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Friend gave my info to a rep for her home make-up sales party. Is this okay?
jaxsue:
I'd be livid if someone gave my contact info to a sales rep, OP.
It did happen to me once, several years ago. Then-DH and I drank a lot of water (we were both long-distance runners at the time, so it was necessary). A church friend knew this and gave our info to a bottled water rep. He knocks on our door and somehow thought that because our friend gave him the info that we'd welcome him with open arms! :o
Jones:
When I was a teen I was part of a church group that planned activities for the teens, one night a week. The activities had to have something to do with our religion, but the loosest of ties could be made. During one planning session, we all thought it would be nice to do a princess night (God=King, we are His children, ergo princesses). We could dress nice, do each other’s hair and makeup and take photos. One of the adult leaders was excited and said she could arrange for some friends of hers to come do the makeovers.
Guess who showed up? Yep, an MK rep. No makeup or hair was done, we spent the entire hour being preached to about the product, and putting it on and washing it off. We’re talking about cleansers and lotions, not powder and mascara. She didn’t make any sale either, because we were all cheap, broke teenagers.
diesel_darlin:
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--- Quote from: diesel_darlin on June 25, 2012, 12:46:26 AM ---
My dad gets his taxes done by a lady that sells MK. I had also started going to her because my dad just loved her. She is one of those MK ladies that have sold so much they get a car. I can understand her desire to sell MK products. ( Who doesnt want a free car? ) What I couldn't understand was the fact that she fibbed severely to my dad.
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--- Quote ---There is a good chance she is paying to drive that car. If a director's 'unit' doesn't sell enough, she has to make co-pays (payment each month). She has to qualify each month in regard to product purchased from MK by herself and her downline (note, not sold to customers), there is no 'reach level X and be given a car'. Effectively, the car is on loan so long as the director meets targets. It's part of the reason why directors end up in so much debt - they have an incentive to buy extra product to meet the target, hoping to sell it later.
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Exactly. I knew someone who got the car, and it certainly wasn't "free." It's leased, and after a while, when this person realized she was in debt up to her eyeballs because she had to continually replace "outdated" inventory (which was actually exactly the SAME inventory, but the packaging was just changed), she tried to return the car and was told she'd have to BUY OUT the remainder of the lease, which was about $9,000. This woman and her family almost lost EVERYTHING to this scummy company. And it's a very common occurrence.
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Oh wow. I am learning a lot of things about MK that I did not know! And these facts further solidify my resolve to never, EVER, sell their product.
kareng57:
--- Quote from: Knitterly on June 25, 2012, 11:16:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: diesel_darlin on June 25, 2012, 01:18:08 AM ---
--- Quote from: Minmom3 on June 25, 2012, 01:04:17 AM ---It's my understanding that MK consultants aren't legally allowed to do the facial for you because they don't have cosmetology licenses, hence them having you do it to yourself.
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I didn't know that at the time, but I found that out shortly after. I just didn't like the whole bait and switch tactic she used.
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Something similar happened to me with a makeup sales rep. After Little Knit was born, I had a visit from Welcome Wagon, which is an organization that brings new moms/homeowners/brides/etc a gift basket of items from local business, along with coupons and other lovely things. In my gift basket was a certificate for a "pampering session" for myself and a friend. I was SOOO EXCITED. My sister was pregnant at the time, and I thought it would be really nice for her to come over and be the friend. My sister and I both got really excited.
Well, when I called and booked, it occurred to me to ask what would be included in the pampering session. The Rep informed me that she would bring over her goods and look after my baby while I tried them out myself.
:o ???
I politely informed her that I did not consider that to be a pampering session and that I did not appreciate the false advertising. I can go through my own makeup drawer and have my mother in law watch my baby while I take a bath and put makeup on myself, and I'd be far more comfortable than having a complete stranger come into my home and take my child. :P
I reported the business to the Welcome Wagon Rep, who was as confused as I was over how the business owner considered her "gift" to be a pampering session. AFAIK, the business was not included in future gift baskets.
I have a friend who sells a different brand of makeup through the home party business setup. She does put together gift bags of samples, but instead of just giving them out to everyone, she has her hostesses ask their guests if they want a bag in advance, and then either she or the hostess will deliver it, depending on the guest's preference. I prefer that way of doing things.
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Like it or not, the Welcome Wagon MK return-gift (the basket-gift is usually something like a small tube of skin cream) of a facial is very, very popular even if the MK rep isn't doing the facial herself. I agree that it should not be represented as a "pampering session" but if you intend to complain to WW that the MK rep isn't actually doing the facial herself, you'll likely get nowhere, unfortunately. MK reps tend to get many clients this way.
No, I'm not a Mary Kay rep.
Knitterly:
--- Quote from: kareng57 on June 27, 2012, 10:23:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Knitterly on June 25, 2012, 11:16:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: diesel_darlin on June 25, 2012, 01:18:08 AM ---
--- Quote from: Minmom3 on June 25, 2012, 01:04:17 AM ---It's my understanding that MK consultants aren't legally allowed to do the facial for you because they don't have cosmetology licenses, hence them having you do it to yourself.
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I didn't know that at the time, but I found that out shortly after. I just didn't like the whole bait and switch tactic she used.
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Something similar happened to me with a makeup sales rep. After Little Knit was born, I had a visit from Welcome Wagon, which is an organization that brings new moms/homeowners/brides/etc a gift basket of items from local business, along with coupons and other lovely things. In my gift basket was a certificate for a "pampering session" for myself and a friend. I was SOOO EXCITED. My sister was pregnant at the time, and I thought it would be really nice for her to come over and be the friend. My sister and I both got really excited.
Well, when I called and booked, it occurred to me to ask what would be included in the pampering session. The Rep informed me that she would bring over her goods and look after my baby while I tried them out myself.
:o ???
I politely informed her that I did not consider that to be a pampering session and that I did not appreciate the false advertising. I can go through my own makeup drawer and have my mother in law watch my baby while I take a bath and put makeup on myself, and I'd be far more comfortable than having a complete stranger come into my home and take my child. :P
I reported the business to the Welcome Wagon Rep, who was as confused as I was over how the business owner considered her "gift" to be a pampering session. AFAIK, the business was not included in future gift baskets.
I have a friend who sells a different brand of makeup through the home party business setup. She does put together gift bags of samples, but instead of just giving them out to everyone, she has her hostesses ask their guests if they want a bag in advance, and then either she or the hostess will deliver it, depending on the guest's preference. I prefer that way of doing things.
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Like it or not, the Welcome Wagon MK return-gift (the basket-gift is usually something like a small tube of skin cream) of a facial is very, very popular even if the MK rep isn't doing the facial herself. I agree that it should not be represented as a "pampering session" but if you intend to complain to WW that the MK rep isn't actually doing the facial herself, you'll likely get nowhere, unfortunately. MK reps tend to get many clients this way.
No, I'm not a Mary Kay rep.
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I did complain and the WW rep was as surprised as I was. As far as I know, that MK rep was excluded from future baskets. There was no basket gift. I had to call and book the "pampering session" in order to receive my gift.
It was the underhandedness of it and the dishonest wording that was the problem. The whole point of the WW basket is to drum up customers for local businesses, so I would have had no problem if the phrasing had been more honest. But to offer a new mom a pampering session that involves a complete and unqualified stranger coming into your home to look after your baby so you can go through their samples was.... off. It was off enough that it annoyed the WW Rep as well as me.
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