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bloo

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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #7560 on: March 13, 2013, 06:39:39 AM »
...She then informed me that similar problems to mine were being reported in central Texas and since I lived so close to there perhaps I was experiencing the same thing. I live in southern Arizona...

Eventually I was transferred to second-level support. That lady also mentioned the problems in Texas and suggested that I might be affected "since I'm so close." I advised her that I live in Arizona and she replied, "Yeah, but it's just the next state over."  ???

And no, the problem has not been resolved.

The New Mexico Magazine has a regular column - One of our 50 is missing (http://www.nmmagazine.com/one-of-our-50-is-missing/ )You might like to suggest your internet provider becomes a subscriber.

In recent years, I have come across quite a number of accounts from people in the US, of dealings with compatriots who basically had not heard of the state of New Mexico, and thought that Mexico the country was being referred to. (Am not meaning to mock America and Americans, in this -- plenty of people here in the UK are highly "geographically challenged".)  I can't help feeling that when the United States acquired this area, a more convenient name for the state might have been hit on, than "New Mexico". In the light of how easily confused, and not very clued-up, people can be; the choice of name, was perhaps inviting this problem.
With bansidhe's "just the next state over" lady: in Harry Turtledove's "How Few Remain" alternative-history series, that applies, but "the other way round", as it were. In this series of novels, the history of North America works out somewhat differently from "our time line" (and often, rather nastily). In the series, there are not quite as many western states, as in "our time line": there's no Arizona -- what is Arizona and New Mexico in "our time line", is all just New Mexico.  Perhaps, by reason of this, in the novels' "universe" New Mexico turns up "missing", less than it does with us...

No kidding.

I was startled by reading account after account on notalwaysright.com of Americans that are clueless that New Mexico is not another country. I always thought that my geography skill were poor because I didn't know all the US territories but I do know all the states!

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« Reply #7561 on: March 13, 2013, 08:39:25 AM »
How peculiar.  I just checked to to get an idea of just "how big" Texas is, and it's smaller than NSW!

Yep, Australian's are not impressed with the size of Texas since Australia divides their continent/country up into 6 states. Where as Texas is just one of 50 US states.

The size of Western Australia was staggering. It's about a third of the entire continental US.

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« Reply #7562 on: March 13, 2013, 08:42:29 AM »
Yep.  And as with the historically-challenged lumping all history as "The Olden Days" here we see the geographically challenged lumping all the world as "Not Here."  Or perhaps "No Place I Have Ever Been."  I was in Oregon visiting my sister, went to buy some wine, and the cashier noted from my ID that I lived in Maryland.  "Is that near Missouri?"  Only alphabetically, dearie. 

ETA: The US would have far fewer states if the East Coast was divided into sensible chunks instead of teeny-tiny little states the size of western counties.  All of New England ought to be one state.  Delaware should be part of Maryland. New Jersey should be part of New York.
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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #7563 on: March 13, 2013, 08:53:33 AM »
Melding together the Geography and Historical brain hurts..

I'm British, and last time I visited the US I was there over 4th July and a day or two before the 4th was chatting to an assistant in a book store and she asked me how we celebrated 4th July in England...

I found this particularly brain-hurt as I was buying a book about local history and she had been telling me she loved history and studying History at University...

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« Reply #7564 on: March 13, 2013, 08:54:32 AM »
Yep.  And as with the historically-challenged lumping all history as "The Olden Days" here we see the geographically challenged lumping all the world as "Not Here."  Or perhaps "No Place I Have Ever Been."  I was in Oregon visiting my sister, went to buy some wine, and the cashier noted from my ID that I lived in Maryland.  "Is that near Missouri?"  Only alphabetically, dearie. 

ETA: The US would have far fewer states if the East Coast was divided into sensible chunks instead of teeny-tiny little states the size of western counties.  All of New England ought to be one state.  Delaware should be part of Maryland. New Jersey should be part of New York.

It was! but those 4 stoopid counties just had to have things their way :)

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« Reply #7565 on: March 13, 2013, 09:10:51 AM »
Yep.  And as with the historically-challenged lumping all history as "The Olden Days" here we see the geographically challenged lumping all the world as "Not Here."  Or perhaps "No Place I Have Ever Been."  I was in Oregon visiting my sister, went to buy some wine, and the cashier noted from my ID that I lived in Maryland.  "Is that near Missouri?"  Only alphabetically, dearie. 

ETA: The US would have far fewer states if the East Coast was divided into sensible chunks instead of teeny-tiny little states the size of western counties.  All of New England ought to be one state.  Delaware should be part of Maryland. New Jersey should be part of New York.
As a native New Yorker, I have to say: TAKE THAT BACK!

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Diane AKA Traska

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« Reply #7566 on: March 13, 2013, 09:24:30 AM »
Yep.  And as with the historically-challenged lumping all history as "The Olden Days" here we see the geographically challenged lumping all the world as "Not Here."  Or perhaps "No Place I Have Ever Been."  I was in Oregon visiting my sister, went to buy some wine, and the cashier noted from my ID that I lived in Maryland.  "Is that near Missouri?"  Only alphabetically, dearie. 

ETA: The US would have far fewer states if the East Coast was divided into sensible chunks instead of teeny-tiny little states the size of western counties.  All of New England ought to be one state.  Delaware should be part of Maryland. New Jersey should be part of New York.
As a native New Yorker, I have to say: TAKE THAT BACK!

LOL
I agree.  Looking at it geographically, it should be part of Pennsylvania.  In fact, I propose that we break off Western PA and make that a state, and absorb NJ into PA.  West PA can have Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, and East PA will take Philadelphia s its new capital.

While we're at it, let's break up California.  There's two, maybe three distinct states there.  We can also merge a few New England states, since they're each about the size of a decent IHOP.
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« Reply #7567 on: March 13, 2013, 09:32:29 AM »
Yep.  And as with the historically-challenged lumping all history as "The Olden Days" here we see the geographically challenged lumping all the world as "Not Here."  Or perhaps "No Place I Have Ever Been."  I was in Oregon visiting my sister, went to buy some wine, and the cashier noted from my ID that I lived in Maryland.  "Is that near Missouri?"  Only alphabetically, dearie. 

ETA: The US would have far fewer states if the East Coast was divided into sensible chunks instead of teeny-tiny little states the size of western counties.  All of New England ought to be one state.  Delaware should be part of Maryland. New Jersey should be part of New York.
As a native New Yorker, I have to say: TAKE THAT BACK!

LOL

As a proud NJ'ian totally agree - we don't want to be NY!  ;D

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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #7568 on: March 13, 2013, 10:01:50 AM »
Ya might wanna be careful about eliminating or combining states as it can dilute representation in Congress. Remember, every state gets two (and only two) senators, regardless of size. That gives those tiny states much better representation in the Senate than the big ones.

In fact, Texas, when it joined the union, reserved the right to, at any future date, break up into five states for this exact purpose. It would increase our representation in the Senate from two to ten.

And regarding geographical ignorance, years ago when I was getting married, my sister and I went to the shop where I was getting the bridesmaids' dresses so she could be fitted. I lived in Houston, and she lived in Sugar Land which is a suburb of Houston, less than 25 miles from downtown Houston. As my sister was filling out the paperwork the sales clerk noticed the Sugar Land address and commented on how nice it was that she could get her fittiing done while she was in visiting from out of town. We had a good laugh over that!
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« Reply #7569 on: March 13, 2013, 10:05:44 AM »
I have another geographic brain hurt.  My family and I were visiting Orlando a few years ago, and I wanted to send my parents in Vancouver a postcard.  I asked the drug store clerk for a stamp, adding "How much postage do I need to mail a postcard to Canada?"  She looked blank and said "Canada?  Which state is it in?"  I said "Um, no - Canada.  You know - the country."

She still looked blank.  I gave up at that point.

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« Reply #7570 on: March 13, 2013, 10:20:50 AM »
Yep.  And as with the historically-challenged lumping all history as "The Olden Days" here we see the geographically challenged lumping all the world as "Not Here."  Or perhaps "No Place I Have Ever Been."  I was in Oregon visiting my sister, went to buy some wine, and the cashier noted from my ID that I lived in Maryland.  "Is that near Missouri?"  Only alphabetically, dearie. 

ETA: The US would have far fewer states if the East Coast was divided into sensible chunks instead of teeny-tiny little states the size of western counties.  All of New England ought to be one state.  Delaware should be part of Maryland. New Jersey should be part of New York.
As a native New Yorker, I have to say: TAKE THAT BACK!

LOL

As a proud NJ'ian totally agree - we don't want to be NY!  ;D

As my mother says, we'll give you guys NYC and the lot of you can stay over there. Don't want either of ya.

And that includes the relatives.
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« Reply #7571 on: March 13, 2013, 10:48:38 AM »
I made my own brain hurt they day I made a shocking discovery...

For whatever reason, I'd assumed all through high school and my first year of college that the Continental US and Canada were roughly the same size geographically. Somewhere in my second year of undergrad, I really looked at a map and it dawned on me that Canada is MUCH larger.  Once you see it, it's amazing how anybody could not realize the difference in size. Canada is huge, and dwarfs the US in physical size.  Even when you add Alaska into the total area, Canada is still bigger. I blame teenage oblivion for that oversight.
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« Reply #7572 on: March 13, 2013, 10:59:38 AM »
On the subject of geography, I'm sure I've told this story before, but it's a good one. I was at a restaurant on my college campus and my server began working with a table of people right behind me. It was four people who had come to town to look around, I guess, and they were asking her about her studies and what she liked about the university. Someone asked her if the campus was diverse, and she said, "Oh, yes! The other day I met a Panamanian, and I'd never even heard of Panamania* before!" The table went very quiet, I tried not to choke on my food, and they hurried to place their orders.

It was such a classic gaffe that I probably wouldn't believe it if I hadn't been sitting right there. To this day I wonder if she did it on purpose, maybe because she was getting tired of just standing there chatting. I somehow doubt it, though.

*Panamanian = from Panama. Because sometimes I don't always get the mistakes here. :)
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« Reply #7573 on: March 13, 2013, 11:04:15 AM »
The lady I had a few pages back that didn't know how to void a check struck again.

I had given her very clear, details instructions on how to handle an issue she was having. This morning my supervisor forwards an email from her, "Per my conversation with Reika, I'm sending this" with a note asking me if I remembered this customer.

She completely left out the item I told her to send, she also didn't include the cover letter with her policy number as I told her. I shouldn't be suprised, she didn't follow any of my other instructions before that.

My "Noooo, not her again!" gave my supervisor some much needed humor at my expense.

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« Reply #7574 on: March 13, 2013, 11:08:54 AM »
I probably caused some collateral brain damage when a friend told me he now lived in "Stockton, CA" and I took the state abbreviation to mean "Canada"... in my feeble defense, I'm from neither the US or Canada ;)


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