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Entertaining and Hospitality / Re: what to serve with chicken wings?
« Last post by lmyrs on Today at 01:44:43 PM »
Are you looking for another "side" or another "main" for people who don't want wings? If it's a main, I'd go with meatballs or pizza.
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I would probably let it go at this point and make alternative plans with your friends. If making the trip work was a priority for Sandra, she would have called you back. That's disappointing, I'm sorry. :(

Sorry to say, that's kind of how I feel about it too.  Seems like Sandra gave a 'gift' she wasn't really wholly prepared to give.  I'd make other plans with your friends and then if something materializes concerning the use of Sandra's property a whole new set of plans could be made then.

That's my take as well. Gifting something that needs to be coordinated with other family not involved with the gift and on top of that restricting it to a five month window seems to me like they were hoping that they wouldn't be able to find a weekend so the gift certificate would never be "cashed". That way they would look generous without actually giving something.
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Life...in general / Re: Gift confirmation deadline awkwardness - advice?
« Last post by Take2 on Today at 01:31:17 PM »
I feel like sticking up for Sandra. OP has contacted her twice and gotten slightly slow replies both times, it has only been a bit over a week since the conversation started, OP has quite a few limitations her calendar is imposing on the gift, which is fine, but not Sandra's fault at all. It seems very premature to count this gift as not happening just because it requires 3 or 4 contacts to hammer out the details. I have had time share rentals where I paid that took more effort and were fine!
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Time For a Coffee Break! / Re: your favorite recipe site
« Last post by artk2002 on Today at 01:29:54 PM »
America's Test Kitchen (and all pages related): totally worth paying for the subscription. Simple food most of the time, but tried and true recipes.

I can testify to the fact that they actually do test their recipes. Mrs.k2002 has tested a bunch of them on us. Some great, some not-so-great. She gets an e-mail from them with a new recipe every once in a while.
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I have a Google Drive spreadsheet that uses Google Translate to translate into 90 languages at once. PM me your email if you'd like me to share it with you.

I have no real use for this; however, my first thought was: "Ooooh, I want this!"  (Sorry, you may now return to things that are on point.)

Likewise. I don't see where I'd use it, but I want it. ;D

I only cooked it up to make it easier to IM things like "Thank you" to co-workers in random languages.
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Life...in general / Re: Driving etiquette: Signage vs "local customs"
« Last post by HoneyBee42 on Today at 01:11:17 PM »
My own experience is that local custom trumps everything, because if you don't follow it, you'll be like Edward Day, who died contesting his right of way.

"His case was clear, and his will was strong,
But he's just as dead as if he were wrong."

But if you're not local, how do you know what the custom was?  In my example above, where the 'custom' was to ignore the traffic light turn signals, if that lady had hit me, custom wouldn't have prevented her from being held liable, or getting a ticket. 

Another custom in my area is to stop dead in the middle of the road (during bumper to bumper traffic) and wave people into the road from side streets.  I have read on this forum (Special Snowflakes I think) that doing that is an insurance liability, as the waver assumes responsibility for giving the other car safe passage or something.  Plus I see far too many cars sticking perpendicular in my lane while trying to turn into the far lane of traffic, just begging for an accident to happen.  I won't follow that custom, even though I know about it.

Hopefully there aren't real-life examples of that poem, where someone was hurt or injured just because they didn't know the custom, and were following the rules.
Agreed--I always took that poem to mean that sometimes you yield even when the other guy is clearly wrong because insisting on the right-of-way would likely lead to an accident.  For example, one time, I was at a T-intersection which was controlled by a traffic light.  I was turning left from the street that dead-ended at the intersection and had the green light.  In fact, there were two cars ahead of me that had turned left, and I was about to complete the turn when some guy going straight in what was to be my new direction of travel ran the red light.  I stopped and let him run the light and then proceeded with my turn.  Yes, he was 100% wrong, but if I'd insisted on proceeding because I had the green light and he had a red light, there would have been an accident.

Local custom should not be so bizarrely at odds with the rules of the road that someone who isn't local would be at risk simply by following the rules of the road (now, there does get the issue of making sure that you've studied up if you travel across state lines, but that's another issue).
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Many years ago, when I was a healthy blonde 20-something, I had a job that was held by very few women. I was sent to spend a couple of days working with "George," our employee in Boondockville. Boondockville was a tiny, isolated mountain town where everybody knew everybody. George was in his 40s, married, and had lived there all his life. He ran a one-person operation.

My employer had begun a widget calibration service, and George was not yet certified to do this. This was not going to be a big part of George's work, so it was cheaper to have me, the next time I was in his neck of the woods (literally "woods"), spend a couple of days with him, show him how to do it, and sign off on the forms for him.

So we cruised around Boondock County, calibrating widgets. Come lunch time, we went to Café Where Everyone in Town Hangs Out. George had a wicked sense of humor and he pointed out to me that half of the patrons were staring at us, trying to figure out why he was lunching with a good looking young woman who was obviously a stranger in town. He asked me to play along with his game. Several people finished lunch, got up and wandered over to our table to say "howdy" to George. George pointedly did not introduce me to them. Others just stared and gossiped. George and I pretended not to notice, while he clued me in on who they were. He was particularly pleased to see the minister.

The first calls to his wife (who knew about my visit) went out right after lunch. We returned to George's office just in time for him to catch Wife's call to him. She was laughing so hard, she could barely speak. Later, George gleefully told me that it was the talk of the town for days.
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Even beyond the sheer obnoxiousness of the "request", allergies would have me saying, "Sorry, no.  Not happening."  >:(
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All In A Day's Work / Re: How to respond to indirect, non-apology
« Last post by rose red on Today at 12:59:24 PM »
Jodie never apologized to the OP. She's hearing a fleeting moment that happened to the coworker in a second hand way. What if the coworker got busy or sick and forgot Jodie even stopped by? Unless an apology happened to me directly, it didn't happen (even an email will suffice). Like others suggested, I'd wouldn't say anything. Because you don't randomly say something out of the blue for something that didn't happen.
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Entertaining and Hospitality / Re: what to serve with chicken wings?
« Last post by doodlemor on Today at 12:56:37 PM »
In Buffalo, NY, the city where the wings were invented at the Anchor Bar, it is traditional to serve wings, pizza, celery with blue cheese dressing, and beer. 
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