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General Etiquette => Etiquette of the Rich and Famous => Topic started by: MyFamily on July 18, 2011, 11:38:47 PM

Title: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: MyFamily on July 18, 2011, 11:38:47 PM
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/392225/justin-bieber-and-selena-gomez-crash-malibu-wedding/

Basically, it seems that Justin Beiber and his girlfriend, Selena Gomez, were driving around and heard one of his songs being sung at a wedding so they stopped and crashed the wedding for about 10 minutes.

Some of the comments say it was a nice thing to do, others say it was rude.

What says E-Hell?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: MaggieB on July 18, 2011, 11:56:55 PM
I don't really know.  On one hand, I wouldn't really like it.  But I also wouldn't be blasting Justin Bieber music at my wedding.  Now if Tim McGraw wanted to crash my wedding, well my future husband just better hope it's after we'd already taken our vows.   ;) :P
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: C0mputerGeek on July 19, 2011, 12:19:52 AM
Part of me wants to say it's rude, but if Prince were to crash my wedding - or any other wedding I was attending - I know I would be delighted. It seems churlish for me to make an exception for one artist and not another just because I am a Prince fanatic. I voted other.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: MadMadge43 on July 19, 2011, 12:26:45 AM
I actually think it's pretty cool. If it was the reception and no the ceremony and any artist that was playing at the reception wanted to stop by and say hello, I'd be thrilled.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: JoieGirl7 on July 19, 2011, 12:56:20 AM
I don't think its rude.  He wasn't there to be a guest.  And it looked like he crashed the reception not the wedding.
 
If he wants to do this on a regular basis though, he should wear something more appropriate.  That T-shirt was really fugly.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: shhh its me on July 19, 2011, 01:04:49 AM
  I think playing and artist song or singing in karaoke (as in this case) it a singal their presence would be appreciated , at least for ten minutes and a few photos.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: MaggieB on July 19, 2011, 01:05:57 AM
Part of me wants to say it's rude, but if Prince were to crash my wedding - or any other wedding I was attending - I know I would be delighted. It seems churlish for me to make an exception for one artist and not another just because I am a Prince fanatic. I voted other.

Yeah, I agree with this.  Justin Bieber had reason to believe a brief appearance would be welcome (they were playing his song) and he only stayed ten minutes.  He meant to do a nice thing, and I think most people would think it's cool.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: PeterM on July 19, 2011, 01:13:07 AM
My wife and I were just discussing this and we came up with a list of celebrities who are always allowed to crash a wedding.

Bill Murray, 'cause he's guaranteed to make it a good time for all.

Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn, 'cause it was in the fine print of their "Wedding Crashers" contracts.

Barry Manilow, 'cause he writes the songs.

The Dalai Lama, but only at golf-related weddings. Big hitter, the Lama.

Elvis, 'cause hail to the King.

And, of course, any member of a mariachi band.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: TaylorMade on July 19, 2011, 01:49:13 AM
My wife and I were just discussing this and we came up with a list of celebrities who are always allowed to crash a wedding.

Bill Murray, 'cause he's guaranteed to make it a good time for all.

Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn, 'cause it was in the fine print of their "Wedding Crashers" contracts.

Barry Manilow, 'cause he writes the songs.

The Dalai Lama, but only at golf-related weddings. Big hitter, the Lama.

Elvis, 'cause hail to the King.

And, of course, any member of a mariachi band.

Love you list Peter!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Sharnita on July 19, 2011, 06:14:03 AM
Honestly, there are plenty of musicians whose music I love but whose persona might be disruptive at best, and very possibly unpleasant.  Maybe a tween guest at the wedding asked to hear a JB song - doesn't mean the HC want him at the wedding, even for 10 minutes.  If I was getting married I don't know that I'd think to put him on the forbidden list wiht the DJ but I wouldn't want him dropping in.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: MyFamily on July 19, 2011, 06:51:58 AM
I agree with everyone else, but I also feel it is kinda rude - afterall, just because someone likes a song or even a singer's music, that doesn't mean they like the singer.  I can think of some famous people who I may enjoy the work they do, based on what I know about them personally I don't like them.  So, I'm not sure that it is obvious that just because they were playing his song they would obviously want him to be at their wedding.

Also, while I don't believe the wedding day is all about the HC, this does feel like he took the focus off the purpose of the reception and put it on himself.

But, it does appear from the article that the HC was happy about this and if his dropping by helped make their wedding reception more special for them, than that is great.  And the reasons for while it could be rude are what I feel, I don't feel strongly that this is a problem - they feel more like 'what if's' then legitimate reasons why it could be rude.

So, that is why I posted the story here.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Reuth on July 19, 2011, 07:34:25 AM
I vote that he was rude. I'm glad that it turned out well in this case, but there was no guarantee. I'm sure there were many songs played at my reception that I didn't even know who the singer was, and I certainly wouldn't have wanted them to turn up!

What's really bothering me is the first sentence of that article:
"While not everyone can say their wedding was the best day of their lives, for one lucky couple, it will ring true even if things don't work out."
Really? The best day of your life would be that time you met some teen celebrity for 10 minutes??
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Outdoor Girl on July 19, 2011, 09:02:11 AM
It sounded like a more casual reception at a venue that couldn't be closed to the public.  So really, anybody could have walked by the reception site.  Most of us wouldn't barge in but we might make eye contact, smile and wave on the way by.

So while Justin and Selena were technically rude, I think it was a nice thing to do.  If they'd pulled up a chair and bellied up to the bar for the rest of the night?  That would have been RUDE!.   :D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Reuth on July 19, 2011, 09:06:56 AM
It sounded like a more casual reception at a venue that couldn't be closed to the public.  So really, anybody could have walked by the reception site.  Most of us wouldn't barge in but we might make eye contact, smile and wave on the way by.

So while Justin and Selena were technically rude, I think it was a nice thing to do.  If they'd pulled up a chair and bellied up to the bar for the rest of the night?  That would have been RUDE!.   :D

For this reason, and the fact that he only stayed a few minutes, I'm going to change and say it was "questionably rude". Because it was apparently motivated by good intentions and was not just a "hey look at me!"
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Akarui Kibuno on July 19, 2011, 09:11:23 AM
Honestly, there are plenty of musicians whose music I love but whose persona might be disruptive at best, and very possibly unpleasant.  Maybe a tween guest at the wedding asked to hear a JB song - doesn't mean the HC want him at the wedding, even for 10 minutes.  If I was getting married I don't know that I'd think to put him on the forbidden list wiht the DJ but I wouldn't want him dropping in.

I was waiting to see if someone would say this in a way I could not quite say it, but this is it. I can totally imagine my 13 years old sister begging for this song... and then BAM nightmare come true. Ugh.

It would be rude of me to be a spoilsport and turn him away (and my sister might as well kill me as I think she is of the Belieber category, if not worse... I think the only reason she does not have posters of him in her room is because she likes horses more) , but it's even ruder of him to just come up.

To the HC, and to the poor GF who has to wait while he plays the star.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Wonderflonium on July 19, 2011, 09:13:29 AM
I'm trying to think of someone whose music I like but who I wouldn't want to show up. My first thought was Britney Spears, but then I thought, who am I kidding? I bet she'd be fun. Of course, if the HC loathes Bieber, it would be a different story.

I vote technically rude but probably not a big deal.

What's really bothering me is the first sentence of that article:
"While not everyone can say their wedding was the best day of their lives, for one lucky couple, it will ring true even if things don't work out."
Really? The best day of your life would be that time you met some teen celebrity for 10 minutes??

I know!!!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Shoo on July 19, 2011, 09:40:30 AM

To the HC, and to the poor GF who has to wait while he plays the star.

Selena Gomez is actually a pretty big star in her own right. 
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Wonderflonium on July 19, 2011, 09:42:02 AM

To the HC, and to the poor GF who has to wait while he plays the star.

Selena Gomez is actually a pretty big star in her own right.

But not necessarily at this wedding. I mean, if she stood off to the side and people weren't begging her for pics, too, she might not have been a big deal to them.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Akarui Kibuno on July 19, 2011, 09:45:29 AM

To the HC, and to the poor GF who has to wait while he plays the star.

Selena Gomez is actually a pretty big star in her own right.

But not necessarily at this wedding. I mean, if she stood off to the side and people weren't begging her for pics, too, she might not have been a big deal to them.

Yes, that's what I meant.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: staceym on July 19, 2011, 10:04:58 AM
this is a tough call - only because I'm not a fan of Beiber and I have heard of other instances where he has "crashed" in on things..one being a press conference Johnny Depp was doing for Rango...I think Beiber has a high, VERY HIGH level of self esteem.


but on the other hand it would probably be very cool, if the person whose song I'm playing unexpectedly showed up
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Lynnv on July 19, 2011, 10:09:30 AM
I think it was rude.  I would not be pleased if he showed up at my event and decided to crash it.

On the other hand, I would be fine if someone whose music I actually liked showed up (partying with Lemmy or Iggy Pop could be fun...if a bit strange).

I am not sure if that means Beiber was rude but I would be willing to overlook rudeness for an artist I like.
Maybe it means that Beiber wasn't really all that rude and I am letting my dislike of his music influence my thoughts on the matter.

Hmmm.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: rose red on July 19, 2011, 10:17:07 AM
It depends on how he made his presence known.  Did he stroll in and announced himself, or did someone noticed and asked him to stay?  Did he ask someone about the event and that person spread the word?  I guess if they didn't want him there, they could say a few words and then say goodbye "Well, it's nice meeting you.  Have to get back to the party.  Bye."

I guess 10 minutes is no big deal unlike staying to eat, drink, and dance.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: kglory on July 19, 2011, 04:00:39 PM
I think it was polite of Selena to stand off to the side, given that she is a big star also.

Too many famous people crashing this wedding would put the focus more on the famous people and not on the bride & groom.  So if Justin wanted to pop in, it's good he kept it quick and that she stayed out of it, to keep it a small moment in this big day.

Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Mikayla on July 19, 2011, 04:03:47 PM
I'm surprised by some of these answers, but I wonder if the person doing the crashing impacts the responses?  There was a thread about Oprah doing the same thing where people weren't so kind.

I agree that the fact someone was doing karaoke to one of his songs might impact it a little bit, but I still call it rude.  And that's even if he only stayed a few minutes.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Master_Edward on July 19, 2011, 04:50:07 PM
For the record I'm not a Justin Bieber fan. If the happy couple was fine with it then who are the rest of us to complain about it? I'd probably like it if a singer I was a fan of crashed my wedding. Say for example, Martina McBride!

So I voted other.

Ed.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: O'Dell on July 19, 2011, 07:31:28 PM
It's rude to join a party when you aren't invited. The couple in this case may have been fine with it, but technically it was rude. There are some celebrities or even non-celebrities that I might happily welcome to the party once they crashed it, but I'd still quietly be thinking it was rude.

If this couple weren't fans of his, then how awkward would that have been?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Flora Louise on July 20, 2011, 09:30:41 AM
Justin Bieber is a real person? I always thought he was computer-generated.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Piratelvr1121 on July 20, 2011, 02:09:04 PM
I'm not really sure.  I mean I'm not a huge fan of Bieber but I could see one of my younger girl cousins requesting a song at a family wedding but that wouldn't mean they'd want Bieber popping in (The HC, that is)

However, if had been my wedding and we'd been playing some Rolling Stones song (very likely!) and Keith Richards dropped in for a few minutes I'd be inviting him to stay longer! LOL!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Spring Water on Sundays on July 20, 2011, 02:40:49 PM
For the record I'm not a Justin Bieber fan. If the happy couple was fine with it then who are the rest of us to complain about it? I'd probably like it if a singer I was a fan of crashed my wedding. Say for example, Martina McBride!

So I voted other.

Ed.

I agree. The bride and groom weren't offended or upset, and it was their party. No harm done.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: ghost on July 20, 2011, 07:16:36 PM
I voted rude.

I look at it this way: I com from a pretty big family. It is incredibly rare that I get to be the center of attention, for various reasons. If someone decided that they were entitled to crash in on the one time that I get to be in the spotlight, and took that attention away from me - and I know this sounds childish, but it's how I feel - I'd be more than incredibly upset. I'd be hopping mad. I would be angry and resentful.

It's great that everything turned out okay in this situation - but that doesn't make what he did right. The ends do not, in any way, justify the means.

I find it beyond rude that Justin Bieber - a young man that already has the attention of millions - feels entitled to take the attention away from a couple of random strangers, just because he can.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Larrabee on July 20, 2011, 07:49:51 PM
Justin Bieber is a real person? I always thought he was computer-generated.

The Onion is thinking along the same lines...

http://www.theonion.com/video/disney-lab-unveils-its-latest-line-of-genetically,14268/
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: #borecore on July 20, 2011, 07:58:48 PM
My first impulse was "Yes!" but thanks to some posters' well-thought-out words, I reconsidered. I think it made their day special and memorable in an unexpected way, so I can't really say it was straight-up rude.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Sharnita on July 21, 2011, 05:41:38 PM
Something that occurresd to me - even if I objected to JB popping in I'm not sure I would state that publicly. His fans are pretty rabid - i don't know that I'd want to be on the wrong side of them.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: ghost on July 21, 2011, 09:44:49 PM
You bring up a very good point, Sharnita.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Akarui Kibuno on July 22, 2011, 01:41:19 AM
Something that occurresd to me - even if I objected to JB popping in I'm not sure I would state that publicly. His fans are pretty rabid - i don't know that I'd want to be on the wrong side of them.

To be honest, this is actually one of the reasons why I think it's all the ruder that he dropped in... because you never know what crazy fans might be doing, and someone could have seen him, and made a scene, things like that. Especially if he had lots of fans at the wedding :D .

But what can I say. If I saw a star I did not like I still would be polite to them, simply because I do not believe in being a "hater" ... I may not like the star, but that doesn't mean I get to ruin their mood by disliking them to their face when they have done nothing to me  ;D.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: nolechica on July 22, 2011, 03:26:06 AM
As long is the HC remained happy, I'm fine with it.  Then again, pretty sure I can think of some singers that are welcome to crash my (eventual) wedding.  >:D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Iris on July 22, 2011, 05:04:15 AM
I'm not a fan of JB particularly, but DDs are. If he turned up at a family function that was me-centred I'd be thrilled, for their sake. Someone at the party clearly liked him. I really don't see how it would have been such a big screaming deal even if the HC weren't particularly fans - would it absolutely have killed them to have the spotlight taken off them for 10 minutes. I'm sure some of their guests loved it.

So, meh. They were playing his song, he only stayed 10 minutes. I'd give him a pass, even if Emily Post wouldn't.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Spring Water on Sundays on July 22, 2011, 07:54:33 AM
In my opinion, for a rudeness to exist, there has to be a victim. There is no victim here, therefore no rudeness. To whom was Beiber being rude?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: ghost on July 22, 2011, 12:44:49 PM
But Beiber had no way of knowing whether or not the HC would be thrilled to have him there or not. My sister specifically requested Queen's "Fat Bottom Girls" and Sir Mix a Lot's "Baby Got Back" at her wedding. I'm not so sure she would have wanted the remaining members of Queen or Mr. Lot to come crashing in her wedding. Heck, if Zombie Freddie Mercury came waltzing it, I'm sure she would have been a less than thrilled.

would it absolutely have killed them to have the spotlight taken off them for 10 minutes. I'm sure some of their guests loved it.

So, meh. They were playing his song, he only stayed 10 minutes.

Killed them? No. But I would be upset.

Would it kill Justin Beiber to stay out of the spotlight when he's not directly invited into it?

I'm sure some of the guests loved it - which means that, even after Beiber left, it could still have been a big focal point, when the focal point should really be the HC.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Spring Water on Sundays on July 22, 2011, 01:01:21 PM
But Beiber had no way of knowing whether or not the HC would be thrilled to have him there or not. My sister specifically requested Queen's "Fat Bottom Girls" and Sir Mix a Lot's "Baby Got Back" at her wedding. I'm not so sure she would have wanted the remaining members of Queen or Mr. Lot to come crashing in her wedding. Heck, if Zombie Freddie Mercury came waltzing it, I'm sure she would have been a less than thrilled.

Clearly, there was the potential for rudeness, but since the the only people who had any claim to be offended were, in fact, the opposite of offended, no rudeness occurred. For him to be called rude, there had to be someone to be rude to. He wasn't rude to anyone. In many situations, I wouldn't say "the ends justify the means," but in some cases, I think both intent and the end result are important factors in deciding how severely etiquette was violated.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: WhiteTigerCub on July 22, 2011, 01:24:13 PM
I think I read that JB and Selena were walking by the venue from the beachside when they heard JB song being played. If the venue was open to the public and JB happened to just "stick their heads' into the room, that's not at all crashing a wedding.

In my definition of crashing, JB would have sat down to eat/drink/dance/party on the HC dime. 

In a public venue there is nothing wrong with anyone congratulating the HC on their marriage.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Shoo on July 22, 2011, 02:20:50 PM
I think I read that JB and Selena were walking by the venue from the beachside when they heard JB song being played. If the venue was open to the public and JB happened to just "stick their heads' into the room, that's not at all crashing a wedding.

In my definition of crashing, JB would have sat down to eat/drink/dance/party on the HC dime. 

In a public venue there is nothing wrong with anyone congratulating the HC on their marriage.

I agree with this.  To call this crashing a wedding is sort of exaggerating.  They didn't crash the wedding.  They popped in for a few minutes. 
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: MamaMootz on July 22, 2011, 03:56:42 PM
I voted rude because, in my mind, you don't go to a wedding to which you're not invited.
Famous or not. 10 minutes or 10 hours. You don't.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Iris on July 22, 2011, 06:11:49 PM
But Beiber had no way of knowing whether or not the HC would be thrilled to have him there or not. My sister specifically requested Queen's "Fat Bottom Girls" and Sir Mix a Lot's "Baby Got Back" at her wedding. I'm not so sure she would have wanted the remaining members of Queen or Mr. Lot to come crashing in her wedding. Heck, if Zombie Freddie Mercury came waltzing it, I'm sure she would have been a less than thrilled.

would it absolutely have killed them to have the spotlight taken off them for 10 minutes. I'm sure some of their guests loved it.

So, meh. They were playing his song, he only stayed 10 minutes.

Killed them? No. But I would be upset.

Would it kill Justin Beiber to stay out of the spotlight when he's not directly invited into it?

I'm sure some of the guests loved it - which means that, even after Beiber left, it could still have been a big focal point, when the focal point should really be the HC.

Maybe we just view weddings differently or just have different experiences. For me, if he'd interrupted the ceremony it would be completely inexcusable because that really IS all about the HC and nobody else at all in the whole world. The reception is a celebration of the marriage and more inclusive of family and friends, to me. Also,  if this had happened to me I know the talk afterwards would have been "Wow, what a treat on your wedding day. We're so excited for you two that you'll have a great story to tell!" rather than "Woohoo! Justin Beiber!"

Then again, my criteria for how much I like anything - up to and including hurting myself - is how good a story it will make so maybe it's just my own unique viewpoint.  ;D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Reika on July 22, 2011, 10:18:40 PM
I voted rude because, in my mind, you don't go to a wedding to which you're not invited.
Famous or not. 10 minutes or 10 hours. You don't.

My thoughts exactly.

And I found this to be vaguely creepy actually. Given that he's a popular singer amongst the teens, I'm sure there's quite a few places that play his music. Is he going to just pop into all those random places everytime he hears his music?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Winterlight on July 25, 2011, 08:43:48 AM
I voted rude because, in my mind, you don't go to a wedding to which you're not invited.
Famous or not. 10 minutes or 10 hours. You don't.

This.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Mammavan3 on July 25, 2011, 12:45:53 PM
Not a JB fan here; I doubt I'd recognize him if I passed him on the street.

But I can imagine the excitement among younger family members should this have occurred at a family wedding.  Even the older guests would have an interesting story to share with their friends.  As a host, I think that anything as innocuous as this that gives my guests pleasure is not rude.

Justin Bieber is a pretty inoffensive personality; had someone like Sinead O'Connor done it, I think it would be a different situation entirely, but then I'm also sure that most celebrities have a pretty good idea of who comprises their fan base and who doesn't.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Balletmom on July 26, 2011, 08:35:09 PM
My wife and I were just discussing this and we came up with a list of celebrities who are always allowed to crash a wedding.

Bill Murray, 'cause he's guaranteed to make it a good time for all.

Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn, 'cause it was in the fine print of their "Wedding Crashers" contracts.

Barry Manilow, 'cause he writes the songs.

The Dalai Lama, but only at golf-related weddings. Big hitter, the Lama.

Elvis, 'cause hail to the King.

And, of course, any member of a mariachi band.

POD, only I'd have to agree to a whole mariachi band.  ;D

I guarantee you that the Beibs showing up at a family wedding would not only be a lifetime memory, it would also take away the lifetime memory of certain family members guaranteed to act badly.

A dump truck driving into the venue would also do the trick, in our family.

 
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: kitchcat on July 27, 2011, 08:48:35 PM
Goodness, when I tell DH about this he's going to be so jealous. I think I'm married to the only fully-grown man who went BY HIMSELF to see JB's movie Never Say Never in theaters. 

I voted rude because I personally wouldn't want my wedding to be remembered only as the wedding where a certain celebrity showed up. Also, the attitude he must have had to go do that seems a little off to me. He probably realized it was a wedding before he was seen, yet proceeded to go and take the attention away from the HC and put it on himself. Another "who does that?"
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Giggity on August 04, 2011, 06:52:01 AM
This right here, kids, is why everyone should elope.

Only YOU can prevent drive-by Bieberings.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Wonderflonium on August 04, 2011, 08:14:53 AM
This right here, kids, is why everyone should elope.

Only YOU can prevent drive-by Bieberings.

 ;D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: RubySlippers on August 07, 2011, 11:10:28 AM
I voted "Not Rude".  While showing up at a wedding that one was technically not invited to, it's not like he is someone's ex and was specifically NOT INVITED!!!!1111
I guess when one of my sons eventually get married, I'll have to leave a list at the reception of people who are allowed to drop in for 10 minutes:
the Queen
the band Queen
Any classic rocker
and, of course, Alan Rickman, Jeremy Irons and/or Hugh Jackman

but - what if I miss one who happens to be passing?  What if Sean Connery hears the pipes (which we will have whether my son wants them or not) and I didn't specifically put him on the list???  Do we turn him away?

Not rude - totally fun - and 10 minutes of Justin Bieber beats 10 minutes of my MIL any day.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Wolfgirl on September 23, 2011, 07:20:10 AM
Not rude - but certainly dangerous. If anyone PLAYED JB at my wedding, there would have been words exchanged. The words may have been wrapped round a brick thrown at the DJ.

IF the scary manchild with disturbingly effeminite voice   man himself turned up, well... there would have been an INCIDENT. International peace keeping forces may have been involved.  >:D

However now I'm worried that High Jackman, Alan Rickman, Josh Holloway and scores of other lovlies were turned away from my wedding cos I forgot to leave a list at the door. OH NOES! No, seriously, a part of me really thinks they may have wanted to dance with me!   ;D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: BeagleMommy on September 23, 2011, 01:33:39 PM
I voted rude because it was not a public event even if it was held in a public place.  This man/child always seems very entitled and seriously immature for his age.

Now if Adam Levine and the rest of Maroon 5 showed up; different story.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: nolechica on October 21, 2011, 04:03:29 AM
I voted rude because it was not a public event even if it was held in a public place.  This man/child always seems very entitled and seriously immature for his age.

Now if Adam Levine and the rest of Maroon 5 showed up; different story.

That's my thing, we all have our exception, not ok for Bieber but...
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: mrs_deb on October 21, 2011, 09:44:06 AM
I saw this in my neighborhood Walgreens last night, and thought of this thread:

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Now he can crash your bathroom!
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Virg on October 21, 2011, 10:00:27 AM
nolechica wrote:

"That's my thing, we all have our exception, not ok for Bieber but..."

This is what spins it for me.  Mr. Bieber didn't plan ahead to crash, he heard one of his songs, and he stayed for ten minutes.  Given all of that, it can reasonably be said that he could expect to be welcome at the reception (if the HC truly despised him the odds of his song playing are lessened) and he didn't stay long enough to change the focus of the event.  He may have been strictly against etiquette but there's a lot of vitriol aimed at him here for something that's relatively minor.   Is it really polite to make slurs at him about this?  What place does "manchild" have on an etiquette forum?

Virg
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: rose red on October 21, 2011, 10:29:23 AM
I don't get it either.  Several posters (on more than one website) say it's rude and Justin Bieber is an entitled attention-hogging brat, but then they throw in "however, if it's so-and-so, that's fine because I love them  ;)  >:D "  No.  If it's rude for one, it's rude for all. 
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Reika on October 21, 2011, 10:54:19 AM
I don't get it either.  Several posters (on more than one website) say it's rude and Justin Bieber is an entitled attention-hogging brat, but then they throw in "however, if it's so-and-so, that's fine because I love them  ;)  >:D "  No.  If it's rude for one, it's rude for all.

Yep that's my feeling. Even if it was an actor or singer I loved that did that, I'd still be seriously cheesed off.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Onyx_TKD on October 21, 2011, 11:55:08 AM
I don't get it either.  Several posters (on more than one website) say it's rude and Justin Bieber is an entitled attention-hogging brat, but then they throw in "however, if it's so-and-so, that's fine because I love them  ;)  >:D "  No.  If it's rude for one, it's rude for all.

There are a lot of things that are unquestionably rude, but that individual people wouldn't mind (or at least, they wouldn't mind it from certain people). I interpreted those posts to mean "It's rude for a celebrity to show up uninvited, even if they hear their music being played. But despite that, I'd personally be thrilled if Artist A showed up at my wedding." IOW, the action is rude, but they personally would enjoy if certain of their favorite artists showed up.

The problem, of course, is that there is no way for the celebrity in question to know beforehand who would appreciate their presence and who would hate it (regardless of what music is being played), which is why it's rude to show up uninvited.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: Lisbeth on October 21, 2011, 12:06:20 PM
I voted rude, but if "Well intended but rude" were an option, I would have voted that.

I'm reminded of Oprah crashing a wedding several years ago.  We posted all about that.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber crashes a wedding
Post by: C0mputerGeek on October 21, 2011, 03:14:27 PM
I don't get it either.  Several posters (on more than one website) say it's rude and Justin Bieber is an entitled attention-hogging brat, but then they throw in "however, if it's so-and-so, that's fine because I love them  ;)  >:D "  No.  If it's rude for one, it's rude for all.

Hence, why I voted 'not rude' because if Prince crashed my wedding I would shriek like a teenybopper. It's hard for me to says its rude of Bieber when I would be delighted if Prince were to do this to me.