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EduardosGirl:
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--- Quote from: EduardosGirl on December 29, 2011, 11:35:29 PM ---
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--- Quote from: EduardosGirl on December 29, 2011, 10:53:20 PM ---I don't know, but this seems like the very soul of a qualified apology. I can certainly understand being under a lot of personal pressure but it is how we conduct ourselves in times of stress that defines us, not how pleasant we can be when the world is all rainbows and fruit cups. I am truly sorry that you have been going through difficult times, but that does not excuse the invective and poor behaviour exhibited towards a number of people who did *not* deserve it.
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So now you're criticizing her apology?
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I'm taking issue with a non-apology. How often has it been stated on the boards that if you apologise and sincerely mean it, then you apologise. You don't add disclaimers or qualifiers. "I made a mistake, I handled it poorly, I apologise." That is my point.
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It certainly wasn't a non-apology. I found it to be very sincere. Just because she included background information doesn't invalidate her apology.
You're just looking for offense now. It's obvious.
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I can assure you I'm not looking for offence. I apologise if that is how you've perceived it but it's not the case.
I did also sincerely offer my hopes that the Dame's issues are quickly resolved to her satisfaction. I don't wish her ill, but the fact remains that damage has been done and the statements just feel like too little too late.
Ceallach:
--- Quote from: EduardosGirl on December 29, 2011, 11:40:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shoo on December 29, 2011, 11:37:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: EduardosGirl on December 29, 2011, 11:35:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shoo on December 29, 2011, 11:31:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: EduardosGirl on December 29, 2011, 10:53:20 PM ---I don't know, but this seems like the very soul of a qualified apology. I can certainly understand being under a lot of personal pressure but it is how we conduct ourselves in times of stress that defines us, not how pleasant we can be when the world is all rainbows and fruit cups. I am truly sorry that you have been going through difficult times, but that does not excuse the invective and poor behaviour exhibited towards a number of people who did *not* deserve it.
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So now you're criticizing her apology?
--- End quote ---
I'm taking issue with a non-apology. How often has it been stated on the boards that if you apologise and sincerely mean it, then you apologise. You don't add disclaimers or qualifiers. "I made a mistake, I handled it poorly, I apologise." That is my point.
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It certainly wasn't a non-apology. I found it to be very sincere. Just because she included background information doesn't invalidate her apology.
You're just looking for offense now. It's obvious.
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I can assure you I'm not looking for offence. I apologise if that is how you've perceived it but it's not the case.
I did also sincerely offer my hopes that the Dame's issues are quickly resolved to her satisfaction. I don't wish her ill, but the fact remains that damage has been done and the statements just feel like too little too late.
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You are very publically critical of the dame, both on this and other threads. I assume you have also taken up your concerns with her in private and had a mature, private dialogue about your issues, rather than just constant public criticism? Because I personally think that would be the polite approach given the highly insulting nature of the accusations and concerns you have expressed. Otherwise it appears as though you are simply trying to cause trouble, which is how it comes across to many of us.
Dindrane:
--- Quote from: EduardosGirl on December 29, 2011, 11:40:55 PM ---
I can assure you I'm not looking for offence. I apologise if that is how you've perceived it but it's not the case.
I did also sincerely offer my hopes that the Dame's issues are quickly resolved to her satisfaction. I don't wish her ill, but the fact remains that damage has been done and the statements just feel like too little too late.
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The bolded is a classic non-apology. I don't think the Dame's sounded like that. The fact that her post covered multiple topics does not negate the sincerity of the apology offered in the first section. Whether or not you agree that it was sincere, you don't really help your case when you call her out for it publicly. There is always a private way to express that you think serious damage has been done without being adequately addressed. If you still feel that way, you might be better off using a PM.
EduardosGirl:
--- Quote from: Ceallach on December 29, 2011, 11:51:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: EduardosGirl on December 29, 2011, 11:40:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shoo on December 29, 2011, 11:37:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: EduardosGirl on December 29, 2011, 11:35:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shoo on December 29, 2011, 11:31:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: EduardosGirl on December 29, 2011, 10:53:20 PM ---I don't know, but this seems like the very soul of a qualified apology. I can certainly understand being under a lot of personal pressure but it is how we conduct ourselves in times of stress that defines us, not how pleasant we can be when the world is all rainbows and fruit cups. I am truly sorry that you have been going through difficult times, but that does not excuse the invective and poor behaviour exhibited towards a number of people who did *not* deserve it.
--- End quote ---
So now you're criticizing her apology?
--- End quote ---
I'm taking issue with a non-apology. How often has it been stated on the boards that if you apologise and sincerely mean it, then you apologise. You don't add disclaimers or qualifiers. "I made a mistake, I handled it poorly, I apologise." That is my point.
--- End quote ---
It certainly wasn't a non-apology. I found it to be very sincere. Just because she included background information doesn't invalidate her apology.
You're just looking for offense now. It's obvious.
--- End quote ---
I can assure you I'm not looking for offence. I apologise if that is how you've perceived it but it's not the case.
I did also sincerely offer my hopes that the Dame's issues are quickly resolved to her satisfaction. I don't wish her ill, but the fact remains that damage has been done and the statements just feel like too little too late.
--- End quote ---
You are very publically critical of the dame, both on this and other threads. I assume you have also taken up your concerns with her in private and had a mature, private dialogue about your issues, rather than just constant public criticism? Because I personally think that would be the polite approach given the highly insulting nature of the accusations and concerns you have expressed. Otherwise it appears as though you are simply trying to cause trouble, which is how it comes across to many of us.
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I am responding to the Dame's public actions. If we perceive rude or even egregious behaviour, is it not sometimes better to politely call on it in the same forum? I don't believe this is retaliatory rudeness, nor is it inflammatory. The Dame has made statements in public that I strongly disagree with, including statements of negative repute against my friends. Yet I should only address that in PM? If my friend - or myself - is publicly called a liar, I shall address that publicly.
I can assure you I am not trying to cause trouble. My criticism makes up a very tiny proportion of my thoughts and actions regarding the forum. But, again, I felt my concerns warranted speaking up. You don't have to agree with them, but that doesn't make them invalid.
EduardosGirl:
--- Quote from: Dindrane on December 29, 2011, 11:54:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: EduardosGirl on December 29, 2011, 11:40:55 PM ---
I can assure you I'm not looking for offence. I apologise if that is how you've perceived it but it's not the case.
I did also sincerely offer my hopes that the Dame's issues are quickly resolved to her satisfaction. I don't wish her ill, but the fact remains that damage has been done and the statements just feel like too little too late.
--- End quote ---
The bolded is a classic non-apology. I don't think the Dame's sounded like that. The fact that her post covered multiple topics does not negate the sincerity of the apology offered in the first section. Whether or not you agree that it was sincere, you don't really help your case when you call her out for it publicly. There is always a private way to express that you think serious damage has been done without being adequately addressed. If you still feel that way, you might be better off using a PM.
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I used that as an example. That is how the Dame's apology read to me.
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