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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6960 on: February 07, 2013, 02:54:37 PM »
On the radio this morning, they were doing a call-in segment, asking listeners if they paid their kids for certain things. Several callers talked about paying their kids for good grades. One woman in particular seemed to not have a grasp of financial realities. She pays her kids $100 for As. She does this because her kids like expensive things that the family can't afford, so she pays them so they can afford it themselves.

My dad hurt my brain when I was a kid.  Many of my friends got money rewards for good grades.  I didn't and I asked about it.  I was in third or fourth grade at the time.  My dad said "why should I pay you for good grades?  Its your job to get good grades, you shouldn't need to be bribed."

I was a kid sure, but I was old enough to know my dad didn't go to work every morning for fun, or for free.  He went because it was his job and he was paid for it.  It wasn't bribery, it was payment for a job done.

A better argument would have been "education is the reward."  Not that would have resonated with a kid any better...

Oh for sure.  Or even to say "its your responsibility to get good grades", but it killed me he said the word "job" and then tried to justify why I shouldn't be paid for a job.  I remember even calling him out on it and getting a parent shut down (something like "regardless you aren't getting paid for grades, now go do your homework" or the like). 

My dad told us we didn't get paid for grades because he didn't want us to be motivated by impure motives.  Sadly, it didn't work at all.  My siblings and I are all hopeless in that regard.   ;D

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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6961 on: February 07, 2013, 03:20:26 PM »
This isn't a conversation, but my brain is hurting trying to figure out the "why" of what I saw in the way home today.

We passed a car crash.  This isn't brain-hurty, or even notable. What's hurting my brain is that the emergency response to the crash included the venom response unit.  My brain is going all kinds of crazy trying to figure out why that unit would be necessary for a car crash.  The only thing I can come up with is that a coral snake slithered into a car, distracted the driver and caused the crash.  Or maybe a venomous spider. 
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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6962 on: February 07, 2013, 03:44:25 PM »
My MIL made my brain hurt about computers, too.  My husband is a database administrator for a well-known "blue" company, and this company often offers its employees the opportunity to buy new or gently used computers at reduced prices.  When MIL started saying that she wanted a computer, my husband offered to get her one through work.  She turned him down (no idea why - it wasn't a matter of money, since she didn't even know how much they would have been charging).  Instead, she bought the computer that my brother-in-law recommended.  Now, BIL is a great guy, but he's a trucker by trade, and the only time he ever uses his home computer is to send an e-mail or play a game.   My point is that my husband knows a bit more about them than BIL does, but that wouldn't matter a bit if his recommendation had been a good one.  It wasn't, and now MIL complains all the time about how the computer is "garbage" and tries to get my husband to fix it.  (Maybe if she didn't happily open every single e-mail she gets, including spam from people she doesn't know, it wouldn't be in such bad shape.)

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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6963 on: February 07, 2013, 05:07:24 PM »
This isn't a conversation, but my brain is hurting trying to figure out the "why" of what I saw in the way home today.

We passed a car crash.  This isn't brain-hurty, or even notable. What's hurting my brain is that the emergency response to the crash included the venom response unit.  My brain is going all kinds of crazy trying to figure out why that unit would be necessary for a car crash.  The only thing I can come up with is that a coral snake slithered into a car, distracted the driver and caused the crash.  Or maybe a venomous spider.


Maybe the vehicle was transporting venomous snakes, spiders, or scorpions and their cages broke on impact.

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« Reply #6964 on: February 07, 2013, 05:10:44 PM »
This isn't a conversation, but my brain is hurting trying to figure out the "why" of what I saw in the way home today.

We passed a car crash.  This isn't brain-hurty, or even notable. What's hurting my brain is that the emergency response to the crash included the venom response unit.  My brain is going all kinds of crazy trying to figure out why that unit would be necessary for a car crash.  The only thing I can come up with is that a coral snake slithered into a car, distracted the driver and caused the crash.  Or maybe a venomous spider.


Maybe the vehicle was transporting venomous snakes, spiders, or scorpions and their cages broke on impact.

There's that.  There's also the possibility that that truck just happened to witness the accident, or was nearby, and stopped to help.  My brain still hurt for a while trying to come up with options.  Anything's possible, I suppose.  This is South Florida.  There's a reason why we even have a venom response team. The possibilities really are endless.  It has, however, proven to be an amusing source of speculation for me and the kids, coming up with ever more wild stories.
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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6965 on: February 08, 2013, 04:46:44 PM »
My husband volunteers at the library once a month. He works in the used book sales section, and it's usually very slow. This afternoon after he got home, he was telling me about how he got halfway to work this morning and realized he hadn't brought his iPad or the book he's been reading along to "keep himself busy while volunteering." Yeah. Because it's not like that place you're volunteering at would have anything there to read. (facepalm)

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« Reply #6966 on: February 08, 2013, 04:59:27 PM »
This isn't a conversation, but my brain is hurting trying to figure out the "why" of what I saw in the way home today.

We passed a car crash.  This isn't brain-hurty, or even notable. What's hurting my brain is that the emergency response to the crash included the venom response unit.  My brain is going all kinds of crazy trying to figure out why that unit would be necessary for a car crash.  The only thing I can come up with is that a coral snake slithered into a car, distracted the driver and caused the crash.  Or maybe a venomous spider.
Maybe it was a slow day for the venom response unit, and they were in the neighborhood, and stopped by to see what their colleagues were doing and if they could help?

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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6967 on: February 09, 2013, 06:45:02 AM »
My husband volunteers at the library once a month. He works in the used book sales section, and it's usually very slow. This afternoon after he got home, he was telling me about how he got halfway to work this morning and realized he hadn't brought his iPad or the book he's been reading along to "keep himself busy while volunteering." Yeah. Because it's not like that place you're volunteering at would have anything there to read. (facepalm)

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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6968 on: February 09, 2013, 07:36:45 AM »
While I'm not a supervisor, I do handle escalated calls at my call center. Today I had one because a customer who lives in Utah was angry that the letter we sent yesterday (February 6, 2013) from Florida wasn't at her house today (February 7, 2013).

It took me five minutes to finally get through to her why she wouldn't have gotten the letter yet. I did offer to fax or email it to her, but she didn't want anything to do with that. She just kept insisting that the post office should have gotten it to her by now.  ???

I had one of these the other day too!  A guy called in and wanted to know why he hadn't received the letter confirming that his claim was approved; he thought whoever he'd talked to on the phone had been messing with him and that his claim really wasn't approved after all.  ???  That part kind of made my brain hurt too - I don't know why he would think that's likely to happen.  Anyway, I looked it up in our system, and saw that we had approved his claim and set up the letter to go out on Wednesday.  Our letters only go out once a day, so it probably went out Thursday.  This was Friday, and the guy is on the opposite side of the US.  I tried to explain that he needed to allow for mail time for the letter to reach him.  I don't think he ever understood or believed me, but eventually he just hung up the phone. 


Then there are the people who have extreme views on what information we should have once their claim is filed.  On the one hand are the people who believe that filing an insurance claim gives us access to their entire lives, and are stunned to find out it doesn't work that way (no, I can't see that you just got a promotion/went to your doctor yesterday/filed a police report).  I had one guy yell at me for 10 minutes because I told him that I couldn't see in my system that he'd visited his doctor's office earlier that day.  I shouldn't need to ask those questions, because I should already know!  ::)  On the other hand are the people who don't want us to have any information, and spend half the time they're on the phone with us yelling about how we don't need this information and we're just going to use it for nefarious purposes.  One guy refused to give us permission to contact his doctors for information at all, and was infuriated when we denied his claim due to lack of supporting information.  Apparently we were just supposed to take his word for it as to what happened, because he's a trustworthy person.  :o

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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6969 on: February 09, 2013, 08:04:47 AM »

Then there are the people who have extreme views on what information we should have once their claim is filed.  On the one hand are the people who believe that filing an insurance claim gives us access to their entire lives, and are stunned to find out it doesn't work that way (no, I can't see that you just got a promotion/went to your doctor yesterday/filed a police report).  I had one guy yell at me for 10 minutes because I told him that I couldn't see in my system that he'd visited his doctor's office earlier that day.  I shouldn't need to ask those questions, because I should already know!  ::)  On the other hand are the people who don't want us to have any information, and spend half the time they're on the phone with us yelling about how we don't need this information and we're just going to use it for nefarious purposes.  One guy refused to give us permission to contact his doctors for information at all, and was infuriated when we denied his claim due to lack of supporting information.  Apparently we were just supposed to take his word for it as to what happened, because he's a trustworthy person.  :o

I get the same exact calls, but then again, I think I work for a similar type of insurance.

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« Reply #6970 on: February 09, 2013, 09:24:51 AM »
My mom has caused me plenty of brain-hurting moments with computers, too, so I feel your pain, Miss Tickle. She really, really tries and has actually learned to do some stuff on the computer on her own, that I don't know how to do, because she really wanted to do it. But then she'll call with a problem and can't really explain it to me with words I understand, and can't answer the questions I ask, and can't do simple things like copy and paste or type an address into a browser, and we both just end up really frustrated.  :( I'm not at all a computer person, I just use them a lot more than she does, so I really don't want to be "responsible" for her computer use and maintenance, but I also don't want to be totally unhelpful.

I apologize if someone else has pointed this out, but if I don't post it while I'm reading this post, I'll forget. You can download a program called "Crossloop" onto your computer and your Mom's computer (next time you are at her house). With this program, it's really easy to link to her computer over the internet and you control her computer. Makes fixing things much easier without having to leave your house! :)

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« Reply #6971 on: February 09, 2013, 10:35:15 AM »
My mom has caused me plenty of brain-hurting moments with computers, too, so I feel your pain, Miss Tickle. She really, really tries and has actually learned to do some stuff on the computer on her own, that I don't know how to do, because she really wanted to do it. But then she'll call with a problem and can't really explain it to me with words I understand, and can't answer the questions I ask, and can't do simple things like copy and paste or type an address into a browser, and we both just end up really frustrated.  :( I'm not at all a computer person, I just use them a lot more than she does, so I really don't want to be "responsible" for her computer use and maintenance, but I also don't want to be totally unhelpful.

I apologize if someone else has pointed this out, but if I don't post it while I'm reading this post, I'll forget. You can download a program called "Crossloop" onto your computer and your Mom's computer (next time you are at her house). With this program, it's really easy to link to her computer over the internet and you control her computer. Makes fixing things much easier without having to leave your house! :)

You both have to have the program, right?

I wouldn't mind if daughter and son have access - they won't abuse it! and neither would I - but would worry that anyone with Crossloop could get on my computer.

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« Reply #6972 on: February 09, 2013, 11:58:30 AM »
My mom has caused me plenty of brain-hurting moments with computers, too, so I feel your pain, Miss Tickle. She really, really tries and has actually learned to do some stuff on the computer on her own, that I don't know how to do, because she really wanted to do it. But then she'll call with a problem and can't really explain it to me with words I understand, and can't answer the questions I ask, and can't do simple things like copy and paste or type an address into a browser, and we both just end up really frustrated.  :( I'm not at all a computer person, I just use them a lot more than she does, so I really don't want to be "responsible" for her computer use and maintenance, but I also don't want to be totally unhelpful.

I apologize if someone else has pointed this out, but if I don't post it while I'm reading this post, I'll forget. You can download a program called "Crossloop" onto your computer and your Mom's computer (next time you are at her house). With this program, it's really easy to link to her computer over the internet and you control her computer. Makes fixing things much easier without having to leave your house! :)

You both have to have the program, right?

I wouldn't mind if daughter and son have access - they won't abuse it! and neither would I - but would worry that anyone with Crossloop could get on my computer.

I'm pretty sure that there's a password system involved.  ;)
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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6973 on: February 09, 2013, 12:49:50 PM »
I foresee a brain-hurty conversation on Monday.

My company, like all companies, has the occasional budget issue.  Currently, money is being harvested from the research groups to go to other areas of the company, so although our budgets were approved at the start of the year, any money allotted for each month that is not used during that month is considered "extra" and taken away.

Which would be fine - use it or lose it - but the thing is, research requires a certain amount of data collection.  Two projects have had unforeseen and out-of-our-control delays that required the data collection to be moved to later in the year.  But the budget system was locked right after the initial approval, so we can't also shift the allocated money to later in the year.  So all the money we budgeted up front is not being used and thus about to be taken away.  This is bad, since it means when we finally are able to run our data collection, we won't have the money, and therefore, won't be able to do the data collection.

So, in an effort to forestall the budget removal, our project manager just sent an email saying essentially "Spend to your plan!"  But we can't because nothing is as budget-intense as data collection, which we simply can't do now.  And because the system won't let us move the money out to when we'll need it, it now looks like we have buckets of unused money.

Think management would approve a last-minute team-building data collection exercise in Hawaii?

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Re: Exchanges with People that Make Your Brain Hurt
« Reply #6974 on: February 09, 2013, 02:06:52 PM »

Oh man! You just gave me trauma flashbacks. TAAS and TAKS were the nasty words in our house.

Weirdly, I always (except one year) did great on them. But the leading up to them was always brutal. And one year they lost my essay portion to the english test and I failed my grade because of it. (How they lost it is a great mystery. If I remember correctly the thing was attatched to the booklet! But seven kids' essays disappeared.)
Yikes I bet heads rolled over that.


A few years ago a troubled student burned down a historic HS near me. The TAKS tests had been counted and locked up the principals' office to be shipped back to TEA. They burned. The kids had to retake that round of tests - there were death threats against the boy and his family.

Not sure. I had to retake the test in summer school, and I hated everyone involved with all the hate my heart could hate.

Second time around, I got a perfect score though. But I did NOT get to go to sea world like the kids who got passing scores on the first round. I'm still mad about both that and the Accelerated Reader program. I was the top reader for the entire year... until the last week when a girl who previously had 38 points suddenly jumped up to over 700,000 points. Her mom was one of the parent volunteers for the program. Think it might be related? So she got a scholarship and I got the honor of smiling graciously holding my second place plaque in a picture for the local paper.

Even now, 13 years later I'm feeling my blood pressure rise as I remember it. You'd think I would have let it go by now, but nope. Still mad.


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