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She said it wouldn't have been kosher, except he did buy a ticket, so it was fine.
(I don't mean to speak for OP, just didn't want to leave you wondering in case she isn't back soon.  :))

Essentially, yes. It was one of those gray - area things, where it wasn't really okay because of the "new" status of the movie, but it was semi - legitimate because he bought tickets. Believe me, even if my best work friend did that, I wouldn't feel great about it. To try to put this in a non - movie context, it would be like buying the last of a seasonal food item once you got off work, and no customers could get any until tomorrow. You can do it, but it's not very nice - in fact, it's kinda greedy. It's essentially saying, "I know I can see a movie on slower days, when it's not crowded, for free and get free concessions*, but I don't want those times - I want to come see it when it's crowded and lots of non - employees want to see the new movie that literally came out days ago." We have rules about movie watching for a lot of reasons - people ended up abusing the system a lot before Awesome GM came on board, and this is a way to make it fair.

*We get free popcorn and drinks when we come see a movie, but any other concessions - nachos, candy, and so forth - we have to pay for.

If Larry had come back by himself, I would have seen it your way, but since he came back with his family, and they all paid for their tickets, I don't see anything at all wrong with it - his family probably was thrilled to be able to see a movie with him on a day when non-retail workers are off, not just at the slower/less crowded times when many of his family members are probably working.

He shouldn't have been distracting you, though.  That part was definitely out of line.

I'll concede that reasonable people can see it different ways. :) I don't want to seem as though I think everything is bad if it's done by Larry, but not by anyone else. I just feel icky about the practice of going to a just - out movie while employed there in general, and the bothering me didn't help.

As an aside, Larry also went home early again today, because it was again fairly dead for a Saturday (I don't know how bad it was today, but yesterday we were supposed to make 11 grand for the whole day and only made 2 grand by 5 o'clock). I was cleaning the booster seats, so couldn't be seen when Michael told Larry he, unfortunately, had to clock out for the day after the 4 o'clock rush. I heard Larry say loudly, "Is Violinp leaving too??" almost in a defensive voice. Michael's response was very quiet comparatively, so I didn't catch all of it, but he essentially said, "We only need one ticket tearer tonight, and Violinp is going to be it. You need to clock out now." I know Larry's asked to know my schedule, and has talked of himself and me in the collective a good bit, but...to say that to a manager? And besides, what should Larry care whether I stay or go? If I stay, he can't help me out, and if I go, he doesn't need to worry about me. Sheesh.
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She said it wouldn't have been kosher, except he did buy a ticket, so it was fine.
(I don't mean to speak for OP, just didn't want to leave you wondering in case she isn't back soon.  :))

Essentially, yes. It was one of those gray - area things, where it wasn't really okay because of the "new" status of the movie, but it was semi - legitimate because he bought tickets. Believe me, even if my best work friend did that, I wouldn't feel great about it. To try to put this in a non - movie context, it would be like buying the last of a seasonal food item once you got off work, and no customers could get any until tomorrow. You can do it, but it's not very nice - in fact, it's kinda greedy. It's essentially saying, "I know I can see a movie on slower days, when it's not crowded, for free and get free concessions*, but I don't want those times - I want to come see it when it's crowded and lots of non - employees want to see the new movie that literally came out days ago." We have rules about movie watching for a lot of reasons - people ended up abusing the system a lot before Awesome GM came on board, and this is a way to make it fair.

*We get free popcorn and drinks when we come see a movie, but any other concessions - nachos, candy, and so forth - we have to pay for.

If Larry had come back by himself, I would have seen it your way, but since he came back with his family, and they all paid for their tickets, I don't see anything at all wrong with it - his family probably was thrilled to be able to see a movie with him on a day when non-retail workers are off, not just at the slower/less crowded times when many of his family members are probably working.

He shouldn't have been distracting you, though.  That part was definitely out of line.
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Life...in general / Re: Rude MLM Salesperson
« Last post by sparksals on Today at 12:16:18 AM »
Consultants like that give those like me a bad name.  I sell a beverage and when I bring cash and carry to a party, I still give the hostess credit for it. I use the purchase to turn around and buy more demo product.

That consultant was horribly rude and you did the right thing.
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Plus...extra dishes...why?  ;D

The answer is: "Because people deserve to be fussed over."
(Shrug) different circles, for sure.
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Plus...extra dishes...why?  ;D

The answer is: "Because people deserve to be fussed over."
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Life...in general / Re: Rude MLM Salesperson
« Last post by StarDrifter on Today at 12:00:23 AM »
You absolutely did the right thing bringing the salespersons' attitude to the attention of the hostess.

If you were unable to purchase from the discount table without buying from the catalog then she should have made that clear during her presentation or with some signage, instead of being so rude to potential customers.

As far as 'only' buying from the discount table, if there is one, I will also gravitate that way. But most people I know who are part of MLMs are not pushy, and if they've got a discount table they make it clear if you can buy from there alone or if you need to also purchase from the current range in order to select a discounted/discontinued item.

If I'd been the hostess I would be very grateful to you for bringing the salespersons' attitude to my attention, because I'd be refusing to host her 'parties' in future if someone behaved like that towards my guests.
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Techno-quette / Re: No one cares about your baby!
« Last post by gellchom on Yesterday at 11:44:55 PM »
You have a lot more power to ignore it on FB than you do in real life though. It's much harder to block or I friend someone in real life.

That's true.  But -- and I'm really asking; I think it's an interesting question, and I don't know the answer, or even if there is an answer -- does the fact that it's easier to ignore something change whether it's rude to do that something? 

I do think that it makes a big difference in whether you should respond, and, if you do, how. 

But does it change whether the behavior is rude or obnoxious?  Is it okay, for example, to brag or be passive-aggressive or racist so long as it is fairly easy for others to ignore? 
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Life...in general / Rude MLM Salesperson
« Last post by yokozbornak on Yesterday at 11:35:02 PM »
A friend invited me to a jewelry party at her home.  I usually don't attend these parties, but I just started a new, professional position and thought that getting a couple of pieces of nice, costume jewelry would be a good idea (mistake #1) plus friend just moved into a new house and wanted me to see it.  The jewelry pieces pretty much what I could find at any department store, but the prices made my eyes pop out a bit.  A necklace, bracelet, and a pair of earrings were around well over $100 which is just not in my budget for costume jewelry especially because many of the pieces were made of plastic beads.

The salesperson did have several pieces set out that were being discontinued from the catalog that she was selling at a discount so I, along with at least one other person, decided to just purchase one of those because we wanted to support our friend who was the hostess (mistake #2).  I went to pay her for the piece that I wanted, and saleperson told me that I couldn't buy it unless I bought something out of the catalog and that I wasn't helping my friend out by buying from the discount table.  I thought she was joking because I couldn't believe she said that so I stated that while I would love to help my friend out, I just didn't have the budget to buy something from the catalog.  She became very snippy and again stated that if I couldn't be bothered to buy from the catalog then I wasn't allowed to buy anything from the discount table.  I laid the piece back on the table and said that I wouldn't be buying anything. The other lady stated that she didn't have the budget to buy from the catalog either and put the piece she had down, too.

This all happened in front of several other people, and I was truly embarrassed. My cheeks are still flushed from the whole incident.  I did pull the hostess aside before I left and explained what had transpired, and she was mortified.  As I was leaving, the salesperson, waved airily and said, "Thanks for coming!" I muttered a snarky response under my breath and left.

I am now second guessing whether I should have said anything to the hostess or not.  If not, should I call her to apologize? She wasn't in the room when the incident happened, but it did put a damper on the rest of the party and I felt she needed to know what happened.  Also, was I breaking an unwritten code by only buying from the discount table?  I am the person who usually only shops the clearance rack at stores so I didn't think I was being rude, but I usually don't attend these parties so I wonder if I committed a faux pas.

The silver lining is that I am going back to avoid these parties like the plague.
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DS has speech issues. He calls DD "Sir", short for Sister. We don't even notice anymore, once we figured out where the Sir came from (we referred to her as Sister/Your sister regularly).

On topic, I hadn't heard of any of the rules in the OP before. I grew up in a lower middle class family, as did DH, and sometimes I think our relatives would feel we were putting on weird airs if I try to use higher class etiquette rules. I like the idea of returning a dish with something in it, provided someone ever gives me a non disposable dish. I don't think we'll be putting food into new containers for serving though, the pans and bottles are perfectly capable of containing the food so it doesn't run all over the table. And I'd feel awkward if my table looked "better" than my grandmother's, or MIL's. Plus...extra dishes...why?  ;D
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Techno-quette / Re: To refriend or continue blocking in-laws?
« Last post by JoW on Yesterday at 11:32:21 PM »
How is family information shared?  Whatever medium they use you have to use if you want to know about that stuff?  How does your DH feel about that side of the family?  Does he have a facebook account?  Maybe he should be the one to track them (friend and follow them).  If you are tired of their nonsense and don't care what they do, don't friend them. 

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