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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2370 on: March 02, 2014, 10:44:23 PM »
Yeah, it can be really difficult.  I was at a Bible study that had an extensive prayer session a couple of years ago, and this one woman was talking about how she was in danger of being evicted and really needed help, and asked for prayers.  She wasn't directly asking for money, but I thought about possibly giving some.  I asked my husband what he thought, and he suggested talking to the pastor first.  So I did, and I was glad that I did.  It turns out that she had a habit of making poor monetary decisions and had been helped out by people in the church several times already, but she continued to use the money for other things and to constantly be in trouble.  So it was best to not help her that way, as it just enabled her to keep making poor choices.  So it sounded like the church initially gave her the benefit of the doubt, but kept an eye on how the money was being used and the choices that were being made with it, and, based on that, was no longer willing to help her in that way.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2371 on: March 03, 2014, 08:18:11 AM »
My mom was our church secretary for a number of years to help pay for college for me and my brother. She learned how to spot a scammer and taught me some of her tricks. And found out a few years ago that I'm not the only one who can spot them :-)

One night I was attending a lecture in the basement of one of the local churches. It was summer and the basement was a little warm, so they had an outside door propped open. A guy comes down into the church and interrupts us to ask if someone can give him money for a bus to get downtown for some reason. The pastor/lecturer says that he'd be glad to give him a ride in a few minutes - he'll just wrap up the lecture a little early and we'll move on to the discussion while he gives the guy a ride. Oh no, says scammer, I don't want to interrupt (note - you already have) and so if you could just give me the money, I'll catch my bus. Then someone else in the audience says that he'll give the guy a ride. Scammer starts to look a little panicked, keeps saying that he doesn't want to put anyone out. Then someone else says why don't we just give the guy some money?

As one voice, everyone else in the basement yells "NO!" and scammer slinks away.

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2372 on: March 03, 2014, 08:27:34 AM »
My mom was our church secretary for a number of years to help pay for college for me and my brother. She learned how to spot a scammer and taught me some of her tricks. And found out a few years ago that I'm not the only one who can spot them :-)

One night I was attending a lecture in the basement of one of the local churches. It was summer and the basement was a little warm, so they had an outside door propped open. A guy comes down into the church and interrupts us to ask if someone can give him money for a bus to get downtown for some reason. The pastor/lecturer says that he'd be glad to give him a ride in a few minutes - he'll just wrap up the lecture a little early and we'll move on to the discussion while he gives the guy a ride. Oh no, says scammer, I don't want to interrupt (note - you already have) and so if you could just give me the money, I'll catch my bus. Then someone else in the audience says that he'll give the guy a ride. Scammer starts to look a little panicked, keeps saying that he doesn't want to put anyone out. Then someone else says why don't we just give the guy some money?

As one voice, everyone else in the basement yells "NO!" and scammer slinks away.

That's always an effective method. A person who really needs food or transportation won't care if you give them those things without actual cash changing hands. I once saw a woman claiming that she had run away from an abusive boyfriend, and needed money. At the time I was absolutely flat broke myself (didn't even have a working mobile phone), so I couldn't help her. Now, I'd probably offer to wait with her while I called the police and/or women's shelters.



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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2373 on: March 03, 2014, 09:08:23 AM »
I've said this before, here.

I've had a few people ask me for money to pay such and such bill.  And all but one of them have withdrawn the request when I said I'd be happy to pay the bill for them; let's go to the bank or utility or wherever the bill has to be paid.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2374 on: March 03, 2014, 10:09:09 AM »
^ My mom and I ended up doing the same with my sister, after we found out she was asking each of us for cash to pay the same bill twice. >:(

It was amazing how quick she stopped asking us.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2375 on: March 03, 2014, 02:05:40 PM »
I've said this before, here.

I've had a few people ask me for money to pay such and such bill.  And all but one of them have withdrawn the request when I said I'd be happy to pay the bill for them; let's go to the bank or utility or wherever the bill has to be paid.

The beauty of that is that if they actually do want the money for this bill, you're making it as easy as possible for them, and paying the bill quickly (whereas if you gave them a check, they'd have to deposit it and then pay the bill, and even if you gave them cash they would either need to go to the office themselves, send a check, or buy and send a money order). I figure that if a friend or relative needs that enough to ask for it, and I'm willing, it's likely to be close to the deadline before there would at best be surcharges for nonpayment (my own landlord charges extra if I don't pay by the third of the month), and at worst the risk of service being cut off or someone evicted.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2376 on: March 03, 2014, 04:22:52 PM »
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2377 on: March 04, 2014, 05:56:31 PM »
Entire text of the email:

We are reliable, trustworthy lender,I give out affordable loan at 1% interest rate.


Would probably have better success if they actually said who they were.  Or gave a link.  Or used proper grammar . . .

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« Reply #2378 on: March 04, 2014, 08:01:53 PM »
Oh dear...  I checked my spam folder today and found this little beauty:

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I know you were expecting to hear back from me much earlier but I didn't want to get back to you empty-handed. I finally found the perfect stock for you and I am confident that it will make you some serious profit.
Remember the one I told you about in November of last year right? You did very well on it and I think this PRFC stock will do the same for your portfolio again.
I have to let you know though that I'm not the only one who found out about PRFC today.
A few of my colleagues are aware as well and they are telling their friends and family about it so I must advise you to move fast if you want to buy it.
I think it's trading at just around 15 cents right now, if you wait too long it might be at 30 or even higher and at that time I won't be able to safely advise you to buy it.
You can buy as many shares as you can first thing at market open on Friday or worst case scenario buy it on Monday but move fast.
I know you don't care about what the company does because you know I've done all the due diligence for you already but PRFC is actually amazing and I think it will do much better than even the one I told you about a few months ago.
One of the company's divisions offers mobile software solutions for the gaming industry. The mobile apps allow customers to play lottery and other games of chance and skill on their smartphones.
The software is extremely advanced and could be the backbone of all mobile casinos in the future.
It is expected that the US will legalize online gaming in the near future and this could catapult PRFC to new highs however even without that the company's software is extremely valuable in the rest of the world and could become extremely profitable.
Something big is definitely brewing at the company. I heard something about buy out rumors but I don't have all the details yet I will keep you posted over the coming days or weeks.
Anyway I won't bore you with much more blabber, but if you have a second do check out PRFC. By the way I will be expecting a nice gift from you once you make fat bank on this one and a nice dinner with the wives is in order.
It's been too long since we last spent a good evening over a bottle of wine. I was going to call you to tell you about PRFC but I figured youre probably asleep now with those crazy shifts you've been working. Take care and call me if there's anything.

Talk soon
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Even better is the footer to this email... 

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2379 on: March 04, 2014, 08:04:23 PM »
I received a text today asking me to give money to Jared as the sender had forgotten.

I have had this number for 8+ years, and have no idea who the sender is. I replied that she must have the wrong number.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2380 on: March 04, 2014, 08:21:07 PM »
Julian, what the what?

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2381 on: March 04, 2014, 08:29:46 PM »
I'd hire a scientist cat in a heartbeat.
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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2382 on: March 04, 2014, 08:37:40 PM »
Julian, what the what?

Spammers often snatch blocks of text from random places online to stick into their email, in the hopes that it will help the spam part get past the anti-spam programs most ISPs have.  The more the email looks like it could be a regular message, the more likely it is to get through.

Which leads to some hilarious combinations, especially when the spam part is supposed to be an image file and gets stripped out, so all that's left is nonsense  :P

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2383 on: March 04, 2014, 08:59:30 PM »
Julian, what the what?

Yeah, it's a gem! 

I've seen the nonsense text before but this is the funniest yet.

You sure about that Jones?  My cats get into enough mischief without test tubes and chemicals to add to the mix...   :-\

Out on the patio we'd sit,
And the humidity we'd breathe,
We'd watch the lightning crack over canefields
Laugh and think, this is Australia.

Ganggajang - Sounds Of Then (This Is Australia)

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Re: S/O Beggars, Moochers and Scammers
« Reply #2384 on: March 05, 2014, 02:40:46 PM »
Another eviction notice. Man, these eviction notices are piling up!

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Eviction notice,

 Your home will be seized by the police under suspicion
 of illegal activities as we were reported yesterday.
 As a tenant you have 30 days to vacate
 the premises or will face fines or jail time.
 Contact out office immediately after receipt
 of this notice to make proper arrangements for a move out.

 Legal statement and our contact info are enclosed to this letter.

Right. Apparently watching cat videos and the Nostalgia Critic on YouTube are illegal activities.  ::)

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