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Isn't Dudley's number for his business? Unless what you had to discuss with him pertains to that business, why shouldn't you call him at the home number?

Agreed. Doesn't Dudley use the home phone for the 8 months his parents (is that right? They're his parents?) are *not* in residence? Or is his cell use exclusive?

I think the weirdness comes in because you rang Petunia and immediately asked for Dudley - had you had the conversation with Petunia and THEN asked for Dudley I doubt anyone would have said anything

I was thinking that myself almost as soon as I hit the post button.

Guess I shouldn't have been so focused on what I needed to ask Dudley.  ^_^
Agreed. It also sounds like your asking for Dudley confused them so they thought you weren't their relative Lily but since other Lily.

It does seem more polite to talk to the primary owner of the phone first and then anyone else who may be around.

To the bolded: I'm careful to do this when I'm calling someone's home. Maybe a few minutes chatting with Fred and Petunia before asking, in an offhand way, "Oh is Dudley available?"
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Time For a Coffee Break! / Re: In Retrospect, I Should Have Walked When....
« Last post by bloo on Today at 04:20:43 PM »
That is not only lack of money management skills but also involvement with shady "businesses". Bad, bad combination.

It is funny how people see leaving someone for lack of financial common sense as being a gold digger, more interested in money than love, etc. Yet money problems cause a huge amount of head ache, specially if you manage money well and your partner doesn't.

Agreed - it's said that the two most common topics of disagreement in a relationship are sex and money.  If those are the two hot buttons, why are sexual difficulties such as infidelity considered "acceptable" dealbreakers, but financial disconnects invite heavy judgement such as not being a suitable reason to split?  Baffling.

I think it's because, at least in western society (I can't speak to any others as I don't live in them), people aren't supposed to care about money. So leaving someone because he betrayed your trust (cheating) is one thing, but leaving someone because he just can't hang on to his paycheck long enough to pay the bills is shallow and mercenary. The best things in life are free, money can't buy happiness, etc. etc.

It's just that a lot of people, when not in a situation and not thinking about it particularly extensively, don't make the jump from "he can't manage money" to "not having money means being perpetually unable to support the household". And they don't make the mental leap to seeing that not having the means to support the household even though the household's income ought to be able to manage it puts undue stress on the relationship (and especially on anyone in the household who can manage money, and sees their hard earned income slip through the other person's fingers). It also leads to the same lack of trust that cheating does, since a spouse who can handle money would stop trusting a spouse who couldn't.

But on a superficial level, love is supposed to be enough and make all those problems meaningless. It's just that in practice, that is pretty much never true.

Even harder is having to justify breaking up with someone whose financial management is just incompatible with yours, even though both of you are perfectly capable of managing money. That's not even a case of facing constant poverty...but it would lead to constant fighting. I wouldn't blame anyone for ending a relationship that looked to be headed towards constant disagreements about something as essential as how to pay for things, but I think that's even more a situation where some people think love should overcome those obstacles.

Agreed totally with all of you!

When my brother was in his late 20's he looked like he was going places financially (he hasn't really) so he was, for some reason, quick to be on the lookout for any 'gold-diggers' (I guess that would be women interested in money?). But in talking about it with him, he seemed to think less of women who were *sensibly* interested in money.

I finally told him that if he dated and married a woman that wasn't sensibly interested in money *at all*, he'd be marrying a pretty stupid woman. You can't live on love. The landlord, mortgage company, electric company and grocery stores (among others) want cash money, baby. Maybe checks.

He's in his forties now and has since come to understand what I was talking about.
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I think the weirdness comes in because you rang Petunia and immediately asked for Dudley - had you had the conversation with Petunia and THEN asked for Dudley I doubt anyone would have said anything

I was thinking that myself almost as soon as I hit the post button.

Guess I shouldn't have been so focused on what I needed to ask Dudley.  ^_^
Agreed. It also sounds like your asking for Dudley confused them so they thought you weren't their relative Lily but since other Lily.

It does seem more polite to talk to the primary owner of the phone first and then anyone else who may be around.
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Isn't Dudley's number for his business? Unless what you had to discuss with him pertains to that business, why shouldn't you call him at the home number?
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Time For a Coffee Break! / Re: Your own personal mysteries.
« Last post by Elfmama on Today at 03:45:37 PM »
I bought two forks with roses on the handle at Goodwill.
Someone must dig through my local Goodwill silverware bin on a daily basis.  I've never seen any good Oneida stuff, just the cheap pot-metal Walmart flatware.  Or maybe they put the good stuff up on Ebay. 
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When I am running a quick errand and I have on "I don't care" clothes, I will see an old flame or the mother of my daughter's friend. The mother will always look like Beyoncé or Halle Berry while I look like Whoopi Goldberg from The Color Purple.

Yes! When I was in 8th grade (the height of potential embarrassment!) my mom was going to the store one evening and I wanted to go so I could buy in ice cream. I was already in my pajamas so wanted to change, but she needed to leave right then. She assured me that nobody I knew would be there so I went. Yeah I ran into my very good friend and, even worse, her brother who was my boyfriend! Of course I wanted to die. It's a story we still laugh about to this day (I'll be 40 this year). Whenever she says "What's the worst that could happen?" she looks at me and we laugh.

The other day I needed to return some books to the library. They have an outside drop-box so I quickly brushed my hair, threw on something, and took off. Of course the box was disabled and I had to go inside. Then DH (who'd decided to ride along) needed to go to the store to get some lunch and it was 100 degrees out so no way I'm waiting in the car.

Oh! My son does this thing where whenever he finds a sequin, rhinestone, etc. he gives it to me. I used to be silly and stick them to my forehead until one day I was running errands and kept getting funny looks. Got home and DS says "Wow mom, I can't believe that stuck for so long! Usually they fall off." Yeah I had completely forgot and had a huge green rhinestone thing stuck to my forehead the whole time. LOL!!
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Time For a Coffee Break! / Re: Swearing three year old
« Last post by Sirius on Today at 03:22:24 PM »

My sister's older son came to her one day when he was about 7, and asked her, "Mom, what does@#$%^&*@#$%$#@ mean?"  She said it was some of the worst profanity she'd ever heard up to that point.  Her son wasn't swearing; he was just curious as to the meaning.  She told me she gave him an abridged definition, but told him, "That's a very bad word and I don't want you to say it."  He said, "Okay," and she never heard him say it again.  Older Son is now 35 and an Army vet with three tours in Iraq under his belt, so I don't doubt he's said it in recent years, but never in front of his mother.  (Especially since he knows that his mother would have quite a bit to say about it if he called her that.)
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Time For a Coffee Break! / Re: Your own personal mysteries.
« Last post by Sirius on Today at 03:10:33 PM »
I bought two forks with roses on the handle at Goodwill. 
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Time For a Coffee Break! / Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Last post by Sirius on Today at 03:07:03 PM »
Great news everyone! According to not one, but two emails that somehow ended up in my Spam folder today, Sveltana wants to marry me!

I'm so delighted! Thank you, Russian bride spammer.

Can I now plan an atrocious shower with a gimme-pig gift registry that will elicit an epic collective gasp from all of you? Please? Pretty please?  >:D

Svetlana wants to marry me, too.  The hussy.
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On nights when I don't feel like working, that's when they all dictate long reports during the day that are waiting to be finished.  Or, the one doctor who only shows up once or twice a week will dump a bunch of dictations into the system and want them all done stat. 

Why, yes, this happened last night.
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