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Etiquette School is in session! => "What an interesting assumption." => Topic started by: FoxPaws on October 02, 2007, 06:18:39 AM

Title: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: FoxPaws on October 02, 2007, 06:18:39 AM
In the past couple of days, I've seen at least two threads where someone used "the line" simply because they disagreed with something a previous poster said.

There is a difference between an assumption and an opinion.

TAIA is one of the great comeback lines of all time, but it doesn't apply to all circumstances. Using it inappropriately reduces it to a quick, sitcom "zinger" and dilutes it's overall effect. This is especially true on a forum where there is time and space to politely clarify, debate, and express oneself.

Of course, this is just my humble.......opinion.  :)
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: wellisawstar on October 02, 2007, 06:54:15 AM
I was just about to post a thread about this. I've found a few instances like the ones you've described. The use of TAIA seems..well..a little backhanded on this forum when it's not used for etiquette.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: JordanX on October 02, 2007, 08:33:10 AM
It happened to me, and I came over here to mention how this statement can be misused and found this thread. 

An OP asked if they were overreacting to something and I replied that my opinion was that they were being a bit "rigid" and therefore, yes, IMO, overreacting.  I got a miffed response that started with TAIA.

In that context, the TAIA came across as pretty snarky/rude.  First of all, an opinion that has been asked for is not an inappropriate assumption that needs shutting down.  And that's what TAIA is for, right?  Shutting down someone who has stated something (a) unsolicited (b) inappropriate and (c) rude.  IMO, I hadn't done anything like that.                                                                     
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: sasha on October 02, 2007, 11:53:31 AM
In the past couple of days, I've seen at least two threads where someone used "the line" simply because they disagreed with something a previous poster said.

There is a difference between an assumption and an opinion.

Totally agree. Used when someone hasn't made an assumption smacks of passive-agression and superiority, IMO.

Sasha
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: stargazer on October 02, 2007, 12:35:22 PM
In the past couple of days, I've seen at least two threads where someone used "the line" simply because they disagreed with something a previous poster said.

There is a difference between an assumption and an opinion.

Totally agree. Used when someone hasn't made an assumption smacks of passive-agression and superiority, IMO.

Sasha

ITA.  You said what I was thinking a lot better than I could have.  This phrase is starting to grate on me a bit just for that reason.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: fluffy on October 02, 2007, 12:49:11 PM
Wow! I wanted to start a thread about the same thing!

I'm starting to really dislike "the line" because it's starting to feel like a little etiquette in-joke and shorthand for "I don't agree with you" or "I think that you're being silly." It's like the anti-POD/ITA.

It's a good line, it just seems to be getting overused.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: AndreaX on October 02, 2007, 01:34:48 PM
In the past couple of days, I've seen at least two threads where someone used "the line" simply because they disagreed with something a previous poster said.

There is a difference between an assumption and an opinion.

Totally agree. Used when someone hasn't made an assumption smacks of passive-agression and superiority, IMO.

Sasha

ITA.  You said what I was thinking a lot better than I could have.  This phrase is starting to grate on me a bit just for that reason.

Amen sisters
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Bob Ducca on October 02, 2007, 02:18:03 PM
I've had it used on me once, and I felt like it was completely out of line and I felt very offended.  I'm not saying the poster didn't have the right to disagree with me, but he demanded clarification on my post, and when I gave it, he responded with "the line." 

It seemed like he was only asking for clarification to belittle me, and then pulled out "the line" when there were many legitimate arguments he could have made in response to my clarification:

"That has not been my experience," for example, would have worked well.

What truly bothered me was that I was expressing an opinion (as I clearly stated) based on my personal interactions with people.  How is that an assumption?  Sheesh...
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: FoxPaws on October 02, 2007, 02:37:47 PM
What truly bothered me was that I was expressing an opinion (as I clearly stated) based on my personal interactions with people.  How is that an assumption?  Sheesh...

This was similar to my experience. I had actually prefaced my comment with "IMHO" and got "the line" in return.

To me, an assumption is a guess made on the basis of incomplete information. I know what I think, and while anyone is free to disagree with my opinion, slamming me down with a one liner just to be snarky is unnecessary.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: platys on October 02, 2007, 03:28:35 PM
Honestly, I haven't seen a non-rude usage of the phrase in context of a thread.   It's a lot like the dreaded "um" - its insulting almost all the time.   

Now, if someone walks up to you and goes "So, you must be on welfare!", yeah, use it.  Someone disagrees with you on a thread?  Leave it alone.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: JoieGirl7 on October 02, 2007, 03:41:06 PM
It is a polite etiquette smack in the face, meant for strangers who voice rude assumptions.
 
In the context of a thread, I have only seen it used properly once and that was where someone directly insulted someone else and the insulted party used it.
 
But, when people are asking for opinions, they are asking for interesting assumptions especially if they do not provide enough info in a post where one has to assume many things.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: blue2000 on October 02, 2007, 04:18:37 PM
It is a polite etiquette smack in the face, meant for strangers who voice rude assumptions.
 
In the context of a thread, I have only seen it used properly once and that was where someone directly insulted someone else and the insulted party used it.
 
But, when people are asking for opinions, they are asking for interesting assumptions especially if they do not provide enough info in a post where one has to assume many things.

ITA.

If you are truly making an insulting assumption based on NOTHING - that is a good time to use the line.

If you are giving your opinion in a thread, chances are you are working with whatever limited info you have. The poster should correct your info, if it is wrong, but not tell you you are assuming things.

BTW, I think 'lines' in general should be used sparingly, no matter where you are. They are supposed to be for the truly rude statements, to shut someone down. Not for any and all discussions where people disagree. The same as the 'icy glare' would not usually be appropriate in discussions IRL. It's just not very friendly.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: ZipTheWonder on October 02, 2007, 04:29:54 PM
It is a polite etiquette smack in the face, meant for strangers who voice rude assumptions.

I actually don't see it as all that polite.  It sounds to me a lot like "What an idiot you are for thinking so."
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: JoieGirl7 on October 02, 2007, 04:56:30 PM
It is a polite etiquette smack in the face, meant for strangers who voice rude assumptions.

I actually don't see it as all that polite.  It sounds to me a lot like "What an idiot you are for thinking so."
Which is why you should only use it on idiots who think stupid things about you.
 
As far as its politeness, it is like a verbal icy stare which is not in and of itself rude when in response to certain comments that strangers will make.
 
Some people make really innapropriate comments to perfect strangers and they deserve something for their trouble.  "What an interesting assumption" gives them a response that ends (hopefully) the conversation.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: heathert on October 02, 2007, 10:50:59 PM
Maybe a good response then would be to ask the person what exactly they're stating that you are assuming?  They would have to think then.

Heather
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: JoieGirl7 on October 02, 2007, 11:45:47 PM
Maybe a good response then would be to ask the person what exactly they're stating that you are assuming?  They would have to think then.

Heather

That might strain them given some of the comments that I have heard people relate.  I think the intent is not so much to get them to think as it is to shut off the communication and deter any further comments.
 
I think it evolved because most of us when faced with an outrageous comment from a stranger will get tongue tied, completely baffled as to how someone could be so rude and then we mutter something nonsensical or even something that invites further comment.
 
So, this gives someone a response to an offensive comment that does not involve physical violence (metaphorically speaking  >:D of course).
 
I guess though considering the context, except for very few cases, it really isn't appropriate on the forum because you do have time to think and formulate a response unlike in real life where it is sometimes hard to think quickly.

I am not to good with the icy stares either.  I am more likely to offer a frozen smile (with my teeth gritted.)
 
If I were more mentally nimble in the moment, I would probably do something else.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Issa on October 03, 2007, 12:27:08 AM
I think that on this forum, we (in general) make quite a few assumptions based on the limited information that we read. Sometimes these assumptions are over the top, sometimes not. I think that's how the line evolved. I really do like this line, but I do agree that it can be used to snarky effect - especially when online.

I will say though - since I am one of the people who said "what an assumption to make" to the OP on another thread, that my intent was not snarky, or to 'use a line'. It was in response to what she wrote, and assumptions that I thought she was making. In rereading that particular post, (miniskirts and grandma) where the OP uses the word "looks" I read it as "is," so perhaps I was a little harsh in my response or misunderstood what she was trying to convey. I certainly was not trying to "misuse or abuse" the line.

However, I will stress that when someone uses the word 'assume', one cannot assume that they are trying to be snarky :)   
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Ohmeomy on October 03, 2007, 11:51:37 AM
In the past couple of days, I've seen at least two threads where someone used "the line" simply because they disagreed with something a previous poster said.

There is a difference between an assumption and an opinion.

TAIA is one of the great comeback lines of all time, but it doesn't apply to all circumstances. Using it inappropriately reduces it to a quick, sitcom "zinger" and dilutes it's overall effect. This is especially true on a forum where there is time and space to politely clarify, debate, and express oneself.

Of course, this is just my humble.......opinion.  :)

CRUD MONKEYS! I couldn't agree with you more! I was thinking about starting a thread about this exact same thing as apparently others were too.  Its being way overused and will soon become as meaningless as "whatever".

You might, you may = not an assumption only a statement of possibility
I think, IMHO = only your opinion, you are not stating it as a fact
Its possible = again not an assumption
According to your line of thinking = making an analogy to a previous statement, again not an assumption
Way to act = making a statement of your personal opinion, not an assumption
I will not = a statement of personal belief = not an assumption

You look fatter, you must be pregnant = you can use the line
Your husband flirts too much, he's going to cheat on you = you can use the line
Your child is retarded, his eyes look funny = you can use the line
Your wife is too loud, she's wasted = you can use the line
Your house is too small, no one will come to your parties = you can use the line
You're a nobody if you can't afford a cell phone = you can use the line

See the difference.  Its only an assumption if its a statement presented as being factual.  I don't think nosy questions qualify as assumptions because they are questions and not a statement.  Nosy question askers need to have their shoes squeezed with a puzzled look and a "why do you want to know" asked in return.  Pretend to not understand the question and make them squirm, they will probably stop.

You must be careful in accusing people of making assumptions and be certain that they are indeed assumption, not just something you don't like hearing.  Many, many times I have read that line used here when it makes no sense at all.

Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Mr. Fed on October 03, 2007, 01:37:15 PM
It's a little complicated.

What about "I have encountered people who like bagels who are racists.  Therefore I think that people who like bagels are often racists."

Even if it's couched in "I think" terms, it's still premised on assumptions, and rude ones at that.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Bob Ducca on October 03, 2007, 01:51:45 PM
Mr. Fed,

I would have to disagree with "I have encountered" being an assumption.  Unless it is your position that the person making the statement is lying about his or her experiences, in which case you are the one making assumptions.

The second part of the phrase is the assumption, but the first is a valid statement based on that person's experience.  I would submit that the better response to the "Therefore" part of your scenario would be, "Perhaps you shouldn't judge all bagel-eaters based on the actions of those few with whom you have personal experience."

What would "the line" accomplish in your scenario, except offend and antagonize the poster?
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Mr. Fed on October 03, 2007, 01:55:48 PM
Mr. Fed,

I would have to disagree with "I have encountered" being an assumption.  Unless it is your position that the person making the statement is lying about his or her experiences, in which case you are the one making assumptions.

The second part of the phrase is the assumption, but the first is a valid statement based on that person's experience.  I would submit that the better response to the "Therefore" part of your scenario would be, "Perhaps you shouldn't judge all bagel-eaters based on the actions of those few with whom you have personal experience."

What would "the line" accomplish in your scenario, except offend and antagonize the poster?

I agree that the line is addressed to the second part, not the first part (though the thinking behind the second part calls into question the reliability of the first part).

The same question you pose could be raised about any possible use of the line.  If it is ever permissible, why not here?

If I said "I think people of race X are generally untrustworthy, because I have encountered people of race X that are untrustworthy," would you hesitate to use the line?
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Brentwood on October 03, 2007, 02:11:27 PM
TAIA? Someone help me out here, please.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: jimithing on October 03, 2007, 02:13:21 PM
TAIA? Someone help me out here, please.

"That's An Interesting Assumption."
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Brentwood on October 03, 2007, 02:14:59 PM
TAIA? Someone help me out here, please.

"That's An Interesting Assumption."

Thank you! I should have been able to figure it out, but I was in "what an interesting assumption" mode.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Bob Ducca on October 03, 2007, 02:20:29 PM
Mr. Fed,

I would have to disagree with "I have encountered" being an assumption.  Unless it is your position that the person making the statement is lying about his or her experiences, in which case you are the one making assumptions.

The second part of the phrase is the assumption, but the first is a valid statement based on that person's experience.  I would submit that the better response to the "Therefore" part of your scenario would be, "Perhaps you shouldn't judge all bagel-eaters based on the actions of those few with whom you have personal experience."

What would "the line" accomplish in your scenario, except offend and antagonize the poster?

I agree that the line is addressed to the second part, not the first part (though the thinking behind the second part calls into question the reliability of the first part).

The same question you pose could be raised about any possible use of the line.  If it is ever permissible, why not here?

If I said "I think people of race X are generally untrustworthy, because I have encountered people of race X that are untrustworthy," would you hesitate to use the line?

Yes, I would hesitate, because their "assumption" is the least of the problem.  Again, what are you trying to accomplish by using the line?  Are you attempting to shame the poster, or make them think about what he or she is saying?  I would say, "Perhaps your experiences have been unfortunate, but my experiences with people of that race have been very positive."

I can't tell you how many times I have had people say to me, "You know, Mormons (do this that we absolutely don't do)."  I say, "No, we don't."  They say, "No, really, I knew a Mormon who did that..." and then they go on to tell the story.  They are making an assumption, but it would be a valid one in their view because it is based on experience.  Being snarky and pulling out "the line" wouldn't help to improve their views of Mormons, because now they would simply continue believing what they believed before, plus now that Mormons are rude.

I think if you are going to use the line, you should save it for those statements that are so clearly outrageous assumptions that no other line will do.

"All pregnant women are crazy, of course."

"Hot dogs are made out of alien guts, naturally."

"It's understood that Poodles can speak fluent English when the lights are out," and so on.  I just think that the line is being way overused on the board, that's all.

Hope that's okay, jimithing- I don't want to offend you at all.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Bob Ducca on October 03, 2007, 02:26:02 PM
Also, I think we are blurring the line between assumption and opinion.  When someone says, "I think," doesn't that make it an opinion?  Is "what an interesting opinion" acceptable?
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: JordanX on October 03, 2007, 02:55:38 PM
  Is "what an interesting opinion" acceptable?


I think that, in the context of these boards, "what an interesting opinion" still sounds snarky.  It's hard to imagine a context in which the poster doesn't mean something negative (wrongheaded/stupid/ignorant) instead of "interesting."  So, the person stating "WAIO" is trying to shut down another poster without bothering to address the first poster's statements on the merits.

If someone disagrees with my opinion, that's great, and tell me why.  But saying "WAIO" doesn't add anything substantive to the discussion, it just comes across as "your ideas are not worth discussing."  Which is really bad when I'm answering a question that the "WAIO" poster has asked.

I see TAIA to be used when someone is saying something inappropriate and unsolicited.  Because this is a message board designed to encourage discussions and solicit opinions, there are very limited times when TAIA can be used appropriately.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Bob Ducca on October 03, 2007, 03:00:04 PM
I agree with you, JordanX.  I would also find "what an interesting opinion" to be snarky.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: illa_nell on October 03, 2007, 03:32:58 PM
I think the trouble with the phrase in the context of this board is that we all have a very specific idea of what triggers the use of it.  That is, "What an interesting assumption" is for use on absolute boors who cannot otherwise be deflected.  While it may simply be a good deflection line in the rest of the world, the meaning with which it has been imbued here turns it into a deadly insult when used on this board.

I have seen it used inappropriately but I have also felt it to be well done at times.  Those times seem to have in common that the other person in the "debate" was being argumentative and had ceased to have a meaningful discussion in favor of picking apart the poster's comments or making personal attacks. 
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Dindrane on October 04, 2007, 06:23:51 PM
I think the trouble with the phrase in the context of this board is that we all have a very specific idea of what triggers the use of it.  That is, "What an interesting assumption" is for use on absolute boors who cannot otherwise be deflected.  While it may simply be a good deflection line in the rest of the world, the meaning with which it has been imbued here turns it into a deadly insult when used on this board.

I think that might very well be true of all the "lines" that exist on this board.  As best I can figure, they're all intended for use when someone is being so unspeakably rude that you have to say something, but you would otherwise be tempted to be rude yourself.  Such as when someone makes completely inappropriate assumptions or tries to get information out of you that is none of their business.

But given that everyone on this thread is always working with one-sided information, and incomplete information at that (unless every poster tells her life story in each thread), everybody assumes things.  Unless someone is being outright rude in making assumptions, I agree with everyone else who has said it makes much more sense to correct the assumption, rather than just say "the line".
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Bob Ducca on October 05, 2007, 07:47:10 AM
Dindrane, I think that is an excellent point, and very well said.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: RubyTuesday on October 05, 2007, 11:31:56 AM
I agree, Dindrane. The first time I saw one poster say "that's an interesting assumption" to another on this board I was totally blown away. I think everybody on Ehell knows it basically means, "Shut up, you idiot," in nicer language, and for someone on an etiquette board to say that to someone else is almost unbelievable to me.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Felica on October 06, 2007, 08:04:10 AM
*pulls on thicker skin* Whew. Ok, here goes.

I have used this line on this forum. I used it because I asked for opinions in a thread and after the thread got about a page and a half long, my indesicion about what I asked about went away. When I STARTED the thread, I didn't know how I felt about it. After reading several posts from folk here, and thinking things through, I made up my mind about it. And I made a post to this effect, just so people reading would know that I had done so. AFTER I made that post, I did defend my newly decided decision and I did get a bit snarky with one poster because I felt like they implied something about my parenting skills. I realized I was snarky and apologized. But another poster then decided to tell me I had only posted for support, not opinions. I can see where it may have looked that way IF YOU DIDN"T READ THE WHOLE THREAD and saw where I posted about reaching a decision about the whole thing. I pointed that poster to that post, and then another when it came up again. When a third person again latched on to that theory,assuming that I was just posting for support rather than opinions, and that I was now angry that people disagreed with me, I was rather frustrated because one of my worst peeves is people not reading posts fully before they post. So I posted the line. And fully admit is was me trying to find a nice way of ending the conversation without saying 'shut up'.

I've read where several people on this thread think it's wrong to use it here but I disagree. I don't see why if it's perfectly appropriate to use in life, it wouldn't be appropriate to use here. After all, we're all human and we all get our backs up occasionally, and we all make mistakes and need to be called on them. Why would you advocate something to others but not to yourself? Why would the line be ok and proper and NOT rude in RL but wrong here? Are we special because we post here? I don't think so. I know I am just as capable of making assumptions here as I am in RL, and I try to not be offended when someone calls me on them. I've apologized more than once on this board when I realized I was wrong. And someone using the line is a lot easier to swallow than someone telling you what a rude idiot you are.

Of course, this is just my opinion, and I may be wrong.

Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: JordanX on October 06, 2007, 09:29:56 AM
I don't see why if it's perfectly appropriate to use in life, it wouldn't be appropriate to use here. After all, we're all human and we all get our backs up occasionally, and we all make mistakes and need to be called on them. Why would you advocate something to others but not to yourself? Why would the line be ok and proper and NOT rude in RL but wrong here? Are we special because we post here? I don't think so. I know I am just as capable of making assumptions here as I am in RL, and I try to not be offended when someone calls me on them. I've apologized more than once on this board when I realized I was wrong. And someone using the line is a lot easier to swallow than someone telling you what a rude idiot you are.



I think it's fine using TAIA here if you use it under the appropriate circumstances, just like it's only appropriate IRL if you use it under the appropriate circumstances.  IMO, the appropriate circumstances are much less likely to occur on a message board in which everyone is welcome to state their opinions as long as they do so in a polite manner.  Most posts are conducted in this vein, which is why TAIA is often used inappropriately (as it was on me--not by you--when I offered my solicited opinion in a polite manner and was told TAIA).

IRL, it appears that people are prone to offering rude and/or unsolicited opinions, in which case TAIA is a good way to shut them down and end the discussion.  On a message board, trying to shut down another poster/end the discussion is not typically proper behavior, so TAIA has often seemed to be used inappropriately.

I guess I'm thinking that TAIA is really a line that is to be used when someone is being rude, and there just isn't much rudeness on these boards.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Twik on October 06, 2007, 10:49:51 AM
"That's an interesting assumption" is not necessarily "shut up, you idiot". It's (1) a warning that the other person is not happy with that particular conversational trend, and (2) more importantly, a hint that maybe you DO need to go and look at what it is that you're assuming. Often a misunderstanding can be smoothed out quite easily when both parties clarify what their base of thought is.
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: RubyTuesday on October 06, 2007, 11:49:46 AM

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Posted by: Foxxyfox 
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*pulls on thicker skin* Whew. Ok, here goes.

I have used this line on this forum. I used it because I asked for opinions in a thread and after the thread got about a page and a half long, my indesicion about what I asked about went away. When I STARTED the thread, I didn't know how I felt about it. After reading several posts from folk here, and thinking things through, I made up my mind about it. And I made a post to this effect, just so people reading would know that I had done so. AFTER I made that post, I did defend my newly decided decision and I did get a bit snarky with one poster because I felt like they implied something about my parenting skills. I realized I was snarky and apologized. But another poster then decided to tell me I had only posted for support, not opinions. I can see where it may have looked that way IF YOU DIDN"T READ THE WHOLE THREAD and saw where I posted about reaching a decision about the whole thing. I pointed that poster to that post, and then another when it came up again. When a third person again latched on to that theory,assuming that I was just posting for support rather than opinions, and that I was now angry that people disagreed with me, I was rather frustrated because one of my worst peeves is people not reading posts fully before they post. So I posted the line. And fully admit is was me trying to find a nice way of ending the conversation without saying 'shut up'.

I've read where several people on this thread think it's wrong to use it here but I disagree. I don't see why if it's perfectly appropriate to use in life, it wouldn't be appropriate to use here. After all, we're all human and we all get our backs up occasionally, and we all make mistakes and need to be called on them. Why would you advocate something to others but not to yourself? Why would the line be ok and proper and NOT rude in RL but wrong here? Are we special because we post here? I don't think so. I know I am just as capable of making assumptions here as I am in RL, and I try to not be offended when someone calls me on them. I've apologized more than once on this board when I realized I was wrong. And someone using the line is a lot easier to swallow than someone telling you what a rude idiot you are.

Of course, this is just my opinion, and I may be wrong.

 


Posting descriptive past instances of where we used the line is going to lead to trouble, I just know it! For example, I know which thread you are talking about, Foxxy. I recognize myself in your description (as the person who suggested you were "seeking validation"), and I feel you are portraying my role in that thread extremely innacurately. I ducked out of that thread (and without a "goodbye cruel thread" post, too!) because I didn't think correcting your misinterpretation of my post was worth it. When you later posted "the line" to a poster who was arguing some mutated variation of my point, I was glad I did.

But now you're bringing up an old topic in detail, complaining loudly about people that you know can hear you, and my self-restraint just isn't good enough to keep quiet a second time! But since hashing this out on an unrelated thread is inappropriate, feel free to PM me if you would like me to clarify the point I made in my post.

If you were looking for a "nice" way to end the conversation in that thread, "what an interesting assumption" didn't work. I thought your posting the line in that case was abrupt, rude, and showed an incorrect understanding of the word "assumption."
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: Felica on October 06, 2007, 12:02:41 PM
Well, I'm sorry to say I disagree with most of what you posted but see no point in continuing this particular OT conversation, on or off the board. So what say we let it go at that? Agreed?
Title: Re: Misused and abused: Was it really an assumption?
Post by: RubyTuesday on October 06, 2007, 05:33:52 PM
Yep, that sounds good to me, Foxxy. If anything, I would have wanted to clarify that when I posted, I hadn't intended to comment on your motivations, just on your wording of the question. Assigning motivations to an OP is one of my pet peeves on Ehell, and I would be mortified if somebody thought that's what I was doing.

Anyway, we'll agree to disagree.