General Etiquette > Life...in general
It's been a while since Anderson Cooper Attended a High School Graduation.
Ceallach:
--- Quote from: kareng57 on June 10, 2012, 11:40:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ceallach on June 10, 2012, 08:32:08 PM ---I personally think the rules about no cheering or clapping are unrealistic. Plus, who wants to walk across the stage in silence? Yet, I would respect those rules if they were in place. Obviously if people are breaking the rules, it's perfectly ok for the administration to respond to that.
At the graduations I have been to, you clap everytime a name is read and the recipient goes up to receive their scroll. Does that mean sore hands? Yep. And it means some people get more applause than others. But it's nice. And yes, people cheer. They cheer when somebody they know goes up to receive, and then they stop once they've been presented. And then the next name is read. I hear stories on here about excessive noise and rudeness, but I've never come across that. Sure, there's normally 1 family in every crowd who are slightly over the top, but it doesn't disrupt the ceremony. I think it's sad that this is apparently such a big deal in some places.
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I disagree. What is wrong with walking with silence?
You may have been very proud to get your diploma, and had family cheering, but what if that interfered with the next graduate whose name wasn't even heard because of all the noise?
There are other options for "noisy" celebrations - such as a dinner party after the graduation.
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Um, my post clearly noted that the next name was read after the applause and cheering concluded. Nobody's names were drowned out. Btw, you're making an interesting assumption - I never said that I was the graduate in this scenario. I have been in the audience for numerous graduation ceremonies at multiple institutions however. I'm not suggesting that everybody else is wrong in their observations, just that I'm fortunate enough never to have encountered the horrifically rude scenarios described. I do understand the necessity of such rules where such issues are encountered, and as stated in my post I would definitely adhere to any such rules were they in place. So I'm not sure what you disagree with? My experiences and observations?
I'm starting to wonder if some of these places have much smaller stages, or are the names read out really fast so as to get through a large number of graduates? All the graduations I've been to there's only one graduate on the stage at a time. There's a looooooong walk across from left to right. When the applause dies out early there is literally silence as the entire auditorum - including the staff on stage - wait for the graduate to finish walking across. Once they leave the stage the next name is read out. I'm assuming the type of graduation ceremonies described by others may be run differently, and perhaps move much more quickly than those I have observed. That would certainly explain the necessity of such regulations, if there is only a few seconds in between each name (e.g. no time for applause or cheering).
Iris:
--- Quote from: Ceallach on June 10, 2012, 08:32:08 PM ---I personally think the rules about no cheering or clapping are unrealistic. Plus, who wants to walk across the stage in silence? Yet, I would respect those rules if they were in place. Obviously if people are breaking the rules, it's perfectly ok for the administration to respond to that.
At the graduations I have been to, you clap everytime a name is read and the recipient goes up to receive their scroll. Does that mean sore hands? Yep. And it means some people get more applause than others. But it's nice. And yes, people cheer. They cheer when somebody they know goes up to receive, and then they stop once they've been presented. And then the next name is read. I hear stories on here about excessive noise and rudeness, but I've never come across that. Sure, there's normally 1 family in every crowd who are slightly over the top, but it doesn't disrupt the ceremony. I think it's sad that this is apparently such a big deal in some places.
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I partly share your feelings - dead silence seems strange based on my experiences. However, I know when I graduated university there were hundreds of us at the same ceremony. Luckily for me my degree was one of the earliest ones called and I walked across the stage to a lovely, restrained round of applause. Those later on...not so much. People simply got bored of clapping, or sore hands, or whatever. I remember feeling a little sad for those later on who probably only had their own families plus a few really determined polite people still clapping.
Perhaps the suggestion mentioned earlier of breaking for a clap every 20 students would be more viable.
AylaM:
--- Quote from: Ceallach on June 11, 2012, 03:09:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: kareng57 on June 10, 2012, 11:40:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ceallach on June 10, 2012, 08:32:08 PM ---I personally think the rules about no cheering or clapping are unrealistic. Plus, who wants to walk across the stage in silence? Yet, I would respect those rules if they were in place. Obviously if people are breaking the rules, it's perfectly ok for the administration to respond to that.
At the graduations I have been to, you clap everytime a name is read and the recipient goes up to receive their scroll. Does that mean sore hands? Yep. And it means some people get more applause than others. But it's nice. And yes, people cheer. They cheer when somebody they know goes up to receive, and then they stop once they've been presented. And then the next name is read. I hear stories on here about excessive noise and rudeness, but I've never come across that. Sure, there's normally 1 family in every crowd who are slightly over the top, but it doesn't disrupt the ceremony. I think it's sad that this is apparently such a big deal in some places.
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I disagree. What is wrong with walking with silence?
You may have been very proud to get your diploma, and had family cheering, but what if that interfered with the next graduate whose name wasn't even heard because of all the noise?
There are other options for "noisy" celebrations - such as a dinner party after the graduation.
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Um, my post clearly noted that the next name was read after the applause and cheering concluded. Nobody's names were drowned out. Btw, you're making an interesting assumption - I never said that I was the graduate in this scenario. I have been in the audience for numerous graduation ceremonies at multiple institutions however. I'm not suggesting that everybody else is wrong in their observations, just that I'm fortunate enough never to have encountered the horrifically rude scenarios described. I do understand the necessity of such rules where such issues are encountered, and as stated in my post I would definitely adhere to any such rules were they in place. So I'm not sure what you disagree with? My experiences and observations?
I'm starting to wonder if some of these places have much smaller stages, or are the names read out really fast so as to get through a large number of graduates? All the graduations I've been to there's only one graduate on the stage at a time. There's a looooooong walk across from left to right. When the applause dies out early there is literally silence as the entire auditorum - including the staff on stage - wait for the graduate to finish walking across. Once they leave the stage the next name is read out. I'm assuming the type of graduation ceremonies described by others may be run differently, and perhaps move much more quickly than those I have observed. That would certainly explain the necessity of such regulations, if there is only a few seconds in between each name (e.g. no time for applause or cheering).
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At my ceremony, the next name was read off as soon as the graduate received the diploma. As I stood the president/principals/whoever's hand, someone else was already getting ready to start their walk across the stage
NyaChan:
--- Quote from: crella on June 10, 2012, 08:24:03 PM ---While arresting people was a little overboard, the parents were wrong. With the pace some graduations move at, if one person does the 'whooo-hooo!' like the arrested mother said she did, two other families won't hear their child's name read. Her attitude was really 'it's all about me'-
--- Quote ---"I am a proud mom," said Cooper, a beautician from Florence. "And as soon as they said 'Christin' I stood up, started praising, woohooing and cheering it up for my baby. I was like 'Go baby! You did it'."
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So it sounds pretty over the top, especially after they specifically announced that people were not to cheer, and applause was to be left till the end of the ceremony.
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I find it interesting that the mom is claiming to have been so excited for her daughter's accomplishment, yet acted in a way that all people will remember is her own behavior. Poor kid.
Venus193:
I also feel sorry for that girl. Even if she was the first in her family to graduate high school, she has to remember her mother got arrested for indecorous behavior.
Anderson Cooper may not have attended a high school graduation since his own. Mine had 650 students; I was in the orchestra and we had to repeat Pomp and Circumstance about 22 times for everyone to get into the auditorium. Students entered in alphabetical order and stood around the perimeter of the auditorium so parents could sit. If the principal (or whoever) had to pause extra seconds for prolonged applause for every student the ceremony would have gone into the night.
Sorry, Anderson; you blew it this time.
Withholding a boy's diploma because of his family's behavior wasn't fair. However I can see this as a future trend if the school has decided that the students will be responsible for telling their families that they will have to behave themselves and punish them on the assumption that they failed to do this.
And Dear Abby will get letters from students about their parents non-compliance which will sabotage their ability to get into college or get jobs.
Graduations are not sporting events. They have a formal code of behavior that must be respected.
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