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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2145 on: January 06, 2014, 12:03:25 PM »
Somewhere in this thread when it was newish, I wrote a story about a woman on side of road asking for money because her car ran out of gas (and said her baby was in the back seat though I saw no evidence; cue violins).  Then a short time later at the mall parking lot, a young man did the same thing.

I think there were other similar stories and when the poster(s) offered to get a can of gas, they "don't want to be a bother so please just give me money."  Yeah.  Scam.

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« Reply #2146 on: January 06, 2014, 03:53:14 PM »
I had a website get through my popup blocker the other day. At first glance it was very official looking and quite scary.....Supposedly it was from the AFP (Australian Federal Police) and they'd found that my laptop had illegal files and downloads on it. Apparently they'd locked my browser and if I didn't pay the fine then and there I'd have to go to court and possibly face jail time. Admittedly my first response was "Gah! :o" especially when the page WOULD NOT GO AWAY and wouldn't allow me to access any other pages. Then I read the wall 'o' text more carefully. Apparently the 'illegal files' included child pron and videos of a deviant nature. Nuh, uh, I guarantee there's nothing of that sort on my computer. Also, the AFP logo was ever so slightly wrong, there were a few spelling mistakes and they wanted me to pay the $100 dollar fine in internet vouchers!  ::) I dunno, but I reckon if the AFP thought I had child pron on my computer they wouldn't be blocking my browser and wanting me to pay a $100 fine to avoid court and jail. There'd be a few people knocking my door down, seizing computers in the house and asking some very pointed questions. Luckily I back everything important up to usb, so I just formatted back to factory settings and started again, just in case.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2147 on: January 06, 2014, 06:58:12 PM »
I had a website get through my popup blocker the other day. At first glance it was very official looking and quite scary.....Supposedly it was from the AFP (Australian Federal Police) and they'd found that my laptop had illegal files and downloads on it. Apparently they'd locked my browser and if I didn't pay the fine then and there I'd have to go to court and possibly face jail time. Admittedly my first response was "Gah! :o" especially when the page WOULD NOT GO AWAY and wouldn't allow me to access any other pages. Then I read the wall 'o' text more carefully. Apparently the 'illegal files' included child pron and videos of a deviant nature. Nuh, uh, I guarantee there's nothing of that sort on my computer. Also, the AFP logo was ever so slightly wrong, there were a few spelling mistakes and they wanted me to pay the $100 dollar fine in internet vouchers!  ::) I dunno, but I reckon if the AFP thought I had child pron on my computer they wouldn't be blocking my browser and wanting me to pay a $100 fine to avoid court and jail. There'd be a few people knocking my door down, seizing computers in the house and asking some very pointed questions. Luckily I back everything important up to usb, so I just formatted back to factory settings and started again, just in case.

Tried that in November - the computer locked up.  Got the recovery disk set from the company & tried again.  Got Crystal Disk installed to a different computer and checked the status of the hard drive, in an external caddy, how many times it had been restarted, how many hours it had been powered on (over two years), and the number of bad sectors, etc.  It was in bad shape - so I tried running the recovery disk set with a NEWER hard drive in good shape.

I can get a Linux distro installed & it will run on either hard drive...but it does not want to work with Windows 7 at all.

Last time we buy a refurbished laptop...I have no idea if that was related to the early failure or not.  It's sitting in my "office" waiting until I get over the flu completely to mess with it any more.  Or take it, the recovery disk set, a new hard drive, and some money to a repair shop to let them fix it. 
Let sleeping dragons be.......morning breath......need I explain?

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« Reply #2148 on: January 06, 2014, 11:32:31 PM »
Tried that in November - the computer locked up.  Got the recovery disk set from the company & tried again.  Got Crystal Disk installed to a different computer and checked the status of the hard drive, in an external caddy, how many times it had been restarted, how many hours it had been powered on (over two years), and the number of bad sectors, etc.  It was in bad shape - so I tried running the recovery disk set with a NEWER hard drive in good shape.

I can get a Linux distro installed & it will run on either hard drive...but it does not want to work with Windows 7 at all.

Last time we buy a refurbished laptop...I have no idea if that was related to the early failure or not.  It's sitting in my "office" waiting until I get over the flu completely to mess with it any more.  Or take it, the recovery disk set, a new hard drive, and some money to a repair shop to let them fix it. 
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Dunno, format back to factory worked fine for me. Only took about an hour all up and completely got rid of the 'federal police', heh  :P
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2149 on: January 07, 2014, 06:18:18 AM »
Surely Derby is THE Derby city?

But the Derby is run at Epsom, first Saturday in June. Used to be the first Wednesday, but they changed it.

There was a Tv documentary about scammers on last week in the UK. Some people were deliberately inviting people to come and collect the money they were asking for as a security for much larger payments. They got one chap come all the way from Africa to a remote area of Cornwall, and then told him he was a scammer. He beat a hasty retreat. Risky though.

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« Reply #2150 on: January 07, 2014, 08:48:28 AM »
I had a website get through my popup blocker the other day. At first glance it was very official looking and quite scary.....Supposedly it was from the AFP (Australian Federal Police) and they'd found that my laptop had illegal files and downloads on it. Apparently they'd locked my browser and if I didn't pay the fine then and there I'd have to go to court and possibly face jail time. Admittedly my first response was "Gah! :o" especially when the page WOULD NOT GO AWAY and wouldn't allow me to access any other pages. Then I read the wall 'o' text more carefully. Apparently the 'illegal files' included child pron and videos of a deviant nature. Nuh, uh, I guarantee there's nothing of that sort on my computer. Also, the AFP logo was ever so slightly wrong, there were a few spelling mistakes and they wanted me to pay the $100 dollar fine in internet vouchers!  ::) I dunno, but I reckon if the AFP thought I had child pron on my computer they wouldn't be blocking my browser and wanting me to pay a $100 fine to avoid court and jail. There'd be a few people knocking my door down, seizing computers in the house and asking some very pointed questions. Luckily I back everything important up to usb, so I just formatted back to factory settings and started again, just in case.

I have been shut down twice by the FBI and CIA for trafficking in child pron....complete with the logos of both departments and a few hideous pictures supposedly taken from my computer.  All I needed to do was send $350 to a Paypal account and they would unfreeze my computer.  Because, of course, the FBI and CIA just want the fine money and they will let me go back to trafficking again and not come to tear my house apart.

I kind of admire the scammers' naivety when setting these things up.  They seem almost childlike in their belief...and I suppose they should be since so many allegedly intelligent human beings fall for it every year.

Don't remember if I mentioned my elderly neighbor who was being harassed by "the Jamaican FBI" to pay them $2500.  Why?  Well, it seems she had won millions in the Jamaican national sweepstakes and if she didn't send them the $2500 clearing fee to get the money, they would put her in jail.

Because that's what you do with prize winners.  My inclination is to say "take the money out of my winnings."

Monsters.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2151 on: January 07, 2014, 08:52:33 AM »
With regard to side of the road scammers:

In Connecticut we had a case years ago, where a young couple would stand at major intersections in various towns with their children, holding up signs about how they were working but couldn't make ends meet.  Or they would hold up signs about being needy and hungry and needing money for food.  Sometimes they had signs that read "Will work for food", but what ultimately happened was they got money.

Turned out they lived in the best neighborhood of the richest city in the state and had decided they just didn't feel like actually working for a living anymore.  They weren't millionaires, but they were revealed to be pretty well off.  Once they got outed, I wonder if they had trouble looking for real work to pay their bills.


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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2152 on: January 07, 2014, 12:28:05 PM »

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I got the same email from Costco.  ::)

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2153 on: January 07, 2014, 04:59:59 PM »
I don't know if this would considered a scam or something more sinister but the guy was trying to scam me for something.

When I was 18, working my first job, I had a flat tire on the way to work.  It was on a fairly busy highway, but at an off time, so while there were cars driving by, it wasn't just crazy or anything.  Anyway, I was waiting for the person I had called to arrive and some old guy in a pick-up stopped.  He came back to my car and told me he could fix my tire and get me back on the road.  Great.  Only one problem, he wanted me to get in his truck and run to his house with him to air the tire up because he didn't 'feel safe' leaving me on the side of a busy highway.  I kept telling him no but he wouldn't leave.  I was in my car with the windows up and the doors locked.  This was pre-cell phone days, so it was either stay in the car and hope he didn't break the window or jump out and try to make it to the business a few yards away.

Thankfully a friend of my brother's came by and stopped in his tow truck.  He had recognized the car from when my brother drove it.  He got out and saw the man and me frantically motioning for him to leave.  So he got a tire iron off the back of his truck and started towards the guy, yelling, asking him what he was doing.  The man took off to his truck and sped off.

My brother's friend fixed my tire and followed on to my job in case the guy was just waiting further up the road. 

I always wondered if I should have called the law or if the guy was really a nice but clueless old man.  Better safe than sorry, though.

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« Reply #2154 on: January 09, 2014, 08:17:53 AM »
Apparently, the theme of scammers this week is "hook 'em with mystery".

My first e-mail of the day:

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Seasonal Greetings,
 Wishing you and the family a fresh start in the Year 2014. I am, Marcolin Ernst, Pardon my unannounced email correspondence to you. I have issues to communicate with you as regards findings here at my work environment, but i need to know if this is the best medium to communicate with you. Should you request that we speak on phone, then it is best to let me know, However, I would expect a statement from you soonest.
I hope to read from you soon,
 
Cheers and Have a Nice Day,
Yours Faithfully,
Marcolin

Hmmm, what could a person I don't know have found in his "work environment" that would be of interest to me? I don't think I'll follow up, though. I hate dealing with people who have issues. By the way, is Marcolin Ernst, Pardon some sort of European title? Is a Pardon above or below an Esquire? I can never remember.

My second is even shorter and sweeter:

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Hello.
I contacted you some days ago with regards a discreet business asset available to me at my bank and directly concerning you. Please confirm if you received my last message with the details.

DID YOU ?

NO I DIDN'T. But I suspect that last message never really existed.
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« Reply #2155 on: January 09, 2014, 09:11:15 AM »
Jules1980 wrote:

"I kept telling him no but he wouldn't leave.  I was in my car with the windows up and the doors locked.  This was pre-cell phone days, so it was either stay in the car and hope he didn't break the window or jump out and try to make it to the business a few yards away...I always wondered if I should have called the law or if the guy was really a nice but clueless old man."

You should have called law enforcement.  Asking you to leave the scene with him, refusing to leave even after you asked, and then running off when someone else showed up are all good indicators of a setup for foul play.  As my PSA for the day, please always remember that a car with a flat tire can still move.  If you ever find yourself in this sort of situation, just drive the car to the nearest safe location, no matter the distance.  It's much better to bend a rim than to subject yourself to danger, whether it's from someone like this man or being in a position to get hit by passing traffic.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2156 on: January 09, 2014, 09:18:29 AM »
I don't know if this would considered a scam or something more sinister but the guy was trying to scam me for something.

When I was 18, working my first job, I had a flat tire on the way to work.  It was on a fairly busy highway, but at an off time, so while there were cars driving by, it wasn't just crazy or anything.  Anyway, I was waiting for the person I had called to arrive and some old guy in a pick-up stopped.  He came back to my car and told me he could fix my tire and get me back on the road.  Great.  Only one problem, he wanted me to get in his truck and run to his house with him to air the tire up because he didn't 'feel safe' leaving me on the side of a busy highway.  I kept telling him no but he wouldn't leave.  I was in my car with the windows up and the doors locked.  This was pre-cell phone days, so it was either stay in the car and hope he didn't break the window or jump out and try to make it to the business a few yards away.

Thankfully a friend of my brother's came by and stopped in his tow truck.  He had recognized the car from when my brother drove it.  He got out and saw the man and me frantically motioning for him to leave.  So he got a tire iron off the back of his truck and started towards the guy, yelling, asking him what he was doing.  The man took off to his truck and sped off.

My brother's friend fixed my tire and followed on to my job in case the guy was just waiting further up the road. 

I always wondered if I should have called the law or if the guy was really a nice but clueless old man.  Better safe than sorry, though.

I just shivered! Yeah, he was up to something BAD.



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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2157 on: January 09, 2014, 10:48:14 AM »
Jules1980 wrote:

"I kept telling him no but he wouldn't leave.  I was in my car with the windows up and the doors locked.  This was pre-cell phone days, so it was either stay in the car and hope he didn't break the window or jump out and try to make it to the business a few yards away...I always wondered if I should have called the law or if the guy was really a nice but clueless old man."

You should have called law enforcement.  Asking you to leave the scene with him, refusing to leave even after you asked, and then running off when someone else showed up are all good indicators of a setup for foul play.  As my PSA for the day, please always remember that a car with a flat tire can still move.  If you ever find yourself in this sort of situation, just drive the car to the nearest safe location, no matter the distance.  It's much better to bend a rim than to subject yourself to danger, whether it's from someone like this man or being in a position to get hit by passing traffic.

Virg

The poster mentioned they did not have a mobile phone. She would have had to leave the car in order to get to a phone.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2158 on: January 09, 2014, 11:18:27 AM »
I love time ago when I lived in Big City (well, it was big to me! I grew up in a tiny town of 4,000), there was an ongoing scam where a guy would roam the highway just south of Big City.  If anyone's car died (and they did, frequently), he'd drive up like a concerned citizen and offer to help, being a mechanic himself (liar liar pants on fire!).   Then he'd say that the car was totally trashed and he'd be happy to take it off their hands for Very Low Price.   I don't know how many times he scored a decent car that way, but fortunately, I never saw him.

Another old scam that my father would run up against is where a "good samaritan" would offer to help, then charge $100 or more to help change a tire, refill a radiator with water that he just happened to have on hand, etc. 

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« Reply #2159 on: January 09, 2014, 04:51:16 PM »
Another scam e-mail (my day isn't complete unless I get one of these LOL):

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I wish to notify you that Late Mr. Asraf made you a beneficiary of his Will. He left the sum of Six Million, One Hundred Thousand Euros (€6, 100,000.00) to you in the Codicil and last testament to his Will. This may sound strange and unbelievable to you, you are advised to contact Barrister Vincent Getty via email which is below for more information;
 

Yours in Service,
Jessica

Wow, so many total strangers include me in their wills. Am I lucky or what?  ::)