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Re: Your holiday hill to die on.
« Reply #195 on: December 06, 2011, 09:38:39 PM »
I was able to fully recognize my hill after my little sis showed me her hillÖ and lo, it was the Same Hill... Mom always insisted that we eat some of everything and every year we all had tummy aches.... I finally stood up to my mom and told her that I wasnít going to eat everything.  A tummyache-free Thanksgiving!!  Wow.  It was a whole new world...  Now, hubby and I go to my SILís house for TG and I eat  4 things.  Iím sure you can guess what they are. Everyone keeps insisting that I canít eat just turkeymashedpotatoesgravystuffing.  I insist otherwise.

Yea for you! The most fun part of Thanksgiving for me is cooking a bunch of stuff so everyone has a selection of their favorites, but I know not everyone will eat anything. I am the only one of the family who will eat purple food - beets, that cranberry sauce from a can that is so yummy and other people make fun of here. My kids like peas and I will not even touch one (they have to cook their own). And you can never eat too many mashed potatoes!

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Re: Your holiday hill to die on.
« Reply #196 on: December 09, 2011, 04:34:42 PM »
This was a great thread.  I just want to add that there is a craft Christmas tree that is a flat board and has holes drilled in it.  It is available iln craft stores, it needs to be sanded, (the holes are rough) and it needs to be stained or painted.  The holes fit Christmas lights and it stands alone.  It is about two feet tall.

When my daughter was in college she lived with two other women in a tiny one bedroom apartment.  Two of them slept in the bedroom and one of them slept on the couch.  I bought and made the tree and they put it up against the wall in the living room.  Didn't take up any room and she is a Christmas nut so was quite happy.

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Re: Your holiday hill to die on.
« Reply #197 on: December 10, 2011, 06:42:29 PM »
Mine is simple.

My house.  My guest list.  Strict no jerks allowed policy.

Which means since Uncle can't bring himself to not torment my critters (and those other guests are permitted to bring, like my cousin's seeing-eye dog), he doesn't get to come, and Grandfather cannot cope with the fact that my beloved nephew has a parent of a different ethnicity than everyone else in the family, he will not be invited. 

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« Reply #198 on: December 12, 2011, 01:57:06 PM »
My hill to die on came this year. We leave town on the 23rd to drive 3 hours to see the ILs (who I do adore but have a tiny house), then drive 3 hrs on Christmas to see my family (hopefully the location 20 miles from our house, otherwise it's another 2 hour drive back home). Then my family stays for two days, we get less than one day alone then have to drive 5 hours (with a time change) on the 29th for my Dad's extended family's celebration on the 30th, then drive 5 hours home early on the 31st.

My parents are giving me grief for deciding not to add an extra 6 hours of driving on the 31st to see her extended family, in the middle of Ohio, in a church basement for 3 hours during what should be the boys' nap time & then drive home on New Year's Eve just when things will start getting crazy out. Nope, not gonna do it. I love my Mom's family but we are way closer (& have more fun!) with my Dad's family plus we just saw my Mom's family over the summer (same location but easier to do since it was summer) whereas I haven't' seen some of my Dad's family since the boys were born 3 years ago.

I also laid down the law with DH that from now on Christmas would be at our house. It's hard to travel & then stay in a tiny house with only one bathroom for four adults & two rapidly growing children. I hated traveling at Christmas & as DH never did he doesn't get how awkward it can be to stay at someone else's house (as we're going to his old house it's not an issue for him). Quite frankly if DH can't agree to travel at least one year to my parent's for Christmas Day (he refuses as that would be too far from his parents on Christmas *sigh*) & make them travel every year then his parents can travel as well (we're smack dab in between both sets of grandparents). It's hard to do anything at the ILs during the winter because (a) there's just not much to do outside there in the winter because (b) MIL & FIL just don't do much in general but go to the casino & watch TV & do you know how insane two preschoolers get when they're cooped up for three days straight? And how insane their mother gets becuase no one will do anything? It's not fun at all.

He also tries to pull the "must be with his mother on her birthday" which happens to be December 25 but I keep pointing out that I haven't been with my mother on her birthday in at least 10 years & in his family Christmas is celebrated on Christmas Eve so the 25th is just a birthday to his family & unless it's a milestone birthday, his Mom won't care (she's told me this). I think DH thinks that the world will end if he's not with his Mom but I also point out that for the boys' first Christmas (when I refused to travel with preemies) & his parents were supposed to come to us, they didn't because of the weather. And somehow MIL was A-OK with not having us there on her birthday & we had a lovely time the next weekend ::)

Plus, the boys are getting into the whole Christmas thing & I would love to see them come down the stairs to a pile of gifts under our tree on Christmas morning. We'd still get to see both sides of the family with the benefit of doing it in our home! I understand traditions are important but it's also important to make new traditions. So from now on we agreed that his family would come out & stay with us through Christmas morning then after they leave, we go to my Aunt & Uncle's house to be with my family & spend the nights in our own beds.

Oh, that felt good letting that all out!

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Re: Your holiday hill to die on.
« Reply #199 on: December 12, 2011, 01:57:21 PM »
Mine is simple.

My house.  My guest list.  Strict no jerks allowed policy.

Which means since Uncle can't bring himself to not torment my critters (and those other guests are permitted to bring, like my cousin's seeing-eye dog), he doesn't get to come, and Grandfather cannot cope with the fact that my beloved nephew has a parent of a different ethnicity than everyone else in the family, he will not be invited.

On behalf of your nephew, thank you. I'm of two races and as I was growing up I started to notice how poorly my grandmother treated my mother, and how my dad did nothing about it. I was her only grandchild, so she was nice to me, but she made my mom miserable. It really made me rethink my relationship with both my grandmother and my father, and I wish he had stood up to her for us. Good for you for refusing to tolerate that nonsense from YOUR family.

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Re: Your holiday hill to die on.
« Reply #200 on: December 14, 2011, 08:12:11 PM »
Mine is simple.

My house.  My guest list.  Strict no jerks allowed policy.

Which means since Uncle can't bring himself to not torment my critters (and those other guests are permitted to bring, like my cousin's seeing-eye dog), he doesn't get to come, and Grandfather cannot cope with the fact that my beloved nephew has a parent of a different ethnicity than everyone else in the family, he will not be invited.

On behalf of your nephew, thank you. I'm of two races and as I was growing up I started to notice how poorly my grandmother treated my mother, and how my dad did nothing about it. I was her only grandchild, so she was nice to me, but she made my mom miserable. It really made me rethink my relationship with both my grandmother and my father, and I wish he had stood up to her for us. Good for you for refusing to tolerate that nonsense from YOUR family.

Yeah, I agree.  Both reasons you listed for not inviting folks are perfectly acceptable in my book too.  I have two dogs and three cats and if you can't be nice to animals...or at the very least, just ignore them....you're not welcome in my house.
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Re: Your holiday hill to die on.
« Reply #201 on: December 15, 2011, 03:56:49 PM »
I have two small hills...

Hill #1 -- Was two Christmases ago, and my first Christmas with DF.  Prior to Christmas, DF had told me about FBIL's money and procrastinating woes, often turning to DF for a money "loan" (often not paid back).  Anyway, one of the things FBIL had done previously was called DF, often last-minute, and asked DF to add FBIL's name to the Christmas presents DF bought for their relatives and that FBIL would pay DF a portion to cover (also not always done).  On CHRISTMAS EVE, DF is contacted by FBIL asking to add his name to our gifts (gift baskets that I'd thought about for a month and had already put together).  DF looked stricken, and I was pretty irritated that DF would even consider it (FBIL was out finally doing his Christmas shopping when he contacted DF and wanted to get out of shopping for their relatives).  I sternly looked DF in the eye and said, "No, FBIL could buy something that goes with the theme of each basket, but he doesn't get to add his name to the gifts.  We [DF and I] are now a social unit and are giving these gifts as a social unit.  I also put a lot of time, thought and energy into these gift baskets and am not FBIL's personal shopper.  However, if you really want to add his name to the gifts, then you take my name off the gifts so you may give them with your brother instead."  I know I was a bit harsh with DF, but DF doesn't know how to say no, which is why FBIL has had so many years of taking advantage of him where money is concerned (I adore FBIL, but this is one of his really weak areas).  Unless DF had a clear consequence where I was concerned, he would've given in.  Also, we'd already had a situation earlier in the year when FBIL was dating a woman and on Valentine's Day borrowed money from DF to give her a good Valentine's Day dinner out.  I pointed out that FBIL's girlfriend didn't get to have HER boyfriend and mine and that money that DF can't actually spare that goes to FBIL is taken away from DF being able to spend on our own relationship (I know there are those who will disagree with me having any say in how DF spends money, but I needed him to see the path of how FBIL spending DF's money frivolously, too, affected our ability to afford to go anywhere or do anything).  I've always thought FBIL a great guy, but until he got together with FSIL a couple of years ago, he was busy living the expensive single guy life he can't afford then supplementing with DF's money (and FBIL makes more money than DF and has less debt; DF has student loans he's paying off over the next 5-6 years).  After that Christmas, I never heard another peep about FBIL wanting to add himself to anything DF was giving as a present.

Hill #2 -- Came about just last night.  DF and his two best friends have an annual holiday gathering where DF (and now me), BF1 and wife and BF2, wife and kids get together for a holiday lunch.  This year, another friend of theirs is invited to join us but is only available Fri, 12/30 so that's when it was scheduled, even though a few of the attendees (BF2 and DF) are working that day.  I'm not, and the gathering is about 15-20 minutes away so getting together that night was okay with me (again, at the convenience of ONE person).  Last night, DF told me that BF1's wife has to be up early the next morning to be two hours away (they live 1.5 hours from us so she has to be somewhere 30 minutes away from their house really early on the morning on Sat, 12/31).  Anyway, BF1 offered to have the gathering at his house -- normally a 1.5 hour drive but keep in mind that this is the Friday before a holiday weekend.  DF opened the dialogue with me by stating, "BF2 said he'd pack up himself and the kids and pick up you and me, drive us all out to BF1's house then bring us back" and then told me what was going on.  I looked at DF and said, "Well, hope you guys have a good time."  DF understood, and I proceeded with laying out what the evening would look like going with this change (which, again, is for ONE person and inconveniencing almost everyone else).  DF works until 5pm so I figured we wouldn't actually be on the road until 6pm.  Drive would likely take about two hours so arrival wouldn't be until 8pm.  We've always done appetizers first so dinner would be at, what, 9pm???  So dinner's over at 11pm, we'd chat a little bit then have dessert at 11:30pm then drive back to be home MAYBE around 1-1:30am (and BF2 would be very tired by then so we'd probably have to stop for caffeine or a rest along the way).  Oh and should I mention that they have an annual New Year's Eve afternoon tea so the travelers would need to be up early to prepare for that, especially DF who is hosting it this year and is a total slob and procrastinator so his place is a big mess right now that I'm sure wouldn't be clean on the morning of Sat, 12/31???  Also, I don't live with DF; I live 15-20 minutes away so I'd still have to drive myself home AFTER returning from a very late night.  BF2's wife isn't going either if this change happens so, right now, it looks like the plan to change the location is not a done deal. (part of the reason that the schedule is back-to-back days for annual celebrations is because BF1, who suggested this latest change to accommodate his wife, has been procrastinating big time this year).

I'm ahead of the game for next year, though, due to our wedding taking place in January 2013.  I told DF that (a little tongue-in-cheek) I'm "reserving the right to bring out the bridezilla in me" and, outside of Christmas Eve, Christmas and New Year's Eve, holding all of December for our wedding preparations (it's DIY and extremely low budget so, yeah, I need to have both of us available to take care of anything last-minute -- and I haven't been bridezilla at all this whole time; DF is more into the wedding planning than I am).  I've given DF a series of dates in November that we will hold in place as options for their annual holiday celebration and the annual birthday celebration for BF2 (they do one for each of them).



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Re: Your holiday hill to die on.
« Reply #202 on: December 16, 2011, 04:53:14 AM »
Ohhhhh my mom just had a hill to die on moment....

In the past Thanksgiving had been at grandma's. Grandma lives across the street from a church where we set up the food in the fellowship hall so we can all sit together.

Mom was talking with toxic aunt about thanksgiving this year. Toxic aunt is going to make the turkey. Mom says she will bring over the mashed potatoes and that her friend, NiceLady, will bring some veggie dishes. Toxic aunt says "Well NiceLady is NOT family so she is not invited to our FAMILY thanksgiving!"  Note, NiceLady is like a 2nd mom to me, helps the family during rough times, and generally keeps my mom sane as her Best Friend.   

Mom asked me if she could make thanksgiving dinner at my house and bring NiceLady along too. WIN!

Geez, sounds like the one year I was hosting Christmas Day at my house.  My sister's best friend, Kari, lives in our state and all of her family lives in the mid-west.  She was due to fly out Christmas Eve but her state got socked with snow.  The next day, she was still going no where so sister asked if she could come along.  Of course!  Lovely girl but mom had a fit.  She is not "family" and I replied "Because she is not blood related she should be home alone on Christmas Day?"  She came and we all had a good time.
Gee, I wish my MIL had pulled that one; it was very clear that she didn't consider me "family", just that woman her son married.  I could have stayed home and done what *I* wanted to do, instead of spending all those holidays in her freezing house being barely tolerated. 

And that leads me to my hills, long in the past; my parents-in-law did not have veto power over what we gave our children for Christmas.  They tried, though.  I remember one epic hissy fit when we gave our 5-year-old the Lite-Brite that she had been yearning for.  "It's TOO DANGEROUS to give a child that young AN ELECTRICAL TOY!!!"  ::)  Mom, it's a light bulb behind a screen.  It's no more dangerous than the lamp there on your table.  Even though we got it, DD's pleasure in it was completely spoiled by her grandmother.  >:(  She quietly packed it back into its box and never touched it again.
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Re: Your holiday hill to die on.
« Reply #203 on: December 16, 2011, 06:46:39 AM »
Ohhhhh my mom just had a hill to die on moment....

In the past Thanksgiving had been at grandma's. Grandma lives across the street from a church where we set up the food in the fellowship hall so we can all sit together.

Mom was talking with toxic aunt about thanksgiving this year. Toxic aunt is going to make the turkey. Mom says she will bring over the mashed potatoes and that her friend, NiceLady, will bring some veggie dishes. Toxic aunt says "Well NiceLady is NOT family so she is not invited to our FAMILY thanksgiving!"  Note, NiceLady is like a 2nd mom to me, helps the family during rough times, and generally keeps my mom sane as her Best Friend.   

Mom asked me if she could make thanksgiving dinner at my house and bring NiceLady along too. WIN!

Geez, sounds like the one year I was hosting Christmas Day at my house.  My sister's best friend, Kari, lives in our state and all of her family lives in the mid-west.  She was due to fly out Christmas Eve but her state got socked with snow.  The next day, she was still going no where so sister asked if she could come along.  Of course!  Lovely girl but mom had a fit.  She is not "family" and I replied "Because she is not blood related she should be home alone on Christmas Day?"  She came and we all had a good time.
Gee, I wish my MIL had pulled that one; it was very clear that she didn't consider me "family", just that woman her son married.  I could have stayed home and done what *I* wanted to do, instead of spending all those holidays in her freezing house being barely tolerated. 

And that leads me to my hills, long in the past; my parents-in-law did not have veto power over what we gave our children for Christmas.  They tried, though.  I remember one epic hissy fit when we gave our 5-year-old the Lite-Brite that she had been yearning for.  "It's TOO DANGEROUS to give a child that young AN ELECTRICAL TOY!!!"  ::)  Mom, it's a light bulb behind a screen.  It's no more dangerous than the lamp there on your table.  Even though we got it, DD's pleasure in it was completely spoiled by her grandmother.  >:(  She quietly packed it back into its box and never touched it again.

Aw, that stinks!! I'm sorry her fun was ruined.  Lite Brites are awesome. 

Christmas was always a tense time between my mom and my grandma.  Mom bought us safe, but fun, toys that encouraged our imaginations.  I got a lot of art sets, dress up clothes, books on myths and legends (a big area interest for me), etc. Same for my siblings. Grandma said that Mom was encouraging us to be "frivilous" and "flighty."  I, in particular, was a problem case because I was always telling stories and pretending.  She "just didn't know what weeblewobble was going to grow up to be, because her heads always in the clouds." I was 9.  It was hardly time for me to be buckling down and doing my own taxes.

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Re: Your holiday hill to die on.
« Reply #204 on: December 16, 2011, 09:52:38 AM »
I guess it's not so much a hill as a personal choice that others are just going to have to live with.  I will not be traveling.  I will be staying home, enjoying the first tree that I have put up in over 6 years. I will be baking/cooking what pleases me, not everyone else. I will not be doing anything for tradition's sake that bothers me - no cooking things that neither DH or I can eat, no going to the inlaws or my family's house, no drinking with breakfast - just no.

I want peace this year, not PA swipes from my MIL and SIL. I will not be sleeping in a barely heated basement on a cat urine soaked ottoman pushed up next to a chair.  I will not be wrapping other people's gifts only to get dollar store rejects for my gifts.  I will not drive 6+ hours to arrive in pain at a place hwere I am barely welcome and used as some sort of indentured servant.  Nor will I be going to may family so that I can sit there for hours and listen to people complain about money problems and snipe about how "lucky" I am.

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Re: Your holiday hill to die on.
« Reply #205 on: December 16, 2011, 10:11:07 AM »

Christmas was always a tense time between my mom and my grandma.  Mom bought us safe, but fun, toys that encouraged our imaginations.  I got a lot of art sets, dress up clothes, books on myths and legends (a big area interest for me), etc. Same for my siblings. Grandma said that Mom was encouraging us to be "frivilous" and "flighty."  I, in particular, was a problem case because I was always telling stories and pretending.  She "just didn't know what weeblewobble was going to grow up to be, because her heads always in the clouds." I was 9.  It was hardly time for me to be buckling down and doing my own taxes.
As far as I'm concerned, your mother was absolutely RIGHT.  A lively imagination and the love of reading are the best things you can give your children.   Every time I watch Miracle on 34th Street I think what a dreary life that little girl had.  No pretending, no imagination = no way to cope with a unique problem, because the necessary thought processes to look at something a bit skewed are just not developed.  I had an internet friend who was raised like that, in a very dictatorial fundamentalist home.  She wasn't even allowed to read fiction, because fiction = made up and made up = LYING  :'(
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Re: Your holiday hill to die on.
« Reply #206 on: December 16, 2011, 02:01:30 PM »
I guess it's not so much a hill as a personal choice that others are just going to have to live with.  I will not be traveling.  I will be staying home, enjoying the first tree that I have put up in over 6 years. I will be baking/cooking what pleases me, not everyone else. I will not be doing anything for tradition's sake that bothers me - no cooking things that neither DH or I can eat, no going to the inlaws or my family's house, no drinking with breakfast - just no.

I want peace this year, not PA swipes from my MIL and SIL. I will not be sleeping in a barely heated basement on a cat urine soaked ottoman pushed up next to a chair.  I will not be wrapping other people's gifts only to get dollar store rejects for my gifts.  I will not drive 6+ hours to arrive in pain at a place hwere I am barely welcome and used as some sort of indentured servant.  Nor will I be going to may family so that I can sit there for hours and listen to people complain about money problems and snipe about how "lucky" I am.

It sounds like you are overdue for a positive Christmas! I'm glad you're not going to put up with such abominable treatment this year.

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« Reply #207 on: December 16, 2011, 02:38:27 PM »
I guess it's not so much a hill as a personal choice that others are just going to have to live with.  I will not be traveling.  I will be staying home, enjoying the first tree that I have put up in over 6 years. I will be baking/cooking what pleases me, not everyone else. I will not be doing anything for tradition's sake that bothers me - no cooking things that neither DH or I can eat, no going to the inlaws or my family's house, no drinking with breakfast - just no.

I want peace this year, not PA swipes from my MIL and SIL. I will not be sleeping in a barely heated basement on a cat urine soaked ottoman pushed up next to a chair.  I will not be wrapping other people's gifts only to get dollar store rejects for my gifts.  I will not drive 6+ hours to arrive in pain at a place hwere I am barely welcome and used as some sort of indentured servant.  Nor will I be going to may family so that I can sit there for hours and listen to people complain about money problems and snipe about how "lucky" I am.

It sounds like you are overdue for a positive Christmas! I'm glad you're not going to put up with such abominable treatment this year.

No kidding.  Is this coming from both sides of the family?  Yours and DH?

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« Reply #208 on: December 16, 2011, 02:45:13 PM »
I guess it's not so much a hill as a personal choice that others are just going to have to live with.  I will not be traveling.  I will be staying home, enjoying the first tree that I have put up in over 6 years. I will be baking/cooking what pleases me, not everyone else. I will not be doing anything for tradition's sake that bothers me - no cooking things that neither DH or I can eat, no going to the inlaws or my family's house, no drinking with breakfast - just no.

I want peace this year, not PA swipes from my MIL and SIL. I will not be sleeping in a barely heated basement on a cat urine soaked ottoman pushed up next to a chair.  I will not be wrapping other people's gifts only to get dollar store rejects for my gifts.  I will not drive 6+ hours to arrive in pain at a place hwere I am barely welcome and used as some sort of indentured servant.  Nor will I be going to may family so that I can sit there for hours and listen to people complain about money problems and snipe about how "lucky" I am.

It sounds like you are overdue for a positive Christmas! I'm glad you're not going to put up with such abominable treatment this year.

Really, family is - family I guess.  Both DH and I are radically different that everyone else in both of our families, in regards to religious beliefs, reproduction choices, attitudes about sexuality, race, and politics, and just about everything else.  We are not contentious, but we will not follow along blindly when someone else is hammering away at us for a responce.  Both of us are rather quiet people ( for the most part), so getting either one of us to respond takes work, and then we are jumped on in a huge dogpile for what we believe. This happens in both families. 

For example, my new SIL was very upset when I ate a peanut butter cup in front of her. She is by choice gluten free, nut free, lactose free, etc.  This is not a medical issue, but a personal choice. Apparently I was a horrible person blah blah blah rude to eat things that she could not have moan moan moan. I just said "sorry you feel that way." and walked away. she followed me, not only in the hospital, which is where we were, but she brought it up repeatedly at home.  I finally told her that that horse not only had been beaten to death but that she had flayed its corpse for the hide and boiled the bones for soup.  DH's family jumped on that as me being rude and evil blah blah.

This is also the same woman who diagnosed both me and DH with Aspergers on the first meetign and proceeded to make sickly sweet comments about how nice it was that two people like us found each other. His family jumped on this and have totally bought in to this.  DH and I just rolled our eyes and said that this gives us a free pass to be mildly socially inapproriate and refer them back to the Aspergers.

There are 12 years worth of stories about his family and mine that are boiling to get out such as
  • my father's refusal to call him by a name that did not include a curse for over 2 years
  • my family refusing to show up to our wedding despite promising that they would be there THAT MORNING - wedding was delayed 2 hours and they still didn't show
  • my grandmother telling me that I would redeem myself for being dark skinned and nappy haired by having beautiful mixed babies
  • his father and mother showing up at our apartment unannounced and proceeding to berate us for being childish, immature, lazy, a shame to their family, and beign busy "playign house" without any regard for each other

This, and many many more.

(and WOW, I thought that I worked through this in therapy, but it seems that I have some lingering issues  ::) )

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« Reply #209 on: December 16, 2011, 09:55:33 PM »
alkira I sure hope you dont' go to their house anymore!!! No one deserves that kind of garbage.
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