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General Etiquette => Family and Children => Topic started by: Fleur-de-Lis on August 09, 2010, 06:15:20 PM

Title: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Fleur-de-Lis on August 09, 2010, 06:15:20 PM
I lamented on my Live Journal that boundaries have become erased on public transit (light rail), and used changing a diaper *on the train* as an example.  Granted, the occasion I witnessed featured a lot of other violations, which may color my feelings about it.

A friend of mine with a newborn replied back, "sometimes you have to change a baby's diaper in public."

I don't agree.  I think it's perfectly reasonable to get off the train at the next stop with a bathroom facility (not all stops *have* bathroom facilities) and change the baby's diaper in the bathroom then get back on the train.

Which got me to thinking:  You're driving, say from Grandma's house back home, about a 45 minute drive.  Your baby's diaper becomes soiled.  When do you change the diaper?  Do you pull off to the shoulder right away?  Take the next exit?  Finish driving home?

I'm curious as to the answers.   

Emma
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Kimblee on August 09, 2010, 06:26:56 PM
Well, for my friend's daughter Duckie, it had to be done right then. She could get a rash in less than five minutes.

But few kids are as sensitive as her. (and her mama would have never changed her in front of someone. She could change a kid still in the stroller in no time.)
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: MyFamily on August 09, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
it depends - is the smell noxious, then as soon as we can; if it isn't and the child is not prone to rashes, then it can wait.  If it is a mess though, then it also gets changed right away.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: blue2000 on August 09, 2010, 06:30:32 PM
Other - it depends.

If it is only a few minutes, I would wait until we get home. If it is longer, I would pull over to the shoulder and change the child in the car.

And I wouldn't get off the train. Around here, if you get off, you pay full price to get back on again. And you might miss your connections.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: hellgirl on August 09, 2010, 06:32:54 PM
It can often wait a while with us because our little'un isn't generally bothered by it. If he was distressed however (only happened once, with a major nappy blowout) I'd stop as soon as was practical and do it in the boot of the car. Because I figure it's not fair on him for me to leave him in distress for my own convenience.  :)
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Fleur-de-Lis on August 09, 2010, 06:38:29 PM
Other - it depends.

If it is only a few minutes, I would wait until we get home. If it is longer, I would pull over to the shoulder and change the child in the car.

And I wouldn't get off the train. Around here, if you get off, you pay full price to get back on again. And you might miss your connections.

That I could understand.  

Here, it's light rail, and your fare card is scanned when you go through the fare gate, before you get on the train.  Your card is scanned again when you exit the fare gate at your destination, and your fare is calculated based on distance from embarking station to disembarking station.  You can disembark at an interim stop, not go through the fare gate (the bathrooms are in the "ticketed" section), then catch the next train (during peak times, they run every 15 minutes) to your final destination.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: vorbau on August 09, 2010, 06:40:55 PM
It would depend - how bad the smell is, and how bad the consistency (DS used to have "sudden butt explosion disorder" in the summer, followed immediately by containment failure), and the state of the child's behind. DS was not prone to rashes, but when he did have one, immediately changing him was the only was to prevent it seriously worsening.

That said, I NEVER changed a diaper in a setting as public as mass transit, or the public area of a shopping mall. The closest I came was the back seat of our car in a public parking lot.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Hunter-Gatherer on August 09, 2010, 06:46:33 PM
Well, if I'm more than 15 minutes from home, the chances are that I'd be on some sort of a major highway and wouldn't feel safe on the shoulder anyway, so that gets ruled out straight off.  Depending on the strength of the stench, and how uncomfortable the little guy is, fifteen minutes is probably the normal cut off for my trying to get home, but if I was really tired, or had been driving for a while, or I had some other reason, I might stretch it to a half an hour.  On the other hand, if I knew I wasn't that close and was going to have to stop at some point anyway, I'd take the next reasonable exit/rest stop/scenic overlook/whatever.

Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Brentwood on August 09, 2010, 06:46:57 PM
I'm not sure it's a fair comparison. On public transit, I'd probably be conscious of how the smell might be affecting others. Me in my car alone with the baby? I could put up with it longer than I could reasonably expect strangers to be willing to.

On public transportation, though, it would depend on how many stops there are, if I have to pay to get back on, or where else I might find diaper-changing facilities.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: ipsedixit on August 09, 2010, 06:47:55 PM
I agree it depends.  Are there other people in the car and the smell is horrible?  Yea, I'll probably pull off at the next exit.  

It's just me?  I'll wait till I get home unless the kid is screaming his head off.

I would never do it on public transportation, other public spaces, or on someones couch (as my SIL did this weekend  ::)).  I would wait to find a bathroom or use the back of my car.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: guihong on August 09, 2010, 06:48:28 PM
My daughter's diapers could clear a room, but I would try to get home (under 10 minutes) if already in the car.  Once, we were in Big Store and I changed her in the restroom before shopping.

Waiting even ten minutes only seems to work if it isn't a blowout, and the baby hasn't learned to get out of her clothes and diaper  :-X.

gui
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Surianne on August 09, 2010, 06:53:44 PM
I'm not sure it's a fair comparison. On public transit, I'd probably be conscious of how the smell might be affecting others. Me in my car alone with the baby? I could put up with it longer than I could reasonably expect strangers to be willing to.

On public transportation, though, it would depend on how many stops there are, if I have to pay to get back on, or where else I might find diaper-changing facilities.

I don't have kids, but as a passenger I agree, I think there's a big difference between what you can tolerate in your own car vs. what others should have to tolerate.

On the train, if you can get to a bathroom and put on a clean diaper there, that's great, because then I don't have to smell it!  If you can't, I understand--it happens.  (Don't get upset if I change cars, though!)  Changing it in front of people is not okay. 

In your own car, your preferences rule (based on your own tolerance, or what you know about your baby's sensitivity).
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Rosey on August 09, 2010, 06:56:26 PM
I said fifteen minutes, but the fact of the matter is that I would never change a diaper in public.

My mother once showed me how it was possible to change the diaper while RoseyCheeks was still in the stroller (about five months old). She did just fine and no one noticed that she was changing a diaper . . . until, of course, she had to take the soiled diaper and throw it away.

Of course, the first time I ever stood up to my MIL was about changing a diaper in public. RoseyCheeks was four months old, and we were at an outdoor mall. RC needed her diaper changed, but this shopping venture was at the tail end of ten days of "We do X" and "We do Y." We couldn't find a restroom very easily, so MIL said to RC, "It's okay. We're not too proud to change you on the bench, are we?" And I jumped in with, "No, wait! Sorry, but we are too proud!" I was as polite as I could be, and it really only took us about ten minutes to find a bathroom (although we did have to walk half a mile), but I have a thing about changing diapers in public.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Animala on August 09, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
I think the poll and you're actual question don't line up very well.  If it were 15 minutes or more I would likely try to change the baby.  On the train, I really don't know it would depend on a lot of factors, but changing a little on in public wouldn't be my first choice. 
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Fleur-de-Lis on August 09, 2010, 07:15:54 PM
I think the poll and you're actual question don't line up very well.  If it were 15 minutes or more I would likely try to change the baby.  On the train, I really don't know it would depend on a lot of factors, but changing a little on in public wouldn't be my first choice. 

The point of the poll was really to determine whether the diaper had to be changed *now* (in which case changing it on the train car would be consistent) or whether it could wait <15, 15, or <30 minutes, in which case, given that *here* it's possible to disembark and re-embark mid-trip, it was reasonable to think diaper changing could wait until a stop or the end of the journey. 

Emma
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Sophia on August 09, 2010, 07:17:30 PM
My little one does this painful cry when she has a wet diaper.  Honestly, you would want us to change it right away.  

A train would be tough, though.  I don't like to change her in public, and people are sort of trapped nearby.  
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: blue2000 on August 09, 2010, 07:59:08 PM
Other - it depends.

If it is only a few minutes, I would wait until we get home. If it is longer, I would pull over to the shoulder and change the child in the car.

And I wouldn't get off the train. Around here, if you get off, you pay full price to get back on again. And you might miss your connections.

That I could understand. 

Here, it's light rail, and your fare card is scanned when you go through the fare gate, before you get on the train.  Your card is scanned again when you exit the fare gate at your destination, and your fare is calculated based on distance from embarking station to disembarking station.  You can disembark at an interim stop, not go through the fare gate (the bathrooms are in the "ticketed" section), then catch the next train (during peak times, they run every 15 minutes) to your final destination.

Ah, I see. That would be more like taking BigCity bus here. I would have no hesitation getting off and finding a restroom.

(And I'm green with envy now. I don't live in BigCity anymore. I miss their transit system!!)
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Nurvingiel on August 09, 2010, 10:31:37 PM
If I was on the highway, I'd only pull over if it was safe. If there was an exit nearby I'd take that instead. (I'm not sure what I'd do if my kid got diaper rashes in under five minutes. Probably anything to avoid the rash.)

On the train, no way. I'd get off, even if I missed a connection and had to pay full price to get back on.

Of course, I have no children. We'll see what I say when there's a wee Nurv running around. ;)
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: cicero on August 10, 2010, 06:21:08 AM
in *my* car - i would never pull over to the shoulder to change a diaper. i don't think it's safe and a diaper (even if baby is prone to rashes) isn't enough of an emergency IMHO. I would pull over at the nearest exit/rest stop. For under 15 minutes i would probably just go home. FTR - DS was very prone to rashes and we even stopped using wipes at some point and would wash him under a faucet for most changes so that going home was an easier option

on public transportation - if it's smelly i would get off if possible and use nearest bathroom.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: ACBNYC on August 10, 2010, 07:41:38 AM
in *my* car - i would never pull over to the shoulder to change a diaper. i don't think it's safe and a diaper (even if baby is prone to rashes) isn't enough of an emergency IMHO. I would pull over at the nearest exit/rest stop. For under 15 minutes i would probably just go home. FTR - DS was very prone to rashes and we even stopped using wipes at some point and would wash him under a faucet for most changes so that going home was an easier option

on public transportation - if it's smelly i would get off if possible and use nearest bathroom.

POD to this, I would never pull over on the shoulder. Anywhere between 15-30 minutes in my car would be fine if home were the destination. If I wasn't on my way home, it would depend on where I was going to determine whether I'd pull off to an exit/rest stop or continue on.

There are a lot of "buts" (no pun intended) here, though. If DD were rash-prone, I'd probably do it faster. If I were on public transit and it was really obviously foul, I'd get off the train so as to not gross out the other passengers--assuming I was comfortable getting off and finding a restroom, which isn't always possible if I don't know the area....

Hopefully DD will finish potty training soon so I don't have to worry about this any more.  ;D
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: MrsJWine on August 10, 2010, 07:50:57 AM
I chose 15 minutes or less, but really, it does depend on the situation.  And the kid.  With the younger one, who is still almost exclusively breastfed (we've started with little bits of solid food), it's not as urgent to get it done right away.  If we're on the way somewhere that starts at a certain time, like church, I would wait until we go there.  With the older one, if I don't change her within ten minutes, she gets a bleeding rash.  But she almost never gets a dirty diaper in the car.  I think the last time was over six months ago.  So I didn't factor her in, but if I had, I would have said "next exit."

ETA:  On public transportation, no way would I change them out where everyone could see.  I'm not real familiar with trains, so I can't answer for that, but I wouldn't change them on a plane or bus.  My older daughter is very tall, so if we were in the middle of a long flight, and the bathroom was too small, I don't know what I'd do.  Changing her standing up is still not possible; she's still a little unsteady.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: 2littlemonkeys on August 10, 2010, 09:18:54 AM
If it's a #2, I would probably change it as soon as I could but if I'm only 15 minutes from home, I'll just wait to do it there.  Otherwise, I'd find a place to do it (gas station, rest stop, fast food place) and do the changing in the intended changing place.  Poo on skin for an extended period of time can give them a nasty rash.  

Pee diaper, unless my kid was predisposed to nasty rashes, it could probably wait until we got home.  On long trips, I changed them every time we stopped for gas/food/whatever and also put a layer of diaper cream to help minimize any irritation.

On a train, I'd probably try to change the #2 diaper as soon as I could, not only for the baby's comfort but for those around me. However, I would not be doing it ON the train ON the seat.  (I wasn't sure if you were talking commuter trainer or Amtrak.)  On a commuter bus, I'm not sure what one could do other than wait until they got off.  Our bus stops aren't always near businesses.  I suppose if they had the right kind of stroller, they could get off and change them in the stroller and re-board the next bus, assuming it wasn't in the middle of winter.  I think this is the very reason I avoided buses and trains as much as I could when the girls were little.

On a plane, I'd change them in the bathroom as best I could.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: alegria on August 10, 2010, 09:27:11 AM
I think that pulling over onto the shoulder of the highway is very dangerous and should only be reserved for serious emergencies, generally of the vehicular kind.  While I am not a parent, I'm having a hard time imagining what sort of diaper situation would be so drastic that it would be worth the safety of myself and the child to pull over onto the shoulder to deal with it.

Plus it's not always feasible to pull over even if you're willing to do so.  I'll be doing a road trip in October with a friend and her 5-month-old child, and we'll be pulling my travel trailer along with us.  No WAY can we get a 60' rig safely onto the shoulder of a highway - heck I don't think I could fit my truck alone safely on the shoulder of the highways around here, many of the shoulders would be too narrow.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Curly Wurly Doggie Breath on August 10, 2010, 09:43:40 AM
I put 'soon as posible' net exit.

both had really bad exma and within a couple of minutes a soiled nappy would have caused a bleeding rash
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: HushHush on August 10, 2010, 09:52:48 AM
If its a noxious diaper and I'm on a train, I'd cover the baby as best I could and change it as soon as possible.  The nasty smell would then be gone because I can throw the dirty diaper in a ziploc or plastic bag I always carried with me.  I also always carried a largish receiving blanket, changing pad and lots of wipes to wipe down the area.  If the smell is bad enough for me to leave the train, I wouldn't want to subject others to it any longer than needed.  If I rode a train regularly, I'd even keep a travel size of febreeze or something for emergencies.

An emergency doesn't have normal rules I think.  And in some cases a poopy diaper is an emergency that simply can't wait until the next stop and must be dealt with immediately.  My ds loved broccoli but it gave him the nastiest diapers so I didn't feed it to him if we were going to go on a drive later in the day.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: mechtilde on August 10, 2010, 12:39:50 PM
It depends- mine could have waited until the next service station and a trip to the Parent room. One of my friends had a baby who had to be changed immediately or he got horrific nappy rash. But yes, sometimes parents have no choice. If there are facilities or somewhere private nearby they must be used, but otherwise, sometimes you just have to do it.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Aggiesque on August 10, 2010, 12:42:54 PM
I've never even been on a train.

I've changed many diapers in my lap and in the car, though. I will usually try to go to a private area if at all possible- a true baby doesn't bother me, but I have a 1 yr old now.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: TootsNYC on August 11, 2010, 11:25:05 PM
I think driving and taking the train are VERY different.
Getting off at an exit and getting off at the next train stop are VERY different. Even if it doesn't cost you extra to get back on, you still have a potentially much longer wait, etc. Trains run on their own schedule.

I think that other people shouldn't have to see you changing the diaper, and you should protect surfaces. You should use a separate room whenever possible.


But feces (and feces plus urine especially) can be really painful if it lasts very long at all.

WoogsGal is also right--it's easier to eliminate the smell if I can get the diaper off the kid.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Perfect Circle on August 12, 2010, 02:23:12 AM


ETA:  On public transportation, no way would I change them out where everyone could see.  I'm not real familiar with trains, so I can't answer for that, but I wouldn't change them on a plane or bus.  My older daughter is very tall, so if we were in the middle of a long flight, and the bathroom was too small, I don't know what I'd do.  Changing her standing up is still not possible; she's still a little unsteady.

My daughter is also very tall and luckily now out of nappies, but the last time we flew when she still had them on, it really was a feat to change her. I'm tall as well and squeezing into the loo with the changing table down is a manouvere in itself... I had to balance her on the changing table sideways and bend myself into a totally unnatural position to do the deed.

But I'd rather put up with five minutes of total discomfort than do what I've seen some people do - changing the baby on the airplane seat. That just really is off.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: TheDisappeared on August 12, 2010, 03:18:42 AM


ETA:  On public transportation, no way would I change them out where everyone could see.  I'm not real familiar with trains, so I can't answer for that, but I wouldn't change them on a plane or bus.  My older daughter is very tall, so if we were in the middle of a long flight, and the bathroom was too small, I don't know what I'd do.  Changing her standing up is still not possible; she's still a little unsteady.

My daughter is also very tall and luckily now out of nappies, but the last time we flew when she still had them on, it really was a feat to change her. I'm tall as well and squeezing into the loo with the changing table down is a manouvere in itself... I had to balance her on the changing table sideways and bend myself into a totally unnatural position to do the deed.

But I'd rather put up with five minutes of total discomfort than do what I've seen some people do - changing the baby on the airplane seat. That just really is off.

I've heard some parents with older/larger children say that they take a changing pad or blanket and lay it on the floor of the airplane bathroom, leave the door open, and the parent kneels in the little hallway to change a diaper.  With as small as those bathrooms are this is sometimes the only possible way to change larger babies/toddlers on planes.  It isn't the best option, but it is better than changing them on the seat.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Slartibartfast on August 12, 2010, 06:03:39 AM
Speaking as someone who had to change her daughter on a plane once because another passenger locked herself in the only lavatory for half an hour . . . it depends.  If your baby is in a car seat, their butt isn't moving around - anything in that diaper will stay relatively contained until you get home (and if it's already made a mess, that's not going to change either).  Rash is an issue, but it depends on the baby and the type of "full" the diaper is.  However, if you're somewhere your baby/toddler is moving around - a train, airplane, shopping cart, etc. - then you really don't have as much time because a "mostly full" diaper can go to "leaking" very quickly as your child moves . . .
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: flo on August 12, 2010, 08:08:17 AM
Another issue with the babies that do get the bleeding rash is that they are usually in pain while waiting to be changed which equals fussing.  Bad smell plus crying infant is not a fun combination for anyone!

Youngest DD was one who would get the bleeding rash so we changed her everytime we stopped the car on road trips.  If she went while we were driving, we pulled off at the next exit for a change.  I also used lots of rash ointment to prevent rashes while we were traveling.  DD even had prescription ointment for her rashes.  It worked fast but I had to get the dirty diaper off quickly and get the oinment on so she wouldn't be in pain.

They make little bags to help with the visual and odor issues of dirty diapers once they are off the baby.  With those, no one should even have to see or smell a dirty diaper being disposed of.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: NOVA Lady on August 12, 2010, 09:13:23 AM
Does any of that make it OK to change her on the train in front of everyone? Or is that the reason you'd get right off at the next stop and change her in a more private area?
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: flo on August 12, 2010, 09:15:50 AM
Marina,  Are you asking me?
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: NOVA Lady on August 12, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
Yes, sorry I was trying to avoid a potentially large quote tree :)
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: flo on August 12, 2010, 09:50:52 AM
OK.  I just wasn't sure.

I really have no experience with trains.  I've never even lived in a city that had a really usable public transportation system.  I would love to say that I would never dream of changing a baby on a train but as soon as I do, I will end up with my grandson, on a train, with the contents of his diaper leaking all over me and the person next to me.  I'll have no choice but to change him and wipe down the entire train car with the 7 half dried out wipes left in his diaper bag and then I'll feel like a huge hypocrite!

Seriously, with DD, speed was an issue.  15 minutes would be about 14 minutes too long!  But since we were traveling by car, it didn't bother anyone.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: kingsrings on August 12, 2010, 10:29:36 AM
It just doesn't seem like train or bus travel is the best for babies and this kind of situation. But I know that in some areas, you have no choice.

I've seen plane changings being done in that open area by the emergency exit. The parent lays down the changing pad, and does it there. Seems like the best place to do it, lots of room, you're not taking up the bathroom (and really, they're all so small, how could you possibly have room?), and it's more private.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Sophia on August 12, 2010, 11:11:37 AM
Plus, there are trains and then there are trains.  Subway train, I would probably get off.  Regular train, I probably wouldn't.  Of course, my baby's poop doesn't stink.  Really!  Exclusive breastmilk and cloth diapers equals no smell. 
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: NOVA Lady on August 12, 2010, 12:26:32 PM
OK.  I just wasn't sure.

I really have no experience with trains.  I've never even lived in a city that had a really usable public transportation system.  I would love to say that I would never dream of changing a baby on a train but as soon as I do, I will end up with my grandson, on a train, with the contents of his diaper leaking all over me and the person next to me.  I'll have no choice but to change him and wipe down the entire train car with the 7 half dried out wipes left in his diaper bag and then I'll feel like a huge hypocrite!

Seriously, with DD, speed was an issue.  15 minutes would be about 14 minutes too long!  But since we were traveling by car, it didn't bother anyone.

Thanks for the answer :) I guess a train is a really different situation than a car. OI don't know what solution will be best for the kid but also for the unsuspecting train passengers. Food for though ;)
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: MrsJWine on August 12, 2010, 12:36:56 PM
If at all possible, I think the parent should prepare ahead of time for long rides on public transportation.  Change the baby as close to departure as possible, feed the baby foods that will bind her up (just a little--not so much that it causes constipation), things like that.  I also carry plastic bags with me wherever I go.  I will do everything in my power not to have to change a baby in front of other people.  It grosses me out when it's other people's kids.

That said, sometimes things just happen.  Sometimes a diaper has to get changed, even when you're in front of other people.  I have to see adults who drool on themselves and shout obscenities on the bus, adults who have terrible body odor, bad breath, black teeth and greasy hair.  Sometimes they can't help it; other times they're perfectly sane adults in full control of their faculties.  It's unpleasant, but I don't get angry (well, maybe a little if it's someone who could control it if he chose to, but it's hard to tell that just by looking); it's just a part of living in a world with other people.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Ambrosia Hino on August 12, 2010, 01:02:24 PM
If driving, I would say pull off/over as soon as its safe to do so. Next exit, next parking lot, whatever. Waiting to change the diaper can result in diaper rashes and/or leakage into the carseat, that will stink up the car for the rest of the drive (or longer).

On public transit, I would go with whatever caused the least disturbance to those around you. If exiting the train at the next stop means paying again, I wouldn't do so. Also if it would cause problems with your ultimate arrival time (you'd end up missing a connection, or waiting a long period of time for another ride), I wouldn't do it either. I guess it would depend on how much longer you're going to be on the train/bus/plane...if its only a few minutes, it should be fine to wait...if longer, I'm going to hope there's a bathroom you can use for privacy's sake (and disposal).
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: alegria on August 12, 2010, 01:16:23 PM
Something else just occurred to me - around here, we have "commuter" buses that run from downtown out to a certain area of suburbia without any stops in between.  The length of the trip could easily be 45-90 minutes depending on the distance and the traffic that day.  If someone has a baby who messes during that trip, they literally have two choices: let the child sit in a dirty diaper, or change them on the bus.  Unpleasant for the rest of the bus passengers, yes - but unfortunately unavoidable at times.  As long as the baby could be changed safely, I think it would be the least unpleasant option for everyone involved.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: CakeEater on August 12, 2010, 06:21:58 PM
I don't know if there's a train station in my nearest big city that has changing facilities, so you'd be changing baby in public regardless. And trains run each 1/2 hour or less frequently. There's no way I'd be getting off a train to change a toddler on the platform and wait 30 minutes or longer with a wriggly toddler for the next train.

I'd be changing them on the train floor with a mat as far away from others as possible, or in their pram, as far away from people as possible.
Title: Re: Delay in changing a diaper
Post by: Brentwood on August 12, 2010, 06:50:16 PM
If at all possible, I think the parent should prepare ahead of time for long rides on public transportation.  Change the baby as close to departure as possible, feed the baby foods that will bind her up (just a little--not so much that it causes constipation), things like that.  I also carry plastic bags with me wherever I go.  I will do everything in my power not to have to change a baby in front of other people.  It grosses me out when it's other people's kids.

That said, sometimes things just happen.  Sometimes a diaper has to get changed, even when you're in front of other people.  I have to see adults who drool on themselves and shout obscenities on the bus, adults who have terrible body odor, bad breath, black teeth and greasy hair.  Sometimes they can't help it; other times they're perfectly sane adults in full control of their faculties.  It's unpleasant, but I don't get angry (well, maybe a little if it's someone who could control it if he chose to, but it's hard to tell that just by looking); it's just a part of living in a world with other people.

I agree. Sometimes you have to choose the lesser of two evils, and no matter what you do someone won't like it and will be critical either way.