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Ehelldame:

--- Quote from: Bexx27 on December 30, 2011, 09:33:04 AM ---
I would encourage anyone who's curious about all this to join the unofficial FB group, which is open to anyone and does not require you to disclose your ehell handle, and see what it's really about.

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No, Ma'am, it is not an open group.  It is listed as "closed".  There is nothing public about it.  And I know I was on the group at one time and am no longer, not by my choice.  Also, I believe at least one other moderator, possibly two, were removed from the member lists as well.  In contrast, there are no secret groups on Ehell except the Staff folder. 

And we do know from people inside that closed group that when someone "shows Ehelldame up" on the forum (Spoder, for example), it gets discussed and there are high fives.  We know there was a screen shot posted a few days ago showing an Ehell Facebook wall post of a person "calling" me out on on my inability to kill said virus and how I don't care about the site or the people that visit.   The fact that these discussions exist and have the effect of encouraging those members of the closed group to troll or make trouble on Ehell so they return to congratulatory kudos means this is not a benign group of fellow knitters discussing their latest child rearing follies.     For anyone to claim this group does not promote and encourage troublemaking on the Ehell Facebook page or the forum is either wildly ignorant or barely visits or is disingenuous about the content and actions of some people on that group that are allowed to promote trouble on Ehell. 

TheBardess:

--- Quote from: Ehelldame on December 30, 2011, 11:15:34 AM ---
--- Quote from: Bexx27 on December 30, 2011, 09:33:04 AM ---
I would encourage anyone who's curious about all this to join the unofficial FB group, which is open to anyone and does not require you to disclose your ehell handle, and see what it's really about.

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No, Ma'am, it is not an open group.  It is listed as "closed".  There is nothing public about it.  And I know I was on the group at one time and am no longer, not by my choice.  Also, I believe at least one other moderator, possibly two, were removed from the member lists as well.  In contrast, there are no secret groups on Ehell except the Staff folder. 


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It is true that the group is closed so that only members can see posts. However, it is "open to everyone" in that anyone may request to join, and the admin of the group has stated several times that no membership requests are denied.

Ehelldame:

--- Quote from: Yvaine on December 30, 2011, 10:44:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ehelldame on December 30, 2011, 10:43:31 AM ---
--- Quote from: Yvaine on December 30, 2011, 10:29:31 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ehelldame on December 30, 2011, 10:20:55 AM ---Her ban was lifted weeks ago, at least early November, by me, and she was notified of this.  She may not have received that email because I kept getting repeatedly contact from her asking to be unbanned well after she was.  However, I sometimes have bigger administrative fish to fry and do not have time to have repeated private communications over the same issues.  There are very patient, long suffering members who are due a response from their messages to me and I still haven't had the time for any replies other than a quick, "I haven't forgotten you," or a quick "I'll get back to you".

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One of the things that gets discussed a lot on ehell is "training" people to behave in certain ways. What is clear from this quote is that you respond rapidly when addressed in public, and take a while to respond when sent a PM. We're all getting trained that public posts "work" in getting issues addressed and PMs don't. You say you want PMs but your actions--probably inadvertently--say the opposite.

In addition, I think people have a right to defend themselves publicly if they are criticized publicly.

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You, of all people, know the power of private communication.  When a moderator added a group of IP addresses to the ban triggers in October, you unintentionally got caught up in that ban. It happens sometimes.  You privately contacted me and the matter was resolved with no forum drama.  You cannot, from personal experience, make any claim that your PMs have been  brushed off or not acted upon in a timely manner.  People who have legitimate forum issues such as glitches, errors, log in problems, etc. are given first priority.  Every person who PMed me with an antivirus data received prompt attention.

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No, I think you have me confused with someone else. That story did not happen to me.

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You are correct.  I apologize.  Your name is very similar to another's.   However, you do not have firsthand knowledge of contacting me personally and being rebuffed so your assertions are based on secondhand reports at best.   

Thread closed as this has once again derailed from the intended topic of the thread.

Ehelldame:
Update:

Of the few screen shots I have received of AV alerting to an attack, the information they reveal is leading me to think there is a misunderstanding as to how browsers work. 

If you are viewing Ehell on one tab but have other tabs to other sites open as well, God only knows which site actually alerted to the attack.   I am viewing Ehell right at this moment on a tab in the Fire  Fox browser but I love hopping from site to site so I have about a dozen other tabs open as well.  *All* of the tabs are active and talking with my browser even though I may not be looking at any particular site at the moment.   A few of the screenshots show people viewing Ehell when their Av alerted that it blocked an intrusion but it also shows other tabs to Twitter, Facebook, Yahoo, and other sites as being open as well. 

We need a screenshots where the only tab open and active is Ehell for there to be hope in identifying which Google Ad, assuming it is a Google Ad, that is trying to give malware. 

This particular malware has been given different names by the various AV companies but it is the same.  And it is epidemic across the Internet on even sites you would assume are safe.   Your best defense is to upgrade to a very good AV software, keep your definitions updated and scan weekly. 

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