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Mary Lennox

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #1920 on: October 27, 2013, 06:04:49 PM »
I have gotten calls lately that 'this is the 2nd notice that your car's warranty is expired'.  Last time I got one, I told DH that is was interesting as 1, I didn't have a car at the time, and 2, I never got a first notice.  LOL.

I guess they assume saying second notice will make people think its urgent and respond.

Grr I hate these people. They make my job so much harder because I work for a car warranty company. Try explaining to a customer that just because they said they were from a warranty company (they never say which one though) and you gave them your credit card, doesn't mean you have a warranty with our company.

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« Reply #1921 on: October 27, 2013, 06:24:13 PM »
LOL - when I got phone calls about "your warranty is about to expire"  I'd tell them (truthfully) that my car had been totaled several years ago.

the car I drive now... was DH's before we got married - my name's not on it
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Sirius

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« Reply #1922 on: October 27, 2013, 09:49:02 PM »
I have gotten calls lately that 'this is the 2nd notice that your car's warranty is expired'.  Last time I got one, I told DH that is was interesting as 1, I didn't have a car at the time, and 2, I never got a first notice.  LOL.

I guess they assume saying second notice will make people think its urgent and respond.

I've gotten a couple of those.  My car is a 1995. 

Tsaiko

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« Reply #1923 on: October 28, 2013, 07:20:45 AM »
I guess I understand why sellers may want it for ease of bookkeeping, but I will have nothing to do with it after the mess of back and forth with them and being double-charged, etc. Sounds like "I'm never shopping there again", doesn't it.

Ease of bookkeeping has nothing to do with, in my case. It is one of the few ways I have to accept credit cards, as getting a merchant account is nearly impossible for a small business and a lot more expensive.

Back on topic!

A business's information (owner, business address, etc) is published when the business is registered. Immediately after I registered mine, I got about a dozen invoices from "Business Bureau", "Business Association", "Retailer's Association", etc. All of them with a very short deadline, stating that I had to pay my annual fee and quoting a federal law number to be compliant. Very official looking.

Except that they are all crooks. I am not legally obliged to be part of any such association. The law they are quoting merely states how such associations should be run. However, if I did pay the invoice, I would be legally enrolled in the association and obliged to pay the annual fees. It is even more convincing when you consider the bureaucratic mess this country is and all the paperwork, fees and stuff involved in opening a small business.

This also happens if you register or update your contact information for a domain name. When I first registered my own domain name for my website, I got a number of letters on the first year anniversary of the registration from different companies. "Your domain name is about to expire! Send us $$ to renew or you could lose your domain name FOREVER."

What happens is that if you do send them money, is that they take over the registration from the company you first registered with and then charge you $$$$ every year to keep it or they turn it into some porn/link spam site. Very underhanded.

The worse explosion of unsolicited mail I ever got though was when I was a passenger in a car involved in a fender bender. Guy behind us hit the car. My name and address were taken by the police because I was a witness. The guy who hit us was clearly at fault, but there was some dispute about whether the car I was in had a red light (we did) and should have stopped (we should have). Because my information was on the police report, it was became public record.

Within days I got DOZENS of letters from various law offices wanting to represent me in court for my injuries. Never mind that I was not injured now, didn't I know that injuries could appear weeks, months, and even years later? I should file immediately to get all the monetary damages I deserved for my non-existent pain and suffering. Several of the letters even stated that they had doctor's offices they recommended for diagnosis (and I'm sure these "doctors" always found something wrong with a little help from a kickback from the law offices). The letters continued for at least 3 months. By the end I must have gotten well over 100 different letters, sometimes multiple ones from the same office.

I have never been so disgusted in my life. These lawyers were the reason the term "ambulance chaser" was invented.

Redwing

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« Reply #1924 on: October 28, 2013, 07:39:06 AM »
I have gotten calls lately that 'this is the 2nd notice that your car's warranty is expired'.  Last time I got one, I told DH that is was interesting as 1, I didn't have a car at the time, and 2, I never got a first notice.  LOL.

I guess they assume saying second notice will make people think its urgent and respond.

I've gotten a couple of those.  My car is a 1995.

I just got mine last week.  I get them about once a year.  I work for my local police department in a fairly large agency.  We have many, many cars!

GreenHall

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« Reply #1925 on: October 28, 2013, 07:44:00 AM »
*snip*
The worse explosion of unsolicited mail I ever got though was when I was a passenger in a car involved in a fender bender.
*snip*

I collected quite a number after my recent speeding ticket.  I could not believe the number of people who wanted to defend me; never mind having no clue we HAD that many driving schools.  I wonder what the investment is by the law offices to get those lists...

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« Reply #1926 on: October 28, 2013, 08:12:27 AM »

This also happens if you register or update your contact information for a domain name. When I first registered my own domain name for my website, I got a number of letters on the first year anniversary of the registration from different companies. "Your domain name is about to expire! Send us $$ to renew or you could lose your domain name FOREVER."
Most hosting companies offer domain privacy for free.  I know I have it on all of my domains.  I've never been contacted by anyone other than my host company when it's time to renew.

I collected quite a number after my recent speeding ticket.  I could not believe the number of people who wanted to defend me; never mind having no clue we HAD that many driving schools.  I wonder what the investment is by the law offices to get those lists...

If you are in the US, it's probably free.  the only thing they invest is time.  In my state you can go online and look up pending court cases.  That will give you names, trail dates, etc.

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« Reply #1927 on: October 28, 2013, 01:52:10 PM »
Oh yeah, I've received emails for a few years now, from these supposed law firms who want to represent me, so that I can get the "compensation (I) deserve" for my "injury".

Basically what happened was, a few years ago, I was living in a shared house at university. My housemate came in for a chat, and sat on the floor with his legs stretched out in front of him. I walked across the room, tripped over him, and he accompanied me to A&E  (ER) because I hurt my knee. No major damage done, but it happened to be the knee that I broke when I was about 16, didn't realise, and never had treated. Ever since I tripped over my friend, though, there has been no end of compensation lawyers wanting me to sue him.  :P
Not that I see any point. It was my fault for not looking where I was going!
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« Reply #1928 on: October 28, 2013, 03:42:43 PM »
Got one today. One of the institutions we work with has had their phone systems hacked. How do we know? Well, they're calling us with dead air on their end. As we are a separate company and not an actual member, it doesn't work to try to convince us that they need our personal banking information.

When the salespeople call back to the main number, there's a new message on the automated system reminding everyone not to give out any personal information by telephone unless their clients call in first to make sure they're talking with an authorized representative of their company.

Micah

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« Reply #1929 on: October 28, 2013, 04:50:52 PM »
Speaking of lawyers.....

This happened quite a while ago. The year before I met my other half, he rear ended someone while he was driving. The road was very narrow and VERY windy. Blind corner after blind corner. It was fairly late at night and the other driver had come to a complete STOP in the middle of the road! He'd also switched off his lights, so OH didn't see him at all until he smashed into him. After he hit him, the other driver sped off. OH's radiator was completely totalled, so he couldn't follow him.

OH basically didn't think any more of it, other than telling the story as "a weird thing that happened to me." Well, just after I met him, he got nasty, official looking letter from a law firm. The firm said that his actions had severely damaged their client's car, as well as causing a great deal of pain and suffering to their client. They demanded five thousand dollars in compensation. Payable immediately, or they'd be taking him to court. OH freaked! He didn't have that kind of money, not to mention that he hadn't been the one at fault! There had been no police report, so his word against the other person's. I told him to ignore it. He'd either hear from them again, or he wouldn't. Never hear from them again.

I reckon it was a fishing expedition on the firm's part. They knew they didn't have a leg to stand on so they thought they'd send the letter in the hopes that OH would be so freaked that he'd just pay to avoid the threat of court  >:(
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« Reply #1930 on: October 28, 2013, 04:56:41 PM »
An elderly friend of my father's got a letter like this years ago.  He'd been in an accident; the other party was completely at fault.  They'd pulled out of a driveway without looking and he hit them.  On top of that, EF's first language was not English.

Fortunately, he came to my Dad with the letter.  Who went with him to his insurance agent.  Who called the lawyer involved.  And informed him that his clients were entirely at fault in the accident and that if he wanted to go forward with the suit, EF would be counter suing for pain and suffering.

And that was the end of it.

I repeat:  There should be a special circle of hell right behind child molesters and murderers for people who (attempt to) scam the elderly.
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« Reply #1931 on: October 28, 2013, 05:12:03 PM »
A friend of mine, who is a doctor, lived in the US for a while and told me this story.

His kids had some friends over, children of a colleague of his, also a doctor. At some point, the children were running, one of the guests slipped and cut his head on the window sill. Both fathers looked at it, applied a bandage, checked that no harm was done and sent the child off to play. Then, his colleague asked him if he had home insurance. "Because, if you do, I am going to go ahead and sue you, to get some money out of it."

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« Reply #1932 on: October 28, 2013, 06:18:40 PM »
An attempted scammer story that will give you faith in your fellow humans.


BIL was the 2nd car at a light. The light turned green, car in front waited till intersection was clear, pulled out. BIL Followed.


Woman coming down cross street runs the red and T-bones BIL. Starts yelling and screaming how BIL hit her (With the middle of his passenger door  ::) . Woman is having 9 kinds of fits calling BIL irresponsible teen (Wasn't a teen).


Multiple witnesses pull into parking lots, make sure BIL is ok, call 911 to get him out of the car. Comfort the young child of Screaming woman - who is ignoring the child except to scream that BIL nearly killed the child. And they all give the cops and BIL their information. Then later most of them spoke to the insurance company and confirmed BIL was not at fault. She had to pay damages to BIL.

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« Reply #1933 on: October 28, 2013, 06:39:21 PM »
oooh DH just got a voicemail from "verizon technical support" who wants to give him a $40 credit if he just goes to verizon40.com and logs in with his account info.  Too bad I'm the one with the account.  Nice try! 

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« Reply #1934 on: October 29, 2013, 08:19:20 AM »
From today's spam box: "Life is short. Have an affair."
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