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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2280 on: February 15, 2014, 12:55:42 PM »
I've gotten several phone calls this week from "Microsoft Technical Department". For those who don't know, this scam involves people who claim to be from Microsoft or an affiliated company.  Viruses/corrupted files have been detected on your computer.  To fix the problem, you just have to follow instructions and type some simple commands into your computer.

I hang up as soon as the scammer introduces himself, so I only know about what comes next because I've read explanations on the Web. The scammer directs you to look at a certain file which is full of error messages.  These are all normal, minor errors, but the scammer claims that they are proof that Terrible Things will happen if you don't follow his instructions. Next, he has you download some software that will allow him to control your computer remotely.  Then he "fixes" your computer and badgers you into buying an expensive "software warranty".  Naturally he needs your credit card information for that.  The scariest part is that the scammer now has access to your computer.  He can introduce viruses, steal personal information, or delete all your files.

From what I've read, most of these scammers operate out of large call centers in India.  They use various techniques to conceal their phone numbers from Caller ID, and they target people in English-speaking countries: U.S., Canada, UK, and Australia.
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« Reply #2281 on: February 15, 2014, 01:57:12 PM »
They also target the Netherlands. I keep talking to them in Dutch. They keep asking me to speak English. I keep asking them to speak Dutch. So far it's been very effective to make them hang up on me.

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« Reply #2282 on: February 15, 2014, 02:22:23 PM »
I love it.

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« Reply #2283 on: February 15, 2014, 04:43:42 PM »
My Mother got another fake grandchild call. Remembering our discussion after the last one she asked if it was Sean. He said yes and that he was in Greece and... She said have a nice day I dont have a grandson named Sean then hung up on him.

She called me to brag about it :)

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« Reply #2284 on: February 15, 2014, 05:41:41 PM »
Last year I got a call from a number with a New York area code.  It was a man with a foreign accent I couldn't quite place that pretty much stated he was was a bill collector.  I was used to getting collection calls as husband and I had some large medical bills we were struggling to pay.  I can't remember exactly what the guy stated to me at first but he got to the point that was told me that if I didn't pay the debt today we would be in court in the next few days.  I told him that was funny because I had not been served with court papers which is the absolute law in my state.  A bill collector could lose the case if I can prove I haven't been served. Plus my degree is in Criminal Justice which required me to take many classes about law to get that degree.  So even though I'm not a lawyer I'm pretty familiar with how civil and criminal cases arrive in court.  Once I made it clear that I knew the law he hung up on me.

I ended up googleing the phone number and found out it was a scammer (which I thought it was).  They will call someone claiming they are a debt collector and the debt must be paid today or you will be sued.  Unfortunately some people have fallen for the scam and lost their money.  Luckily after going through bankruptcy and having my education in a law related field I picked up on the scam and held onto my money to pay my legitimate debts to the right people.

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« Reply #2285 on: February 15, 2014, 08:30:13 PM »
Maybe that's what that "collection agency" call was the other night.  It was a recording, so I just hung up on them.  If it really was a collection agency, they can have a human being call me.  We have no outstanding debts, in fact no debts at all beyond the car payment, so maybe they were trying to collect something from some relative or quasi-relative?  I know that DD1 got a call from a collection agency about her ex-husband's father, several years after she divorced XH. 
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« Reply #2286 on: February 15, 2014, 09:11:15 PM »
I got an email from Kickstarter.Com (fund raising website) today saying their data was hacked.  They said email addresses and passwords were taken so if you used the same password for any other site it was advisable to change it. 

Since they included a link to change your data I assumed it was a scam.  Hours later, I went to the official website and they DID have a warning about stolen data.

Because I'm lazy about passwords (Paypal, Amazon, etc.) I spent a frantic 20 minutes changing each an every one.  Then I deleted my Kickstarter account.  If a friend or relative launches a project, I (might) send a check.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2287 on: February 15, 2014, 09:26:34 PM »
My Mother got another fake grandchild call. Remembering our discussion after the last one she asked if it was Sean. He said yes and that he was in Greece and... She said have a nice day I dont have a grandson named Sean then hung up on him.

She called me to brag about it :)

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« Reply #2288 on: February 15, 2014, 11:29:34 PM »
Yesterday, at the end of the day, I got an e-mail into my work inbox that was pretty obviously one of those ecard scams.  "Someone at your workplace is thinking of you!" complete with "click here to view ecard!"

I was immediately suspicious.  I moused over the link and looked at what popped up in the bar below:  some sort of vacation site in Spanish.

I deleted and mentioned to my manager that I'd gotten a malicious spam message.  She laughed and said, "It's a trick that was sent out by corporate security!  Anyone who clicked on it got a scolding warning message telling them to never do such a thing again!"

It was a test.  I passed. :D



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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2289 on: February 16, 2014, 12:46:09 AM »
oooh sneaky sneaky smart corporate security

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« Reply #2290 on: February 16, 2014, 01:39:05 PM »
There are so many panhandlers out on the streets at many traffic lights where you have to wait a long time for the light to turn green.  They all carry foldable cardboard signs that say homeless, or will work for food/hungry, etc.  They then walk down the line of traffic with sad faces asking for handouts.  It isn't that I am against helping someone out, but that they are there everyday and I am very suspicious that they are just scammers.  One intersection has a panhandler in each direction and so I pass by them twice.  They keep an eye out for police and quickly fold their sign when they spot police.  On my way to and from appointments I now pass up to six a day.

People panhandling in the median has been a big problem in my area. So much so that BigCity has passed an ordinance against loitering in the median, citing safety considerations. It's being challenged in the courts by local homeless advocates.

Something else I've seen around lately: Young men, standing in the median, asking for donations for the local children's hospital. The donation cans do have the logo of the hospital on them, but that's easy enough to get off the internet. It may be completely legit, but I question if it's a good way to raise money. I suspect it's another one of those "10 cents for every dollar raised goes to the cause" groups.

Our school had a charity drive requiring each student to take a (sealed) can and beg for donations. It was a great cause, but not well executed on the school's part. Additionally we had to go to at least one business in walking distance of our home.

The only businesses fitting that near a good friend were a payday loan place that everyone knew sold drugs, and a biker bar.

She actually did really well in the bar, but I think the school board memeber who decided we could fail if we didn't do this should've been fired. (I went to a reptile lover's swap meet, on the logic that anywhere my family is, is home. And since it was one of the few animal shelters that would take herps and find them good, knowledgeable homes, I did pretty well. But my Spiel was "I'm failing 9th grade if I don't do this, so how would you like to improve the lives of animals AND prevent me from repeating 9th grade? If not, its cool, i always wanted to be a 25 year old high school student like on Dawson's Creek.")


Wha wha wha whatttt!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


The school board members who did this should not be fired. They and every idiot administrator who went along with it should be charged with child abuse/endangerment and stripped of their credentials!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why didn't the parents storm the school board and rip these idiots a few new ones?


I'm not a parent but I raised 7 kinds of hell, when I spent the better part of a weekend being confronted with aggressive beggars raising money for every extra curricular activity except Football. I made it very clear I was going to be just as aggressive apposing an upcoming bond issue, the reelection of every board members, and demand the resignation of the superintendent and HS administrators. I got a firm apology and promise that it wouldn't happen again. I specifically asked when panhandling became part of the TEKS (The story is a couple of teachers made a joke about get a tin can and go out and ask for donations, when affluent students complained about fees)


I reported a "charter" school to Texas Education Agency complete with pictures of their students begging for money at the intersection of senate and 290 (A highway). That intersection is in NO Way set up for pedestrians -- I took the pics after I called the cops. The dispatcher said they had multiple complaints about the kids being in traffic. (It was a high traffic time, I sit through 4 - 5 light changes to get through the intersection. I took the pics during the first seconds of red lights)  *I don't know it it was a real school or just some jerk using kids*


I've also called the cops on traveling sports teams that beg at HW 6 and FM 529. 
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2291 on: February 16, 2014, 01:55:46 PM »
I got a new one the other day. I got a phone call that was a recording that was artistically blurred at the beginning, so all you could hear was, "....Credit Union. We're sorry to inform you that your debit card has been frozen. To unfreeze, please enter all of this personal information."

Um, yeah. I don't have a Credit Union account, and I'm not that silly anyway.

Good try, though.
I got a similar call from mumble mumble Insurance. Thing was I had recently updated my debit card. Instead of calling the mumble mumble people back, I called my agent directly. Turns out my payments were fine. 
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2292 on: February 16, 2014, 04:37:28 PM »
Update on the get out of the median, you panhandlers! law. It has been struck down by the state Supreme Court. City may appeal.

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« Reply #2293 on: February 16, 2014, 05:24:50 PM »
I got a new one the other day. I got a phone call that was a recording that was artistically blurred at the beginning, so all you could hear was, "....Credit Union. We're sorry to inform you that your debit card has been frozen. To unfreeze, please enter all of this personal information."

Um, yeah. I don't have a Credit Union account, and I'm not that silly anyway.

Good try, though.

I got one of those from Bank of America.  I haven't had an account there in years, and I'm also not that dumb.

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« Reply #2294 on: February 16, 2014, 05:40:23 PM »
Maybe that's what that "collection agency" call was the other night.  It was a recording, so I just hung up on them.  If it really was a collection agency, they can have a human being call me.  We have no outstanding debts, in fact no debts at all beyond the car payment, so maybe they were trying to collect something from some relative or quasi-relative?  I know that DD1 got a call from a collection agency about her ex-husband's father, several years after she divorced XH.

For a long time we got collection calls for Cathy Samelastname.  Since my first name is Cynthi Mr. Sirius had us listed in the phone book as "G and C Lastname."  We got lots of calls looking for Cathy, and when I'd tell the caller I didn't know who that was and it was no relative of mine or Mr. Sirius' (and besides his relatives are mostly on the opposite coast) they'd ask me things like, "Are you sure you don't know Cathy Samelastname?  Are you sure she doesn't live there?"  I daresay I got rather rude with one individual who kept insisting that I was lying for Cathy.  Bub, I lie for no one, least of all someone trying to duck their responsibilities.

(And before someone gets after me for my attitude about helping people duck bill collectors, I realize there are times in most people's lives when they don't have enough money to change a quarter.  I've been there myself.  I'm not talking about that.  I'm talking about people who are trying to get around honoring their obligations.)