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Pigtails only involves pulling half the hair into a band and the other half into another band.  Braiding=plaits. 

In the UK (to my knowledge at least) pigtails are two plaits on either side of the head.

Since I didn't realise pigtails could refer to more than one hairdo (I've always called the other option "Bunches") I've included an image of what I was referring to:

See (and I'm an editor who works w/ fashion & beauty terminology in the U.S.), those in the pic are *braided* pigtails. A subset of braided pigtails. (and easier to plait than a ponytail would be)
   Pigtails are two, either high or low. Ponytail is one. Braiding is a separate thing and can happen with either, but is not required, and must be specified, since the default term refers only to the gathering of the hair. 

As for the boys and the different exits--boys use the same exit for both sexual functions and elimination. And if they haven't personally looked closely, they may not know there different passageways. Especially, well, it *is* sex ed, so this is when they're learning.

The way that I had always used the term matches what Toots said.  Ponytail is one, pigtails is two, braiding is a separate feature.  I'd usually say "braids" to mean two (braided pigtails) and "braid" to mean one (braided ponytail).  However, I knew my usage of the terms wasn't universal, because in older writing I'll often see mention of a Chinese man with "a pigtail," and in my vernacular you can't have a single pigtail.  I always assumed that to mean that it was low on the neck (what I'd call a "low ponytail"), but I'm guessing that actually what they meant was that it was a low single braid.  I've also occasionally seen older books mention a girl in "ponytails."  I wonder if there's an American/UK difference, if it's regional, or if it's a changing nature of the word over time thing?

I remember being very concerned, as a teen, about boys using the same exit for both functions.  What if the guy really had to , let's say, "eliminate" during Scrabble?  Would it go into the woman?  Etc.  I think I was pretty much fully an adult before I understood about the suppression of one function in favor of the other, etc.
All In A Day's Work / Re: Can't you see I am busy??
« Last post by TheaterDiva1 on Yesterday at 12:32:26 PM »
Physically forcing the person out of your office - not by pushing, just by standing up, moving around to in front of your desk, and herding them out the door verbally and by walking in that direction - may help chronic violations to get the message.

You also may want to move your sign from being at eye level, where no one will look, to being taped over your doorknob, where they have to touch it to enter.

Or once you're in the office, have someone tape the sign over the edge of the door (half on door, half on wall) almost creating a seal a person would have to break in order to open the door. I doubt anyone will be too anxious to break the seal.
Trans-Atlantic Knowledge Exchange / Re: Divided by a common language...
« Last post by Margo on Yesterday at 12:27:37 PM »

George Bernard Shaw, in his writings, insisted in spelling "show" as "shew"; but I suspect that in this, he was just attention-seeking.

Well, he was a proponent of spelling reform, and phonetic spelling, which may have influenced him.

94 general / Re: Interactions On A Plane? (No Snakes Involved)
« Last post by Peppergirl on Yesterday at 12:25:10 PM »
I also agree with the others: I'd be willing to bet that, had she asked even a bit politely, he may have complied.  Instead she was an SS about it, which never lends itself well to getting anyone to comply. 

If it had been me and she asked politely, I either would have found something else to watch or would have tilted the screen away from her - simply out of courtesy and because I try to be a reasonable person.   

However, the way she behaved and went on-and-on with her demands and her 'how can you watch that?' (which is a definite trigger for me)...heck no!

Edited to fix grammar, and because I noticed I skipped a word.
95 general / Re: S/O Knee jerk reaction - was this rude?
« Last post by cb140 on Yesterday at 12:23:20 PM »
I'm sort of wondering why you didn't all go home when the midwife came over. I'm thinking that maybe Catherine was feeling pretty invaded in general, with other people in her home for a length of time long enough that they needed to entertain themselves.

And I see gramma dishes' point; I don't know that I would have sent my 7yo upstairs to even the same floor in that situation.

If my 7yo was that antsy, I've had been taking us home.

Yes, true. We hadn't been there all that long (I'm thinking around 20-30 minutes), and it was quite a long drive (around 2 hours), which is why going home wasn't something that occurred to us, but I absolutely agree with hindsight that I'm sure Catherine probably felt invaded and stressed. I remember feeling very similar with guests after giving birth.

Regarding him being upstairs unsupervised, though - that in itself is definitely not something she would have minded. She was always quite happy for him to go up and play on the computer (pre-baby, I think she preferred him being out the way so that we could have adult conversation), and he knew he was allowed to. I think what threw things was that nobody had expected that she would take the midwife into the (small, without a bed) spare room rather than her own large master bedroom. As I said in another post, I wonder whether the bedding was soiled and so she was embarrassed to (which of course would have made it far worse that her 7 year old nephew then went in there).

I have no doubts that she was entitled to be upset and angry. My only question was whether she over-reacted and, if so, was that understandable given the circumstances?
Thanks for your input everyone! It's really helped me think this through. Here's where I'm landing -- I'm going to do a quick resource (bullet points, nothing overly impressive) and send it to her with a "draft" watermark and clearly state that it's a rough outline of the process that I use. Then, I'll write the blog and turn the "full" resource into a white paper. Whenever a blog is added to our website the marketing officer e-mails everyone with the link and it posts to FB, Twitter and LinkedIn. It will include my info as the author.

To the copyrighting - my employer copyrights most things. I didn't double-check, but I'd be willing to be that the info in example A was already copyrighted by us. My employer also owns my intellectual property related to any work resources.


Make sure you send it as a PDF or she'll be able to go in and remove the watermark. 

...or what greencat says
PDF can often be turned into a word doc so be careful.
97 general / Re: S/O Knee jerk reaction - was this rude?
« Last post by gramma dishes on Yesterday at 12:15:12 PM »
I'm sort of wondering why you didn't all go home when the midwife came over. I'm thinking that maybe Catherine was feeling pretty invaded in general, with other people in her home for a length of time long enough that they needed to entertain themselves. ...

If my 7yo was that antsy, I've had been taking us home.

I agree with Toots.  This was a three or four day old baby.  If I remember correctly, even our own parents (the babies' grandparents) didn't come to see the babies until they were about a week old and even then stayed only about an hour or so.  All other visitors (friends and neighbors) stayed more like ten or fifteen minutes!
98 general / Re: S/O Knee jerk reaction - was this rude?
« Last post by cb140 on Yesterday at 12:14:11 PM »
I think everyone was in the wrong here. Catherine over-reacted. Your son should not be wandering around unsupervised in the upstairs of someone else's house. Your son should not be bouncing on someone else's mattresses, as mattresses are expensive and bouncing isn't good for them. Andrew asking you to leave seems over the top.  When you first mentioned that he went upstairs, I was sure you were going to say that he wandered into a room where a gynocological exam was going on. Eek. This situation could have been worse.

Everyone should have apologized. This ended up being blown into a much bigger problem than it should have been. If I were you, I would take the first step and apologize for letting him go upstairs alone.

Wow yes, it would have been even worse if he'd ended up bursting in on her examination! Although I do wonder if this may have happened, at least partially, as he would have headed straight to the spare room, as he would have had no idea she was in there. But hopefully he was headed off at the pass - certainly that didn't form any part of her ranting, which was purely about him bouncing on their bed.

This has only just occurred to me today, but I wonder whether her bed was - um - soiled in some way which might have explained why she took the midwife into the spare room which on the face of it was an odd decision because there isn't a bed in there, just a sofa-bed/futon type thing which wasn't made up as a bed. That might explain (not that explanation is needed) why her reaction was extra-strong - she might have been embarrassed?
99 general / Re: Interactions On A Plane? (No Snakes Involved)
« Last post by cheyne on Yesterday at 12:08:04 PM »
The gentleman on the plane must be an ehell member, he handled that interaction with politeness and class.

Maybe it's because I didn't grow up looking at computer screens, but unless I'm facing a screen full-on I have a hard time making out the images on it.  I may catch movement and vague shapes, but unless the screen is turned toward me I can't fully see what's on it.  I would have no trouble ignoring what my seat mate was watching.

SS lady needed to mind her business and leave her fellow passengers alone.
100 general / Re: S/O Knee jerk reaction - was this rude?
« Last post by Kiwipinball on Yesterday at 12:03:55 PM »
Sorry, I have to confess I'm totally with Team Catherine here.

Remember, she didn't give the child permission to even be upstairs.  She probably didn't even know he was up there, much less that the MIL had told him it was okay for him to go by himself. 

Second, most adults consider their bedrooms to be very private areas.  Sure they may let their OWN children into their bedrooms, but not other people's children.  The master bedroom is almost like a sanctuary where outsiders definitely do not belong.  I'd be very upset to find a child in my room at all, much less jumping on my bed in my bedroom, especially if I didn't even know he was upstairs. 

I don't think my initial reaction would be any different whether I happened to be "hormonal" or not!

Frankly, I suspect her tirade was really intended as much for you and for the MIL (for allowing him upstairs without her knowledge or permission) as it was for him.  I think she and her husband both thought all the other adults in the house should have known better.
Allowing him to go upstairs when everyone knew a (possible) gynecological exam was taking place was a true invasion of privacy on every imaginable level.

Catherine had every right to be angry.

I see where you're coming from, but if she's mad at MIL or OP, I think it's really inappropriate to take that out on the child. I'm not as anti-yelling at kids as some posters (particularly in the other thread are), but that seems especially not okay to me.

That being said, given she was hormonal/sleep-deprived/whatever, I wouldn't hold it against her. Might be mad/irritated/righteously indignant for a few days and then I'd get over it. But parents of a child who is not neurotypical might also be more protective - that sort of tirade could be more (or less I suppose) damaging than to a more neurotypical child.
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