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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1905 on: October 26, 2013, 06:23:05 PM »
That is a scary one.

I'm just wondering how the switch was made?
Another possibility.  The vacation may have included a limo to the hotel then back to the airport.  The drug-packed luggage may have been in the trunk of the limo when they were picked up. 

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1906 on: October 26, 2013, 06:50:40 PM »
I was hacked too, just a couple of weeks ago!!  It was my first hacking, and boy was I mad!  I had just set up something with my Paypal account, and the next day the hacking occurred, so I thought it was through there.  So, I wrote to Paypal, to my bank, to the company that I had set up through Paypal, AND to the company whose name showed up on my bank account.   It looked exactly like what I had heard here - a tiny transaction to see that the card worked, then they cleaned out my account.  Fortunately, it was a very small account, so they only got $50.

On Monday morning, I called my bank and my debit card was cancelled for that account.  The bank said that it looked like the card was hacked, not the account, so Paypal was off the hook.  The company I had set it up for was off the hook, too.   I actually received an email from the company that stole the money!! It's a video game company based in Prague.(Google is my friend!)   They said that it looked like I was the victim of fraud, and would I email them the lines from my bank statement that reflected the fraud.  So I emailed them those 2 lines.   The next day I received another email from the company, saying that my money would be refunded!

On Thursday, the money was back in my bank account.  Whew.  Then Friday I received a paper letter from another large company, saying that they'd been hacked and 'someone may have accessed your debit card information, including the security code', and the letter listed all of the companies that were under them, and yes, I had bought something through one of them!  But that card is no longer valid, and the problem is over.  I was refunded!

For the record, I got this idea from a bank, since I did not have a credit card at the time:  Open a 2nd checking account at your same bank(mine let me have it for free), one that only you access and that does *not* have a direct deposit to it.  Use this account for only online transactions.  So, when I pay bills online, I move money into that account for the bills, then pay the bills.  That's how the guy only got $50, and didn't wipe out my entire bank account, which would have been devastating.

What an excellent idea! I can't wait until the bank opens Monday morning. I'm going to see if my bank will do this. Thanks!

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1907 on: October 26, 2013, 10:28:41 PM »
I watched the video interview.  Apparently their luggage was switched at the airport on the flight back home.  They realized it was a bit heavier than they expected and went right to customs to let them know. 

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1908 on: October 26, 2013, 10:44:34 PM »
I watched the video interview.  Apparently their luggage was switched at the airport on the flight back home.  They realized it was a bit heavier than they expected and went right to customs to let them know.

That's very clever of them. My luggage would have to be ~10kg heavier before I'd think anything other than "Hmmm, I thought this was lighter..." and absentmindedly bent over to pat the drug sniffing dog.
"Can't do anything with children, can you?" the woman said.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1909 on: October 27, 2013, 04:47:45 AM »
I watched the video interview.  Apparently their luggage was switched at the airport on the flight back home.  They realized it was a bit heavier than they expected and went right to customs to let them know.

That's very clever of them. My luggage would have to be ~10kg heavier before I'd think anything other than "Hmmm, I thought this was lighter..." and absentmindedly bent over to pat the drug sniffing dog.

I'm wondering if they'd started having an odd feeling about the holiday at some point and were looking for the catch by the time they travelled home.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1910 on: October 27, 2013, 07:41:38 AM »
I got this today. Apparently I'm in big trouble, but never fear, I will get Nigerian money

Anti-Terrorist and Monitory Crime Division.
Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Daniel McMullen (Special Agent in Charge)
 
 
 
Attn: Beneficiary,
 
 
 
This is to officially inform you that it has come to our notice and we have
thoroughly investigated with the help of our Intelligence Monitoring Network
System that you are having an illegal Transaction with Impostors. We the Federal
Bureau Of Investigation want you to stop further communication with any
Impostors claiming to be official. During our Investigation, we noticed that the
reason why you have not received your payment is because you have not fulfilled
your Financial Obligation given to you in respect of your Contract/Inheritance
Payment. Therefore, we have contacted the Federal Ministry of Finance Nigeria on
your behalf and they have brought a solution to your problem by coordinating
your payment in totalDollars5,900,000.00(Five Million Nine Hundred Thousand
Dollars).
 
 
Since the Federal Bureau of Investigation is involved in this transaction, you
have to be rest assured for this is 100% risk free it is our duty to protect
you. We the Federal Bureau Of Investigation want you to contact the ATM CARD
CENTER via email for their requirements to proceed and procure your Approval
Slip on your behalf which will cost youDollars200 and note that your Approval
Slip which contains details of the agent who will process your transaction.
 
 
CONTACT INFORMATION
NAME: Mr. Kelvin Williams
Address: 18 Koffi Crescent Apapa Lagos Nigeria
Email: kelvinwilliams@infofruad-fbi-gov.net.tf
 
 
 
Do contact Mr. Kelvin Williams of the ATM CARD CENTER with your details, and you
full information So your files would be updated after which he will send the
payment information which you'll use in making payment ofDollars200 via Western
Union Money Transfer or Money Gram Transfer for the procurement of your Approval
Slip after which the delivery of your ATM CARD will be effected to your
designated home address without any further delay. We order you get back to this
office after you have contacted the ATM SWIFT CARD CENTER and we do await your
response so we can move on with our Investigation and make sure your ATM SWIFT
CARD gets to you.
 
 
 
Thanks and hope to read from you soon.
 
 
 
Daniel McMullen
Special Agent in Charge
Criminal Division
FBI Los Angeles
1000 Wilshire Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA
Email: kelvinwilliams@infofruad-fbi-gov.net.tf
(424) 231-8570
 
 
 
Note: Do disregard any email you get from any impostors or offices claiming to
be in possession of your ATM CARD, you are hereby advice only to be in contact
with Mr. Kelvin Williams of the ATM CARD CENTER who is the rightful person to
deal with in regards to your ATM CARD PAYMENT and forward any emails you get
from impostors to this office so we could act upon and commence investigation.
________________________________
This message may contain privileged/confidential information and is intended
only for the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the named
addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please
notify the sender immediately if you have received this email by mistake and
delete this email from your system.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1911 on: October 27, 2013, 09:02:14 AM »
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you are having an illegal Transaction with Impostors.
Would a legal Transaction with Impostors be OK?  Or an illegal Transaction with Legitimate Persons?
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1912 on: October 27, 2013, 09:24:07 AM »
I just received a message from Paypal. The link didn't work, and I was glad because I was hesitant about clicking it anyway. They are  putting extra security on my account, and if the link doesn't work I was to log into my account to release it. OK. I only was sent to Paypal once, and therefore I will never donate to that charity again because it was such a mess*. I do not have my account number or a password written on my magic secret paper, so I can't do a thing.

Extra security sounds like a good thing!

Was this a scam in the making, or was it legitimate goof-up on someone's part? Hummmmm. Don't much care.

*I have tried to order a few things online, but if Paypal was my only option, I didn't complete it. I guess I understand why sellers may want it for ease of bookkeeping, but I will have nothing to do with it after the mess of back and forth with them and being double-charged, etc. Sounds like "I'm never shopping there again", doesn't it.

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« Reply #1913 on: October 27, 2013, 09:46:45 AM »
I love Mr. Williams email address: kelvinwilliams@infofruad-fbi-gov.net.tf

I see the FBI can't figure out how to spell "fraud" in an email domain. Not only that, but the "tf" at the end is the country code for the French Southern and Antarctic Lands, overseas French territories in the southern Indian Ocean and a claim that France has made for part of Antarctica. Amazing how that FBI agent in Nigeria is stuck with that obscure email domain instead of, oh, fbi.gov, for instance.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1914 on: October 27, 2013, 10:38:07 AM »
Yes, Luci, that Paypal message is fraudulent.  The scammer wants your Paypal account ID and password.  It's just like the messages from banks that you have no account with. It's called phishing; if they send out enough emails, some sucker will bite on it and they can empty his account.

In general, if ANY email that purports to be from a financial institute wants you to click here and enter your ID and password, it's fraudulent.  If you think that it might be legitimate, go to the site using your bookmarks/favorites/typing it in, never by clicking the message's link. 
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« Reply #1915 on: October 27, 2013, 12:17:36 PM »
Yes, Luci, that Paypal message is fraudulent.  The scammer wants your Paypal account ID and password.  It's just like the messages from banks that you have no account with. It's called phishing; if they send out enough emails, some sucker will bite on it and they can empty his account.

In general, if ANY email that purports to be from a financial institute wants you to click here and enter your ID and password, it's fraudulent.  If you think that it might be legitimate, go to the site using your bookmarks/favorites/typing it in, never by clicking the message's link.

Thank you for confirming my thoughts. When I get those messages "from my bank", I pick up the phone, but no such recourse with Paypal.

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« Reply #1916 on: October 27, 2013, 12:38:51 PM »
I guess I understand why sellers may want it for ease of bookkeeping, but I will have nothing to do with it after the mess of back and forth with them and being double-charged, etc. Sounds like "I'm never shopping there again", doesn't it.

Ease of bookkeeping has nothing to do with, in my case. It is one of the few ways I have to accept credit cards, as getting a merchant account is nearly impossible for a small business and a lot more expensive.

Back on topic!

A business's information (owner, business address, etc) is published when the business is registered. Immediately after I registered mine, I got about a dozen invoices from "Business Bureau", "Business Association", "Retailer's Association", etc. All of them with a very short deadline, stating that I had to pay my annual fee and quoting a federal law number to be compliant. Very official looking.

Except that they are all crooks. I am not legally obliged to be part of any such association. The law they are quoting merely states how such associations should be run. However, if I did pay the invoice, I would be legally enrolled in the association and obliged to pay the annual fees. It is even more convincing when you consider the bureaucratic mess this country is and all the paperwork, fees and stuff involved in opening a small business.

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« Reply #1917 on: October 27, 2013, 03:04:45 PM »
I have gotten calls lately that 'this is the 2nd notice that your car's warranty is expired'.  Last time I got one, I told DH that is was interesting as 1, I didn't have a car at the time, and 2, I never got a first notice.  LOL.

I guess they assume saying second notice will make people think its urgent and respond.

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« Reply #1918 on: October 27, 2013, 05:30:30 PM »
I have gotten calls lately that 'this is the 2nd notice that your car's warranty is expired'.  Last time I got one, I told DH that is was interesting as 1, I didn't have a car at the time, and 2, I never got a first notice.  LOL.

I guess they assume saying second notice will make people think its urgent and respond.

I have been known to answer or call these people in a hysterical panic. "Oh, no! What will I do? How awful! Which car is it?" nearly sobbing.

Now I just realize that these agents must be REALLY desperate for a job, so I don't tease them. I have a nice recycling bin and know how to use my caller ID display. They rarely leave a message.

By the way: We were away for 6 days recently and only had two missed calls! I wonder if our plan of not answering the phone to unknown callers is working? Nah...too much to hope for.

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« Reply #1919 on: October 27, 2013, 05:45:15 PM »
Yes, Luci, that Paypal message is fraudulent.  The scammer wants your Paypal account ID and password.  It's just like the messages from banks that you have no account with. It's called phishing; if they send out enough emails, some sucker will bite on it and they can empty his account.

In general, if ANY email that purports to be from a financial institute wants you to click here and enter your ID and password, it's fraudulent.  If you think that it might be legitimate, go to the site using your bookmarks/favorites/typing it in, never by clicking the message's link.

Thank you for confirming my thoughts. When I get those messages "from my bank", I pick up the phone, but no such recourse with Paypal.

You can call paypal to confirm messages from them.  I do it all the time.