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From the blog - Daddy's Little Girl (long)
Mental Magpie:
--- Quote from: AngelicGamer on April 11, 2012, 12:28:57 AM ---I see the LW nor the dad coming out clean here. LW should have backed off and hidden her anger better. Mike should have not snapped and used a fork. I do agree with the LW on that, sorry to anyone who uses their fingers to help place other people's food on a plate.
Also, why did Mike have to nag on the LW leaving early? She helped with set up and she really didn't have to do that as she was a guest. Since it was cleared with the hosts, then there was no problem, save for the LW's comments as she left.
It seems like the kiddo has made up her mind who to trust too, at least at the moment. The dad can be there on milestones as much as he wants, but it doesn't make up for being there more. That's his fault and not the LW's and he should leave that baggage at the door.
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I think that's a little harsh and especially uncalled for. Even E-Hell Dame recognizes that kids of that age tend to be stranger-weary. He can be upset all he likes, as I'm sure it does hurt; you don't get to decide how hurt he is. Does that mean he should have snapped at the OP? No, but that probably wasn't the only reason he snapped at her either.
Winterlight:
--- Quote from: Hollanda on April 11, 2012, 03:44:42 AM ---LW seemed determined to create conflict. Barb, to me, seemed like the consummate hostess, determined not to let anyone's attitude spoil her child's first birthday. I felt sorry for Barb...she clearly worked hard on the party and then gets LW and Mike sniping at each other. Kudos to her for not letting them see whether it upset her, at least not in public.
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I agree, though I think Mike wasn't blameless either.
wolfie:
--- Quote from: AngelicGamer on April 11, 2012, 02:32:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: MariaE on April 11, 2012, 01:56:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: AngelicGamer on April 11, 2012, 12:28:57 AM ---I see the LW nor the dad coming out clean here. LW should have backed off and hidden her anger better. Mike should have not snapped and used a fork. I do agree with the LW on that, sorry to anyone who uses their fingers to help place other people's food on a plate.
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Whenever people make this argument I wonder how they (you) feel about taking communion? In every church I've been to, the wafers are always handed out by hand. Plus communion is usually pretty late in the service, so there wouldn't even have been any recent hand-washing either - at least Mike told the LW he had washed his hands before touching the food.
I get that using a fork would look nicer, but that's about the only reason I can see for it.
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When I took communion, I still had to wash my hands before my meal no matter what. Even though I washed my hands, I still had to use serving utensils, such as a serving fork for chilled lunch meats or a serving fork for cake when we had cake.
Yes, it looks nice. It also makes everyone feel better that they don't use their fingers but that is my family. The LW's family might have been the same. On thinking about this, I do think the LW should have dropped the argument about using a fork after realizing that the dad wasn't going to. So, as I said before, nobody comes out smelling like roses. :)
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In my church the priest would give you the wafer with his hands. I don't remember him washing his hands before he gave it you either. I never could bring myself to drink the wine.
MrTango:
--- Quote from: wolfie on April 11, 2012, 05:06:29 PM ---In my church the priest would give you the wafer with his hands. I don't remember him washing his hands before he gave it you either. I never could bring myself to drink the wine.
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Some churches have gotten better at sanitation recently. My church and my parents church both have hand sanitizer dispensers hidden just out of sight where the ministers can use them right before handling the hosts & cups.
wolfie:
--- Quote from: MrTango on April 12, 2012, 02:12:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: wolfie on April 11, 2012, 05:06:29 PM ---In my church the priest would give you the wafer with his hands. I don't remember him washing his hands before he gave it you either. I never could bring myself to drink the wine.
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Some churches have gotten better at sanitation recently. My church and my parents church both have hand sanitizer dispensers hidden just out of sight where the ministers can use them right before handling the hosts & cups.
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I note you say "cups" does that mean each person gets their own cup to drink from? It's been years since I have been to church but they used to have the wine in a chalice and whip it with a cloth between each person. But they rarely had the wine available - I guess they decided the best way to make sure not to spread germs was to not have the opportunity.
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