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Title: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Amara on February 15, 2014, 09:22:16 PM
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I got an email from Kickstarter.Com (fund raising website) today saying their data was hacked.  They said email addresses and passwords were taken so if you used the same password for any other site it was advisable to change it. 

Since they included a link to change your data I assumed it was a scam.  Hours later, I went to the official website and they DID have a warning about stolen data.

Because I'm lazy about passwords (Paypal, Amazon, etc.) I spent a frantic 20 minutes changing each an every one.  Then I deleted my Kickstarter account.  If a friend or relative launches a project, I (might) send a check.

The quote above is from Otterpop. I started thinking about passwords, how we choose them, if we have multiple ones, how well we guard them. I'd be very interested in others' methods.

I have about 120 passwords. I certainly couldn't remember them all, though I would guess I have about 15 that I regularly use and know. Every one of them is listed in an Excel datasheet that is itself locked under its own password. Mine tend to be complex; at a minimum they have letters, symbols and numbers that have been made uppercase, lowercase, mixed up, unusual combinations. In other words, they would be very difficult to guess. It was kind of funny when I closed down my website and called the ISP to cancel my account. When I gave the rep the password she was astounded that it contained 23 letters, four different symbols and three numbers, all mixed up. And she wondered how I remembered it.

So when Otterpop posted about being "lazy" about her passwords it prompted me to wonder if I was unusual. What do you do?
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Deetee on February 15, 2014, 09:37:40 PM
I have real passwords on the accounts that matter (that are tied to monetary things or personal info) and easy passwords on the rest. I'd have them all the same on the easy ones, but they all have different requirements.

Things that annoy me :1) websites that call for some sort of alphanumeric 12 digit code to access "your account" which only allows you to read articles for free. (Those are becoming less frequent)
2)websites where the username is something other than my email. 
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Mary Lennox on February 15, 2014, 09:48:22 PM
I have 3 words and 3 number sequences that I switch around, unless it's for very important info like online banking.

What I really hate when I sign up for things, is they just give you a space to put your password. So I put my usual one in, it's 7 letters, all lowercase, no numbers. But then it's rejected because the password needs 8 characters and a number, symbol or uppercase letter. Why didn't you say so in the first place?!?!
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: HoneyBee42 on February 15, 2014, 10:09:40 PM
I have a system which generates a five letter, three digit password which I will add a punctuation mark (and always the same one) if it is required.  All of my personal financial ones have the same password, all of my fun stuff has the same password (but different from the first password), and at work where my passwords have to be changed on varying lengths of time, I just have a note that tells me what series (i.e. the first letter of the password) I am on for that particular site.  I have 13 rotating passwords that I use for work purposes.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: jedikaiti on February 15, 2014, 10:11:29 PM
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I got an email from Kickstarter.Com (fund raising website) today saying their data was hacked.  They said email addresses and passwords were taken so if you used the same password for any other site it was advisable to change it. 

Since they included a link to change your data I assumed it was a scam.  Hours later, I went to the official website and they DID have a warning about stolen data.

Because I'm lazy about passwords (Paypal, Amazon, etc.) I spent a frantic 20 minutes changing each an every one.  Then I deleted my Kickstarter account.  If a friend or relative launches a project, I (might) send a check.

The quote above is from Otterpop. I started thinking about passwords, how we choose them, if we have multiple ones, how well we guard them. I'd be very interested in others' methods.

I have about 120 passwords. I certainly couldn't remember them all, though I would guess I have about 15 that I regularly use and know. Every one of them is listed in an Excel datasheet that is itself locked under its own password. Mine tend to be complex; at a minimum they have letters, symbols and numbers that have been made uppercase, lowercase, mixed up, unusual combinations. In other words, they would be very difficult to guess. It was kind of funny when I closed down my website and called the ISP to cancel my account. When I gave the rep the password she was astounded that it contained 23 letters, four different symbols and three numbers, all mixed up. And she wondered how I remembered it.

So when Otterpop posted about being "lazy" about her passwords it prompted me to wonder if I was unusual. What do you do?

I have kind of a set that I tend to pull from at any given time, but I also have an app on my phone that I use to store which site uses which username/pw combination, since user name also frequently varies.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Otterpop on February 15, 2014, 10:21:25 PM
Hey, I'm flattered Amara  8).  Or should I be...  ???

I use a combination of my husbands name, my daughter's names, a few meaningful numbers and a punctuation mark.  Problem is, I'm paranoid about writing them down and store them in my head only.  Consequently I frequently forget the different combinations and have to auto-request them to be emailed to me again and again.  This takes time and increases risk so I started using just one combination.   The websites I frequently buy from were the ones I had to change the passwords for today.

(If I suddenly start spouting gibberish or insulting random people, you'll know my identity has been stolen at Ehell)
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: SheltieMom on February 15, 2014, 10:58:53 PM
I use a free program called LastPass. It generates and stores all my user names and passwords, except my online banking, which I don't take any chances with. I only have to remember the one password for the program. It also has the option of automatically logging me in to websites, so I don't even have to do that. I have LastPass set up as my homepage, so it automatically comes up, and I log in to it, then click the websites from my vault. When my computer had to have some work done, I installed LastPass on my husband's computer and was able to access everything from there.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: betty on February 15, 2014, 10:59:41 PM
I use password-management software to generate and remember passwords. The software I use is 1Password, but there are other similar programs. 1Password is pay software, but IMO it is worth every penny. It allows me to use different, complex passwords for everything, and can automatically fill in passwords on my web browser and my iPhone. It encrypts the data. It also gives me a place to store and encrypt other private data, like social security numbers. I just have to remember my one master password to unlock the software. I just make sure my dh also knows my master password in case of emergency.

Bonus: Since all my passwords are in 1Password, I was able to do a quick search to be sure that my kickstarter password was unique, so I know I only need to change that one in reaction to this breach.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: luna_elvellon on February 15, 2014, 11:05:43 PM
I have a couple easy-to-remember passwords I use for unimportant stuff (an online puzzle site with no money involved, for example), while for other sites I invent a new one for each using a couple favorite methods. I keep them all written down, though I at least try not to store them in an overly-obvious place. I also have a few e-mails I alternate between depending on the nature of the site, so that helps a little.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Slartibartfast on February 15, 2014, 11:07:46 PM
I just have a formula.  I use the same base string for just about everything, which has numbers and letters and capitals and lowercase and a typographical symbol just for variety - I'll say it's "Ima99%er", for sake of example.  Then for each website, I add the first two letters of the website name: Amazon would be "Ima99%erAm" and eHell would be "Ima99%erEh" and so on.  If hackers got my password for a given site (such as they did with Kickstarter), they'd have no way to tell that "Ima99%erKi" was a formula - all they could do is run it and my usual username against other websites and when it didn't match, they'd move on.

It makes things a lot easier to remember, especially with sites that give you a certain number of tries to remember your password - I know it's either my "use for everything I really don't care about" password (which is not particularly secure) or my formula.  And if it's neither, I know I probably never signed up for that site in the first place!
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Bluenomi on February 15, 2014, 11:11:02 PM
I have a base password that I use variations of. The base is 6 random letters I was assigned at uni for a password and couldn't change do had to learn it. I add capitals and numbers as required. The advantage is I can write passwords down as uni134 and I know what it us but others won't.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Library Dragon on February 15, 2014, 11:22:31 PM
I have three passwords that I'll rotate through for work or home. Not common, but easy for me to remember.

For example when I worked at St. John the Baptist school I would rotate silver platter, locust, and forerunner.  They are all words related to St. John the Baptist. I could remember them, but most people wouldn't guess.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Elfmama on February 15, 2014, 11:37:47 PM
I have 3 that I usually use.  Level One is for forums and places that you wonder "Why do they need a password?"  :o   That one is a pet's nickname plus the year it was born.

Level Two is for personal information, but not monetary. That one is a nonsense word + significant number, like the year my grandmother was born.

Level Three is for monetary things like my Paypal account.  Again a nonsense word + significant number, but with raNdom CapS.   I'm hesitant to use symbols, because IIRC, some symbols like ? are used in programming and it gives the computer fits if you use them.

I keep them in a list on my computer, password protected with a password that is used nowhere else.  And even if someone should happen to break into that, they wouldn't get the whole password, because they're coded, just enough there to tell ME what they are.  2834Z*G* doesn't mean anything to you, right?  ;D
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: PastryGoddess on February 15, 2014, 11:43:54 PM
I use a free program called LastPass. It generates and stores all my user names and passwords, except my online banking, which I don't take any chances with. I only have to remember the one password for the program. It also has the option of automatically logging me in to websites, so I don't even have to do that. I have LastPass set up as my homepage, so it automatically comes up, and I log in to it, then click the websites from my vault. When my computer had to have some work done, I installed LastPass on my husband's computer and was able to access everything from there.

POD to the nth degree about Lastpass  I have a ridiculously difficult password to get into it, but all of my passwords are stored here.  I LOVE their password generator.  They also have an onscreen keyboard if you are not comfortable with typing in passwords on a different computer
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: VorFemme on February 15, 2014, 11:54:47 PM
At a previous job, we had to change passwords as a suite of three every 60 or 90 days and we could not reuse the previous password (we could go back more than one - if we "rotated" which account had which password in the suite went to which account).

I started picking a book (or series of books) and picking three "somethings" out of it for each of the passwords.  Reminder hint might be "his", "hers", "something else".  To give an example - say Harry Potter and whatever was out most recently - HarryPotter, HedwigOwl, and Number934 (couldn't use a space or a / to make it 9 3/4).  To mix it up more - Harry might be H@rri instead, a letter might be changed to a similar numeral, or I'd add a number (page number?) to a short name (say, the first page that item showed up on - or the chapter number if the name was longer).  Anything to get it up to the required size but let me have a memory crutch....without writing down more than a cryptic hint. 

Because nobody but me knew which book I might have been reading the weekend before.....
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Ceallach on February 16, 2014, 12:01:44 AM
I have very few different passwords.   There are a couple of exceptions, but nearly everything I access has one of two passwords.

There's my challenging password that I use for identity protected things including my email account. I change this every couple of years.  It's extremely random and hard to guess.   Also, the type of things I use it for I'd know immediately if I were hacked so would know to change it everywhere.

Then I have my insecure password which I use for random things that I honestly don't care if I lose access to - random websites etc.  Things with zero link to my identity or any personal data. 

My work password is one exception, I change it monthly and it follows a different format to anything else in my life. I like to keep my work and personal access separate as in theory I guess people at my work might learn my password for work.

Although I am private about some things in my life, I am far less security conscious than many people.   I believe if somebody really, truly has it out for me they will find a way.   If not, the chances are low.  I don't have a credit card and the debit card we use online has a very low amount of funds attached to it - and even if there was a fraudulent purchase, our bank would cover it and refund us.   So I honestly don't get the fuss about security personally.   My facebook did get hacked once a couple of years back when I logged in through insecure airport wireless internet.  That was distressing, but it was also very quick to reset the account and get them booted out.  They were doing that scam where they PM friends claiming I'm stranded overseas and have lost my passport etc and need money - I was very impressed with the response from my friends in challenging the scammers, including making public posts tagging me and warning people what had happened.  It hasn't change my attitude towards passwords at all.   All it means is I won't risk logging on through airport wireless again.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: cicero on February 16, 2014, 03:20:35 AM
I have 3 words and 3 number sequences that I switch around, unless it's for very important info like online banking.

What I really hate when I sign up for things, is they just give you a space to put your password. So I put my usual one in, it's 7 letters, all lowercase, no numbers. But then it's rejected because the password needs 8 characters and a number, symbol or uppercase letter. Why didn't you say so in the first place?!?!
urgh i hate that! i use a number of different passwords that have numbers and letters but not all of them are more than 7 letters.

I also dislike when the machine decides that my password just isn't good enough. makes me feel like I failed an exam ::)
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: oz diva on February 16, 2014, 04:47:44 AM
Someone told me to use variations on your pets' names. I've modified that to versions of dead pets' names.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: siamesecat2965 on February 16, 2014, 08:10:33 AM
Passwords are the bane if my existence. Between two jobs and having to change all those every so often to my personal stuff, some of mine are the same, which they shouldn't be. My bank account is the only random, unique one, and it's gibberish. I keep saying I need to change them all, and make some unique and more secure, and others, which don't involve any financial stuff, can remain as they are
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Mikayla on February 16, 2014, 09:51:01 AM
I don't know how safe this is, but I've always kept mine in a draft email that I just keep adding to or editing.  In cases where it's more sensitive, my naming of the sites is somewhat obscure.  For example, my phone account is tm (initials of carrier). 

I don't do any banking online, though.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Hmmmmm on February 16, 2014, 11:14:40 AM
For personal, I use the same for any sites that don't contain any financial, credit card, or personal data. For others, I use unique ones based on where we vacationed and the date and at least one special character.

At work thankfully we use a password manager because I have to change weekly because of my job, it has to be 9 characters, lower and upper, numerical in 2 different places and a special character and no English or Spanish words. I once was having a problem with my passwords and systems and just an all around bad IT day. The help desk sent me a new password after calling and telling all my problems.  The new one: 1hotmess:2day. I roared with laughter.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Outdoor Girl on February 16, 2014, 11:39:05 AM
I once was having a problem with my passwords and systems and just an all around bad IT day. The help desk sent me a new password after calling and telling all my problems.  The new one: 1hotmess:2day. I roared with laughter.

That's hilarious.

A friend of mine worked on the IT help desk and was responsible for setting initial passwords for new employees.  One new gentleman was starting and his name was John O'Smith.  With the O' in front of the last name, she thought it might be Irish in origin and almost set the password as Leprechaun.  But changed her mind last minute and set something more generic.  When she met him, she was very relieved because he was not, in fact, Irish but Asian.  A few months down the line when she'd gotten to know him quite well, she told him the story.  He thought it was hilarious.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: #borecore on February 16, 2014, 11:41:19 AM
Dashlane for computer and phone. My husband and I both use it, which is nice because it allows us to share passwords for mutual accounts.

I also use it to sync to various devices and generate random passwords as needed.
If there's anything else I need to know related to use of a certain site, I can create a note or write it in the Dashlane comment field for that site.

It also auto-fills CC and address data with one click, so forms are much easier. This was great during the job application process.


I still use one funky, alphanumeric, lengthy password for school things because I know I might have to log into school PCs from memory, but otherwise I've stopped worrying about memorizing passwords.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Giraffe, Esq on February 16, 2014, 06:39:51 PM
One hint I found somewhere, to help avoid using "dictionary" words, was to take a phrase and use the first letters of each word.

So, for example, say you love Romeo and Juliet.  You love the line, "O, what light through yonder window breaks."  So your password would be Owltywb.  If you want to/are required to add a number, you can replace the O with a 0 or the lowercaseL with a 1.

I've also used bible verses, with similar l33t replacements.  So instead of John3:16, I might have J0hn3:l6 (with an L for that 1).

Note: None of my passwords are actually Romeo and Juliet or John 3:16.   ;D

Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Figgie on February 16, 2014, 07:57:37 PM
When my spouse used to help people at work with their passwords, he would tell them to use whatever they wanted for the base password and then when they needed to change it (every 90 days), use the month and year.  So the original password would have the month/year you started and that month/year would change every 90 days.

If your password was say generaljack and the date you started May, 2012, then your original password would be generaljack5/12.  When the system prompted you for a new password in 3 months, your new password would be generaljack8/12. 

For some reason, this was possible for people to remember. :)
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Hmmmmm on February 16, 2014, 08:05:39 PM
^^
That was pretty common advice at major corporations which is why companies like mine prohibit reuse of the same letters for up to 12 password changes.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Elfmama on February 16, 2014, 08:37:39 PM
^^
That was pretty common advice at major corporations which is why companies like mine prohibit reuse of the same letters for up to 12 password changes.
I understand that changing them and requiring numbers and symbols is for security purposes -- but really, if you change them every 7 or 15 or 30 days, doesn't that INCREASE the possibility that the most current password is going to be on a post-it somewhere on the screen or pinned to the cubical wall?
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: JoW on February 16, 2014, 08:51:53 PM
I use the same one for all of my computer bulletin boards. 

At work I have to change every 60 days.  Each password has to be at least 8 characters long,.  Of lower case, upper case, number, and symbols, 3 of those 4.  It can't include more than 3 consecutive letters from your user name.  We can't re-use a password for 2 years.  I'm using a list of relatives with their estimated ages.  I keep a list of used passwords in Excel on my computer.   

My on-line banking passwork is written on paper which is kept in the drawer of my desk. 
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Seraphia on February 16, 2014, 09:01:59 PM
^^
That was pretty common advice at major corporations which is why companies like mine prohibit reuse of the same letters for up to 12 password changes.
I understand that changing them and requiring numbers and symbols is for security purposes -- but really, if you change them every 7 or 15 or 30 days, doesn't that INCREASE the possibility that the most current password is going to be on a post-it somewhere on the screen or pinned to the cubical wall?

Yep.

A new, original password for every reset sounds like a good idea in theory. But in practice, if there's no continuity between passwords, and they have to be juggled repeatedly, it becomes really tough for the average user to keep track any other way than something much less secure than pure memory.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Luci on February 16, 2014, 09:20:31 PM
I've been getting by my banking password by changing only the odd symbol every 3 months. I'm up to % now and still have the top row to go, then there are the other weird things lurking, so I'm thinking I'll be dead before I run out, or Bank will have changed the rules. Makes me tired.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: whatsanenigma on February 16, 2014, 11:22:20 PM
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One hint I found somewhere, to help avoid using "dictionary" words, was to take a phrase and use the first letters of each word.

So, for example, say you love Romeo and Juliet.  You love the line, "O, what light through yonder window breaks."  So your password would be Owltywb.  If you want to/are required to add a number, you can replace the O with a 0 or the lowercaseL with a 1.

I've also used bible verses, with similar l33t replacements.  So instead of John3:16, I might have J0hn3:l6 (with an L for that 1).

Note: None of my passwords are actually Romeo and Juliet or John 3:16.   ;D

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I've been getting by my banking password by changing only the odd symbol every 3 months. I'm up to % now and still have the top row to go, then there are the other weird things lurking, so I'm thinking I'll be dead before I run out, or Bank will have changed the rules. Makes me tired.

I use a combination of these methods.  The core of my password is the letters of a phrase, as described with the Romeo and Juliet example.  The first letter is a capital, and there is a number on the end that has a meaning to me but is not easily guessed by most people.  On the very end is a symbol, and every time I have to change my password, I move one symbol to the right across the top row of the keyboard.  And when I hit the end, I go back to the beginning.

So, if I use the example given in the post above, my password would be Owltywb372! , and then 90 days later would become Owltywb372@ , and so on until eventually it becomes the one with the exclamation mark again.

That is only for my password at work, though, which requires at least one capital letter and one symbol and one number and must be changed every 90 days.  Passwords for other things, depending on how secure they need to be, are usually just the core password (owltywb in this example) or the core password plus the numbers (owltywb372).  Ones that need to be secure but don't need to be changed, such as my bank account and my facebook account, are usually just Owltywb372! and they just stay that way.

Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: jedikaiti on February 17, 2014, 12:14:26 AM
This thread reminds me of this xkcd strip: http://xkcd.com/936/ (http://xkcd.com/936/)

For grins and giggles, I once tried actually using "correct horse battery staple" as a password on a site and got an error to not take webcomic advice too literally. <G>
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: FauxFoodist on February 17, 2014, 12:36:14 PM
I have three base passwords -- two of those have two versions I use.  Since I now have so many sites I log into which have different password requirements (minimum characters, must have symbols, blah blah blah), I've made notes to myself on my computer - new, old, WorkEmailBrowser, short, long.  I do the same to remind myself of my log-in name -- SoCalVal first and middle initials old name, SoCalVal first, both middle initials new name.  So, I'll forget at times what my password is and look at the note I made myself, which will look something like this:  Website -- SoCalValFirstInitialMiddleInitialMiddleInitialNewLastName New 2x ("New 2x" = new personal password entered twice or "New Old Long" = new personal password + old password long version).
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: wolfie on February 17, 2014, 01:49:55 PM
^^
That was pretty common advice at major corporations which is why companies like mine prohibit reuse of the same letters for up to 12 password changes.
I understand that changing them and requiring numbers and symbols is for security purposes -- but really, if you change them every 7 or 15 or 30 days, doesn't that INCREASE the possibility that the most current password is going to be on a post-it somewhere on the screen or pinned to the cubical wall?

Yep.

A new, original password for every reset sounds like a good idea in theory. But in practice, if there's no continuity between passwords, and they have to be juggled repeatedly, it becomes really tough for the average user to keep track any other way than something much less secure than pure memory.

that is why I use a theme. For a while it was gemstones. Then cities. So I don't have to write down the password, but it is still different from the one that came before.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Hmmmmm on February 17, 2014, 02:34:38 PM
^^
That was pretty common advice at major corporations which is why companies like mine prohibit reuse of the same letters for up to 12 password changes.
I understand that changing them and requiring numbers and symbols is for security purposes -- but really, if you change them every 7 or 15 or 30 days, doesn't that INCREASE the possibility that the most current password is going to be on a post-it somewhere on the screen or pinned to the cubical wall?


Yep.

A new, original password for every reset sounds like a good idea in theory. But in practice, if there's no continuity between passwords, and they have to be juggled repeatedly, it becomes really tough for the average user to keep track any other way than something much less secure than pure memory.

No, since most of ur users will be required to create a new password in the morning and then end up re-entering it 4 to 5 times per day when their PC goes into standby mode after 4 min of inactivity, most have their new ones memorized by end of day. And since having a password written down near their workstation is a severe security violation, most are pretty good about getting used to the change.
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: Ms_Cellany on February 17, 2014, 03:04:33 PM
I pick a sentence that contains numbers, and usually end with an exclamation point.

so, "I love our eight kitties so very very much!" is Ilo8ksvvm!

or "I started dating The Sweetie in 2008!" is IsdTSi2008!
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: FauxFoodist on February 17, 2014, 03:54:06 PM
I forgot to mention that one of my base passwords is a Greek or Latin word I thought was neat.  I also figured that a) I'd, at that point, never mentioned the word or phrase to anyone or associated it with me and b) a lot of people don't know Latin or ancient Greek words nor would they associate any specific ones with me.

Actually, I just realized I do have three other passwords for my personal accounts that I use only for those specific accounts -- two are takes on Latin or ancient Greek words (with numbers in place of some letters).
Title: Re: Passwords (s/o of the Beggars, Moochers and Scammers thread)
Post by: P12663 on February 17, 2014, 05:03:28 PM
One method I use is to come up with a common phrase and then move my fingers one key to the right or left or up on the keyboard before typing it.  Works best if you touch-type.

likethis = ;olryjod or kujwrgua or o8i35y8w