Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt

[selkiewoman]

I remember Creamola Foam very well (my grandmother used to get it for me - would that be the fifties?)  Was that just a UK thing?

[ica171]

Re: breastfeeding being the best choice and formula being terrible. I once saw a post (I believe in response to a Regretsy post) where the author claimed that she called CPS on parents that formula feed. I believe she also called on parents who circumcise. That statement made a lot of brains hurt, and probably a lot of heads from where their owners were pounding them against their desks.

[ladyknight1]

I was formula fed (as were my sisters), even though my mom wanted to breast feed, because in conservative north Texas (in 1968-1977), pregnant women were educated (by pre-natal classes at the hospital) that formula was better than breast milk. 

When I chose to breast feed when I was home, and DS received formula when I wasn't, my mother was shocked and tried to have me change to all formula. I made the educated choice for myself and DS, and I am happy with it. I feel that is the mother's decision alone, and support them.

[Piratelvr1121]

Re: breastfeeding being the best choice and formula being terrible. I once saw a post (I believe in response to a Regretsy post) where the author claimed that she called CPS on parents that formula feed. I believe she also called on parents who circumcise. That statement made a lot of brains hurt, and probably a lot of heads from where their owners were pounding them against their desks.

I'm sure CPS was just thrilled to pieces to get those calls. *sarcasm*

[ica171]

Re: breastfeeding being the best choice and formula being terrible. I once saw a post (I believe in response to a Regretsy post) where the author claimed that she called CPS on parents that formula feed. I believe she also called on parents who circumcise. That statement made a lot of brains hurt, and probably a lot of heads from where their owners were pounding them against their desks.

I'm sure CPS was just thrilled to pieces to get those calls. *sarcasm*

Yes, don't you know they have tons of free time to deal with the loons who think that their choices are the only valid ones? I really hope if she actually did call that she got told off, although the way she wrote it didn't sound like it.

[Free Range Hippy Chick]

I remember Creamola Foam very well (my grandmother used to get it for me - would that be the fifties?)  Was that just a UK thing?

I think so. It came from Scotland, and we got it in Northern Ireland too; it went on longer than I thought and there's a company in Dumbarton now making it under a slightly different name, I believe. But when you read the list of ingredients... it was baking soda, sugar and flavourings. Not exactly the height of sophistication!

[mmswm]

This topic burns my britches.  I'm very pro-breastfeeding.  I think, barring any known medical contraindications, new mothers should at least give it their best try.  Will it always work?  No.  And in those cases, the mother should be supported in seeking out alternatives.  And yes, there are alternatives to formula.  Wet nurses still exist and breast milk banks are available in some areas.  If a mother wants to use those or formula, that's her call.

Even as pro-breastfeeding as I am, I still had to formula feed my middle child.  I was put in a position where I had to choose between continuing to breastfeed him, or possibly lose the new baby I'd just become pregnant with. I have extremely high risk pregnancies.  DS2 was barely 5 months old and DS3 was born at 24 weeks.  Had I continued to nurse DS2, I may very well have lost the new baby, as one of my issues is pre-term labor and nursing a previous baby can increase pre-term contractions.

So, about two weeks after DS3 was born, I was out shopping with my older two.  Of course I was an emotional mess.  DS3 was still in NICU, barely hanging on to life.  DS2 was 11 months old.  At some point, he wanted a bottle and I gave him one.  That's when the SS verbally attacked me and told me "it was obvious that I didn't love my child, since I'd never feed him that poison if I cared at all for him."

Um, yeah.  You can imagine how well that went over.

[Giggity]

Could we please move the breastfeeding talk to another thread?

[Midnight Kitty]

So, about two weeks after DS3 was born, I was out shopping with my older two.  Of course I was an emotional mess.  DS3 was still in NICU, barely hanging on to life.  DS2 was 11 months old.  At some point, he wanted a bottle and I gave him one.  That's when the SS verbally attacked me and told me "it was obvious that I didn't love my child, since I'd never feed him that poison if I cared at all for him."

Um, yeah.  You can imagine how well that went over.

How long was the SS in the hospital?  Or did they live that long?

[Midnight Kitty]

Could we please move the breastfeeding talk to another thread?

Oops! Sorry.  I know I'm supposed to read to the end before posting.

[JenJay]

I had insomnia last night and ended up coming down to the couch to sleep, finally falling asleep at about 4:30am. At 7am the kids started getting up for school and DH got up as well, everyone moving around the house woke me and I got up to help the kids with a few things. At 7:30 DH told me to go up to bed and he'd come wake me in a few hours. I had just drifted off at about 7:45 when I heard someone crossing our very creaky bedroom floor. I looked up to find DH there who said "Did I wake you? I was just checking to make sure you were asleep." I said "Well, I was..." and thought "When I'm coherent again this is going in the brain hurt thread!"

I know he was just being concerned, and I love him for taking care of me, but yeah. 

[Lynn2000]

I had insomnia last night and ended up coming down to the couch to sleep, finally falling asleep at about 4:30am. At 7am the kids started getting up for school and DH got up as well, everyone moving around the house woke me and I got up to help the kids with a few things. At 7:30 DH told me to go up to bed and he'd come wake me in a few hours. I had just drifted off at about 7:45 when I heard someone crossing our very creaky bedroom floor. I looked up to find DH there who said "Did I wake you? I was just checking to make sure you were asleep." I said "Well, I was..." and thought "When I'm coherent again this is going in the brain hurt thread!"

I know he was just being concerned, and I love him for taking care of me, but yeah. 

A co-worker was telling me how when her son was an infant, she would poke at him and wake him up while he was sleeping, to make sure he was still alive--she was a very nervous first-time parent. I will admit to having stared at certain people to make sure they were still breathing in their sleep, but actually waking someone up seems a little counterintuitive to me.

[LB]

I had insomnia last night and ended up coming down to the couch to sleep, finally falling asleep at about 4:30am. At 7am the kids started getting up for school and DH got up as well, everyone moving around the house woke me and I got up to help the kids with a few things. At 7:30 DH told me to go up to bed and he'd come wake me in a few hours. I had just drifted off at about 7:45 when I heard someone crossing our very creaky bedroom floor. I looked up to find DH there who said "Did I wake you? I was just checking to make sure you were asleep." I said "Well, I was..." and thought "When I'm coherent again this is going in the brain hurt thread!"

I know he was just being concerned, and I love him for taking care of me, but yeah. 

A co-worker was telling me how when her son was an infant, she would poke at him and wake him up while he was sleeping, to make sure he was still alive--she was a very nervous first-time parent. I will admit to having stared at certain people to make sure they were still breathing in their sleep, but actually waking someone up seems a little counterintuitive to me.

I was also a very nervous first time parent when my son was a baby. He slept in a Rock and Play next to our bed for the first few months. A couple of times, when I would lean over to check on him, my eyes would not focus well enough to concentrate on if his chest or tummy was moving up and down. So, I would gently stroke his cheek to see if he would twitch. 

Yeah, it was a risk it would wake him. But it never did and I was reassured.

It did make my DH's brain hurt the couple of times he saw me do it though.

[nuit93]

I had insomnia last night and ended up coming down to the couch to sleep, finally falling asleep at about 4:30am. At 7am the kids started getting up for school and DH got up as well, everyone moving around the house woke me and I got up to help the kids with a few things. At 7:30 DH told me to go up to bed and he'd come wake me in a few hours. I had just drifted off at about 7:45 when I heard someone crossing our very creaky bedroom floor. I looked up to find DH there who said "Did I wake you? I was just checking to make sure you were asleep." I said "Well, I was..." and thought "When I'm coherent again this is going in the brain hurt thread!"

I know he was just being concerned, and I love him for taking care of me, but yeah. 

A co-worker was telling me how when her son was an infant, she would poke at him and wake him up while he was sleeping, to make sure he was still alive--she was a very nervous first-time parent. I will admit to having stared at certain people to make sure they were still breathing in their sleep, but actually waking someone up seems a little counterintuitive to me.

I do this with one of our cats--she's nearly 16 and gave me a scare once by lying on her side and not moving or showing any signs of breathing.  I couldn't yell at her since she's deaf.  I shook her a little--nothing.  Panicked phone call to boyfriend.  Shook her some more, harder.

She woke up...and boy, was she mad!

[Luci]

A co-worker was telling me how when her son was an infant, she would poke at him and wake him up while he was sleeping, to make sure he was still alive--she was a very nervous first-time parent. I will admit to having stared at certain people to make sure they were still breathing in their sleep, but actually waking someone up seems a little counterintuitive to me.

I just touched them enough to make them react slightly. (I did it before they were born, too.)

And, yes, it really irritates me when someone asks me if I'm asleep. Well, I was halfway there and your voice woke me up. It better be important!.