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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6945 on: February 07, 2013, 11:07:21 AM »
The thread on the New England Blizzard reminded me of this.

Several years ago, NYC got hit with 2 feet of snow in a surprisingly short time.

The operators of a very nice Mom & Pop grocery lived over the store and could stay open longer to provide local people with emergency supplies such as diapers, batteries, cold cuts and milk.

Around midnight we were experiencing close to white-out conditions. They were closing when there was a furious knocking at the door of the shop.

This could be a true emergency.  Perhaps the guy was stranded and couldn't get home.  The family unlocked the door and a man entered.  He was covered in snow and gasping for breath.  He seemed to be in dire need of warmth or shelter. What could they provide?

'Do you guys have any cumin?'

In my house this could be a life or death emergency!  How do you make white chili or fajitas without cumin?!?!?!?
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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6946 on: February 07, 2013, 11:45:23 AM »
On the radio this morning, they were doing a call-in segment, asking listeners if they paid their kids for certain things. Several callers talked about paying their kids for good grades. One woman in particular seemed to not have a grasp of financial realities. She pays her kids $100 for As. She does this because her kids like expensive things that the family can't afford, so she pays them so they can afford it themselves. *blink* *blink* *passes out* Amava • Member • Posts: 4556 Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt « Reply #6947 on: February 07, 2013, 12:04:28 PM » On the radio this morning, they were doing a call-in segment, asking listeners if they paid their kids for certain things. Several callers talked about paying their kids for good grades. One woman in particular seemed to not have a grasp of financial realities. She pays her kids$100 for As. She does this because her kids like expensive things that the family can't afford, so she pays them so they can afford it themselves.

First I was like: "Ouch! My brain! How??"

But then I started to think it makes sense but she just worded it in a confusing way.
She probably means her kids want all kinds of expensive things all the time and she couldn't afford to buy them all. So she gives them 100 for each A so that they 1. have to wait and save for a while to buy expensive things and 2. think more thoroughly about what they want, before they make a choice and actually buy something.
So she probably means that buy giving them money, they can afford to buy /one/ of the many things they want from time to time, while the family couldn't afford to buy them /every/ thing they want all the time.
It makes sense that way, so I think that is what she means.

But she worded it very brainhurtily indeed.

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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6948 on: February 07, 2013, 12:12:35 PM »
Ah yes, put that way it does make a lot more sense!
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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6949 on: February 07, 2013, 12:16:54 PM »
My mom has caused me plenty of brain-hurting moments with computers, too, so I feel your pain, Miss Tickle. She really, really tries and has actually learned to do some stuff on the computer on her own, that I don't know how to do, because she really wanted to do it. But then she'll call with a problem and can't really explain it to me with words I understand, and can't answer the questions I ask, and can't do simple things like copy and paste or type an address into a browser, and we both just end up really frustrated.  I'm not at all a computer person, I just use them a lot more than she does, so I really don't want to be "responsible" for her computer use and maintenance, but I also don't want to be totally unhelpful.

My Mom's gotten quite good doing her own tech support, and reboots and resetting the router usually solve her problems. For everything else there's the XKCD Tech Support Cheat Sheet: http://xkcd.com/627/ or, the next time she has a problem I can't diagnose over the phone, I'm having her install this: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx.
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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6950 on: February 07, 2013, 12:17:43 PM »
On the radio this morning, they were doing a call-in segment, asking listeners if they paid their kids for certain things. Several callers talked about paying their kids for good grades. One woman in particular seemed to not have a grasp of financial realities. She pays her kids $100 for As. She does this because her kids like expensive things that the family can't afford, so she pays them so they can afford it themselves. My dad hurt my brain when I was a kid. Many of my friends got money rewards for good grades. I didn't and I asked about it. I was in third or fourth grade at the time. My dad said "why should I pay you for good grades? Its your job to get good grades, you shouldn't need to be bribed." I was a kid sure, but I was old enough to know my dad didn't go to work every morning for fun, or for free. He went because it was his job and he was paid for it. It wasn't bribery, it was payment for a job done. Diane AKA Traska • Member • Posts: 4652 • Or you can just call me Diane. (NE USA EHellion) Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt « Reply #6951 on: February 07, 2013, 12:50:50 PM » On the radio this morning, they were doing a call-in segment, asking listeners if they paid their kids for certain things. Several callers talked about paying their kids for good grades. One woman in particular seemed to not have a grasp of financial realities. She pays her kids$100 for As. She does this because her kids like expensive things that the family can't afford, so she pays them so they can afford it themselves.

My dad hurt my brain when I was a kid.  Many of my friends got money rewards for good grades.  I didn't and I asked about it.  I was in third or fourth grade at the time.  My dad said "why should I pay you for good grades?  Its your job to get good grades, you shouldn't need to be bribed."

I was a kid sure, but I was old enough to know my dad didn't go to work every morning for fun, or for free.  He went because it was his job and he was paid for it.  It wasn't bribery, it was payment for a job done.

A better argument would have been "education is the reward."  Not that would have resonated with a kid any better...
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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6952 on: February 07, 2013, 12:57:38 PM »
While I'm not a supervisor, I do handle escalated calls at my call center. Today I had one because a customer who lives in Utah was angry that the letter we sent yesterday (February 6, 2013) from Florida wasn't at her house today (February 7, 2013).

It took me five minutes to finally get through to her why she wouldn't have gotten the letter yet. I did offer to fax or email it to her, but she didn't want anything to do with that. She just kept insisting that the post office should have gotten it to her by now.

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« Reply #6953 on: February 07, 2013, 12:58:15 PM »
My mom has caused me plenty of brain-hurting moments with computers, too, so I feel your pain, Miss Tickle. She really, really tries and has actually learned to do some stuff on the computer on her own, that I don't know how to do, because she really wanted to do it. But then she'll call with a problem and can't really explain it to me with words I understand, and can't answer the questions I ask, and can't do simple things like copy and paste or type an address into a browser, and we both just end up really frustrated.  I'm not at all a computer person, I just use them a lot more than she does, so I really don't want to be "responsible" for her computer use and maintenance, but I also don't want to be totally unhelpful.

my mom too - it's frustrating because she will call me at work and I try to walk her through it, but it's hard when I can't see what she is doing or show her where to go.

but I remember this one...one time her monitor did die and she had to get another one..

some time after getting a new monitor, she calls me and said she thinks this one died too, I went what it couldn't have, what happened, - she said - it black again and I can't do anything.

me - okay, first you're sure the monitor is on, is the button lit
mom- what button
me - the power button on the monitor, is it lit
mom- I don't know
me - look at the bottom of the monitor - are there any lights lit
mom - no
me - there should be a button on the bottom right, push it in
mom - OH!! - umm never mind
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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6954 on: February 07, 2013, 12:59:53 PM »
On the radio this morning, they were doing a call-in segment, asking listeners if they paid their kids for certain things. Several callers talked about paying their kids for good grades. One woman in particular seemed to not have a grasp of financial realities. She pays her kids $100 for As. She does this because her kids like expensive things that the family can't afford, so she pays them so they can afford it themselves. My dad hurt my brain when I was a kid. Many of my friends got money rewards for good grades. I didn't and I asked about it. I was in third or fourth grade at the time. My dad said "why should I pay you for good grades? Its your job to get good grades, you shouldn't need to be bribed." I was a kid sure, but I was old enough to know my dad didn't go to work every morning for fun, or for free. He went because it was his job and he was paid for it. It wasn't bribery, it was payment for a job done. A better argument would have been "education is the reward." Not that would have resonated with a kid any better... Oh for sure. Or even to say "its your responsibility to get good grades", but it killed me he said the word "job" and then tried to justify why I shouldn't be paid for a job. I remember even calling him out on it and getting a parent shut down (something like "regardless you aren't getting paid for grades, now go do your homework" or the like). ScubaGirl • Member • Posts: 534 Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt « Reply #6955 on: February 07, 2013, 01:38:17 PM » On the radio this morning, they were doing a call-in segment, asking listeners if they paid their kids for certain things. Several callers talked about paying their kids for good grades. One woman in particular seemed to not have a grasp of financial realities. She pays her kids$100 for As. She does this because her kids like expensive things that the family can't afford, so she pays them so they can afford it themselves.

I listen to the same station and heard the same thing - and thought the same thing.  I wondered if she meant that by doing it this way the money was spread over time.  But, even that doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6956 on: February 07, 2013, 01:54:58 PM »
My MIL got a computer for Christmas, which has also caused us many brain hurting conversations. She calls my DH at least once a week because the computer is "garbage", "frozen", or "screwed up."

Once, she couldn't get it to turn on. DH told her to charge the battery. Wow! That fixed it!

Once, she called to say it was frozen, nothing was coming up when she clicked on it. DH went over to look at it. She had IE open 56 times!

And her friend gives her computer advice like "Click on anything you want! Anything can be fixed!"

DH just told me the other day she wants me to come over and teach her about Pinterest.  Hmm. My schedule is suddenly very full.

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« Reply #6957 on: February 07, 2013, 02:14:39 PM »
My boss is also brain-hurty about computers. She buys a lot of them for use at the office and knows they're important to have. She's quite paranoid about viruses and downloading things from the Internet in general. But, she doesn't like/trust the anti-virus software we have (mandated by the company). So, she's afraid of viruses... but she doesn't want us to keep the anti-virus software updated... so she just keeps some of the most important computers unplugged from the Internet. So they never get any kind of software updates. But, you know, those could be viruses in disguise, so... And she won't hire or designate anyone knowledgeable and make it their job to maintain the computers responsibly. Or ask the company IT guys to do it for us, because they might want to do extra stuff (mandated by the company!) that she doesn't want.

Another one. There's a built-in projector in a room she uses three times a week. It's been acting weird lately, because it's old, and the blinking or whatever actually makes her nauseous and dizzy. She complains about it to me every single time, all day. She complained to the IT people and made them order a new one (at their expense). Which they probably should have anyway, but she dreads going down and using the old one each day until the new one arrives. I said, "What about that [new, modern] portable projector we have? You could take that to the room and set it up." Oh, that's way too much trouble to go through every time! She'd rather get nauseous and dizzy and complain about it to me three days a week, apparently.

On a different subject, a co-worker really made my brain hurt about food on a conference trip we took together. She has religious restrictions on food ingredients but her way of dealing with it was so inconsistent. First, although we'd discussed the food options and her restrictions several times well in advance, she did nothing to help herself beforehand, like bringing her own food, looking up menus for chain restaurants that would be nearby, or contacting the conference management to ask about the food they'd be providing. Then she would do stuff like refuse to eat the provided breakfast pastries because they might have a forbidden ingredient... but then happily chow down on sandwiches, i.e. bread, without asking about the ingredients. She had a meal at one place she really enjoyed; and only when we went back there a second time did she ask about the ingredients and learn that what she'd eaten had a forbidden thing in it (so she had to get food from somewhere else). Or she'd ask me if I thought something had a forbidden ingredient, instead of asking a server (to which I said, "I don't know. You should ask the server"). Twice she wanted to order a "burger" to eat... she's a vegetarian. The descriptions didn't say anything about meat, she claimed. Yes, she is from another country, but she's lived in the US for at least three years, as an adult (married, small child, PhD).
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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6958 on: February 07, 2013, 02:27:22 PM »
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Twice she wanted to order a "burger" to eat... she's a vegetarian. The descriptions didn't say anything about meat, she claimed.

That doesn't make my brain so much hurt, as crawl into a corner rocking and humming to itself.
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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6959 on: February 07, 2013, 02:54:37 PM »
On the radio this morning, they were doing a call-in segment, asking listeners if they paid their kids for certain things. Several callers talked about paying their kids for good grades. One woman in particular seemed to not have a grasp of financial realities. She pays her kids \$100 for As. She does this because her kids like expensive things that the family can't afford, so she pays them so they can afford it themselves.

My dad hurt my brain when I was a kid.  Many of my friends got money rewards for good grades.  I didn't and I asked about it.  I was in third or fourth grade at the time.  My dad said "why should I pay you for good grades?  Its your job to get good grades, you shouldn't need to be bribed."

I was a kid sure, but I was old enough to know my dad didn't go to work every morning for fun, or for free.  He went because it was his job and he was paid for it.  It wasn't bribery, it was payment for a job done.

A better argument would have been "education is the reward."  Not that would have resonated with a kid any better...

Oh for sure.  Or even to say "its your responsibility to get good grades", but it killed me he said the word "job" and then tried to justify why I shouldn't be paid for a job.  I remember even calling him out on it and getting a parent shut down (something like "regardless you aren't getting paid for grades, now go do your homework" or the like).

My dad told us we didn't get paid for grades because he didn't want us to be motivated by impure motives.  Sadly, it didn't work at all.  My siblings and I are all hopeless in that regard.

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