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So my counterpart Danielle works in our other office which is in another state.  She always wants to chat by e-mail or phone.  I get in later than her because we're in different time zones but she knows what time I get in.  She always seems to expect me to send her a "good morning" e-mail every.single.morning.  If I don't she'll send me an e-mail asking why I didn't bother to say good morning.  I personally don't think I'm being rude by not doing so because we're not in the same office and don't actually see each other.  Also, doesn't matter if it's someone in the same office as me that I see or someone in the other office that I don't see, I do not like being bothered first thing in the morning when I get in.  I'm not a morning person and it takes me a little while to get going.  This does not mean I won't return a good morning to someone in my own office or anything like that, but I prefer to be left alone for at least the first hour of my shift.

I have since refused to send good morning e-mails now unless I actually feel like it.  I never said anything, just started doing it.  She seems to have adjusted.  She used to send e-mails, just typing her message in the subject line, such as "You did not say good morning" "Are you alive?" etc.  I found those offputting and quite rude and it made me want to respond to her even less.  Also, she would call me about miniscule petty stuff that she could just e-mail me about.  Getting multiple calls is distracting plus she is super chatty and would keep me on the phone.  I just no longer answer my phone when she calls and let her assume that I'm not at my desk or already on the phone.  I would think the same would go for e-mail.  I don't think e-mail requires an immediate response, especially if it's not important or work-related.

When I first stopped answering my phone she would send an e-mail immediately demanding to know where I was.  She would also e-mail and call my co-workers about where I was!  Now none of this was due to anything important ever.  We can both do our jobs without having to interact.  She has cooled it on the phone, though every once in awhile she will try to call. 

Anyways, so is she being rude?  Am I rude not to want to answer her calls or e-mails?  How else should I handle this?
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Re: No, I don't want to e-mail chat with you
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2012, 01:28:32 PM »
You are not being rude. This woman comes across as someone who is probably lonely, lacks social skills, and sees friendships where none exist. Just because she is your "counterpart" at another office does not mean you need to be her friend.

I would try ignoring the non-work related emails and if she calls to chat, simply say "I'm sorry, but I don't have time to chat. I have a lot of work to do. Bye." And hang up.

If she persists, I'd email her saying that all her advances are unprofessional, making you uncomfortable, and you would like it to stop. If it continues, take it to HR.
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Re: No, I don't want to e-mail chat with you
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2012, 01:31:35 PM »
Wow! How did this even start?

I would just continue what you are doing, but I would start adding "busy" to the conversation. She wants to chat? "Sorry, I am really busy today, I gotta go". She e-mails random stuff that do not require action: ignore.



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Re: No, I don't want to e-mail chat with you
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2012, 01:35:18 PM »
Yes, this is rude, and a massive waste of time.

If she was sitting right beside you, it would be polite to greet her. You still wouldn't have to chat - it is work, not a social event. But since she isn't in the same office and doesn't need to know where you are, you are fine to ignore her.
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Re: No, I don't want to e-mail chat with you
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2012, 01:43:50 PM »
Wow! How did this even start?

I would just continue what you are doing, but I would start adding "busy" to the conversation. She wants to chat? "Sorry, I am really busy today, I gotta go". She e-mails random stuff that do not require action: ignore.

She has been like this since I have started working here, 3.years.ago.  (3 very looong years ago!)She has been here 2 years longer than me.  But she does this with EVERYONE that starts and does what we do.  I have mentioned her before in a previous post on this board.  Anyways, a new person would start in my office and she'd send them a welcome e-mail and introduce herself and then want to become BFFs or something right away!  And the new people would ask me why she is always bugging them!  And then she would e-mail ME demanding to know why they aren't being super friendly or chatty with her!


Edited to Add: Also, I first met her when I started.  There was no one that did what we did in my office at that time until I came along.  So someone quickly trained me and the other new hires as best they could and directed us to e-mail Danielle if we had any questions.
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Re: No, I don't want to e-mail chat with you
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2012, 01:53:47 PM »
In that case: can you report it to HR? This problem seems to exceed just you, so it is probably impossible for you to solve it. You can make it managable for you though, just as the others have also stated: ignore it untill it goes away.



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Re: No, I don't want to e-mail chat with you
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2012, 02:06:30 PM »
In that case: can you report it to HR? This problem seems to exceed just you, so it is probably impossible for you to solve it. You can make it managable for you though, just as the others have also stated: ignore it untill it goes away.

I did report it to my previous supervisor, especially the excessive calling.  This was a long time ago.  So my supervisor spoke with her supervisor.  They did not tell her it was me that said something cause I didn't want them to.  But they told her they can monitor calls and that she needed to cool it on the phone.  The first thing she did after that was call me to whine about it and how ridiculous it was and that it's not a big deal and she can chat on the phone if she wants to.  (not knowing I'm the one that reported her)   :o  Anyways, I've had many more issues with her and my supervisor just got tired of hearing it.  I think I did try escalating it to HR but nothing came of that and I don't really trust our HR person anyways.

I have a new supervisor now.  Our previous project we worked on ended and I got moved to a new project and she unfortunately got moved to the same project.  My new supervisor seems really nice, I just don't want to have to escalate this if I don't have to.  I would hate for things to be awkward and I hate confrontation.   :(

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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2012, 04:02:12 PM »
I would definitely take it up with the new supervisor, emphasizing that her communications relating NON-WORK related socializing is distracting you and sucking time away from your actual WORK. If you want to make your point, you might keep a log over the course of a week of every time she contacts you demanding attention not related to WORK.

Example:

9:14 a.m. - Danielle emails me under the subject line "You haven't said good morning yet" to demand
to know what I'm doing and why I haven't wished her good morning.
 
9:40 a.m. - Danielle emails me to ask why I haven't responded to the first email.

10:30 a.m. - Danielle calls my extension.  I interupted Task XYZ to answer the call, only to discover that she is not calling regarding work.  She wants to ask why I haven't responded to her emails.

11:14 a.m. - Danielle calls my extension and asks if I'm angry with her, interrupting my completion of Task QRS.

12:30 p.m. - Danielle calls my extension, I let the call go to voice mail I could continue working on Task LMNOP. She leaves a message asking what I'm doing and why I'm not responding.

12:40 p.m. - Danielle calls my extension, I let the call go to voice mail so I could continue working on Task LMNOP.  She leaves a message asking what I'm doing and why I'm not responding.

12:50 p.m. - Danielle calls my extension, I let the call go to voice mail so I could continue working on Task LMNOP.  She leaves a message asking what I'm doing and why I'm not responding.

1:00 p.m. - Danielle calls the person sitting in the cubicle next to me to ask where I am, interupting his completion of Task HIJK.

(Notice, my emphasis is on WORK.  The supervisor may ignore comments about her annoying you personally, but she will pay attention if you state that this woman is interrupting your productivity.)


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Re: No, I don't want to e-mail chat with you
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2012, 04:17:01 PM »
By all means bring it up to the new supervisor and mention that this is an ongoing problem.  Since Danielle has been spoken to about her phone and email "stalking" (I'm not sure what the correct phrase would be) before, it may have to escalate.  You can't get a solution if no one knows there's a problem.

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Re: No, I don't want to e-mail chat with you
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2012, 04:29:26 PM »
Yes she is being rude and ridiculous. I think you should just ignore her. Don't email back and don't answer the phone. Unless her email or phone message has a specific work-related question, don't respond. Let your other co-workers deal with her however they wish to, but I think even emailing her on occasion to wish her a good morning just encourages her.

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Re: No, I don't want to e-mail chat with you
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2012, 04:51:46 PM »
Wow! is right.  So she's not just stalking saiyangerl, she stalks everyone.  When does she have time for productive work.

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Re: No, I don't want to e-mail chat with you
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2012, 05:08:34 PM »
UPDATE:  So I have just ignored her all day cause I felt like it.  I'm not particularly in a good mood because I have felt tired all day and don't feel as if I ever woke up.  So yeah I just did not want to deal with her.  She is nice when you do chat with her, but she comes across very needy and yes stalkerish as a previous poster mentioned.

She sent an initial good morning e-mail this morning and an "Are you alive?" e-mail an hour after that.  She also called while I was away on lunch, not that I would have answered the phone had I been at my desk.  She just sent me this next e-mail before leaving for the day... the subject states "Did you fall off the face of the earth :)" and the e-mail message says "Where were you?   Oh well, have a good weekend."  Seriously, why did she even bother?

I feel that if I tell my new supervisor that it will just seem petty and that she'll just tell me to ignore her anyways.  I guess for now I will see how things play out and will keep trying to ignore her.


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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2012, 05:42:02 PM »
Her behaviour would drive me around the bend too. These types of people never have anything interesting to say, it is just inane chit chat and as annoying as people who send you text messages like 'what are you up to?' (which I always ignore). I think it is some kind of psychological disorder where they need constant reinforcement and immediate replies so the feel important and connected to others.

Ignoring her for anything other than work related things is the best approach. She may well go a bit dark on you but that could be a blessing. If she brings it up say "I found I was having so many interruptions from all sorts of people throughout the company on non work related issues it was really impacting on my ability to be effective in this role. I am managing my work flow in the best way possible and cutting out all distractions. I am sure you understand."

I used to have one woman I worked with who would forward people jokes about 10-15 times a day and then call me going 'Did you get my email? You will love this it is hilarious!" Utterly maddening more like it.

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2012, 07:29:10 PM »
I'd say at this point it sounds more like harassment than someone being a little desperate for friendship. Tell your supervisor that she is making your job difficult and stressful. The fact that she does it to multiple people makes it even more of a problem. I agree to the above poster that suggested keeping a "log" of all her contact efforts.
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2012, 07:30:08 PM »
I'm not sure if this would work, but perhaps you could tell her your supervisor has spoken to YOU about being on the phone too much or using e-mail for non-business correspondence and therefore YOU will not be able to respond to her as you had before.  If you choose to do that, you should give your boss a heads up and make sure they are on board.  She may not care if she gets "spoken to," but you do and she can't argue with that.