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Re: Ex member
« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2011, 03:25:43 PM »

I've been here through mass bannings before, and probably will again.

Ditto.  I'm not as naive as someone thought I was.  The Dame's rules are what we agree to abide by in order to post here.  I haven't seen one made yet that didn't have a solid reason as to the "whys".  Maybe I don't know the reason when they are announced.. but after reading/poking around the forum I can usually sus it out.

Why anyone banned recently or in the past is not my call to question.  I just try to learn a little about etiquette and treat others with respect.. even those who have me rolling my eyes.

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Re: Ex member
« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2011, 03:33:03 PM »
Wait...did I read this right? Rainha, Aventurine, wyozozo, LadyPekoe, vTenebrae, and the others mentioned in this thread have all been banned?? ?
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« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2011, 03:33:57 PM »
I was looking at the stat page (http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?action=stats), lots of cool info there.  RainhaDoTexugo is ranked 4th in number of posts and first in time online (almost 320 days), I have a hard time accepting someone that invested is out to harm the forum.

That Rainha?  I loved her epic wedding thread she had.  Wow, that is surprising to me.  I don't ever remember doing any inflammatory.  But then again I don't have access to the PM's/behind the scenes etc.  Yikes.

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« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2011, 03:36:39 PM »
Wait...did I read this right? Rainha, Aventurine, wyozozo, LadyPekoe, vTenebrae, and the others mentioned in this thread have all been banned?? ?

The mods rarely comment on the moderation they have taken against individual posters. Especially long term posters. So, it's possible. And several of them were warned in recent threads. It's also possible that they were temporarily gagged while this is sorted out to try to keep threads like this from starting even more drama.
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« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2011, 03:40:51 PM »
Ehhh.  people that have been banned know why.  It really is very simple, read the posting guidelines and it is all laid out. 

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« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2011, 03:41:12 PM »
Just a note from the Dame in the other thread:  Mods do not have access to PMs unless someone reports a PM they receive to them.

Mods, do the banned/gagged posters have a way to contact you?  In the interests of fairness, if someone feels they have been unfairly moderated, it would be nice if they could present their case to you.
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Re: Ex member
« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2011, 03:42:20 PM »
I'm happy that at least SOME of the drama will die down.   If you don't like the rules; leave.   I feel the same way about facebook.  I'm tired of people complaining all the time about something that's free .  Everyone is busy including the people who run and manage this FREE forum. 

It's one thing to start a discussion but lately all I have seen is whinging which really defeats the purpose of this board.

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Re: Ex member
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2011, 03:43:06 PM »
Just a note from the Dame in the other thread:  Mods do not have access to PMs unless someone reports a PM they receive to them.

Mods, do the banned/gagged posters have a way to contact you?  In the interests of fairness, if someone feels they have been unfairly moderated, it would be nice if they could present their case to you.

Anyone can contact the Dame though the website. I would assume she might be slow to reply given the drama and the glut of emails I have to assume she's receiving.
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« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2011, 03:43:14 PM »

I've been here through mass bannings before, and probably will again.

Ditto.  I'm not as naive as someone thought I was.  The Dame's rules are what we agree to abide by in order to post here.  I haven't seen one made yet that didn't have a solid reason as to the "whys".  Maybe I don't know the reason when they are announced.. but after reading/poking around the forum I can usually sus it out.

Why anyone banned recently or in the past is not my call to question.  I just try to learn a little about etiquette and treat others with respect.. even those who have me rolling my eyes.

Including what we do off this site?

"Write pron on the side and you won't be welcome here at all no matter how polite you appear."
 
http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=107408.75

From EtiquettehellDame herself.

I can only take that quote to mean that if she doesn't like something we do (not just porn but anything) off this site, she can ban us.

Many people have said that this is her forum and she can run it as she pleases. Sure...it's a free country. So when she has no posters left but trolls and whiners, she'll have no one to blame but herself.
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Re: Ex member
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2011, 03:43:33 PM »
I have not read each and every post on this forum (far from it) but one thing that has frustrated me is not understanding why decisions were made (in moderating, locking or deleting threads, banning or gagging posters), which means I have no idea whether I am also somehow violating some rule I don't know about.  To me, an explanation of "we have our reasons" makes allegations of favoritism gain momentum, when in reality there is likely a very reasonable explanation.  I do think that banning members for activities outside the forum is over the top, but then it is not my forum.   8)  I also think that moderating people for their politely expressed opinions is not appropriate (this has happened to me), but, again, not my forum!

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« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2011, 03:44:59 PM »
The mods rarely comment on the moderation they have taken against individual posters. Especially long term posters. So, it's possible. And several of them were warned in recent threads. It's also possible that they were temporarily gagged while this is sorted out to try to keep threads like this from starting even more drama.
Well of course they don't comment. It's easier to sweep everything under the rug and pretend that there are no elephants rampaging through the living room when you don't talk about the issues.  Unfortunately ignorance is not always bliss and this cycle of mass banning and forum splits happens every few years. You would think that people would have learned the first two times.

I am confused though. Where were several posters warned in recent threads? Were the warnings from other members or from staff?
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Re: Ex member
« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2011, 03:46:51 PM »
Where were several posters warned in recent threads? Were the warnings from other members or from staff?

This is what I am missing as well.

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Re: Ex member
« Reply #57 on: October 27, 2011, 03:47:04 PM »

I've been here through mass bannings before, and probably will again.

Ditto.  I'm not as naive as someone thought I was.  The Dame's rules are what we agree to abide by in order to post here.  I haven't seen one made yet that didn't have a solid reason as to the "whys".  Maybe I don't know the reason when they are announced.. but after reading/poking around the forum I can usually sus it out.

Why anyone banned recently or in the past is not my call to question.  I just try to learn a little about etiquette and treat others with respect.. even those who have me rolling my eyes.

Including what we do off this site?

"Write pron on the side and you won't be welcome here at all no matter how polite you appear."
 
http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=107408.75

From EtiquettehellDame herself.

I can only take that quote to mean that if she doesn't like something we do (not just porn but anything) off this site, she can ban us.

Many people have said that this is her forum and she can run it as she pleases. Sure...it's a free country. So when she has no posters left but trolls and whiners, she'll have no one to blame but herself.

if one would read farther along in that thread, where the Dame revealed what has been going on behind the scenes, the latest bannings make a great deal of sense.

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« Reply #58 on: October 27, 2011, 03:47:12 PM »
Ehhh.  people that have been banned know why.  It really is very simple, read the posting guidelines and it is all laid out.

That may not always be true. I've come across a couple postings throughout the interwebs (blogs/forums) from banned members who had no clue why they were banned. They just tried to log in and got a ban message.

ETA: I have no idea if the previous members are telling the truth or not, but given that the stories all seem to match up they are at least believable.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2011, 03:49:49 PM by smidget23 »
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Re: Ex member
« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2011, 03:47:30 PM »

I've been here through mass bannings before, and probably will again.

Ditto.  I'm not as naive as someone thought I was.  The Dame's rules are what we agree to abide by in order to post here.  I haven't seen one made yet that didn't have a solid reason as to the "whys".  Maybe I don't know the reason when they are announced.. but after reading/poking around the forum I can usually sus it out.

Why anyone banned recently or in the past is not my call to question.  I just try to learn a little about etiquette and treat others with respect.. even those who have me rolling my eyes.

Including what we do off this site?

"Write pron on the side and you won't be welcome here at all no matter how polite you appear."
 
http://www.etiquettehell.com/smf/index.php?topic=107408.75

From EtiquettehellDame herself.

I can only take that quote to mean that if she doesn't like something we do (not just porn but anything) off this site, she can ban us.

Many people have said that this is her forum and she can run it as she pleases. Sure...it's a free country. So when she has no posters left but trolls and whiners, she'll have no one to blame but herself.

I too was taken aback by that comment, so I sought clarification.

I PMed the Dame to clarify this. In essence, if you write pron on the side and no one knows about it here, that's fine. They aren't going to go looking for it. But, if people know about it, especially if you link to it, that's violating the "TMI" rule about talking about scrabble.

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