2013, 05:35:18 AM
My husband's family butter EVERY kind of sandwich. Peanut butter, Vegemite (blergh), jam, marmalade, salad...yes I said salad, cheese, baked bean, you name it & they'll butter it.  I even saw one of them put butter on an avocado sandwich! Oh, and they put butter on certain types of cake.

I don't get it...I guess my Mum didn't like butter much so I think it's odd to butter everything.
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Post by: Psychopoesie on November 19, 2013, 05:45:53 AM
My husband's family butter EVERY kind of sandwich. Peanut butter, Vegemite (blergh), jam, marmalade, salad...yes I said salad, cheese, baked bean, you name it & they'll butter it.  I even saw one of them put butter on an avocado sandwich! Oh, and they put butter on certain types of cake.

I don't get it...I guess my Mum didn't like butter much so I think it's odd to butter everything.

I can't imagine eating a vegemite sandwich (and especially toast) without buttering it. I would butter most of the sandwich types mentioned.

Do tend to skip with peanut butter because it's so buttery to begin with.

I also butter some cakes, usually plainer ones like fruitcakes or banana bread, not chocolate or carrot cake.

Surprised that others don't but everyone has different tastes.

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Post by: CakeEater on November 19, 2013, 05:52:45 AM
I'm Australian, and generally don't butter my sandwiches, but I'm definitely in the minority among my circle.

I do margarine, not butter, jam sandwiches.

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Post by: sammycat on November 19, 2013, 06:22:52 AM
My husband's family butter EVERY kind of sandwich. Peanut butter, Vegemite (blergh), jam, marmalade, salad...yes I said salad, cheese, baked bean, you name it & they'll butter it.  I even saw one of them put butter on an avocado sandwich! Oh, and they put butter on certain types of cake.

I don't get it...I guess my Mum didn't like butter much so I think it's odd to butter everything.

Seems 100% normal to me.
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Post by: BB-VA on November 19, 2013, 06:38:31 AM
I have a friend who lives in the midwest and whose mother was from Cornwall.  He butters bread on sandwiches and rarely uses mayonnaise.   My family, OTOH, here in the south, uses lots of mayo.  My father used to add mayo to peanut butter and banana sandwiches - he said it kept the peanut butter from sticking to the roof of his mouth.
 
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Post by: iridaceae on November 19, 2013, 07:01:34 AM
Butter goes between the bread and the jelly/jam so the bread doesn't get soggy. I grew up with buttered sandwiches.
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Post by: veryfluffy on November 19, 2013, 07:35:18 AM
Just the idea of butter on a sandwich with meat in it makes me queasy.

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Post by: LadyL on November 19, 2013, 08:02:16 AM
Just the idea of butter on a sandwich with meat in it makes me queasy.

Yeah, I love my condiments, but something about the greasy/fatty texture of butter reminds me too much of when meat goes bad and gets slimy. I don't mind mayo, mustard, etc. because they have a different texture.
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Post by: Thipu1 on November 19, 2013, 08:39:47 AM
Just the idea of butter on a sandwich with meat in it makes me queasy.

Me too.  However, in my parent's generation butter was considered something that children needed.  It was thought to help build strength. 

When I was growing up, it was not unusual to see people buttering steaks. 
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Post by: Teenyweeny on November 19, 2013, 08:57:05 AM
I don't think I'd be exaggarating if I said that 99% of people in the UK use butter/margarine on sandwiches.

The only exception I can think of would be Jewish people keeping kosher, or people who are watching their diet very carefully. Even the vegans I know use vegan-friendly margarine! Actually, Jewish folk here probably use that too.

There must be some people here who don't out of preference, but I have literally never met them. Of course, mayo is much less common here. 

How can you have a chip butty without butter? Answer: you can't, because that would be a travesty.


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Post by: SamiHami on November 19, 2013, 09:33:54 AM
Someone's mom gave me a peanut butter sandwich with butter on it when I was a kid. I didn't really like it. Otherwise, as others have said, butter only goes on a sandwich if it's on the outside of the bread, in preparation of a grilled cheese sandwich.

All this talk of condiments...anyone else have sandiwches made of peanut butter and that marshmallow fluff stuff? I can't remember the brand name of it now, but I loved those as a kid. Didn't get them very often because they weren't exactly healthy, but they were yummm!
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Post by: English1 on November 19, 2013, 10:01:20 AM
UK here - and yes, we nearly all use butter or margarine in all our sandwiches.

I know of one person who doesn't - an ex work colleague. And we all thought she was a pain in the you know what as we'd take it in turns to go fetch lunch and had to faff about with special 'no butter' instructions for her sandwich.

And how do you eat a sandwich without butter without it all falling apart? It's what sticks the fillings to the bread... do you just have the bread dry or replace the butter with something else? If it's mayo etc - um, well, we normally have the butter PLUS the mayo (I can hear you all retching from here, lol).
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Post by: #borecore on November 19, 2013, 10:41:58 AM
Someone's mom gave me a peanut butter sandwich with butter on it when I was a kid. I didn't really like it. Otherwise, as others have said, butter only goes on a sandwich if it's on the outside of the bread, in preparation of a grilled cheese sandwich.

All this talk of condiments...anyone else have sandiwches made of peanut butter and that marshmallow fluff stuff? I can't remember the brand name of it now, but I loved those as a kid. Didn't get them very often because they weren't exactly healthy, but they were yummm!

That'd be a fluffernutter.
I recently moved to the Land of Fluf(f), but I still can't stomach the idea of eating them.

The good news here is that reading about buttered sandwiches has literally made me lose my appetite (and I didn't pack much of a lunch today). Every time I think about a cold, buttered sandwich I get a little sick.
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Post by: Jones on November 19, 2013, 11:00:53 AM
UK here - and yes, we nearly all use butter or margarine in all our sandwiches.

I know of one person who doesn't - an ex work colleague. And we all thought she was a pain in the you know what as we'd take it in turns to go fetch lunch and had to faff about with special 'no butter' instructions for her sandwich.

And how do you eat a sandwich without butter without it all falling apart? It's what sticks the fillings to the bread... do you just have the bread dry or replace the butter with something else? If it's mayo etc - um, well, we normally have the butter PLUS the mayo (I can hear you all retching from here, lol).

I don't know...I've never had a sandwich fall apart on me, unless it had too many fillings inside, and the bread held but the fillings fell out. Now I am wondering if the consistency of bread is different between countries? Currently I use a name brand multi grain, but I grew up on white store generic bread (and a lot more condiments than I currently use...though never butter unless it was a slice of toast by itself, or grilled).

I always thought the bread was just there to keep my fingers from getting messy while eating the meat, tomatoes etc. The slight condiments I use now don't affect the texture much, as I mentioned earlier I am very light handed on the condiments.
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Post by: jaxsue on November 19, 2013, 11:34:59 AM
Growing up, we put margarine (vile stuff, don't touch it now!) and mayo on the bread before putting the meat on it. We got a lot of ribbing for that. Now I only use mustard, to save calories/fat.

I was raised in the upper midwest, but my parents are English Canadian. Could that be why we were different from the people around us?

I don't think so - mayo isn't that common in my circles and I live near where your parents are from, I think.  Margarine was common - butter used to be much more expensive, comparatively, than margarine.

For the longest time, my parents bought smuggled margarine.  Smuggled in from Quebec.  In Ontario, it couldn't be 'butter' coloured; it had to be left white or coloured really darkly.  But Quebec didn't have those laws.  And since we were often in the Ottawa valley, visiting family, we'd load up and freeze it.

My dad's from Toronto and my mom's from Collingwood (ON). I remember watching my grandma mix the white oleo with a yellow powder to make it look more butter-like.  :)
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Post by: SamiHami on November 19, 2013, 11:37:22 AM
Someone's mom gave me a peanut butter sandwich with butter on it when I was a kid. I didn't really like it. Otherwise, as others have said, butter only goes on a sandwich if it's on the outside of the bread, in preparation of a grilled cheese sandwich.

All this talk of condiments...anyone else have sandiwches made of peanut butter and that marshmallow fluff stuff? I can't remember the brand name of it now, but I loved those as a kid. Didn't get them very often because they weren't exactly healthy, but they were yummm!

That'd be a fluffernutter.
I recently moved to the Land of Fluf(f), but I still can't stomach the idea of eating them.

The good news here is that reading about buttered sandwiches has literally made me lose my appetite (and I didn't pack much of a lunch today). Every time I think about a cold, buttered sandwich I get a little sick.


Fluffernutter! That's it!

I doubt that I could eat one now, but when I was eight? Yumminess!
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Post by: Hmmmmm on November 19, 2013, 01:53:21 PM
UK here - and yes, we nearly all use butter or margarine in all our sandwiches.

I know of one person who doesn't - an ex work colleague. And we all thought she was a pain in the you know what as we'd take it in turns to go fetch lunch and had to faff about with special 'no butter' instructions for her sandwich.

And how do you eat a sandwich without butter without it all falling apart? It's what sticks the fillings to the bread... do you just have the bread dry or replace the butter with something else? If it's mayo etc - um, well, we normally have the butter PLUS the mayo (I can hear you all retching from here, lol).

My preference for most standard meat/cheese sandwiches is to have mustard on one slice of bread and mayo on the other side. Meat goes next to the mustard, then cheese if using, then lettuce or other greens and topped with the mayo coated piece of bread. I've not had problems with the sandwich falling apart.  My kids and DH don't like mayo so their's is mustard on both sides.

If eating something like a chicken or egg salad sandwhich, I only use mayo on the bread or none at all if the filling is pretty wet.

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Post by: IslandMama on November 19, 2013, 03:02:09 PM
Another Australian here - I butter every sandwich except a peanut butter sandwich.  I'm not a mayo fan at all... I don't even like it when salads have mayo in them.  My potato salad uses either natural yoghurt or sour cream instead of mayo.  :)  And my favourite sandwich would be just disgusting with mayo... you definitely need butter with a banana sandwich.  Plus, can anyone imagine fairy bread done with mayo?  :D

For those that don't know, fairy bread is usually white bread, buttered and covered with 100s and 1000s - non pareils - and cut into triangles.  The ultimate party food for little kids and big kids.  Pirate bread is done using chocolate sprinkles.  ;)
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Post by: #borecore on November 19, 2013, 03:06:03 PM
Butter and banana sandwich ... I can picture it (if I squint really hard)--but I can't picture eating it! :)
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Post by: menley on November 19, 2013, 03:16:12 PM
My mom used to always butter the bread for my sandwiches and I hated it! I thought I didn't like sandwich meatů turns out I like it just fine if butter isn't involved ;)

When I went to France on a study abroad, my friends and I were (unpleasantly) surprised the first time we bought baguette sandwiches and bit into a huge chunk of butter. It was basically a giant ball of butter in the middle. Bleh.
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Post by: Jones on November 19, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
Butter and banana sandwich ... I can picture it (if I squint really hard)--but I can't picture eating it! :)
Peanut butter and banana, I have eaten and find delicious. DH disagrees vehemently with me.
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Post by: Blondie on November 19, 2013, 03:28:53 PM
Growing up in NYC and later on Long Island, I would say that I have never seen the default to put butter on a sandwich. I suppose you could ask, but I am not sure all delis would have it readily available and you would most likely get a raised eyebrow for the request. I did not know this when I went to the UK, and I found butter made the sandwich way too sweet and a little greasy for my taste. Granted, I am also pretty much a condiment hater on sandwiches in general, so I am forever having to ask for them sans mayo, which to my taste buds is far far worse than a small slick of butter ever could be. Don't even ask about mustard...

For the record, I have never had a sandwich fall apart on me due to the lack of condiment of any sort- perhaps our deli meats are different?
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on November 19, 2013, 03:31:15 PM
I love tea cake buttered on both sides and I will butter the bread I put in my soup. I also butter toasted pear and raspberry loaf I get from Starbucks.

But I will have a blue berry bagel with cream cheese, no butter. But I'm told that we butter our bagels on the wrong side. It's normally cut in half and the cream cheese is in the middle.
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Post by: mrs_deb on November 19, 2013, 03:52:23 PM
Thanks to all of you, I made myself a sandwich for lunch today (leftover pork chop, cheese, lettuce, and onion), and I BUTTERED THE ROLL.

It was yummy!  :-)
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Post by: BB-VA on November 19, 2013, 08:54:49 PM

Peanut butter and banana, I have eaten and find delicious. DH disagrees vehemently with me.

I prefer it to PBJ.  The little baby bananas you see in the stores are just right for a sandwich - just slice lengthwise in thirds.
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Post by: Chelsealady on November 19, 2013, 09:46:29 PM
Does anybody else use mayo instead of butter on the outside of a grilled cheese? My step-dad taught us to do it and now for years I've done it that way.
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Post by: Elfmama on November 19, 2013, 10:10:10 PM
Maybe this is a stupid question, but is there a difference between mayo and Miracle Whip?

Yes, and each has its devoted adherents.  ;D Miracle Whip is sweeter, IMO, which is either good or bad depending on what you like.
And the "lite" Miracle Whip has started using artificial sweeteners in it. (http://www3.telus.net/smile/images/bleh.gif)  So until DH eats all of the jar that is already open, or we throw it out because it has finally gone past its expiration date, I'm buttering my sandwiches.
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Post by: crella on November 19, 2013, 10:10:26 PM
My granddad was the third generation of his family in Boston from England (born 1900), and he buttered his sandwiches. The other side of the family did not.


Edited to add-I love Kewpie Japanese mayo, I travel with it  :D
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Post by: Sahaira on November 19, 2013, 10:13:01 PM
American Midwesterner with Swedish and German roots. Butter (or margarine, I'm OK with both) on sliced meat sandwiches only, mostly because I can't stand mayo or mustard. I don't care for butter and jam, but my parents eat it that way. I wish Subway offered butter for their sandwiches!

I could go for the "tooth butter" every now and then, but not always.
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Post by: Library Dragon on November 19, 2013, 10:25:31 PM
Another Australian here - I butter every sandwich except a peanut butter sandwich.  I'm not a mayo fan at all... I don't even like it when salads have mayo in them.  My potato salad uses either natural yoghurt or sour cream instead of mayo.  :)  And my favourite sandwich would be just disgusting with mayo... you definitely need butter with a banana sandwich.  Plus, can anyone imagine fairy bread done with mayo?  :D

For those that don't know, fairy bread is usually white bread, buttered and covered with 100s and 1000s - non pareils - and cut into triangles.  The ultimate party food for little kids and big kids.  Pirate bread is done using chocolate sprinkles.  ;)

One of my favorite childhood sandwiches is peanut butter and butter. 

I put mayo on one piece of bread and Dijon mustard on the other for most meat and cheese sandwiches.
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Post by: crella on November 19, 2013, 11:45:39 PM
This thread reminded me that my brother likes peanut butter and mayo sandwiches, which he calls 'generic BLT's'.
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Post by: Leafy on November 20, 2013, 01:04:59 AM
Just the idea of butter on a sandwich with meat in it makes me queasy.

That is how I felt when I read a PP say they put mayo with salami.

I won't repeat what every other Aussie has said. I did, however, grow up really disliking mayo so rarely have it on anything. I would say that mustard seems to be used here a lot less as a sandwich condiment than in the states. Could just be my family though.

In reference to the Danish "on the tooth" butter, I call that canteen lady butter. The ladies in the school canteens would use a small spatula to apply the butter/margarine to sandwiches or rolls and it always ended up quite thick. Blergh. 
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Post by: Iris on November 20, 2013, 01:23:03 AM
Yet another Aussie adding to the "Of COURSE you butter sandwiches" chorus. Just meat and bread would be too dry I think. The only time I don't have butter is if I am using a cream cheese.

Then again, I would never add mayo to just meat on a sandwich. Meat, lettuce and mayo, sure.

I also agree with a previous poster that a chip butty without butter would be an offense against all that is right and good in the world  ;)
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on November 20, 2013, 01:55:46 AM
Had my favourite breakfast today. Cottage cheese on toast with butter.
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Post by: starry diadem on November 20, 2013, 02:14:10 AM
Butter and banana sandwich ... I can picture it (if I squint really hard)--but I can't picture eating it! :)

But it's heaven. I have one for breakfast every day. You don't know what you're missing!
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Post by: veryfluffy on November 20, 2013, 03:40:49 AM
Adding 100 calories of pure fat to a sandwich as glue or moisture also doesn't make sense to me.  :o
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Post by: Iris on November 20, 2013, 04:37:35 AM
Adding 100 calories of pure fat to a sandwich as glue or moisture also doesn't make sense to me.  :o

You could say the same thing about mayonnaise, though.
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Post by: Psychopoesie on November 20, 2013, 04:47:33 AM
Adding 100 calories of pure fat to a sandwich as glue or moisture also doesn't make sense to me.  :o

You could say the same thing about mayonnaise, though.

Yeah. And i'm guessing a lot of mayonnaisers (or mustarders) are doing it because they like the flavour... just like butterers do.

Not so keen on mayonnaise or mustard myself. Don't have either at home. Will occasionally have some on a sandwich when I'm out - depends on the fillings.
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on November 20, 2013, 05:02:15 AM
It's not just the flavour, it's also the texture.
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Post by: Psychopoesie on November 20, 2013, 05:12:03 AM
It's not just the flavour, it's also the texture.

True.  :)
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Post by: Redsoil on November 20, 2013, 05:43:27 AM
Butter on everything!  Woohoo! 
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Post by: cabbageweevil on November 20, 2013, 05:45:05 AM
I'm in the UK and would say it is the norm here - certainly if you buy a pre-packaged sandwich it would have butter (well, usually margarine) .

My sister's in-laws don't - my BiL's parents are both old enough to have grown up during the war and have always operated on a 'butter OR jam' basis (which when fat was very strictly rationed would make sense) and they have never broken the habit.

Spinning-off a bit, from the above: I recall a "mini-tale" once read, recounting doings in Holland centuries ago -- illustrating the renowned frugality and "economising" traits, of the Dutch. It concerned a father beating his son for spreading a piece of bread with butter, putting a bit of cheese on top, and eating same. "It isn't behaving in that way, that made this country great. You have bread with butter, or with cheese -- not both !"  I gather that in that part of the world, attitudes over this matter have become more liberal since then. (Dutch participants here, please tell me if the foregoing is a load of nonsense  :) .)
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Post by: scotcat60 on November 20, 2013, 07:11:01 AM
What is disgusting about butter on sandwich bread? I always butter my sandwiches. As Katana_Geldar said its not just the flavour it's the texture. I find unbuttered sarnies too dry, but I've known people who eat them quite happily.
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Post by: Teenyweeny on November 20, 2013, 07:21:13 AM
What is disgusting about butter on sandwich bread? I always butter my sandwiches. As Katana_Geldar said its not just the flavour it's the texture. I find unbuttered sarnies too dry, but I've known people who eat them quite happily.

Maybe people use something else, like mayo? My lunch sandwich today was Quorn slices, lettuce and cucumber. That would have been horribly dry without a bit of margarine. 
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Post by: Harriet Jones on November 20, 2013, 07:58:56 AM
What is disgusting about butter on sandwich bread? I always butter my sandwiches. As Katana_Geldar said its not just the flavour it's the texture. I find unbuttered sarnies too dry, but I've known people who eat them quite happily.

Maybe people use something else, like mayo? My lunch sandwich today was Quorn slices, lettuce and cucumber. That would have been horribly dry without a bit of margarine.

Yes, I think the people who aren't using butter use something else, like mayo and/or mustard.
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Post by: alkira6 on November 20, 2013, 08:39:47 AM
The only time I butter for a regular sandwich is when we are traveling or picnicking. The butter (never margarine  ;D ) keeps the bread from getting soggy as it forms a thin layer between the bread and everything else.
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Post by: Teenyweeny on November 20, 2013, 09:03:54 AM
The only time I butter for a regular sandwich is when we are traveling or picnicking. The butter (never margarine  ;D ) keeps the bread from getting soggy as it forms a thin layer between the bread and everything else.

But do you use mayo or another sauce/spread instead? Or is it literally just the dry fillings?
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Post by: #borecore on November 20, 2013, 09:06:31 AM
What is disgusting about butter on sandwich bread? I always butter my sandwiches. As Katana_Geldar said its not just the flavour it's the texture. I find unbuttered sarnies too dry, but I've known people who eat them quite happily.

Maybe people use something else, like mayo? My lunch sandwich today was Quorn slices, lettuce and cucumber. That would have been horribly dry without a bit of margarine.

Yes, I think the people who aren't using butter use something else, like mayo and/or mustard.

No, definitely not. I know I'm not alone in this, either--I've worked in a sandwich shop. I might have a tiny bit of mustard for flavor, but I really hate squishy liquid in my sandwiches. If a sandwich comes with a "spread' that's not reasonably thick, I always ask for it on the side.
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Post by: Teenyweeny on November 20, 2013, 09:16:46 AM
What is disgusting about butter on sandwich bread? I always butter my sandwiches. As Katana_Geldar said its not just the flavour it's the texture. I find unbuttered sarnies too dry, but I've known people who eat them quite happily.

Maybe people use something else, like mayo? My lunch sandwich today was Quorn slices, lettuce and cucumber. That would have been horribly dry without a bit of margarine.

Yes, I think the people who aren't using butter use something else, like mayo and/or mustard.

No, definitely not. I know I'm not alone in this, either--I've worked in a sandwich shop. I might have a tiny bit of mustard for flavor, but I really hate squishy liquid in my sandwiches. If a sandwich comes with a "spread' that's not reasonably thick, I always ask for it on the side.

See, I would never describe butter/maragrine as a 'squishy liquid'. Maybe people in the US generally use way more butter when it *is* used?

Most people I know use a 'butter thickness' comparable to the thickness of a sheet of paper. Just enough to make the sandwich not be terribly dry.

Maybe fillings in the US are generally less dry? Or maybe it's American bread? I definitely remember American bread having a very different taste and texture to UK bread, more brioche-like than I'm used to.

I'm clearly overthinking this.  ;D

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Post by: PastryGoddess on November 20, 2013, 10:18:28 AM
Someone's mom gave me a peanut butter sandwich with butter on it when I was a kid. I didn't really like it. Otherwise, as others have said, butter only goes on a sandwich if it's on the outside of the bread, in preparation of a grilled cheese sandwich.

All this talk of condiments...anyone else have sandiwches made of peanut butter and that marshmallow fluff stuff? I can't remember the brand name of it now, but I loved those as a kid. Didn't get them very often because they weren't exactly healthy, but they were yummm!

FlufferNutter Sandwich!!!  I used to love those.  Now they are too sweet for me
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Post by: PastryGoddess on November 20, 2013, 10:20:57 AM
What is disgusting about butter on sandwich bread? I always butter my sandwiches. As Katana_Geldar said its not just the flavour it's the texture. I find unbuttered sarnies too dry, but I've known people who eat them quite happily.

If it's not something that you're used too then yeah, I can see how it seems a bit disgusting.  I have never buttered a sandwich in my life.  I like bread and butter, but not with any other fillings.  I use mayo, or hummus, or other spreads on my sandwiches.
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Post by: Marga on November 20, 2013, 02:45:11 PM
I'm in the UK and would say it is the norm here - certainly if you buy a pre-packaged sandwich it would have butter (well, usually margarine) .

My sister's in-laws don't - my BiL's parents are both old enough to have grown up during the war and have always operated on a 'butter OR jam' basis (which when fat was very strictly rationed would make sense) and they have never broken the habit.

Spinning-off a bit, from the above: I recall a "mini-tale" once read, recounting doings in Holland centuries ago -- illustrating the renowned frugality and "economising" traits, of the Dutch. It concerned a father beating his son for spreading a piece of bread with butter, putting a bit of cheese on top, and eating same. "It isn't behaving in that way, that made this country great. You have bread with butter, or with cheese -- not both !"  I gather that in that part of the world, attitudes over this matter have become more liberal since then. (Dutch participants here, please tell me if the foregoing is a load of nonsense  :) .)

There are Dutch sayings: "Zuivel op zuivel is overdaad" Dairy on dairy is excess and "Zuivel op zuivel is werk van de duivel" Dairy on dairy is work of the devil. Not really used anymore, but my father did still encounter it in his youth (about a century ago). Yes, it was seen as too much.
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on November 20, 2013, 03:32:19 PM
As much as I like butter, I will say this: I used to help prepare sandwiches for my parents cafe and they did have mayonnaise instead of butter. I did look forward to the next day when I could take an unsold one for my lunch.

And, I will not have butter on burgers. That's a line you don't cross. On steak sandwiches? Maybe.
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Post by: cabbageweevil on November 21, 2013, 06:13:44 AM
There are Dutch sayings: "Zuivel op zuivel is overdaad" Dairy on dairy is excess and "Zuivel op zuivel is werk van de duivel" Dairy on dairy is work of the devil. Not really used anymore, but my father did still encounter it in his youth (about a century ago). Yes, it was seen as too much.

Thanks.  Reassures me that I really did read the anecdote about the long-ago irate dad; I had been wondering slightly, whether I'd only dreamt it...
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Post by: English1 on November 22, 2013, 11:15:47 AM
oh my. I've not had a banana sandwich (with butter) since I was a kid and now I really want one.

One of my guilty pleasures is a cheese and onion crisp (chip) sandwich with lots of butter and the crisps all crumbled up and mashed down into the butter.

Ooh and a cold roast chicken sandwich (cut off a proper roast chicken, not that ready cooked rubber rubbish) with salt and butter. Heaven...
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Post by: Lorelei_Evil on November 22, 2013, 11:31:15 AM
Good gracious, NO.

Still getting over being raised on nasty cheap, usually rancid margarine products. 
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on November 22, 2013, 02:49:22 PM
Chip sandwich with butter and salt and vinegar. Want now.
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Post by: rose red on November 26, 2013, 12:35:48 PM
I never heard of a chip butty and looked it up.  A diabetic's nightmare! ;)  I can't imagine eating one, but I can imagine eating it if you toss in something more firm, maybe some turkey or chicken.  Not with butter though.  I don't think I would like chips/fries with butter, though who knows?
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Post by: crella on November 26, 2013, 05:23:35 PM
I never heard of a chip butty and looked it up.  A diabetic's nightmare! ;)  I can't imagine eating one, but I can imagine eating it if you toss in something more firm, maybe some turkey or chicken.  Not with butter though.  I don't think I would like chips/fries with butter, though who knows?

I had to look it up too, wow! My first thought was 'DH would go for that!'
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Post by: GreenEyedHawk on November 26, 2013, 08:18:15 PM
I don't butter my bread anymore; my mom used to, I just sort of...didn't.  It wasn't a conscious decision or because I don't like it.

I like things like mayo or mustard, especially spicy Dijon mustard.  Mmm.
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Post by: Smulkin on November 27, 2013, 05:41:23 AM
 I stopped using butter when I make sandwiches for me, since the bother of getting butter out- buttering- putting butter away was not worth the small amount it adds to a plain sandwich (personal sandwiches are ridiculously plain). I don't dislike it as such, just not like it enough to go through the small amount of extra work. (Btw. I use 'butter' as a verb even though I don't often use real butter- butter substitute, blended or similar. That seems fairly common, as it's awkward to come up with another word for applying your not-really-butter.)
 I will butter for other people though, and if I buy a sandwich, it's expected and I don't mind it.
 Gooey condiments are the bane of my sandwich-eating existence. In supermarkets there are *very* few options without mayonnaise (yes, buttered as well) since it stretches out fillings and makes costs lower... but mayonnaise is one of my top Condiments of Terror. Ketchup, mustard, salad cream, brown sauce... I have a genuine fear of them. It's more a texture/appearance than a taste issue; mayonnaise doesn't taste that awful and I can stomach it if it's sparingly mixed in, but I'd rather not. Similarly I like the taste of mustard but can't eat it unless it's seeds or I've made it myself from seeds.
 So, I am quite firm on any 'butter vs. goo for lubricating sandwiches' argument.

 However! I am also firm that there needs to be butter on a chip butty. Otherwise, why bother?
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Post by: 123sandy on November 28, 2013, 11:48:07 AM
Thanks for all the replies! It has been really interesting to see how differently people make a sandwich.

Now butter in mashed potatoes? No thank you! :D
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Post by: starry diadem on November 28, 2013, 01:48:57 PM
Thanks for all the replies! It has been really interesting to see how differently people make a sandwich.

Now butter in mashed potatoes? No thank you! :D

Mash *without* butter?!  Shudders.
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Post by: Iris on November 28, 2013, 02:41:07 PM
Thanks for all the replies! It has been really interesting to see how differently people make a sandwich.

Now butter in mashed potatoes? No thank you! :D

Mash *without* butter?!  Shudders.

I stopped putting butter in my mashed potato because calories, but I have to agree that butter on mashed potato is deliciously divine.
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on November 28, 2013, 02:49:49 PM
Mash without butter is a traversity! I wouldn't want to imagine instant mashed potatoes without butter, they have no flavour at all. (Not that I have them a lot, but I have had them).
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Post by: nayberry on November 28, 2013, 05:41:29 PM
I don't think I'd be exaggarating if I said that 99% of people in the UK use butter/margarine on sandwiches.

The only exception I can think of would be Jewish people keeping kosher, or people who are watching their diet very carefully. Even the vegans I know use vegan-friendly margarine! Actually, Jewish folk here probably use that too.

There must be some people here who don't out of preference, but I have literally never met them. Of course, mayo is much less common here. 

How can you have a chip butty without butter? Answer: you can't, because that would be a travesty.

and of course the best chip butties are dipped in chip shop gravy too :D  *wanders off happy*



oh my. I've not had a banana sandwich (with butter) since I was a kid and now I really want one.

One of my guilty pleasures is a cheese and onion crisp (chip) sandwich with lots of butter and the crisps all crumbled up and mashed down into the butter.

Ooh and a cold roast chicken sandwich (cut off a proper roast chicken, not that ready cooked rubber rubbish) with salt and butter. Heaven...

ohhh crisp sandwiches nomnomnom



another Brit here,  i only don't use butter, and i mean proper butter, on a sarnie if its got mayo/salad cream on it.

hubby loves pb+b sandwiches :)


and on marshmallow fluff... have you tried that with nutella on the other slcie?? now that is heaven! 
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Post by: Julia Mercer on November 28, 2013, 05:54:16 PM
I wish more places offered REAL butter in general, I used to work at Wendy's, and they give you Becel for the baked potatoes, sorry, that stuff is just vile, even Disney World only serves spread, it's one thing at the restaurants, but onsite at the food court, especially for those who don't have a car or are on a budget, and don't eat spread for some reason or another, it's bad enough it's the knock off of I Can't Believe It's Not Butter (yes I CAN believe it's not butter thank you very much!

OK, off my soapbox!
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Post by: katycoo on November 28, 2013, 09:02:35 PM
Thanks for all the replies! It has been really interesting to see how differently people make a sandwich.

Now butter in mashed potatoes? No thank you! :D

Why not?  Bit of butter, bit of milk, S&P = winning.
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Post by: Psychopoesie on November 28, 2013, 09:50:36 PM
Thanks for all the replies! It has been really interesting to see how differently people make a sandwich.

Now butter in mashed potatoes? No thank you! :D

Why not?  Bit of butter, bit of milk, S&P = winning.

+1 to katycoo's version of mash.  :)
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Post by: Katana_Geldar on November 28, 2013, 11:40:33 PM
I wish more places offered REAL butter in general, I used to work at Wendy's, and they give you Becel for the baked potatoes, sorry, that stuff is just vile, even Disney World only serves spread, it's one thing at the restaurants, but onsite at the food court, especially for those who don't have a car or are on a budget, and don't eat spread for some reason or another, it's bad enough it's the knock off of I Can't Believe It's Not Butter (yes I CAN believe it's not butter thank you very much!

OK, off my soapbox!

Bevel butter is vile! It's like spreading water I. Toast. We used to add salt to it just to get some taste.
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Post by: starry diadem on November 29, 2013, 02:22:52 AM
I wish more places offered REAL butter in general, I used to work at Wendy's, and they give you Becel for the baked potatoes, sorry, that stuff is just vile, even Disney World only serves spread, it's one thing at the restaurants, but onsite at the food court, especially for those who don't have a car or are on a budget, and don't eat spread for some reason or another, it's bad enough it's the knock off of I Can't Believe It's Not Butter (yes I CAN believe it's not butter thank you very much!

OK, off my soapbox!

I wondered at first if that was that the stuff that comes in a squeezy bottle, but google is my friend...

Regarding "butter" in a squeezy bottle: I had never seen or heard of that before, but a couple of years ago I went with two friends on a road trip around the SW states (2 Brits and one home grown American there).  M and I - the Brits - went for breakfast at the motel (I think in Moab, in Utah) and I looked everywhere for butter for my toast. Nothing. So off I trotted to the concierge desk and asked for butter, only to be told it was in the squeezy bottle.  :o   ???  :-[  I wasn't rude, I promise you, but my astonishment - and, I have to say, disgust that someone would do that to defenceless dairy products - must have been very obvious!

We ate out, the next morning. I couldn't face that twice.
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Post by: pharmagal on November 29, 2013, 04:31:57 AM
I love butter on bread to the point where I love a slice of fresh bread and butter.

People don't butter sandwiches? ???

Dittto. Australia/NZ born and raised here.

I'd never heard of (or seen) bread/sandwiches without butter or margarine until this thread. I just can't imagine it....

Same!  And the butter never seemed to stop the bread from going soggy by lunchtime.

I have managed to cut out butter on my vegemite and peanut butter toast in the mornings.  but it still goes on almost everything else.


How can you have a chip butty without butter? Answer: you can't, because that would be a travesty.

It would be like having it without some Tomato sauce.  It's just not possible.


There is nothing quite like making a sandwich out of fresh white bread, a layer of butter or marg, a swipe of Vegemite, a fistful of Bluebird Green Onion Chips (no other flavour or brand will do) and another topper of bread.
 
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Post by: Dandelion on November 30, 2013, 04:15:39 AM
Another Canadian here. Formerly from Ontario, moved to BC as an adult. In my family, we all butter the bread for a sandwich. I will (lightly!) butter the bread before adding mustard or Miracle Whip to meat, and when I was a kid, and actually ate peanut butter sandwiches, the bread was buttered for those, too.

It's especially necessary when making tuna salad/chicken salad/devilled ham sandwiches, to prevent them becoming a soggy mess.  But otherwise simple sandwiches (like ham and cheese) dry out if the bread isn't buttered. You don't need that much, really. I can't imagine eating a sandwich dry.

About the only time it got spread fairly heavily was with a toasted tomato sandwich. Toast made in the toaster, spread with butter while it was hot, filled with lots of very thinly sliced tomato. The butter added the salt, and the bit of fat needed to give it the perfect mouth-feel.

Dang. Now I want one.
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Post by: RingTailedLemur on November 30, 2013, 05:50:13 AM
About the only time it got spread fairly heavily was with a toasted tomato sandwich. Toast made in the toaster, spread with butter while it was hot, filled with lots of very thinly sliced tomato.

Oh!  Is that what people mean by a "toasted sandwich"?  I was imagining this: http://www.hartsofstur.com/acatalog/CUISINART-GRSM1U-Sandwich-Toaster.gif
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Post by: violinp on November 30, 2013, 08:24:42 AM
Thanks for all the replies! It has been really interesting to see how differently people make a sandwich.

Now butter in mashed potatoes? No thank you! :D

Mash *without* butter?!  Shudders.

My mom used to make mashed potatoes with milk, butter, a little salt and pepper, and garlic powder. It's sooo good, but she had to change to Swanson broth instead of milk and butter and take out the salt because my dad has diabetes and heart disease. I'm glad my dad's healthier, but the potatoes just don't taste the same.  :-\